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It’s going to be a long night with many state results not expected for days.

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JosiasJessop

First to point out 'the the' in the title...

Fairliered

A good night for the Republicans is a bad night for the rest of the world.

TheKitchenCabinet

I think the Ds will just hold on here but too early to call. It does feel like R enthusiasm is a lot higher.

murali_s

Is the US a backward Banana Republic? Discuss!

Scott_xP

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

JosiasJessop

Scott_xP said:

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

Forbes' real-time billionaires list is fun:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4d67f3d73d78

BigRich

If we are talking about the New Hampshire Senet race, I would like to mention the Libertarian Candidate for that race, Jeremy Kauffman, who has been producing some quite good adds, well funny anyway. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXlTyJb684

Hint: watch more than the first 20 seconds to get the joke.

kle4

JosiasJessop said:

Scott_xP said:

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

Forbes' real-time billionaires list is fun:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4d67f3d73d78

Why is Bezos down so much from his high?

Scott_xP

Sunak in quandary over fate of ‘dark arts’ practitioner Williamson https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/08/rishi-sunak-quandary-fate-dark-arts-expert-gavin-williamson

wooliedyed

kle4 said:

JosiasJessop said:

Scott_xP said:

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

Forbes' real-time billionaires list is fun:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4d67f3d73d78

Why is Bezos down so much from his high?

Divorce

JosiasJessop

wooliedyed said:

kle4 said:

JosiasJessop said:

Scott_xP said:

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

Forbes' real-time billionaires list is fun:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4d67f3d73d78

Why is Bezos down so much from his high?

Divorce

And I think he's been divesting much of his stock, and spending it in other areas.

I know this is an unpopular sentiment, but I quite like Jeff Bezos. His is a genuine rags-to-riches story, through hard work.

ping

Lol

Luke Pollard in the Commons re: Qatar

“I declare an interest as a massive gay”

https://twitter.com/LukePollard/status/1589958923850760195

Theuniondivvie

Sorry Johnny, yer hero Keef is the only man who can get away with eye liner after menopause.

turbotubbs

ping said:

Lol

Luke Pollard in the Commons re: Qatar

“I declare an interest as a massive gay”

https://twitter.com/LukePollard/status/1589958923850760195

He’s not that tall, so I assume he’s bragging about something else.

kle4

Ok, I did chuckle a bit

the history of infantry is just a slow-mo picture book of guys standing increasingly further apart

guys cuddling? early history

guys barely within shouting distance? late history

guys sorta semi close? middle history

https://twitter.com/notaterrornerd/status/1589727574326145025?cxt=HHwWgsDT1cuz7I8sAAAA

Casino_Royale

Maybe this is what happens as a parent of two but I'm watching Motherland season 2 and actually finding it funny.

stodge

Evening all

Very late to the party as per usual I suspect but a quick look at the boundary changes for my part of the world.

The current East Ham constituency reduced by a third, with everything south of the A13 going into the new West Ham & Beckton constituency.

However, the excessively large (on existing boundaries) West Ham & Beckton loses much of the land north of the A124 (the Barking Road) - including Stratford - to the new Stratford & Bow constituency which will straddle both Newham and Tower Hamlets.

In effect, Newham will go from two constituencies to two and a half as will Tower Hamlets with Poplar & Limehouse losing a little in the north and west to a new Bethnal Green & Stepney constituency.

Net effect - 4 Labour seats become 5 Labour seats though I'd expect the Greens to finish second in Stratford & Bow next time.

rottenborough

Casino_Royale said:

Maybe this is what happens as a parent of two but I'm watching Motherland season 2 and actually finding it funny.

Motherland is genius. One of the great comedies of recent times.

Luckyguy1983

Scott_xP said:

Sunak in quandary over fate of ‘dark arts’ practitioner Williamson https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/08/rishi-sunak-quandary-fate-dark-arts-expert-gavin-williamson

Did Williamson not run Sunak's leadership campaign? And then he made him Minister without Portfolio - the Mandelson role. That piece makes out that they barely know each other and that Williamson's presence at the heart of Government is some sort of odd coincidence.

turbotubbs

stodge said:

Evening all

Very late to the party as per usual I suspect but a quick look at the boundary changes for my part of the world.

The current East Ham constituency reduced by a third, with everything south of the A13 going into the new West Ham & Beckton constituency.

