Rishi's constant so far is being terrible at politics, so I'm not expecting that to change.
Worst-case scenario is that centrists have written the Tories off and aren't listening, but bringing Cameron back/sacking Braverman alienates the right-wing. You could see RefUK push beyond 10% and the Tories sink towards 20%.
Actually, with AI you could appoint anyone you like anywhere from history. Thatcher to Home Sec. Richard the Lionheart as Foreign Secretary thanks to his deep experience of the Levant. Vlad “the Impaler” Dracul as Schools Minister. Moominpappa as Business Sec (one for the Mumsnet crowd, there). Anus McPenis - a completely fictitious failed Scottish punk star, invented by me 13 seconds ago - as Deputy PM
I mean, if you think this is currently possible or even potentially possible - I have a bridge in the metaverse I would love to sell you; it was designed by the same guy who made the most expensive bored ape
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
Austerity was inevitable, it wasn’t a choice.
Lest we forget Labour went into the 2010 general election promising deeper cuts than Thatcher.
Long-standing PBers will know that I'm one of last few Cameron supporters, but my initial reaction to this news (assuming it is confirmed) is that I think it's a pity to have moved Cleverly, who has been particularly good as Foreign Sec and seems to have gained the confidence of foreign minsters around the world. Of course Cameron will also immediately be regarded as a serious figure, which will help.
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
Yes. The reason why the Tory party is heading for ELE is because the current parliamentary party are so fucking awful. Morons. Idiots. Sycophants. The few who are decent are discarded on the backbenches.
You get what you vote for, and in 2019 people voted in the very worst political intake we have ever seen and made them the government.
Long-standing PBers will know that I'm one of last few Cameron supporters, but my initial reaction to this news (assuming it is confirmed) is that I think it's a pity to have moved Cleverly, who has been particularly good as Foreign Sec and seems to have gained the confidence of foreign minsters around the world. Of course Cameron will also immediately be regarded as a serious figure, which will help.
It remains to be seen how he is received elsewhere but it probably helps that Merkel has left the scene. Trump getting back in might be a bit of a headache.
"Over the last few weeks I have been discussing taking up a diplomatic role after the general election. To enable me to do so I have asked the Prime Minister if I can step down from the government at the reshuffle and he has agreed. 1/5"
I can't think of an example of an immediate switch in a cabinet reshuffle, but Palmerston was Home Secretary about a year after having been Foreign Secretary.
Jim Callaghan went the other way, from Home to Foreign Secretary, but with a spell in Opposition in between.
Mr. Nabavi, it was a curious irony that the party that lvoed the idea of PR and coalitions forever turned out to be worse at handling the politics of coalition than the party that doesn't want to have them.
Shame, really, as the Coalition was mostly better than other Parliaments.
If the Tories tack to the centre with unelected retreads and still lose, the headbangers own the future outright. It’s a big gamble.
They'll lose less if they can hold the centre more than they are currently doing. The Tories have to focus on damage limitation for the election. Not to win it.
It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Osborne turned up as Chancellor, now, although Minister without portfolio is more likely.
I never get the feeling Osborne really misses being in frontline politics. I mean, if there’s anyone who can persuade him to come back it’s Cameron, but I’m highly doubtful, as much as the Tory All Stars* Cabinet would be a great story.
Some suggestion that the MPC might hold rates at the current rate until late next year because services inflation is going to fall more slowly than the headline rate. I hope that this report has come from a financial illiterate and isn't actually reflective of the BoE outlook because services inflation is a hugely lagging indicator and tracks to wage rises which account for almost the entirety of input price inflation for services providers. If the CPI rate falls then wage rises fall and eventually services inflation follows.
If the BoE waits for services inflation to fall before cutting rates we're going to be in the shit and just as we were way, way too late and slow in raising rates we're going to be too late and slow in cutting them.
