Today No 10 told @rowenamason@GuardianHeather@peterwalker99 “As we said last week, work meetings often take place in the Downing Street garden in the summer months. On this occasion there were staff meetings after a No 10 press conference."
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
It doesn't matter if this work party was technically within the rules. The rules were being bent. Most people can get away with that, we probably all bent the rules a bit; but the one group of people who cannot bend the rules are the politicians responsible for the rules. Its just hard luck for them.
Today No 10 told @rowenamason@GuardianHeather@peterwalker99 “As we said last week, work meetings often take place in the Downing Street garden in the summer months. On this occasion there were staff meetings after a No 10 press conference."
Some of the lawyers might want to check this thread out. If might appear that some of the journalists haven't yet worked out the difference between guidance, rules and statue law.
Today No 10 told @rowenamason@GuardianHeather@peterwalker99 “As we said last week, work meetings often take place in the Downing Street garden in the summer months. On this occasion there were staff meetings after a No 10 press conference."
That might fly if Mrs Johnson wasn't there....I don't take Mrs U to my work meetings.
Are your work meetings in your own garden of Mrs U's home?
Where is Mrs U when you have work meetings in your home garden?
Should she be there if it's a work meeting? Is she a member or employee of the government?
I see no reason why she shouldn't. She doesn't need to be a formal member or employee of the government.
If the PM wants her by his side as an unofficial advisor, that's entirely his prerogative isn't it?
I'm sure Cherie and Samantha and others have all been at functions where their husbands were working at the time too.
Hmm, I would definitely not want my wife in any of my work meetings. I think it's inappropriate for the PM to have his wife present. If he wants to talk to her afterwards and get her views that's up to him.
I think the consensus is that the spouse of the PM shouldn't be involved in discussions of government business. But I think it's also the consensus that the spouse of this PM is rather involved in discussions of government business.
So if this picture is to be used to make that point, fine. But I don't think that's the point anyone's making, because it's already well known, even if we may not like it.
Interestingly, if this had been, say, Dennis Thatcher or Sam Cameron or Peter(?) May I don't think there would have been any fuss whatsoever. "Look, Dennis is there." It would have just been assumed he was in some general conversation about gin or cars or whatever it was he made small talk about. It's only because we know how involved Carrie is that her presence there raises these questions.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
Whatever ones are in her garden, yes.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
ODFOD, and your suggestion of sexism is laughable. I passionately believe in the right of women to arrange for friends of this country to be imprisoned, tortured and murdered so that doggie woggies can catch a plane.
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
Whatever ones are in her garden, yes.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
So this rule only applies to the garden, and not other areas of her house?
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
Some of the lawyers might want to check this thread out. If might appear that some of the journalists haven't yet worked out the difference between guidance, rules and statue law.
I'm sure that would make a huge difference if the Met were inclined to investigate. In the courts of public opinion and Tory MP opinion, it might be missing the point.
Today No 10 told @rowenamason@GuardianHeather@peterwalker99 “As we said last week, work meetings often take place in the Downing Street garden in the summer months. On this occasion there were staff meetings after a No 10 press conference."
That might fly if Mrs Johnson wasn't there....I don't take Mrs U to my work meetings.
Are your work meetings in your own garden of Mrs U's home?
Where is Mrs U when you have work meetings in your home garden?
Should she be there if it's a work meeting? Is she a member or employee of the government?
I see no reason why she shouldn't. She doesn't need to be a formal member or employee of the government.
If the PM wants her by his side as an unofficial advisor, that's entirely his prerogative isn't it?
I'm sure Cherie and Samantha and others have all been at functions where their husbands were working at the time too.
Hmm, I would definitely not want my wife in any of my work meetings. I think it's inappropriate for the PM to have his wife present. If he wants to talk to her afterwards and get her views that's up to him.
I think the consensus is that the spouse of the PM shouldn't be involved in discussions of government business. But I think it's also the consensus that the spouse of this PM is rather involved in discussions of government business.
So if this picture is to be used to make that point, fine. But I don't think that's the point anyone's making, because it's already well known, even if we may not like it.
