Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Well they had Tom Daley come in with flagbearers with rainbow LGBT flags representing the Commonwealth nations where homosexuality is illegal, which while I have no problem with the sentiment will go down like a lead balloon in the nations concerned.
Then they had Max Whitlock coming in accompanied by a mental health message, which again while I have little problem with the sentiment was somewhat out of place.
Anyway Prince Charles has now finally opened it followed by the Birmingham Bull
"It reveals senior executives at the council spent £2.8m on consultants with little local government experience to guide a management restructuring that was supposed to deliver £4m of savings. The ill-fated plan, launched at the height of lockdown, instead ran up costs of £1m and left the council shorn of key staff.
The scheme was “totally unfit for purpose and resulted in the speedy destruction of officer capacity and competence with many remaining individuals now in posts they had no experience in and whole teams being made redundant which were essential to delivery of statutory services”, the report says.
The commissioners’ report says many of the posts that were eliminated under the plan are now having to be re-created. There is just one permanent senior director in place at the council, which is highly dependent on agency staff, not least in children’s services, which has been under special measures for eight years."
As a resident of Bracknell Forest, this makes me a bit nervous as a possible solution for the Government is to do some council mergers and fob them off on someone else. All the Berkshire unitaries are on the small side so you could easily merge 6 into 2 or 3. RBWM has also had some issues lately due to parking revenues drying up in Windsor during the pandemic.
Personally I would stick Slough back in Bucks as that contains most of the wealthy hinterland - Burnham Beeches, Farnham Royal, Stoke Poges
Put Slough back into Bucks, and the Vale of White Horse back into Berks.
Anything else is vandalism.
These are strongly held opinions for someone not actually born in England!
I'm fond of the historical counties. I can see various sides of the argument for what the right units of local government are - but I want to be able to say something is in Lanashire without then having to define Lancashire, or be able to ask how many top flight football teams have had their home grounds in Cheshire. I want subdivisions of the country which are immutable. There is an argument for tying units which people identify with to local government, but also an argument for reflecting modern economic geography.
Growing up in Herefordshire, I can still just about remember the incendiary anger when Ted Heath's government created "Hereford and Worcestershire". A hybrid abomination which was loathed on both sides of the Malverns, but especially in Hereford - a noble, antique cathedral shire city - which was suddenly just a "city" and all the admin moved to Worcester, along with multiple educational and other closures
It stoked long term hatred of the Tories which lasted decades
Why do idiot civil servants do this shit? Why? Herefordshire is clearly, culturally, historically, geographically, quite different to Worcs. These differences might not matter to wankers in Whitehall, but they matter on the ground. And they mattered to many peoples' jobs, as it happened
Caught the end, Liz was good. Her sense of humour is just a bit 'daggy' as Australians would have it. Warmed to her. Definitely prefer her to Rishi and hope she wins.
Days being the excrement clumped in the wool around a sheep’s arse ?
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
"It reveals senior executives at the council spent £2.8m on consultants with little local government experience to guide a management restructuring that was supposed to deliver £4m of savings. The ill-fated plan, launched at the height of lockdown, instead ran up costs of £1m and left the council shorn of key staff.
The scheme was “totally unfit for purpose and resulted in the speedy destruction of officer capacity and competence with many remaining individuals now in posts they had no experience in and whole teams being made redundant which were essential to delivery of statutory services”, the report says.
The commissioners’ report says many of the posts that were eliminated under the plan are now having to be re-created. There is just one permanent senior director in place at the council, which is highly dependent on agency staff, not least in children’s services, which has been under special measures for eight years."
As a resident of Bracknell Forest, this makes me a bit nervous as a possible solution for the Government is to do some council mergers and fob them off on someone else. All the Berkshire unitaries are on the small side so you could easily merge 6 into 2 or 3. RBWM has also had some issues lately due to parking revenues drying up in Windsor during the pandemic.
Personally I would stick Slough back in Bucks as that contains most of the wealthy hinterland - Burnham Beeches, Farnham Royal, Stoke Poges
Put Slough back into Bucks, and the Vale of White Horse back into Berks.
Anything else is vandalism.
These are strongly held opinions for someone not actually born in England!
I'm fond of the historical counties. I can see various sides of the argument for what the right units of local government are - but I want to be able to say something is in Lanashire without then having to define Lancashire, or be able to ask how many top flight football teams have had their home grounds in Cheshire. I want subdivisions of the country which are immutable. There is an argument for tying units which people identify with to local government, but also an argument for reflecting modern economic geography.
Growing up in Herefordshire, I can still just about remember the incendiary anger when Ted Heath's government created "Hereford and Worcestershire". A hybrid abomination which was loathed on both sides of the Malverns, but especially in Hereford - a noble, antique cathedral shire city - which was suddenly just a "city" and all the admin moved to Worcester, along with multiple educational and other closures
It stoked long term hatred of the Tories which lasted decades
Why do idiot civil servants do this shit? Why? Herefordshire is clearly, culturally, historically, geographically, quite different to Worcs. These differences might not matter to wankers in Whitehall, but they matter on the ground. And they mattered to many peoples' jobs, as it happened
Her-Wor?
sounds like a list of preferred pronouns on a halifax name badge
Should have stood himself, anyway I am behind Rishi now so his endorsement holds no weight with me
Have you considered the possibility you are a tiny bit out of tune with your fellow Tory members?
