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  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,745
    Xipe said:

    Roger said:

    ClippP said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    In my experience, Mr Observer, the recipe is for closed <|b> windows. They are open throughout the night, so that the cooler air gets in, but get closed once the sun has risen and the air gets hotter outside.

    Open windows and shutters shut if you live on the shady side of the street. Everything closed if you don't. That's how I remember it - but it was a few years ago!

    Met saying it will be 32 degrees here when I am heading to bed this evening at 10:30ish.

    Jeez. This is going to be a total nightmare.

    That doesn't sound too bad. That's the temperature in the the South of France at the moment and it's ridiculously busy and people are paying a fortune for those temperatures
    You wanking idiot. He’s saying it will be 32C at night when he goes to bed and tries to sleep. Unprecedented in Britain

    Not in the south of France in broad daylight
    Trying to sleep in temperatures above 30 is not uncommon for night shift workers; hardly unprecedented for them.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845
    edited July 2022
    Eabhal said:

    IanB2 said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    I am not a massively travelled person internationally, but it seems odd to me that the maximum heat where I am today is going to be between 16.00 and 18.00, and tomorrow from 14.00 to 16.00.

    I'd have expected the maximum to be somewhere just after midday, not so late in the afternoon or early evening. Is this the result of the cause of the heatwave, or something to do with our inclination/orbit (my *impression* is that we in the UK usually have max heat in mid-afternoon, not lunchtime).
    I thought that the afternoon was always the hottest, since that was when the combination of the Sun plus heat re-radiating from the Earth reached its peak as opposed to just the Sun?
    Its like heating a saucepan of water - heat going in from the gas (sun) and escaping from the pan. You can turn the gas down from max and the pan continues to get hotter. Similarly, warmest time of year is usually late July or early August, not mid June.
    The best way to cook scrambled eggs.

    Enjoying the "hottest place" ticker on sky news. Cornwall at the mo.
    Says 24; I have 23 down here on the Island currently. But the coast should be quickly overtaken by London as the sun gets going - here there's a fair bit of light cloud.

    Today's predicted max here is 27 - so it shouldn't get too much hotter, although if the cloud clears the 'feels like' will be higher. I await your reports of eggs frying on pavements and the like from heat central...
  • XipeXipe Posts: 47
    Andy_JS said:

    Drinking hot tea is, surprisingly, a good idea in hot weather, according to this article.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11023101/How-survive-heatwave-MailOnline-speaks-experts-out.html#comments

    Isn’t curry meant to be good? Encouraging sweat?

    The government should set up enormous “scorching Vindaloo curry and fresh pots of scalding tea” dispensaries in car parks. Saving thousands of lives
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,607
    Xipe said:

    Andy_JS said:

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    I don't understand this one:

    "9. If you are dehydrated (and an adult, and able to do so) drink a half a pint of beer (inc. alcohol free!) and then move straight onto water (or a sports drink or cordial if you don't like water)."
    It just makes dying of heatstroke more agreeable
    The alcohol opens up capillaries so making heat dissipation easier?

    That's all I could think of.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,886

    Xipe said:

    I doubt that 50% of us will make it through to Wednesday

    Bright side: Parking in Sheffield is going to be an absolute breeze for the next few years

    Will 50% of Seant creations make it I wonder?
    Didn't one of them die quickly over the weekend? Orka came and went before Zippy appeared in his place.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,273

    Xipe said:

    Roger said:

    ClippP said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    In my experience, Mr Observer, the recipe is for closed <|b> windows. They are open throughout the night, so that the cooler air gets in, but get closed once the sun has risen and the air gets hotter outside.

    Open windows and shutters shut if you live on the shady side of the street. Everything closed if you don't. That's how I remember it - but it was a few years ago!

    Met saying it will be 32 degrees here when I am heading to bed this evening at 10:30ish.

    Jeez. This is going to be a total nightmare.

