"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one modest British town. Population 80,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 4%? Roughly the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an average-sized Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 800,000 girls have been abused. Close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Telford is much bigger than 80,000, it's nearer 150,000.
Edit - and it is certainly not typical of 'middle Britain.' It's quite a bit poorer than average and has a much younger population than average. It has also always had high rates of teenage pregnancy.
Apologies, I was counting households, I shall amend
Telford is a New Town so the population would probably have been a lot less 40 years ago than now.
Not really, because it grew very fast to start with in the early 1960s and then stagnated. 20 years ago it was only about 5,000 people smaller than it is now.
I'm surprised because whenever I travel through the area I see new housing developments, but appearances can be deceptive. Also, Telford got its own parliamentary constituency for the first time in 1997.
Also the masses and masses of modern industrial and warehousing units. Seems every roundabout is flanked by them. In the 1990s didn't a number of big Japanese firms setup there?
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one modest British town. Population 80,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 4%? Roughly the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an average-sized Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 800,000 girls have been abused. Close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Telford is much bigger than 80,000, it's nearer 150,000.
Edit - and it is certainly not typical of 'middle Britain.' It's quite a bit poorer than average and has a much younger population than average. It has also always had high rates of teenage pregnancy.
Apologies, I was counting households, I shall amend
Telford is a New Town so the population would probably have been a lot less 40 years ago than now.
Not really, because it grew very fast to start with in the early 1960s and then stagnated. 20 years ago it was only about 5,000 people smaller than it is now.
Edit - in 1983 it had 108,000 in the town itself.
No matter how you cut it, nothing diminishes the scale and horror of what happened in Telford, nor (after Oldham Rotherham Oxford Rochdale and so many more) the clear implications for what has happened across the UK
It is only matched in scale by the wilful Denial within the UK political classes (across all sides). No one wants to talk about it, no one wants to discuss it, because it is too big and unbearable and because of the consequences for us as a country
I'm not doing that Leon, I'm pointing out your figures are wrong.
Just as pointing out that the deranged estimates of 2,000 dead at the Amritsar Massacre are out by a factor of four (the real figure was around 480-500) doesn't diminish the impact of what happened.
Using the right figures is important as otherwise people will just ignore your posts as hysterical nonsense.
I completely agree (which is why I amended my post after you rightly corrected my error)
I am one of the people that has dismissed this as hysterical nonsense - ie when I saw Sarah Champion, Labour MP for Rotherham, say that maybe 1 million girls had been abused by Muslim Grooming Gangs, I reacted with derision and incredulity. 1 million?? FFS
"Child sex abuse gangs could have assaulted ONE MILLION youngsters in the UK"
1 million? Get out of here. Absurd
And yet if little Telford can have 1000 cases, and Rotherham 1800, and Oldham similar and then Derby, and Southampton, and Oxford and Salford and on and on and on.... then one million becomes horribly plausible
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one modest British town. Population 80,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 4%? Roughly the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an average-sized Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 800,000 girls have been abused. Close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Telford is much bigger than 80,000, it's nearer 150,000.
Edit - and it is certainly not typical of 'middle Britain.' It's quite a bit poorer than average and has a much younger population than average. It has also always had high rates of teenage pregnancy.
Apologies, I was counting households, I shall amend
Telford is a New Town so the population would probably have been a lot less 40 years ago than now.
Not really, because it grew very fast to start with in the early 1960s and then stagnated. 20 years ago it was only about 5,000 people smaller than it is now.
I'm surprised because whenever I travel through the area I see new housing developments, but appearances can be deceptive. Also, Telford got its own parliamentary constituency for the first time in 1997.
How can I put this - you may see new housing developments, but a lot of them are not in Telford, they're in the wider borough of Telford and Wrekin. Which has become a distinction without a difference in many ways, but is still a distinction.
Which does have a fast growing population, it's up about 50% in 20 years, but equally started that time from a base of around 165,000.
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Also worth pointing out votes are anonymous, whereas endorsements are not.
It's possible some MPs who originally thought Zahawi or Braverman might be good idea and backed them publicly before things changed, or felt obliged to back them, might not do so in the next round.
In other words, it's possible they get as few as 16 or 17 votes in the first round.
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Spectator says the rumour is that Rishi lent Hunt support to qualify. So he's literally on life-support.
Lay.
What does he have to gain by having Hunt in the contest (presuming he has no actual chance of reaching the final two)? Trying to get Badenoch or Tugendhat knocked out an early stage? I also wonder if Hunt regrets now not taking a job in Boris' cabinet (even though it would have been a demotion). The whole of King over the Water act didn't exactly work out.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one modest British town. Population 80,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 4%? Roughly the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an average-sized Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 800,000 girls have been abused. Close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Telford is much bigger than 80,000, it's nearer 150,000.
Edit - and it is certainly not typical of 'middle Britain.' It's quite a bit poorer than average and has a much younger population than average. It has also always had high rates of teenage pregnancy.
Apologies, I was counting households, I shall amend
Telford is a New Town so the population would probably have been a lot less 40 years ago than now.
Not really, because it grew very fast to start with in the early 1960s and then stagnated. 20 years ago it was only about 5,000 people smaller than it is now.
Edit - in 1983 it had 108,000 in the town itself.
No matter how you cut it, nothing diminishes the scale and horror of what happened in Telford, nor (after Oldham Rotherham Oxford Rochdale and so many more) the clear implications for what has happened across the UK
It is only matched in scale by the wilful Denial within the UK political classes (across all sides). No one wants to talk about it, no one wants to discuss it, because it is too big and unbearable and because of the consequences for us as a country
I feel that was the situation 5-6 years ago but we have now recognised and discussed it.
Of course, that's very different from institutional and societal change so it could never happen again.
Don't forget Boris is homeless, literally homeless, in September, as the properties he owns are rented out (and I bet he needs the readies).
Boris will find someone to put him up. Lord Brownlow or Lord Lebedev or Michael Hintze. Someone like that.
I reckon The Queen will.
In exchange for him not nominating a bunch of chancers for honours.
Palace advisors working to ensure Boris Johnson’s honours list does not ’embarrass’ Queen
Her Majesty’s private secretary Sir Edward Young is understood to be in regular communication with Cabinet Secretary Simon Case over outgoing PM’s rewards to loyalists, business backers and friends
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Also worth pointing out votes are anonymous, whereas endorsements are not.