Interestingly, if this had been, say, Dennis Thatcher or Sam Cameron or Peter(?) May I don't think there would have been any fuss whatsoever. "Look, Dennis is there." It would have just been assumed he was in some general conversation about gin or cars or whatever it was he made small talk about. It's only because we know how involved Carrie is that her presence there raises these questions.
She’s not just resting her feet after serving all the drinks?
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
Whatever ones are in her garden, yes.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
So this rule only applies to the garden, and not other areas of her house?
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
Whatever ones are in her garden, yes.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
So this rule only applies to the garden, and not other areas of her house?
Philip is making it up as he goes along. Just like his hero Johnson.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
Alexander Clarkson @APHClarkson · 3m If this was an East European state, many more searching questions would be asked about who is collecting compromising material and why it is being distributed now
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
Whatever ones are in her garden, yes.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
So this rule only applies to the garden, and not other areas of her house?
The garden and her flat.
The COBR meeting rooms aren't in either are they?
No, but you seem to be suggesting that she has right to join any meeting undertaken in No 10. The fact that the garden gets lumped in with the flat and not the rest of the premises seems to just be a convenience for your argument.
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
Yes, frequently before I retired - as a home worker, like BJ. And vice versa. Though we were more polite with one another than you suggest.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
Having Daley win as well is just reward for his fantastic achievements throughout his career.
No chance he wins the main award? I’ve voted for him, but I expect Raducanu to win.
That would be equally wrong if he did. The only story in town is Raducanu.
I disagree. Daley’s achievement is better, in my opinion.
But then I’d have given it to Max Whitlock, but he wasn’t nominated.
No. No No No No No. I hope I rarely resort to capital letters, but diving is NOT A SPORT. We can't give SPOTY to a diver. Britain will be a laughing stock. Emma Raducanu has won a major in one of the biggest sports. Has to be her.
Giving team of the year to the England men's football team is also ridiculous.
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
You may be hoping for that, but that doesn't make it so.
Well you said that last time. There will be more
No, I did not say that last time. What I was interested in then was any evidence of supposed hints dropped by the Mirror's editor that there would be more photos. None was forthcoming.
This photo just shows people at their place of work taking a break in the garden chatting but social distancing, it's not a party. For Rayner to call the picture heartbreaking is absurd
Wish I could have taken a "break" from my work at the time, with colleagues and bottles of wine...
All canteens on building sites were shut at the time so people sat outside and ate their lunch and chatted. What is the difference ?
They didn’t take their wives and partners with them. Or drink wine. Or restrict their “lunch” to a cheese board. Those are the main differences. Others may be able to add some
Who has taken their wife?
Looks like Carrie with baby at her breast seated by Boris.
So the lady who lives at the property is sat in her garden socially distanced from everyone else, the staff are in the garden as they work there and are having a break. These people work in the office next to the garden together and have taken a break together. I really can't see any issues with this photo.
That's because you are a dickhead, if that helps.
Cannot believe the wazzocks coming out of the woodwork in defence of BJ and Lady Suck Suck. It's over, lads.
You are so brave ! If that photo is considered a party then they really can't have many good ones
Um, that's a line you have recycled from elsewhere without really understanding it. Party vs not-party is not an issue here.
So people doing really long hours have taken a socially distanced break in the garden next to their office and that's a party. Look at the people stood up people are not close to each other, I really thought the photos would be 100 times worse than this
Way to miss the point. Again whether it was a party or not is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
Its very relevant.
"Wife and kids" being in the garden of where they live is entirely legal.
Employees being in the garden of where they work is entirely legal.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Using the fact that Carrie is there to suggest something wrong is disgraceful, a very "women shouldn't be seen or heard" attitude. She lives there, she's entitled to be in the garden.
Scraping yourself. If she is there it's not a work meeting but a social occasion. Ergo ...
She lives there. She's entirely entitled to be where she lives while a work meeting is happening.
Have you ever had a work meeting in your house. Did you tell your wife she had to f**k off elsewhere while you did?
