Ben Wallace’s old tweets may come back to haunt him if he decides to run for Tory leader…
While a bit embarrassing I don’t think those are dynamite. The second one won’t do him much harm with the Tory membership and the first is what a few Red Wallers thought in 2015-2017.
Nothing can be ruined now. We get to watch that gormless old twat stand up in the Commons and tell people what non business is being programmed by this non government.
Satire doesn't cove it.
He has only got 8 working days in the HOC fortunately
Hat tip to the good folk of last autumn who were pleased that the UK had burned through to herd immunity and were predicting a happy Covid-free UK by 2022. The nation thanks you for your service.
Look for people who were thick little boys and whom Eton inculcated with plummy accents and apparent good manners but who, when adult, are still fairly dense and stuck in the past.
And yet, weirdly, still somehow smarter than you.
Are you in a fighty mood today? Good to see
She's one of my least favourite posters on this site.
She posts like an eleven-year old, makes utterly facile or idiotic contributions, and routinely drops in and out to drop oblique shotgun negs about other posters like she occupies some sort of high ground and is qualified to comment.
She should stick to shoes, or the soft play, and otherwise leave this site to grown-ups.
Anyway, having watched his money no object campaign video I am once again declaring that I am Ready For Rishi.
If the Tories are serious about winning the next election, you need Rishi Sunak. A northern MP who has shown that he can parachute cash where its needed and puts levelling up front and centre. But he's also clear that we can't mortgage our kids' futures by spending daft.
If the Tories don't pick an Oxford graduate to lead them they tend to pick someone who never went to university at all eg Major or IDS or Churchill. So on that basis Wallace as a non graduate could well make leader. You have to go back to Neville Chamberlain, who went to what became Birmingham University, to find the last Tory leader who went to a University other than Oxford and Baldwin before that who went to Cambridge.
However Wallace is not really an educatonal outsider like say the state educated Major, having been educated at the expensive public school Millfield followed by Sandhurst, as Churchill went to Harrow then Sandhurst.
Starmer would be the third Labour leader post war who did not go to Oxford as an undergraduate after Brown who went to Edinburgh and Kinnock who went to Cardiff, having been to Leeds, though Starmer did go to Oxford as a postgraduate unlike them as the table points out. Corbyn and Callaghan did not go to University. Sunak as well as going to Oxford would be the first Winchester educated PM since Henry Addington.
Look for people who were thick little boys and whom Eton inculcated with plummy accents and apparent good manners but who, when adult, are still fairly dense and stuck in the past.
And yet, weirdly, still somehow smarter than you.
Are you in a fighty mood today? Good to see
She's one of my least favourite posters on this site.
She posts like an eleven-year old, makes utterly facile or idiotic contributions, and routinely drops in and out to drop oblique shotgun negs about other posters like she occupies some sort of high ground and is qualified to comment.
She should stick to shoes, or the soft play, and otherwise leave this site to grown-ups.
Shit, that's half of us gone in the click of Thanos's fingers right there. You, me, lots of others. It'll just be kle4 and the mods.
Anyway, having watched his money no object campaign video I am once again declaring that I am Ready For Rishi.
If the Tories are serious about winning the next election, you need Rishi Sunak. A northern MP who has shown that he can parachute cash where its needed and puts levelling up front and centre. But he's also clear that we can't mortgage our kids' futures by spending daft.
Oxford Steve Baker: Southampton then Oxford Jeremy Hunt: Oxford Rishi Sunak: Oxford Liz Truss: Oxford
Not Oxford Kemi Badenoch: Sussex Steve Barclay: Sandhurst then Cambridge John Baron: Cambridge then Sandhurst Jake Berry: Sheffield Suella Braverman: Cambridge Robert Buckland: Durham Rehman Chishti: Aberystwyth David Davis: Warwick then LBS then Harvard Nadine Dorries: n/a Sajid Javid: Exeter Kwasi Kwarteng: Cambridge then Harvard then Cambridge again Esther McVey: QML then City then Liverpool John Moores Penny Mordaunt: Reading Priti Patel: Keele then Essex Grant Shapps: Manchester Polytechnic (now Manchester Metropolitan University) Tom Tugendhat: Bristol then Cambridge Ben Wallace: Sandhurst Bill Wiggin: Bangor Nadhim Zahawi: UCL
Of the four Oxford types, three read PPE: Liz Truss; Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt
Need to add second places for Suella Braverman (Cambridge then Sorbonne) and Rishi Sunak (Oxford then Stanford).
