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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Carnyx said:

    Evening all,

    Did the Lizzie Line earlier today, from Paddington to Abbey Wood and back, and visited all NINE stations too! Also had my Mum for company, which made things a little interesting, as described below!

    Discovered that a lot of the lifts were out of order, at Liverpool Street, Farringdon, and at Canary Wharf (it was working when we exited!). Also, at Abbey Wood, the ladies' toilet was locked out of order too! Mum had to go at the Sainsbury's down the road!

    Also, the "line diagrams" inside the carriages (showing all the stations on the route) were very small, you can barely read them from the other side of the carriage!

    But they were the only bugbears from a passenger standpoint. Journey times were very good, 29 minutes from one end to the other, and 11 minutes from Liverpool Street to Paddington. Trains were frequent at every 5 minutes. Train stats (as well as better line diagrams!) are situated above the platform edge doors on the below-ground stations.

    Different designs were used for the exterior of each station, and two main plan-forms were used at platform level. Paddington, Canary Wharf and Woolwich were of the "open plan" design with lots of space between the platforms (see for example Canary Wharf Jubilee line). Custom House and Abbey Wood are above ground, so you could deem these "open plan" by definition.

    By contrast, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street and Whitechapel were like more "traditional" Tube stations, with two separate tunnels linked by passageways. Bond Street is still under construction, but it was easy to see from passing trains that it is of the "traditional" design. Supposedly it will open in the autumn.

    Anyway, I have maintained my 100% record of visiting every Tube, Train, DLR and Tram station in London. Beat that, @Leon :lol:

    Have you formulated your plan to visit Reston yet @Sunil_Prasannan?
    And East Linton too.

    Evening all,

    Did the Lizzie Line earlier today, from Paddington to Abbey Wood and back, and visited all NINE stations too! Also had my Mum for company, which made things a little interesting, as described below!

    Discovered that a lot of the lifts were out of order, at Liverpool Street, Farringdon, and at Canary Wharf (it was working when we exited!). Also, at Abbey Wood, the ladies' toilet was locked out of order too! Mum had to go at the Sainsbury's down the road!

    Also, the "line diagrams" inside the carriages (showing all the stations on the route) were very small, you can barely read them from the other side of the carriage!

    But they were the only bugbears from a passenger standpoint. Journey times were very good, 29 minutes from one end to the other, and 11 minutes from Liverpool Street to Paddington. Trains were frequent at every 5 minutes. Train stats (as well as better line diagrams!) are situated above the platform edge doors on the below-ground stations.

    Different designs were used for the exterior of each station, and two main plan-forms were used at platform level. Paddington, Canary Wharf and Woolwich were of the "open plan" design with lots of space between the platforms (see for example Canary Wharf Jubilee line). Custom House and Abbey Wood are above ground, so you could deem these "open plan" by definition.

    By contrast, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street and Whitechapel were like more "traditional" Tube stations, with two separate tunnels linked by passageways. Bond Street is still under construction, but it was easy to see from passing trains that it is of the "traditional" design. Supposedly it will open in the autumn.

    Anyway, I have maintained my 100% record of visiting every Tube, Train, DLR and Tram station in London. Beat that, @Leon :lol:

    Have you formulated your plan to visit Reston yet @Sunil_Prasannan?
    Have they opened yet?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,450

    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    A lot of bias towards the western half of the country.
    Really? I already excised the SE, by definition

    I’ve got the Farne Islands, Jarrow, Chapeltown, and Orford

    Maybe - maybe! - you could add in Lincoln or Ely and take away Portishead. My list lacks a cathedral city
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,766
    I see Guildford MP has said it is all unacceptable and had that report been about her she would have resigned.

    SE Tory MPs starting to feel the steely cold edge of the executioner's sword as the LibDems prepare to take their seats?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,720
    pigeon said:

    DavidL said:


    Andrew Neil
    @afneil
    ·
    3h
    PM Johnson defends alcohol-fuelled Downing St leaving parties and his "leadership duty" to attend them. It's a new line -- and new nonsense. I left the BBC after 25 years during lockdown. There was never any question of a leaving party. We all knew it would be against the rules.