Andrew Bailey is going to cost the Tories an extra 30-40 seats they would probably otherwise hold onto with interest rates falling by April to May next year and down to ~3.5% by election time in October-December.
It is not the job of the BoE to protect the public from the government's mistakes.
Nor is it their job to make avoidable mistakes. The B o E seems to view economic growth and wage rises as bad things.
In any normal world the Governor would have been sacked over allowing inflation to rise to double figures and be above target for such a prolonged period.
Action too little too late and yet he is allowed to spout on its workers wanting a pay rise causing it.
The mistake was allowing a Brexiteer to become Governer of the Bank of England. With judgement like that what did anyone expect?
Minister awkwardly reacts to Braverman sacking after backing PM's confidence in her moments before Armed forces minister James Heappey, who joined us earlier this morning on Sky News, was left to awkwardly react to news of Suella Braverman's sacking - having moments earlier outlined how the prime minister had confidence in her as home secretary.
Minutes before she was sacked, he told LBC that the prime minister and his team in Number 10 had been "very clear she [Ms Braverman] has his confidence and, in that sense, one would imagine that she will continue".
Moments later, however, he was told live on ITV's Good Morning Britain that she had been axed.
"Your viewers will be enjoying my discomfort," he said.
"But in this case [it is] difficult to offer commentary when I just don't know what is going on."
If Osbourne comes back (unlikely in my view) then the Tories will be back to austerity and away from culture wars - and nobody likes austerity any more (not that many people liked the culture wars). It would be admitting everything post the EU referendum was a failure (which at least would be some honesty from the Tories), and would almost certainly be the death knell for the party.
"Over the last few weeks I have been discussing taking up a diplomatic role after the general election. To enable me to do so I have asked the Prime Minister if I can step down from the government at the reshuffle and he has agreed. 1/5"
I can't see why Gibb would have been sacked if this reshuffle is seeing a shift to the centre. He will have resigned.
If you'd asked me yesterday which Conservative figure was most likely to rejoin Rishi's government at a senior level, I would have had, in order, from likeliest to unlikeliest:
Boris Truss Osborne Major Winston Churchill Margaret Thatcher ... Cameron
Therefore I can't help but think it won't happen. for one thing, how quickly can he be chucked into the HoL?
Of course the sensible Labour response would be to bring Blair, Brown, Balls, Mandelson etc back in formally...
EDIT - happily for the LibDems, the Cleggasm is not available.
If you were offering me a battle between the Cameroons and the old NuLab lot, I would be absolutely bloomin delighted. Given how far our politics has sunk since then, they all look like utter titans.
I suspect that the final nail in Braverman's coffin was hammered in by Tommy Robinson and his EDL mates on Saturday, which would be a rather delicious irony.
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
What's to stop anyone from this country moving anywhere they want in Europe ?
As far as I know the ports and airports still operate.
Go around the country and how have things changed since 2010 ? There's more housing and high streets look more run down than previously.
For all the hyperbole things have changed little for most people - oldies are richer and graduates have more debt, houses are more expensive but jobs are more plentiful.
Long-standing PBers will know that I'm one of last few Cameron supporters, but my initial reaction to this news (assuming it is confirmed) is that I think it's a pity to have moved Cleverly, who has been particularly good as Foreign Sec and seems to have gained the confidence of foreign minsters around the world. Of course Cameron will also immediately be regarded as a serious figure, which will help.
It remains to be seen how he is received elsewhere but it probably helps that Merkel has left the scene. Trump getting back in might be a bit of a headache.
If Trump gets back in, the name of the UK foreign sec will be the least of our (and the world's) problems.
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
Austerity was inevitable, it wasn’t a choice.
Lest we forget Labour went into the 2010 general election promising deeper cuts than Thatcher.
It's where the Conservatives chose to impose it that really sticks in the craw. Remember Pickles' 'revenue spending power' measure? Oddly, and I'm sure this wasn't deliberate, it was poorer Labour councils that saw the biggest cuts. Which they're still struggling with the impact of today.
