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  • IshmaelZ said:

    I hope the TV coverage is better than recently for the Glasto. I like the line ups on the main stages,
    as I look down the list much to peak my interest.

    RUFUS WAINWRIGHT: 13:45 – 14:45
    KENDRICK LAMAR: 21:45 – 23:15

    LORDE: 19:30 – 20:45

    ELBOW: 17:45 – 18:45

    DIANA ROSS: 16:00 – 17:15

    HERBIE HANCOCK: 14:00 – 15:00
    FOALS: 22:30 – 23:45

    ST VINCENT: 20:30 – 21:30

    IDLES: 18:45 – 19:45

    SUPERGRASS: 17:15 – 18:15
    PET SHOP BOYS: 21:45 – 23:15

    YEARS & YEARS: 19:45 – 20:45
    PRIMAL SCREAM: 22:30 – 23:45
    CHARLI XCX: 21:30 – 22:45
    THE AVALANCHES: 19:45 – 20:45

    But on the other hand, that’s only because I listen to a lot of music from before my time - overall this does look like it’s been put together by someone born mid eighties?

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-festival-2022-stage-set-times-full-line-up-3236490

    I hope the TV coverage is better than recently for the Glasto. I like the line ups on the main stages,
    as I look down the list much to peak my interest.

    RUFUS WAINWRIGHT: 13:45 – 14:45
    KENDRICK LAMAR: 21:45 – 23:15

    LORDE: 19:30 – 20:45

    ELBOW: 17:45 – 18:45

    DIANA ROSS: 16:00 – 17:15

    HERBIE HANCOCK: 14:00 – 15:00
    FOALS: 22:30 – 23:45

    ST VINCENT: 20:30 – 21:30

    IDLES: 18:45 – 19:45

    SUPERGRASS: 17:15 – 18:15
    PET SHOP BOYS: 21:45 – 23:15

    YEARS & YEARS: 19:45 – 20:45
    PRIMAL SCREAM: 22:30 – 23:45
    CHARLI XCX: 21:30 – 22:45
    THE AVALANCHES: 19:45 – 20:45

    But on the other hand, that’s only because I listen to a lot of music from before my time - overall this does look like it’s been put together by someone born mid eighties?

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-festival-2022-stage-set-times-full-line-up-3236490

    it's pique not peak, and while i'm here, en masse and not on mass

    That lot leaves me cold. I thought Diana Ross was dead? the closest I have ever come to fame was talking to her on the phone. I'd pay £20 to hear Lorde for 75 minutes. Otherwise, what?
    Seems a long time to spend hearing one song.
    Are you a Russian bloke? You're like the most pro Russian guy here, just curious
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    dixiedean said:

    It's all of a piece.
    You de-professionalise the Public Sector.
    Then faux outrage when the Passport Office and DVLA are useless.
    It worked in Further Education.
    Surprise when we have a skills shortage.
    Then privatise.
    Leading to thousands of private sector management consultants at twice the price.
    And your average frontline worker on zero hours contracts.

    Yes, but are there any disadvantages?
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,871

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    An argument about IP addresses used to access this site was used the other day, as evidence of being "dodgy".

    I use iCloud Private Relay, which I think might even be turned on by default now. This hides my IP address, do your worst

    VPN is not an issue CHB, some however used or claimed to use vpn's where the ip resolved to a compromised address used by spammers. A legitimate VPN would not do so. Either there VPN isnt legitimate or their core pc is compromised. When told this they went....I use a vpn get over it. Many people here probably do....we don't end up with posts coming from known troll or scam ranges however.
    Technically speaking iCloud Private Relay is not a VPN but I take your point
    No but you don't post from a compromised ip regardless and if you were told you were you would find out why and fix it CHB
    That's the first compliment I think you've ever given me
    Shrugs I dont really hate anyone, I can be somewhat blunt when I think people are wrong is all. I don't plan to apologise for that
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    edited May 2022
    Maybe it's time for us to start describing these VONC ballots as "leadership spills" like they do in Australia.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:

    I hope the TV coverage is better than recently for the Glasto. I like the line ups on the main stages,
    as I look down the list much to peak my interest.