If the Tories don't pick an Oxford graduate to lead them they tend to pick someone who never went to university at all eg Major or IDS or Churchill. So on that basis Wallace as a non graduate could well make leader. You have to go back to Neville Chamberlain, who went to what became Birmingham University, to find the last Tory leader who went to a University other than Oxford and Baldwin before that who went to Cambridge.
However Wallace is not really an educatonal outsider like say the state educated Major, having been educated at the expensive public school Millfield followed by Sandhurst, as Churchill went to Harrow then Sandhurst.
Starmer would be the third Labour leader post war who did not go to Oxford as an undergraduate after Brown who went to Edinburgh and Kinnock who went to Cardiff, having been to Leeds, though Starmer did go to Oxford as a postgraduate unlike them as the table points out. Corbyn and Callaghan did not go to University. Sunak as well as going to Oxford would be the first Winchester educated PM since Henry Addington.
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
Look for people who were thick little boys and whom Eton inculcated with plummy accents and apparent good manners but who, when adult, are still fairly dense and stuck in the past.
And yet, weirdly, still somehow smarter than you.
Are you in a fighty mood today? Good to see
She's one of my least favourite posters on this site.
She posts like an eleven-year old, makes utterly facile or idiotic contributions, and routinely drops in and out to drop oblique shotgun negs about other posters like she occupies some sort of high ground and is qualified to comment.
She should stick to shoes, or the soft play, and otherwise leave this site to grown-ups.
Shit, that's half of us gone in the click of Thanos's fingers right there. You, me, lots of others. It'll just be kle4 and the mods.
Well, it'd be less riotous, but somewhat bland. Like subsisting on a diet of dry toast and gruel.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Anyway, having watched his money no object campaign video I am once again declaring that I am Ready For Rishi.
If the Tories are serious about winning the next election, you need Rishi Sunak. A northern MP who has shown that he can parachute cash where its needed and puts levelling up front and centre. But he's also clear that we can't mortgage our kids' futures by spending daft.
Rishi talks human. Yes OK so he is a gazillionaire who doesn't know how contactless payments work. But half the candidates are gormless about something, and more than half downright nasty.
Sunak is the bridge between classic Toryism and the new north. He will show how he was whipped along to make mad pledges by the now ousted liar who was obsessed with boosterism. Thus pleasing the fiscal conservatives.
But he is relatively young, photogenic, affable and serious. Which is what we need. Way better than so many of the likely candidates already.
Why should only first degrees count? Bill Clinton went to Georgetown for undergraduate and Barack Obama went to Occidental and Columbia, yet both are considered graduates of Yale and Harvard respectively where they did postgraduate law degrees
Anyway, having watched his money no object campaign video I am once again declaring that I am Ready For Rishi.
If the Tories are serious about winning the next election, you need Rishi Sunak. A northern MP who has shown that he can parachute cash where its needed and puts levelling up front and centre. But he's also clear that we can't mortgage our kids' futures by spending daft.
Rishi talks human. Yes OK so he is a gazillionaire who doesn't know how contactless payments work. But half the candidates are gormless about something, and more than half downright nasty.
Sunak is the bridge between classic Toryism and the new north. He will show how he was whipped along to make mad pledges by the now ousted liar who was obsessed with boosterism. Thus pleasing the fiscal conservatives.
But he is relatively young, photogenic, affable and serious. Which is what we need. Way better than so many of the likely candidates already.