Long-standing PBers will know that I'm one of last few Cameron supporters, but my initial reaction to this news (assuming it is confirmed) is that I think it's a pity to have moved Cleverly, who has been particularly good as Foreign Sec and seems to have gained the confidence of foreign minsters around the world. Of course Cameron will also immediately be regarded as a serious figure, which will help.
It remains to be seen how he is received elsewhere but it probably helps that Merkel has left the scene. Trump getting back in might be a bit of a headache.
If Trump gets back in, the name of the UK foreign sec will be the least of our (and the world's) problems.
Actually, with AI you could appoint anyone you like anywhere from history. Thatcher to Home Sec. Richard the Lionheart as Foreign Secretary thanks to his deep experience of the Levant. Vlad “the Impaler” Dracul as Schools Minister. Moominpappa as Business Sec (one for the Mumsnet crowd, there). Anus McPenis - a completely fictitious failed Scottish punk star, invented by me 13 seconds ago - as Deputy PM
I mean, if you think this is currently possible or even potentially possible - I have a bridge in the metaverse I would love to sell you; it was designed by the same guy who made the most expensive bored ape
It will soon be very possible
You’ll be able to create an utterly convincing 3D avatar of historical and fictional characters - convincing, that is, on a screen (which is where we see politicians anyway). Voice cloning will give them totally plausible voices - see the fake Starmer and Obama audios
AI can then be fed the entire intellectual output of these people - their writing, speeches, messages, memoirs, recorded conversations - and be told: think and act like this person
Et voila. The dead are born again. You could have a Cabinet comprised of Abe Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Elizabeth I, and Augustus Caesar
Bringing back Cameron after sacking Braverman is basically a Sunak declaration of war on the ERG. If he'd done it a year ago he might have won some credit. I doubt he will now.
If you'd asked me yesterday which Conservative figure was most likely to rejoin Rishi's government at a senior level, I would have had, in order, from likeliest to unlikeliest:
Boris Truss Osborne Major Winston Churchill Margaret Thatcher ... Cameron
Therefore I can't help but think it won't happen. for one thing, how quickly can he be chucked into the HoL?
It happened pretty quickly for Mandelson when he returned as Business Secretary - ten days from reshuffle to introduction in the Lords.
As commentators have been pointing out on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, Cameron's outspoken criticism of Rishi's HS2 stance would make this .. interesting.
Of course the sensible Labour response would be to bring Blair, Brown, Balls, Mandelson etc back in formally...
EDIT - happily for the LibDems, the Cleggasm is not available.
If you were offering me a battle between the Cameroons and the old NuLab lot, I would be absolutely bloomin delighted. Given how far our politics has sunk since then, they all look like utter titans.
New Labour only look like Titans or even moderately acceptable because they had a much more benign economic environment. They depended on spending the money the Conservative economic reforms had generated. Once the economy turned nasty, they collapsed pretty quickly.
Bringing back Cameron after sacking Braverman is basically a Sunak declaration of war on the ERG. If he'd done it a year ago he might have won some credit. I doubt he will now.
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
Hahahahaha
Britain never played its role at the heart fo Europe. Because it never had such a role. It was always rightly at odds with the scope and direction of the EU. The biggest mistake we ever made was abandoning the sensible policy of trying to keep Europe divided a la Humphrey Appleby.