    RUFUS WAINWRIGHT: 13:45 – 14:45
    KENDRICK LAMAR: 21:45 – 23:15

    LORDE: 19:30 – 20:45

    ELBOW: 17:45 – 18:45

    DIANA ROSS: 16:00 – 17:15

    HERBIE HANCOCK: 14:00 – 15:00
    FOALS: 22:30 – 23:45

    ST VINCENT: 20:30 – 21:30

    IDLES: 18:45 – 19:45

    SUPERGRASS: 17:15 – 18:15
    PET SHOP BOYS: 21:45 – 23:15

    YEARS & YEARS: 19:45 – 20:45
    PRIMAL SCREAM: 22:30 – 23:45
    CHARLI XCX: 21:30 – 22:45
    THE AVALANCHES: 19:45 – 20:45

    But on the other hand, that’s only because I listen to a lot of music from before my time - overall this does look like it’s been put together by someone born mid eighties?

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-festival-2022-stage-set-times-full-line-up-3236490

    I hope the TV coverage is better than recently for the Glasto. I like the line ups on the main stages,
    as I look down the list much to peak my interest.

    RUFUS WAINWRIGHT: 13:45 – 14:45
    KENDRICK LAMAR: 21:45 – 23:15

    LORDE: 19:30 – 20:45

    ELBOW: 17:45 – 18:45

    DIANA ROSS: 16:00 – 17:15

    HERBIE HANCOCK: 14:00 – 15:00
    FOALS: 22:30 – 23:45

    ST VINCENT: 20:30 – 21:30

    IDLES: 18:45 – 19:45

    SUPERGRASS: 17:15 – 18:15
    PET SHOP BOYS: 21:45 – 23:15

    YEARS & YEARS: 19:45 – 20:45
    PRIMAL SCREAM: 22:30 – 23:45
    CHARLI XCX: 21:30 – 22:45
    THE AVALANCHES: 19:45 – 20:45

    But on the other hand, that’s only because I listen to a lot of music from before my time - overall this does look like it’s been put together by someone born mid eighties?

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-festival-2022-stage-set-times-full-line-up-3236490

    it's pique not peak, and while i'm here, en masse and not on mass

    That lot leaves me cold. I thought Diana Ross was dead? the closest I have ever come to fame was talking to her on the phone. I'd pay £20 to hear Lorde for 75 minutes. Otherwise, what?
    Seems a long time to spend hearing one song.
    I will probably go to my deathbed wondering what point you think you are making there. Are you sure you don't have a rock dust deficit?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    EPG said:

    AlistairM said:

    The EU have got through a new sanctions package on Russia. They have done it by not stopping the oil. Isn't the EU marvellous?

    https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1531394254836224003

    You can blame the Brexiteers' favourite populist-nationalist friend, Hungary.
    They’re a convenient scapegoat for other member states.
    That's true - but they have also opposed pretty much every sanction.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,871
    rcs1000 said:

    EPG said:

    AlistairM said:

    The EU have got through a new sanctions package on Russia. They have done it by not stopping the oil. Isn't the EU marvellous?

    https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1531394254836224003

    You can blame the Brexiteers' favourite populist-nationalist friend, Hungary.
    They’re a convenient scapegoat for other member states.
    That's true - but they have also opposed pretty much every sanction.
    hungarians have always been contrary cf open all hours for arkwrights hungarian nephew nods
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    ...

    Westminster Voting Intention (29 May):

    Labour 43% (+3)
    Conservative 36% (+5)
    Liberal Democrat 10% (-4)
    Green 5% (–)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Reform UK 2% (-1)
    Other 2% (–)

    Changes +/- 25 May

    Labour at 1997

    Labour 11 short of a majority re electoral calculus even on those figures
    How many times a week do I have to tell HYUFD that UNS is a mirage? It seems you have joined his club.

