Scott Gottlieb, MD @ScottGottliebMD · 1h In South Africa, we’re thankfully seeing a striking decoupling between new Covid cases and ICU admissions and deaths. Whether #Omicron is inherently less virulent, whether this hopeful finding is result of baseline immunity in infected, or a combination of both, is still unclear.
The Guardian is often not much more nuanced than the Telegraph these days. I think part of it is its supporters' funding model, which makes it much more likely to preach to the choir. They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot, Rafael Behr, John Harris and others, but daily news and culture coverage is on a somewhat downward, very outspokenly opinionated slope.
The vast majority of Guardian readers are Labour or LD voters as the vast majority of Telegraph readers are Conservative voters. The Times is the swing paper of the broadsheets and generally the most centrist.
If any paper switches from backing Boris in 2019 to backing Starmer next time it would likely be the Times
I get the Times and I sense it is having a think about that.
As a paper delivered? I'm sort of thinking that I need to do that (not specific to the Times)
They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot..
Dear God. Speechless.
Polly Toynbee is perhaps more responsible for wrecking the Guardian brand, such as it was, than any other single individual. Imo.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Give over. You love Southgate because he’s a Remoaner Guardian reader, you love the team because they spent half the tournament on one knee
They still lost. Losers should not get medals
I think the greater truth is you hate him and the team because of that. Nobody does more culture war than you. Indeed I recall you saying you wanted them to flop because of the Knee. It was perhaps your worst post on here apart from some of the other ones.
I despise them for being overpaid, overpraised losers, like too many England teams. Taking the knee just made them virtue-signaling losers, which is even worse
Scott Gottlieb, MD @ScottGottliebMD · 1h In South Africa, we’re thankfully seeing a striking decoupling between new Covid cases and ICU admissions and deaths. Whether #Omicron is inherently less virulent, whether this hopeful finding is result of baseline immunity in infected, or a combination of both, is still unclear.
It's a shame the BBC gives so much air time to the joke modellers rather than report on the real world impact of Omicron
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Give over. You love Southgate because he’s a Remoaner Guardian reader, you love the team because they spent half the tournament on one knee
They still lost. Losers should not get medals
I think the greater truth is you hate him and the team because of that. Nobody does more culture war than you. Indeed I recall you saying you wanted them to flop because of the Knee. It was perhaps your worst post on here apart from some of the other ones.
I despise them for being overpaid, overpraised losers, like too many England teams. Taking the knee just made them virtue-signaling losers, which is even worse
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
It was against the rules to have socials in gardens. Most of us occasionally had a quick chat at a distance on someone’s doorstep while dropping off food or some other pretext and that was it for social life. I remember how exciting it was when it changed in June(?) to be permissible to sit in someone else’s garden and see people you hasn’t seen for 3 months.
Maybe you were breaking the rules too, but most people really weren’t.
You could have socials in gardens last May even in limited numbers.
Plus those in the photo were at No 10 for government work purposes anyway
Will you please stop using the phrase "last" and specify the actual fucking year? I went months at a time without seeing my family in 2020.
HYUFD, why are you defending this crap? Despite it being abundantly clear the government want to implement another lockdown, your personal red line. And the only thing from stopping them are these photos of the Prime Minister taking the piss out of all of us.
There is no evidence Boris wants another lockdown even if civil servants do
Then why is he sending his Health Secretary out to talk to every knobhead with a camera and mic, about how desperate the situation is and how we might even need a lockdown before Christmas?
If you were right, it would be quite simple. He would have said at his press conference: “when I said our exit from restrictions was irreversible I meant it. Which is why I have asked my team to make any and all preparations deemed necessary to protect against this variant, within the constraint that we will not be returning to restrictions under any circumstance”.
He’s a lazy, thoughtless fuck and so is everyone else in charge. We’re in a trillion pounds of extra debt and two years on. For what? Where’s the surge capacity for infectious diseases? Why isn’t every vulnerable person in the country equipped with FFP3? Where’s the outreach to persuade unvaccinated minority groups? Where is the carrot and stick to price in the cost to the Nhs of being unvaccinated? What’s happening with the anti virals? Why are windows on trains still bloody locked? Where’s the action on ventilation in classrooms? Why is he still noncing on about washing hands rather than giving advice on sleep, nutrition and vit d3/zinc? Why does every household not now have an oximeter with clear instructions of how to use it and when to phone 111? Etc….
You are a loyal representative of a total bloody shambles of a government. And it’s only by a stroke of luck that omicron isn’t going to cause us a problem. A different variant and their crap management of the country would be condemning countless more to a needless death.
Liz Truss confirms she is no longer a republican 'part of our success is the constitutional monarchy that supports a free democracy ' as she shows more leg to Tory members
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
On this I have to agree with you. It’s celebrating mediocrity..A gallant loser is still a loser.
It's celebrating a great achievement.
You are welcome to see losing as an achievement just as I am welcome to see it as celebrating failure.
I fail to see how,it is ‘’Trump talk’ though. Many sports coaches would say the same.
It's Trumpy talk to boil everything down to winners and losers.
The key to sports improvement is to focus on process not outcome. Coaches will confirm.
And no you are not welcome to view anything other than being the best in the world at something as failure. It's a bullshit view from which you need to evolve.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
No, he’s right,
Do you think Sir Alex Ferguson would Have been happy had Man Utd finished second in the premier league rather than winning it ? Of course he wouldn’t he’d be driving his team to win.
