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  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,869
    HYUFD said:

    ...

    Andy_JS said:
    It would have helped a lot if the bonus cap had gone. It is nonsensical self-harm to keep it.
    It is to do with reducing office space as more wfh
    I am sure it's to do with various things, but ending the bonus cap would have factored into many banks' decisions on where to locate. All the bonus cap means is that bankers have to be paid their bonuses in their salaries, which means they get paid more, it's just not tied to performance. Keeping it is pure virtue-signalling nonsense, and pleases nobody except rival finance centres in the EU.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    edited July 2023
    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Chris said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    Chris said:

    Carnyx said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "'Good news for London' says Khan, as £12.50 Ulez expansion approved"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-london-66328175

    And just up -

    .Khan says taxpayers' money 'wasted' in court case

    Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has just been speaking to the BBC.

    He told us: "I welcome the judgement today. I've been told more than £1m of council taxpayers' money has been wasted on this case".

    He adds: "I'm quite clear though, I made this decision to expand Ulez because it is really important we address the public health crisis."

    Asked about increased costs to Londoners, Khan says nine out of 10 cars in London are already compliant with Ulez and the scrappage scheme would offer support.'
    Good luck to the Tories if the best they can come up with is a "let climate change rip" stance, for short-term political advantage.
    Stopping ULEZ in outer London is a separate matter from the government's overall net zero
    target.

    Today Khan has won his legal battle that he has the power as Mayor to extend ULEZ London wide. However the Tories have won a political battle as Susan Hall and Tory London Assembly candidates and parliamentary candidates in London suburban and M25 belt seats can say only a Tory vote can reverse ULEZ
    When are the right going to stop playing silly buggers with the environment?
    Equally one could ask about why car taxation in London is so regressive - the rich pay nothing.
    Why do the rich pay nothing?
    Electric vehicles?
    Do you mean that the rich travel only by electric vehicles?

    I was suggesting one way the poster might be thinking the rich could avoid it. They have the money to buy them. Whether they do, I don't know. Hence the question mark.
    Maybe it would be easier to let Malmesbury answer, rather than guessing what s/he might have meant?
    That would subvert the whole point of PB and lead to the collapse of civilisation as we know it via the return of Liz Truss.

    Turns out I was right as well, that was what he meant.
    I must have missed his/her answer. But if s/he really thinks rich people all travel by electric cars, it was no great loss.
    You missed his answer?

    Despite replying to it?

    Okaaaaaayyyyyyyy....

    Edit - I suppose on a careful check I should say 'referencing' rather than 'replying' but the point stands.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,395
    edited July 2023
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/07/28/playing-dangerous-game-arguing-natwest-wrong-deny-services/

    Seems rather a leftie [sic] argument for the DT

    "The Coutts scandal has something for everyone: politics, media, cover-up.

    But its biggest gift is to the cultural right, which has asserted for a long time that elite institutions are deliberately trying to muzzle them. Now, they..."

    But I can't read it ...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Take that @DavidL ...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,657
    151 for 5
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,888
    Andy_JS said:
    Will that affect their credit rating?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,976
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Ok, PB Brains Trust, here is a completely random question.

    I know some of you have had success in beating Sky down on renewal charges.

    How did you do it? Ring up and ask or just say you were cancelling and they made an offer?

    Speak to cancellations.

    Cancel.

    Make sure your contact preferences are up to date.

    On the day it cancels you’ll get a Winback team call or email with a good deal.

    Edit this should only be done for TV.
    Ok - mine includes Broadband as well.
    In that case tell them you are leaving for Virgin as they are offering you a BB and TV deal similar to what you are on for £60.
    Is your advice I should switch to Virgin, or is that just a suggested negotiating ploy?

    It can't be the former as I don't have Virgin coverage where I live.
    Suggested negotiating ploy.

    Say that Virgin knocked on your saying it is in your area saying it is available.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,888
    edit
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Ok, PB Brains Trust, here is a completely random question.

    I know some of you have had success in beating Sky down on renewal charges.

    How did you do it? Ring up and ask or just say you were cancelling and they made an offer?

    Speak to cancellations.

    Cancel.

    Make sure your contact preferences are up to date.

    On the day it cancels you’ll get a Winback team call or email with a good deal.

    Edit this should only be done for TV.
    Ok - mine includes Broadband as well.
    In that case tell them you are leaving for Virgin as they are offering you a BB and TV deal similar to what you are on for £60.
    Is your advice I should switch to Virgin, or is that just a suggested negotiating ploy?

    It can't be the former as I don't have Virgin coverage where I live.
    Suggested negotiating ploy.

    Say that Virgin knocked on your saying it is in your area saying it is available.
    Ok, I will try, thanks.

    Truthfully, I could get all the services I am paying £90 a month for from Sky for about £48 if I split them between other providers. So it may be I end up leaving anyway.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    I believe am literally the only foreigner in this melancholy old gem of a Habsburg city


  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153

    HYUFD said:

    ...

