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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314

    ydoethur said:

    You've submitted at least ten puns in the hope one would get you on it.

    Sadly, no pun in ten did.

    Today I bought a dog from the local blacksmith, as soon as we arrived home he made a bolt for the door.
    Did your reputation hinge on it?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,723
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    You've submitted at least ten puns in the hope one would get you on it.

    Sadly, no pun in ten did.

    Today I bought a dog from the local blacksmith, as soon as we arrived home he made a bolt for the door.
    Did your reputation hinge on it?
    I will bracket that amongst the most punishing comments of the day.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,856
    Have to admit I did chuckle at a few of these, you'd almost believe it was a serious piece.

    Meet the new swing voters - Demographics that will make a difference
    Boomer Brenda. Brenda was born in 1953 and has spent the last two decades telling people about life in World War Two. She lives in the village of Plumley-on-Len, which has been in a Conservative constituency for the last 897 years. Still, she is outraged with Rishi Sunak for not responding to her letters about her opposition to the cancer research laboratory which is being built two kilometres from her home and would force dog walkers to take a very slightly different route. She doesn’t own a dog.

    https://thecritic.co.uk/meet-the-new-swing-voters/
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,891

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    algarkirk said:

    kinabalu said:

    Sean_F said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    Depressing write up on BBC about Trump's town hall event. Basically that he will never stop saying 2020 was rigged, will pardon 6 Jan rioters, will definitely shift policy on Ukraine (though exactly how is unclear, but ending it in 24 hours as he suggests could only occur if he stopped ongoing support), and that the audience was eating out of the palm of his hand.

    If they get the chance the party will pick him again and the representatives will fall in line.

    Yes, not a good read. It's hard to see him winning the presidency back, with things as they are now, but it'd be better if he isn't on the ballot as the GOP candidate. If he gets the Nom he has to have a non-trivial chance just because of 'events', eg a Biden incident, a bank crash, something in Russia/Ukraine etc.
    The nomination is his to lose. Could he become president then? Of course, especially if the economic backdrop worsens, as seems likely.
    Very scary on so many levels. Good for all the worst people (eg the MAGA goons and Putin) and bad for everyone else. If it were to happen my Big Short would turn into the worst single betting loss I've ever had and I can honestly hand-on-heart say I don't even think about that aspect. That's how bleak a prospect it is.
    I'd give Trump about a 40% chance of winning, if he runs against Biden. That is far too close for comfort.
    Share the sentiment but I rate it more a 25%.
    On this subject, there is an interesting feature about PB. SFAICS there are several people/positions that have Zero support with PBers. These include: Trump, Xi, Putin, Assad, all sides in Sudan, North Korea, the Burmese government and so on.

    Of these one leaps out as different. Trump has tens of millions of loyal supporters in a free market liberal democracy with a free press.

    But not a word of support on PB (me included) ever, while Trump is 5/2 with Hills to be the next POTUS.

    is this because:
    (a) the PB Overton window is actually quite small
    (b) because nearly half the USA really are as authoritarian fascistlike as Putin and co and Trump's position resembles 1930s Germany
    (c) something else. (What?)
    An American PB equivalent might show more Trump support, I guess. There are things about the country we struggle to understand. Although tbh I think you're being a touch generous (to us) by saying 'not a word of support' for him on here ever. I recall a fair amount in the past, and ok there's very little now but still some. Plus there will be PBers who secretly have a soft spot and keep shtum to avoid a tongue lashing.
    I have a soft spot for someone who is democratically elected by any given electorate so put me in the democracy not as bad as all the other systems column.
    Yep. An elected President Trump is better than an unelected President Trump. However there's a risk the first leads to the second so it's best to play safe and have neither imo.
    I really don't see that. Not that as we have seen we have been at the end of any kind of history but you are saying that the US is possibly headed towards autarchy I just don't believe.

    Of course loathe the man but don't let that colour your usually razor-sharp assessment of the state of politics today.
    Well he had to be dragged out last time, tried to rig the election, pulling rank to intimidate officials into conjuring up votes for him, tried to get his VP to quash the certification and allow States to override with slates for him to swing it and keep him in power. This is all on the record. It happened. It didn't work but he tried alright.

    So, ok, a repeat and this time successful might be far from a given - but it's a definite possibility given another 4 years in control of the GOP and the Federal government, his foaming gullible base, the levers he could pull, stack the courts, stack the legislatures, placemen all over, the manipulations etc. Object: Trump/MAGA forever.

    If you don't see at least a risk worth worrying about I'll have to put it down to you not following American politics that closely. Which I know you don't and it's fair enough. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
    Trump/MAGA forever. He couldn't even get himself together to overturn the last election I think forever is a stretch.

    But as you are such a close follower of US politics I will take heed and upgrade the probability of Trump/MAGA forever from 0.000001% to 0.000002%.

    Thank you for your insight. I will bet accordingly.
    No need to be quite so literal. 'Trump/MAGA forever' means achieving corruption on a scale that makes him/them very hard to dislodge by the conventional means of a free & fair election.

    The risk of this is far higher than you have it there. You need to move the decimal point quite a way to the right. Course if he had managed it last time we wouldn't need to assess the risk, would we? It'd be 100%.
    "...if he had managed..."

    But he didn't and my point is I believe the system in the US is robust enough to see off any attempt to overthrow the government by force.

    We have already discussed Jan 6th and agreed, those sane posters on PB have agreed, that is, that it was far from a coup attempt. If that's what you mean. Don't put yourself on the side of the insane posters by saying that Jan 6th was a coup.
    Is there a list of which posters are sane or insane?
    Here's Topping's 'sane' list:

    1. Topping









    A lot of uncertainty here

    solid (or dull!)
    Big_G_NorthWales
    Sean_F
    eek
    algakirk
    OldKingCole
    williamglenn
    Nigelb
    OnlyLivingBoy

    possibly sane
    TOPPING
    kinabalu
    Andy_JS
    kle
    JosiasJessop
    Foxy
    Richard_Tyndall
    rcs1000

    definitely a bit unhinged
    Nigel_Foremain
    Sunil_Prasannan
    BlancheLivermore
    viewcode
    bigjohnowls

    completely barking
    MoonRabbit
    Dura_Ace
    CarlottaVance
    Casino_Royale
    HYUFD
    Dialup
    Obviously you missed the list of modest, working class, and humble PBers of which I would have been the sole member of.
    Indeed. A poor list. An average second team at best
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,308
    Roger said:

    Good news on the way?