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1529476011183726593

    DavidL (and others) - Some heavier weapons are just begining to arrive in Ukraine, notably M777 howitzers, as I learned from a front-page article in yesterday's New York Times. According to the article, they outrange the Russian artillery, and are easy to move and camouflage.

    It takes some time for the Ukrainians to learn to use these new weapons. (The article says two weeks; I assume that is for men who already have artillery experience.)

    Here's the Wikipedia article on the M777: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777_howitzer

    That’s why Russia needs to win now. As time goes by Ukraine is going to be better and better equipped and Russia isn’t. But right now they have a massive artillery advantage and they are using it to good effect.
    Except that Russia can't possibly win outright, because its army is too small and weak to overrun the whole of Ukraine or anywhere close to it. This much is already obvious, from them having to throw in the towel everywhere in the North and redeploy to concentrate what forces they have.

    Russia is close to a full conquest of the Luhansk oblast; the Donetsk oblast, however, looks a much taller order, and wherever the Russians do manage to seize more Ukrainian territory they're going to be obliged to use precious, finite resources to hold it. The Ukrainians will then use partisan tactics to pick off the occupiers. This has already started.

    This could all end up in a stalemate, should the Russians be able to complete their conquest of the Donbas and then solidify a line of control protecting their gains in the South and East. Persuading the Ukrainians to give in and negotiate a ceasefire in that position would, I grant you, constitute a victory that Putin could sell at home. But what if Russia can't roll the Ukrainians over in Donetsk before significant reinforcements armed with really good NATO hardware arrive in theatre - and should they both refuse to cede territory and, ultimately, build up enough strength to begin launching successful counter-offensives?
    I think the Russians are going to dig in after a bit more Donbas, but those areas are going to be hard to retake. Poor quality troops entrenched are tough to dislodge. So it settles as a stalemate, and a question of who suffers more by blockade, Ukraine or Russia.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,620
    DavidL said:


    Andrew Neil
    @afneil
    ·
    3h
    PM Johnson defends alcohol-fuelled Downing St leaving parties and his "leadership duty" to attend them. It's a new line -- and new nonsense. I left the BBC after 25 years during lockdown. There was never any question of a leaving party. We all knew it would be against the rules.

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1529476011183726593

    DavidL (and others) - Some heavier weapons are just begining to arrive in Ukraine, notably M777 howitzers, as I learned from a front-page article in yesterday's New York Times. According to the article, they outrange the Russian artillery, and are easy to move and camouflage.

    It takes some time for the Ukrainians to learn to use these new weapons. (The article says two weeks; I assume that is for men who already have artillery experience.)

    Here's the Wikipedia article on the M777: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777_howitzer

    That’s why Russia needs to win now. As time goes by Ukraine is going to be better and better equipped and Russia isn’t. But right now they have a massive artillery advantage and they are using it to good effect.
    Grinding forward at half a mile per day:

    https://twitter.com/mr_gh0stly/status/1529099871826894848
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695

    Foxy said:

    kle4 said:

    Boy, the Underground is kind of boring looking when you see a geographical map of its lines, isn't it?

    Makes the North London bias more obvious. They should call it the North London Underground really.
    Isn't it in part because south of the river is geologically less suited to tunneling?
    If only there were some PB geologists who could tell us.

    To my untrained eye it doesn't look very different, north or south.

    image
    Possibly depends how deep?
    This seems to bear out @Foxy's theory:

    "However, south of the Thames, the stratum at tube level is composed of water-bearing sand and gravel (not good for tunnelling) with London Clay below, which partly explains why there are very few tube tunnels south of the Thames."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Clay#Tunnels_in_London_Clay
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,466
    edited May 2022

    Foxy said:

    kle4 said:

    Boy, the Underground is kind of boring looking when you see a geographical map of its lines, isn't it?

    Makes the North London bias more obvious. They should call it the North London Underground really.
    Isn't it in part because south of the river is geologically less suited to tunneling?
    If only there were some PB geologists who could tell us.