Actually, with AI you could appoint anyone you like anywhere from history. Thatcher to Home Sec. Richard the Lionheart as Foreign Secretary thanks to his deep experience of the Levant. Vlad “the Impaler” Dracul as Schools Minister. Moominpappa as Business Sec (one for the Mumsnet crowd, there). Anus McPenis - a completely fictitious failed Scottish punk star, invented by me 13 seconds ago - as Deputy PM
I mean, if you think this is currently possible or even potentially possible - I have a bridge in the metaverse I would love to sell you; it was designed by the same guy who made the most expensive bored ape
It will soon be very possible
You’ll be able to create an utterly convincing 3D avatar of historical and fictional characters - convincing, that is, on a screen (which is where we see politicians anyway). Voice cloning will give them totally plausible voices - see the fake Starmer and Obama audios
AI can then be fed the entire intellectual output of these people - their writing, speeches, messages, memoirs, recorded conversations - and be told: think and act like this person
Et voila. The dead are born again. You could have a Cabinet comprised of Abe Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Elizabeth I, and Augustus Caesar
Mad but true
No, you will have a simulacrum of them that is able to do a good impression - it is much more Madam Tussaud's or the Disney Hall of Presidents then it is a real person or intellect. AI is a parrot (with no disrespect to the actual intelligence of parrots) that can learn a script, and a style of writing, that is all. It cannot create. You can give it the works of Lincoln or Churchill and what it will churn out will maybe sound real, but it won't mean anything.
Long-standing PBers will know that I'm one of last few Cameron supporters, but my initial reaction to this news (assuming it is confirmed) is that I think it's a pity to have moved Cleverly, who has been particularly good as Foreign Sec and seems to have gained the confidence of foreign minsters around the world. Of course Cameron will also immediately be regarded as a serious figure, which will help.
The Change Candidate strategy has clearly been dropped. Agree about Cleverley. This will raise his profile. Sunak probably thinking about a successor. Cleverley looks by far the best choice.
Bringing back Cameron after sacking Braverman is basically a Sunak declaration of war on the ERG. If he'd done it a year ago he might have won some credit. I doubt he will now.
He must only be doing it for two reasons.
(1) It polls well in saving seats and (2) He calculates the ERG are a busted flush and in no position to challenge him.
First politically ballsy thing I've seen Sunak do in a long time.
Labour quite quick off the mark this morning, with an email on Braverman's sacking out to all members. The text includes: They're so desperate, there are even rumours that David Cameron may come back as Foreign Secretary!
I thought the messaging from Rishi was that he was somehow going to position himself as the change candidate. Isn't bringing back Dave kinda reminding everyone that this is, in fact, the same party that's been in charge for 13 years. Also, were there not any MPs good enough for the job?
If you'd asked me yesterday which Conservative figure was most likely to rejoin Rishi's government at a senior level, I would have had, in order, from likeliest to unlikeliest:
Boris Truss Osborne Major Winston Churchill Margaret Thatcher ... Cameron
Therefore I can't help but think it won't happen. for one thing, how quickly can he be chucked into the HoL?
It happened pretty quickly for Mandelson when he returned as Business Secretary - ten days from reshuffle to introduction in the Lords.
It would need to be done in a few days. Mandelson steadied the ship but still didn't stop Brown's election defeat
Mr. Leon, while this ended, I think, with Augustus, older Roman statues were made to be genuine representations of the individual in question so AI could, perhaps, 'bring to life' such Romans in a way not possible with most people from history.
Long-standing PBers will know that I'm one of last few Cameron supporters, but my initial reaction to this news (assuming it is confirmed) is that I think it's a pity to have moved Cleverly, who has been particularly good as Foreign Sec and seems to have gained the confidence of foreign minsters around the world. Of course Cameron will also immediately be regarded as a serious figure, which will help.
Ye, it'd be a bit like Biden appointing Clinton (H) as Sec of State again, everyone knows who they are instantly.
If you'd asked me yesterday which Conservative figure was most likely to rejoin Rishi's government at a senior level, I would have had, in order, from likeliest to unlikeliest:
Boris Truss Osborne Major Winston Churchill Margaret Thatcher ... Cameron
Therefore I can't help but think it won't happen. for one thing, how quickly can he be chucked into the HoL?
In a millisecond at the PM’s whim. He’s doesn’t technically even need to be at all, but he will be.