So she can waltz into a COBRA briefing at her own pleasure?
What makes you think this was a COBRA briefing?
I don't. But you said because she lives there she can attend whatever meetings she pleases.
Whatever ones are in her garden, yes.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
So this rule only applies to the garden, and not other areas of her house?
Philip is making it up as he goes along. Just like his hero Johnson.
Do you think confidential meetings should be held outside in the garden? Or in her flat?
Or should confidential meetings be held the confidential, secure briefing rooms?
Alexander Clarkson @APHClarkson · 3m If this was an East European state, many more searching questions would be asked about who is collecting compromising material and why it is being distributed now
An insight well worth the link. Without it, it would never have occurred to me to ask those questions. Humbled.
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm on a warm May evening. Chancellor Sunak is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm, poor Rishi is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm, poor Rishi is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm, poor Rishi is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
Having Daley win as well is just reward for his fantastic achievements throughout his career.
No chance he wins the main award? I’ve voted for him, but I expect Raducanu to win.
That would be equally wrong if he did. The only story in town is Raducanu.
I disagree. Daley’s achievement is better, in my opinion.
But then I’d have given it to Max Whitlock, but he wasn’t nominated.
No. No No No No No. I hope I rarely resort to capital letters, but diving is NOT A SPORT. We can't give SPOTY to a diver. Britain will be a laughing stock. Emma Raducanu has won a major in one of the biggest sports. Has to be her.
Giving team of the year to the England men's football team is also ridiculous.
How is diving not a sport?
I think Raducanu is a worthy winner, I just think Daley deserved it for persistence. And it’s a sport dominated by China, so really difficult to win at.
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm on a warm May evening. Chancellor Sunak is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
18 months later, the other person with Boris is Dominic Cummings
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Was a BBC thing as far as I recall. Doesn't matter though, the AoC has recently been sensible and straightforwards. This is of course 'at long last' given the history. In recent years he (they) have been far too political.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
The most ridiculous opinion aired on here for quite some time. Bravo.
Which bit, out of interest?
Southgate seemed embarrassed at winning team of the year.
Not about Daley. Great achievement by him and his partner. But it's not 'pathetic' for England to get team of the year over a diving duo. Made a major international final for the first time in 55 years and came within the width of a post of winning it. In football, the biggest global sport by miles. Got the whole country rocking. That's 'pathetic' compared to an Olympic gold for a platform diving duo? C'mon. I know bizarre opinions make the PB wheels turn but still.
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
You know when Big Dom went for his eye test....and we said I wonder why he didn't sack him immediately....surely that's the sensible thing to do, then get him to say sorry and he can even come back in a 6-12 months and it dragged on.
People at the time said, I wonder if / what Big Dom has on him.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
Having Daley win as well is just reward for his fantastic achievements throughout his career.
No chance he wins the main award? I’ve voted for him, but I expect Raducanu to win.
That would be equally wrong if he did. The only story in town is Raducanu.
I disagree. Daley’s achievement is better, in my opinion.
But then I’d have given it to Max Whitlock, but he wasn’t nominated.
No. No No No No No. I hope I rarely resort to capital letters, but diving is NOT A SPORT. We can't give SPOTY to a diver. Britain will be a laughing stock. Emma Raducanu has won a major in one of the biggest sports. Has to be her.
Giving team of the year to the England men's football team is also ridiculous.
How is diving not a sport?
I think Raducanu is a worthy winner, I just think Daley deserved it for persistence. And it’s a sport dominated by China, so really difficult to win at.
I don't see how Daley deserves it for 'of the year'.
Some people seem to want to gift it to Daley as a lifetime achievement award, but that shouldn't make him the athlete of the year.
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm, poor Rishi is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
No, the flat above No 11 is where Johnson lives.
You saying the cxxt is shopping himself?
A friend of mine reckons the most likely explanation for the current barrage of political incompetence (from someone who hitherto was a not-unshrewd political operator, whatever one may thing of his abilities as an administrator) can only be due to some sort of deliberate self-sabotage.