We celebrate mediocrity and plucky losers in this country. We should want to be winners not satisfied with being a plucky loser.
For a few weeks this summer, the England football team put a smile on my face and restored a bit of lost innocence to us all. That they lost in the end by a whisker is of little relevance to what they really achieved. Namely, letting a depressed nation build some positive shared memories of cheering, singing and dancing with friends, family and children.
I mainly remember the twin humiliations of a multi billionaire football team “taking the knee” to respect an alliance of Marxist race-baiting bullshitters, and an England fan shoving a firework up his arse in Leicester Square at about 9am, on coke
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Was a BBC thing as far as I recall. Doesn't matter though, the AoC has recently been sensible and straightforwards. This is of course 'at long last' given the history. In recent years he (they) have been far too political.
AOC goes in cycles between evangelicals and generally liberal Anglo Catholics. Hence the liberal Runcie followed by the conservative evangelical Carey who was followed by the liberal Anglo Catholic Rowan Williams who was followed by the current incumbent the evangelical Welby.
Stephen Cottrell, the more high Church, pro Parish Archbishop of York is a good bet for next Archbishop of Canterbury therefore
I was confused as to why Alexandria Ocasio Cortez 'goes in cycles.'
Then I realised you didn't mean *that* AOC.
Which one do you feel looks better in a dress?
Note: yours truly STRONGLY defends right of both AOCs to wear whatever in conducting their official duties!
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
It was against the rules to have socials in gardens. Most of us occasionally had a quick chat at a distance on someone’s doorstep while dropping off food or some other pretext and that was it for social life. I remember how exciting it was when it changed in June(?) to be permissible to sit in someone else’s garden and see people you hasn’t seen for 3 months.
Maybe you were breaking the rules too, but most people really weren’t.
You could have socials in gardens last May even in limited numbers.
Plus those in the photo were at No 10 for government work purposes anyway
Will you please stop using the phrase "last" and specify the actual fucking year? I went months at a time without seeing my family in 2020.
HYUFD, why are you defending this crap? Despite it being abundantly clear the government want to implement another lockdown, your personal red line. And the only thing from stopping them are these photos of the Prime Minister taking the piss out of all of us.
There is no evidence Boris wants another lockdown even if civil servants do
Then why is he sending his Health Secretary out to talk to every knobhead with a camera and mic, about how desperate the situation is and how we might even need a lockdown before Christmas?
If you were right, it would be quite simple. He would have said at his press conference: “when I said our exit from restrictions was irreversible I meant it. Which is why I have asked my team to make any and all preparations deemed necessary to protect against this variant, within the constraint that we will not be returning to restrictions under any circumstance”.
He’s a lazy, thoughtless fuck and so is everyone else in charge. We’re in a trillion pounds of extra debt and two years on. For what? Where’s the surge capacity for infectious diseases? Why isn’t every vulnerable person in the country equipped with FFP3? Where’s the outreach to persuade unvaccinated minority groups? Where is the carrot and stick to price in the cost to the Nhs of being unvaccinated? What’s happening with the anti virals? Why are windows on trains still bloody locked? Where’s the action on ventilation in classrooms? Why is he still noncing on about washing hands rather than giving advice on sleep, nutrition and vit d3/zinc? Why does every household not now have an oximeter with clear instructions of how to use it and when to phone 111? Etc….
You are a loyal representative of a total bloody shambles of a government. And it’s only by a stroke of luck that omicron isn’t going to cause us a problem. A different variant and their crap management of the country would be condemning countless more to a needless death.
Javid and Gove are the only Cabinet members in favour of more restrictions.
The UK now has more vaccinated with boosters against Omicron than most western nations under this government
The Guardian is often not much more nuanced than the Telegraph these days. I think part of it is its supporters' funding model, which makes it much more likely to preach to the choir. They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot, Rafael Behr, John Harris and others, but daily news and culture coverage is on a somewhat downward, very outspokenly opinionated slope.
The vast majority of Guardian readers are Labour or LD voters as the vast majority of Telegraph readers are Conservative voters. The Times is the swing paper of the broadsheets and generally the most centrist.
If any paper switches from backing Boris in 2019 to backing Starmer next time it would likely be the Times
I get the Times and I sense it is having a think about that.
As a paper delivered? I'm sort of thinking that I need to do that (not specific to the Times)
They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot..
Dear God. Speechless.
Polly Toynbee is perhaps more responsible for wrecking the Guardian brand, such as it was, than any other single individual. Imo.
Indeed. Probably the only articles on there I would never bother with.
Sunak's trip seems to be getting a bit murkier. No published itinerary, no listing of government business.
Like I said a while back it was likely a holiday with a ‘meeting’ hurriedly arranged when the UK media started showing some interest in it.
There is no foreign travel ban at present anyway as long as you are vaccinated and test negative
I don't think anyone is saying he broke the rules. But there's a cognitive discrepancy - if it was a family holiday, it's seen as insensitive at a time when small businesses were screaming for answers; if it was a business trip too urgent to delay, then what was it about? The official line seems to be that it was a business trip during which he took the opportunity to look up some family, but that leaves both aspects open.