    That doesn't sound too bad. That's the temperature in the the South of France at the moment and it's ridiculously busy and people are paying a fortune for those temperatures
    You wanking idiot. He’s saying it will be 32C at night when he goes to bed and tries to sleep. Unprecedented in Britain

    Not in the south of France in broad daylight
    Trying to sleep in temperatures above 30 is not uncommon for night shift workers; hardly unprecedented for them.
    Could be one factor why shift-working is so bad for a person's health?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,745
    Andy_JS said:

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    I don't understand this one:

    "9. If you are dehydrated (and an adult, and able to do so) drink a half a pint of beer (inc. alcohol free!) and then move straight onto water (or a sports drink or cordial if you don't like water)."
    The beer is to replace sugar and salts lost through sweating and peeing. It is for the same reason @Foxy recommended Coke and crisps.
  • OT (but then so is talking about the bloody weather) - Its a good job that I checked the FTSE movement today with the BBC before delving into my AJ Bell account to check on the portfolio as that shows my shares all down and about 10% down on average - Obviously a glitch but if I had done it first before checking the FTSE on the internet I would have been joining the waiting list for an ambulance today

    Well.... the FTSE is slightly up on most short term measures: 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. But I suspect like most of us you also have a high % of US and other non-UK shares ?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,384
    Andy_JS said:

    Drinking hot tea is, surprisingly, a good idea in hot weather, according to this article.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11023101/How-survive-heatwave-MailOnline-speaks-experts-out.html#comments

    Chinese drink hot water.
  • XipeXipe Posts: 47

    Xipe said:

    Roger said:

    ClippP said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    In my experience, Mr Observer, the recipe is for closed <|b> windows. They are open throughout the night, so that the cooler air gets in, but get closed once the sun has risen and the air gets hotter outside.

    Open windows and shutters shut if you live on the shady side of the street. Everything closed if you don't. That's how I remember it - but it was a few years ago!

    Met saying it will be 32 degrees here when I am heading to bed this evening at 10:30ish.

    Jeez. This is going to be a total nightmare.

    That doesn't sound too bad. That's the temperature in the the South of France at the moment and it's ridiculously busy and people are paying a fortune for those temperatures
    You wanking idiot. He’s saying it will be 32C at night when he goes to bed and tries to sleep. Unprecedented in Britain

    Not in the south of France in broad daylight
    Trying to sleep in temperatures above 30 is not uncommon for night shift workers; hardly unprecedented for them.
    Roger, bless him, is also focusing on the south of France where it will actually top out at an equable 31C today. Entirely tolerable

    Contrast with Paris, which will be a grisly 41C, or parts of the SW, which might beat the French record of 46C. Ugh

    Indeed the southern UK and central west France are slated to be some of the hottest places on earth for the next 48 hours
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,928
    My most effective solution to heat by far is to spend the day somewhere air conditioned. Thus I am off to the office.

    Second best - but not to be combined with the first - is to jump in a full paddling pool in t-short and shorts, get the clothes soaked, then enjoy up to an hour of beautiful evaporative cooling. Works an absolute treat.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,087
    I appreciate Kemi is still a live outsider, but could Tom T do the race a favour and bow out this morning. He'll finish last & he knows he's going to finish last.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,607

    Taz said:

    MaxPB said:

    No way now for Penny to win. That story about purposefully lying about her true intentions for a policy is dynamite.

    Looks like Sunak v Truss. The ERG would never forgive Sunak for winning that.

    It’s going to be Truss, isn’t it.

    Heaven help us.
    I think Sunak still has a good chance with the membership. Truss is just so terrible at public speaking and gives no presence at all.

    Not to mention the policies suck.
    The whole Brexit ERG lunacy has come to its own mad ending where the ERG are supporting the woman who campaigned loudly for Remain rather than the guy who has been an ardent leaver his whole political life.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,497
    edited July 2022

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    A quick way to cool down that she doesn’t mention is to hold your wrist under a running cold tap.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,509
    41ºC here now, and still climbing.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,854
    Xipe said:

    Roger said:

    ClippP said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    In my experience, Mr Observer, the recipe is for closed <|b> windows. They are open throughout the night, so that the cooler air gets in, but get closed once the sun has risen and the air gets hotter outside.

    Open windows and shutters shut if you live on the shady side of the street. Everything closed if you don't. That's how I remember it - but it was a few years ago!

    Met saying it will be 32 degrees here when I am heading to bed this evening at 10:30ish.

    Jeez. This is going to be a total nightmare.

    That doesn't sound too bad. That's the temperature in the the South of France at the moment and it's ridiculously busy and people are paying a fortune for those temperatures
    You wanking idiot. He’s saying it will be 32C at night when he goes to bed and tries to sleep. Unprecedented in Britain

    Not in the south of France in broad daylight
    Lazarus!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845

    ClippP said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    In my experience, Mr Observer, the recipe is for closed <|b> windows. They are open throughout the night, so that the cooler air gets in, but get closed once the sun has risen and the air gets hotter outside.

