Seems like quite a low turnout crowd-wise. Weather or zeitgeist?
Highlights of the ceremony for me: the 6th century bible and Zadok the Priest. Both genuinely awesome.
Re turnout, probably both but there were also reports of people being turned away, and the route is quite a short one. If I'd wanted to go, I'd probably have been put off by the practicalities.
But there is not the popular enthusiasm there was for, say, Charles & Diana's wedding, where there were miles of crowds because St Paul's is miles from the Palace.
As I've posted before, there was not much effort to explain the point of the coronation, and what there was probably came too late. Even the supermarkets looked a bit drab, with crisps and biscuits in souvenir tins but not much to say this is potentially a once in a lifetime event.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Not really.
Loving it in our house. We are bouncing along , toasting and cheering.
It's one hell of a show.
Overall it seems much less impressive than the Queen's funeral to me. Fine in itself, well-executed, beautiful music but not quite on the same level.
Glad it all appears to have gone off safely though - all credit to the security services.
It depends how it moves you. This moves me just as deeply. The historical resonance of it.
And there are even more troops for this one. So the spectacle is just as strong.
There’s no aspect of this march which can match that long funeral march up the royal mile in Windsor. The endless repetitive funeral beat. The breaking of the wand. The last post from the piper
As a parade it was vastly superior
But this ritual coronation was better than the queens funeral service for me. Nothing can compare to hearing Zadok the Priest (some of the most sublime music ever written) being sung for its original purpose in its original setting
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
What planet are you on? Those military parades of infantry and cavalry are really not going to register one iota with Putin.
The days when soldiers ran away in terror at the sound of Malc on his bagpipes are over?
With apols for the repost, it was good to see Malc putting on his finest for the service this morning:
I went for petrol during the Coronation Service. The roads were packed, people at the bus stop and the shops all open with a steady flow of folk, people going about their normal lives. A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
Lordy, could you be more careful: "potentially" running an "avoidance" scheme. Is running avoidance schemes not what accountants do and isn't it perfectly legal?
Thin gruel for those of us who have so far been enjoying this luxurious feast put on by the SNP for general amusement. Must do better.
- issue non voting B shares to the children - Differential dividend rights that can be declared by the board - Live 7 years to take those shares out of the estate for inheritance tax purposes
The tax saving basically arises from moving from a 39% tax rate to using the personal allowance and dividend allowance for the kids (about £14k) and then paying a lower rate of tax on the balance
I assume the flypast will still be on, hard to tell from the TV footage but cloudbase is what 1,000 - 1,500ft?
Dura Ace may be able to help there, I think, with the view from a cockpit veteran.
I've only ever done one and that was 1,000' over DC. The military can pretty much sanction anything with the tacit understanding that there will be a ruthless cauldron of blame for the most junior officer involved if anything goes wrong. They would be mental to do it of they didn't have the normal VFR minima for low level flight. 1,000' vertical, 1500m horizontal to cloud and 5km flight visibility.
Do the mil use the 500’ rule, that is the law for us civvies?
Presumably, anything with a single engine needs to remain within gliding range of the river?
I went for petrol during the Coronation Service. The roads were packed, people at the bus stop and the shops all open with a steady flow of folk, people going about their normal lives. A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
What's wrong with power and might?
It's part of the pageantry. The command of the monarchy. It's reach.
I think having British guards carrying every flag of the Commonwealth, and the procession being led by the mounties, is a powerful symbol of unity and inclusion that isn't quite as imperial as you think.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Not really.
Loving it in our house. We are bouncing along , toasting and cheering.
It's one hell of a show.
Overall it seems much less impressive than the Queen's funeral to me. Fine in itself, well-executed, beautiful music but not quite on the same level.
Glad it all appears to have gone off safely though - all credit to the security services.
It depends how it moves you. This moves me just as deeply. The historical resonance of it.
And there are even more troops for this one. So the spectacle is just as strong.
I’m with the others. The parade has nothing like the same resonance as the coronation service. It’s just much more anachronistic because it’s not timeless: it’s rooted in the 18th and 19th centuries.
The coronation itself is of a different order. It’s a ceremony from deep time, mediaeval Norman at root but with hints of tradition going back further. Even the more modern Zadok the priest doesn’t upset this sense of a ritual stretching back epochs. Watching the crowning there was a feeling of the deep history of the island.
The military parades are impressive in their own way but on a very different level.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
Exactly what I was going to post ; the emphasis on huge parades is really a holdover from imperial times, when it was a necessary show to adversaries.
I think that the future of these ceremonies should be tasteful and grand, with some mystical elements ; but also smaller. If Charles has any sense with his slimming-down plans, this should be included, because it also sends an important message about the role of the monarchy and its awareness of its place in society.
