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Normal politics will resume after the funeral – politicalbetting.com
Normal politics will resume after the funeral – politicalbetting.com
The death of the Queen yesterday is a massive moment in just about all of our lives and it is going to dominate everything until after the funeral.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62847191
Luckily for her she also got her plans for an energy bill cap in before the news broke
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Although the deed is done (ie everything's cancelled) CIII should include in his speech this evening an entreaty that everyone should go out and get on with their normal lives and enjoy their friends, family, etc as it would be far better for everyone and a more fitting tribute to his mother than to be deprived of their chosen activities for a reason no one can yet put their finger on.
But I was listening to the radio on the way back from an appointment, and had to pull over as I started uncontrollably blubbing. Odd.
This really shines a spotlight on how the constitution works. Harman's speech was very enlightening.
I think the tories are going to need to be very careful about how they sell that one though.
British voters these days want cheap gas without fracking near them, just as they want great public services with low taxes, lots of new property but no development where they live, low government debt but lots of spending, and free speech but censorship of opinions they disagree with.
To change to George or Arthur or Louise at this juncture would be ludicrous. Everyone's calling him it now.
PS. The weather was better under the Queen.
Haven't blubbed yet for either but I did shed a tear for that German tourist who will be much missed.
I guess the Palace needed to know and be prepared in advance what he was going to call himself for such circumstances.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-legc/
Only after that will normal politics fully return
And then they apply for a passport. Or drive a car whilst black. Or....or....
Football going to look a little bit odd.
But a little more civility, a little more attempt at discussion and debate, would improve political skills, discourse and development.
ETA: is it "respect" but how is not doing an activity a mark of respect. Genuinely interested.
There was a wonderful anecdote on R5L earlier. A nine-year old German girl from Munich visited London a few decades ago, and was rather taken by Buckingham Palace. when she got home, she wrote to the Queen, saying how she loved the palace and wished they could meet sometime. A few weeks later, she got a big parcel from Buckingham Palace containing a load of stuff, including a teach-yourself-English book and souvenirs. When the girl was 14, she moved to London and has lived there ever since.
https://www.greatriverrace.org.uk
For those who don't know - it's not really a "racing" race. More of an endurance thing. So turning it into a memorial procession will not throw away all of the hard work people have put in preparing.
If so good for him.
It's about the one thing I can see solving the housing crisis.
The St Leger is now on for Sunday, so it looks like horse racing will resume.
For many people the Queen was emotionally like a Grandmother. Our kids saw the news with us and said unprompted that they were sad the Queen died and that it reminded them of the death of [my] Nanna recently. Again this morning they were talking about it.
What people do after a death is up to them, people react differently. Some people like to postpone things, others don't. The FA have made their choice, that's their responsibility and their right to do so. Other sports have made their choice, again that's their responsibility and their right.
So long as nobody is mandating others can't do what they want to do, there's not an issue. If anyone wants to play football this weekend they can, it just won't be under the banner of the FA if they do.
8 f****** am?!
Even if you are an ardent republican or you live in Italy or Argentina and expect to be unbothered you might well be bothered. Because she was such an enormous figure, and a source of stability for hundreds of millions around the globe. Whatever was wrong with the world, whatever horrors unfolded, the Queen was in her Palace. With her corgis. That never changed and has never changed for as long as nearly all of us have lived
Now gone.
This one is just extremely odd. We're showing respect by not telling you the weather!
All RL as planned.
RU postponed tonight. Will go ahead Saturday and Sunday.
Bristol v Bath moved to Saturday from tonight.
Cos Bristol City don't need the ground!
https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20220909-about-bc-news-Guidance-for-the-period-of-National-Mourning-0
A series of five Tests, finishing in August, in a season including the visitors having a leisurely tour of the more agreeable county grounds sounds a decent way of spending the summer.
Any legal eagles want to comment?
Not sure whether that would be respectful or disrespectful?
This could be a good thing. A clean break from the Johnson days and a completely new start for Truss.