    Andy_JS said:
    It would have helped a lot if the bonus cap had gone. It is nonsensical self-harm to keep it.
    It is to do with reducing office space as more wfh
    I am sure it's to do with various things, but ending the bonus cap would have factored into many banks' decisions on where to locate. All the bonus cap means is that bankers have to be paid their bonuses in their salaries, which means they get paid more, it's just not tied to performance. Keeping it is pure virtue-signalling nonsense, and pleases nobody except rival finance centres in the EU.
    They are looking at the Old City. Smaller office now that WFH seems permanent.

    A guesstimate is that the office space required for *existing jobs* is 2/3rds of what it was.

    Mind you, the number of people squealing that they are losing a permanently allocated desk, when they come in the office once a week. Did they really think that a company will rent space for that, long term. Or that the number counters wouldn’t look at empty floors in buildings and ask why??

    Easier to move to a smaller office where you have the whole building than contracting in place and lease some floors. Plus the prestige/snob value of having the whole building.

    Seems like many people aren’t aware of the ding ding battle between the Old City and a Canary Wharf since the later was created. Prices and quality of buildings… it’s an example of an actual market in real estate functioning.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,690
    ydoethur said:

    Ugh.

    Mitchell Marsh looking far too good her.e

    Thanks sir. Yet again you have come to England's rescue. :)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,987
    edited July 2023
    'Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    edited July 2023

    ydoethur said:

    Ugh.

    Mitchell Marsh looking far too good her.e

    Thanks sir. Yet again you have come to England's rescue. :)
    That's pitching it strong, while Smith is there the Aussies remain favourites for a big first innings lead.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Andy_JS said:

    Shocking VAR decision going against Haiti.

    They could still make it through if they beat Denmark and England beat China. Not yet impossible that England miss out, but I think probably unlikely.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,437
    edited July 2023
    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263
    edited July 2023
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Sandpit said:

    A proper batsmen’s innings from Labuchagne there. Nine runs from 82 balls!

    It's nice to have some real test cricket for a change, instead of playing as if it's a 20/20 match.
    There's no rule to say how you have to play test cricket.
    England want a result; Australia don't. Each side is playing accordingly.

    Both approaches are entirely "real".
    And there’s nothing to stop us pointing out that Australia are a boring, cautious side compared to England, and that Test cricket - if it is to have any future (I doubt it does, after this series) - has to adopt a more English mentality. A result at almost any cost
    Australia's approach made sense - until they lost five wickets.
    The problem with scoring slowly is that you don't make runs quickly. :smiley:

    Their gamble - which might still work - is to tire England's bowlers, so they'll struggle to take ten wickets in the second innings.
    It's precariously balanced at the moment.
  • council by-election result:

    Brilliant result for my Party in Sussex. yesterday.

    Heathfield and Mayfield (East Sussex) council by-election result:

    GRN: 61.5% (+43.0)
    CON: 38.5% (-20.7)

    No Lab (-11.6) and LDem (-10.7) as prev.

    Votes cast: 2,231

    Green GAIN from Conservative.

    And well done for the parties of SKS and SED for standing aside to enable that triumph. A big win for pragmatic, progressive politics.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,888
    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    Our legislators have nothing better to do than banning the sale of food item X in conjunction with food item Y while the purchase of X and Y remain entirely legal?

    Ham and trifle in combination illegal?
    Lime juice cordial and basmati rice?
    Potatoes and mint flavoured ice cream?

    Are they insane?

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,869
    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    Our legislators have nothing better to do than banning the sale of food item X in conjunction with food item Y while the purchase of X and Y remain entirely legal?

    Ham and trifle in combination illegal?
    Lime juice cordial and basmati rice?
    Potatoes and mint flavoured ice cream?

    Are they insane?

    If they're not, they will certainly do until some genuinely insane MPs turn up.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    Does that mean her lettuce has wilted?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,395
    edited July 2023
    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    Our legislators have nothing better to do than banning the sale of food item X in conjunction with food item Y while the purchase of X and Y remain entirely legal?

    Ham and trifle in combination illegal?
    Lime juice cordial and basmati rice?
    Potatoes and mint flavoured ice cream?

    Are they insane?

    The [edit] pre-allocated quantities provided in the box. Temptation to cook and eat the lot, plus sometimes not being sure what to do with the leftovers anyway (which is somewhat implicit in the entire concept).
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,032
    ydoethur said:

    Ugh.

    Mitchell Marsh looking far too good her.e

    Inspired but its Smith you should have gone for.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    Our legislators have nothing better to do than banning the sale of food item X in conjunction with food item Y while the purchase of X and Y remain entirely legal?

    Ham and trifle in combination illegal?
    Lime juice cordial and basmati rice?
    Potatoes and mint flavoured ice cream?

    Are they insane?

    Clearly you don't work in education or you wouldn't need to ask that.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    There’s a young male busker here who is so utterly tuneless and dreary I might actually report him for draft dodging
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153
    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    Our legislators have nothing better to do than banning the sale of food item X in conjunction with food item Y while the purchase of X and Y remain entirely legal?