    Earnings rising by 7% a year whilst house prices forecast to fall 5 or maybe 10%. If earnings rise 4-5% for another five years and house prices remain stable the ratio of prices to earnings* would go from 9:1 to about 6.5:1 - which I could live with.

    *back of cigarette packet calculation.

    Don't waste your fag packets. We're in the shit
    And the current unstable economic scenario isn’t going to sail on unchanged for five years, anyhow. What sort of an assumption is that?
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    nico679nico679 Posts: 4,869
    Roger said:

    Ian Martin on Ch4 News now virtually admitting that Brexit -which he supported -has turned out 'a huge mess'. Considering he was the guest speaking up for Brexit viewers will conclude it's turned out more of a disaster than their worst fears.

    'Both sides lied their socks off' didn't help either. God help us! If that doesn't encourage SKS to stop bifucating on the fence nothing will

    A huge mess is being kind ! It’s still hard though for some people to accept reality . Can someone name a single thing in the country which has improved because of Brexit?
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Talking of shite American things, the Gazette has just commissioned me to do a travel article on..... wait for it.... Cincinnati. Yes, the Newent of USA, the Wick of the Midwest, the Walsall of Jesus Christ Why There?


    Can anyone cheer me up? Is there any remotely positive thing about Cincinnati that I can look forward to?

    THIRD on its list of major attractions is "The American Sign Museum"

    HELP


    . .
    There used to be a leather museum in Walsall, and a Jerome K Jerome one too. And the Walsall illuminations in the autumn, a bit like the Blackpool ones, only a lot smaller, and with no sea. I worked there for a bit. The leather museum was more horse than gimp orientated.
    Jerome K Jerome was actually a genius, and came from Walsall. Maybe the only genius to do so.

    His charm is that he never quite realised that his genius was a comic one, and tried for ages to be a proper novelist. These efforts are so terrible they are worse than unreadable. Try (or rather don't try) Paul Kelver or All Roads Lead to Calvary - which is even worse than the title sounds.

    But Three Men in a Boat and the underrated Diary of a Pilgrimage are immortal.

    (Curiously people tend not to remember that in TMIAB they find the dead body of a suicide. JKJ is a comic genius who is slightly odd. Maybe Walsall does that to people.)

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,352
    Quiet! All of you!

    The 2nd Eurovision semi-final is just about to start on BBC1!
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514
    edited May 2023
    Q: Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,352

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    Did you hear about the guy from Hull who gave up smoking?

    He also gave up smirking!
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561
    nico679 said:

    Roger said:

    Ian Martin on Ch4 News now virtually admitting that Brexit -which he supported -has turned out 'a huge mess'. Considering he was the guest speaking up for Brexit viewers will conclude it's turned out more of a disaster than their worst fears.

    'Both sides lied their socks off' didn't help either. God help us! If that doesn't encourage SKS to stop bifucating on the fence nothing will

    A huge mess is being kind ! It’s still hard though for some people to accept reality . Can someone name a single thing in the country which has improved because of Brexit?
    Not much surprise. Most people in 2016 wanted neither answer on the ballot but a different sort of EU. The political failure to deliver an EU acceptable to the great majority of UK people (like NATO is) is a massive political fail pre-2016 for decades.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314
    edited May 2023

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    What cheese would you use to disguise a horse?

    Marscapone.

    Why would you disguise a horse?

    To hide a dodgy fetalock.

    Edit - the irony is TSE first posted that pun, because he didn't get it!
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    PhilPhil Posts: 1,943
    The Met absolutely covering themselves with glory over the coronation here: https://twitter.com/SteveRobson04/status/1656644951978004483
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314
    Phil said:

    The Met absolutely covering themselves with glory over the coronation here: https://twitter.com/SteveRobson04/status/1656644951978004483

    Isn't that the point of a coronation?
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    kamskikamski Posts: 4,260

    Andy_JS said:

    Has there ever been a case of a country changing their voting system from FPTP to another system and then changing back to FPTP? Or alternatively changing from a non-FPTP system to FPTP?

    In Canada, Province of British Columbia, as I recall for couple of provincial general elections late 1940s - early 1950s.
    France? Also Italy now has 37% FPTP.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514
    ydoethur said:

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    What cheese would you use to disguise a horse?

    Marscapone.

    Why would you disguise a horse?

    To hide a dodgy fetalock.

    Edit - the irony is TSE first posted that pun, because he didn't get it!
    My head was frazelled that day.

    I had just got fired from my job at the keyboard factory.

    I wasn't putting in enough shifts.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314

    ydoethur said:

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    What cheese would you use to disguise a horse?

    Marscapone.

    Why would you disguise a horse?

    To hide a dodgy fetalock.

    Edit - the irony is TSE first posted that pun, because he didn't get it!
    My head was frazelled that day.

    I had just got fired from my job at the keyboard factory.

    I wasn't putting in enough shifts.
    So your dismissal was due to gain of function?
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,014

    FF43 said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    algarkirk said:

    kinabalu said:

    Sean_F said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    Depressing write up on BBC about Trump's town hall event. Basically that he will never stop saying 2020 was rigged, will pardon 6 Jan rioters, will definitely shift policy on Ukraine (though exactly how is unclear, but ending it in 24 hours as he suggests could only occur if he stopped ongoing support), and that the audience was eating out of the palm of his hand.

    If they get the chance the party will pick him again and the representatives will fall in line.

    Yes, not a good read. It's hard to see him winning the presidency back, with things as they are now, but it'd be better if he isn't on the ballot as the GOP candidate. If he gets the Nom he has to have a non-trivial chance just because of 'events', eg a Biden incident, a bank crash, something in Russia/Ukraine etc.
    The nomination is his to lose. Could he become president then? Of course, especially if the economic backdrop worsens, as seems likely.
    Very scary on so many levels. Good for all the worst people (eg the MAGA goons and Putin) and bad for everyone else. If it were to happen my Big Short would turn into the worst single betting loss I've ever had and I can honestly hand-on-heart say I don't even think about that aspect. That's how bleak a prospect it is.
    I'd give Trump about a 40% chance of winning, if he runs against Biden. That is far too close for comfort.
    Share the sentiment but I rate it more a 25%.
    On this subject, there is an interesting feature about PB. SFAICS there are several people/positions that have Zero support with PBers. These include: Trump, Xi, Putin, Assad, all sides in Sudan, North Korea, the Burmese government and so on.