    Open windows and shutters shut if you live on the shady side of the street. Everything closed if you don't. That's how I remember it - but it was a few years ago!

    Not when it's 40C in the shade!

    Keep windows and curtains/blinds closed all day
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,273
    Pulpstar said:

    I appreciate Kemi is still a live outsider, but could Tom T do the race a favour and bow out this morning. He'll finish last & he knows he's going to finish last.

    Does it help Badenoch for Tugendhat to stay in the race? it gives her an extra round of voting to try and build momentum to overhaul one of the three frontrunners.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,273

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    A quick way to cool down that she doesn’t mention is to hold your wrist under a running cold tap.
    Yes. The wrists and the ankles are places where veins are close to the surface, and so are good spots to cool oneself down.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,751
    Mr. JohnL, yes, but people have internal thermostats which account for that. That's why we're comfortable in night time temperatures that would be chilly during the day, and during daytime temperatures that would be oppressive at night.

    But that does remind me that I should check my old biopsych textbooks in case there's anything useful on homeostasis.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,753
    Andy_JS said:

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    I don't understand this one:

    "9. If you are dehydrated (and an adult, and able to do so) drink a half a pint of beer (inc. alcohol free!) and then move straight onto water (or a sports drink or cordial if you don't like water)."
    People who don't like water deserve to die.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,479
    edited July 2022
    I've changed my mind on Sunak vs Truss. Sunak would be the best option out of those two.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,732
    Andy_JS said:

    Drinking hot tea is, surprisingly, a good idea in hot weather, according to this article.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11023101/How-survive-heatwave-MailOnline-speaks-experts-out.html#comments

    Drinking hot tea is rarely not a good idea.

    I worry that none of my daughters yet seem to have developed a fondness for tea.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    A quick way to cool down that she doesn’t mention is to hold your wrist under a running cold tap.
    Or good advise often given in the Deep South - go soak yer head!
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,808

    OT (but then so is talking about the bloody weather) - Its a good job that I checked the FTSE movement today with the BBC before delving into my AJ Bell account to check on the portfolio as that shows my shares all down and about 10% down on average - Obviously a glitch but if I had done it first before checking the FTSE on the internet I would have been joining the waiting list for an ambulance today

    Well.... the FTSE is slightly up on most short term measures: 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. But I suspect like most of us you also have a high % of US and other non-UK shares ?
    no i meant just todays movement
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    And she got tons of replies questioning how she could be 'genuine' Australian given her European heritage!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,751
    Mr. Password, yes, it gives Badenoch more breathing space.

    Conversely, it may be worst for Mordaunt who now seems on the slide.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,479
    "People should "just take it easy" and go to the beach to cope with the "ferocious" heat over the next two days, a Cabinet Minister has suggested.

    Kit Malthouse, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, told Sky News that those living in the Midlands and London should head to the coast as it is likely to be "cooler"." (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/18/met-office-weather-heatwave-warning-uk-schools-work/
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    A quick way to cool down that she doesn’t mention is to hold your wrist under a running cold tap.
    Yes. The wrists and the ankles are places where veins are close to the surface, and so are good spots to cool oneself down.
    Hence the ice in the armpit advice from that immigrant Australian...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845
    Surrey now 26 C
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Cicero said:

    There is a story circulating in Finland which is extremely negative for a key figure in the British Cabinet. I understand that there is considerable litigation underway concerning this story, so for the sake of OGH I will neither report what or who. However, it is extremely serious. Though the various rumoured injunctions and even super injuctions may hold for a while, I think that the story may still break quite soon. The new Conservative leader might be facing a near existential threat to the well being of the party.

    Blimey. This is where we need Leon and his amazing twitter skills, so it is a shame about his ban.
    What’s he banned for this time?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,886
    Andy_JS said:

    "People should "just take it easy" and go to the beach to cope with the "ferocious" heat over the next two days, a Cabinet Minister has suggested.

    Kit Malthouse, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, told Sky News that those living in the Midlands and London should head to the coast as it is likely to be "cooler"." (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/18/met-office-weather-heatwave-warning-uk-schools-work/

    This is Fucking Mental on so many levels:
    1. Coast resorts get inundated with people who struggle to park / find drinks / find toilets / not drown
    2. For those without a car they get to avoid traffic hell and substitute it with train hell. Pax heading to Blackpool and Skegvegas may get stuck there with trains back cancelled
    3. What part of the "For Cliff's sake do not travel about" advice wasn't clear?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,664

    Cicero said:

    There is a story circulating in Finland which is extremely negative for a key figure in the British Cabinet. I understand that there is considerable litigation underway concerning this story, so for the sake of OGH I will neither report what or who. However, it is extremely serious. Though the various rumoured injunctions and even super injuctions may hold for a while, I think that the story may still break quite soon. The new Conservative leader might be facing a near existential threat to the well being of the party.