His down to Earth common touch is second to none. The Tory right will be behind him, albeit with a knife.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Wait, Braverman the Brexiteer went to the Sorbonne?
From the font of knowledge Wiki
"Braverman lived in France for two years, as an Erasmus Programme student and then as an Entente Cordiale Scholar, where she completed a master's degree in European and French law at Panthéon-Sorbonne University"
Oxford Steve Baker: Southampton then Oxford Jeremy Hunt: Oxford Rishi Sunak: Oxford Liz Truss: Oxford
Not Oxford Kemi Badenoch: Sussex Steve Barclay: Sandhurst then Cambridge John Baron: Cambridge then Sandhurst Jake Berry: Sheffield Suella Braverman: Cambridge Robert Buckland: Durham Rehman Chishti: Aberystwyth David Davis: Warwick then LBS then Harvard Nadine Dorries: n/a Sajid Javid: Exeter Kwasi Kwarteng: Cambridge then Harvard then Cambridge again Esther McVey: QML then City then Liverpool John Moores Penny Mordaunt: Reading Priti Patel: Keele then Essex Grant Shapps: Manchester Polytechnic (now Manchester Metropolitan University) Tom Tugendhat: Bristol then Cambridge Ben Wallace: Sandhurst Bill Wiggin: Bangor Nadhim Zahawi: UCL
Of the four Oxford types, three read PPE: Liz Truss; Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt
Need to add second places for Suella Braverman (Cambridge then Sorbonne) and Rishi Sunak (Oxford then Stanford).
@TheScreamingEagles will want to know there are only two Cambridge lawyers to pick from: Suella Braverman and Steve Barclay.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
My mum will vote for Truss if she can, my Dad tells me he really wants Sunak to try and rescue the party from its slide, but is worried it won’t happen. Whilst everyone is calling the video slick, my dad told me he was disappointed by it. Personally I think it is rather odd, sort of lacking oomph and going through the motions, what do you think? Maybe it’s becuase it’s a positive message and it’s only attack adds we remember? But it’s on its way to 3 million views already so what do I know. Maybe Roger can comment if this is his specialism?
Wait, Braverman the Brexiteer went to the Sorbonne?
From the font of knowledge Wiki
"Braverman lived in France for two years, as an Erasmus Programme student and then as an Entente Cordiale Scholar, where she completed a master's degree in European and French law at Panthéon-Sorbonne University"
That will be the Erasmus scheme that British students can no longer participate in thanks to her? Nice.
Anyway, having watched his money no object campaign video I am once again declaring that I am Ready For Rishi.
If the Tories are serious about winning the next election, you need Rishi Sunak. A northern MP who has shown that he can parachute cash where its needed and puts levelling up front and centre. But he's also clear that we can't mortgage our kids' futures by spending daft.
Rishi talks human. Yes OK so he is a gazillionaire who doesn't know how contactless payments work. But half the candidates are gormless about something, and more than half downright nasty.
Sunak is the bridge between classic Toryism and the new north. He will show how he was whipped along to make mad pledges by the now ousted liar who was obsessed with boosterism. Thus pleasing the fiscal conservatives.
But he is relatively young, photogenic, affable and serious. Which is what we need. Way better than so many of the likely candidates already.
Rishi can afford to buy his own wallpaper. Ironically, he won't have to because the previous tenants had the place done up.
Oh dear. For how long will they try and cover for him, before admitting that maybe an 80-year-old man is not the best guy to have in charge? Imagine starting to lose your faculties, whilst also being aware that you’re POTUS and the most powerful man in the world.
Look for people who were thick little boys and whom Eton inculcated with plummy accents and apparent good manners but who, when adult, are still fairly dense and stuck in the past.
And yet, weirdly, still somehow smarter than you.
Are you in a fighty mood today? Good to see
She's one of my least favourite posters on this site.
She posts like an eleven-year old, makes utterly facile or idiotic contributions, and routinely drops in and out to drop oblique shotgun negs about other posters like she occupies some sort of high ground and is qualified to comment.