    To my untrained eye it doesn't look very different, north or south.

    image
    Possibly depends how deep?

    I see Guildford MP has said it is all unacceptable and had that report been about her she would have resigned.

    SE Tory MPs starting to feel the steely cold edge of the executioner's sword as the LibDems prepare to take their seats?

    Good. If they are going to do it FFS get on with it. Sick to death of partygate. It’s the new Brexit.

    *Quotes messed up for some reason...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Liverpool Street eastbound Lizzie Line platform:

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695
    The party's over for this thread.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,413
    Someone should tell Andrew Griffin that if you're explaining you're losing.
    Particularly if your explanation is incoherent.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,259
    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    Redruth is a shithole. At least the town centre is. And I have even been to Carn Brea - had a shower at the leisure centre after running Heartlands parkrun. I'm a bit short on other places on the list though.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,720
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    A lot of bias towards the western half of the country.
    Really? I already excised the SE, by definition

    I’ve got the Farne Islands, Jarrow, Chapeltown, and Orford

    Maybe - maybe! - you could add in Lincoln or Ely and take away Portishead. My list lacks a cathedral city
    Skegness or Great Yarmouth should be in their.

    Its a few years since I've been to Skeggy, but by all accounts it hasn't improved. "Nuneaton by the Sea" one of our Lestah born HCAs described it as to me.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,805
    Farooq said:

    Leon said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Neither Richardson nor Sturdy were on my list of Tory MPs previously criticising Johnson https://twitter.com/jackfiehn/status/1529541486659903488

    Richardson has been mildly restive for a while, perhaps with an eye to the quite credible yellow threat in the constituency.

    By the way, not competing with Leon in the travel stakes, but I'm charmed by mid-Wales (here to speak at the Hay festival tomorrow). A 4-hour drive from Godalming, but very pretty most of the way. Subtly but distinctively different from the English south. There are virtually no by-passes (lack of rich Surrey property-owners to demand them, I guess) so the main road repeatedly pauses to wind its way through a little town or village. The impression is much more spread out than England - houses dotted around but not the neat rows of semis that I'm used to in Surrey. Lots of stunning views across rolling fields to the horizon, divided into little patches, presumably smallholdings.

    And many unexpected things. A gigantic hill scree, next to the road at an 80 degree angle. A gigantic mural in one village, showing stags on a mountain. Flowers galore. Little streams running alongside the roads. Quite a few terraced houses in the south, presumably going back to mining village days. All incredibly tidy - not a scrap of litter anywhere.

    I wish I'd been here before. Recommend the B&B, Plas Blch where I'm staying- really amazingly pretty little place.
    Mid Wales is glorious. Glad to hear you're enjoying it!

    But actually the reason why there are no by-passes is because there's so little traffic. On the two actually busy main roads - the A470 and the A44 - most towns and villages are by-passed with Rhayader (where they meet) being the main and highly ironic exception.

    Enjoy Hay. I love the place and I haven't been there for years - not since my mother died.
    It’s lovely that NPXMP is enjoying mid Wales, and yes it is a beautiful part of Britain. I used to ride my motorbike from Hereford up to Rhayader as a lad, gorgeous nearly all the way (in good weather)

    But isn’t it a bit disconcerting that an elderly man who was a UK MP for many years is entirely unaware of a major chunk of the country he once thought to rule (as part of the ruling party)?