My guess is that he arranged it a while back and thought how nice, we can conbine with family, and then when the crisis intensified he didn't have the antennae to think "Um, how will this look?" The fact that he hastily cur it short and hurried home suggests a belated recognition of that.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Was a BBC thing as far as I recall. Doesn't matter though, the AoC has recently been sensible and straightforwards. This is of course 'at long last' given the history. In recent years he (they) have been far too political.
AOC goes in cycles between evangelicals and generally liberal Anglo Catholics. Hence the liberal Runcie followed by the conservative evangelical Carey who was followed by the liberal Anglo Catholic Rowan Williams who was followed by the current incumbent the evangelical Welby.
Stephen Cottrell, the more high Church, pro Parish Archbishop of York is a good bet for next Archbishop of Canterbury therefore
I was confused as to why Alexandria Ocasio Cortez 'goes in cycles.'
Then I realised you didn't mean *that* AOC.
Which one do you feel looks better in a dress?
Note: yours truly STRONGLY defends right of both AOCs to wear whatever in conducting their official duties!
CHB - how are you? You posted quite alarmingly some weeks ago. Clearly most of us know little of you directly but many of us value your thoughts and comradeship (in a strictly non-Labour sense).
You're back, and that's great. You've clearly set yourself a few rules though. (I did that many years ago too - just decided it was easier to be nice to people rather than nasty).
Anyway, given you shared a very low moment I'd not be too shy about the better moments. I think you have more friends than you imagine.
Thank you for your kind words @Omnium, you have made my day
Are they having trouble turning around tests? The number seems a little low considering we're in the phase when Omicron growth is increasingly the becoming the dominant signal over and above any dilution by Delta.
Taking the by report date numbers, today's is no higher relative to last Sunday than was Thursday vs last Thursday. The multiplier should be higher.
That doesn't make sense yet even for a rapid wave - even like for like with Gauteng. And any deceleration of case increases in London should be countered by acceleration elsewhere.
The rate of acceleration is such that reporting date wobbles should be pretty well ironed out, even steamrollered.
It's Sunday. While the weekend effect is not as pronounced as for deaths, there is one.
It is Omicron that is growing, not Delta. Hopefully the figures show that Delta is becoming out-competed, as in South Africa.
Also it seems that positive tests ate only a small proportion of the actual infections, which will introduce random effects.
I'm comparing Sunday with last Sunday to account for weekend effects.
Sunday is 69% above last Sunday, Thursday was 75% above last Thursday.
Nationally, I'd expect that % increase number to be getting bigger fairly consistently as low growing Delta is expunged from relevance.
And the filling in of numbers by sample date does seem to backing up a bit more than usual, even for the weekend.
I think Alastair's comment on Scotland's backlog may be becoming the case in England too.
That says Boris favours a light touch and only guidance not regulation on households mixing this Christmas
Until a couple of days ago there was going to be nothing, just Plan B and vaccine passports....now very quickly its a discussions over what restrictions / guidance for Christmas, let alone after or in the New Year.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
It was against the rules to have socials in gardens. Most of us occasionally had a quick chat at a distance on someone’s doorstep while dropping off food or some other pretext and that was it for social life. I remember how exciting it was when it changed in June(?) to be permissible to sit in someone else’s garden and see people you hasn’t seen for 3 months.
Maybe you were breaking the rules too, but most people really weren’t.
You could have socials in gardens last May even in limited numbers.
Plus those in the photo were at No 10 for government work purposes anyway
Will you please stop using the phrase "last" and specify the actual fucking year? I went months at a time without seeing my family in 2020.
HYUFD, why are you defending this crap? Despite it being abundantly clear the government want to implement another lockdown, your personal red line. And the only thing from stopping them are these photos of the Prime Minister taking the piss out of all of us.
There is no evidence Boris wants another lockdown even if civil servants do
Then why is he sending his Health Secretary out to talk to every knobhead with a camera and mic, about how desperate the situation is and how we might even need a lockdown before Christmas?
If you were right, it would be quite simple. He would have said at his press conference: “when I said our exit from restrictions was irreversible I meant it. Which is why I have asked my team to make any and all preparations deemed necessary to protect against this variant, within the constraint that we will not be returning to restrictions under any circumstance”.
He’s a lazy, thoughtless fuck and so is everyone else in charge. We’re in a trillion pounds of extra debt and two years on. For what? Where’s the surge capacity for infectious diseases? Why isn’t every vulnerable person in the country equipped with FFP3? Where’s the outreach to persuade unvaccinated minority groups? Where is the carrot and stick to price in the cost to the Nhs of being unvaccinated? What’s happening with the anti virals? Why are windows on trains still bloody locked? Where’s the action on ventilation in classrooms? Why is he still noncing on about washing hands rather than giving advice on sleep, nutrition and vit d3/zinc? Why does every household not now have an oximeter with clear instructions of how to use it and when to phone 111? Etc….
You are a loyal representative of a total bloody shambles of a government. And it’s only by a stroke of luck that omicron isn’t going to cause us a problem. A different variant and their crap management of the country would be condemning countless more to a needless death.
Javid and Gove are the only Cabinet members in favour of more restrictions.
The UK now has more vaccinated with boosters against Omicron than most western nations under this government
The boosters are not specific to Omicron so your second sentence is pointless.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
On this I have to agree with you. It’s celebrating mediocrity..A gallant loser is still a loser.
It's celebrating a great achievement.