    Blimey. This is where we need Leon and his amazing twitter skills, so it is a shame about his ban.
    What’s he banned for this time?
    I think his Chinese cousin has now joined us
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,886
    kyf_100 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I've changed my mind on Sunak vs Truss. Sunak would be the best choice between those two.

    Sunak is unfortunately the only one who exudes competence.

    The trouble is, of course, that is mostly down to his polished presentation skills and privileged background.

    Actually looking at his time in the treasury, he's presided over the cost of living crisis and seems to have no answers as to what to do with it.

    He promises to fix the broken economy - couldn't he have done that as chancellor?

    While at the treasury he allegedly blocked funding to sort out the cladding defect scandal that's plagued leaseholders in flats, trying to push the bills back onto ordinary people, while forcing them to live in unsafe homes. (Compare this to how the Australian government set up a fund to rectify building defects over there).

    Squint beneath the polished exterior and you'll see how completely out of touch he is. Doesn't know how to use a contactless card in a shop, billionaire family, wife was a non dom, that infamous video of him saying he doesn't have any working class friends.

    Sunak is all polish and presentation, and very little substance underneath. I can't remember who described him as "the Davos candidate" but that feels accurate. Government by billionaires, for billionaires. The Labour attack lines will write themselves.
    Sunak's response to most of the "why didn't he do x" jibes is "because the boss wouldn't allow it". He's already pinned the worst of the stupid on Bonzo ("because the boss wanted it") so he will continue to do so.

    This is always the case when someone leaves suddenly. Pin any shit you don't want to own on the now departed person.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708

    Taz said:

    MaxPB said:

    No way now for Penny to win. That story about purposefully lying about her true intentions for a policy is dynamite.

    Looks like Sunak v Truss. The ERG would never forgive Sunak for winning that.

    It’s going to be Truss, isn’t it.

    Heaven help us.
    I think Sunak still has a good chance with the membership. Truss is just so terrible at public speaking and gives no presence at all.

    Not to mention the policies suck.
    The whole Brexit ERG lunacy has come to its own mad ending where the ERG are supporting the woman who campaigned loudly for Remain rather than the guy who has been an ardent leaver his whole political life.

    This is where I think Truss is being underestimated. She somehow managed to pull this off, she's audacious and good at politics.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,886

    Cicero said:

    There is a story circulating in Finland which is extremely negative for a key figure in the British Cabinet. I understand that there is considerable litigation underway concerning this story, so for the sake of OGH I will neither report what or who. However, it is extremely serious. Though the various rumoured injunctions and even super injuctions may hold for a while, I think that the story may still break quite soon. The new Conservative leader might be facing a near existential threat to the well being of the party.

    Blimey. This is where we need Leon and his amazing twitter skills, so it is a shame about his ban.
    What’s he banned for this time?
    He isn't banned. Merely regenerated.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,401
    IanB2 said:

    This is really excellent advice on dealing with heat from an Aussie doctor. Could even be lifesaving. Pass around folks:


    Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts
    @EllieMRoberts

    I am a genuine Australian, here is some advice regarding dealing with the heat that's heading to England... if you have no aircon.

    https://twitter.com/EllieMRoberts/status/1548310703676669953

    And she got tons of replies questioning how she could be 'genuine' Australian given her European heritage!
    And gave credit to the Boonwurra (?) people, original inhabitants of the land!
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,273
    edited July 2022

    Cicero said:

    There is a story circulating in Finland which is extremely negative for a key figure in the British Cabinet. I understand that there is considerable litigation underway concerning this story, so for the sake of OGH I will neither report what or who. However, it is extremely serious. Though the various rumoured injunctions and even super injuctions may hold for a while, I think that the story may still break quite soon. The new Conservative leader might be facing a near existential threat to the well being of the party.