    If Labour were on 43 and Cons on 36, I would be more than shocked if there was not a Labour majority and a reasonably comfortable one. The reality is, I doubt they are anywhere near 43%.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    "California needs a recession
    Its progressive rulers deserve a rude awakening
    Joel Kotkin"

    https://unherd.com/2022/05/california-needs-a-recession/
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    Andy_JS said:

    "California needs a recession
    Its progressive rulers deserve a rude awakening
    Joel Kotkin"

    https://unherd.com/2022/05/california-needs-a-recession/

    "For years California has been severely underperforming its main rivals — Texas, Washington, Arizona and Utah — in construction, manufacturing and professional and business services. Over the past decade, roughly 80% of all jobs created in California paid below the median income, creating an ever-expanding working class in low-end service industries."
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,716
    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I hope the TV coverage is better than recently for the Glasto. I like the line ups on the main stages,
    as I look down the list much to peak my interest.

    RUFUS WAINWRIGHT: 13:45 – 14:45
    KENDRICK LAMAR: 21:45 – 23:15

    LORDE: 19:30 – 20:45

    ELBOW: 17:45 – 18:45

    DIANA ROSS: 16:00 – 17:15

    HERBIE HANCOCK: 14:00 – 15:00
    FOALS: 22:30 – 23:45

    ST VINCENT: 20:30 – 21:30

    IDLES: 18:45 – 19:45

    SUPERGRASS: 17:15 – 18:15
    PET SHOP BOYS: 21:45 – 23:15

    YEARS & YEARS: 19:45 – 20:45
    PRIMAL SCREAM: 22:30 – 23:45
    CHARLI XCX: 21:30 – 22:45
    THE AVALANCHES: 19:45 – 20:45

    But on the other hand, that’s only because I listen to a lot of music from before my time - overall this does look like it’s been put together by someone born mid eighties?

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-festival-2022-stage-set-times-full-line-up-3236490

    I hope the TV coverage is better than recently for the Glasto. I like the line ups on the main stages,
    as I look down the list much to peak my interest.

    RUFUS WAINWRIGHT: 13:45 – 14:45
    KENDRICK LAMAR: 21:45 – 23:15

    LORDE: 19:30 – 20:45

    ELBOW: 17:45 – 18:45

    DIANA ROSS: 16:00 – 17:15

    HERBIE HANCOCK: 14:00 – 15:00
    FOALS: 22:30 – 23:45

    ST VINCENT: 20:30 – 21:30

    IDLES: 18:45 – 19:45

    SUPERGRASS: 17:15 – 18:15
    PET SHOP BOYS: 21:45 – 23:15

    YEARS & YEARS: 19:45 – 20:45
    PRIMAL SCREAM: 22:30 – 23:45
    CHARLI XCX: 21:30 – 22:45
    THE AVALANCHES: 19:45 – 20:45

    But on the other hand, that’s only because I listen to a lot of music from before my time - overall this does look like it’s been put together by someone born mid eighties?

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/glastonbury-festival-2022-stage-set-times-full-line-up-3236490

    it's pique not peak, and while i'm here, en masse and not on mass

    That lot leaves me cold. I thought Diana Ross was dead? the closest I have ever come to fame was talking to her on the phone. I'd pay £20 to hear Lorde for 75 minutes. Otherwise, what?
    Seems a long time to spend hearing one song.
    I will probably go to my deathbed wondering what point you think you are making there. Are you sure you don't have a rock dust deficit?
    Pet Shop boys will probably steal the show again. Even on "Other Stage".

    I'd pay good money for Robert Plant and Wolf Alice. Otherwise, hmmm....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,997
    edited May 2022
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "California needs a recession
    Its progressive rulers deserve a rude awakening
    Joel Kotkin"

    https://unherd.com/2022/05/california-needs-a-recession/

    "For years California has been severely underperforming its main rivals — Texas, Washington, Arizona and Utah — in construction, manufacturing and professional and business services. Over the past decade, roughly 80% of all jobs created in California paid below the median income, creating an ever-expanding working class in low-end service industries."
    I was watching a video yesterday about the failure of the high speed rail line in California. Staggering political mismanagement e.g putting into the referendum (whose exact terms are legally binding under Californian law and can't be amended piece-meal) things like the average speed of the train must exceed 240 mph....which not even the Japanese or Chinese bullet trains can achieve over similar journey types and even if you could magically be better would require you to run trains at ultra high speed in certain sections which would mean incredible cost.
  • PensfoldPensfold Posts: 191
    What Cyclefree doesn't tell us is who is on the interveiw panel for the National Crime Agency job. Presumably the interview panel are all senior civil servants. Is Cyclefree claiming they would allow themselves to be brow beaten?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "California needs a recession
    Its progressive rulers deserve a rude awakening
    Joel Kotkin"