It’s the old issue of focusing on tactics rather than strategy yet again.
Bringing David Cameron back will seize the short term headlines and serve as a distraction from the Suella Braverman farrago.
Over the longer term though, having David Cameron in a high profile cabinet role will surely just highlight what a political pygmy Rishi Sunak is in comparison? It’s a bit like having Lionel Messi on the bench and Lionel Blair on the pitch. Risky move.
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
What's to stop anyone from this country moving anywhere they want in Europe ?
As far as I know the ports and airports still operate.
Go around the country and how have things changed since 2010 ? There's more housing and high streets look more run down than previously.
For all the hyperbole things have changed little for most people - oldies are richer and graduates have more debt, houses are more expensive but jobs are more plentiful.
"Freedom of Movement" tends to refer to the right of an EU citizen go an exercise economic rights (i.e. live and work) in any member state. It doesn't refer to the ability to spend a week's holiday. As you well know.
Actually, with AI you could appoint anyone you like anywhere from history. Thatcher to Home Sec. Richard the Lionheart as Foreign Secretary thanks to his deep experience of the Levant. Vlad “the Impaler” Dracul as Schools Minister. Moominpappa as Business Sec (one for the Mumsnet crowd, there). Anus McPenis - a completely fictitious failed Scottish punk star, invented by me 13 seconds ago - as Deputy PM
I mean, if you think this is currently possible or even potentially possible - I have a bridge in the metaverse I would love to sell you; it was designed by the same guy who made the most expensive bored ape
It will soon be very possible
You’ll be able to create an utterly convincing 3D avatar of historical and fictional characters - convincing, that is, on a screen (which is where we see politicians anyway). Voice cloning will give them totally plausible voices - see the fake Starmer and Obama audios
AI can then be fed the entire intellectual output of these people - their writing, speeches, messages, memoirs, recorded conversations - and be told: think and act like this person
Et voila. The dead are born again. You could have a Cabinet comprised of Abe Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Elizabeth I, and Augustus Caesar
Mad but true
No, you will have a simulacrum of them that is able to do a good impression - it is much more Madam Tussaud's or the Disney Hall of Presidents then it is a real person or intellect. AI is a parrot (with no disrespect to the actual intelligence of parrots) that can learn a script, and a style of writing, that is all. It cannot create. You can give it the works of Lincoln or Churchill and what it will churn out will maybe sound real, but it won't mean anything.
I’m torn here
You’re entirely wrong but you’re SO wrong it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about and you wouldn’t even understand if I tried to explain
Of course the sensible Labour response would be to bring Blair, Brown, Balls, Mandelson etc back in formally...
EDIT - happily for the LibDems, the Cleggasm is not available.
If you were offering me a battle between the Cameroons and the old NuLab lot, I would be absolutely bloomin delighted. Given how far our politics has sunk since then, they all look like utter titans.
New Labour only look like Titans or even moderately acceptable because they had a much more benign economic environment. They depended on spending the money the Conservative economic reforms had generated. Once the economy turned nasty, they collapsed pretty quickly.
Maybe, but they did have 13 years in power before they "collapsed pretty quickly".
"Over the last few weeks I have been discussing taking up a diplomatic role after the general election. To enable me to do so I have asked the Prime Minister if I can step down from the government at the reshuffle and he has agreed. 1/5"
There may be more of this in the junior ranks as ministers look to start the Acoba clock on well-paid jobs after the election.