You've supported losers all the way: Wallace, then Tugendhat, now Sunak
No one wants them. Wallace obviously wasn't up to it, notice how he only opts for Truss now it is obvious she is going to win. Like Italy deciding which side to support in a World War
Well if and when Liz loses the next general election I don't have a problem being proved right, if on the upside she wins happy to be proved wrong
Developers may be prevented from starting projects in west London until 2035 because the electricity grid has run out of capacity to power new homes.
The Greater London Authority (GLA) told developers this week that it may take more than a decade for grid capacity to be increased to sustain new developments in Hillingdon, Ealing and Hounslow.
The boroughs accounted for about 11 per cent of London’s housing supply in 2019-20.
That's interesting. On the whole demand has been reducing in many places for years.
With demand being higher from older houses which are less energy efficient, I'd perhaps investigate introduce a practice of apply a condition of reducing demand or providing local generation where suitable from the existing stock enough to create space for the new ones they want to build.
May be surprisingly possible.
Unlikely while older houses are less energy efficient the are usually heated by gas which isn’t the issue here
"It reveals senior executives at the council spent £2.8m on consultants with little local government experience to guide a management restructuring that was supposed to deliver £4m of savings. The ill-fated plan, launched at the height of lockdown, instead ran up costs of £1m and left the council shorn of key staff.
The scheme was “totally unfit for purpose and resulted in the speedy destruction of officer capacity and competence with many remaining individuals now in posts they had no experience in and whole teams being made redundant which were essential to delivery of statutory services”, the report says.
The commissioners’ report says many of the posts that were eliminated under the plan are now having to be re-created. There is just one permanent senior director in place at the council, which is highly dependent on agency staff, not least in children’s services, which has been under special measures for eight years."
As a resident of Bracknell Forest, this makes me a bit nervous as a possible solution for the Government is to do some council mergers and fob them off on someone else. All the Berkshire unitaries are on the small side so you could easily merge 6 into 2 or 3. RBWM has also had some issues lately due to parking revenues drying up in Windsor during the pandemic.
Personally I would stick Slough back in Bucks as that contains most of the wealthy hinterland - Burnham Beeches, Farnham Royal, Stoke Poges
Put Slough back into Bucks, and the Vale of White Horse back into Berks.
Anything else is vandalism.
These are strongly held opinions for someone not actually born in England!
I'm fond of the historical counties. I can see various sides of the argument for what the right units of local government are - but I want to be able to say something is in Lanashire without then having to define Lancashire, or be able to ask how many top flight football teams have had their home grounds in Cheshire. I want subdivisions of the country which are immutable. There is an argument for tying units which people identify with to local government, but also an argument for reflecting modern economic geography.
Growing up in Herefordshire, I can still just about remember the incendiary anger when Ted Heath's government created "Hereford and Worcestershire". A hybrid abomination which was loathed on both sides of the Malverns, but especially in Hereford - a noble, antique cathedral shire city - which was suddenly just a "city" and all the admin moved to Worcester, along with multiple educational and other closures
It stoked long term hatred of the Tories which lasted decades
Why do idiot civil servants do this shit? Why? Herefordshire is clearly, culturally, historically, geographically, quite different to Worcs. These differences might not matter to wankers in Whitehall, but they matter on the ground. And they mattered to many peoples' jobs, as it happened
Perhaps why Hereford went to the LDs for a long time.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Well they had Tom Daley come in with flagbearers with rainbow LGBT flags representing the Commonwealth nations where homosexuality is illegal, which while I have no problem with the sentiment will go down like a lead balloon in the nations concerned.
Ooof. That's a bit on the nose for 'the friendly games'.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
So post WW1, Sunak is at best the fourth most northern chancellor?
Does Scotland count as Northern?
It did when I were a lad. Of course, in or post-modern world where subjective and playful statements are to be regarded as being as valid as scientific knowledge, who knows? Also we are assuming the UK as a frame of reference.
"It reveals senior executives at the council spent £2.8m on consultants with little local government experience to guide a management restructuring that was supposed to deliver £4m of savings. The ill-fated plan, launched at the height of lockdown, instead ran up costs of £1m and left the council shorn of key staff.
The scheme was “totally unfit for purpose and resulted in the speedy destruction of officer capacity and competence with many remaining individuals now in posts they had no experience in and whole teams being made redundant which were essential to delivery of statutory services”, the report says.
The commissioners’ report says many of the posts that were eliminated under the plan are now having to be re-created. There is just one permanent senior director in place at the council, which is highly dependent on agency staff, not least in children’s services, which has been under special measures for eight years."
As a resident of Bracknell Forest, this makes me a bit nervous as a possible solution for the Government is to do some council mergers and fob them off on someone else. All the Berkshire unitaries are on the small side so you could easily merge 6 into 2 or 3. RBWM has also had some issues lately due to parking revenues drying up in Windsor during the pandemic.
Personally I would stick Slough back in Bucks as that contains most of the wealthy hinterland - Burnham Beeches, Farnham Royal, Stoke Poges
Put Slough back into Bucks, and the Vale of White Horse back into Berks.