    Of these one leaps out as different. Trump has tens of millions of loyal supporters in a free market liberal democracy with a free press.

    But not a word of support on PB (me included) ever, while Trump is 5/2 with Hills to be the next POTUS.

    is this because:
    (a) the PB Overton window is actually quite small
    (b) because nearly half the USA really are as authoritarian fascistlike as Putin and co and Trump's position resembles 1930s Germany
    (c) something else. (What?)
    An American PB equivalent might show more Trump support, I guess. There are things about the country we struggle to understand. Although tbh I think you're being a touch generous (to us) by saying 'not a word of support' for him on here ever. I recall a fair amount in the past, and ok there's very little now but still some. Plus there will be PBers who secretly have a soft spot and keep shtum to avoid a tongue lashing.
    I have a soft spot for someone who is democratically elected by any given electorate so put me in the democracy not as bad as all the other systems column.
    Yep. An elected President Trump is better than an unelected President Trump. However there's a risk the first leads to the second so it's best to play safe and have neither imo.
    I really don't see that. Not that as we have seen we have been at the end of any kind of history but you are saying that the US is possibly headed towards autarchy I just don't believe.

    Of course loathe the man but don't let that colour your usually razor-sharp assessment of the state of politics today.
    Well he had to be dragged out last time, tried to rig the election, pulling rank to intimidate officials into conjuring up votes for him, tried to get his VP to quash the certification and allow States to override with slates for him to swing it and keep him in power. This is all on the record. It happened. It didn't work but he tried alright.

    So, ok, a repeat and this time successful might be far from a given - but it's a definite possibility given another 4 years in control of the GOP and the Federal government, his foaming gullible base, the levers he could pull, stack the courts, stack the legislatures, placemen all over, the manipulations etc. Object: Trump/MAGA forever.

    If you don't see at least a risk worth worrying about I'll have to put it down to you not following American politics that closely. Which I know you don't and it's fair enough. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
    Trump/MAGA forever. He couldn't even get himself together to overturn the last election I think forever is a stretch.

    But as you are such a close follower of US politics I will take heed and upgrade the probability of Trump/MAGA forever from 0.000001% to 0.000002%.

    Thank you for your insight. I will bet accordingly.
    No need to be quite so literal. 'Trump/MAGA forever' means achieving corruption on a scale that makes him/them very hard to dislodge by the conventional means of a free & fair election.

    The risk of this is far higher than you have it there. You need to move the decimal point quite a way to the right. Course if he had managed it last time we wouldn't need to assess the risk, would we? It'd be 100%.
    "...if he had managed..."

    But he didn't and my point is I believe the system in the US is robust enough to see off any attempt to overthrow the government by force.

    We have already discussed Jan 6th and agreed, those sane posters on PB have agreed, that is, that it was far from a coup attempt. If that's what you mean. Don't put yourself on the side of the insane posters by saying that Jan 6th was a coup.
    Is there a list of which posters are sane or insane?
    Here's Topping's 'sane' list:

    1. Topping









    A lot of uncertainty here

    solid (or dull!)
    Big_G_NorthWales
    Sean_F
    eek
    algakirk
    OldKingCole
    williamglenn
    Nigelb
    OnlyLivingBoy

    possibly sane
    TOPPING
    kinabalu
    Andy_JS
    kle
    JosiasJessop
    Foxy
    Richard_Tyndall
    rcs1000

    definitely a bit unhinged
    Nigel_Foremain
    Sunil_Prasannan
    BlancheLivermore
    viewcode
    bigjohnowls

    completely barking
    MoonRabbit
    Dura_Ace
    CarlottaVance
    Casino_Royale
    HYUFD
    Dialup
    It's possible to be boring and unhinged at the same time.
    First on list as solid (or dull) with my fellow oldy @OldKingCole

    I am sure we will both take that

    FF43 said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    algarkirk said:

    kinabalu said:

    Sean_F said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    Depressing write up on BBC about Trump's town hall event. Basically that he will never stop saying 2020 was rigged, will pardon 6 Jan rioters, will definitely shift policy on Ukraine (though exactly how is unclear, but ending it in 24 hours as he suggests could only occur if he stopped ongoing support), and that the audience was eating out of the palm of his hand.

    If they get the chance the party will pick him again and the representatives will fall in line.

    Yes, not a good read. It's hard to see him winning the presidency back, with things as they are now, but it'd be better if he isn't on the ballot as the GOP candidate. If he gets the Nom he has to have a non-trivial chance just because of 'events', eg a Biden incident, a bank crash, something in Russia/Ukraine etc.
    The nomination is his to lose. Could he become president then? Of course, especially if the economic backdrop worsens, as seems likely.
    Very scary on so many levels. Good for all the worst people (eg the MAGA goons and Putin) and bad for everyone else. If it were to happen my Big Short would turn into the worst single betting loss I've ever had and I can honestly hand-on-heart say I don't even think about that aspect. That's how bleak a prospect it is.
    I'd give Trump about a 40% chance of winning, if he runs against Biden. That is far too close for comfort.
    Share the sentiment but I rate it more a 25%.
    On this subject, there is an interesting feature about PB. SFAICS there are several people/positions that have Zero support with PBers. These include: Trump, Xi, Putin, Assad, all sides in Sudan, North Korea, the Burmese government and so on.

    Of these one leaps out as different. Trump has tens of millions of loyal supporters in a free market liberal democracy with a free press.

    But not a word of support on PB (me included) ever, while Trump is 5/2 with Hills to be the next POTUS.

    is this because:
    (a) the PB Overton window is actually quite small
    (b) because nearly half the USA really are as authoritarian fascistlike as Putin and co and Trump's position resembles 1930s Germany
    (c) something else. (What?)
    An American PB equivalent might show more Trump support, I guess. There are things about the country we struggle to understand. Although tbh I think you're being a touch generous (to us) by saying 'not a word of support' for him on here ever. I recall a fair amount in the past, and ok there's very little now but still some. Plus there will be PBers who secretly have a soft spot and keep shtum to avoid a tongue lashing.
    I have a soft spot for someone who is democratically elected by any given electorate so put me in the democracy not as bad as all the other systems column.
    Yep. An elected President Trump is better than an unelected President Trump. However there's a risk the first leads to the second so it's best to play safe and have neither imo.
    I really don't see that. Not that as we have seen we have been at the end of any kind of history but you are saying that the US is possibly headed towards autarchy I just don't believe.