She should stick to shoes, or the soft play, and otherwise leave this site to grown-ups.
What are you doing here then? Go boil some p*ss, that always seems to make you happy.
Wait, Braverman the Brexiteer went to the Sorbonne?
From the font of knowledge Wiki
"Braverman lived in France for two years, as an Erasmus Programme student and then as an Entente Cordiale Scholar, where she completed a master's degree in European and French law at Panthéon-Sorbonne University"
That will be the Erasmus scheme that British students can no longer participate in thanks to her? Nice.
It really does boil my piss when pols pull up the ladder after them. Enormously, and I don't even have any children at uni. It is so outright immoral to deny others the advantages one had.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
Oxford Steve Baker: Southampton then Oxford Jeremy Hunt: Oxford Rishi Sunak: Oxford Liz Truss: Oxford
Not Oxford Kemi Badenoch: Sussex Steve Barclay: Sandhurst then Cambridge John Baron: Cambridge then Sandhurst Jake Berry: Sheffield Suella Braverman: Cambridge Robert Buckland: Durham Rehman Chishti: Aberystwyth David Davis: Warwick then LBS then Harvard Nadine Dorries: n/a Sajid Javid: Exeter Kwasi Kwarteng: Cambridge then Harvard then Cambridge again Esther McVey: QML then City then Liverpool John Moores Penny Mordaunt: Reading Priti Patel: Keele then Essex Grant Shapps: Manchester Polytechnic (now Manchester Metropolitan University) Tom Tugendhat: Bristol then Cambridge Ben Wallace: Sandhurst Bill Wiggin: Bangor Nadhim Zahawi: UCL
Of the four Oxford types, three read PPE: Liz Truss; Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt
Need to add second places for Suella Braverman (Cambridge then Sorbonne) and Rishi Sunak (Oxford then Stanford).
@TheScreamingEagles will want to know there are only two Cambridge lawyers to pick from: Suella Braverman and Steve Barclay.
Cambridge educated lawyers have more important jobs to do than be PM or some menial job as a Secretary of State.
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
Oh dear. For how long will they try and cover for him, before admitting that maybe an 80-year-old man is not the best guy to have in charge? Imagine starting to lose your faculties, whilst also being aware that you’re POTUS and the most powerful man in the world.
I am heading to 80 but really how can he be so stupid
Oh dear. For how long will they try and cover for him, before admitting that maybe an 80-year-old man is not the best guy to have in charge? Imagine starting to lose your faculties, whilst also being aware that you’re POTUS and the most powerful man in the world.
Look at the Veep’s face as Biden fluffs his lines again. Suppressed panic: Get Me Out Of Here
Uncannily like some of the faces Trump’s aides would pull during HIS insane speeches
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
I celebrate the diversity of having open homophobes on the site. Which means I'm a metropolitan liberal who doesn't understand the Red Wall. Or summat. Still. It'll be different in the 2030's old fella me lad.
Who's a homophobe?
Another classic sign of being Woke: saying that anyone who objects to Woke is a bigot.
Er, no. Someone was celebrating the idea of propaganda (their word) use for a 'populist' government to repeal gay marriage, because it was accepted a majority do not and would not back it (and thus is not populist at all).
Woke has nothing to do with it. I'm opposed to a lot of silly stuff that bears the woke label, but this had nothing to do with it. Unless knowing gay people is a 'metropolitan bubble' thing is thought to be a sensible point.
My point was that when you say 'Woke is a problem ' the usual response of the Woke is to say 'what's Woke?' and then when you give examples of its dogmatic, obsessive and divisive nature to say 'so you think racism/ sexism/ homophobia is ok then?'.
This is a classic sign of being Woke. It's totally impervious to criticism or reason.
My I ask (gently) do you think that there are zero homophobic people posting on PB?
Or are you objecting to someone being charged with homophobia on here due to something they post?
Seems to me, from my perspective, that you are very close to saying, that anyone alleging that someone or something is anti-gay, is ipso facto woke. Is that incorrect re: your views?