Anything else is vandalism.
These are strongly held opinions for someone not actually born in England!
I'm fond of the historical counties. I can see various sides of the argument for what the right units of local government are - but I want to be able to say something is in Lanashire without then having to define Lancashire, or be able to ask how many top flight football teams have had their home grounds in Cheshire. I want subdivisions of the country which are immutable. There is an argument for tying units which people identify with to local government, but also an argument for reflecting modern economic geography.
Growing up in Herefordshire, I can still just about remember the incendiary anger when Ted Heath's government created "Hereford and Worcestershire". A hybrid abomination which was loathed on both sides of the Malverns, but especially in Hereford - a noble, antique cathedral shire city - which was suddenly just a "city" and all the admin moved to Worcester, along with multiple educational and other closures
It stoked long term hatred of the Tories which lasted decades
Why do idiot civil servants do this shit? Why? Herefordshire is clearly, culturally, historically, geographically, quite different to Worcs. These differences might not matter to wankers in Whitehall, but they matter on the ground. And they mattered to many peoples' jobs, as it happened
Perhaps why Hereford went to the LDs for a long time.
Yes, almost certainly a contributing factor. Obvious Tories were incensed
What is conservative about destroying an ancient English county, dating back to 700AD?
Hereford means "army ford" - a place to cross the Wye, for the Anglo Saxon army. Hereford is one of the most obviously Anglo-Saxon counties in the UK. It is proud of this
It has FUCK ALL to do with Worcestershire
Crikey, even now it can make me angry! Ted Heath was a c*nt in so many ways
Nadine Dorries tells BBC News: “We haven’t had a sporting event like this in the UK since the 2012 Olympics” as she welcomes the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
Nadine Dorries tells BBC News: “We haven’t had a sporting event like this in the UK since the 2012 Olympics” as she welcomes the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
Well, as I was saying only a moment ago, the Tories don't think Scotland is part of the UK. What with Mr Sunak claiming to be the northernistismost Chancellor.
Great call - though you did hedge a little: … and Truss ranks alongside Crabb, Hammond, Morgan, Harper, Soubry, Stewart, Truss, & Fallon for the longer-shot who may offer value at the bookmakers…
Not sure why we are following America in going down the road to televised trials (first televised sentencing today) - I cannot think of one benefit but like all "reality TV shows" it will end in people playing to the camera not justice
Nadine Dorries tells BBC News: “We haven’t had a sporting event like this in the UK since the 2012 Olympics” as she welcomes the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
You mean, the work camps known as "slave plantations"? Not so many, but that was not for want of trying.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
Nadine Dorries tells BBC News: “We haven’t had a sporting event like this in the UK since the 2012 Olympics” as she welcomes the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
Great call - though you did hedge a little: … and Truss ranks alongside Crabb, Hammond, Morgan, Harper, Soubry, Stewart, Truss, & Fallon for the longer-shot who may offer value at the bookmakers…
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
"On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British"
But this is basically untrue, and provably untrue, as I have told you countless times
The largest slavers of Africans were Muslims, and it went on for much longer (and was finally stopped by the British Empire)
The Brits have a complex history with slavery, some of it utterly shameful (the slavery), some of it noble (the abolition). There is no need to make up shit
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Well they had Tom Daley come in with flagbearers with rainbow LGBT flags representing the Commonwealth nations where homosexuality is illegal, which while I have no problem with the sentiment will go down like a lead balloon in the nations concerned.
Ooof. That's a bit on the nose for 'the friendly games'.
Joe Lycett got a dig in on HM Government too while on stage, broadcast across the Commonwealth.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Tom Daly and the flags of countries where homosexuality is still illegal. Small snippet in 2 h 20 min...
# yes very rude to countries competing I would think as a host - You dont invite guests to your home and make a protest at their views as they walk in
Indeed, as if the Commonwealth hasn't got enough problems at the moment maintaining unity.
Pressure in private fine, humiliation of some member nations in the opening ceremony no
The thing is somebody like Tom Daly already has an absolute massive platform. He can lobby, campaign, pressure and will get huge exposure anytime he wishes to make a statement. Does he need to do that then and there? Its not quite the same as somebody who lives in an oppressive regime (or will be totally ignored otherwise) and there only chance ever to make a protest statement when they are at a foreign games.
I wonder if part of the success of Marcus Rashford campaign (driven his very well connected agent, Kelly Hogarth) was that he kept that campaign outside of the time he was actually on the pitch.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
I said the British, not the British Empire.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
I said the British, not the British Empire.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
What bit of that is wrong?
The bit where you say the British were the worst (amongst many other things)
"Two rough estimates by scholars of the numbers of just one group - black slaves held over twelve centuries in the Muslim world - are 11.5 million[6] and 14 million,[7][8] while other estimates indicate a number between 12 and 15 million African slaves prior to the 20th century.[9]"
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
Let me start by saying slavery is of course abhorrent and wrong.
However the slave trade was not "largely at the hand of the British" It has existed for hundred, infact thousands of years throughout Africa and throughout the world. Even if you look at the Trans-Atlantic slave trade circa 75% of the slave trade did not involve the British at all.