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
Having Daley win as well is just reward for his fantastic achievements throughout his career.
No chance he wins the main award? I’ve voted for him, but I expect Raducanu to win.
That would be equally wrong if he did. The only story in town is Raducanu.
I disagree. Daley’s achievement is better, in my opinion.
But then I’d have given it to Max Whitlock, but he wasn’t nominated.
No. No No No No No. I hope I rarely resort to capital letters, but diving is NOT A SPORT. We can't give SPOTY to a diver. Britain will be a laughing stock. Emma Raducanu has won a major in one of the biggest sports. Has to be her.
Giving team of the year to the England men's football team is also ridiculous.
How is diving not a sport?
I think Raducanu is a worthy winner, I just think Daley deserved it for persistence. And it’s a sport dominated by China, so really difficult to win at.
It is a sport but has hardly any full time professionals. Some state funded Chinese and Brits and the odd random.
What? Nemo iudex in causa sua probably means nothing to you, and I CBA to explain, but it is the, you know, actual law of the, you know, actual land. I am not clear how suggesting that it should apply equates to nutters warding off imaginary rays with tin foil hats. Nor are you, you just thought that was a thing you say on the internet and it sounds like it means something.
Pathetic. They won **** all, and poor Southgate had to acknowledge that.
Daley and Lee should have won that.
Having Daley win as well is just reward for his fantastic achievements throughout his career.
No chance he wins the main award? I’ve voted for him, but I expect Raducanu to win.
That would be equally wrong if he did. The only story in town is Raducanu.
I disagree. Daley’s achievement is better, in my opinion.
But then I’d have given it to Max Whitlock, but he wasn’t nominated.
No. No No No No No. I hope I rarely resort to capital letters, but diving is NOT A SPORT. We can't give SPOTY to a diver. Britain will be a laughing stock. Emma Raducanu has won a major in one of the biggest sports. Has to be her.
Giving team of the year to the England men's football team is also ridiculous.
How is diving not a sport?
I think Raducanu is a worthy winner, I just think Daley deserved it for persistence. And it’s a sport dominated by China, so really difficult to win at.
I don't see how Daley deserves it for 'of the year'.
Some people seem to want to gift it to Daley as a lifetime achievement award, but that shouldn't make him the athlete of the year.
I’m saying persistence is what tips it for him, in my opinion.
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Was a BBC thing as far as I recall. Doesn't matter though, the AoC has recently been sensible and straightforwards. This is of course 'at long last' given the history. In recent years he (they) have been far too political.
AOC goes in cycles between evangelicals and generally liberal Anglo Catholics. Hence the liberal Runcie followed by the conservative evangelical Carey who was followed by the liberal Anglo Catholic Rowan Williams who was followed by the current incumbent the evangelical Welby.
Stephen Cottrell, the more high Church, pro Parish Archbishop of York is a good bet for next Archbishop of Canterbury therefore
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm, poor Rishi is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
No, the flat above No 11 is where Johnson lives.
You saying the cxxt is shopping himself?
A friend of mine reckons the most likely explanation for the current barrage of political incompetence (from someone who hitherto was a not-unshrewd political operator, whatever one may thing of his abilities as an administrator) can only be due to some sort of deliberate self-sabotage.
If Boris wanted out, he could have easily got out by
"I have long COVID, i just can't perform at the level required of a PM, I have a toddler and a baby on the way, it is better for me, my family and the country to step aside."
And probably would have got a fair amount of sympathy.
You know when Big Dom went for his eye test....and we said I wonder why he didn't sack him immediately....surely that's the sensible thing to do, then get him to say sorry and he can even come back in a 6-12 months and it dragged on.
People at the time said, I wonder if / what Big Dom has on him.
Boris didn’t even need to do that - the best plan was for Dom to resign and for Boris to reject it due to the circumstances created by Covid
What? Nemo iudex in causa sua probably means nothing to you, and I CBA to explain, but it is the, you know, actual law of the, you know, actual land. I am not clear how suggesting that it should apply equates to nutters warding off imaginary rays with tin foil hats. Nor are you, you just thought that was a thing you say on the internet and it sounds like it means something.