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
He won't, he is the David Miliband or Michael Portillo of this race, too liberal, too slick, too presumptuous when what the party wanted was a return to traditional socialist or social democrat values with Ed Miliband or traditional Conservative values with IDS.
Wallace also beat Sunak 51% to 30% in the recent Yougov Tory members poll
Oh dear. For how long will they try and cover for him, before admitting that maybe an 80-year-old man is not the best guy to have in charge? Imagine starting to lose your faculties, whilst also being aware that you’re POTUS and the most powerful man in the world.
Look at the Veep’s face as Biden fluffs his lines again. Suppressed panic: Get Me Out Of Here
Uncannily like some of the faces Trump’s aides would pull during HIS insane speeches
Shape Up, Merika
All while China ruthlessly take control of every aspect from tik tok to international ML conferences.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
Only if Wallace runs - and an awful lot of people seem to think he won't (sensible person).
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
He won't, he is the David Miliband or Michael Portillo of this race, too liberal, too slick, too presumptuous when what the party wanted was a return to traditional socialist or social democrat values with Ed Miliband or traditional Conservative values with IDS
All while China ruthlessly take control of every aspect from tik tok to international ML conferences.
I'm sort of relaxed about China ruthlessly controlling tik tok. What do you fear they'll do with it?
They ruthlessly control the message shown...in China it is used a propaganda tool, the west it can (and is) used to sow discontent....why use twitter / facebook like Russia, when you can just control the platform itself.
They also harvest all the info from it. Its like the worst of Meta behaviour on steroids. It is something Trump was actually right on (advised by security agencies).
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
He won't, he is the David Miliband or Michael Portillo of this race, too liberal, too slick, too presumptuous when what the party wanted was a return to traditional socialist or social democrat values with Ed Miliband or traditional Conservative values with IDS
But the Tories are in government, not smarting after an electoral defeat. Surely they will go for someone serious this time, and only go full Tonto when they lose the next election?
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
Wallace beats Sunak 51% to 30% in the recent Yougov Tory members poll
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
If it has to be a Leaver for the Tory membership then I think Sunak seems a bit more pragmatic and less likely to be divisive and in constant conflict with the EU .
So as a Remainer I find him the most palatable of the Leavers so far who are expected to put their names forward .
The SDP-Green coalition has won a vote in the Bundestag backing more coal burning so that the three remaining nuclear plants can be switched off as planned this year. Climate targets may have to be abandoned as a result.
Oh dear. For how long will they try and cover for him, before admitting that maybe an 80-year-old man is not the best guy to have in charge? Imagine starting to lose your faculties, whilst also being aware that you’re POTUS and the most powerful man in the world.
Look at the Veep’s face as Biden fluffs his lines again. Suppressed panic: Get Me Out Of Here
Uncannily like some of the faces Trump’s aides would pull during HIS insane speeches
Shape Up, Merika
It's weird to think that if Iowa Democrats had not fucked up royally, it would be President Buttigieg right now.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
Wallace beats Sunak 51% to 30% in the recent Yougov Tory members poll
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
A bit too smooth from Sunak though in my view. I had thought Hunt, but I now think Tugendhat.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
Wallace beats Sunak 51% to 30% in the recent Yougov Tory members poll
C4 News is saying the Tory members (plurality) back Rishi. I agree his campaign looks too Portilloish. He will not win. But I don't think it's racism. The members will vote for Badenoch, but not this time round.
Oh dear. For how long will they try and cover for him, before admitting that maybe an 80-year-old man is not the best guy to have in charge? Imagine starting to lose your faculties, whilst also being aware that you’re POTUS and the most powerful man in the world.
Look at the Veep’s face as Biden fluffs his lines again. Suppressed panic: Get Me Out Of Here
Uncannily like some of the faces Trump’s aides would pull during HIS insane speeches
Shape Up, Merika
It's weird to think that if Iowa Democrats had not fucked up royally, it would be President Buttigieg right now.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
You mean you do not want Rishi and you have this idea you represent the membership which you do not
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
Wallace beats Sunak 51% to 30% in the recent Yougov Tory members poll
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
He would certainly beat Hunt in the final round with the members.