However, the excessively large (on existing boundaries) West Ham & Beckton loses much of the land north of the A124 (the Barking Road) - including Stratford - to the new Stratford & Bow constituency which will straddle both Newham and Tower Hamlets.

In effect, Newham will go from two constituencies to two and a half as will Tower Hamlets with Poplar & Limehouse losing a little in the north and west to a new Bethnal Green & Stepney constituency.

Net effect - 4 Labour seats become 5 Labour seats though I'd expect the Greens to finish second in Stratford & Bow next time.

Some very large rural constituencies. My folks village in south wilts in the same constituency as villages north of the M4 by Swindon.

kinabalu

Anyway it's here - a big big night - so a couple of neck on block predictions from me:

Janusz to be star baker. Abdul to go.

williamglenn

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

rottenborough

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

This is how a democracy ends.

Doubt the founding fathers could have foreseen these power-crazed anti-demos whackos.

kle4

turbotubbs said:

stodge said:

Evening all

Very late to the party as per usual I suspect but a quick look at the boundary changes for my part of the world.

The current East Ham constituency reduced by a third, with everything south of the A13 going into the new West Ham & Beckton constituency.

However, the excessively large (on existing boundaries) West Ham & Beckton loses much of the land north of the A124 (the Barking Road) - including Stratford - to the new Stratford & Bow constituency which will straddle both Newham and Tower Hamlets.

In effect, Newham will go from two constituencies to two and a half as will Tower Hamlets with Poplar & Limehouse losing a little in the north and west to a new Bethnal Green & Stepney constituency.

Net effect - 4 Labour seats become 5 Labour seats though I'd expect the Greens to finish second in Stratford & Bow next time.

Some very large rural constituencies. My folks village in south wilts in the same constituency as villages north of the M4 by Swindon.

Either you mix urban and rural (sometimes unavoidable), or you have very large constituencies.

Or have much more varied constituency size.

Large constituencies seems the lesser evil.

biggles

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

In English?

turbotubbs

kle4 said:

turbotubbs said:

stodge said:

Evening all

Very late to the party as per usual I suspect but a quick look at the boundary changes for my part of the world.

The current East Ham constituency reduced by a third, with everything south of the A13 going into the new West Ham & Beckton constituency.

However, the excessively large (on existing boundaries) West Ham & Beckton loses much of the land north of the A124 (the Barking Road) - including Stratford - to the new Stratford & Bow constituency which will straddle both Newham and Tower Hamlets.

In effect, Newham will go from two constituencies to two and a half as will Tower Hamlets with Poplar & Limehouse losing a little in the north and west to a new Bethnal Green & Stepney constituency.

Net effect - 4 Labour seats become 5 Labour seats though I'd expect the Greens to finish second in Stratford & Bow next time.

Some very large rural constituencies. My folks village in south wilts in the same constituency as villages north of the M4 by Swindon.

Either you mix urban and rural (sometimes unavoidable), or you have very large constituencies.

Or have much more varied constituency size.

Large constituencies seems the lesser evil.

I guess you can argue that lots of villages in rural wilts will be more similar in make up than being combined with Salisbury (as used to be the case).

kle4

turbotubbs said:

kle4 said:

turbotubbs said:

stodge said:

Evening all

Very late to the party as per usual I suspect but a quick look at the boundary changes for my part of the world.

The current East Ham constituency reduced by a third, with everything south of the A13 going into the new West Ham & Beckton constituency.

However, the excessively large (on existing boundaries) West Ham & Beckton loses much of the land north of the A124 (the Barking Road) - including Stratford - to the new Stratford & Bow constituency which will straddle both Newham and Tower Hamlets.

In effect, Newham will go from two constituencies to two and a half as will Tower Hamlets with Poplar & Limehouse losing a little in the north and west to a new Bethnal Green & Stepney constituency.

Net effect - 4 Labour seats become 5 Labour seats though I'd expect the Greens to finish second in Stratford & Bow next time.

Some very large rural constituencies. My folks village in south wilts in the same constituency as villages north of the M4 by Swindon.

Either you mix urban and rural (sometimes unavoidable), or you have very large constituencies.

Or have much more varied constituency size.

Large constituencies seems the lesser evil.

I guess you can argue that lots of villages in rural wilts will be more similar in make up than being combined with Salisbury (as used to be the case).