It's possible some MPs who originally thought Zahawi or Braverman might be good idea and backed them publicly before things changed, or felt obliged to back them, might not do so in the next round.
In other words, it's possible they get as few as 16 or 17 votes in the first round.
If an MP thought Zahawi or Braverman were a good idea, do they have the intellectual bus fare to write an X on a ballot paper.
Don't forget Boris is homeless, literally homeless, in September, as the properties he owns are rented out (and I bet he needs the readies).
Boris will find someone to put him up. Lord Brownlow or Lord Lebedev or Michael Hintze. Someone like that.
I reckon The Queen will.
In exchange for him not nominating a bunch of chancers for honours.
Palace advisors working to ensure Boris Johnson’s honours list does not ’embarrass’ Queen
Her Majesty’s private secretary Sir Edward Young is understood to be in regular communication with Cabinet Secretary Simon Case over outgoing PM’s rewards to loyalists, business backers and friends
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Spectator says the rumour is that Rishi lent Hunt support to qualify. So he's literally on life-support.
Lay.
What does he have to gain by having Hunt in the contest (presuming he has no actual chance of reaching the final two)? Trying to get Badenoch or Tugendhat knocked out an early stage? I also wonder if Hunt regrets now not taking a job in Boris' cabinet (even though it would have been a demotion). The whole of King over the Water act didn't exactly work out.
It'll be easier for Sunak to offer Hunt a lowly cabinet job or no job if Hunt polls 18 MPs tomorrow.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one modest British town. Population 80,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 4%? Roughly the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an average-sized Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 800,000 girls have been abused. Close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Telford is much bigger than 80,000, it's nearer 150,000.
Edit - and it is certainly not typical of 'middle Britain.' It's quite a bit poorer than average and has a much younger population than average. It has also always had high rates of teenage pregnancy.
Apologies, I was counting households, I shall amend
Telford is a New Town so the population would probably have been a lot less 40 years ago than now.
Not really, because it grew very fast to start with in the early 1960s and then stagnated. 20 years ago it was only about 5,000 people smaller than it is now.
Edit - in 1983 it had 108,000 in the town itself.
No matter how you cut it, nothing diminishes the scale and horror of what happened in Telford, nor (after Oldham Rotherham Oxford Rochdale and so many more) the clear implications for what has happened across the UK
It is only matched in scale by the wilful Denial within the UK political classes (across all sides). No one wants to talk about it, no one wants to discuss it, because it is too big and unbearable and because of the consequences for us as a country
I feel that was the situation 5-6 years ago but we have now recognised and discussed it.
Of course, that's very different from institutional and societal change so it could never happen again.
The Telford Report says it is still happening, in exactly the same pattern
I have heard the same, anecdotally: still going on
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
I'm sure I've heard people bleating on here about the courage of the gotch eyed racist in single handedly calling out the Asian grooming gangs? Take your compliments where you can.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
For someone who by their own testimony abused girls in Bangkok this shouldn't be a great subject for you. If you think those 16 year olds enjoyed earning money having sex with you well into your 40's ad 50's I think you're deluded.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
I'm sure I've heard people bleating on here about the courage of the gotch eyed racist in single handedly calling out the Asian grooming gangs? Take your compliments where you can.
I think that was Tommy Robinson. Unfortunate messenger.
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Also worth pointing out votes are anonymous, whereas endorsements are not.
It's possible some MPs who originally thought Zahawi or Braverman might be good idea and backed them publicly before things changed, or felt obliged to back them, might not do so in the next round.
In other words, it's possible they get as few as 16 or 17 votes in the first round.
Lord Ricketts, the UK's first National Security Advisor and a former Joint Intelligence Committee chair, calls the trip “unprecedented”, “shocking”, “extremely risky” and “very dangerous for the minister’s own reputation and an irresponsible thing to do in that climate”.
Chris Steele, former head of MI6’s Russia desk, says it is “extremely potentially compromising … it needs to be properly investigated by the relevant authorities, which in this case is definitely the security service”.
Angela Rayner, Labour deputy leader, told us that if Johnson is "found to have breached the national security protocols that are there to keep us all safe, he has no option but to leave his office immediately and face the full consequences of the law. It's an absolute red line."
On who Johnson went with, I put the rumour that he was accompanied by a specific young woman to Downing Street.
Guto Harri told me that Johnson denies it and: “If you publish this, then the Prime Minister will sue and you can be the first to contribute to his retirement fund.”
If Johnson moves back to New York, can he stand for President in 15 years’ time?
Not unless he could convince SCOTUS that he qualifies as "natural born citizen" despite renouncing his citizenship?
AND the American people are in mood to vote for a Benny Hill impersonator. Likely a LOWER bar than above.
SCOTUS would only consider such a claim, if he ever won. See Ted Cruz. So there is nothing stopping him standing, assuming he can regain citizenship, which is do-able but unusual and not trivial.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Honestly, not the dodgiest modelling I've ever come across. Reminds me of Spotlight (the film).
It does expose a problem - when we have to depend on Leon and his phone calculator to expose how big a problem this might be, something has gone badly wrong.
A simple question: in what towns/cities has this not yet been exposed? And if it really didn't happen in those, why did it happen in Rotherham (etc)?
So, I grew up in Bedford, which has a very large Muslim population. I went to a state school which drew mostly from the lower income parts of the town. And I'm still friends with a lot of people from the area.
As far as I know, there is no Asian grooming scandal in Bedford. And while I certainly have friends who have been raped, none that I know of were victims of the kind of organized ring that happened in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham etc.
My guess is that problems occur when the police are unwilling to act because of concerns about "community relations". And this creates a viscous feedback loop: people see that they aren't going to be prosecuted or investigated, which encourages bad behaviour. And the worse the problem gets, the more and more unwilling the police are to act.
There are a lot of very shitty human beings - if they feel they can rape and abuse without consequence then they will.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
I'm sure I've heard people bleating on here about the courage of the gotch eyed racist in single handedly calling out the Asian grooming gangs? Take your compliments where you can.
Interesting that your reaction to this story is not to think about the 1000+ victims or the police failings or institutional disasters... no, your first reaction is to ignore all these possibilities and instead call the person talking about it, "Nick Griffin"
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
I'm sure I've heard people bleating on here about the courage of the gotch eyed racist in single handedly calling out the Asian grooming gangs? Take your compliments where you can.