A very commonly forgotten fact is that slaves were most often not rounded up and kidnapped by the British but regularly bought from the African Kingdoms engaging in slave trade as they had for many hundred of years.
This notion that slavery was all Britain's fault is a gross rewriting of history. There are currently over 30 millions slaves living in the world right this day, in comparison the trans Atlantic slave trade combining every European empire, African kingdoms and the Americas over 400 years totalled 12.7 million (12.7 million too many of course), but really puts it into perspective.
"It reveals senior executives at the council spent £2.8m on consultants with little local government experience to guide a management restructuring that was supposed to deliver £4m of savings. The ill-fated plan, launched at the height of lockdown, instead ran up costs of £1m and left the council shorn of key staff.
The scheme was “totally unfit for purpose and resulted in the speedy destruction of officer capacity and competence with many remaining individuals now in posts they had no experience in and whole teams being made redundant which were essential to delivery of statutory services”, the report says.
The commissioners’ report says many of the posts that were eliminated under the plan are now having to be re-created. There is just one permanent senior director in place at the council, which is highly dependent on agency staff, not least in children’s services, which has been under special measures for eight years."
As a resident of Bracknell Forest, this makes me a bit nervous as a possible solution for the Government is to do some council mergers and fob them off on someone else. All the Berkshire unitaries are on the small side so you could easily merge 6 into 2 or 3. RBWM has also had some issues lately due to parking revenues drying up in Windsor during the pandemic.
Personally I would stick Slough back in Bucks as that contains most of the wealthy hinterland - Burnham Beeches, Farnham Royal, Stoke Poges
Put Slough back into Bucks, and the Vale of White Horse back into Berks.
Anything else is vandalism.
These are strongly held opinions for someone not actually born in England!
I'm fond of the historical counties. I can see various sides of the argument for what the right units of local government are - but I want to be able to say something is in Lanashire without then having to define Lancashire, or be able to ask how many top flight football teams have had their home grounds in Cheshire. I want subdivisions of the country which are immutable. There is an argument for tying units which people identify with to local government, but also an argument for reflecting modern economic geography.
Growing up in Herefordshire, I can still just about remember the incendiary anger when Ted Heath's government created "Hereford and Worcestershire". A hybrid abomination which was loathed on both sides of the Malverns, but especially in Hereford - a noble, antique cathedral shire city - which was suddenly just a "city" and all the admin moved to Worcester, along with multiple educational and other closures
It stoked long term hatred of the Tories which lasted decades
Why do idiot civil servants do this shit? Why? Herefordshire is clearly, culturally, historically, geographically, quite different to Worcs. These differences might not matter to wankers in Whitehall, but they matter on the ground. And they mattered to many peoples' jobs, as it happened
Perhaps why Hereford went to the LDs for a long time.
Yes, almost certainly a contributing factor. Obvious Tories were incensed
What is conservative about destroying an ancient English county, dating back to 700AD?
Hereford means "army ford" - a place to cross the Wye, for the Anglo Saxon army. Hereford is one of the most obviously Anglo-Saxon counties in the UK. It is proud of this
It has FUCK ALL to do with Worcestershire
Crikey, even now it can make me angry! Ted Heath was a c*nt in so many ways
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
"On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British"
But this is basically untrue, and provably untrue, as I have told you countless times
The largest slavers of Africans were Muslims, and it went on for much longer (and was finally stopped by the British Empire)
The Brits have a complex history with slavery, some of it utterly shameful (the slavery), some of it noble (the abolition). There is no need to make up shit
So fucking what? Why does muslim slaving alter the case against Britain? Do you mitigate Fred West's crimes because Harold Shipton outperformed him?
And if I kick 60 old ladies to death, and then resolve to spare the last three and stop everybody else from kicking them to death too, really how "complex" is my relationship with old lady kicking?
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Tom Daly and the flags of countries where homosexuality is still illegal. Small snippet in 2 h 20 min...
# yes very rude to countries competing I would think as a host - You dont invite guests to your home and make a protest at their views as they walk in
Indeed, as if the Commonwealth hasn't got enough problems at the moment maintaining unity.
Pressure in private fine, humiliation of some member nations in the opening ceremony no
The thing is somebody like Tom Daly already has an absolute massive platform. He can lobby, campaign, pressure and will get huge exposure anytime he wishes to make a statement. Does he need to do that then and there? Its not quite the same as somebody who lives in an oppressive regime (or will be totally ignored otherwise) and there only chance ever to make a protest statement when they are at a foreign games.
I wonder if part of the success of Marcus Rashford campaign (driven his very well connected agent, Kelly Hogarth) was that he kept that campaign outside of the time he was actually on the pitch.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Tom Daly and the flags of countries where homosexuality is still illegal. Small snippet in 2 h 20 min...
# yes very rude to countries competing I would think as a host - You dont invite guests to your home and make a protest at their views as they walk in
Indeed, as if the Commonwealth hasn't got enough problems at the moment maintaining unity.
Pressure in private fine, humiliation of some member nations in the opening ceremony no
The thing is somebody like Tom Daly already has an absolute massive platform. He can lobby, campaign, pressure and will get huge exposure anytime he wishes to make a statement. Does he need to do that then and there? Its not quite the same as somebody who lives in an oppressive regime (or will be totally ignored otherwise) and there only chance ever to make a protest statement when they are at a foreign games.