Actually, with AI you could appoint anyone you like anywhere from history. Thatcher to Home Sec. Richard the Lionheart as Foreign Secretary thanks to his deep experience of the Levant. Vlad “the Impaler” Dracul as Schools Minister. Moominpappa as Business Sec (one for the Mumsnet crowd, there). Anus McPenis - a completely fictitious failed Scottish punk star, invented by me 13 seconds ago - as Deputy PM
I mean, if you think this is currently possible or even potentially possible - I have a bridge in the metaverse I would love to sell you; it was designed by the same guy who made the most expensive bored ape
It will soon be very possible
You’ll be able to create an utterly convincing 3D avatar of historical and fictional characters - convincing, that is, on a screen (which is where we see politicians anyway). Voice cloning will give them totally plausible voices - see the fake Starmer and Obama audios
AI can then be fed the entire intellectual output of these people - their writing, speeches, messages, memoirs, recorded conversations - and be told: think and act like this person
Et voila. The dead are born again. You could have a Cabinet comprised of Abe Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Elizabeth I, and Augustus Caesar
Mad but true
So much to say about this:
"Convincing" is an interesting concept with historical figures, and increasingly so as you go back into history. What did Elizabeth 1st actually look like? Or (say) Shakespeare? What were their mannerisms? And it might be that you put the *real* EI or Shakespeare onto screen and it would seem fake; because everything was so different back then. Therefore the bar for 'convincing' is set more by current depictions of them on screen, than by what, and who, they actually were.
Foe someone like Caesar, it's even more marked, as we know relatively little about him (compared to what is needed to produce anything like what he would have thought).
Then there's the available text. LLM's require vast amounts of data t produce their results, and even the combined works of Shakespeare would not produce much that was good. Instead, you would have to merge it in with other contemporary and modern data. Which might mean it's more convincing, as it'd contain hints to modernity. But the ML would still not be thinking or acting like that person.
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
Hahahahaha
Britain never played its role at the heart fo Europe. Because it never had such a role. It was always rightly at odds with the scope and direction of the EU. The biggest mistake we ever made was abandoning the sensible policy of trying to keep Europe divided a la Humphrey Appleby.
'The biggest mistake we ever made was abandoning the sensible policy of trying to keep Europe divided a la Humphrey Appleby'
Delusional.
You're a superb poster in many ways but on Brexit you're a crank. A utopian. A naif. Reactionaries like you and others on here held us back with your jingoism, your xenophobia and your misguided English exceptionalism. Our European clout is long gone, and people like you have only diminished us further. History will not be kind.
Bringing back Cameron after sacking Braverman is basically a Sunak declaration of war on the ERG. If he'd done it a year ago he might have won some credit. I doubt he will now.
He must only be doing it for two reasons.
(1) It polls well in saving seats and (2) He calculates the ERG are a busted flush and in no position to challenge him.
First politically ballsy thing I've seen Sunak do in a long time.
Yes I too admire the audacity. However it is ALSO a sign of total desperation, and he’s guaranteed trouble from the Tory right and RefUK - for the future
I don’t think it will save him, and it means a civil war for the Tories down the line. But at least it’s interesting
Suella sacked and Dave back would mean I’ve got my fucking party back.
That may be so, but looking at the smoking wreckage of a formerly functioning, well-run, self-confident country playing it's role at the heart of Europe, a member of the single market with full freedom of movement for its citizens around their own continent, I am not delighted at all.
Cameron and Osborne precipitated disaster for this country. Austerity and Brexit. What a legacy.
What's to stop anyone from this country moving anywhere they want in Europe ?
As far as I know the ports and airports still operate.
Go around the country and how have things changed since 2010 ? There's more housing and high streets look more run down than previously.
For all the hyperbole things have changed little for most people - oldies are richer and graduates have more debt, houses are more expensive but jobs are more plentiful.
"Freedom of Movement" tends to refer to the right of an EU citizen go an exercise economic rights (i.e. live and work) in any member state. It doesn't refer to the ability to spend a week's holiday. As you well know.
Well yes, but it was only ever a tiny minority who went to work in another EU country. And it is only a minority of those who would want to who now cannot. Of the practical difficulties of moving abroad, whether or not freedom of movement applies is small beer. Realistically, 90% are just not going to work in the EU because they are monoglot Anglophones. And of the other 10%, if they have the skills, a way around the bureaucracy will be found, just as it would if they were to emigrate to Australia or New Zealand.