You are welcome to see losing as an achievement just as I am welcome to see it as celebrating failure.
I fail to see how,it is ‘’Trump talk’ though. Many sports coaches would say the same.
It's Trumpy talk to boil everything down to winners and losers.
The key to sports improvement is to focus on process not outcome. Coaches will confirm.
And no you are not welcome to view anything other than being the best in the world at something as failure. It's a bullshit view from which you need to evolve.
No, it’s nothing to do with trump or being Trumpian. You’re just making an absurd comment for effect. You want to celebrate Mediocrity knock yourself out, I’d rather celebrate winning something.
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
It was against the rules to have socials in gardens. Most of us occasionally had a quick chat at a distance on someone’s doorstep while dropping off food or some other pretext and that was it for social life. I remember how exciting it was when it changed in June(?) to be permissible to sit in someone else’s garden and see people you hasn’t seen for 3 months.
Maybe you were breaking the rules too, but most people really weren’t.
You could have socials in gardens last May even in limited numbers.
Plus those in the photo were at No 10 for government work purposes anyway
Will you please stop using the phrase "last" and specify the actual fucking year? I went months at a time without seeing my family in 2020.
HYUFD, why are you defending this crap? Despite it being abundantly clear the government want to implement another lockdown, your personal red line. And the only thing from stopping them are these photos of the Prime Minister taking the piss out of all of us.
There is no evidence Boris wants another lockdown even if civil servants do
Then why is he sending his Health Secretary out to talk to every knobhead with a camera and mic, about how desperate the situation is and how we might even need a lockdown before Christmas?
If you were right, it would be quite simple. He would have said at his press conference: “when I said our exit from restrictions was irreversible I meant it. Which is why I have asked my team to make any and all preparations deemed necessary to protect against this variant, within the constraint that we will not be returning to restrictions under any circumstance”.
He’s a lazy, thoughtless fuck and so is everyone else in charge. We’re in a trillion pounds of extra debt and two years on. For what? Where’s the surge capacity for infectious diseases? Why isn’t every vulnerable person in the country equipped with FFP3? Where’s the outreach to persuade unvaccinated minority groups? Where is the carrot and stick to price in the cost to the Nhs of being unvaccinated? What’s happening with the anti virals? Why are windows on trains still bloody locked? Where’s the action on ventilation in classrooms? Why is he still noncing on about washing hands rather than giving advice on sleep, nutrition and vit d3/zinc? Why does every household not now have an oximeter with clear instructions of how to use it and when to phone 111? Etc….
You are a loyal representative of a total bloody shambles of a government. And it’s only by a stroke of luck that omicron isn’t going to cause us a problem. A different variant and their crap management of the country would be condemning countless more to a needless death.
Javid and Gove are the only Cabinet members in favour of more restrictions.
The UK now has more vaccinated with boosters against Omicron than most western nations under this government
Outsourcing vaccine procurement to the private sector was a great move. The advantage against other countries has been eroded because Hancock was too busy getting his balls tickled to push the JCVI on boosters earlier. And since then a totally complacent approach by a government more preoccupied with its own sleaze.
On every other measure in this pandemic it’s a tale of total incompetence. Just for a moment consider where we’d be if a third dose didn’t provide useful protection against this variant? Why haven’t we done all the other things in my list? Why haven’t we been doing them anyway?
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Yeah, kicking a football vs campaigning about school meals. ABSOLUTELY EQUALLY valid ways of prepping for a football match, do you hear me?
Team prepped well, I think. Much better than some of the previous shambles.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
Clearly Boris is trying to find a fudge, but the cases / hospitalisations / deaths will rise (that's all baked in) and the media today has been wall to wall we need restrictions. He will eventually be forced to do something. I think we are going to get a repeat of the Sturgeon, please limit your mixing at Christmas.
And then of course that won't actually have much effect and they will go for proper restrictions.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
The Guardian is often not much more nuanced than the Telegraph these days. I think part of it is its supporters' funding model, which makes it much more likely to preach to the choir. They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot, Rafael Behr, John Harris and others, but daily news and culture coverage is on a somewhat downward, very outspokenly opinionated slope.
The vast majority of Guardian readers are Labour or LD voters as the vast majority of Telegraph readers are Conservative voters. The Times is the swing paper of the broadsheets and generally the most centrist.
If any paper switches from backing Boris in 2019 to backing Starmer next time it would likely be the Times
I get the Times and I sense it is having a think about that.
As a paper delivered? I'm sort of thinking that I need to do that (not specific to the Times)
They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot..
Dear God. Speechless.
Polly Toynbee is perhaps more responsible for wrecking the Guardian brand, such as it was, than any other single individual. Imo.
How is Track and Trace or whatever it's called handling/coping with this "Omicron surge"?
I am pretty sure they laid most of them off didn't they?
It was always a nonsense idea, as some of us said at the time. The only way you can trace people once you get past a few cases is the Chinese / South Korean / Israeli way i.e. spying on everybody.
Sunak's trip seems to be getting a bit murkier. No published itinerary, no listing of government business.
Like I said a while back it was likely a holiday with a ‘meeting’ hurriedly arranged when the UK media started showing some interest in it.