I wonder if part of the success of Marcus Rashford campaign (driven his very well connected agent, Kelly Hogarth) was that he kept that campaign outside of the time he was actually on the pitch.
Can we just get Truss up to Balmoral to kiss the hands and so on?
Some people are on the pitch!....I think one of them Ben Wallace.....he is heading straight for Rishi Sunak, he's only gone and kicked in the bollocks....They think it's all over!...It is now.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
"On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British"
But this is basically untrue, and provably untrue, as I have told you countless times
The largest slavers of Africans were Muslims, and it went on for much longer (and was finally stopped by the British Empire)
The Brits have a complex history with slavery, some of it utterly shameful (the slavery), some of it noble (the abolition). There is no need to make up shit
So fucking what? Why does muslim slaving alter the case against Britain? Do you mitigate Fred West's crimes because Harold Shipton outperformed him?
And if I kick 60 old ladies to death, and then resolve to spare the last three and stop everybody else from kicking them to death too, really how "complex" is my relationship with old lady kicking?
Not so much resolving to spare the last three as being bribed with very large sums of public money to let them go, too.
Quite easy to do, probably needs a bit more heat (it's an American recipe), and a delicious, tasty variation on an Asian coconut fish curry. More lime and astringency, less sweetness, and totes yum
Had it with basmati/wild rice and a flash fried, garlicky cavolo nero
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Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
I said the British, not the British Empire.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
What bit of that is wrong?
So no, the British Empire did not pursue extermination camps on Blacks, thanks for the confirmation.
I notice you also completely ignored the 20,000 Royal Navy sailors who lost their lives helping to eradicate slavery
Quite easy to do, probably needs a bit more heat (it's an American recipe), and a delicious, tasty variation on an Asian coconut fish curry. More lime and astringency, less sweetness, and totes yum
Had it with basmati/wild rice and a flash fried, garlicky cavolo nero
What a tenuous link to cook bragging - well done chef!
black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims.
Can we just get Truss up to Balmoral to kiss the hands and so on?
i presume that it will be the first time a monarch and PM share a first name?
Except, amusingly, Truss' first name is Mary and Elizabeth is a middle name, while HMQ is unusual among British monarchs in using her first name as her regnal name.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
I said the British, not the British Empire.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
What bit of that is wrong?
So no, the British Empire did not pursue extermination camps on Blacks, thanks for the confirmation.
I notice you also completely ignored the 20,000 Royal Navy sailors who lost their lives helping to eradicate slavery
He didn't say the British Empire. You did. So you're claiming a completely futile and nonexistent debating point.
You might also like to contemplate how half the children of the Boer Republics died in the camps in South Africa.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Tom Daly and the flags of countries where homosexuality is still illegal. Small snippet in 2 h 20 min...
# yes very rude to countries competing I would think as a host - You dont invite guests to your home and make a protest at their views as they walk in
Indeed, as if the Commonwealth hasn't got enough problems at the moment maintaining unity.
Pressure in private fine, humiliation of some member nations in the opening ceremony no
I doubt the Queen will be happy
I expect the Queen will be privately furious, the aftermath of the above in the nations mentioned in the Commonwealth could make this week's Lambeth Conference of the Anglican Communion look like a model of harmony
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
"On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British"
But this is basically untrue, and provably untrue, as I have told you countless times
The largest slavers of Africans were Muslims, and it went on for much longer (and was finally stopped by the British Empire)
The Brits have a complex history with slavery, some of it utterly shameful (the slavery), some of it noble (the abolition). There is no need to make up shit
So fucking what? Why does muslim slaving alter the case against Britain? Do you mitigate Fred West's crimes because Harold Shipton outperformed him?
And if I kick 60 old ladies to death, and then resolve to spare the last three and stop everybody else from kicking them to death too, really how "complex" is my relationship with old lady kicking?
I'm saying you are factually wrong, you weird Woke foxhunting Tory, and facts matter
It's great that late in life you have become agitated by imperial crimes - they certainly exist - but you need to ground your anger in history, not drunken emotion, and you need to realise the context, which matters. EVERY dominant society enslaved people from 2000BC-1900AD
But if pointless boozed-up tragic guilt-wanking gets you off, knock yerself out
Is he the most northerly? Ramsay MacDonald was never CofE.
He beats Healey but Healey beat Sunak surely as he was brought up in Yorkshire as well as being an MP for Leeds.
Gordon Brown.
Also Iain Macleod (a very distant relative of mine, born Skipton) briefly, and Darling, though born in London I believe.
Norman Lamont, born in Lerwick.
Tbf. That's tough to beat. Nanuk of the North? Or Santa? Mind you. Who knows who'll be in Liz's Cabinet?
She will surely choose a Cabinet utilising natural talents?
Come to think of it Santa Claus would be perfect as the next Liz Truss Chancellor. He'll unload his sack. And you won't have any nasty financial consequences.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
I said the British, not the British Empire.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
What bit of that is wrong?
So no, the British Empire did not pursue extermination camps on Blacks, thanks for the confirmation.
I notice you also completely ignored the 20,000 Royal Navy sailors who lost their lives helping to eradicate slavery
He didn't say the British Empire. You did. So you're claiming a completely futile and nonexistent debating point.