    Of course loathe the man but don't let that colour your usually razor-sharp assessment of the state of politics today.
    Well he had to be dragged out last time, tried to rig the election, pulling rank to intimidate officials into conjuring up votes for him, tried to get his VP to quash the certification and allow States to override with slates for him to swing it and keep him in power. This is all on the record. It happened. It didn't work but he tried alright.

    So, ok, a repeat and this time successful might be far from a given - but it's a definite possibility given another 4 years in control of the GOP and the Federal government, his foaming gullible base, the levers he could pull, stack the courts, stack the legislatures, placemen all over, the manipulations etc. Object: Trump/MAGA forever.

    If you don't see at least a risk worth worrying about I'll have to put it down to you not following American politics that closely. Which I know you don't and it's fair enough. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
    Trump/MAGA forever. He couldn't even get himself together to overturn the last election I think forever is a stretch.

    But as you are such a close follower of US politics I will take heed and upgrade the probability of Trump/MAGA forever from 0.000001% to 0.000002%.

    Thank you for your insight. I will bet accordingly.
    No need to be quite so literal. 'Trump/MAGA forever' means achieving corruption on a scale that makes him/them very hard to dislodge by the conventional means of a free & fair election.

    The risk of this is far higher than you have it there. You need to move the decimal point quite a way to the right. Course if he had managed it last time we wouldn't need to assess the risk, would we? It'd be 100%.
    "...if he had managed..."

    But he didn't and my point is I believe the system in the US is robust enough to see off any attempt to overthrow the government by force.

    We have already discussed Jan 6th and agreed, those sane posters on PB have agreed, that is, that it was far from a coup attempt. If that's what you mean. Don't put yourself on the side of the insane posters by saying that Jan 6th was a coup.
    Is there a list of which posters are sane or insane?
    Here's Topping's 'sane' list:

    1. Topping









    A lot of uncertainty here

    solid (or dull!)
    Big_G_NorthWales
    Sean_F
    eek
    algakirk
    OldKingCole
    williamglenn
    Nigelb
    OnlyLivingBoy

    possibly sane
    TOPPING
    kinabalu
    Andy_JS
    kle
    JosiasJessop
    Foxy
    Richard_Tyndall
    rcs1000

    definitely a bit unhinged
    Nigel_Foremain
    Sunil_Prasannan
    BlancheLivermore
    viewcode
    bigjohnowls

    completely barking
    MoonRabbit
    Dura_Ace
    CarlottaVance
    Casino_Royale
    HYUFD
    Dialup
    It's possible to be boring and unhinged at the same time.
    First on list as solid (or dull) with my fellow oldy @OldKingCole

    I am sure we will both take that
    I’ve had worse insults!
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265

    ydoethur said:

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    What cheese would you use to disguise a horse?

    Marscapone.

    Why would you disguise a horse?

    To hide a dodgy fetalock.

    Edit - the irony is TSE first posted that pun, because he didn't get it!
    My head was frazelled that day.

    I had just got fired from my job at the keyboard factory.

    I wasn't putting in enough shifts.
    Frazelled?

    Are you showing off your foreign language skills again?
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,347
    Looks like the Russians are in full-scale panic-driven meltdown all over telegram.

    https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1656731158455910419

    "OSINTtechnical
    @Osinttechnical
    Watching Russian Telegram channels go into full rumor driven panic mode has been incredibly amusing

    OSINTtechnical
    @Osinttechnical
    Russian forces lose a few km2 of territory around Bakhmut and random Russian milbloggers start spreading rumors that Ukrainian mechanized units are starting a thunder run towards Moscow."
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,421
    @PBModerator can you ban the deputy editor (possibly yourself) for these awful puns please?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514
    Q: How do Mexicans stay warm when their heating breaks down?

    A: They use chicken fajitas.
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561
    Phil said:

    The Met absolutely covering themselves with glory over the coronation here: https://twitter.com/SteveRobson04/status/1656644951978004483

    Sometimes you could not make it up. Chilling.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514

    ydoethur said:

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    What cheese would you use to disguise a horse?

    Marscapone.

    Why would you disguise a horse?

    To hide a dodgy fetalock.

    Edit - the irony is TSE first posted that pun, because he didn't get it!
    My head was frazelled that day.

    I had just got fired from my job at the keyboard factory.

    I wasn't putting in enough shifts.
    Frazelled?

    Are you showing off your foreign language skills again?
    I'm tired, it has been a long day.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,723
    algarkirk said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Talking of shite American things, the Gazette has just commissioned me to do a travel article on..... wait for it.... Cincinnati. Yes, the Newent of USA, the Wick of the Midwest, the Walsall of Jesus Christ Why There?


    Can anyone cheer me up? Is there any remotely positive thing about Cincinnati that I can look forward to?

    THIRD on its list of major attractions is "The American Sign Museum"

    HELP


    . .
    There used to be a leather museum in Walsall, and a Jerome K Jerome one too. And the Walsall illuminations in the autumn, a bit like the Blackpool ones, only a lot smaller, and with no sea. I worked there for a bit. The leather museum was more horse than gimp orientated.
    Jerome K Jerome was actually a genius, and came from Walsall. Maybe the only genius to do so.

    His charm is that he never quite realised that his genius was a comic one, and tried for ages to be a proper novelist. These efforts are so terrible they are worse than unreadable. Try (or rather don't try) Paul Kelver or All Roads Lead to Calvary - which is even worse than the title sounds.

    But Three Men in a Boat and the underrated Diary of a Pilgrimage are immortal.

    (Curiously people tend not to remember that in TMIAB they find the dead body of a suicide. JKJ is a comic genius who is slightly odd. Maybe Walsall does that to people.)

    I think "Idle Thoughts of an Idle Fellow" very good too. I am quite a fan.
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265

    ydoethur said:

    Q:Did you hear about the French chef who killed himself?

    A: He lost his huile d'olive.

    What cheese would you use to disguise a horse?

    Marscapone.

    Why would you disguise a horse?

    To hide a dodgy fetalock.

    Edit - the irony is TSE first posted that pun, because he didn't get it!
    My head was frazelled that day.

    I had just got fired from my job at the keyboard factory.

    I wasn't putting in enough shifts.
    Frazelled?

    Are you showing off your foreign language skills again?
    And if you try to blame it on fat finger syndrome again I’ll have to assume you make your King look like he has elegant lady fingers
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514
    I never met an audio engineer I didn't like.