If Truss or any of her ministers try to use the Coronation as an excuse for delaying decision making or getting on with running the country then they deserve to be hounded from office.
Nonsense. Its most important role is to retain power and enrich its members and donors. You'll be thrown out for pinko stuff like that.
https://www.courts.michigan.gov/4a5828/siteassets/case-documents/briefs/msc/2022-2023/164760/164760-2022-09-08-or.pdf
...Seven hundred fifty three thousand and seven hundred fifty nine Michiganders signed this proposal—more than have ever signed any proposal in Michigan’s history. The challengers have not produced a single signer who claims to have been confused by the limited-spacing sections in the full text portion of the proposal. Yet two members of the Board of State Canvassers would prevent the people of Michigan from voting on the proposal because they believe that the decreased spacing makes the text no longer “[t]he full text.” That is, even though there is no dispute that every word appears and appears legibly and in the correct order, and there is no evidence that anyone was confused about the text, two members of the Board of State Canvassers with the power to do so would keep the petition from the voters for what they purport to be a technical violation of the statute. They would disenfranchise millions of Michiganders not because they believe the many thousands of Michiganders who signed the proposal were confused by it, but because they think they have identified a technicality that allows them to do so, a game of gotcha gone very bad....
I may be wrong, we will find out 21 Sept
It's a new team. They aren't even playing other teams yet; they're just training.
I cannot imagine any of the players, or the coaches, want to cancel it.
Can this really be what the queen would have wanted? Can this really be what Charles would want?
Surprising then, that they are making such vast sums of money that some want windfall taxes on those profits.
I suspect that the idea of the country carrying on as normal as if nothing had happened other than an old lady dying - for all it might please the republicans - would rightly upset a huge number of people.
For the last 30 years I have run two large events/trade shows a year which have several thousand people attending them. We have always had a reserve of at least one event's worth of costs in place in case of an unforeseen event which prevents us going ahead. We could imagine many scenarios that might cause this to happen but the most obvious one was the Queen dying. We never imagined that we would go ahead with an event if the Queen had died just a few days before.
*Hopefully not his own one, but a doll's size one. But still didn't get much of his money back.
Seems impossible to enforce.
I'm sure it is impossible to enforce. Fucking daft nonetheless.
Even my mother in law - who takes an interest in the royal family, watches royal weddings, etc - thinks things have gone way over the top.
On the other hand, sovereigns don't die every week, and, like spelling, grammar and punctuation, it's arguably better to err on the more conservative and old-fashioned side.
The regular O&G companies which are making all that money have more sense than to invest in fracking.
“Pro-Russian mapmakers tracking the fighting around Kharkiv are showing a really significant problem for Russia unfolding rapidly.”
https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1568216432072073217?s=46&t=fqdL0K9NxkSTGjHlnCTk_A
A Russian army in danger of encirclement? Or Ukrainian overstretch?
Which is what the rest of us should be doing. Not all this cancellation nonsense. By all means pay tribute, have minutes' silences etc but there is no reason for everything to go into suspended animation. Those preparing the funeral are doing their job and will do it magnificently I expect. The rest of us can do ours, including the politicians.
The energy bills aren't going to go away. We need to understand the plan announced yesterday and what it means for us all and how it is to be paid for. The Queen's death should not mean that the government avoids scrutiny or challenge. There are plenty of other issues which are not going to wait until the funeral or the coronation or whatever.
Nothing will more undermine support for a monarchy than claims that the proper functioning of government including all the tough bits which the executive may not like are somehow disrespectful to a dead monarch, especially one who made service and duty her calling card.
None of this stops people mourning or feeling sad or whatever. But often at a time of change or sadness it is the routines of daily life and the fact that you still have responsibilities to others which can provide structure and help, a scaffolding to stop grief overwhelming. That applies to people. And countries too.
The funeral will be a day to stop and remember and honour. But we don't need to turn into a catatonic state between now and then or even afterwards. I hope we don't anyway.