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
No nomination for the most successful TdF sprinter of all time? Who came back from his career being over.
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
Oh, so it's OK for the PM to, (hypothetically) say, drive while drunk just because you (hypothetically) do it?
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Was a BBC thing as far as I recall. Doesn't matter though, the AoC has recently been sensible and straightforwards. This is of course 'at long last' given the history. In recent years he (they) have been far too political.
AOC goes in cycles between evangelicals and generally liberal Anglo Catholics. Hence the liberal Runcie followed by the conservative evangelical Carey who was followed by the liberal Anglo Catholic Rowan Williams who was followed by the current incumbent the evangelical Welby.
Stephen Cottrell, the more high Church, pro Parish Archbishop of York is a good bet for next Archbishop of Canterbury therefore
If the current AoC wishes to talk sense and postion himself (in my view) correctly then I'm not going to be chippy about his past or that of his predecessors.
(Churches of all sorts probably have more darkness in their history than the average individual)
What? Nemo iudex in causa sua probably means nothing to you, and I CBA to explain, but it is the, you know, actual law of the, you know, actual land. I am not clear how suggesting that it should apply equates to nutters warding off imaginary rays with tin foil hats. Nor are you, you just thought that was a thing you say on the internet and it sounds like it means something.
In which case, the fact he is in this photo is irrelevant. He will have been working with Boris all year. He is Boris's PPS and therefore may have attended many meetings that don't conform to social distancing. Indeed, why wasn't he working from home? What were those people actually doing at No 10?
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm on a warm May evening. Chancellor Sunak is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
18 months later, the other person with Boris is Dominic Cummings
Yes, 19 months in fact, not 7. My mistake.
Makes it even worse when you consider the tightness of restrictions in place in May 2020.
Tbf, I don't think this picture will move to public opinion dial at all - the damage is aready done there. It will be difficult for Sue Grey to ignore though.
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
A photo showing precisely what people should be doing. Ok, there are people closer than 2m, but really this is a Boris-helpful snap!
- mostly closer than 2m - more than 2 at a social event outside (if it is a social event) - having spouse and child unnecessarily at a work meeting (if it is a work event) - either way breaching household bubbles multiply - general **** you to the public who were expected to follow the rules
Not sure what the rules may have been at the time, but this is roughly what we should be doing isn't it?
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
Quite.
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
X has gone down very much in my view recently, and oddly the Archbishop has risen - he did a very good interview the other day. I strongly suspect the Archbishop is playing politics, but if so he's doing it at a level above the current Westminster bunfights.
(wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular for X, to contrast with the A of C, actually!)
Was a BBC thing as far as I recall. Doesn't matter though, the AoC has recently been sensible and straightforwards. This is of course 'at long last' given the history. In recent years he (they) have been far too political.
AOC goes in cycles between evangelicals and generally liberal Anglo Catholics. Hence the liberal Runcie followed by the conservative evangelical Carey who was followed by the liberal Anglo Catholic Rowan Williams who was followed by the current incumbent the evangelical Welby.
Stephen Cottrell, the more high Church, pro Parish Archbishop of York is a good bet for next Archbishop of Canterbury therefore
I was confused as to why Alexandria Ocasio Cortez 'goes in cycles.'
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Lewis got robbed of the WDC and was therefore dropped from the shortlist. Left them with an all white shortlist. Raheem drafted in. That could have been how it went.
What? Nemo iudex in causa sua probably means nothing to you, and I CBA to explain, but it is the, you know, actual law of the, you know, actual land. I am not clear how suggesting that it should apply equates to nutters warding off imaginary rays with tin foil hats. Nor are you, you just thought that was a thing you say on the internet and it sounds like it means something.
In which case, the fact he is in this photo is irrelevant. He will have been working with Boris all year. He is Boris's PPS and therefore may have attended many meetings that don't conform to social distancing. Indeed, why wasn't he working from home? What were those people actually doing at No 10?