    They're sound guys.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,421

    I never met an audio engineer I didn't like.

    They're sound guys.

    I'm not on the same wavelength.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,224

    Q: How do Mexicans stay warm when their heating breaks down?

    A: They use chicken fajitas.

    How do the Welsh eat their cheese ?

    Caerphilly.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,224
    Why don’t the French have two or more eggs for breakfast

    Because one egg is an Oeuf.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,352

    I never met an audio engineer I didn't like.

    They're sound guys.

    I walked from Stratford to Canning Town today, but I had to give myself some Lea way.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,473
    nico679 said:

    Roger said:

    Ian Martin on Ch4 News now virtually admitting that Brexit -which he supported -has turned out 'a huge mess'. Considering he was the guest speaking up for Brexit viewers will conclude it's turned out more of a disaster than their worst fears.

    'Both sides lied their socks off' didn't help either. God help us! If that doesn't encourage SKS to stop bifucating on the fence nothing will

    A huge mess is being kind ! It’s still hard though for some people to accept reality . Can someone name a single thing in the country which has improved because of Brexit?
    Well, vaccines, for one.
    Honestly, when Remainers claim that there are *no* upsides to Brexit they just come across as deranged.
    For me, the benefits of Brexit still comfortably outweigh the costs. But I wouldn't claim that there are no costs. Amd it would be equally mad to claim there are no benefits.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314
    Taz said:

    Q: How do Mexicans stay warm when their heating breaks down?

    A: They use chicken fajitas.

    How do the Welsh eat their cheese ?

    Caerphilly.
    Why do hats from North Wales not protect your head?

    Because they are only Arfon.
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561
    Foxy said:

    algarkirk said:

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Talking of shite American things, the Gazette has just commissioned me to do a travel article on..... wait for it.... Cincinnati. Yes, the Newent of USA, the Wick of the Midwest, the Walsall of Jesus Christ Why There?


    Can anyone cheer me up? Is there any remotely positive thing about Cincinnati that I can look forward to?

    THIRD on its list of major attractions is "The American Sign Museum"

    HELP


    . .
    There used to be a leather museum in Walsall, and a Jerome K Jerome one too. And the Walsall illuminations in the autumn, a bit like the Blackpool ones, only a lot smaller, and with no sea. I worked there for a bit. The leather museum was more horse than gimp orientated.
    Jerome K Jerome was actually a genius, and came from Walsall. Maybe the only genius to do so.

    His charm is that he never quite realised that his genius was a comic one, and tried for ages to be a proper novelist. These efforts are so terrible they are worse than unreadable. Try (or rather don't try) Paul Kelver or All Roads Lead to Calvary - which is even worse than the title sounds.

    But Three Men in a Boat and the underrated Diary of a Pilgrimage are immortal.

    (Curiously people tend not to remember that in TMIAB they find the dead body of a suicide. JKJ is a comic genius who is slightly odd. Maybe Walsall does that to people.)

    I think "Idle Thoughts of an Idle Fellow" very good too. I am quite a fan.
    Yes. Quite a bit of the non-novel stuff is good. But like Wodehouse, outside his comic register his genius just falls down.

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,935
    This is a really weak Eurovision semi so far
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    TOPPING said:

    kinabalu said:

    algarkirk said:

    kinabalu said:

    Sean_F said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    Depressing write up on BBC about Trump's town hall event. Basically that he will never stop saying 2020 was rigged, will pardon 6 Jan rioters, will definitely shift policy on Ukraine (though exactly how is unclear, but ending it in 24 hours as he suggests could only occur if he stopped ongoing support), and that the audience was eating out of the palm of his hand.

    If they get the chance the party will pick him again and the representatives will fall in line.

    Yes, not a good read. It's hard to see him winning the presidency back, with things as they are now, but it'd be better if he isn't on the ballot as the GOP candidate. If he gets the Nom he has to have a non-trivial chance just because of 'events', eg a Biden incident, a bank crash, something in Russia/Ukraine etc.
    The nomination is his to lose. Could he become president then? Of course, especially if the economic backdrop worsens, as seems likely.
    Very scary on so many levels. Good for all the worst people (eg the MAGA goons and Putin) and bad for everyone else. If it were to happen my Big Short would turn into the worst single betting loss I've ever had and I can honestly hand-on-heart say I don't even think about that aspect. That's how bleak a prospect it is.
    I'd give Trump about a 40% chance of winning, if he runs against Biden. That is far too close for comfort.
    Share the sentiment but I rate it more a 25%.
    On this subject, there is an interesting feature about PB. SFAICS there are several people/positions that have Zero support with PBers. These include: Trump, Xi, Putin, Assad, all sides in Sudan, North Korea, the Burmese government and so on.

    Of these one leaps out as different. Trump has tens of millions of loyal supporters in a free market liberal democracy with a free press.

    But not a word of support on PB (me included) ever, while Trump is 5/2 with Hills to be the next POTUS.

    is this because:
    (a) the PB Overton window is actually quite small
    (b) because nearly half the USA really are as authoritarian fascistlike as Putin and co and Trump's position resembles 1930s Germany
    (c) something else. (What?)
    An American PB equivalent might show more Trump support, I guess. There are things about the country we struggle to understand. Although tbh I think you're being a touch generous (to us) by saying 'not a word of support' for him on here ever. I recall a fair amount in the past, and ok there's very little now but still some. Plus there will be PBers who secretly have a soft spot and keep shtum to avoid a tongue lashing.
    I have a soft spot for someone who is democratically elected by any given electorate so put me in the democracy not as bad as all the other systems column.
    Yep. An elected President Trump is better than an unelected President Trump. However there's a risk the first leads to the second so it's best to play safe and have neither imo.
    I really don't see that. Not that as we have seen we have been at the end of any kind of history but you are saying that the US is possibly headed towards autarchy I just don't believe.

    Of course loathe the man but don't let that colour your usually razor-sharp assessment of the state of politics today.
    Well he had to be dragged out last time, tried to rig the election, pulling rank to intimidate officials into conjuring up votes for him, tried to get his VP to quash the certification and allow States to override with slates for him to swing it and keep him in power. This is all on the record. It happened. It didn't work but he tried alright.