It works for funerals. It was tremendous for QE2. The coffin on the gun carriage
But for more positive events - weddings, jubilees and coronations (however serious) somettjg more joyous is needed
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
What planet are you on? Those military parades of infantry and cavalry are really not going to register one iota with Putin.
The days when soldiers ran away in terror at the sound of Malc on his bagpipes are over?
With apols for the repost, it was good to see Malc putting on his finest for the service this morning:
Why is the bloke in the red kilt wearing Cthulhu on the front of his kilt.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
I went for petrol during the Coronation Service. The roads were packed, people at the bus stop and the shops all open with a steady flow of folk, people going about their normal lives. A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
Yawn.
Round here, I was the only one doing any work! It wasn't raining, but no usual Saturday morning lawn mowing or DIY. So I suppose they were all watching the telly.
Forgot to say, Crab Air don't have the best track record on this sort of caper. They mid-aired two Phenoms while "practicing" for the RAF 100th anniversary flypast.
Still better than Iran (and Venezuela) they've both crashed fucking all sorts doing mass fly pasts.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
What planet are you on? Those military parades of infantry and cavalry are really not going to register one iota with Putin.
The days when soldiers ran away in terror at the sound of Malc on his bagpipes are over?
With apols for the repost, it was good to see Malc putting on his finest for the service this morning:
Why is the bloke in the red kilt wearing Cthulhu on the front of his kilt.
I think you'll have to file a pubic information request to find out what it is.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Not really.
Loving it in our house. We are bouncing along , toasting and cheering.
It's one hell of a show.
Overall it seems much less impressive than the Queen's funeral to me. Fine in itself, well-executed, beautiful music but not quite on the same level.
Glad it all appears to have gone off safely though - all credit to the security services.
It depends how it moves you. This moves me just as deeply. The historical resonance of it.
And there are even more troops for this one. So the spectacle is just as strong.
I’m with the others. The parade has nothing like the same resonance as the coronation service. It’s just much more anachronistic because it’s not timeless: it’s rooted in the 18th and 19th centuries.
The coronation itself is of a different order. It’s a ceremony from deep time, mediaeval Norman at root but with hints of tradition going back further. Even the more modern Zadok the priest doesn’t upset this sense of a ritual stretching back epochs. Watching the crowning there was a feeling of the deep history of the island.
The military parades are impressive in their own way but on a very different level.
The rumour was he was going back to LA today for Archie's birthday but who knows?
Must say I have a lot of sympathy for "H" today. As well as walking into the lions den, on his own, he has had to watch the old bag who, along with his father, caused his late mother so much pain and heartache crowned Queen and will henceforth now have to bow before her whenever they meet. I don't think that's something I could do.
I hope he can now find some peace and happiness with Meghan and his family.
Yes, it must be odd for Prince Harry. But please bear in mind that it is little different from any child whose parents have broken up and perhaps remarried. Woe is him but his situation is commonplace for millions.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Not really.
Loving it in our house. We are bouncing along , toasting and cheering.
It's one hell of a show.
Overall it seems much less impressive than the Queen's funeral to me. Fine in itself, well-executed, beautiful music but not quite on the same level.
Glad it all appears to have gone off safely though - all credit to the security services.
It depends how it moves you. This moves me just as deeply. The historical resonance of it.
And there are even more troops for this one. So the spectacle is just as strong.
I’m with the others. The parade has nothing like the same resonance as the coronation service. It’s just much more anachronistic because it’s not timeless: it’s rooted in the 18th and 19th centuries.
The coronation itself is of a different order. It’s a ceremony from deep time, mediaeval Norman at root but with hints of tradition going back further. Even the more modern Zadok the priest doesn’t upset this sense of a ritual stretching back epochs. Watching the crowning there was a feeling of the deep history of the island.
The military parades are impressive in their own way but on a very different level.
Also it happens every year - the Trooping of the colour - or maybe every day - changing the guard to buck house
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
Ours don't project power. We don't have missile launchers trundling past behind the royal carriage. Ours show just how good we are at the pageantry.
I assume the flypast will still be on, hard to tell from the TV footage but cloudbase is what 1,000 - 1,500ft?
Dura Ace may be able to help there, I think, with the view from a cockpit veteran.
I've only ever done one and that was 1,000' over DC. The military can pretty much sanction anything with the tacit understanding that there will be a ruthless cauldron of blame for the most junior officer involved if anything goes wrong. They would be mental to do it of they didn't have the normal VFR minima for low level flight. 1,000' vertical, 1500m horizontal to cloud and 5km flight visibility.
What's the visibility today ? Also, doing a flypast over Washington D.C. sounds like fun.
There was a camera angle from above as a detachment of the Blue and Royals was trit-trotting through which was pretty much exactly like those photos of 1953 or perhaps Churchill's funeral.