Stroking each other's dicks, and gearing up for Princess Suck Suck's Great Lots of Dead Ragheads But Nobody Cares Magic Rescue Dogathon, at a random guess. Really, is there any depth of moral corruption which moves the needle on your scale?
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm on a warm May evening. Chancellor Sunak is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
18 months later, the other person with Boris is Dominic Cummings
Yes, 19 months in fact, not 7. My mistake.
Makes it even worse when you consider the tightness of restrictions in place in May 2020.
Tbf, I don't think this picture will move to public opinion dial at all - the damage is aready done there. It will be difficult for Sue Grey to ignore though.
It’s just more reinforcement for, whatever, you’ve already decided upon.
Fuck right off. No wonder Philip is so desperate to say "nothing to see here"
I want Boris out, but this is just pathetic.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
Indeed, a total non story pushed by leftwingers. Most of us had socials in our garden last spring and summer and most of those in the photo in the No 10 garden with the PM and Carrie were civil servants working there anyway
It was against the rules to have socials in gardens. Most of us occasionally had a quick chat at a distance on someone’s doorstep while dropping off food or some other pretext and that was it for social life. I remember how exciting it was when it changed in June(?) to be permissible to sit in someone else’s garden and see people you hasn’t seen for 3 months.
Maybe you were breaking the rules too, but most people really weren’t.
I assume Rishi took - and subsequently leaked - this photo, from his vantage point next door to proceedings?
A simple check of Google Maps confirms that the photo was almost certainly taken from the windows of Number 11.
I thought Sunak didn't live there.
I bet he's got an office there though - one with a nice view of the garden, I shouldn't wonder.
It's 8pm, poor Rishi is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
No, the flat above No 11 is where Johnson lives.
You saying the cxxt is shopping himself?
A friend of mine reckons the most likely explanation for the current barrage of political incompetence (from someone who hitherto was a not-unshrewd political operator, whatever one may thing of his abilities as an administrator) can only be due to some sort of deliberate self-sabotage.
If Boris wanted out, he could have easily got out by
"I have long COVID, i just can't perform at the level required of a PM, I have a toddler and a baby on the way, it is better for me, my family and the country to step aside."
And probably would have got a fair amount of sympathy.
Yes he could. I'm not saying my friend's theory makes sense. But it fits the facts.
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Lewis got robbed of the WDC and was therefore dropped from the shortlist. Left them with an all white shortlist. Raheem drafted in. That could have been how it went.
The James Webb Space Telescope has a new launch date! Really hope it goes well and the concept works well so we get something like LUVOIR made ahead of schedule.
Kids all over the country should be really fired about this one, it's the long term replacement for Hubble even though the pictures will look different. It's going to be spectacular.
Sometimes I really regret not following my passion of astrophysics and went into chemistry itself because it had a defined career pathway to medicine or pharma (which I didn't do anyway). My old physics teacher was pretty upset when I informed him that I had chosen chemistry and biochemistry for my university choices.
Extremely useful chart as covid runs rampant in the UK and we all plan for Christmas
It shows how long after exposure to covid you will be detectable by a lateral flow test vs a PCR test if you do have it And at what stages you are likely infectious
Played for Citeh and England (ust like last year and next year) ... er ... that's it
The whole SPotY shortlist was daft. As you say, Raheem Sterling was not England's top scorer at Euro 2020 and nor did he feed any starving schoolchildren. SPotY was a strangely all-English affair, and even in a record Olympics year, the BBC's choice of Olympians did not extend past the two also known for appearing on television shows.
Lewis got robbed of the WDC and was therefore dropped from the shortlist. Left them with an all white shortlist. Raheem drafted in. That could have been how it went.
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Mr Reynolds appears to be assisting with the investigation into parties in Downing Street last year. He emailed staff about it on Monday.
https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1472669740397178884/photo/1
So that's 10,000 votes banked before she starts.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1472653323216080901
Someone’s got that photo surely.
But I think it's also the consensus that the spouse of this PM is rather involved in discussions of government business.
So if this picture is to be used to make that point, fine. But I don't think that's the point anyone's making, because it's already well known, even if we may not like it.