    Ham and trifle in combination illegal?
    Lime juice cordial and basmati rice?
    Potatoes and mint flavoured ice cream?

    Are they insane?

    My first thought is that *some* prepared meals are extremely low in whatever factor you are interested in - sugar, fat, salt. Because people look for and pay for that.

    Bet you that the political problem is that the cheap prepared meals are where the problem is. So a nuanced ban would hit the £2.99 frozen meals, leaving the £15 a portion market untouched.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,546
    HYUFD said:

    'Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    I don't know what the grudge is against meals that you can cook at home.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    Ugh.

    Mitchell Marsh looking far too good her.e

    Inspired but its Smith you should have gone for.
    Marsh has a better record than Smith in this series.

    But yes, Smith is still the key and he's looking far too good.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Leon said:

    There’s a young male busker here who is so utterly tuneless and dreary I might actually report him for draft dodging

    Mozart played in four flats.

    His neighbours complained so much about the noise he had to move three times.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Sheesh, Anderson looked an old man in that delivery.

    And he's only a few months older than I am.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,032
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    ydoethur said:

    Ugh.

    Mitchell Marsh looking far too good her.e

    Inspired but its Smith you should have gone for.
    Marsh has a better record than Smith in this series.

    But yes, Smith is still the key and he's looking far too good.
    Anderson still not making them play enough. He got a lucky play on but he is at least a couple of stumps too far outside off.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    Which official made this “official”?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,558
    Leon said:

    There’s a young male busker here who is so utterly tuneless and dreary I might actually report him for draft dodging

    Are you sure it’s not just Morrisey on his European tour?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited July 2023

    council by-election result:

    Brilliant result for my Party in Sussex. yesterday.

    Heathfield and Mayfield (East Sussex) council by-election result:

    GRN: 61.5% (+43.0)
    CON: 38.5% (-20.7)

    No Lab (-11.6) and LDem (-10.7) as prev.

    Votes cast: 2,231

    Green GAIN from Conservative.

    Blimey. Thus is truest-blue country, and E. Sussex has actually been very well run by the Conservatives.

    Full disclosure: I voted Conservative. As it happens, our MP Nus Ghani was acting as a teller when I voted. I know her very well from the days when I was a party member. She's a good MP, currently doing excellent work on helping Ukraine with planning for (and actually doing) reconstruction, in particular helping them with the process of negotiating contracts with Western companies.

    After exchanging pleasantries, she asked me whether they could rely on my vote. "In the locals, yes, but I'm afraid not in national elections, sorry." We had an interesting exchange on what it would take to change my mind. I gave her a long list, starting with getting rid of Suella Braverman.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263

    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
    Teller was also an agnostic of Jewish origins - and was decidedly not persecuted in the same way.
    The greatest intellect of them all - von Neumann - ditto.

    But I do think Baddiel has a point, not just about the casting but possibly the movie too, if it ignores the cultural background of the protagonists.
    (I have yet to watch it.)
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,869

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    It smacks of MPs away from home wolfing down an M&S dine in for two, and blaming the existence of such evil wizardry for their spare tyre.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    Some of these meals are horrific piles of fat, sugar, salt and preservative chemicals. Some.

    Mandating food standards has been a thing since medieval times.

    What they need the guts (ha!) to do, is to mandate levels. Say you get a Green, Amber or Red band on the box. Big old massive stripe. So people are aware.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263
    .
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    There’s a young male busker here who is so utterly tuneless and dreary I might actually report him for draft dodging

    Are you sure it’s not just Morrisey on his European tour?
    'Young' ??
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    There’s a young male busker here who is so utterly tuneless and dreary I might actually report him for draft dodging

    Mozart played in four flats.

    His neighbours complained so much about the noise he had to move three times.
    Long ago, in the Age of Paper Tickets, on the tannoy at Tottenham Court Tube - “London Underground would like to apologise for the quality of your busker this evening”.

    Everyone stopped, including the busker. After an awkward moment, he started packing up.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,049

    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
    Yep I liked very much Baddiel's "Jews Don't Count" but this is not right. It's....pause....acting. Or should we take away Daniel Day Lewis' My Left Foot Oscar.

    Even if it focused on his Jewishness and nothing else then so what. It's a portrayal.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,976
    Well.

    Yorkshire have been docked 48 points from the 2023 County Championship and fined £400,000 - of which £300,000 is suspended for two years - for their handling of the Azeem Rafiq racism scandal.

    They have also been deducted four points in the 2023 T20 Blast.

    Yorkshire said they accepted the sanctions imposed by the Cricket Discipline Commission.

    The club had previously admitted four amended charges.

    Former Yorkshire player Rafiq said English cricket was "institutionally racist", and racist language was used "constantly" at the


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66339035
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263
    edited July 2023
    Little T20-style passage of play there from Root.

    Canny bowling for a batsman.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772

    Well.

    Yorkshire have been docked 48 points from the 2023 County Championship and fined £400,000 - of which £300,000 is suspended for two years - for their handling of the Azeem Rafiq racism scandal.