You might also like to contemplate how half the children of the Boer Republics died in the camps in South Africa.
None of the camps Boers died in were extermination camps and it was the middle of the Boer War in which thousands of British were also killed by male Boers.
Of course the descendants of those Boers then pursued apartheid when they ran South Africa
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
Let me start by saying slavery is of course abhorrent and wrong.
However the slave trade was not "largely at the hand of the British" It has existed for hundred, infact thousands of years throughout Africa and throughout the world. Even if you look at the Trans-Atlantic slave trade circa 75% of the slave trade did not involve the British at all.
A very commonly forgotten fact is that slaves were most often not rounded up and kidnapped by the British but regularly bought from the African Kingdoms engaging in slave trade as they had for many hundred of years.
This notion that slavery was all Britain's fault is a gross rewriting of history. There are currently over 30 millions slaves living in the world right this day, in comparison the trans Atlantic slave trade combining every European empire, African kingdoms and the Americas over 400 years totalled 12.7 million (12.7 million too many of course), but really puts it into perspective.
Fuck off. I didn't say it was "all" Britain's fault. Again, you are like Fred West saying Oooh, I suppose you are trying to lay every single murder since Cain and Abel at my door?
Slavery had not existed in Britain for so long before the Atlantic trade got under way, that actually you would have a much stronger argument in favour of reinstating slavery today on the basis of the historical precedent of the triangular trade, than they had then.
Economics has a demand side. How would your "African Kingdoms" have engaged in a slave trade without willing buyers?
and why do your arguments not apply to the holocaust? Europe has always had a rich history of pogroms, there's biblical precedents for the mass deportations of Jews, so let's put things in perspective shall we? How do those arguments differ from yours?
Can we just get Truss up to Balmoral to kiss the hands and so on?
i presume that it will be the first time a monarch and PM share a first name?
Except, amusingly, Truss' first name is Mary and Elizabeth is a middle name, while HMQ is unusual among British monarchs in using her first name as her regnal name.
And following quite a tradition of PM's not being known by theirs.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
I mistyped. It was about LGB rights, so you can relax now.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
"On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British"
But this is basically untrue, and provably untrue, as I have told you countless times
The largest slavers of Africans were Muslims, and it went on for much longer (and was finally stopped by the British Empire)
The Brits have a complex history with slavery, some of it utterly shameful (the slavery), some of it noble (the abolition). There is no need to make up shit
So fucking what? Why does muslim slaving alter the case against Britain? Do you mitigate Fred West's crimes because Harold Shipton outperformed him?
And if I kick 60 old ladies to death, and then resolve to spare the last three and stop everybody else from kicking them to death too, really how "complex" is my relationship with old lady kicking?
I'm saying you are factually wrong, you weird Woke foxhunting Tory, and facts matter
It's great that late in life you have become agitated by imperial crimes - they certainly exist - but you need to ground your anger in history, not drunken emotion, and you need to realise the context, which matters. EVERY dominant society enslaved people from 2000BC-1900AD
But if pointless boozed-up tragic guilt-wanking gets you off, knock yerself out
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
Tom Daly and the flags of countries where homosexuality is still illegal. Small snippet in 2 h 20 min...
# yes very rude to countries competing I would think as a host - You dont invite guests to your home and make a protest at their views as they walk in
Indeed, as if the Commonwealth hasn't got enough problems at the moment maintaining unity.
Pressure in private fine, humiliation of some member nations in the opening ceremony no
I doubt the Queen will be happy
I expect the Queen will be privately furious, the aftermath of the above in the nations mentioned in the Commonwealth could make this week's Lambeth Conference of the Anglican Communion look like a model of harmony
black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims.
Nadine Dorries tells BBC News: “We haven’t had a sporting event like this in the UK since the 2012 Olympics” as she welcomes the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims.
Quite easy to do, probably needs a bit more heat (it's an American recipe), and a delicious, tasty variation on an Asian coconut fish curry. More lime and astringency, less sweetness, and totes yum
Had it with basmati/wild rice and a flash fried, garlicky cavolo nero
Quite easy to do, probably needs a bit more heat (it's an American recipe), and a delicious, tasty variation on an Asian coconut fish curry. More lime and astringency, less sweetness, and totes yum
Had it with basmati/wild rice and a flash fried, garlicky cavolo nero
black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims.
The British transported less than half the total number of Jews exterminated in the Holocaust by the Nazis as slaves to the Americas, let alone killed them. Indeed less than 5% died on the voyage.
That does not excuse it but it was not comparable to the Holocaust
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
Let me start by saying slavery is of course abhorrent and wrong.
However the slave trade was not "largely at the hand of the British" It has existed for hundred, infact thousands of years throughout Africa and throughout the world. Even if you look at the Trans-Atlantic slave trade circa 75% of the slave trade did not involve the British at all.
A very commonly forgotten fact is that slaves were most often not rounded up and kidnapped by the British but regularly bought from the African Kingdoms engaging in slave trade as they had for many hundred of years.