Well, ideally they could still be combined with it, or not cross over the Swindon boundary at all, but that's the population problem for you, and they've got a better proposal than the first anyway.

williamglenn

biggles said:

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

In English?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/come-to-Jesus moment

"a moment of sudden realization, comprehension, or recognition that often precipitates a major change"

BartholomewRoberts

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

Not sure if it's what she means but an ex boss of mine used to refer to conversations with poor performing colleagues as "come to Jesus" chats. "It's time to join the flock, or flock off".

kinabalu

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

Is that the 'evangelicals count double' plan?

MightyAlex

rottenborough said:

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

This is how a democracy ends.

Doubt the founding fathers could have foreseen these power-crazed anti-demos whackos.

They did try. But the crazies have had a few generations to iterate a solution.

Maybe democracies need to be continually evolving.

rcs1000

I'm not sure this is quite true. The Dems could (and should) hold NH, and still have a pretty miserable night.

numbertwelve

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

rcs1000

kle4 said:

JosiasJessop said:

Scott_xP said:

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

Forbes' real-time billionaires list is fun:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4d67f3d73d78

Why is Bezos down so much from his high?

Divorce.

Scott_xP

Williamson "resigns"

Scott_xP

And he's gone https://twitter.com/GavinWilliamson/status/1590074499889696768

londonpubman

Sky: Gavin Williamson has resigned

biggles

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

Isn’t “US” redundant in that post? Or at least has been for about 20 years.

Scott_xP

williamglenn said:

biggles said:

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

In English?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/come-to-Jesus moment

"a moment of sudden realization, comprehension, or recognition that often precipitates a major change"

My American boss used to have "come to Jesus" meetings to make sure everybody in the room was aligned with the plan

Scott_xP

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

williamglenn

Scott_xP said:

williamglenn said:

biggles said:

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

In English?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/come-to-Jesus moment

"a moment of sudden realization, comprehension, or recognition that often precipitates a major change"

My American boss used to have "come to Jesus" meetings to make sure everybody in the room was aligned with the plan

That's obviously where Theresa May went wrong.

Cookie

Theuniondivvie said:

Sorry Johnny, yer hero Keef is the only man who can get away with eye liner after menopause.

Normally when a man is claimed to look like a middle aged woman, he doesn't really - he's just got slightly big hair or something. It can be mildly amusing, but that's about it.
But is that really Jonny Depp? He genuinely looks like a middle aged woman.

Taz

https://order-order.com/2022/11/08/breaking-gavin-williamson-resigns/

Gavin Williams-GONE

numbertwelve

biggles said:

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

Isn’t “US” redundant in that post? Or at least has been for about 20 years.

There is a gentle, nostalgic charm to the BBC’s UK GE coverage at least. I will admit Sky is likely superior, though in 2019 they had that odious twerp Bercow which marked them down substantially.

kle4

Scott_xP said:

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

Not quite, since he was not afforded full status, but close enough given he was going to be important enough to attend it.

kinabalu

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

Well I'm doing the World Service special.

kle4

kinabalu said:

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

Is that the 'evangelicals count double' plan?

Genesis 1:28

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number your votes; fill the earth and subdue it through gerrymandering and voter suppression".

BigRich

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

so what is the right ancer? PB and twitter?

Casino_Royale

kle4 said:

kinabalu said:

williamglenn said:

Kari Lake says there will be a "come to Jesus" on election processes in Arizona after they win.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1590069187967320065

Is that the 'evangelicals count double' plan?

Genesis 1:28

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number your votes; fill the earth and subdue it through gerrymandering and voter suppression".

Betfair 1.28

Driver

kle4 said:

Scott_xP said:

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

Not quite, since he was not afforded full status, but close enough given he was going to be important enough to attend it.

He was supposed to be the Mandelson of this government, wasn't he?

Alistair

First results in. Big split ticket voting in NH

https://twitter.com/TimCalWMUR/status/1590070562462003200

Alistair

As we all know the vote from Dixville is a 100% guaranteed predictor of how the election will go.