    They have also been deducted four points in the 2023 T20 Blast.

    Yorkshire said they accepted the sanctions imposed by the Cricket Discipline Commission.

    The club had previously admitted four amended charges.

    Former Yorkshire player Rafiq said English cricket was "institutionally racist", and racist language was used "constantly" at the


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66339035

    Excellent news.

    Gloucestershire will not now finish bottom.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263
    ydoethur said:

    Well.

    Yorkshire have been docked 48 points from the 2023 County Championship and fined £400,000 - of which £300,000 is suspended for two years - for their handling of the Azeem Rafiq racism scandal.

    They have also been deducted four points in the 2023 T20 Blast.

    Yorkshire said they accepted the sanctions imposed by the Cricket Discipline Commission.

    The club had previously admitted four amended charges.

    Former Yorkshire player Rafiq said English cricket was "institutionally racist", and racist language was used "constantly" at the


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66339035

    Excellent news.

    Gloucestershire will not now finish bottom.
    Harsh, but fair.
    To both teams.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153
    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
    Teller was also an agnostic of Jewish origins - and was decidedly not persecuted in the same way.
    The greatest intellect of them all - von Neumann - ditto.

    But I do think Baddiel has a point, not just about the casting but possibly the movie too, if it ignores the cultural background of the protagonists.
    (I have yet to watch it.)
    Oppenheimer got into trouble because in an age when sympathisers to Soviet Communism were stealing secrets by the ton*, he was a fellow traveller and his brother was a full bore communist. He (Oppenheimer) had real, actual NKVD agents attending cocktail parties at his house. Invited by his brother - but still. Then he told some weird lies to security people about being approached by the NKVD.


    *litterally. The story of the Alaskan base where flights to the USSR in WWII happened is hilarious.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Well.

    Yorkshire have been docked 48 points from the 2023 County Championship and fined £400,000 - of which £300,000 is suspended for two years - for their handling of the Azeem Rafiq racism scandal.

    They have also been deducted four points in the 2023 T20 Blast.

    Yorkshire said they accepted the sanctions imposed by the Cricket Discipline Commission.

    The club had previously admitted four amended charges.

    Former Yorkshire player Rafiq said English cricket was "institutionally racist", and racist language was used "constantly" at the


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66339035

    Excellent news.

    Gloucestershire will not now finish bottom.
    Harsh, but fair.
    To both teams.
    Gloucestershire have been brutally unlucky with the weather.

    But they haven't made it count when they have got on the field.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Well, getting Carey is a plus.

    But it looks like nothing will shift Sandpaper Enabler.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,468
    ydoethur said:

    Well, getting Carey is a plus.

    But it looks like nothing will shift Sandpaper Enabler.

    He's a gritty batsman.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,416
    HYUFD said:

    ...

    Andy_JS said:
    It would have helped a lot if the bonus cap had gone. It is nonsensical self-harm to keep it.
    It is to do with reducing office space as more wfh
    The problem is, are they wfh in UK or wfh in other countries?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263

    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
    Teller was also an agnostic of Jewish origins - and was decidedly not persecuted in the same way.
    The greatest intellect of them all - von Neumann - ditto.

    But I do think Baddiel has a point, not just about the casting but possibly the movie too, if it ignores the cultural background of the protagonists.
    (I have yet to watch it.)
    Oppenheimer got into trouble because in an age when sympathisers to Soviet Communism were stealing secrets by the ton*, he was a fellow traveller and his brother was a full bore communist. He (Oppenheimer) had real, actual NKVD agents attending cocktail parties at his house. Invited by his brother - but still. Then he told some weird lies to security people about being approached by the NKVD.


    *literally. The story of the Alaskan base where flights to the USSR in WWII happened is hilarious.
    Rhodes' Dark Sun is very good on both those stories.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,302
    Nigel Farage and Gina Miller now on the same side:

    https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/1684916350207066112
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,395

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    However, there's soemthing odd going on with those meal deals anyway in terms of inflation, as @kinabalu (I think) was remarking the other day, quite coincidentally.

    One other way of superkarkets dealing with inflation is to reduce product quality so I wonder if there is a bit of that going on here.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    Leon said:

    There’s a young male busker here who is so utterly tuneless and dreary I might actually report him for draft dodging

    Hendrix got himself out of the 101st airborne by pretending to be gay, so be careful of any overtures from this guy
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,869

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    Some of these meals are horrific piles of fat, sugar, salt and preservative chemicals. Some.

    Mandating food standards has been a thing since medieval times.

    What they need the guts (ha!) to do, is to mandate levels. Say you get a Green, Amber or Red band on the box. Big old massive stripe. So people are aware.
    Both salt and fat are essential to human health, though the case for refined sugar is a lot weaker. Personally I hate a ready-meal where they're removed all the salt - I reach for the salt immediately.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,395

    Nigel Farage and Gina Miller now on the same side:

    https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/1684916350207066112

    Not comparable. Personal account of a PEP, and political party account. Both hassles to have, is th eonly connection.