Perhaps it was the rain rendering everything colourless and the navy tunics accentuating the monochrome. It was a just a moment but one of a past age.
I assume that when the BBC said it was the biggest military procession for seventy years, it was Churchill’s funeral that holds the record?
Being attacked in the streets? Bike nicked? Can't help mate.
Placard - to the Tower with you
I am a monarchist but preventing lawful protests by Republicans is wrong on so many levels. Stupid action by Government enacting the laws and stupid action by the police in enforcing them this way.
I don't see the PB Wokefinders for Freedom lamenting this. Just wait for the anti-woke protests under a Labour government. Labour have been given absolute carte blanche to deal with them in the same way.
New Labour had people arrested for holding up, in silence, a placard saying “Remember Tibet”
Wearing a t-shirt with “Bollocks to Blair” on it would get you stopped by the police along Whitehall.
The cabinet secretary justified the arrest of an opposition MP on the grounds that the leaks to the said MP had upset the spin doctors lies to the press.
Labour has always been authoritarian. Not understanding that the LibDems are serious about civil liberties has long confused relations between the two parties.
It’s the main reason I’m a Lib Dem.
In my long experience as a councillor, I found it a real mental block when dealing with Labour councillors. So often, if the object of a proposal was of merit they simply couldn’t understand why we were concerned with how it was to be done. And we couldn’t understand why they couldn’t understand that how things are done very often matters just as much as the outcome.
Example conversation:
Labour councillors: This project looks really good, let’s get it done!
LibDem councillors: We agree. Why not consult residents in the area to see what they think?
Labour: But anyone can see this is a good idea, let’s just go for it!
LibDem: But if we ask local people what they think, most of them will probably agree with us and will feel more involved in, and more grateful for, the project when we implement it, and the minority that have criticisms might help us find ways to improve the proposal or avoid some pitfall that we haven’t spotted? And if something unexpected happens and it doesn’t work out as we hope, it would be good to have the backing of those affected before we go ahead.
Lab: Yes, but consulting people will delay things by X months and cost £X, so we should just get it done now. We are the councillors, do we really care what local people think?
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
In case you missed it, his parades tend to be full of big beasts of rockets and tanks. Ours are horses and carriages. Now I really like the parades for their ceremonial and glitz but the idea that anyone opposed to our country looks at these paraes we do and has a moment's pause is laughable.
I assume the flypast will still be on, hard to tell from the TV footage but cloudbase is what 1,000 - 1,500ft?
Dura Ace may be able to help there, I think, with the view from a cockpit veteran.
I've only ever done one and that was 1,000' over DC. The military can pretty much sanction anything with the tacit understanding that there will be a ruthless cauldron of blame for the most junior officer involved if anything goes wrong. They would be mental to do it of they didn't have the normal VFR minima for low level flight. 1,000' vertical, 1500m horizontal to cloud and 5km flight visibility.
Do the mil use the 500’ rule, that is the law for us civvies?
Presumably, anything with a single engine needs to remain within gliding range of the river?
The army helicopters practising over the Blackmore Vale don't - often lower than the downs the other side of the valley.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
What's wrong with power and might?
It's part of the pageantry. The command of the monarchy. It's reach.
I think having British guards carrying every flag of the Commonwealth, and the procession being led by the mounties, is a powerful symbol of unity and inclusion that isn't quite as imperial as you think.
I assume the flypast will still be on, hard to tell from the TV footage but cloudbase is what 1,000 - 1,500ft?
Dura Ace may be able to help there, I think, with the view from a cockpit veteran.
I've only ever done one and that was 1,000' over DC. The military can pretty much sanction anything with the tacit understanding that there will be a ruthless cauldron of blame for the most junior officer involved if anything goes wrong. They would be mental to do it of they didn't have the normal VFR minima for low level flight. 1,000' vertical, 1500m horizontal to cloud and 5km flight visibility.
Do the mil use the 500’ rule, that is the law for us civvies?
Presumably, anything with a single engine needs to remain within gliding range of the river?
It depends on location, aircraft, crew experience, objectives, etc. Generally, pay attention in the brief!
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
What planet are you on? Those military parades of infantry and cavalry are really not going to register one iota with Putin.
The days when soldiers ran away in terror at the sound of Malc on his bagpipes are over?
With apols for the repost, it was good to see Malc putting on his finest for the service this morning:
Why is the bloke in the red kilt wearing Cthulhu on the front of his kilt.
KCIII likes to style himself as Defender of the Faiths. Can't be picking and choosing these days.
I went for petrol during the Coronation Service. The roads were packed, people at the bus stop and the shops all open with a steady flow of folk, people going about their normal lives. A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
I took the dog for a quick walk during a break in the rain, towards the end of the religious dirge, and there were a lot of other people about.