    This is not a criticism of NPXMP. I encounter this everywhere. People who talk confidently of “Britain” who have never been to Scotland, or Wales, or the northern cities or the West Country - let alone Northern Ireland

    I’ve been to all these places, and I am a humble flint knapper. They are all fascinating, maybe not all as beautiful as mid Wales, but fascinating. How can you not want to see your own country? Especially if you seek to GOVERN it

    I suggest there should be an induction course for all MPs, where they are taken on a tour of the whole UK. I’m quite serious. they should see it all, and meet everyone, the beautiful and the bad. Only then might they be allowed to VOTE on British affairs
    I just found a map where you can click and change the colour of the counties, to try to track which ones I've been to:
    https://www.mapchart.net/uk.html

    I'm missing five from Britain, which I think is a pretty good score, but doubtless someone will have done more.
    To my chagrin, I'm missing East Sussex, despite being a history fan. How I've never made it to Hastings/Battle yet is a mystery to me. Well, it's a long way away, but still.
    I lived in Crowborough in E Sussex for a few years. We planned to move back but events overtook us. E Sussex is a lovely place.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Whitechapel westbound Lizzie Line platform:

  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,620
    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend

    I assume you mean a pub on the seafront filled with people having fun.

    Go half a mile inland and Blackpool can be very different:

    When school teacher Kim Leathley took her class on a trip to the local aquarium, she was asked an unusual question.

    "Miss? What's that?" said a nine-year-old boy, pointing towards the waves, as they walked along Blackpool promenade.

    It turned out he'd never seen the sea before.

    A surprise, given the school is in the middle of Blackpool and only a few streets from the seafront.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57174581
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,766
    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Exclusive

    Rishi Sunak is set to announce new money off energy bills for every household in the country tomorrow.

    He’s signed off plans to increase the £200 rebate and - crucially - ditch the need to pay it back. 28 million households benefit.

    https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1529560630813933572

    That is a truly terrible decision. All of the available money ( and it’s not much) should have gone to those on UC. Spreading the loot thin like this achieves the square root of F all.
    Don't like the sound of all those piss-ups in Downing Street whilst you were obeying strict covid rules, Sir?

    How would £200 in your pocket make you feel about it all? A little less pissed off perhaps, Sir?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Canary Wharf:

  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,947

    Carnyx said:

    Evening all,

    Did the Lizzie Line earlier today, from Paddington to Abbey Wood and back, and visited all NINE stations too! Also had my Mum for company, which made things a little interesting, as described below!

    Discovered that a lot of the lifts were out of order, at Liverpool Street, Farringdon, and at Canary Wharf (it was working when we exited!). Also, at Abbey Wood, the ladies' toilet was locked out of order too! Mum had to go at the Sainsbury's down the road!

    Also, the "line diagrams" inside the carriages (showing all the stations on the route) were very small, you can barely read them from the other side of the carriage!

    But they were the only bugbears from a passenger standpoint. Journey times were very good, 29 minutes from one end to the other, and 11 minutes from Liverpool Street to Paddington. Trains were frequent at every 5 minutes. Train stats (as well as better line diagrams!) are situated above the platform edge doors on the below-ground stations.

    Different designs were used for the exterior of each station, and two main plan-forms were used at platform level. Paddington, Canary Wharf and Woolwich were of the "open plan" design with lots of space between the platforms (see for example Canary Wharf Jubilee line). Custom House and Abbey Wood are above ground, so you could deem these "open plan" by definition.

    By contrast, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street and Whitechapel were like more "traditional" Tube stations, with two separate tunnels linked by passageways. Bond Street is still under construction, but it was easy to see from passing trains that it is of the "traditional" design. Supposedly it will open in the autumn.

    Anyway, I have maintained my 100% record of visiting every Tube, Train, DLR and Tram station in London. Beat that, @Leon :lol:

    Have you formulated your plan to visit Reston yet @Sunil_Prasannan?
    And East Linton too.

    Evening all,

    Did the Lizzie Line earlier today, from Paddington to Abbey Wood and back, and visited all NINE stations too! Also had my Mum for company, which made things a little interesting, as described below!

    Discovered that a lot of the lifts were out of order, at Liverpool Street, Farringdon, and at Canary Wharf (it was working when we exited!). Also, at Abbey Wood, the ladies' toilet was locked out of order too! Mum had to go at the Sainsbury's down the road!

    Also, the "line diagrams" inside the carriages (showing all the stations on the route) were very small, you can barely read them from the other side of the carriage!