There is no foreign travel ban at present anyway as long as you are vaccinated and test negative
I don't think anyone is saying he broke the rules. But there's a cognitive discrepancy - if it was a family holiday, it's seen as insensitive at a time when small businesses were screaming for answers; if it was a business trip too urgent to delay, then what was it about? The official line seems to be that it was a business trip during which he took the opportunity to look up some family, but that leaves both aspects open.
My guess is that he arranged it a while back and thought how nice, we can conbine with family, and then when the crisis intensified he didn't have the antennae to think "Um, how will this look?" The fact that he hastily cur it short and hurried home suggests a belated recognition of that.
There is no lockdown for small business either and we can all still go on family holidays if negative tested and vaccinated (just not now to France and Germany but certainly to the US)
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Lewis got robbed of the WDC and was therefore dropped from the shortlist. Left them with an all white shortlist. Raheem drafted in. That could have been how it went.
Raducanu isn't white?
Don't get the question. What do you mean?
Your original post implied that Raducanu is white. I’d say she is mixed race.
Ah ok. Yes, she is. But I was more thinking how the panel choosing the shortlist would view it. Could be nonsense what I said. Not sure.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
The normal 'cost' is a promotion and a MBE / knighthood / place in the Lords.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
You make an interesting point. There appears to be no political or career down side to making model-driven predictions that unless we lockdown yesterday then the NHS will collapse and being utterly wrong. There is an obvious down side to saying it will be ok and then turning on the news to find every hospital car park has dead people in cardboard coffins stacked up.
Talk of AOC (the one with the funny hat) and the ying/yang of Anglican politics, makes me wonder this:
>> Does HYUFD thinks that the Rev. Henry Sacheverell was a true Tory?
Of course, these days true Toryism may NOT be what it once was.
Sachavarell was basically a high Church conservative Anglo Catholic Anglican Tory, though now most high Church Anglicans are more liberal with evangelicals more conservative. Anglo Catholics are still often conservative though
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
The Guardian is often not much more nuanced than the Telegraph these days. I think part of it is its supporters' funding model, which makes it much more likely to preach to the choir. They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot, Rafael Behr, John Harris and others, but daily news and culture coverage is on a somewhat downward, very outspokenly opinionated slope.
The vast majority of Guardian readers are Labour or LD voters as the vast majority of Telegraph readers are Conservative voters. The Times is the swing paper of the broadsheets and generally the most centrist.
If any paper switches from backing Boris in 2019 to backing Starmer next time it would likely be the Times
I get the Times and I sense it is having a think about that.
As a paper delivered? I'm sort of thinking that I need to do that (not specific to the Times)
They still have some excellent opinion columnists, like Polly Toynbee, George Monbiot..
Dear God. Speechless.
Polly Toynbee is perhaps more responsible for wrecking the Guardian brand, such as it was, than any other single individual. Imo.
She’s terrible but Monbiot isn’t much better.
Monbiot does at least do some original journalism and sometimes comes up with new angles or ways of looking at things. You don’t have to agree with him to find some of his writing interesting. Whereas Toynbee is just opinionated rant; the left wing equivalent of many Mail columnists.
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Lewis got robbed of the WDC and was therefore dropped from the shortlist. Left them with an all white shortlist. Raheem drafted in. That could have been how it went.
Raducanu isn't white?
Don't get the question. What do you mean?
You said Lewis not being in the shortlist left them with an all white one, but Raducanu isn't white so how can that be true.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
On this I have to agree with you. It’s celebrating mediocrity..A gallant loser is still a loser.
It's celebrating a great achievement.
You are welcome to see losing as an achievement just as I am welcome to see it as celebrating failure.
I fail to see how,it is ‘’Trump talk’ though. Many sports coaches would say the same.
It's Trumpy talk to boil everything down to winners and losers.
The key to sports improvement is to focus on process not outcome. Coaches will confirm.
And no you are not welcome to view anything other than being the best in the world at something as failure. It's a bullshit view from which you need to evolve.
No, it’s nothing to do with trump or being Trumpian. You’re just making an absurd comment for effect. You want to celebrate Mediocrity knock yourself out, I’d rather celebrate winning something.
Reaching our first footy final since 1966 is mediocrity? Seriously?
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Lewis got robbed of the WDC and was therefore dropped from the shortlist. Left them with an all white shortlist. Raheem drafted in. That could have been how it went.
Raducanu isn't white?
Don't get the question. What do you mean?
Your original post implied that Raducanu is white. I’d say she is mixed race.
Ah ok. Yes, she is. But I was more thinking how the panel choosing the shortlist would view it. Could be nonsense what I said. Not sure.
Sounds suspiciously like you were saying Raducanu wasn’t dark enough for your woke quota. By the way Tyson Fury is a gypsy, perhaps the most racially maligned group in the country. But I guess he doesn’t count either.
How is Track and Trace or whatever it's called handling/coping with this "Omicron surge"?
I am pretty sure they laid most of them off didn't they?
It was always a nonsense idea, as some of us said at the time. The only way you can trace people once you get past a few cases is the Chinese / South Korean / Israeli way i.e. spying on everybody.
Oh, I'm not saying T&T would work now (if it ever did much) - just that, if we are still nominally trying to track and trace close contacts of people testing positive, the stats to keep up with that must be interesting at this level of positives.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
I like Wick! Especially Pulteneytown.