Forgot to say, Crab Air don't have the best track record on this sort of caper. They mid-aired two Phenoms while "practicing" for the RAF 100th anniversary flypast.
Still better than Iran (and Venezuela) they've both crashed fucking all sorts doing mass fly pasts.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
Exactly what I was going to post ; the emphasis on huge parades is really a holdover from imperial times, when it was a necessary show to adversaries.
I think that the future of these ceremonies should be tasteful and grand, with some mystical elements ; but also smaller. If Charles has any sense with his slimming-down plans, this should be included, because it also sends an important message about the role of the monarchy and its awareness of its place in society.
It works for funerals. It was tremendous for QE2. The coffin on the gun carriage
But for more positive events - weddings, jubilees and coronations (however serious) somettjg more joyous is needed
There was a camera angle from above as a detachment of the Blue and Royals was trit-trotting through which was pretty much exactly like those photos of 1953 or perhaps Churchill's funeral.
Perhaps it was the rain rendering everything colourless and the navy tunics accentuating the monochrome. It was a just a moment but one of a past age.
I assume that when the BBC said it was the biggest military procession for seventy years, it was Churchill’s funeral that holds the record?
Churchill's funral ppparently involved around 2,500 military personnel. This one was apparently 6,000.
"Flypast scaled down due to weather - MoD We've just received some breaking news from the Ministry of Defence in the last few moments.
It relates to the flypast which is still expected to take place in 30 minutes or so.
A statement says: "Due to unsuitable weather conditions, the Coronation flypast will now be formed of helicopters and the Royal Air Force aerobatic team The Red Arrows."
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
In case you missed it, his parades tend to be full of big beasts of rockets and tanks. Ours are horses and carriages. Now I really like the parades for their ceremonial and glitz but the idea that anyone opposed to our country looks at these paraes we do and has a moment's pause is laughable.
The problem we have is that HY has sent all our tanks up to the Scottish border.
A mistake surely on a par with the Germans not sending their panzer divisions to Normandy?
I assume the flypast will still be on, hard to tell from the TV footage but cloudbase is what 1,000 - 1,500ft?
Dura Ace may be able to help there, I think, with the view from a cockpit veteran.
I've only ever done one and that was 1,000' over DC. The military can pretty much sanction anything with the tacit understanding that there will be a ruthless cauldron of blame for the most junior officer involved if anything goes wrong. They would be mental to do it of they didn't have the normal VFR minima for low level flight. 1,000' vertical, 1500m horizontal to cloud and 5km flight visibility.
Do the mil use the 500’ rule, that is the law for us civvies?
Presumably, anything with a single engine needs to remain within gliding range of the river?
The army helicopters practising over the Blackmore Vale don't - often lower than the downs the other side of the valley.
Once had a Puma buzz past in dense fog, gale force winds half way up a Corbett near Applecross. Genuinely impressed by the bravery/lunacy - was unbelievably low.
So, I think I've found the answer to the question I posed a few days ago. Tories on here don't seem to like the current Conservative party very much, and certainly not that keen on the current leadership, so I asked: Who do you want?
Clearly, she's been found. Mordaunt.
The moment she says JK Rowling may have a point over trans issues, you’ll know Mordaunt is on it like a car bonnet.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
What's wrong with power and might?
It's part of the pageantry. The command of the monarchy. It's reach.
I think having British guards carrying every flag of the Commonwealth, and the procession being led by the mounties, is a powerful symbol of unity and inclusion that isn't quite as imperial as you think.
Were they carrying all the flags of the Commonwealth then?
I have no problem with imperial scenes either which way but you seem peculiarly obsessed by what others say and weirdly quick to research what they've said /unsaid in the past, which I have no idea how to do.
I don't believe the Monarchy is any more Tory than Labour.
Labour has been in government many times, never once tried to change or touch the monarchy. Indeed Blair did a lot to save it after Diana.
Wilson was the QEII's favourite PM, closely followed by Callaghan, who said going to see her was like "seeking a solving of your problems by a psychiatrist." The Queen and Thatcher, famously, couldn't stand each other.
From a liberal point of view, in its best moments the British monarchy can represent some of the more enlightened noblesse oblige and consensus spirit of the wartime and postwar era. Certainly preferable to aggressive populist conservatism, for me, and I suspect many others.
Very little in this world is not preferable to aggressive populist conservatism imo.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
In case you missed it, his parades tend to be full of big beasts of rockets and tanks. Ours are horses and carriages. Now I really like the parades for their ceremonial and glitz but the idea that anyone opposed to our country looks at these paraes we do and has a moment's pause is laughable.
The problem we have is that HY has sent all our tanks up to the Scottish border.
A mistake surely on a par with the Germans not sending their panzer divisions to Normandy?
I thought our tanks were heading towards the Azov Sea coast?
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
North Korea has the best military choreography.