Scott_xP

That Gavin Williamson ministerial record in full:

Sacked as defence secretary for leaking from National Security Council.
Sacked as education secretary over A-level exam chaos.
Resigns as Cabinet Office minister after 2 weeks over bullying texts.

https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1590077447273607168

Alistair

For the avoidance of doubt and to keep Elon Musk happy the above was parody.

kle4

It's actually pretty hard to get properly sacked from the Cabinet. PMs will stick by you a long time because it is not worth making an enemy or giving a win to the opposition.

To manage it twice, and then be forced to resign from a senior ministerial position, is genuinely impressive.

Nigel_Foremain

Driver said:

kle4 said:

Scott_xP said:

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

Not quite, since he was not afforded full status, but close enough given he was going to be important enough to attend it.

He was supposed to be the Mandelson of this government, wasn't he?

Ah, so we have had the poundshop Churchill, the poundshop Thatcher and now we have had the poundshop Mandelson.

Scott_xP

kle4 said:

Scott_xP said:

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

Not quite, since he was not afforded full status, but close enough given he was going to be important enough to attend it.

Portfolio Without Minister.

https://twitter.com/twlldun/status/1590077461085425664

kinabalu

Cookie said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Sorry Johnny, yer hero Keef is the only man who can get away with eye liner after menopause.

Normally when a man is claimed to look like a middle aged woman, he doesn't really - he's just got slightly big hair or something. It can be mildly amusing, but that's about it.
But is that really Jonny Depp? He genuinely looks like a middle aged woman.

He hasn't quite pulled off "elegantly wasted androgyny" there, has he? Not that I can, I hasten to add. Not these days.

kle4

Cheque didn't clear?

Former Fifa president Sepp Blatter says the decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a "mistake".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63554507

stodge

Scott_xP said:

That Gavin Williamson ministerial record in full:

Sacked as defence secretary for leaking from National Security Council.
Sacked as education secretary over A-level exam chaos.
Resigns as Cabinet Office minister after 2 weeks over bullying texts.

https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1590077447273607168

He is apparently going to clear his name.

Perhaps he can use the "sword of truth", though I don't know who has it at present?

Scott_xP

Literally the only surprising thing about Williamson having to resign is that Braverman didn’t have to do it first

https://twitter.com/gabyhinsliff/status/1590078378761416704

BigRich

Alistair said:

First results in. Big split ticket voting in NH

https://twitter.com/TimCalWMUR/status/1590070562462003200

NH is quite big on split ticket voting, IITC governor Sununu gat about 200,000 more votes than Trump in 2020 despite both being in the same party.

kle4

stodge said:

Scott_xP said:

That Gavin Williamson ministerial record in full:

Sacked as defence secretary for leaking from National Security Council.
Sacked as education secretary over A-level exam chaos.
Resigns as Cabinet Office minister after 2 weeks over bullying texts.

https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1590077447273607168

He is apparently going to clear his name.

Perhaps he can use the "sword of truth", though I don't know who has it at present?

Not sure what name clearing he can do - the accusations seem to amount to that he is a bit of a dick, and his own words and the accounts of loads of people who have worked with him seem to bear that out.

The question was whether his acting that way was detrimental to the government, which it obviously was since if he was liked more they'd have toughed it out. But ain't no one been standing up for him to the level of Braverman.

Luckyguy1983

kle4 said:

Check didn't clear?

Former Fifa president Sepp Blatter says the decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a "mistake".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63554507

Cheque

Cookie

murali_s said:

Is the US a backward Banana Republic? Discuss!

It really isn't. It's in the middle of a robust election. It may be facing a choice almost as bad as Brazil's, but you can't without hyperbole claim it's not a functioning democracy. If all the countries are listed top to bottom in order of how democratic they are it's much closer to the top than the bottom.

numbertwelve

BigRich said:

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

so what is the right ancer? PB and twitter?

From a broadcast perspective, I think it’s pretty much accepted that CNN tend to be good at assessing the trends and the numbers, and generally being on the ball with developments. You do however have to be able to stomach the ever present “liberal” bias, but then it’s the US media so partiality is everywhere.

You can never go wrong with PB though!

kle4

Luckyguy1983 said:

kle4 said:

Check didn't clear?

Former Fifa president Sepp Blatter says the decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a "mistake".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63554507

Cheque

The brain and fingers don't always work together in perfect harmony.

Alistair

Dem turnout is through the floor shit in Virginia and Florida.

kle4

Alistair said:

Dem turnout is through the floor shit in Virginia and Florida.