I was once in a fishing boat in the North Sea when a fierce storm hit us and we changed course and made it to the shelter of Wick harbour. It was a welcome haven
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
You make an interesting point. There appears to be no political or career down side to making model-driven predictions that unless we lockdown yesterday then the NHS will collapse and being utterly wrong. There is an obvious down side to saying it will be ok and then turning on the news to find every hospital car park has dead people in cardboard coffins stacked up.
Yes. With the power, must come responsibility. Otherwise we have signed ourselves over - AGAIN - to an unelected elite who can do whatever shite they like and there is no downside
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
On this I have to agree with you. It’s celebrating mediocrity..A gallant loser is still a loser.
It's celebrating a great achievement.
Not my flag but impressed by the England team, who came across as polite and thoughtful young men. A role model for older people, like those that post here
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
How is Track and Trace or whatever it's called handling/coping with this "Omicron surge"?
They ring random telephone numbers to tell people that it is so infectious they probably already have it?
It probably transmits itself via phone lines anyway, or something. Like Stephen King's rip-off-of-his-own-The-Stand-but-with-mobile-phones novel "Cell".
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Give over. You love Southgate because he’s a Remoaner Guardian reader, you love the team because they spent half the tournament on one knee
They still lost. Losers should not get medals
I think the greater truth is you hate him and the team because of that. Nobody does more culture war than you. Indeed I recall you saying you wanted them to flop because of the Knee. It was perhaps your worst post on here apart from some of the other ones.
I despise them for being overpaid, overpraised losers, like too many England teams. Taking the knee just made them virtue-signaling losers, which is even worse
Er... who posted this?...
"All praise the Knee Takers. No, really. Southgate has made me look a fool, and I couldn't be happier
Are they having trouble turning around tests? The number seems a little low considering we're in the phase when Omicron growth is increasingly the becoming the dominant signal over and above any dilution by Delta.
Taking the by report date numbers, today's is no higher relative to last Sunday than was Thursday vs last Thursday. The multiplier should be higher.
That doesn't make sense yet even for a rapid wave - even like for like with Gauteng. And any deceleration of case increases in London should be countered by acceleration elsewhere.
The rate of acceleration is such that reporting date wobbles should be pretty well ironed out, even steamrollered.
It's Sunday. While the weekend effect is not as pronounced as for deaths, there is one.
It is Omicron that is growing, not Delta. Hopefully the figures show that Delta is becoming out-competed, as in South Africa.
Also it seems that positive tests ate only a small proportion of the actual infections, which will introduce random effects.
I'm comparing Sunday with last Sunday to account for weekend effects.
Sunday is 69% above last Sunday, Thursday was 75% above last Thursday.
Nationally, I'd expect that % increase number to be getting bigger fairly consistently as low growing Delta is expunged from relevance.
And the filling in of numbers by sample date does seem to backing up a bit more than usual, even for the weekend.
I think Alastair's comment on Scotland's backlog may be becoming the case in England too.
A huge amount of the recorded 'increase in cases' is simply an increase in the number of tests, the positivity rate has only bugged a little. which is not the same as saying there is no underlying increase in cases. but the increase in tests which started 2 weeks ago, has now been stable at 1.6 million for the last 3 days, so a smaller increase in cases than when the number of testes was rising sharply.
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
Just out of curiosity, I wondered if you had any photos of your garden socials during lockdown that you'd like to share with the Epping Police all your friends on PB?
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
Nothing wrong with Wick in that piece other than a lack of Afghani speakers. Which is unsurprising.
Mate, I’ve been to Wick. I went this “summer”, when it was perpetually overcast like a kind of Satanic torture.
Now, I love lots of Scotland, and I can even tolerate the climate, for a while. I am glad this beautiful land is part of Britain
But, Jesus, Wick. Don’t be an eejit. It is horrific. And the buildings are so incredibly ugly and dark. Wick, like other towns in Scotland, is one of the most depressing corners of this green earth. Right up there with the worst parts of the ex Soviet Union, or northern Peru, or Romania in winter. Hideous
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Give over. You love Southgate because he’s a Remoaner Guardian reader, you love the team because they spent half the tournament on one knee
They still lost. Losers should not get medals
I think the greater truth is you hate him and the team because of that. Nobody does more culture war than you. Indeed I recall you saying you wanted them to flop because of the Knee. It was perhaps your worst post on here apart from some of the other ones.
I despise them for being overpaid, overpraised losers, like too many England teams. Taking the knee just made them virtue-signaling losers, which is even worse
Er... who posted this?...
"All praise the Knee Takers. No, really. Southgate has made me look a fool, and I couldn't be happier
Great team, great manager, great sensation"
Don’t get the issue with the knee taking. They made It clear taking the knee was an anti racism gesture not a political,one. We should just have got behind them and supported it.
15,465 new case and 3 new death compared with 37,875 and 21 a week ago.
Now maybe there's some data processing explanation but that doesn't look like a doubling every three days.
It is this kind of real world data that could mess up pristine mathematical models prediction armageddon in the UK and so I am sticking my fingers in my ears.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Give over. You love Southgate because he’s a Remoaner Guardian reader, you love the team because they spent half the tournament on one knee
They still lost. Losers should not get medals
I think the greater truth is you hate him and the team because of that. Nobody does more culture war than you. Indeed I recall you saying you wanted them to flop because of the Knee. It was perhaps your worst post on here apart from some of the other ones.