MONARCHY = SOCIALISM!
This argument was boring the first of the thousand times you posted it Sunil.
There was a camera angle from above as a detachment of the Blue and Royals was trit-trotting through which was pretty much exactly like those photos of 1953 or perhaps Churchill's funeral.
Perhaps it was the rain rendering everything colourless and the navy tunics accentuating the monochrome. It was a just a moment but one of a past age.
I assume that when the BBC said it was the biggest military procession for seventy years, it was Churchill’s funeral that holds the record?
Churchill's funral ppparently involved around 2,500 military personnel. This one was apparently 6,000.
"Flypast scaled down due to weather - MoD We've just received some breaking news from the Ministry of Defence in the last few moments.
It relates to the flypast which is still expected to take place in 30 minutes or so.
A statement says: "Due to unsuitable weather conditions, the Coronation flypast will now be formed of helicopters and the Royal Air Force aerobatic team The Red Arrows."
I went for petrol during the Coronation Service. The roads were packed, people at the bus stop and the shops all open with a steady flow of folk, people going about their normal lives. A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
Yawn.
Go easy on them. The miserable self-centred party-poopers need something to cleave to.
There was a camera angle from above as a detachment of the Blue and Royals was trit-trotting through which was pretty much exactly like those photos of 1953 or perhaps Churchill's funeral.
Perhaps it was the rain rendering everything colourless and the navy tunics accentuating the monochrome. It was a just a moment but one of a past age.
I assume that when the BBC said it was the biggest military procession for seventy years, it was Churchill’s funeral that holds the record?
Churchill's funral ppparently involved around 2,500 military personnel. This one was apparently 6,000.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
See his own military parades, demos of military strength matter to power projection
North Korea has the best military choreography.
MONARCHY = SOCIALISM!
This argument was boring the first of the thousand times you posted it Sunil.
Yeah, these military parades are fucking boring, aren't they?
There was a camera angle from above as a detachment of the Blue and Royals was trit-trotting through which was pretty much exactly like those photos of 1953 or perhaps Churchill's funeral.
Perhaps it was the rain rendering everything colourless and the navy tunics accentuating the monochrome. It was a just a moment but one of a past age.
I assume that when the BBC said it was the biggest military procession for seventy years, it was Churchill’s funeral that holds the record?
Churchill's funral ppparently involved around 2,500 military personnel. This one was apparently 6,000.
So, I think I've found the answer to the question I posed a few days ago. Tories on here don't seem to like the current Conservative party very much, and certainly not that keen on the current leadership, so I asked: Who do you want?
Clearly, she's been found. Mordaunt.
The moment she says JK Rowling may have a point over trans issues, you’ll know Mordaunt is on it like a car bonnet.
If Penny hadn’t got caught up with Stonewall, she could have been PM for the past eight months.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
Cos that’s one of the things that has always been important to Russian Tzars Presidents
So, I think I've found the answer to the question I posed a few days ago. Tories on here don't seem to like the current Conservative party very much, and certainly not that keen on the current leadership, so I asked: Who do you want?
Clearly, she's been found. Mordaunt.
The moment she says JK Rowling may have a point over trans issues, you’ll know Mordaunt is on it like a car bonnet.
Had the Tories gambled on Mordaunt, things might have panned out quite differently.
Now, they won’t be in power again until our HY is retired.
I love an ancient, mystical British ritual dating back to 7,000BC but I just can’t be arsed with military parades. In the drizzle. Yawn
I know it’s all very impressively choreographed but Meh
I know what you mean, unlike the ancient rituals the military parade is strangely anachronistic.
Yes, it’s all about British imperial might, which is fairly laughable now. The French version on bastille day is no better. It’s vulgar, sad and bombastic
That said I find all parades pretty boring, anywhere in the world - unless they are bacchanals like mayday in padstow or Jouverr in Trini carnival
What's wrong with power and might?
It's part of the pageantry. The command of the monarchy. It's reach.
I think having British guards carrying every flag of the Commonwealth, and the procession being led by the mounties, is a powerful symbol of unity and inclusion that isn't quite as imperial as you think.
The rumour was he was going back to LA today for Archie's birthday but who knows?
Must say I have a lot of sympathy for "H" today. As well as walking into the lions den, on his own, he has had to watch the old bag who, along with his father, caused his late mother so much pain and heartache crowned Queen and will henceforth now have to bow before her whenever they meet. I don't think that's something I could do.
I hope he can now find some peace and happiness with Meghan and his family.
Why so much bitterness and hatred for someone you have never met.
Divorces happen. Marriages break down. I am glad that the King has found love again and has a supporter and helpmate.
So, I think I've found the answer to the question I posed a few days ago. Tories on here don't seem to like the current Conservative party very much, and certainly not that keen on the current leadership, so I asked: Who do you want?