Actually, with AI you could appoint anyone you like anywhere from history. Thatcher to Home Sec. Richard the Lionheart as Foreign Secretary thanks to his deep experience of the Levant. Vlad “the Impaler” Dracul as Schools Minister. Moominpappa as Business Sec (one for the Mumsnet crowd, there). Anus McPenis - a completely fictitious failed Scottish punk star, invented by me 13 seconds ago - as Deputy PM
I mean, if you think this is currently possible or even potentially possible - I have a bridge in the metaverse I would love to sell you; it was designed by the same guy who made the most expensive bored ape
It will soon be very possible
You’ll be able to create an utterly convincing 3D avatar of historical and fictional characters - convincing, that is, on a screen (which is where we see politicians anyway). Voice cloning will give them totally plausible voices - see the fake Starmer and Obama audios
AI can then be fed the entire intellectual output of these people - their writing, speeches, messages, memoirs, recorded conversations - and be told: think and act like this person
Et voila. The dead are born again. You could have a Cabinet comprised of Abe Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Elizabeth I, and Augustus Caesar
Mad but true
No, you will have a simulacrum of them that is able to do a good impression - it is much more Madam Tussaud's or the Disney Hall of Presidents then it is a real person or intellect. AI is a parrot (with no disrespect to the actual intelligence of parrots) that can learn a script, and a style of writing, that is all. It cannot create. You can give it the works of Lincoln or Churchill and what it will churn out will maybe sound real, but it won't mean anything.
I’m torn here
You’re entirely wrong but you’re SO wrong it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about and you wouldn’t even understand if I tried to explain
So, meh
Yes, that's such a clear argument you made there, much like your "my IQ is too high for PBers to understand me" position and the constant sourcing of Oli London - it makes it very clear that your opinions are very well informed.
Bringing back Cameron after sacking Braverman is basically a Sunak declaration of war on the ERG. If he'd done it a year ago he might have won some credit. I doubt he will now.
He must only be doing it for two reasons.
(1) It polls well in saving seats and (2) He calculates the ERG are a busted flush and in no position to challenge him.
First politically ballsy thing I've seen Sunak do in a long time.
Yes I too admire the audacity. However it is ALSO a sign of total desperation, and he’s guaranteed trouble from the Tory right and RefUK - for the future
I don’t think it will save him, and it means a civil war for the Tories down the line. But at least it’s interesting
It does - and positions the cabinet quite far to the left of the membership, who will be selecting a *lot* of new candidates at the next GE as more and more Gibb types step down.
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Lest we forget Labour went into the 2010 general election promising deeper cuts than Thatcher.
SKS Reeves Cooper and Streeting to the left
You get what you vote for, and in 2019 people voted in the very worst political intake we have ever seen and made them the government.
"Over the last few weeks I have been discussing taking up a diplomatic role after the general election. To enable me to do so I have asked the Prime Minister if I can step down from the government at the reshuffle and he has agreed. 1/5"
Shame, really, as the Coalition was mostly better than other Parliaments.
The Tories have to focus on damage limitation for the election. Not to win it.
* your mileage may vary
EDIT - happily for the LibDems, the Cleggasm is not available.
Minister awkwardly reacts to Braverman sacking after backing PM's confidence in her moments before
Armed forces minister James Heappey, who joined us earlier this morning on Sky News, was left to awkwardly react to news of Suella Braverman's sacking - having moments earlier outlined how the prime minister had confidence in her as home secretary.
Minutes before she was sacked, he told LBC that the prime minister and his team in Number 10 had been "very clear she [Ms Braverman] has his confidence and, in that sense, one would imagine that she will continue".
Moments later, however, he was told live on ITV's Good Morning Britain that she had been axed.
"Your viewers will be enjoying my discomfort," he said.