I despise them for being overpaid, overpraised losers, like too many England teams. Taking the knee just made them virtue-signaling losers, which is even worse
Er... who posted this?...
"All praise the Knee Takers. No, really. Southgate has made me look a fool, and I couldn't be happier
Truss once supported a republic? And now Truss is a strong supporter of monarchy?
A conveniently adjustable Truss for quick if temporary support.
Eddie: “What about people who have changed their minds on Brexit?” Liz Truss: “I don’t think people have changed their minds” Eddie: “You have.” Liz Truss: “I have, that's true…”
Can Dom let us know what the 4-d chess positioning looks like for Truss being handed the chalice of Lord Frost's old role?
I don't know.
I have concerns about whether she will be sufficiently thorough on detail, and whether she will have the right advisers in place.
But OTOH it was Lord thing who missed a lot of detail on the Brexit deal. Example: did not enforce access to EU markets for produce from UK dependencies. Caused major issues for the Falklands fishing industry, for example, which mainly exports to Iberia.
Truss did not have the appropriate advisory committees appointed before she started making Trade arrangements that would be better with her advice. Against that, most industry bodies are spending their time demanding to dangle off more government money than being enterprising.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
Talk of AOC (the one with the funny hat) and the ying/yang of Anglican politics, makes me wonder this:
>> Does HYUFD thinks that the Rev. Henry Sacheverell was a true Tory?
Of course, these days true Toryism may NOT be what it once was.
Sachavarell was basically a conservative Anglo Catholic Anglican Tory
In his heyday he was the Poster Boy of the Tory Party. "Church in danger!"
Nowadays though the evangelicals tend to be more conservative and high church Anglicans like Secheverell more liberal. Albeit there are still a number of conservative Anglo Catholic Anglicans
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Why ?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
That's stupid Trump talk.
I go down in a 5 set thriller in the Wimbledon final.
I come 1st in the Hampstead annual crepe tossing contest.
Which is the greater achievement?
They lost, pathetically. On penalties, again. Despite being the better team in terms of talent
England is the home of football, with the world’s greatest football league, and now an embarrassment of young footballing skill
We should be expecting to WIN tournaments - like Germany, France, Italy or Spain - not pitifully grateful for a silver medal
It’s this loser attitude that means we lose. When we ditch this attitude, we win. See various English/British teams in rugby, cricket, golf, Olympic sports etc
That's drivel. Stop it.
Give over. You love Southgate because he’s a Remoaner Guardian reader, you love the team because they spent half the tournament on one knee
They still lost. Losers should not get medals
I think the greater truth is you hate him and the team because of that. Nobody does more culture war than you. Indeed I recall you saying you wanted them to flop because of the Knee. It was perhaps your worst post on here apart from some of the other ones.
I despise them for being overpaid, overpraised losers, like too many England teams. Taking the knee just made them virtue-signaling losers, which is even worse
Er... who posted this?...
"All praise the Knee Takers. No, really. Southgate has made me look a fool, and I couldn't be happier
Telegraph reporting anti vaxxers block booked appointments to stop people getting vaccinated
Now that is something to really make one's blood boil
I am left speechless
If that is true, surely there must be some waY of prosecuting them, even if it's only wasting government time.
You need both a nhs number and their date of birth. I really can’t imagine that many people are doing it.
Is this why they appear to have reset the booking system ? My son has been trying to book a booster for some time, without success. All of a sudden he logged on today and found a dozen clear appointment times for tomorrow.
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
Not only have I been many times, my wife stayed there during the war, and we have family living there
I like Wick. Great train journey
I mean, this is PB contrarianism taken to the ultimate level. By any metric Wick is a hideous and depressing place to live. Why bother disputing this?
That Afghan guy would literally rather risk being beheaded in Kabul than live in Wick, Scotland. Doesn’t that kind of say something? To even the deafest of PB-ears?
It sounds like Whitty and Vallance are absolutely the drivers for more lockdown from that Telegraph report
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
What is wrong with Wick
We have family there
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees Graham Mann 9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
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Scott Gottlieb, MD
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In South Africa, we’re thankfully seeing a striking decoupling between new Covid cases and ICU admissions and deaths. Whether #Omicron is inherently less virulent, whether this hopeful finding is result of baseline immunity in infected, or a combination of both, is still unclear.
Now that is something to really make one's blood boil
I am left speechless
Dear God. Speechless.
Polly Toynbee is perhaps more responsible for wrecking the Guardian brand, such as it was, than any other single individual. Imo.
If you were right, it would be quite simple. He would have said at his press conference: “when I said our exit from restrictions was irreversible I meant it. Which is why I have asked my team to make any and all preparations deemed necessary to protect against this variant, within the constraint that we will not be returning to restrictions under any circumstance”.
He’s a lazy, thoughtless fuck and so is everyone else in charge. We’re in a trillion pounds of extra debt and two years on. For what? Where’s the surge capacity for infectious diseases? Why isn’t every vulnerable person in the country equipped with FFP3? Where’s the outreach to persuade unvaccinated minority groups? Where is the carrot and stick to price in the cost to the Nhs of being unvaccinated? What’s happening with the anti virals? Why are windows on trains still bloody locked? Where’s the action on ventilation in classrooms? Why is he still noncing on about washing hands rather than giving advice on sleep, nutrition and vit d3/zinc? Why does every household not now have an oximeter with clear instructions of how to use it and when to phone 111? Etc….