Clearly, she's been found. Mordaunt.
The moment she says JK Rowling may have a point over trans issues, you’ll know Mordaunt is on it like a car bonnet.
If Penny hadn’t got caught up with Stonewall, she could have been PM for the past eight months.
If the Tory membership ditched their best candidate over this issue perhaps that says more about them than anything else: obsessed with culture war issues at the expense of real world problems does absolutely sum up the current state of the Conservatives tbh.
"Flypast scaled down due to weather - MoD We've just received some breaking news from the Ministry of Defence in the last few moments.
It relates to the flypast which is still expected to take place in 30 minutes or so.
A statement says: "Due to unsuitable weather conditions, the Coronation flypast will now be formed of helicopters and the Royal Air Force aerobatic team The Red Arrows."
VFR minima are less for RW below 140kts. Red Arrows will do it no matter what in desperate search for relevance and redemption following the drink soaked shenanigans of the last year.
Lordy, could you be more careful: "potentially" running an "avoidance" scheme. Is running avoidance schemes not what accountants do and isn't it perfectly legal?
Thin gruel for those of us who have so far been enjoying this luxurious feast put on by the SNP for general amusement. Must do better.
- issue non voting B shares to the children - Differential dividend rights that can be declared by the board - Live 7 years to take those shares out of the estate for inheritance tax purposes
The tax saving basically arises from moving from a 39% tax rate to using the personal allowance and dividend allowance for the kids (about £14k) and then paying a lower rate of tax on the balance
That is likely to fall foul of Chapter 5 Part 5 ITTOIA 2005 (settlements regime).
I went for petrol during the Coronation Service. The roads were packed, people at the bus stop and the shops all open with a steady flow of folk, people going about their normal lives. A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
I took the dog for a quick walk during a break in the rain, towards the end of the religious dirge, and there were a lot of other people about.
I popped to the shop for some cooking ingredients mid coronation. Not the only one there.
The rumour was he was going back to LA today for Archie's birthday but who knows?
Must say I have a lot of sympathy for "H" today. As well as walking into the lions den, on his own, he has had to watch the old bag who, along with his father, caused his late mother so much pain and heartache crowned Queen and will henceforth now have to bow before her whenever they meet. I don't think that's something I could do.
I hope he can now find some peace and happiness with Meghan and his family.
Why so much bitterness and hatred for someone you have never met.
Divorces happen. Marriages break down. I am glad that the King has found love again and has a supporter and helpmate.
"Flypast scaled down due to weather - MoD We've just received some breaking news from the Ministry of Defence in the last few moments.
It relates to the flypast which is still expected to take place in 30 minutes or so.
A statement says: "Due to unsuitable weather conditions, the Coronation flypast will now be formed of helicopters and the Royal Air Force aerobatic team The Red Arrows."
VFR minima are less for RW below 140kts. Red Arrows will do it no matter what in desperate search for relevance and redemption following the drink soaked shenanigans of the last year.
Yet they’ve already cancelled their planned follow on flypast over Bournemouth
Well it's been nice hanging out here for the Coronation.
I would have spent days like this watching the events with my mother but she passed away last year, so it's been nice to share the time with PB instead.
Anyone going to a party have fun. Have a good afternoon PB.
Being attacked in the streets? Bike nicked? Can't help mate.
Placard - to the Tower with you
I am a monarchist but preventing lawful protests by Republicans is wrong on so many levels. Stupid action by Government enacting the laws and stupid action by the police in enforcing them this way.
I don't see the PB Wokefinders for Freedom lamenting this. Just wait for the anti-woke protests under a Labour government. Labour have been given absolute carte blanche to deal with them in the same way.
New Labour had people arrested for holding up, in silence, a placard saying “Remember Tibet” ...
Yes, of course that makes it OK. How could anyone have doubted it?
You're missing the point. The precedents are already there.
Incidentally, the bizarre, and often illegal, infiltration tactics used at that time against harmless protest groups (such as the tree climbing swampy types) are still going through the courts.
So, I think I've found the answer to the question I posed a few days ago. Tories on here don't seem to like the current Conservative party very much, and certainly not that keen on the current leadership, so I asked: Who do you want?
Clearly, she's been found. Mordaunt.
The moment she says JK Rowling may have a point over trans issues, you’ll know Mordaunt is on it like a car bonnet.
If Penny hadn’t got caught up with Stonewall, she could have been PM for the past eight months.
If the Tory membership ditched their best candidate over this issue perhaps that says more about them than anything else: obsessed with culture war issues at the expense of real world problems does absolutely sum up the current state of the Conservatives tbh.
Penny lost my respect when she changed her tune and lied about her past views. She should have stuck to her guns.