"But in this case [it is] difficult to offer commentary when I just don't know what is going on."
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Therefore I can't help but think it won't happen. for one thing, how quickly can he be chucked into the HoL?
Sky suggesting Sunak is appointing his successor
As far as I know the ports and airports still operate.
Go around the country and how have things changed since 2010 ? There's more housing and high streets look more run down than previously.
For all the hyperbole things have changed little for most people - oldies are richer and graduates have more debt, houses are more expensive but jobs are more plentiful.
NEW: arise Lord Call Me Dave
Sources confirm Cameron IS Foreign Sec
ITSSSSS HAPPPENINGGGGGGG!!!!
You’ll be able to create an utterly convincing 3D avatar of historical and fictional characters - convincing, that is, on a screen (which is where we see politicians anyway). Voice cloning will give them totally plausible voices - see the fake Starmer and Obama audios
AI can then be fed the entire intellectual output of these people - their writing, speeches, messages, memoirs, recorded conversations - and be told: think and act like this person
Et voila. The dead are born again. You could have a Cabinet comprised of Abe Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi, JFK, Elizabeth I, and Augustus Caesar
Mad but true
Britain never played its role at the heart fo Europe. Because it never had such a role. It was always rightly at odds with the scope and direction of the EU. The biggest mistake we ever made was abandoning the sensible policy of trying to keep Europe divided a la Humphrey Appleby.
(1) It polls well in saving seats and (2) He calculates the ERG are a busted flush and in no position to challenge him.
First politically ballsy thing I've seen Sunak do in a long time.
They're so desperate, there are even rumours that David Cameron may come back as Foreign Secretary!
Bringing David Cameron back will seize the short term headlines and serve as a distraction from the Suella Braverman farrago.
Over the longer term though, having David Cameron in a high profile cabinet role will surely just highlight what a political pygmy Rishi Sunak is in comparison? It’s a bit like having Lionel Messi on the bench and Lionel Blair on the pitch. Risky move.
Just like Mandy in 2008.
You’re entirely wrong but you’re SO wrong it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about and you wouldn’t even understand if I tried to explain
So, meh
Live streaming in China is so insane.
This woman is known for promoting the products she sells for less than 3 seconds each.
On average she sells ~$19 million USD of products per week.
https://twitter.com/mrexits/status/1723790074679091626
"Convincing" is an interesting concept with historical figures, and increasingly so as you go back into history. What did Elizabeth 1st actually look like? Or (say) Shakespeare? What were their mannerisms? And it might be that you put the *real* EI or Shakespeare onto screen and it would seem fake; because everything was so different back then. Therefore the bar for 'convincing' is set more by current depictions of them on screen, than by what, and who, they actually were.
Foe someone like Caesar, it's even more marked, as we know relatively little about him (compared to what is needed to produce anything like what he would have thought).
Then there's the available text. LLM's require vast amounts of data t produce their results, and even the combined works of Shakespeare would not produce much that was good. Instead, you would have to merge it in with other contemporary and modern data. Which might mean it's more convincing, as it'd contain hints to modernity. But the ML would still not be thinking or acting like that person.
Delusional.
You're a superb poster in many ways but on Brexit you're a crank. A utopian. A naif. Reactionaries like you and others on here held us back with your jingoism, your xenophobia and your misguided English exceptionalism. Our European clout is long gone, and people like you have only diminished us further. History will not be kind.
I don’t think it will save him, and it means a civil war for the Tories down the line. But at least it’s interesting
Why doesn't Rishi call the GE now and put everyone out of their misery??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blipvert
Dave: The Saviour of the Nation
Of the practical difficulties of moving abroad, whether or not freedom of movement applies is small beer. Realistically, 90% are just not going to work in the EU because they are monoglot Anglophones. And of the other 10%, if they have the skills, a way around the bureaucracy will be found, just as it would if they were to emigrate to Australia or New Zealand.
It is on.