Interestingly, if this had been, say, Dennis Thatcher or Sam Cameron or Peter(?) May I don't think there would have been any fuss whatsoever. "Look, Dennis is there." It would have just been assumed he was in some general conversation about gin or cars or whatever it was he made small talk about. It's only because we know how involved Carrie is that her presence there raises these questions.
I'm absolutely sure that nobody has followed all the rules 100% of the time. On Christmas day last year I met with two people for a walk in the park for example.
I'd kind of assume any confidential COBR meetings aren't held outside in the garden!
But X has it off with a female while his wife is pregnant - meh.
Archbishop of Canterbury, on the other hand ...
But then I’d have given it to Max Whitlock, but he wasn’t nominated.
The COBR meeting rooms aren't in either are they?
Southgate seemed embarrassed at winning team of the year.
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If this was an East European state, many more searching questions would be asked about who is collecting compromising material and why it is being distributed now
Oh, I hadn't noticed re Justin Cantuar. This one?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/17/archbishop-of-canterbury-disappointed-at-tory-lockdown-revelations
I hope I rarely resort to capital letters, but diving is NOT A SPORT.
We can't give SPOTY to a diver. Britain will be a laughing stock.
Emma Raducanu has won a major in one of the biggest sports. Has to be her.
Giving team of the year to the England men's football team is also ridiculous.
Or should confidential meetings be held the confidential, secure briefing rooms?
A gallant loser is still a loser.
"Woman who lives in flat is in her own garden, news at 11"
Fuck off. Get some serious shit, there's enough of it going around.
It's 8pm on a warm May evening. Chancellor Sunak is still working through the figures to see how bankrupt the country is when he's disturbed by a noise from outside... That lazy f*cker from next door is having yet another party! Time to snap a few insurance photos.
Seven months later, lazy f*cker is imploding, time to pass on the pics and add to the collapse.
Bleating ninny. A man who causes me to despise OEs more than the PM and our own dear Charles between them.
Let's remember all his achievements in 2021:
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I think Raducanu is a worthy winner, I just think Daley deserved it for persistence. And it’s a sport dominated by China, so really difficult to win at.
Johnson is toast. I don’t see the point of this apart from being clickbait, it won’t change anything.
People at the time said, I wonder if / what Big Dom has on him.
Some people seem to want to gift it to Daley as a lifetime achievement award, but that shouldn't make him the athlete of the year.
Stephen Cottrell, the more high Church, pro Parish Archbishop of York is a good bet for next Archbishop of Canterbury therefore
"I have long COVID, i just can't perform at the level required of a PM, I have a toddler and a baby on the way, it is better for me, my family and the country to step aside."
And probably would have got a fair amount of sympathy.
(Churches of all sorts probably have more darkness in their history than the average individual)
Makes it even worse when you consider the tightness of restrictions in place in May 2020.
Tbf, I don't think this picture will move to public opinion dial at all - the damage is aready done there. It will be difficult for Sue Grey to ignore though.
Then I realised you didn't mean *that* AOC.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/19/science-clear-case-more-covid-restrictions-overwhelming?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The case for more Covid restrictions is the opposite of “overwhelming”. It is opaque, sketchy, partial and deeply underwhelming
Pathetic Guardian journalists are trying to bully HMG into premature decisions which could deeply fuck up millions of people
Why do they do this? What’s the advantage for the Left?
Maybe you were breaking the rules too, but most people really weren’t.
Kids all over the country should be really fired about this one, it's the long term replacement for Hubble even though the pictures will look different. It's going to be spectacular.
Sometimes I really regret not following my passion of astrophysics and went into chemistry itself because it had a defined career pathway to medicine or pharma (which I didn't do anyway). My old physics teacher was pretty upset when I informed him that I had chosen chemistry and biochemistry for my university choices.
It shows how long after exposure to covid you will be detectable by a lateral flow test vs a PCR test if you do have it
And at what stages you are likely infectious
https://twitter.com/MsHannahMurphy/status/1472550485747847170?s=20