    But they were the only bugbears from a passenger standpoint. Journey times were very good, 29 minutes from one end to the other, and 11 minutes from Liverpool Street to Paddington. Trains were frequent at every 5 minutes. Train stats (as well as better line diagrams!) are situated above the platform edge doors on the below-ground stations.

    Different designs were used for the exterior of each station, and two main plan-forms were used at platform level. Paddington, Canary Wharf and Woolwich were of the "open plan" design with lots of space between the platforms (see for example Canary Wharf Jubilee line). Custom House and Abbey Wood are above ground, so you could deem these "open plan" by definition.

    By contrast, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street and Whitechapel were like more "traditional" Tube stations, with two separate tunnels linked by passageways. Bond Street is still under construction, but it was easy to see from passing trains that it is of the "traditional" design. Supposedly it will open in the autumn.

    Anyway, I have maintained my 100% record of visiting every Tube, Train, DLR and Tram station in London. Beat that, @Leon :lol:

    Have you formulated your plan to visit Reston yet @Sunil_Prasannan?
    Have they opened yet?
    Reston opened on Monday. East Linton is still in the planning stage.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Custom House:

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Woolwich:

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Abbey Wood:

  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,450

    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    Redruth is a shithole. At least the town centre is. And I have even been to Carn Brea - had a shower at the leisure centre after running Heartlands parkrun. I'm a bit short on other places on the list though.
    Half my dad’s family is from Redruth, or has at least lived there at some point. It was a major town during the tinning years

    That’s why I put it in. It’s not beautiful Cornwall, it’s brutal real Cornwall, tho it does have some noble Victorian industrial revolution architecture. Carn Brea is ground zero for my Mum’s family. An incredible Neolithic hill just outside Redruth which is half lovely-Cornwall - you can see all the coasts - yet half fuck-me-what-happened-here - ruined mines everywhere

    It ain’t St Ives or St Mawes, that’s for sure. But nor is it all disastrous

    I’m trying to educate these new MPs


  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    A lot of bias towards the western half of the country.
    Really? I already excised the SE, by definition

    I’ve got the Farne Islands, Jarrow, Chapeltown, and Orford

    Maybe - maybe! - you could add in Lincoln or Ely and take away Portishead. My list lacks a cathedral city
    It’s a v good list, I’ve hardly been to any of them.

    My “list” includes

    St Helens
    Abergavenny
    Matlock Spa
    Blackgang Chine
    Middlesbrough
    Portscatho
    Ashton-upon-Lyne
    Appledore
    Borth
    Isle of Ely
    Vatersay
    Pittenweem
    Grey Street
    Gosport
    Uttoxeter
    Coventry
    Chipping Camden
    Port Sunlight
    Old Radnor
    Preston Bus Station
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Farringdon:

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Tottenham Court Road:

  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,620
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    A lot of bias towards the western half of the country.
    Really? I already excised the SE, by definition

    I’ve got the Farne Islands, Jarrow, Chapeltown, and Orford

    Maybe - maybe! - you could add in Lincoln or Ely and take away Portishead. My list lacks a cathedral city
    I suspect the south-east is relatively unknown to people from parts northern.

    Its really the place you go through on your way to London or France.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited May 2022

    Tottenham Court Road:

    I’m very excited by the new line, but they all look rather the same, and not especially distinctive as a whole anyway.

    I seem to recall one of the early things to go in the various budget rounds was the architecture.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,390
    Leon said:

    20 places all new UK MPs should be forced to visit in their induction month. I am presuming they will know London and the SE so they are ignored

    Falls Road, Belfast
    Carrickfergus, NI
    Foula, Shetland
    Fort William
    By the Celtic stadium, Glasgow
    Farne Islands
    Jarrow
    Chapeltown Leeds
    A pub in Blackpool on the weekend
    Caernarfon
    Aberfan
    Ironbridge
    West Bromwich
    Rhayader
    Nuneaton
    Orford
    Portishead
    Plymouth near the submarine base
    Redruth, esp Carn Brea
    Weymouth on a Saturday night


    Do all that, and you begin to know Britain


    What, no Primrose Hill?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Paddington:


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