I think that was Tommy Robinson. Unfortunate messenger.
Telford grooming scandal was Robinsons hobby horse for quite a while.
So I'm now drowning my sorrows in cans of Sipsmith G&T. It's rather nice and 7.3% ABV; it's definitely helping
May be worth assessing what you think you did right, where you may have slipped up, and how you might improve your pitch in near future.
And keep pitching!
@BlancheLivermore I've done lots of job interviews in the past few months after about 4 years of doing none. It is really good experience. I've failed most of them, even where I've been headhunted, but offered some which I have turned down. The main thing I've learned is to work out what you think they are looking for and how to present yourself correctly. Also, to work out what it is you need to know from them; you can suss the situation out, and they will probably appreciate this. Feedback can be really useful and put your mind at rest, often the reason you didn't get the job is something not to do with your shortcomings, but someone else had a particular skillset / experience that they were looking for.
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Spectator says the rumour is that Rishi lent Hunt support to qualify. So he's literally on life-support.
Lay.
What does he have to gain by having Hunt in the contest (presuming he has no actual chance of reaching the final two)? Trying to get Badenoch or Tugendhat knocked out an early stage? I also wonder if Hunt regrets now not taking a job in Boris' cabinet (even though it would have been a demotion). The whole of King over the Water act didn't exactly work out.
It'll be easier for Sunak to offer Hunt a lowly cabinet job or no job if Hunt polls 18 MPs tomorrow.
Couldn't he have just offered him a lowly cabinet job or not job at all if Hunt didn't even make the ballot?
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Of course, but he made the allegations and everyone ignored him and dismissed him - they should have investigated his allegations, and then called him a racist for making unsubstantiated claims.
Do we think that the Huntsman is being lined up as runner-up by a Sunak stealth putsch? Hunt knows he can’t win but will get a big job as runner-up in a Sunak government. Maybe I’m buying MadNad’s conspiracy theories too easily.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
I'm sure I've heard people bleating on here about the courage of the gotch eyed racist in single handedly calling out the Asian grooming gangs? Take your compliments where you can.
Interesting that your reaction to this story is not to think about the 1000+ victims or the police failings or institutional disasters... no, your first reaction is to ignore all these possibilities and instead call the person talking about it, "Nick Griffin"
Have you ever considered that you are the baddie?
When people realise that being a racist rsole may inspire a teeny bit of scepticism about their claims of concern for abuse victims, I'll embrace my baddie-hood.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
I'm sure I've heard people bleating on here about the courage of the gotch eyed racist in single handedly calling out the Asian grooming gangs? Take your compliments where you can.
I think that was Tommy Robinson. Unfortunate messenger.
Telford grooming scandal was Robinsons hobby horse for quite a while.
All getting a bit ad hominem here isn't it? I mean, yes, the medium is the message and everything, but the actual established facts are about a trillion times as important as who it was who first pointed them out. To the victims if no one else.
If Johnson moves back to New York, can he stand for President in 15 years’ time?
Not unless he could convince SCOTUS that he qualifies as "natural born citizen" despite renouncing his citizenship?
AND the American people are in mood to vote for a Benny Hill impersonator. Likely a LOWER bar than above.
After a Trump, Trump, Trump Jr, and Trump Jr terms after the abolition of limits, perhaps you'd be in the mood for that?
Well, elections ARE about available options NOT perfect scenarios.
BTW, reason BJ renounced his dual citizenship had WAY less to do with his political career (at time anyway) and MORE to do with desire to avoid US taxes.
Interesting blurb re: BJ's US citizenship (have zero clue re: source)
“It’s an accident of birth that has left me with this thing. I’ve got to find a way of sorting it out.”, Mr. Johnson was quoted in the Sunday Times. This “thing” he refers to is the capital gains tax bill he received from the IRS for the sale of his home in London. Johnson stated that it was outrageous to be charged taxes by the IRS when he hasn’t lived in America since he was 5 years old.
Many wonder though if giving up his American citizenship is all about the taxes. Some believe it is his future political aspirations where a dual citizenship could be an obstacle. It is known that Johnson has plans in the next general election to run for Parliament. During his appearance in 2012 on “The Late Show with David Letterman”, Boris did admit he was American and was quoted as saying “a fact I’m trying to conceal to the London electorate.”
When questioned by Letterman about the rumors of Johnson possibly becoming Britain’s next Prime Minister, he laughed and said “I’ve as much chance of being reincarnated as an olive.” During his interview with Letterman in 2006, Johnson did acknowledge to Letterman, “As you’ve already pointed out, I could be President of the United States… technically speaking.” Now that he has renounced his American citizenship though, he is no longer able to run for America’s highest office. . . .
ADDENDUM - Boris Johnson on Late Show [hosted by David Letterman], June 6, 2012
If Johnson moves back to New York, can he stand for President in 15 years’ time?
Not unless he could convince SCOTUS that he qualifies as "natural born citizen" despite renouncing his citizenship?
AND the American people are in mood to vote for a Benny Hill impersonator. Likely a LOWER bar than above.
SCOTUS would only consider such a claim, if he ever won. See Ted Cruz. So there is nothing stopping him standing, assuming he can regain citizenship, which is do-able but unusual and not trivial.
Johnson is far too young to be POTUS in the US's current iteration.
Trouble is two you just know that two years from now he will stay be ranting on about him... As will our very own @Scott_xP of course..
In two years time, Boris might be back in Number 10. That is his hope, anyway.
He really isn’t Trump. It’ll be the Chiltern Hundreds by the end of September, and off to the US to earn get paid $250k a speech.
How long will that opportunity last? Not sure what BJ's name ID is like in USA but he is NOT a household word. Unlike Tony Blair back in his day.
Teddy Roosevelt stepped down from Presidency (voluntarily and NOT in disgrace) went big game hunting in Africa, toured Europe with mega-publicity there and in US. Then went on to challenge his hand-picked successor for the Republican nomination, and then the election.
TR also used the interval to do writing for fun & profit - something that he (like WSC) was very good at. Unlike BJ IMHO.