So, I think I've found the answer to the question I posed a few days ago. Tories on here don't seem to like the current Conservative party very much, and certainly not that keen on the current leadership, so I asked: Who do you want?
Clearly, she's been found. Mordaunt.
The moment she says JK Rowling may have a point over trans issues, you’ll know Mordaunt is on it like a car bonnet.
If Penny hadn’t got caught up with Stonewall, she could have been PM for the past eight months.
If the Tory membership ditched their best candidate over this issue perhaps that says more about them than anything else: obsessed with culture war issues at the expense of real world problems does absolutely sum up the current state of the Conservatives tbh.
Leadership in politics is about persuading people and winning their support.
Penny Mordaunt's failure to win an election within her own party doesn't scream excellence in political leadership to me, particularly when the other leading candidates were Liz Truss and a teetotaler who comes across as an overeager teenager. Same argument as Rory Stewart.
I expect Putin will take more notice on the military parades we and the French put on than the great ceremony we just witnessed however.
Just coming back from Whitehall now in the drizzle, we caught a glimpse of the new King and Queen in their coach on the way back. Will watch the full ceremony on iplayer tonight
Genuine question, why would Putin take note of our parades, no matter how well choreographed they are?
Not enough missiles and tanks for Russian tastes, I imagine.
The Russian army is back to.the T-55s now. Not enough T-34 left to do much with, so they will be pretty interested in managing horses, soon.
Being attacked in the streets? Bike nicked? Can't help mate.
Placard - to the Tower with you
I am a monarchist but preventing lawful protests by Republicans is wrong on so many levels. Stupid action by Government enacting the laws and stupid action by the police in enforcing them this way.
I don't see the PB Wokefinders for Freedom lamenting this. Just wait for the anti-woke protests under a Labour government. Labour have been given absolute carte blanche to deal with them in the same way.
New Labour had people arrested for holding up, in silence, a placard saying “Remember Tibet”
Wearing a t-shirt with “Bollocks to Blair” on it would get you stopped by the police along Whitehall.
The cabinet secretary justified the arrest of an opposition MP on the grounds that the leaks to the said MP had upset the spin doctors lies to the press.
Labour has always been authoritarian. Not understanding that the LibDems are serious about civil liberties has long confused relations between the two parties.
It’s the main reason I’m a Lib Dem.
In my long experience as a councillor, I found it a real mental block when dealing with Labour councillors. So often, if the object of a proposal was of merit they simply couldn’t understand why we were concerned with how it was to be done. And we couldn’t understand why they couldn’t understand that how things are done very often matters just as much as the outcome.
The ends do not justify the means. The means, however, illuminate the morality of the ends.
So now we are reduced to Deborah Meaden and Anton du Beke opining on the day’s happenings
If you so obviously loathe it and find it laughable - why the fucking fucketty fuck are you watching a single minute of coverage?!
People like you are plastic republicans. You secretly love royalty, but you are too socially insecure to admit this because you associate monarchism with lower class people from Wolverhampton wearing Union Jack hats on the Mall
Being attacked in the streets? Bike nicked? Can't help mate.
Placard - to the Tower with you
I am a monarchist but preventing lawful protests by Republicans is wrong on so many levels. Stupid action by Government enacting the laws and stupid action by the police in enforcing them this way.
I don't see the PB Wokefinders for Freedom lamenting this. Just wait for the anti-woke protests under a Labour government. Labour have been given absolute carte blanche to deal with them in the same way.
New Labour had people arrested for holding up, in silence, a placard saying “Remember Tibet” ...
Yes, of course that makes it OK. How could anyone have doubted it?
You're missing the point. The precedents are already there.
Incidentally, the bizarre, and often illegal, infiltration tactics used at that time against harmless protest groups (such as the tree climbing swampy types) are still going through the courts.
Must have been a pretty horrible day for the security services and the police, to be honest. Thankfully, everything appears so far to have passed off peacefully.
It’s difficult to know where to draw the line with protestors, given the number of major events that have been seriously disrupted in the past year. People should have been able to wave banners protesting the King or the monarchy.
There was a camera angle from above as a detachment of the Blue and Royals was trit-trotting through which was pretty much exactly like those photos of 1953 or perhaps Churchill's funeral.
Perhaps it was the rain rendering everything colourless and the navy tunics accentuating the monochrome. It was a just a moment but one of a past age.
I assume that when the BBC said it was the biggest military procession for seventy years, it was Churchill’s funeral that holds the record?
?
Churchill's funeral was only 58 years ago.
The Queen's coronation was 70 years ago.
Isn’t that just saying that Churchill’s funeral was the largest *since* the last coronation?
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But there is not the popular enthusiasm there was for, say, Charles & Diana's wedding, where there were miles of crowds because St Paul's is miles from the Palace.