    So, ok, a repeat and this time successful might be far from a given - but it's a definite possibility given another 4 years in control of the GOP and the Federal government, his foaming gullible base, the levers he could pull, stack the courts, stack the legislatures, placemen all over, the manipulations etc. Object: Trump/MAGA forever.

    If you don't see at least a risk worth worrying about I'll have to put it down to you not following American politics that closely. Which I know you don't and it's fair enough. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
    Trump/MAGA forever. He couldn't even get himself together to overturn the last election I think forever is a stretch.

    But as you are such a close follower of US politics I will take heed and upgrade the probability of Trump/MAGA forever from 0.000001% to 0.000002%.

    Thank you for your insight. I will bet accordingly.
    No need to be quite so literal. 'Trump/MAGA forever' means achieving corruption on a scale that makes him/them very hard to dislodge by the conventional means of a free & fair election.

    The risk of this is far higher than you have it there. You need to move the decimal point quite a way to the right. Course if he had managed it last time we wouldn't need to assess the risk, would we? It'd be 100%.
    "...if he had managed..."

    But he didn't and my point is I believe the system in the US is robust enough to see off any attempt to overthrow the government by force.

    We have already discussed Jan 6th and agreed, those sane posters on PB have agreed, that is, that it was far from a coup attempt. If that's what you mean. Don't put yourself on the side of the insane posters by saying that Jan 6th was a coup.
    Is there a list of which posters are sane or insane?
    Here's Topping's 'sane' list:

    1. Topping









    A lot of uncertainty here

    solid (or dull!)
    Big_G_NorthWales
    Sean_F
    eek
    algakirk
    OldKingCole
    williamglenn
    Nigelb
    OnlyLivingBoy

    possibly sane
    TOPPING
    kinabalu
    Andy_JS
    kle
    JosiasJessop
    Foxy
    Richard_Tyndall
    rcs1000

    definitely a bit unhinged
    Nigel_Foremain
    Sunil_Prasannan
    BlancheLivermore
    viewcode
    bigjohnowls

    completely barking
    MoonRabbit
    Dura_Ace
    CarlottaVance
    Casino_Royale
    HYUFD
    Dialup
    Could be worse could be in a list of SKS fans with TSE

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514
    Time for Drakeford to sort this out.

    The police watchdog has launched an independent investigation after a police officer in Wales was filmed appearing to punch a man repeatedly in the head before arresting him.

    Footage of the incident is circulating on social media and has caused considerable “public concern”, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) said.

    The incident occurred on Wednesday during the arrest of a 34-year-old man from the Pensyflog area of Porthmadog, north Wales, after officers were called to an address in relation to a domestic incident.

    Bystanders filmed the interaction and video footage shows the suspect being pinned face down on the ground by a male and a female police officer.

    The male officer then puts his arm around the man’s neck in a headlock and appears to punch him nine times in the side of the head.

    The suspect can be seen struggling and groaning in pain as the female officer puts him in handcuffs.

    In a second video clip, the man arrested appears to have a bloodied and swollen face as he is put in a police van. The video has been viewed more than 100,000 times on social media.

    The IOPC said inquiries were under way to “establish whether the level of force used during the arrest was reasonable and proportionate in the circumstances”.

    After being tagged in the post, Gareth Davies, the Conservative Senedd member for the Vale of Clwyd, tweeted to the North Wales police chief constable, Amanda Blakeman, and the home secretary, Suella Braverman: “This is police brutality. What are you doing? Surely we’re better than this?”


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/11/police-officer-filmed-appearing-to-punch-man-repeatedly-in-head-during-arrest-in-wales?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1683831725
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,059

    I never met an audio engineer I didn't like.

    They're sound guys.

    Only one or two. One. Two.
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,953
    nico679 said:

    Roger said:

    Ian Martin on Ch4 News now virtually admitting that Brexit -which he supported -has turned out 'a huge mess'. Considering he was the guest speaking up for Brexit viewers will conclude it's turned out more of a disaster than their worst fears.

    'Both sides lied their socks off' didn't help either. God help us! If that doesn't encourage SKS to stop bifucating on the fence nothing will

    A huge mess is being kind ! It’s still hard though for some people to accept reality . Can someone name a single thing in the country which has improved because of Brexit?
    We get to see a lot more of JRM and IDS on the telly?

    ...

    Oh, hang on...
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,953
    Roger said:

    Ian Martin on Ch4 News now virtually admitting that Brexit -which he supported -has turned out 'a huge mess'. Considering he was the guest speaking up for Brexit viewers will conclude it's turned out more of a disaster than their worst fears.

    'Both sides lied their socks off' didn't help either. God help us! If that doesn't encourage SKS to stop bifucating on the fence nothing will

    'A huge mess' is how I describe my bedroom drawers. I'm not sure it quite covers post-Brexit Britain.
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    At risk of being flippant, who on earth could be considered popular in the current shadow cabinet?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,421
    Pulpstar said:

    This is a really weak Eurovision semi so far

    You won't have that problem on Saturday night.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    ydoethur said:

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    At risk of being flippant, who on earth could be considered popular in the current shadow cabinet?
    Wes Streeting
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    ydoethur said:

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    At risk of being flippant, who on earth could be considered popular in the current shadow cabinet?
    Possibly popular in the parliamentary party?
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    StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 7,066
    Leon said:

    Talking of shite American things, the Gazette has just commissioned me to do a travel article on..... wait for it.... Cincinnati. Yes, the Newent of USA, the Wick of the Midwest, the Walsall of Jesus Christ Why There?


    Can anyone cheer me up? Is there any remotely positive thing about Cincinnati that I can look forward to?

    THIRD on its list of major attractions is "The American Sign Museum"

    HELP

    I once borrowed $20 from my then boss and still owe him the money?
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314

    ydoethur said:

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    At risk of being flippant, who on earth could be considered popular in the current shadow cabinet?
    Wes Streeting
    I think we can be fairly sure it isn't him.
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    eekeek Posts: 25,005

    @PBModerator can you ban the deputy editor (possibly yourself) for these awful puns please?

    He's just stealing items from the other PB Newsletter...
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    Know who it is or know him personally?
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    So SKS hasn’t a clue?
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,816

    Time for Drakeford to sort this out.

    The police watchdog has launched an independent investigation after a police officer in Wales was filmed appearing to punch a man repeatedly in the head before arresting him.

    Footage of the incident is circulating on social media and has caused considerable “public concern”, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) said.

    The incident occurred on Wednesday during the arrest of a 34-year-old man from the Pensyflog area of Porthmadog, north Wales, after officers were called to an address in relation to a domestic incident.