EDIT - Plus Boris could depart the House for a (profitable) spell outside, then return via by-election OR general election, pretty much whenever he took the notion. Given ability to cherry-pick seat and quite possibly offer tempting inducements to incumbent Tory MP to step aside?
May is getting 6 figures for speech. May. 6 figures. A half dozen of those a year and you already doing nicely…..
Do we think that the Huntsman is being lined up as runner-up by a Sunak stealth putsch? Hunt knows he can’t win but will get a big job as runner-up in a Sunak government. Maybe I’m buying MadNad’s conspiracy theories too easily.
If MPs want to fix it so those are the final two, it's not a conspiracy, it's them doing their job to present to the members the choice they want to be considered.
Trouble is two you just know that two years from now he will stay be ranting on about him... As will our very own @Scott_xP of course..
In two years time, Boris might be back in Number 10. That is his hope, anyway.
He really isn’t Trump. It’ll be the Chiltern Hundreds by the end of September, and off to the US to earn get paid $250k a speech.
How long will that opportunity last? Not sure what BJ's name ID is like in USA but he is NOT a household word. Unlike Tony Blair back in his day.
Teddy Roosevelt stepped down from Presidency (voluntarily and NOT in disgrace) went big game hunting in Africa, toured Europe with mega-publicity there and in US. Then went on to challenge his hand-picked successor for the Republican nomination, and then the election.
TR also used the interval to do writing for fun & profit - something that he (like WSC) was very good at. Unlike BJ IMHO.
EDIT - Plus Boris could depart the House for a (profitable) spell outside, then return via by-election OR general election, pretty much whenever he took the notion. Given ability to cherry-pick seat and quite possibly offer tempting inducements to incumbent Tory MP to step aside?
May is getting 6 figures for speech. May. 6 figures. A half dozen of those a year and you already doing nicely…..
Personally I think you’re doing nicely on just one of those!
If Johnson moves back to New York, can he stand for President in 15 years’ time?
Not unless he could convince SCOTUS that he qualifies as "natural born citizen" despite renouncing his citizenship?
AND the American people are in mood to vote for a Benny Hill impersonator. Likely a LOWER bar than above.
After a Trump, Trump, Trump Jr, and Trump Jr terms after the abolition of limits, perhaps you'd be in the mood for that?
Well, elections ARE about available options NOT perfect scenarios.
BTW, reason BJ renounced his dual citizenship had WAY less to do with his political career (at time anyway) and MORE to do with desire to avoid US taxes.
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Of course, he wouldn't have left it so late otherwise.
Kemi really has picked the wrong week to run against Net Zero.
That's a worry. She's fluent and compelling as a speaker. She has a clear set of views. But what happens when those views collide with reality? Is she the sort of person who tries to change reality rather than her views?
(With hindsight, one of Gove's problems as EdSec was that he had spent the previous few years working out what he wanted to do. Which was fine, he picked up a lot of things that were wrong. But he went in with a fully worked-out blueprint that fell apart on contact with actual teachers and schools. See the Duke of Wellington line about making campaigns out of rope, not iron.)
Lord Ricketts, the UK's first National Security Advisor and a former Joint Intelligence Committee chair, calls the trip “unprecedented”, “shocking”, “extremely risky” and “very dangerous for the minister’s own reputation and an irresponsible thing to do in that climate”.
Chris Steele, former head of MI6’s Russia desk, says it is “extremely potentially compromising … it needs to be properly investigated by the relevant authorities, which in this case is definitely the security service”.
Angela Rayner, Labour deputy leader, told us that if Johnson is "found to have breached the national security protocols that are there to keep us all safe, he has no option but to leave his office immediately and face the full consequences of the law. It's an absolute red line."
On who Johnson went with, I put the rumour that he was accompanied by a specific young woman to Downing Street.
Guto Harri told me that Johnson denies it and: “If you publish this, then the Prime Minister will sue and you can be the first to contribute to his retirement fund.”
Don't forget Boris is homeless, literally homeless, in September, as the properties he owns are rented out (and I bet he needs the readies).
Boris will find someone to put him up. Lord Brownlow or Lord Lebedev or Michael Hintze. Someone like that.
I reckon The Queen will.
In exchange for him not nominating a bunch of chancers for honours.
Palace advisors working to ensure Boris Johnson’s honours list does not ’embarrass’ Queen
Her Majesty’s private secretary Sir Edward Young is understood to be in regular communication with Cabinet Secretary Simon Case over outgoing PM’s rewards to loyalists, business backers and friends
Lord Ricketts, the UK's first National Security Advisor and a former Joint Intelligence Committee chair, calls the trip “unprecedented”, “shocking”, “extremely risky” and “very dangerous for the minister’s own reputation and an irresponsible thing to do in that climate”.
Chris Steele, former head of MI6’s Russia desk, says it is “extremely potentially compromising … it needs to be properly investigated by the relevant authorities, which in this case is definitely the security service”.
Angela Rayner, Labour deputy leader, told us that if Johnson is "found to have breached the national security protocols that are there to keep us all safe, he has no option but to leave his office immediately and face the full consequences of the law. It's an absolute red line."
On who Johnson went with, I put the rumour that he was accompanied by a specific young woman to Downing Street.
Guto Harri told me that Johnson denies it and: “If you publish this, then the Prime Minister will sue and you can be the first to contribute to his retirement fund.”
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Also he specialises in disrupting trials, rather than exposing people who haven't yet been caught.
Do we think that the Huntsman is being lined up as runner-up by a Sunak stealth putsch? Hunt knows he can’t win but will get a big job as runner-up in a Sunak government. Maybe I’m buying MadNad’s conspiracy theories too easily.
I don’t believe Sunak will have the votes to not only get through to the second round but also choose Hunt as the opponent, based purely on the fact that it doesn’t seem Hunts campaign is setting the world on fire, so it would require a big contingent (70 MPs?) potentially to launch him into second place.
There’s plenty of MPs out there who haven’t endorsed Rishi. A good number of those look transfer-friendly to Truss IMHO, unless Penny or Kemi can peel some of them off.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
It's stuff like this that turns people into Nick Griffins. Abuse, and cover up by the establishment.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
For someone who by their own testimony abused girls in Bangkok this shouldn't be a great subject for you. If you think those 16 year olds enjoyed earning money having sex with you well into your 40's ad 50's I think you're deluded.