There’s always a stop someone? Stop Tarzan. Get Ken - Europhile traitor - get Portillo - stop Howard - knock Gove out - what DON’T we want? Angela Leadsome.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate. If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak's slick 'Ready for Rishi' website has obviously been ready well before this launch.
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
Is it fair to remark there is something a bit “Stop Rishi” creeping into your posts HY?
Is it the fact Rishi did bare minimum helping Boris this year, knifed Boris occasionally with “I would not have used that remark” comments, and has clearly been working with others for weeks if not months on this video that makes you cross he is a bit disloyal? Or is it Rishi’s record in the treasury of wasting eye watering sums on fraud, presided over lack of due diligence whilst happy to roll around in the limelight of praise of taxpayers money he was throwing around like confetti that you don’t think deserves rewarding with the top job?
C4 News is saying the Tory members (plurality) back Rishi. I agree his campaign looks too Portilloish. He will not win. But I don't think it's racism. The members will vote for Badenoch, but not this time round.
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
He won't, he is the David Miliband or Michael Portillo of this race, too liberal, too slick, too presumptuous when what the party wanted was a return to traditional socialist or social democrat values with Ed Miliband or traditional Conservative values with IDS
He very well may and confound your panic
I suspect that in these circumstances, @HYUFD is probably representative of other Tory members. Of course, if there is a coronation, the members will have no choice.
All while China ruthlessly take control of every aspect from tik tok to international ML conferences.
I'm sort of relaxed about China ruthlessly controlling tik tok. What do you fear they'll do with it?
They ruthlessly control the message shown...in China it is used a propaganda tool, the west it can (and is) used to sow discontent....why use twitter / facebook like Russia, when you can just control the platform itself.
They also harvest all the info from it. Its like the worst of Meta behaviour on steroids. It is something Trump was actually right on (advised by security agencies).
Aside from that, would should an ex-Communist fear from it?
It's going to be Sunak. He ticks all the boxes: supported by MPs, members will vote for him, possesses rudimentary political skills and is a serious person. I think all the other candidates fail on at least one of those grounds. I think support will coalesce around him quickly and he will beat Truss or whoever else is up against him in the members' vote.
He won't, he is the David Miliband or Michael Portillo of this race, too liberal, too slick, too presumptuous when what the party wanted was a return to traditional socialist or social democrat values with Ed Miliband or traditional Conservative values with IDS
He very well may and confound your panic
I suspect that in these circumstances, @HYUFD is probably representative of other Tory members. Of course, if there is a coronation, the members will have no choice.
Not according to C4 News who confirm conservative members back Rishi
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She posts like an eleven-year old, makes utterly facile or idiotic contributions, and routinely drops in and out to drop oblique shotgun negs about other posters like she occupies some sort of high ground and is qualified to comment.
She should stick to shoes, or the soft play, and otherwise leave this site to grown-ups.
If the Tories are serious about winning the next election, you need Rishi Sunak. A northern MP who has shown that he can parachute cash where its needed and puts levelling up front and centre. But he's also clear that we can't mortgage our kids' futures by spending daft.
https://conservativehome.com/2022/07/08/next-tory-leader-whos-backing-whom-our-working-list/
However Wallace is not really an educatonal outsider like say the state educated Major, having been educated at the expensive public school Millfield followed by Sandhurst, as Churchill went to Harrow then Sandhurst.
Starmer would be the third Labour leader post war who did not go to Oxford as an undergraduate after Brown who went to Edinburgh and Kinnock who went to Cardiff, having been to Leeds, though Starmer did go to Oxford as a postgraduate unlike them as the table points out. Corbyn and Callaghan did not go to University. Sunak as well as going to Oxford would be the first Winchester educated PM since Henry Addington.