    Even the DT is publishing articles feelign sorry for the poor banks and demanding they be left alone (or so it looks from the bit I can see), as I remarked a little earlier.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    edited July 2023
    Leon said:

    I believe am literally the only foreigner in this melancholy old gem of a Habsburg city


    NYT did a featured feature on Chernivtsi a week or so ago.

    When I was a grad student many years ago, a professor told us about a friend of his, a woman of German ancestry who was born and grew up in Bukovina. Until she and her family were evacuated/transported to Germany during (not after) WW2.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukovina_Germans

    At that time was studying records from Imperial Austrian census reports. Even for the Dual Monarchy, the demographics of Bukovina - the easternmost and most backward province of the Austrian half of the Hapsburg Empire - was incredibly diverse.

    For example, at one point, one of the delegation that Bukovina sent to the Reichsrath in Vienna, included a representative of . . . wait for it . . . the Armenian Poles.

    A community descended from Armenian merchants who'd settled in Bukovina back when it was part of Ottoman Moldavia. And who'd assimilated to Polish language and culture, during period when the Poles ran the local roost.

    The were able to elect one of their own to Viennese parliament at turn of 18th>19th-century, due to the property qualifications for voting AND representation, which gave the wealthier section of the populace - including the Armenian Poles - a very disproportionate share.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukovina
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    However, there's soemthing odd going on with those meal deals anyway in terms of inflation, as @kinabalu (I think) was remarking the other day, quite coincidentally.

    One other way of superkarkets dealing with inflation is to reduce product quality so I wonder if there is a bit of that going on here.
    Superkarket is genius branding for the co-op funeral service
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,215
    The cricket isn't as bad as I expected it to be based on the comments here. One could almost say finely balanced. We were 184 for 3 at one point in our first innings.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
    Teller was also an agnostic of Jewish origins - and was decidedly not persecuted in the same way.
    The greatest intellect of them all - von Neumann - ditto.

    But I do think Baddiel has a point, not just about the casting but possibly the movie too, if it ignores the cultural background of the protagonists.
    (I have yet to watch it.)
    Honestly, representation on stage and screen is a difficult issue full of grey areas. Do I think, as Michael Sheen suggested the other day, that Welsh parts should go to Welsh actors only? No.

    Do I think that actors with actual disabilities should have as much chance to play characters with disabilities? Yes, I do. Equally, do I think movies and TV would put a little more thought in casting non-white people to non-white roles (Hollywood has a long track record of casting people as 'generic brown' to represent a whole gamut of ethnicities)? Yes, also.

    It's hard to deal in absolutes here. I think it comes down to a couple of things: representation and authenticity, and is not (or should not be) about essentialism. Can a cisgender person authentically play a trans character? Yes, I think so - but is it fair that all that trans roles go to non-trans actors? No. Ditto Jewish characters. So he does have a point, but I don't agree entirely.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263
    edited July 2023
    Miklosvar said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    However, there's soemthing odd going on with those meal deals anyway in terms of inflation, as @kinabalu (I think) was remarking the other day, quite coincidentally.

    One other way of superkarkets dealing with inflation is to reduce product quality so I wonder if there is a bit of that going on here.
    Superkarket is genius branding for the co-op funeral service
    Or the mass market version of Dignitas.

    Checkout at the checkouts.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,215

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    Some of these meals are horrific piles of fat, sugar, salt and preservative chemicals. Some.

    Mandating food standards has been a thing since medieval times.

    What they need the guts (ha!) to do, is to mandate levels. Say you get a Green, Amber or Red band on the box. Big old massive stripe. So people are aware.
    Both salt and fat are essential to human health, though the case for refined sugar is a lot weaker. Personally I hate a ready-meal where they're removed all the salt - I reach for the salt immediately.

    I seem to recall reading a while back that when guidelines on salt content were introduced for ready meals the manufacturers reached into the sugar jar to compensate for the loss of flavour. Hence lots of fatties waddling around the streets these days.

    A decent dollop of salt plus some MSG and citric acid, melded together with good honest unprocessed fats and you have a tasty meal. It's when the glucose syrup, modified corn starch and hydrogenated vegetable oil start to make an appearance that things go downhill.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,690
    Carnyx said:

    Nigel Farage and Gina Miller now on the same side:

    https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/1684916350207066112

    Not comparable. Personal account of a PEP, and political party account. Both hassles to have, is th eonly connection.

    Even the DT is publishing articles feelign sorry for the poor banks and demanding they be left alone (or so it looks from the bit I can see), as I remarked a little earlier.
    I think it is comparable. Banks are a vital utility, not a trade and they should not be permitted to bar or remove customers except for very specific legal reasons.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,263
    Ghedebrav said:

    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:
    Well, he's got a point about ethnic casting although whether Baddiel is best placed to make it in light of his Fantasy Football exploits is another question. But in this particular instance, Baddiel is in danger of arguing they should have made a quite different film focussing on Oppenheimer's Jewish background, in which case a Jewish actor might have been more important, perhaps an atheist too. The reason Oppenheimer was (arguably) persecuted was because of his politics and humanity, not his religion or ethnicity.
    Teller was also an agnostic of Jewish origins - and was decidedly not persecuted in the same way.
    The greatest intellect of them all - von Neumann - ditto.