    Bystanders filmed the interaction and video footage shows the suspect being pinned face down on the ground by a male and a female police officer.

    The male officer then puts his arm around the man’s neck in a headlock and appears to punch him nine times in the side of the head.

    The suspect can be seen struggling and groaning in pain as the female officer puts him in handcuffs.

    In a second video clip, the man arrested appears to have a bloodied and swollen face as he is put in a police van. The video has been viewed more than 100,000 times on social media.

    The IOPC said inquiries were under way to “establish whether the level of force used during the arrest was reasonable and proportionate in the circumstances”.

    After being tagged in the post, Gareth Davies, the Conservative Senedd member for the Vale of Clwyd, tweeted to the North Wales police chief constable, Amanda Blakeman, and the home secretary, Suella Braverman: “This is police brutality. What are you doing? Surely we’re better than this?”


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/11/police-officer-filmed-appearing-to-punch-man-repeatedly-in-head-during-arrest-in-wales?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1683831725

    Is it Ms Braverman or Mr Drakeford who is ultimately responsible? Surely nto both? or has the Tory MS rather lapsed into wishful thinking?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    So SKS hasn’t a clue?

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    So SKS hasn’t a clue?
    Most on the left and SKS
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,891

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    Did he Pincher?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514
    eek said:

    @PBModerator can you ban the deputy editor (possibly yourself) for these awful puns please?

    He's just stealing items from the other PB Newsletter...
    I'll have you know I've been a contributor to Popbitch for years.

    Some of those jokes are mine!

    You can tell by their awesomeness and subtlety.
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    DialupDialup Posts: 561
    This will surely be the end of SKS. Just like Beergate was.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,091
    ydoethur said:

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    At risk of being flippant, who on earth could be considered popular in the current shadow cabinet?
    There aren't that many who most people have heard of. These are the only Labour politicians with over 50% name recognition:

    1Tony Blair 96%
    2 Gordon Brown 95%
    3 Keir Starmer 94%
    4 Jeremy Corbyn 94%
    5 Sadiq Khan 90%
    6 Ed Miliband 89%
    7 David Miliband 85%
    8 Ed Balls 85%
    9 John Prescott 84%
    10 Ken Livingstone 83%
    11 Diane Abbott 81%
    12 David Blunkett 78%
    13 Alistair Darling 75%
    14 Angela Rayner 74%
    15 Harriet Harman 72%
    16 Peter Mandelson 70%
    17 Jack Straw 70%
    18 Neil Kinnock 68%
    19 Andy Burnham 67%
    20 Yvette Cooper 63%
    21 Margaret Beckett 61%
    22 David Lammy 56%
    23 Dennis Skinner 53%
    24 Alan Johnson 52%
    25 Hilary Benn 52%

    https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/fame/labour-politicians/all
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,314

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    So SKS hasn’t a clue?

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    So SKS hasn’t a clue?
    Most on the left and SKS
    So you're saying the left of the Labour Party has been covering up a sexual assault allegation?

    I'm not sure you've thought this through.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    Dialup said:

    This will surely be the end of SKS. Just like Beergate was.

    Establishment stooges unite
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    Dialup said:

    This will surely be the end of SKS. Just like Beergate was.

    Do you have anything interesting to say on the substantive issue behind this potential scandal?
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,891

    Q: How do Mexicans stay warm when their heating breaks down?

    A: They use chicken fajitas.

    Welsh girl- Doctor I'm pregnant
    Doctor-Have you had a check-up?
    Welsh girl-No. It was a lad from Abergavenny
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,224

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    I think most on the left know the alleged Perp
    So SKS hasn’t a clue?
    Boom !!
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561
    edited May 2023
    ohnotnow said:

    Roger said:

    Ian Martin on Ch4 News now virtually admitting that Brexit -which he supported -has turned out 'a huge mess'. Considering he was the guest speaking up for Brexit viewers will conclude it's turned out more of a disaster than their worst fears.

    'Both sides lied their socks off' didn't help either. God help us! If that doesn't encourage SKS to stop bifucating on the fence nothing will

    'A huge mess' is how I describe my bedroom drawers. I'm not sure it quite covers post-Brexit Britain.
    Same with me. Brexit pales into insignificance by comparison with my domestic squalor. Maybe 'A little local difficulty' covers it. One needs to keep a sense of proportion. Like the entirely sane, likeable and balanced Alastair Campbell who did the humorous warmup.

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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,047
    kle4 said:

    Have to admit I did chuckle at a few of these, you'd almost believe it was a serious piece.

    Meet the new swing voters - Demographics that will make a difference
    Boomer Brenda. Brenda was born in 1953 and has spent the last two decades telling people about life in World War Two. She lives in the village of Plumley-on-Len, which has been in a Conservative constituency for the last 897 years. Still, she is outraged with Rishi Sunak for not responding to her letters about her opposition to the cancer research laboratory which is being built two kilometres from her home and would force dog walkers to take a very slightly different route. She doesn’t own a dog.

    https://thecritic.co.uk/meet-the-new-swing-voters/

    This is my guy.

    'Substack Simon. Simon recently lost his job at the Times, or the Observer, or the Telegraph. He has spent decades basking in the glow of his smug centrism but now finds himself on the outside looking in. He thinks the Conservatives are “Toffs” and populists but he can’t quite forgive Labour for Corbyn. He might vote Lib Dem if they make the right noises about Ukraine and “the trans thing” but he really wants Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart to lead a march on Westminster.'
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,334
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    I’m rather surprised that my post about it earlier today garnered just one response and no discussion
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,224

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Is it a Fleshlight ?
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561

    ydoethur said:

    So the female Labour MP who says she was sexually assaulted by a Shadow Cabinet member won’t take action because he’s “too popular”

    If Sir Keir knows who it was, could this be his own Pincher moment?