As I've posted before, there was not much effort to explain the point of the coronation, and what there was probably came too late. Even the supermarkets looked a bit drab, with crisps and biscuits in souvenir tins but not much to say this is potentially a once in a lifetime event.
As a parade it was vastly superior
But this ritual coronation was better than the queens funeral service for me. Nothing can compare to hearing Zadok the Priest (some of the most sublime music ever written) being sung for its original purpose in its original setting
A totally different picture to the one painted by the media.
Much simpler:
- issue non voting B shares to the children
- Differential dividend rights that can be declared by the board
- Live 7 years to take those shares out of the estate for inheritance tax purposes
The tax saving basically arises from moving from a 39% tax rate to using the personal allowance and dividend allowance for the kids (about £14k) and then paying a lower rate of tax on the balance
Presumably, anything with a single engine needs to remain within gliding range of the river?
It's part of the pageantry. The command of the monarchy. It's reach.
I think having British guards carrying every flag of the Commonwealth, and the procession being led by the mounties, is a powerful symbol of unity and inclusion that isn't quite as imperial as you think.
More a family that shares values.
The coronation itself is of a different order. It’s a ceremony from deep time, mediaeval Norman at root but with hints of tradition going back further. Even the more modern Zadok the priest doesn’t upset this sense of a ritual stretching back epochs. Watching the crowning there was a feeling of the deep history of the island.
The military parades are impressive in their own way but on a very different level.
I’m a royalist. I loved the coronation. I can do without the horsey bits
I saw a total of two flags.
Standard.
May he defend our laws
And always give us cause
To shout with one heart and voice
God save the King
It’s a duty he is taking on, rewarded by a conditional pledge of loyalty by the people
2p.
Still better than Iran (and Venezuela) they've both crashed fucking all sorts doing mass fly pasts.
MONARCHY = SOCIALISM!
A coronation for the first time in 70 years? Wow
Also, doing a flypast over Washington D.C. sounds like fun.
Churchill's funeral was only 58 years ago.
The Queen's coronation was 70 years ago.
Labour councillors: This project looks really good, let’s get it done!
LibDem councillors: We agree. Why not consult residents in the area to see what they think?
Labour: But anyone can see this is a good idea, let’s just go for it!
LibDem: But if we ask local people what they think, most of them will probably agree with us and will feel more involved in, and more grateful for, the project when we implement it, and the minority that have criticisms might help us find ways to improve the proposal or avoid some pitfall that we haven’t spotted? And if something unexpected happens and it doesn’t work out as we hope, it would be good to have the backing of those affected before we go ahead.
Lab: Yes, but consulting people will delay things by X months and cost £X, so we should just get it done now. We are the councillors, do we really care what local people think?
The army helicopters practising over the Blackmore Vale don't - often lower than the downs the other side of the valley.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/4123233#Comment_4123233
We've just received some breaking news from the Ministry of Defence in the last few moments.
It relates to the flypast which is still expected to take place in 30 minutes or so.
A statement says: "Due to unsuitable weather conditions, the Coronation flypast will now be formed of helicopters and the Royal Air Force aerobatic team The Red Arrows."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65474712
A mistake surely on a par with the Germans not sending their panzer divisions to Normandy?
https://metar-taf.com/EGLC
Heathrow is IMC, cloudbase 800’
https://metar-taf.com/EGLL
Could be touch-and-go if they need 1,000’
I have no problem with imperial scenes either which way but you seem peculiarly obsessed by what others say and weirdly quick to research what they've said /unsaid in the past, which I have no idea how to do.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/05/06/penny-mourdant-outfit-king-coronation/
Now, they won’t be in power again until our HY is retired.
I think Leon et al are right - the service itself was fascinating but all the stuff afterwards is diluting its power.
Divorces happen. Marriages break down. I am glad that the King has found love again and has a supporter and helpmate.
Or, at least not until after the event.
I would have spent days like this watching the events with my mother but she passed away last year, so it's been nice to share the time with PB instead.
Anyone going to a party have fun. Have a good afternoon PB.
So beatable the Tories had to change the electoral system.
Incidentally, the bizarre, and often illegal, infiltration tactics used at that time against harmless protest groups (such as the tree climbing swampy types) are still going through the courts.
Penny Mordaunt's failure to win an election within her own party doesn't scream excellence in political leadership to me, particularly when the other leading candidates were Liz Truss and a teetotaler who comes across as an overeager teenager. Same argument as Rory Stewart.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1654838817059160184
People like you are plastic republicans. You secretly love royalty, but you are too socially insecure to admit this because you associate monarchism with lower class people from Wolverhampton wearing Union Jack hats on the Mall
It’s difficult to know where to draw the line with protestors, given the number of major events that have been seriously disrupted in the past year. People should have been able to wave banners protesting the King or the monarchy.
King and Queen now on the balcony!
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1654821347812585473