    But I do think Baddiel has a point, not just about the casting but possibly the movie too, if it ignores the cultural background of the protagonists.
    (I have yet to watch it.)
    Honestly, representation on stage and screen is a difficult issue full of grey areas. Do I think, as Michael Sheen suggested the other day, that Welsh parts should go to Welsh actors only? No.

    Do I think that actors with actual disabilities should have as much chance to play characters with disabilities? Yes, I do. Equally, do I think movies and TV would put a little more thought in casting non-white people to non-white roles (Hollywood has a long track record of casting people as 'generic brown' to represent a whole gamut of ethnicities)? Yes, also.

    It's hard to deal in absolutes here. I think it comes down to a couple of things: representation and authenticity, and is not (or should not be) about essentialism. Can a cisgender person authentically play a trans character? Yes, I think so - but is it fair that all that trans roles go to non-trans actors? No. Ditto Jewish characters. So he does have a point, but I don't agree entirely.
    I'm not as bothered by the casting as what Baddiel has to say about the storytelling.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,959
    "The secret messages behind the lab-leak cover-up
    Beijing was helped by a cabal of conspiring scientists
    Ian Birrell"

    https://unherd.com/2023/07/the-secret-messages-behind-the-lab-leak-cover-up/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Starc out pulling.

    Should Alyssa Healy be worried?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606
    Oh god he’s still busking

    I just saw a group of very dark south Asians walk last. Possibly Tamil or South Indian. Really dark

    They were speaking pure Ukrainian
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,215
    Nigelb said:

    Miklosvar said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    However, there's soemthing odd going on with those meal deals anyway in terms of inflation, as @kinabalu (I think) was remarking the other day, quite coincidentally.

    One other way of superkarkets dealing with inflation is to reduce product quality so I wonder if there is a bit of that going on here.
    Superkarket is genius branding for the co-op funeral service
    Or the mass market version of Dignitas.

    Checkout at the checkouts.
    Superbarket - dog food wholesaler
    Superharket - Record store dedicated to classic Aha tracks
    Supernarket - illicit drug store
    Superparket - large car park
    Superquarket - German curd cheese outlet
    Supersnarket - Twitter
    Supersharket - Rare marine delicacy counter
    Supersparket - hardware store for electricians

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    edited July 2023
    Australia's two best batsmen now at the crease.

    England still up against it.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,475

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    It feels a bit like bullying (not you).

    She said something daft in the heat of the moment. Her career is in ruins. She’s never going to the House of Lords

    And yet people point and laugh. And point and laugh. And again.

    Leave her alone at this point
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Sandpit said:

    A proper batsmen’s innings from Labuchagne there. Nine runs from 82 balls!

    It's nice to have some real test cricket for a change, instead of playing as if it's a 20/20 match.
    There's no rule to say how you have to play test cricket.
    England want a result; Australia don't. Each side is playing accordingly.

    Both approaches are entirely "real".
    And there’s nothing to stop us pointing out that Australia are a boring, cautious side compared to England, and that Test cricket - if it is to have any future (I doubt it does, after this series) - has to adopt a more English mentality. A result at almost any cost
    There has to be a response to letting bad weather deprive this Ashes series of being a thrilling and decisive contest.

    Or it really will be the end of Test cricket.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,035
    Proper monsoon at Spa now, not looking good for qualifying.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Sandpit said:

    A proper batsmen’s innings from Labuchagne there. Nine runs from 82 balls!

    It's nice to have some real test cricket for a change, instead of playing as if it's a 20/20 match.
    There's no rule to say how you have to play test cricket.
    England want a result; Australia don't. Each side is playing accordingly.

    Both approaches are entirely "real".
    And there’s nothing to stop us pointing out that Australia are a boring, cautious side compared to England, and that Test cricket - if it is to have any future (I doubt it does, after this series) - has to adopt a more English mentality. A result at almost any cost
    There has to be a response to letting bad weather deprive this Ashes series of being a thrilling and decisive contest.

    Or it really will be the end of Test cricket.
    Definitely. Start by telling England's batsmen not to bat like headless chickens when they're 180-2 and going like a train.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,959
    "Analysis
    How the AfD won over Germany
    The political mainstream is blind to their allure
    BY LILY LYNCH"

    https://unherd.com/2023/07/how-the-afd-won-over-germany/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Sandpit said:

    Proper monsoon at Spa now, not looking good for qualifying.

    If there is no qualifying, what happens? Will they delight Mr Dancer's heart by cancelling the SRBS?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,959
    edited July 2023
    ydoethur said:

    Australia's two best batsmen now at the crease.

    England still up against it.