This notion that slavery was all Britain's fault is a gross rewriting of history. There are currently over 30 millions slaves living in the world right this day, in comparison the trans Atlantic slave trade combining every European empire, African kingdoms and the Americas over 400 years totalled 12.7 million (12.7 million too many of course), but really puts it into perspective.
Fuck off. I didn't say it was "all" Britain's fault. Again, you are like Fred West saying Oooh, I suppose you are trying to lay every single murder since Cain and Abel at my door?
Slavery had not existed in Britain for so long before the Atlantic trade got under way, that actually you would have a much stronger argument in favour of reinstating slavery today on the basis of the historical precedent of the triangular trade, than they had then.
Economics has a demand side. How would your "African Kingdoms" have engaged in a slave trade without willing buyers?
and why do your arguments not apply to the holocaust? Europe has always had a rich history of pogroms, there's biblical precedents for the mass deportations of Jews, so let's put things in perspective shall we? How do those arguments differ from yours?
You said it was "Largely at the hands of the British" which is fundamentally not true.
Again you are taking my comments completely out of context, i stated several times that slavery is wrong and abhorrent, at no point have i said anything to the contrary, my issue is not with there being blame at Britain for slavery, my issue is quite clearly blaming Britain more than anyone else and making it out, as you said that it was "largely at the hands of Britain"
Had the British not engaged in slavery, many other empires, whether western or Muslim would have jumped in our place. Again my point is not excusing slavery but pointing out that this was a world wide issue which there are far more guilty parties in than just the British.
black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims.
The British transported less than half the total number of Jews exterminated in the Holocaust by the Nazis as slaves to the Americas, let alone killed them
The academic argument now is whether the British Empire (now trading as the UK), nay, Western capitalism, is irredeemably steeped in the blood of slavery, and must therefore be dismantled outright.
Is this Commonwealth Games opening ceremony the most Woke ever?
What was woke about it? I didn't watch, but would be interested.
I presume the wokophobic mean that there was a poem before that addressed the negative aspects of Empire, and there was a statement in favour of LGBT rights.
What fucks me off is, there's two completely different questions there. I am right about both, natch, but the answers are at complete polar opposites on the woke spectrum. On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust, largely at the hands of the British, and they are entitled to the truth and to the cessation of denial of this fact. On the other, transsexual people are entitled to all the respect, tolerance and support in the world but we must come down like a ton of bricks on right on wankers who purport to assert their rights as overriding the right of women not to be raped and humiliated, and to enjoy competitive physical sport, and of children not to be experimented on.
'On the one hand, black Africans were and are the victims of a crime as egregious as, and with worse and more long lasting consequences than, the Holocaust?'
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
I said the British, not the British Empire.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
What bit of that is wrong?
So no, the British Empire did not pursue extermination camps on Blacks, thanks for the confirmation.
I notice you also completely ignored the 20,000 Royal Navy sailors who lost their lives helping to eradicate slavery
Well it depends what you mean by extermination does it not, you smug god bothering prick? Auschwitz Birkenau was an extermination camp for the old the young and the female, otherwise a slave labour camp. Does that make it better in your eyes? How pleasant on a scale of 1 to 10 do you think field work on a Caribbean plantation actually was?
Your nightly reminder:
The monarch is, bizarrely, also head of your church.
In one case this resulted in a great theologian being in the driving seat.
He unambiguously stated in writing that the relationship between John and the head honcho was one of physical homosexuality.
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Like tipping the National winner 10 yards from the post when it's 50 lengths clear.
Gone down in my estimation.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/politics-betting-2378961
Then they had Max Whitlock coming in accompanied by a mental health message, which again while I have little problem with the sentiment was somewhat out of place.
Anyway Prince Charles has now finally opened it followed by the Birmingham Bull
BREAKING:
Ben Wallace has endorsed Liz Truss for the Tory leadership
Writing in The Times he says she is the 'only candidate' who has the experience to lead the country from day one
'Liz is a winner not because she's a slick salesperson but because she's authentic'
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1552760810060992512
yes very rude to countries competing I would think as a host - You dont invite guests to your home and make a protest at their views as they walk in
https://twitter.com/jackelsom/status/1552765052633088000
What is conservative about destroying an ancient English county, dating back to 700AD?
Hereford means "army ford" - a place to cross the Wye, for the Anglo Saxon army. Hereford is one of the most obviously Anglo-Saxon counties in the UK. It is proud of this
It has FUCK ALL to do with Worcestershire
Crikey, even now it can make me angry! Ted Heath was a c*nt in so many ways
Nadine Dorries does not exactly help herself:
Nadine Dorries tells BBC News: “We haven’t had a sporting event like this in the UK since the 2012 Olympics” as she welcomes the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
Glasgow was the 2014 host of the same event.
https://twitter.com/Dennynews/status/1552552688801423360
When did the British Empire ever murder 6 million Blacks in death camps?
… and Truss ranks alongside Crabb, Hammond, Morgan, Harper, Soubry, Stewart, Truss, & Fallon for the longer-shot who may offer value at the bookmakers…
Pressure in private fine, humiliation of some member nations in the opening ceremony no
Though I suspect that’s not the case.
But I imagine he'll be banging on about his undying support for the new leader.