It'll just be kle4 and the mods.
Which is pronounced "Lewisville" by totally clueless, "Loueeville" by outsiders and "Lulvul" by locals.
The more you can say it as a single semi-syllable the more local you is.
Need to add second places for Suella Braverman (Cambridge then Sorbonne) and Rishi Sunak (Oxford then Stanford).
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1545441526133788673?s=20&t=lJ_hlqafj7ODRvRDRX7GeQ
However, would insist on recruiting next PM from some frat-boy dining club besides Bullington.
https://twitter.com/mark_lynas/status/1545345583262695424?s=20&t=lJ_hlqafj7ODRvRDRX7GeQ
He was appointed to the Premiership on the advice of Baldwin and he was replaced by Churchill. No election either time.
Just watched ITN news and it was framed as “disloyal Sunak who brought down Boris.” He’s the “get the disloyal one” candidate.
If Rishi in last two with Truss, Rishi is by far the better communicator, but she gets the “stop the traitor” votes. Pest did reveal 1st bar is 20 (TWENTY) nominations by the way.
Sunak is the bridge between classic Toryism and the new north. He will show how he was whipped along to make mad pledges by the now ousted liar who was obsessed with boosterism. Thus pleasing the fiscal conservatives.
But he is relatively young, photogenic, affable and serious. Which is what we need. Way better than so many of the likely candidates already.
Peter Fucking Bone - Minister.
I don't think there is any other constituency in that style.
"Braverman lived in France for two years, as an Erasmus Programme student and then as an Entente Cordiale Scholar, where she completed a master's degree in European and French law at Panthéon-Sorbonne University"
(a) a majority wanted Johnson to stay as leader
(b) Rishi Sunak has a slight lead with 25%, over Liz Truss.
You mean, it makes them members of whatever the C of E has instead of a proper General Assembly?
Pompous ass!
Most of the membership would still be supporting Johnson even if he blew up a school bus .
Just like Portillo he has launched straight out the blocks with a slick, liberal metropolitan focused campaign.
However Tory members and most Tory MPs aren't looking for that now, they want a decent, straight laced traditional Tory who will return to Conservative values. Wallace could well be the IDS or Douglas Home or Major of this race therefore to Sunak's Portillo or Rab Butler or Heseltine.
Uncannily like some of the faces Trump’s aides would pull during HIS insane speeches
Shape Up, Merika
Or are you objecting to someone being charged with homophobia on here due to something they post?
Seems to me, from my perspective, that you are very close to saying, that anyone alleging that someone or something is anti-gay, is ipso facto woke. Is that incorrect re: your views?
Wallace also beat Sunak 51% to 30% in the recent Yougov Tory members poll
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1544984543555371010?s=20&t=Hkrayn5myVcMmAbISYCotw
You are consistent but when the membership elects him what on earth are you going to do
They also harvest all the info from it. Its like the worst of Meta behaviour on steroids. It is something Trump was actually right on (advised by security agencies).
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1544984543555371010?s=20&t=Hkrayn5myVcMmAbISYCotw
https://twitter.com/rhodri/status/1111254719777914881
So as a Remainer I find him the most palatable of the Leavers so far who are expected to put their names forward .
@andrealeadsom
Young Tories want either Penny Mordaunt or Steve Baker as the next Prime Minister, poll reveals
https://twitter.com/andrealeadsom/status/1545459058546712576
A lot swings on quite who comes out in support.
I agree his campaign looks too Portilloish. He will not win. But I don't think it's racism. The members will vote for Badenoch, but not this time round.
Is it the fact Rishi did bare minimum helping Boris this year, knifed Boris occasionally with “I would not have used that remark” comments, and has clearly been working with others for weeks if not months on this video that makes you cross he is a bit disloyal? Or is it Rishi’s record in the treasury of wasting eye watering sums on fraud, presided over lack of due diligence whilst happy to roll around in the limelight of praise of taxpayers money he was throwing around like confetti that you don’t think deserves rewarding with the top job?