    Blimey. This is where we need Leon and his amazing twitter skills, so it is a shame about his ban.
    What’s he banned for this time?
    Unweighted Scottish subsamples.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,332
    edited July 2022
    We had continental-style wooden shutters fitted in all our main rooms a few weeks ago. It really is lovely and cool.
    Is there a PB award for smug post of the year?
  • XipeXipe Posts: 47
    28C at Biggin Hill and Southend. 9.30am

    If everyone in the UK now turns on the oven and runs a tumble dryer, the record will go

    COME ON BRITAIN, YOU CAN DO THIS
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,332
    IanB2 said:

    Surrey now 26 C

    There's no need to apologise.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,509

    We had continental-style wooden shutters fitted in all our main rooms a few weeks ago. It really is lovely and cool.
    Is there a PB award for smug post of the year?

    42ºC outside for me right now, but a cool 23º in the air conditioned apartment.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,567
    Met office now suggesting 43c!

    Is there a chance this starts to really escalate?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845

    Andy_JS said:

    "People should "just take it easy" and go to the beach to cope with the "ferocious" heat over the next two days, a Cabinet Minister has suggested.

    Kit Malthouse, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, told Sky News that those living in the Midlands and London should head to the coast as it is likely to be "cooler"." (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/18/met-office-weather-heatwave-warning-uk-schools-work/

    This is Fucking Mental on so many levels:
    1. Coast resorts get inundated with people who struggle to park / find drinks / find toilets / not drown
    2. For those without a car they get to avoid traffic hell and substitute it with train hell. Pax heading to Blackpool and Skegvegas may get stuck there with trains back cancelled
    3. What part of the "For Cliff's sake do not travel about" advice wasn't clear?
    He seems to be having some sort of midlife crisis, with all those blond highlights in his hair?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,751
    Mr. Al, no, but in German you'd be called der Fensterselbstgefälligmeister.
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578

    Pulpstar said:

    I appreciate Kemi is still a live outsider, but could Tom T do the race a favour and bow out this morning. He'll finish last & he knows he's going to finish last.

    Does it help Badenoch for Tugendhat to stay in the race? it gives her an extra round of voting to try and build momentum to overhaul one of the three frontrunners.
    There is a very (outlandish) scenario where PM's vote collapses today post-the pile on and newspaper stories (plus the Speccie one today) and TT is the main beneficiary.

    Two other things:

    1. Check out the Telegraph's columnists' view of the debate - some interesting observations

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/18/who-won-tory-leadership-debate-itv-truss-mordaunt-sunak/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

    2. Note the ERG comments to Francois' whip to vote for Braverman. A fair bit of dissension from RW MPs suggesting that they don't see Truss as the one to keep their seats.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,923
    This is notable, if only because the Conservative party is less of a broad church than it has been in living memory.

    "You had to keep reminding yourself these were five people who are actually in the same party"

    @ChrisMasonBBC gives his verdict on last night's Conservative leadership TV debate

    https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1548944204843417600
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845
    Cornwall edges Surrey, back in the lead at 26.1
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,152
    NEW THREAD
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,273
    Eabhal said:

    Met office now suggesting 43c!

    Is there a chance this starts to really escalate?

    If there's less cloud than forecast then peak temperature could easily be a few degrees hotter than the best guess forecast. There's a limit to how bad things can get though because there's high confidence the Atlantic will push the hot air away to the East by Wednesday.

    However, one stranded train without power, a motorway pileup causing hours-long tailbacks and a few barbecue fires out of control could certainly create an apocalyptic feel for the evening news.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,845
    It looks to me as if the No Confidence debate will start some time around or after 4pm and run through to the vote at 10pm?

    Given that the Government tabled it, you'd normally expect them to move it, but I assume they will pass this job across to Starmer?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,273
    IanB2 said:

    It looks to me as if the No Confidence debate will start some time around or after 4pm and run through to the vote at 10pm?

    Given that the Government tabled it, you'd normally expect them to move it, but I assume they will pass this job across to Starmer?

    Have any of the journalists managed to sneak a temperature sensor into the chamber so that we can have measurements of the temperature of the debate?
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006
    Xipe said:

    Roger said:

    ClippP said:

    There’s a bit of a myth about A/C in the hot south of Europe. Certainly in Spain, a large number of private residences - probably most - don’t have it. I have good friends in a town near Barcelona, both with well-paid jobs, who have just moved into a new flat that is not equipped with it. Very few older places are. Remember, too, that it’s very expensive to run - especially at a time when energy prices are very high.

    The traditional antidote to the summer heat has always been shutters, open windows and shadowed areas on streets and in squares. For a lot of people that remains the case. Most of all, though, it has been the siesta. The southern Europeans were never lazy, they were just smart enough to know it’s absurd to work during the hottest part of the day.