Kemi really has picked the wrong week to run against Net Zero.
Yep.
What she should be arguing about/making policy on is how we get to zero carbon. Not the target.
If telling people to rip all their gas boilers out isn't going to work then come up with something else.
If we put a man on the moon we can do this.
We didn't NATO did. Also, men are quite small and light. What you should be saying is, We can't deliver the Elizabeth Line except 4 years late and 4bn over budget, and we seriously think we can engineer the entire fucking world out of a problem?
Don't forget Boris is homeless, literally homeless, in September, as the properties he owns are rented out (and I bet he needs the readies).
Boris will find someone to put him up. Lord Brownlow or Lord Lebedev or Michael Hintze. Someone like that.
I reckon The Queen will.
In exchange for him not nominating a bunch of chancers for honours.
Palace advisors working to ensure Boris Johnson’s honours list does not ’embarrass’ Queen
Her Majesty’s private secretary Sir Edward Young is understood to be in regular communication with Cabinet Secretary Simon Case over outgoing PM’s rewards to loyalists, business backers and friends
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Also he specialises in disrupting trials, rather than exposing people who haven't yet been caught.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
For someone who by their own testimony abused girls in Bangkok this shouldn't be a great subject for you. If you think those 16 year olds enjoyed earning money having sex with you well into your 40's ad 50's I think you're deluded.
Lord Ricketts, the UK's first National Security Advisor and a former Joint Intelligence Committee chair, calls the trip “unprecedented”, “shocking”, “extremely risky” and “very dangerous for the minister’s own reputation and an irresponsible thing to do in that climate”.
Chris Steele, former head of MI6’s Russia desk, says it is “extremely potentially compromising … it needs to be properly investigated by the relevant authorities, which in this case is definitely the security service”.
Angela Rayner, Labour deputy leader, told us that if Johnson is "found to have breached the national security protocols that are there to keep us all safe, he has no option but to leave his office immediately and face the full consequences of the law. It's an absolute red line."
On who Johnson went with, I put the rumour that he was accompanied by a specific young woman to Downing Street.
Guto Harri told me that Johnson denies it and: “If you publish this, then the Prime Minister will sue and you can be the first to contribute to his retirement fund.”
So I'm now drowning my sorrows in cans of Sipsmith G&T. It's rather nice and 7.3% ABV; it's definitely helping
Sorry to hear this.
If it's any consolation I went for a job interview last Thursday and didn't get it either - annoyingly, because they had already got an internal candidate lined up.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
For someone who by their own testimony abused girls in Bangkok this shouldn't be a great subject for you. If you think those 16 year olds enjoyed earning money having sex with you well into your 40's ad 50's I think you're deluded.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
It's stuff like this that turns people into Nick Griffins. Abuse, and cover up by the establishment.
Not surprised about Kemi and net zero. She comes across as a very tribal, hyper political politician. Obviously that might appeal to Conservatives in this campaign, but it creates blind spots and is not a great quality for a PM.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
Do we think that the Huntsman is being lined up as runner-up by a Sunak stealth putsch? Hunt knows he can’t win but will get a big job as runner-up in a Sunak government. Maybe I’m buying MadNad’s conspiracy theories too easily.
I don't think there are enough centrist MPs to get both Hunt and Sunak as the last two. I suspect it was simply Javid's supporters switching that put Hunt over the line.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Also he specialises in disrupting trials, rather than exposing people who haven't yet been caught.
So I'm now drowning my sorrows in cans of Sipsmith G&T. It's rather nice and 7.3% ABV; it's definitely helping
Sorry to hear this.
If it's any consolation I went for a job interview last Thursday and didn't get it either - annoyingly, because they had already got an internal candidate lined up.
Better things on the way for you both!
Well, in my case the odds are it will be self-employment, which is what I was planning to do anyway. This would have been a very nice job and more secure than that, plus it would have made certain family problems slightly easier to manage, but losing it is hardly the end of the world.
Bluntly, with cash in the bank, a business I can grow, and a house with no mortgage I am in the very fortunate position of being able to do whatever the hell I like. There are a great many people very much worse off than me, whatever happens next. Starting with my colleagues who are looking in appalled disbelief at the brewing shitstorm in education.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
And there it is. Call me Nick Griffin. The usual
The issue is clear - the deliberate inaction of police forces resulted in these crimes being committed with impunity. Those forces need gutting, starting with the very rotten apples at the top. What I am less clear on is how that is to happen.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
Will the first round just eliminate those below 30 or also the next lowest?
If the bottom two have 30 and 29 votes the latter is the only one to be eliminated. If the bottom two have 29 and 28 votes they're both eliminated.
Spectator says the rumour is that Rishi lent Hunt support to qualify. So he's literally on life-support.
Lay.
What does he have to gain by having Hunt in the contest (presuming he has no actual chance of reaching the final two)? Trying to get Badenoch or Tugendhat knocked out an early stage? I also wonder if Hunt regrets now not taking a job in Boris' cabinet (even though it would have been a demotion). The whole of King over the Water act didn't exactly work out.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Honestly, not the dodgiest modelling I've ever come across. Reminds me of Spotlight (the film).
It does expose a problem - when we have to depend on Leon and his phone calculator to expose how big a problem this might be, something has gone badly wrong.
A simple question: in what towns/cities has this not yet been exposed? And if it really didn't happen in those, why did it happen in Rotherham (etc)?
So, I grew up in Bedford, which has a very large Muslim population. I went to a state school which drew mostly from the lower income parts of the town. And I'm still friends with a lot of people from the area.
As far as I know, there is no Asian grooming scandal in Bedford. And while I certainly have friends who have been raped, none that I know of were victims of the kind of organized ring that happened in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham etc.
My guess is that problems occur when the police are unwilling to act because of concerns about "community relations". And this creates a viscous feedback loop: people see that they aren't going to be prosecuted or investigated, which encourages bad behaviour. And the worse the problem gets, the more and more unwilling the police are to act.
There are a lot of very shitty human beings - if they feel they can rape and abuse without consequence then they will.
When the police and social services “withdrew” from some traveller communities in the 90s, the result was not an improvement in the conditions of many travellers.
Instead, the worst scumbags in their communities took advantage of the situation to brutalise and terrorise their own kind.