But this is basically untrue, and provably untrue, as I have told you countless times
The largest slavers of Africans were Muslims, and it went on for much longer (and was finally stopped by the British Empire)
The Brits have a complex history with slavery, some of it utterly shameful (the slavery), some of it noble (the abolition). There is no need to make up shit
I wonder if part of the success of Marcus Rashford campaign (driven his very well connected agent, Kelly Hogarth) was that he kept that campaign outside of the time he was actually on the pitch.
We shipped 3.1million Africans across the Atlantic, though rather fewer were alive at the other end. You probably think of this as free passage on the classic trade winds route on an authentic 3 masted square rigger, followed by guaranteed employment on a Caribbean island for life. Actually, a death camp, with the death perhaps slightly more drawn out than for some (not all) Auschwitz victims. Now, proportionate to world population at the time, that's way more than six million. And secondly the further generations of black Afro Americans having a shit time, down to and including now, as a direct consequence, absolutely dwarf the holocaust.
What bit of that is wrong?
Can we just get Truss up to Balmoral to kiss the hands and so on?
"Two rough estimates by scholars of the numbers of just one group - black slaves held over twelve centuries in the Muslim world - are 11.5 million[6] and 14 million,[7][8] while other estimates indicate a number between 12 and 15 million African slaves prior to the 20th century.[9]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world#:~:text=Two rough estimates by scholars,prior to the 20th century.
However the slave trade was not "largely at the hand of the British" It has existed for hundred, infact thousands of years throughout Africa and throughout the world. Even if you look at the Trans-Atlantic slave trade circa 75% of the slave trade did not involve the British at all.
A very commonly forgotten fact is that slaves were most often not rounded up and kidnapped by the British but regularly bought from the African Kingdoms engaging in slave trade as they had for many hundred of years.
This notion that slavery was all Britain's fault is a gross rewriting of history. There are currently over 30 millions slaves living in the world right this day, in comparison the trans Atlantic slave trade combining every European empire, African kingdoms and the Americas over 400 years totalled 12.7 million (12.7 million too many of course), but really puts it into perspective.
And if I kick 60 old ladies to death, and then resolve to spare the last three and stop everybody else from kicking them to death too, really how "complex" is my relationship with old lady kicking?
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Quite easy to do, probably needs a bit more heat (it's an American recipe), and a delicious, tasty variation on an Asian coconut fish curry. More lime and astringency, less sweetness, and totes yum
Had it with basmati/wild rice and a flash fried, garlicky cavolo nero
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https://twitter.com/karenxcheng/status/1552720889489154048
I notice you also completely ignored the 20,000 Royal Navy sailors who lost their lives helping to eradicate slavery
Slaves carried to America, by nation, 1519-1867
Portugal: 5,848,266
Britain: 3,259,443
France: 1,381,404
Spain: 1,061,524
Netherlands: 554,336
United States: 305,326
Denmark: 111,040
Total: 12,521,339
"Estimates of the total number of black slaves moved from Sub-Saharan Africa to the Muslim world range from 11-17 million" This paper measures and analyzes death rates that prevailed in the Atlantic slave trade during the late 1700s... Annual death rates in this activity were 230 per thousand among the crew and 83 per thousand among slaves. The lack of immunities to the African disease environment contributed to the high death rates among the crew.
You might also like to contemplate how half the children of the Boer Republics died in the camps in South Africa.
It's great that late in life you have become agitated by imperial crimes - they certainly exist - but you need to ground your anger in history, not drunken emotion, and you need to realise the context, which matters. EVERY dominant society enslaved people from 2000BC-1900AD
But if pointless boozed-up tragic guilt-wanking gets you off, knock yerself out
He'll unload his sack. And you won't have any nasty financial consequences.
Of course the descendants of those Boers then pursued apartheid when they ran South Africa
Slavery had not existed in Britain for so long before the Atlantic trade got under way, that actually you would have a much stronger argument in favour of reinstating slavery today on the basis of the historical precedent of the triangular trade, than they had then.
Economics has a demand side. How would your "African Kingdoms" have engaged in a slave trade without willing buyers?
and why do your arguments not apply to the holocaust? Europe has always had a rich history of pogroms, there's biblical precedents for the mass deportations of Jews, so let's put things in perspective shall we? How do those arguments differ from yours?
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That does not excuse it but it was not comparable to the Holocaust
Again you are taking my comments completely out of context, i stated several times that slavery is wrong and abhorrent, at no point have i said anything to the contrary, my issue is not with there being blame at Britain for slavery, my issue is quite clearly blaming Britain more than anyone else and making it out, as you said that it was "largely at the hands of Britain"
Had the British not engaged in slavery, many other empires, whether western or Muslim would have jumped in our place. Again my point is not excusing slavery but pointing out that this was a world wide issue which there are far more guilty parties in than just the British.
Nobody now denies that.
The academic argument now is whether the British Empire (now trading as the UK), nay, Western capitalism, is irredeemably steeped in the blood of slavery, and must therefore be dismantled outright.
Your nightly reminder:
The monarch is, bizarrely, also head of your church.
In one case this resulted in a great theologian being in the driving seat.
He unambiguously stated in writing that the relationship between John and the head honcho was one of physical homosexuality.
Pegging.
And it really is flavoursome. An intriguing, citrussy tweak on Asian fish curries from Goa or Thailand