    At risk of being flippant, who on earth could be considered popular in the current shadow cabinet?
    There aren't that many who most people have heard of. These are the only Labour politicians with over 50% name recognition:

    1Tony Blair 96%
    2 Gordon Brown 95%
    3 Keir Starmer 94%
    4 Jeremy Corbyn 94%
    5 Sadiq Khan 90%
    6 Ed Miliband 89%
    7 David Miliband 85%
    8 Ed Balls 85%
    9 John Prescott 84%
    10 Ken Livingstone 83%
    11 Diane Abbott 81%
    12 David Blunkett 78%
    13 Alistair Darling 75%
    14 Angela Rayner 74%
    15 Harriet Harman 72%
    16 Peter Mandelson 70%
    17 Jack Straw 70%
    18 Neil Kinnock 68%
    19 Andy Burnham 67%
    20 Yvette Cooper 63%
    21 Margaret Beckett 61%
    22 David Lammy 56%
    23 Dennis Skinner 53%
    24 Alan Johnson 52%
    25 Hilary Benn 52%

    https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/fame/labour-politicians/all
    Interesting. No-one under 90 in that list. It's all golden oldies. Maybe the new lot really are as dull as they seem. Not even Wes Streeting?? Reeves??

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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    Taz said:

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Is it a Fleshlight ?
    Damn you for making me google that!

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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    edited May 2023
    The game's afoot?

    Numerous reports in Russian channels about Ukrainian forces having begun a larger offensive in several directions. This follows reports of Wagner struggling in Bakhmut in the recent days. Current reports are very conflicting, some mention Ukrainians moving towards Russian border.…
    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1656724729036775424

    Maybe hoping the Russians are distracted watching Eurovision.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,334

    I’m rather surprised that my post about it earlier today garnered just one response and no discussion
    This is from the BBC

    BBC News - Met Police will not investigate sexual assault claim against Labour shadow minister
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65563918
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,059

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?

    looks like a detachable pan handle
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,421
    kle4 said:

    Have to admit I did chuckle at a few of these, you'd almost believe it was a serious piece.

    Meet the new swing voters - Demographics that will make a difference
    Boomer Brenda. Brenda was born in 1953 and has spent the last two decades telling people about life in World War Two. She lives in the village of Plumley-on-Len, which has been in a Conservative constituency for the last 897 years. Still, she is outraged with Rishi Sunak for not responding to her letters about her opposition to the cancer research laboratory which is being built two kilometres from her home and would force dog walkers to take a very slightly different route. She doesn’t own a dog.

    https://thecritic.co.uk/meet-the-new-swing-voters/

    Inaccurate.

    If it was she'd quote it in good solid British miles, not those ugly napoleonic things.
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    BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,265
    Scott_xP said:

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?

    looks like a detachable pan handle
    I think you’re right! It fits perfectly on the side of the handleless pan I’m currently cooking lardons in. Thanks, you might have saved me from burning my fingers..
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,421

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Eurodildo
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,561

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Electric melon ball scoop?
    Device for upskirting? (This is now illegal)
    A dropped garden pea detector?
    Is it for blowing cool air on over heated potatoes?
    A suction driven mouse trap?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    edited May 2023
    He will deal with it in the same manner he has dealt with everything since he promised to unite both wings of the Party

    I n a factional manner ie he will protect the right wing perp
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,352
    Austrian girls singing about Edgar Allen Poe :lol:

    Oh and they look OK :)
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,514

    NEW THREAD

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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,816

    kle4 said:

    Have to admit I did chuckle at a few of these, you'd almost believe it was a serious piece.

    Meet the new swing voters - Demographics that will make a difference
    Boomer Brenda. Brenda was born in 1953 and has spent the last two decades telling people about life in World War Two. She lives in the village of Plumley-on-Len, which has been in a Conservative constituency for the last 897 years. Still, she is outraged with Rishi Sunak for not responding to her letters about her opposition to the cancer research laboratory which is being built two kilometres from her home and would force dog walkers to take a very slightly different route. She doesn’t own a dog.

    https://thecritic.co.uk/meet-the-new-swing-voters/

    Inaccurate.

    If it was she'd quote it in good solid British miles, not those ugly napoleonic things.
    Not Napoleonic. Before that.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    Austrian girls singing about Edgar Allen Poe :lol:

    Oh and they look OK :)

    Austria song really good

    I am on Finland at 3/1 far too short really
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,708



    …Harri also claimed that Johnson described Sue Gray’s investigation into the Downing Street parties scandal as an “orgy of pain, abuse and humiliation”.


    Unused to having someone around who saw through his bullshit, and could do something about it, I guess
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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,774

    kle4 said:

    Have to admit I did chuckle at a few of these, you'd almost believe it was a serious piece.

    Meet the new swing voters - Demographics that will make a difference
    Boomer Brenda. Brenda was born in 1953 and has spent the last two decades telling people about life in World War Two. She lives in the village of Plumley-on-Len, which has been in a Conservative constituency for the last 897 years. Still, she is outraged with Rishi Sunak for not responding to her letters about her opposition to the cancer research laboratory which is being built two kilometres from her home and would force dog walkers to take a very slightly different route. She doesn’t own a dog.

    https://thecritic.co.uk/meet-the-new-swing-voters/

    This is my guy.

    'Substack Simon. Simon recently lost his job at the Times, or the Observer, or the Telegraph. He has spent decades basking in the glow of his smug centrism but now finds himself on the outside looking in. He thinks the Conservatives are “Toffs” and populists but he can’t quite forgive Labour for Corbyn. He might vote Lib Dem if they make the right noises about Ukraine and “the trans thing” but he really wants Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart to lead a march on Westminster.'
    That article seems to be suggesting I should be calling people Nonces on Twitter.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,352

    Scott_xP said:

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?

    looks like a detachable pan handle
    I think you’re right! It fits perfectly on the side of the handleless pan I’m currently cooking lardons in. Thanks, you might have saved me from burning my fingers..
    Lardons?

    Wa-hey! That sounds INCREDIBLY rude!
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    darkagedarkage Posts: 4,797

    Good news on the way?

    Earnings rising by 7% a year whilst house prices forecast to fall 5 or maybe 10%. If earnings rise 4-5% for another five years and house prices remain stable the ratio of prices to earnings* would go from 9:1 to about 6.5:1 - which I could live with.

    *back of cigarette packet calculation.

    If you have inflation at 10%, and house prices are going down by 10%, then the assets are falling in value in real terms by 20%.
    The other part of this is build cost inflation rises with general inflation.
    So it quickly becomes unviable to build anything outside of high land value areas, which isn't a good thing.

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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,211

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Grill tray handle
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,880

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Grill tray handle
    Yes, I think you're right. The hole in the left-hand end is to hang the pan up. The grips on the right-hand side are to link to the grill pan

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Grill+pan+handle
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,030

    Does anyone know what this kitchen utensil is?


    Handle for a grill pan or large pot by looks of it
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