What does it take to motivate them?! Insurrection 2: Insurrection harder?

Alistair

These are disastrous numbers for the Dems in Florida

https://tqv.vrswebapps.com/?state=FL&county=DAD&election=838&ShowPrecinctSplits=1

SandyRentool

Just got back home from a Party meeting...

Turned on the TV...

LOL!


Rishi Rich certainly knows how to pick them.

MaxPB

kle4 said:

JosiasJessop said:

Scott_xP said:

Elon Musk's net worth slips below $200 billion as Tesla shares waver http://reut.rs/3NRnFQB https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1590063096499998730/photo/1

Forbes' real-time billionaires list is fun:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4d67f3d73d78

Why is Bezos down so much from his high?

Amazon shares are hugely down and investors are sick and tired of excuses for not making money. I think they will begin agitating for AWS to spin off into a separate company from the storefront.

ping

Bad day for bitcoin

Down 12.3%

This seems to be the trigger;

https://www.ft.com/content/8db7e24b-5a15-4856-b81e-a2027157aaad

Although the big picture, explaining the rise and fall of crypto, is surely the fed.

BigRich

Alistair said:

Dem turnout is through the floor shit in Virginia and Florida.

The plural of anecdote is not Data, but the anecdotes so fare are not looking good for Dems:

https://hotair.com/headlines/2022/11/08/democrats-have-a-turnout-problem-today-n509192

kle4

numbertwelve said:

biggles said:

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

Isn’t “US” redundant in that post? Or at least has been for about 20 years.

There is a gentle, nostalgic charm to the BBC’s UK GE coverage at least. I will admit Sky is likely superior, though in 2019 they had that odious twerp Bercow which marked them down substantially.

I didn't see it, but for a certain type of viewer I'd have thought there'd be enjoyment from watching Bercow presumably really hating the outcome of the election.

SandyRentool

Driver said:

kle4 said:

Scott_xP said:

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

Not quite, since he was not afforded full status, but close enough given he was going to be important enough to attend it.

He was supposed to be the Mandelson of this government, wasn't he?

Except it is safe to say that we didn't underestimate him.

But I'm not sure of his track record when it comes to mushy peas.

Stuartinromford

Nigel_Foremain said:

Driver said:

kle4 said:

Scott_xP said:

Gavin Williamson out of the Cabinet for the third time https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/20365372/gavin-williamson-resigns-bullying-dart-arts-mps/

Not quite, since he was not afforded full status, but close enough given he was going to be important enough to attend it.

He was supposed to be the Mandelson of this government, wasn't he?

Ah, so we have had the poundshop Churchill, the poundshop Thatcher and now we have had the poundshop Mandelson.

Forget trade deals, security co-operation and everything else...

... not being able to exile clamatious ministers to Brussels and the Commission is a huge Brexit loss.

Taz

ping said:

Bad day for bitcoin

Down 12.3%

The ‘buy the dip’ brigade will be out in full force.

Scott_xP

Trump openly threatens DeSantis > https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1590078537817808898

Alistair

Dems are being obliterated in Washoe.

Dems - 2935
GOP - 7892

That is horrendous for the Dems

ohnotnow

I feel slightly distraught that PB doesn't seem to worthy even a second-rate Russian troll as the US election kick off.

How would the BA pilots vote? We'll never know...

wooliedyed

Williamson going 'to clear his name' probably gives Sunak the standard 'wrong to prejudice ongoing process' cover tomorrow of course.

kle4

Scott_xP said:

Trump openly threatens DeSantis > https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1590078537817808898

Does DeSantis have the guts to run anyway? The track record of the party in kowtowing to bullying rhetoric is not great.

kinabalu

Cookie said:

murali_s said:

Is the US a backward Banana Republic? Discuss!

It really isn't. It's in the middle of a robust election. It may be facing a choice almost as bad as Brazil's, but you can't without hyperbole claim it's not a functioning democracy. If all the countries are listed top to bottom in order of how democratic they are it's much closer to the top than the bottom.

A third of GOP candidates are election deniers. That's pretty serious.

Scott_xP

wooliedyed said:

Williamson going 'to clear his name' probably gives Sunak the standard 'wrong to prejudice ongoing process' cover tomorrow of course.