But, hey, some people (not travellers) felt better about themselves. So all good there.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Honestly, not the dodgiest modelling I've ever come across. Reminds me of Spotlight (the film).
It does expose a problem - when we have to depend on Leon and his phone calculator to expose how big a problem this might be, something has gone badly wrong.
A simple question: in what towns/cities has this not yet been exposed? And if it really didn't happen in those, why did it happen in Rotherham (etc)?
So, I grew up in Bedford, which has a very large Muslim population. I went to a state school which drew mostly from the lower income parts of the town. And I'm still friends with a lot of people from the area.
As far as I know, there is no Asian grooming scandal in Bedford. And while I certainly have friends who have been raped, none that I know of were victims of the kind of organized ring that happened in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham etc.
My guess is that problems occur when the police are unwilling to act because of concerns about "community relations". And this creates a viscous feedback loop: people see that they aren't going to be prosecuted or investigated, which encourages bad behaviour. And the worse the problem gets, the more and more unwilling the police are to act.
There are a lot of very shitty human beings - if they feel they can rape and abuse without consequence then they will.
The problem is essentially one of poverty, which is widespread. I have no doubt Leon's figures are reasonably accurate.
The problem is often compounded by exceptionally poor policing and misconceptions about racial 'sensitivities'. These issues are of course much more likely to be present in the poorest areas.
Any attempt at dealing with the problem which does not begin by addressing poverty is superficial and therefore likely to fail.
So, I grew up in Bedford, which has a very large Muslim population. I went to a state school which drew mostly from the lower income parts of the town. And I'm still friends with a lot of people from the area.
As far as I know, there is no Asian grooming scandal in Bedford. And while I certainly have friends who have been raped, none that I know of were victims of the kind of organized ring that happened in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham etc.
My guess is that problems occur when the police are unwilling to act because of concerns about "community relations". And this creates a viscous feedback loop: people see that they aren't going to be prosecuted or investigated, which encourages bad behaviour. And the worse the problem gets, the more and more unwilling the police are to act.
There are a lot of very shitty human beings - if they feel they can rape and abuse without consequence then they will.
Sounds right. I was in Nottingham for 13 years - there's a very large Muslim population, but I never heard of any organised rape (and the whole place was a good example of intercommunal rubbing along - even in the Indo-Pakistan wars people agreed not to transfer them locally). Knfie crime, drugs, yes, though not a Muslim issue particularly. Rape gangs? No.
The reality seems to have been that it was a nasty issue in many post-industrial depressed Northern towns (not in, for instance, Liverpool, Sheffield or Manchester). It does need a proper analysis, but not facile arithmetic extrapolation across everywhere.
So I'm now drowning my sorrows in cans of Sipsmith G&T. It's rather nice and 7.3% ABV; it's definitely helping
Sorry to hear this.
If it's any consolation I went for a job interview last Thursday and didn't get it either - annoyingly, because they had already got an internal candidate lined up.
Better things on the way for you both!
Well, in my case the odds are it will be self-employment, which is what I was planning to do anyway. This would have been a very nice job and more secure than that, plus it would have made certain family problems slightly easier to manage, but losing it is hardly the end of the world.
Bluntly, with cash in the bank, a business I can grow, and a house with no mortgage I am in the very fortunate position of being able to do whatever the hell I like. There are a great many people very much worse off than me, whatever happens next. Starting with my colleagues who are looking in appalled disbelief at the brewing shitstorm in education.
So no longer teaching in the new school year? Or doing supply?
I understand why people vote with their feet though.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Oh course. But there still should have been someone in authority acting on his pronouncements.
Even if the conclusion is that the guy is a total racist who’s just making up stuff, there would be evidence that the guy was a racist who was making up stuff. Except that he wasn’t making up stuff, he was actually aware of thousands of girls being raped.
Not surprised about Kemi and net zero. She comes across as a very tribal, hyper political politician. Obviously that might appeal to Conservatives in this campaign, but it creates blind spots and is not a great quality for a PM.
I don't think she's half as formidable as her backers think she is. She'll also undoubtedly be accused of being Gove's puppet.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
That's quite a telling piece of nonsense. Not because he is advocating a 'realistic' scenario wherein Ukraine may not be able to regain all its lost territory. People can believe that it might well come to that, regrettably.
It's because of the talk of NATO membership being the cause of this, and the 'humiliation' of Russia. Those are just Russian talking points.
Trying to disguise what he says as 'unpleasant fact' doesn't hide the use of those talking points, that he has a motivation to defend. It's still nothing more than saying there is a Russian sphere where states are not allowed to be independent if they want and Russian aggression is justified because they were humiliated.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
Cummings has always been dodgy as fuck. The Conservative Seamus Milne.
I think he needs another trip to Barnard Castle. He's obviously not seeing things clearly.
He misses the fundamental point that Putin's view of what is his dream of Greater Russia is that Ukr is totally taken over and as long as Putin is in office that will not change even if 50% of the male youth of Russia are slaughtered.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
Yes, it was a total scandal that no-one in authority took Griffin’s accusations seriously.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
He was (is) a racist.
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Of course, but he made the allegations and everyone ignored him and dismissed him - they should have investigated his allegations, and then called him a racist for making unsubstantiated claims.
Nick Griffin (a racist twat, for the purposes of clarity) wasn't just ignored, he was prosecuted for bringing up grooming gangs
"Rodney Jameson QC, prosecuting, told the jury that Mr Griffin made allegations of paedophile drug rapes by Asian Muslims in Keighley during his speech."
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
Get onto something more frivolous. You are no fun when you go all serious.
I am aware that PB, like the rest of the UK, would really really really rather talk about something - anything - else
I for one salute you, the Nick Griffin of PB.
It's stuff like this that turns people into Nick Griffins. Abuse, and cover up by the establishment.
@JimmySecUK A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
"The inquiry confirms the findings of a Sunday Mirror investigation in 2018 that reported up to 1,000 children in the town may have been victims of child sexual exploitation over 40 years.
"“The extent to which that estimate was accurate has been the subject of debate in Telford,” Crowther said. “I have come to the conclusion that the Sunday Mirror’s estimate is an entirely measured, reasonable and nonsensational assessment.”"