    Once again, England are going to play the most entertaining cricket in this match, and Australia are probably going to win it. But that's okay because England have said they're not "results oriented".

    https://sports.ndtv.com/ashes-2023/if-theyre-not-results-driven-ricky-pontings-jibe-at-england-test-team-post-loss-in-ashes-opener-4146598
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,035

    Well.

    Yorkshire have been docked 48 points from the 2023 County Championship and fined £400,000 - of which £300,000 is suspended for two years - for their handling of the Azeem Rafiq racism scandal.

    They have also been deducted four points in the 2023 T20 Blast.

    Yorkshire said they accepted the sanctions imposed by the Cricket Discipline Commission.

    The club had previously admitted four amended charges.

    Former Yorkshire player Rafiq said English cricket was "institutionally racist", and racist language was used "constantly" at the


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66339035

    A proper punishment.

    FIA please take note, for when Red Bull are found to have overspent again.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    It feels a bit like bullying (not you).

    She said something daft in the heat of the moment. Her career is in ruins. She’s never going to the House of Lords

    And yet people point and laugh. And point and laugh. And again.

    Leave her alone at this point
    Give her the job of CEO of Coutts?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    Wait until Labour take office.

    This sort of stuff is going to get much worse.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,337
    edited July 2023
    Ah yes, putting a case of used fivers into the bank. Totally a normal thing to do & definitely shouldn’t raise any red flags according to Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town: https://twitter.com/tracyalloway/status/1684905672490496000

    Obviously one can come up with perfectly reasonable explanations for someone to be stuffing cash into a bank account, but the idea that this is normal thing to do that doesn’t need explaining is clearly ridiculous on it’s face. What this woman really means is that /people like her/ shouldn’t have to answer these questions.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
    Leon said:

    Oh god he’s still busking

    I just saw a group of very dark south Asians walk last. Possibly Tamil or South Indian. Really dark

    They were speaking pure Ukrainian

    I saw a massive Union Jack beach towel draped across one of the sunloungers here at the resort swimming pool, and naturally assumed it was a British family on hols.

    A middle-aged Ukrainian lady sat down on it with her daughter, next to her Ukrainian friend.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,035
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Proper monsoon at Spa now, not looking good for qualifying.

    If there is no qualifying, what happens? Will they delight Mr Dancer's heart by cancelling the SRBS?
    They’ll wait out the light this evening, then try again in the morning, or possibly merge the main Q session with the s****t Q session.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,640

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    Wait until Labour take office.

    This sort of stuff is going to get much worse.
    When LAB get in there will be a limit of no more than 10 posts a day per person on political blogs😈
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,156

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    It feels a bit like bullying (not you).

    She said something daft in the heat of the moment. Her career is in ruins. She’s never going to the House of Lords

    And yet people point and laugh. And point and laugh. And again.

    Leave her alone at this point
    I assume this is intended as satire but can't quite tell.....
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,772
    Phil said:

    Ah yes, putting a case of used fivers into the bank. Totally a normal thing to do & definitely shouldn’t raise any red flags according to Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town: https://twitter.com/tracyalloway/status/1684905672490496000

    The way I read it, she's actually saying that's what *should* raise a red flag, rather than having too many necklaces.
  • MiklosvarMiklosvar Posts: 1,855

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    It feels a bit like bullying (not you).

    She said something daft in the heat of the moment. Her career is in ruins. She’s never going to the House of Lords

    And yet people point and laugh. And point and laugh. And again.

    Leave her alone at this point
    Your penultimate paragraph resonates with me much, much more than your final one
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,972
    With Red Bull having won 12 races on the bounce, does that mean that the RB19 is a better car than the utterly magnificent McLaren MP4/4 which only won 11 on the bounce?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,915
    edited July 2023

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Sandpit said:

    A proper batsmen’s innings from Labuchagne there. Nine runs from 82 balls!

    It's nice to have some real test cricket for a change, instead of playing as if it's a 20/20 match.
    There's no rule to say how you have to play test cricket.
    England want a result; Australia don't. Each side is playing accordingly.

    Both approaches are entirely "real".
    And there’s nothing to stop us pointing out that Australia are a boring, cautious side compared to England, and that Test cricket - if it is to have any future (I doubt it does, after this series) - has to adopt a more English mentality. A result at almost any cost
    There has to be a response to letting bad weather deprive this Ashes series of being a thrilling and decisive contest.

    Or it really will be the end of Test cricket.
    Get the players to bowl the overs they're supposed to bowl when it isn't raining. Waterproof the ball so it doesn't die when the outfield is damp.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,153

    HYUFD said:

    Cook-at-home meal deals ‘should be banned to tackle obesity’
    A cross-party committee of MPs has recommended the move as part of a broader crackdown on junk food promotions'

    'Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, said in June: “I firmly believe in people’s right to choose – and at a time when household budgets are under continuing pressure from the global rise in food prices, it is not fair for government to restrict the options available to consumers on their weekly shop.”