    In my experience, Mr Observer, the recipe is for closed <|b> windows. They are open throughout the night, so that the cooler air gets in, but get closed once the sun has risen and the air gets hotter outside.

    Open windows and shutters shut if you live on the shady side of the street. Everything closed if you don't. That's how I remember it - but it was a few years ago!

    Met saying it will be 32 degrees here when I am heading to bed this evening at 10:30ish.

    Jeez. This is going to be a total nightmare.

    That doesn't sound too bad. That's the temperature in the the South of France at the moment and it's ridiculously busy and people are paying a fortune for those temperatures
    You wanking idiot. He’s saying it will be 32C at night when he goes to bed and tries to sleep. Unprecedented in Britain

    Not in the south of France in broad daylight
    You take the piss out this site and OGH. You get banned, come back under yet another name, lie about it, play nice for a few posts but are back to slinging personal abuse within 48 hours of getting the ban hammer.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,297
    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    TimS said:

    FPT

    I think this is shaping up to be a nightmare for most of us but a dream for Labour.

    Mordaunt really seems to have fluffed her lines. Badenoch won’t quite make the cut, so it’s going to end up being a runoff between dull and flawed but fundamentally fairly professional Rishi, and Truss.

    The membership will vote for Liz. She will prove to be every bit as bad as her predecessor, and surrounded by the same clowns. Meanwhile the economy will get worse as will relations with the EU and the coherence of the Union, The public will think “bugger this for a laugh” and seriously shit on
    the Tories in 2024.

    Out of all the candidates, the one who will generate zero polling bounce or even a new nadir is Truss.

    Not just a dream for Labour. SNP, SG and PC will be overjoyed. As indeed you imply.
    Truss is definitely our dream result, but I just don’t think we’re going to get that lucky.
    Quite. Admittedly somewhat to my relief, given she would probably start a nuclear war just to improve her postings on Conservative Home, and generate a cosplay Maggie set against a mushroom cloud or three.

    Hint: MOPP 4 noddy suits don't do a great deal for one's blonde hairstyle.
    I don't get the dressing up. It's so thuddingly literal. It's not 'power dressing for the 21st century' like Theresa May and her tennis ball necklaces, it's literally 'I'm going to wear an identical Maggie blouse'. Does she think it's subtle? She'll be doing the Maggie walk with the inclined head and carrying her handbag by the crook of her arm next.
    It is, more than a bit. That bow-tie thingy ( @MoonRabbit would know what it is, but I'm only a poor ignorant male) was so blatant.
    It shows a woman very uncertain of herself that she has to so obviously copy someone else. By her age you'd expect her to be much more confident in herself. But she isn't.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,297
    Xipe said:

    Xipe said:

    Farooq said:

    Xipe said:

    We may see a really important UK weather record broken in the next two days - but not (just) the obvious highest temp ever, instead: the record highest minimum

    At present that is 23.9 from August 2003, in Brighton

    London tomorrow is not expected to go below 24C: absolutely tropical weather



    Hello Leon. Fuck off.
    Is this normal on Political Betting?
    My God you are such a knob.
    I'm not entirely sure what a humble ethnographer of pre-Columbian cultures has done - to deserve such barbed and bitter contumely after three comments
    Ignore them. Some of us are friendly, gently flirtatious even.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,316
    Eabhal said:

    Met office now suggesting 43c!

    Is there a chance this starts to really escalate?

    How?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,446
    Cyclefree said:

    Xipe said:

    Xipe said:

    Farooq said:

    Xipe said:

    We may see a really important UK weather record broken in the next two days - but not (just) the obvious highest temp ever, instead: the record highest minimum

    At present that is 23.9 from August 2003, in Brighton

    London tomorrow is not expected to go below 24C: absolutely tropical weather



    Hello Leon. Fuck off.
    Is this normal on Political Betting?
    My God you are such a knob.
    I'm not entirely sure what a humble ethnographer of pre-Columbian cultures has done - to deserve such barbed and bitter contumely after three comments
    Ignore them. Some of us are friendly, gently flirtatious even.
    Get a room you two.

    And Leon - Zippy - really?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,760

    We had continental-style wooden shutters fitted in all our main rooms a few weeks ago. It really is lovely and cool.
    Is there a PB award for smug post of the year?

    In our loft extension, I closed the west-facing curtains (with window open) and attached some black-out type sheets with suction cups on the velux-type windows facing east (again both open now) - 30.1 degrees up there right now!
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