    https://unherd.com/2022/05/california-needs-a-recession/

    "For years California has been severely underperforming its main rivals — Texas, Washington, Arizona and Utah — in construction, manufacturing and professional and business services. Over the past decade, roughly 80% of all jobs created in California paid below the median income, creating an ever-expanding working class in low-end service industries."
    I was watching a video yesterday about the failure of the high speed rail line in California. Staggering political mismanagement e.g putting into the referendum (whose exact terms are legally binding under Californian law and can't be amended piece-meal) things like the average speed of the train must exceed 240 mph....which not even the Japanese or Chinese bullet trains can achieve over similar journey types and even if you could magically be better would require you to run trains at ultra high speed in certain sections which would mean incredible cost.
    Oh, the Californian referendum (i.e. "ballot proposition") system is completely b0rked.

    Over the years, they've had ballot propositions:

    1. Insisting taxes don't rise
    2. That the State doesn't run a deficit (ever)
    3. That certain parts of the budget don't get cut

    It's a total shit show, which results in the State running insane surpluses when times are good ($95bn surplus this year!), but then having to cleave the education budget 50% in a year when the economy falls into recession, because even though they had a massive surplus the previous year, they can't spend it, they can't raise taxes, and they can only cut a very limited number of line items on the budget.

    Those problems aren't the consequence of a "woke" administration (Newsom is pretty moderate), they're the consequence of an electorate voting for a series of contradictory propositions, that politicians are then bound by.

    And, fwiw, when the next recession comes, unless the voters realise that they have set up a series of impossible and self defeating goals, then all that will happen is a different set of politicians with a different hue run up against the madness of the ballot proposition system.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "California needs a recession
    Its progressive rulers deserve a rude awakening
    Joel Kotkin"

    https://unherd.com/2022/05/california-needs-a-recession/

    "For years California has been severely underperforming its main rivals — Texas, Washington, Arizona and Utah — in construction, manufacturing and professional and business services. Over the past decade, roughly 80% of all jobs created in California paid below the median income, creating an ever-expanding working class in low-end service industries."
    I was watching a video yesterday about the failure of the high speed rail line in California. Staggering political mismanagement e.g putting into the referendum (whose exact terms are legally binding under Californian law and can't be amended piece-meal) things like the average speed of the train must exceed 240 mph....which not even the Japanese or Chinese bullet trains can achieve over similar journey types and even if you could magically be better would require you to run trains at ultra high speed in certain sections which would mean incredible cost.
    Have you seen Brightline in Florida? Not exactly high speed (max 120mph) but building new private routes with premium service:

    https://www.gobrightline.com/

    They’ll also ferry you door-to-door with integrated rideshare at both ends,

    It’s mostly on existing track, but they are putting billions into dualling, new bridges and tunnels and so on.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,997
    edited May 2022
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "California needs a recession
    Its progressive rulers deserve a rude awakening
    Joel Kotkin"

    https://unherd.com/2022/05/california-needs-a-recession/

    "For years California has been severely underperforming its main rivals — Texas, Washington, Arizona and Utah — in construction, manufacturing and professional and business services. Over the past decade, roughly 80% of all jobs created in California paid below the median income, creating an ever-expanding working class in low-end service industries."
    I was watching a video yesterday about the failure of the high speed rail line in California. Staggering political mismanagement e.g putting into the referendum (whose exact terms are legally binding under Californian law and can't be amended piece-meal) things like the average speed of the train must exceed 240 mph....which not even the Japanese or Chinese bullet trains can achieve over similar journey types and even if you could magically be better would require you to run trains at ultra high speed in certain sections which would mean incredible cost.
    Oh, the Californian referendum (i.e. "ballot proposition") system is completely b0rked.

    Over the years, they've had ballot propositions:

    1. Insisting taxes don't rise
    2. That the State doesn't run a deficit (ever)
    3. That certain parts of the budget don't get cut

    It's a total shit show, which results in the State running insane surpluses when times are good ($95bn surplus this year!), but then having to cleave the education budget 50% in a year when the economy falls into recession, because even though they had a massive surplus the previous year, they can't spend it, they can't raise taxes, and they can only cut a very limited number of line items on the budget.