1000 girls over 40 years. And this is just one fairly modest British town. Population 150,000
Let's number crunch
The Muslim population of Telford is 3,000, so about 2%? Less than half the national average of Muslims in proportion to the total
It is estimated that 300 perps are involved in this vile Telford abuse. That means 10% of Telford's Muslim population, 20% of men, 25-30% of male adults, were involved? Mind boggling at first glance. However this was spread over many decades, so it's more like 5% of adult males at any one time, at a very very rough guess (perhaps a better numbergeek can help). Still, 1 in 20 (if these numbers are right, but they make sense if 1000+ girls were abused). Astonishing
Zoom out. 1000 girls abused over 40 years in a town with an half-the-average Muslim population. That means we can read across nationally. Telford is quite representative of the UK as a whole. It is Middle Britain in multiple ways (is is neither north nor south, it is Tory now but it was Labour in 2010)
Telford, if it has been repeated across the UK (and we have seen near-identical patterns in Oldham , Rochdale, Derby, Rotherham, and others) suggests about 400,000 girls have been abused, yet multiply by twice if you factor in the average Muslim population. That is to say, close to Labour MP Sarah Champion's estimate: of "one million girls" which she published in the Sun and the Mirror, and which got her exiled by the Labour Party
For someone who by their own testimony abused girls in Bangkok this shouldn't be a great subject for you. If you think those 16 year olds enjoyed earning money having sex with you well into your 40's ad 50's I think you're deluded.
You have no idea who I am so I suggest you desist
I know what you are and who you are. You are a racist who thinks giving money to 16 year old Thai girls is doing them a favour as you have written in detail on here mor than once. When someone of a different ethnicity does the same thing you find it disgusting as everyone who has read your posts on here this evening can attest.
I suggest you get back to talking about your travels there's less opportunity for hypocrisy.
So I'm now drowning my sorrows in cans of Sipsmith G&T. It's rather nice and 7.3% ABV; it's definitely helping
Sorry to hear this.
If it's any consolation I went for a job interview last Thursday and didn't get it either - annoyingly, because they had already got an internal candidate lined up.
Better things on the way for you both!
Well, in my case the odds are it will be self-employment, which is what I was planning to do anyway. This would have been a very nice job and more secure than that, plus it would have made certain family problems slightly easier to manage, but losing it is hardly the end of the world.
Bluntly, with cash in the bank, a business I can grow, and a house with no mortgage I am in the very fortunate position of being able to do whatever the hell I like. There are a great many people very much worse off than me, whatever happens next. Starting with my colleagues who are looking in appalled disbelief at the brewing shitstorm in education.
So no longer teaching in the new school year? Or doing supply?
I understand why people vote with their feet though.
No. Had enough. Didn't need to go on, and decided after the appalling way I and the teaching profession have been treated in the last five years, of which the disastrous Covid policy was just the tip of the boil, I didn't want to. Who would, ultimately, want to work for drunks and criminals like the DfE for ridiculous hours and mindless abuse from large numbers of idiots?
So - tutoring, probably. If not, writing and music. Was thinking of starting a podcast series - not much money in it but it would be quite fun.
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I am one of the people that has dismissed this as hysterical nonsense - ie when I saw Sarah Champion, Labour MP for Rotherham, say that maybe 1 million girls had been abused by Muslim Grooming Gangs, I reacted with derision and incredulity. 1 million?? FFS
So I ignored it
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029
"Child sex abuse gangs could have assaulted ONE MILLION youngsters in the UK"
1 million? Get out of here. Absurd
And yet if little Telford can have 1000 cases, and Rotherham 1800, and Oldham similar and then Derby, and Southampton, and Oxford and Salford and on and on and on.... then one million becomes horribly plausible
And keep pitching!
Which does have a fast growing population, it's up about 50% in 20 years, but equally started that time from a base of around 165,000.
There will be another opening soon.
It's possible some MPs who originally thought Zahawi or Braverman might be good idea and backed them publicly before things changed, or felt obliged to back them, might not do so in the next round.
In other words, it's possible they get as few as 16 or 17 votes in the first round.
I also wonder if Hunt regrets now not taking a job in Boris' cabinet (even though it would have been a demotion). The whole of King over the Water act didn't exactly work out.
Of course, that's very different from institutional and societal change so it could never happen again.
In exchange for him not nominating a bunch of chancers for honours.
Palace advisors working to ensure Boris Johnson’s honours list does not ’embarrass’ Queen
Her Majesty’s private secretary Sir Edward Young is understood to be in regular communication with Cabinet Secretary Simon Case over outgoing PM’s rewards to loyalists, business backers and friends
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/palace-relies-on-top-civil-servant-to-temper-boris-johnsons-resignation-honours-list-1736380
Apparently The Queen has no veto powers on this.
For the LOLZ Boris Johnson should nominate Prince Andrew for a hereditary peerage of first creation.
He’ll probably squat at Chequers for a month, until he can sort out his arrangements.
More seriously, perhaps it will encourage him to quit as an MP and then he can relocate to the US to earn the big bucks.
Just dismiss the man as a racist, while hundreds of thousands of girls get raped.
I have heard the same, anecdotally: still going on
He also happened to be right on this one issue.
But because he was a racist and sounded like an unhinged Fascist ranting incessantly about brown people the way he had all his life (due to being an unhinged fascist who ranted incessantly about brown people) he was ignored.
Now 26/34
Top 4 treading water.
Hunt edging back in, now 55/65
Who accompanied Boris Johnson to a former KGB agent's villa in Italy after the Skripal poisonings?
Why didn't the then Foreign Secretary say he met Alexander Lebedev?
w/ @claudiabromley.
https://www.tortoisemedia.com/audio/londongrad-the-johnson-affair/?sig=QJV5tdSUHYe8zolNaK0rOGxHsDKAN7kkwQbVzs0hXfk
Lord Ricketts, the UK's first National Security Advisor and a former Joint Intelligence Committee chair,
calls the trip “unprecedented”, “shocking”, “extremely risky” and “very dangerous for the minister’s own reputation and an irresponsible thing to do in that climate”.
Chris Steele, former head of MI6’s Russia desk, says it is “extremely potentially compromising … it needs to be properly investigated by the relevant authorities, which in this case is definitely the security service”.
Angela Rayner, Labour deputy leader, told us that if Johnson is "found to have breached the national security protocols that are there to keep us all safe, he has no option but to leave his office immediately and face the full consequences of the law. It's an absolute red line."