You are a loyal representative of a total bloody shambles of a government. And it’s only by a stroke of luck that omicron isn’t going to cause us a problem. A different variant and their crap management of the country would be condemning countless more to a needless death.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/19/boris-johnson-considers-plea-limit-household-mixing-christmas/
The key to sports improvement is to focus on process not outcome. Coaches will confirm.
And no you are not welcome to view anything other than being the best in the world at something as failure. It's a bullshit view from which you need to evolve.
He will consider it. Until he makes a decision on, erm... Boxing Day.
Note: yours truly STRONGLY defends right of both AOCs to wear whatever in conducting their official duties!
The UK now has more vaccinated with boosters against Omicron than most western nations under this government
My guess is that he arranged it a while back and thought how nice, we can conbine with family, and then when the crisis intensified he didn't have the antennae to think "Um, how will this look?" The fact that he hastily cur it short and hurried home suggests a belated recognition of that.
Thank you for your kind words @Omnium, you have made my day
Sunday is 69% above last Sunday, Thursday was 75% above last Thursday.
Nationally, I'd expect that % increase number to be getting bigger fairly consistently as low growing Delta is expunged from relevance.
And the filling in of numbers by sample date does seem to backing up a bit more than usual, even for the weekend.
I think Alastair's comment on Scotland's backlog may be becoming the case in England too.
>> Does HYUFD thinks that the Rev. Henry Sacheverell was a true Tory?
Of course, these days true Toryism may NOT be what it once was.
IF - and this is a huge IF - it turns out their advice is ignored, and the nation survives, and there aren’t “6,000 deaths a day” or whatever bollox they are predicting, then they must be driven from public life, and forced to live in Wick, in Scotland.
There must be a price to pay for being SOOOOOO wrong. Seriously. If the boffins want to run the place, they must accept there is a cost to being a fucking idiot and getting it all wrong
That is: IF they are wrong
On every other measure in this pandemic it’s a tale of total incompetence. Just for a moment consider where we’d be if a third dose didn’t provide useful protection against this variant? Why haven’t we done all the other things in my list? Why haven’t we been doing them anyway?
And then of course that won't actually have much effect and they will go for proper restrictions.
We have family there
It was always a nonsense idea, as some of us said at the time. The only way you can trace people once you get past a few cases is the Chinese / South Korean / Israeli way i.e. spying on everybody.
Clearly you haven’t been?
ON OUR WICK ‘We escaped Taliban but hated life in depressing Wick – please don’t send us back to Scotland’, say Afghan refugees
Graham Mann
9:00, 9 Dec 2021Updated: 9:41, 9 Dec 2021
AN Afghan refugee who revealed he’d rather risk being beheaded by the Taliban than stay any longer in Wick, Scotland, has fled to London, we can reveal.
https://twitter.com/no431onthelist/status/1471339827882831876?s=21
Neil Henderson
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resists new Covid restrictions before Christmas #TomorrowsPapersToday
A conveniently adjustable Truss for quick if temporary support.
You might even say they had a bit of personality.
15,465 new case and 3 new death compared with 37,875 and 21 a week ago.
Now maybe there's some data processing explanation but that doesn't look like a doubling every three days.
Ooooof
"All praise the Knee Takers. No, really. Southgate has made me look a fool, and I couldn't be happier
Great team, great manager, great sensation"
the Epping Policeall your friends on PB?Mate, I’ve been to Wick. I went this “summer”, when it was perpetually overcast like a kind of Satanic torture.
Now, I love lots of Scotland, and I can even tolerate the climate, for a while. I am glad this beautiful land is part of Britain
But, Jesus, Wick. Don’t be an eejit. It is horrific. And the buildings are so incredibly ugly and dark. Wick, like other towns in Scotland, is one of the most depressing corners of this green earth. Right up there with the worst parts of the ex Soviet Union, or northern Peru, or Romania in winter. Hideous
Truss “I don’t think people have changed their minds”
Mair “You have”
Truss “That’s true”
I lose a tight Wimbledon final. First Brit to make one in 75 years.
I successfully defend my Welsh Open snooker title.
Which is the greater achievement?
Liz Truss: “I don’t think people have changed their minds”
Eddie: “You have.”
Liz Truss: “I have, that's true…”
I have concerns about whether she will be sufficiently thorough on detail, and whether she will have the right advisers in place.
But OTOH it was Lord thing who missed a lot of detail on the Brexit deal. Example: did not enforce access to EU markets for produce from UK dependencies. Caused major issues for the Falklands fishing industry, for example, which mainly exports to Iberia.
Truss did not have the appropriate advisory committees appointed before she started making Trade arrangements that would be better with her advice. Against that, most industry bodies are spending their time demanding to dangle off more government money than being enterprising.
I don’t agree with them or support them But if they are legally protesting then fine,
But to be fair, that's football - from ecstacy to despair in one game. We all felt it.
My son has been trying to book a booster for some time, without success. All of a sudden he logged on today and found a dozen clear appointment times for tomorrow.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.160663234
Telegraph reporting that Johnson is considering an 8pm curfew for hospitality trade.
Bonkers on stilts with bells on.
That Afghan guy would literally rather risk being beheaded in Kabul than live in Wick, Scotland. Doesn’t that kind of say something? To even the deafest of PB-ears?