    Those problems aren't the consequence of a "woke" administration (Newsom is pretty moderate), they're the consequence of an electorate voting for a series of contradictory propositions, that politicians are then bound by.

    And, fwiw, when the next recession comes, unless the voters realise that they have set up a series of impossible and self defeating goals, then all that will happen is a different set of politicians with a different hue run up against the madness of the ballot proposition system.
    Trusting people with referendums, terrible idea......
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708

    ...

    Westminster Voting Intention (29 May):

    Labour 43% (+3)
    Conservative 36% (+5)
    Liberal Democrat 10% (-4)
    Green 5% (–)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Reform UK 2% (-1)
    Other 2% (–)

    Changes +/- 25 May

    Labour at 1997

    Labour 11 short of a majority re electoral calculus even on those figures
    How many times a week do I have to tell HYUFD that UNS is a mirage? It seems you have joined his club.

    If Labour were on 43 and Cons on 36, I would be more than shocked if there was not a Labour majority and a reasonably comfortable one. The reality is, I doubt they are anywhere near 43%.
    UNS isn't perfect but it's a better predictor than the alternatives people here have come up with from time to time, like believing constituency polling or making up theories that would make the thing we want to be true true.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    An argument about IP addresses used to access this site was used the other day, as evidence of being "dodgy".

    I use iCloud Private Relay, which I think might even be turned on by default now. This hides my IP address, do your worst

    VPN is not an issue CHB, some however used or claimed to use vpn's where the ip resolved to a compromised address used by spammers. A legitimate VPN would not do so. Either there VPN isnt legitimate or their core pc is compromised. When told this they went....I use a vpn get over it. Many people here probably do....we don't end up with posts coming from known troll or scam ranges however.
    Are the Russian bot farms so tight not to pay for commercial VPNs to bolt onto their comprised machines?
    Do commercial vpn's accept rubles?
    Point is if RCS told me my posts were coming from a know compromised ip or an ip in the range used by scammers. I would be going wtf and checking it out. Those it has been pointed out to however have just handwaved and gone shucks I use a vpn get over it
    If you're using a VPN then it's probably not worth your time worrying about which blacklists it's on, unless you're getting blocked from sites you want use or you're trying to send email from it or something.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896
    Pensfold said:

    What Cyclefree doesn't tell us is who is on the interveiw panel for the National Crime Agency job. Presumably the interview panel are all senior civil servants. Is Cyclefree claiming they would allow themselves to be brow beaten?

    The interview panel can be overruled and already has been. The story so far is that the final two candidates were interviewed by the Home Secretary but Boris later intervened to reject them both:-

    Boris Johnson is trying to shoehorn in the Scotland Yard chief who presided over the disastrous VIP child sex abuse inquiry as head of the National Crime Agency, Britain’s equivalent of the FBI.

    Lord Hogan-Howe is still being considered for director-general of the NCA even though he failed to make it into the final round of candidates. In a move likely to raise questions of cronyism, No 10 is understood to have knocked back two highly qualified police chiefs interviewed by Priti Patel, the home secretary.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-backs-lord-hogan-howe-to-run-national-crime-agency-pwqjvhjxw (£££)

    In unrelated news, Lord Hogan-Howe backed Boris in the Conservative leadership campaign in 2019.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896
    Lord's faces embarrassment of 20,000 empty seats for Test match
    England's match against New Zealand is specially dedicated to the Queen's Platinum Jubilee and marks the start of the Stokes-McCullum era

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2022/05/30/exclusive-lords-face-embarrassment-20000-empty-seats-test-match/ (£££)

    Expensive seats and bad England test form. Oh, and this from the Telegraph:-

    There has been no apparent surge in interest since the MCC announced last month that floral decorations and bunting around the Home of Cricket will be swathed in the colours of the flag during the June 2-6 Test.

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896
    Boris Johnson slams French officials as Champions League final row escalates
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/05/30/boris-johnson-hits-french-officials-row-liverpool-fans-treatment/ (£££)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,896
    New thread.
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