    However, the committee, which described the delay as “regrettable”, called on the Government to instead expand the regulation'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/28/ban-cook-at-home-meals-tackle-obesity-food-committee-efra/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1690531688-1

    That is truly bonkers. What they describe as "meal deals" are a starter, a main and a side. Perhaps they should ban people having multiple courses in a restaurant as well.
    Wait until Labour take office.

    This sort of stuff is going to get much worse.
    When LAB get in there will be a limit of no more than 10 posts a day per person on political blogs😈
    You jest, perhaps.

    But some deep greens are suggesting limiting online activity and compute capability due to energy usage. Apparently, they think that what’s needed is Proper Usage Only Internet access.

    Guess who defines “Proper”?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Sandpit said:

    A proper batsmen’s innings from Labuchagne there. Nine runs from 82 balls!

    It's nice to have some real test cricket for a change, instead of playing as if it's a 20/20 match.
    There's no rule to say how you have to play test cricket.
    England want a result; Australia don't. Each side is playing accordingly.

    Both approaches are entirely "real".
    And there’s nothing to stop us pointing out that Australia are a boring, cautious side compared to England, and that Test cricket - if it is to have any future (I doubt it does, after this series) - has to adopt a more English mentality. A result at almost any cost
    There has to be a response to letting bad weather deprive this Ashes series of being a thrilling and decisive contest.

    Or it really will be the end of Test cricket.
    Absolutely

    Without that stupid rain enforced draw, this would be one of the great Test matches of all time

    It must never happen again. Simple as that
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,003

    TimS said:

    Meanwhile in good net zero news / UK falling behind the competition warning:

    China *added* more solar capacity in H1 this year than the *total* UK generating capacity across all forms of energy.

    https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1684911164814237696?s=46

    You want us to use as much energy as China? Where do I sign?
    China also has plenty of unproductive land to use, unlike the UK.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,337
    ydoethur said:

    Phil said:

    Ah yes, putting a case of used fivers into the bank. Totally a normal thing to do & definitely shouldn’t raise any red flags according to Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town: https://twitter.com/tracyalloway/status/1684905672490496000

    The way I read it, she's actually saying that's what *should* raise a red flag, rather than having too many necklaces.
    You’re right, I misread it!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,606

    Leon said:

    Oh god he’s still busking

    I just saw a group of very dark south Asians walk last. Possibly Tamil or South Indian. Really dark

    They were speaking pure Ukrainian

    I saw a massive Union Jack beach towel draped across one of the sunloungers here at the resort swimming pool, and naturally assumed it was a British family on hols.

    A middle-aged Ukrainian lady sat down on it with her daughter, next to her Ukrainian friend.
    You get it everywhere. I had it this lunchtime as they served my bruschetta. The waiter leaned a bit closer as he heard my accent and he said “England?”

    And I said yes and he beamed and said “England is great country!”

    They really are grateful. Boris (and others) did good
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,976

    With Red Bull having won 12 races on the bounce, does that mean that the RB19 is a better car than the utterly magnificent McLaren MP4/4 which only won 11 on the bounce?

    No.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,215

    Leon said:

    Oh god he’s still busking

    I just saw a group of very dark south Asians walk last. Possibly Tamil or South Indian. Really dark

    They were speaking pure Ukrainian

    I saw a massive Union Jack beach towel draped across one of the sunloungers here at the resort swimming pool, and naturally assumed it was a British family on hols.

    A middle-aged Ukrainian lady sat down on it with her daughter, next to her Ukrainian friend.
    The union jack is a proper global fashion icon - you see it in all sorts of random places like on French handbags or cushions in Italian sitting rooms, things that have no actual meaningful connection with Britain. I like that about it and it's why it's so much better than the cross of St George which just evokes England losing heroically in football tournaments.

    Other flags with the same iconic impact only loosely connected with the actual country? The stars and stripes obviously, but then what? Jamaica arguably. Cuba at a push. But everything else is getting much more nationally-focused e.g. if you see an Italian flag it's going to be on a sports car or ice cream vendor.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,959
    "Sweden is in denial about its gun-crime problem
    Our national self-image as a safe, caring country is starting to unravel.
    Jacob Sundberg"

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/07/27/sweden-is-in-denial-about-its-gun-crime-problem/
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,437

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    It feels a bit like bullying (not you).

    She said something daft in the heat of the moment. Her career is in ruins. She’s never going to the House of Lords

    And yet people point and laugh. And point and laugh. And again.

    Leave her alone at this point
    That said, it would be nice for her constituents if Nadine Dorries got back to her day job.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,475

    Ned Hartley @NedHartley

    Today marks that day where it has officially taken Nadine Dorries longer to resign than Liz Truss was Prime Minister


    https://twitter.com/NedHartley/status/1684862990573547520

    It feels a bit like bullying (not you).

    She said something daft in the heat of the moment. Her career is in ruins. She’s never going to the House of Lords

    And yet people point and laugh. And point and laugh. And again.

    Leave her alone at this point
    Give her the job of CEO of Coutts?
    I was going with Dido Harding to be honest. We know she’s really good with protecting confidential information.
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