On who Johnson went with, I put the rumour that he was accompanied by a specific young woman to Downing Street.
Guto Harri told me that Johnson denies it and: “If you publish this, then the Prime Minister will sue and you can be the first to contribute to his retirement fund.”
https://twitter.com/pcaruanagalizia/status/1546878294750072845
As far as I know, there is no Asian grooming scandal in Bedford. And while I certainly have friends who have been raped, none that I know of were victims of the kind of organized ring that happened in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham etc.
My guess is that problems occur when the police are unwilling to act because of concerns about "community relations". And this creates a viscous feedback loop: people see that they aren't going to be prosecuted or investigated, which encourages bad behaviour. And the worse the problem gets, the more and more unwilling the police are to act.
There are a lot of very shitty human beings - if they feel they can rape and abuse without consequence then they will.
Have you ever considered that you are the baddie?
I've done lots of job interviews in the past few months after about 4 years of doing none. It is really good experience. I've failed most of them, even where I've been headhunted, but offered some which I have turned down. The main thing I've learned is to work out what you think they are looking for and how to present yourself correctly. Also, to work out what it is you need to know from them; you can suss the situation out, and they will probably appreciate this. Feedback can be really useful and put your mind at rest, often the reason you didn't get the job is something not to do with your shortcomings, but someone else had a particular skillset / experience that they were looking for.
What she should be arguing about/making policy on is how we get to zero carbon. Not the target.
If telling people to rip all their gas boilers out isn't going to work then come up with something else.
If we put a man on the moon we can do this.
BTW, reason BJ renounced his dual citizenship had WAY less to do with his political career (at time anyway) and MORE to do with desire to avoid US taxes.
Interesting blurb re: BJ's US citizenship (have zero clue re: source)
https://www.artiopartners.com/renounce/boris-johnson-renounces-citizenship-tax/
“It’s an accident of birth that has left me with this thing. I’ve got to find a way of sorting it out.”, Mr. Johnson was quoted in the Sunday Times. This “thing” he refers to is the capital gains tax bill he received from the IRS for the sale of his home in London. Johnson stated that it was outrageous to be charged taxes by the IRS when he hasn’t lived in America since he was 5 years old.
Many wonder though if giving up his American citizenship is all about the taxes. Some believe it is his future political aspirations where a dual citizenship could be an obstacle. It is known that Johnson has plans in the next general election to run for Parliament. During his appearance in 2012 on “The Late Show with David Letterman”, Boris did admit he was American and was quoted as saying “a fact I’m trying to conceal to the London electorate.”
When questioned by Letterman about the rumors of Johnson possibly becoming Britain’s next Prime Minister, he laughed and said “I’ve as much chance of being reincarnated as an olive.” During his interview with Letterman in 2006, Johnson did acknowledge to Letterman, “As you’ve already pointed out, I could be President of the United States… technically speaking.” Now that he has renounced his American citizenship though, he is no longer able to run for America’s highest office. . . .
ADDENDUM - Boris Johnson on Late Show [hosted by David Letterman], June 6, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgxuylfPkRg
Come back in 25 years.
(With hindsight, one of Gove's problems as EdSec was that he had spent the previous few years working out what he wanted to do. Which was fine, he picked up a lot of things that were wrong. But he went in with a fully worked-out blueprint that fell apart on contact with actual teachers and schools. See the Duke of Wellington line about making campaigns out of rope, not iron.)
There’s plenty of MPs out there who haven’t endorsed Rishi. A good number of those look transfer-friendly to Truss IMHO, unless Penny or Kemi can peel some of them off.
BBC News - Telford child sex abuse went on for generations, inquiry finds
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-61983584
Would you like more evidence? I'm sure Leon and others will oblige.
Only 2 remaining candidates don't beat him, and one of those is allegedly only still in on borrowed Sunak votes. The man is toxic.
Stick to trying to convince people of your Scottishness.
@JimmySecUK
A screenshot from Dominic Cummings' private Substack, where he advocates forcing Ukraine to cede territory "in the south/east" and advocates no further NATO expansion, ever.
Tory members should know if this man has any involvement in the leadership campaign of any candidate.
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1546926584904425472
I suspect it was simply Javid's supporters switching that put Hunt over the line.
Bluntly, with cash in the bank, a business I can grow, and a house with no mortgage I am in the very fortunate position of being able to do whatever the hell I like. There are a great many people very much worse off than me, whatever happens next. Starting with my colleagues who are looking in appalled disbelief at the brewing shitstorm in education.
Instead, the worst scumbags in their communities took advantage of the situation to brutalise and terrorise their own kind.
But, hey, some people (not travellers) felt better about themselves. So all good there.
The problem is often compounded by exceptionally poor policing and misconceptions about racial 'sensitivities'. These issues are of course much more likely to be present in the poorest areas.
Any attempt at dealing with the problem which does not begin by addressing poverty is superficial and therefore likely to fail.
The reality seems to have been that it was a nasty issue in many post-industrial depressed Northern towns (not in, for instance, Liverpool, Sheffield or Manchester). It does need a proper analysis, but not facile arithmetic extrapolation across everywhere.
I understand why people vote with their feet though.
Even if the conclusion is that the guy is a total racist who’s just making up stuff, there would be evidence that the guy was a racist who was making up stuff. Except that he wasn’t making up stuff, he was actually aware of thousands of girls being raped.
It's because of the talk of NATO membership being the cause of this, and the 'humiliation' of Russia. Those are just Russian talking points.
Trying to disguise what he says as 'unpleasant fact' doesn't hide the use of those talking points, that he has a motivation to defend. It's still nothing more than saying there is a Russian sphere where states are not allowed to be independent if they want and Russian aggression is justified because they were humiliated.
"Rodney Jameson QC, prosecuting, told the jury that Mr Griffin made allegations of paedophile drug rapes by Asian Muslims in Keighley during his speech."
As it turns out, that was all true
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/speeches-by-bnp-leader-led-to-race-hate-charges-1.1003051
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61868863
Looking potentially electrifying.
I suggest you get back to talking about your travels there's less opportunity for hypocrisy.
So - tutoring, probably. If not, writing and music. Was thinking of starting a podcast series - not much money in it but it would be quite fun.