Williamson's "value" was his power over people, which is now irretrievably lost. He can't threaten anyone with anything.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy...

kyf_100

ping said:

Bad day for bitcoin

Down 12.3%

This seems to be the trigger;

https://www.ft.com/content/8db7e24b-5a15-4856-b81e-a2027157aaad

Although the big picture is surely the fed.

Nope, it's FTX insolvency

And worth pointing out it's not really about bitcoin - it's about other cryptos (mainly ftx's own token and solana, which they have a sh*t ton of, but there is zero liquidity to sell into, making it worthless if you actually try to sell it - btc doesn't have that kind of liquidity problem).

SandyRentool

The cherry on the cake is the fact that none of us is exactly sure what job Williamson has actually resigned from.

Scott_xP

From education secretary to minister without portfolio to resigned (again). From teacher to kid who forgot homework to expelled. You absolutely love to see it.

https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1590080508540882944

turbotubbs

kle4 said:

numbertwelve said:

biggles said:

numbertwelve said:

A reminder for those who may be uninitiated in following US election coverage, or who may be coming back to it with fuzzy memories.

“I am going to go for the BBC coverage” is never an acceptable thought to have.

Isn’t “US” redundant in that post? Or at least has been for about 20 years.

There is a gentle, nostalgic charm to the BBC’s UK GE coverage at least. I will admit Sky is likely superior, though in 2019 they had that odious twerp Bercow which marked them down substantially.

I didn't see it, but for a certain type of viewer I'd have thought there'd be enjoyment from watching Bercow presumably really hating the outcome of the election.

I’ve never understood why on election nights the BBC, Sky and ITV have different seat totals. Surely you update when a declaration is made? So why are they different?

Northern_Al

Bye bye Gavin. Sunak has written a response to Gav's resignation letter:

Dear Gav,
Thanks for resigning. I've absolutely no idea why I gave you a job in the first place, as everybody knows a) you're a complete shit and b) you're rubbish at any job you're given. But hey ho, everybody makes mistakes (especially me).
Don't darken my door again - though I suspect you will.
Cheers,
Rishi
PS Suella sends her love.

TheScreamingEagles

Phew my Ben Wallace as next out the cabinet tip is still live.

wooliedyed

Alistair said:

Dems are being obliterated in Washoe.

Dems - 2935
GOP - 7892

That is horrendous for the Dems

Early data out of Maricopa pretty bleak for them too. Going to be a lonnnnnnng old night for Democrats

Chris

stodge said:

Scott_xP said:

That Gavin Williamson ministerial record in full:

Sacked as defence secretary for leaking from National Security Council.
Sacked as education secretary over A-level exam chaos.
Resigns as Cabinet Office minister after 2 weeks over bullying texts.

https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1590077447273607168

He is apparently going to clear his name.

Perhaps he can use the "sword of truth", though I don't know who has it at present?

Last seen being used as a toothpick by Boris Johnson.

kle4

Still showing - best call up the out of office website updater

https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers

Edit: Also from that page, John Glen is the only minister of Cabinet (or attending Cabinet) who is not the 'Rt Honourable'.

wooliedyed

Scott_xP said:

wooliedyed said:

Williamson going 'to clear his name' probably gives Sunak the standard 'wrong to prejudice ongoing process' cover tomorrow of course.

Williamson's "value" was his power over people, which is now irretrievably lost. He can't threaten anyone with anything.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy...

He does seem something of a shitbag

kinabalu

Talk about coincidence - Depp has just appeared on my tv in a scent ad. Not sporting that "hard party grandma" look as it happens. More his usual edgy jack tar.

TheKitchenCabinet

Alistair said:

Dems are being obliterated in Washoe.

Dems - 2935
GOP - 7892

That is horrendous for the Dems

Clark is not great for them either. Ralston looking more as though he is calling it for GOP.

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1590082374674501633

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1590075685070024704

Scott_xP

Laugh all you want, but who’s going to do something nonspecific related to the GREAT Campaign and something something cross government basis now, eh?

https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/1590082804880400384

TheScreamingEagles

Yesterday's John Oliver means Trump is becoming POTUS in 2025 even if the Dems win.

The day America died.

Scott_xP

kinabalu said:

Talk about coincidence - Depp has just appeared on my tv in a scent ad. Not sporting that "hard party grandma" look as it happens. More his usual edgy jack tar.

Is that ad not 10 years old though?