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  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,239
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  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,239
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  • Farooq said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Why is you calling her "Brenda"?
    Its use as a nickname for Queen Elizabeth II originated in Private Eye in reaction to a perceived attempt by the royals to appear less distant and upper class.
    There's nothing worse than a member of the upper/upper middle classes pretending to be working class.

    Makes them look like complete tossers.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,605
    TimT said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Why is you calling her "Brenda"?
    I think that is an old Private Eye running gag
    Oh no, not another one...
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,372
    National news has a piece on sewage water discharges going on. Have to say labour have played an absolute blinder on this. Cheap but of politics, synthetic anger, few social media posts and the Tories have been given a battering on the issue.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Why is you calling her "Brenda"?
    Da prievit aye innit
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  • IshmaelZ said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Yes

    It was always bound to start this way - precautionary hospitalisations, ordered to rest by doctors, etc. Plus I dunno what the stats are but there's a strong folk belief the demise of one of a long marriage happens the demise of the other.
    That is common but I've never been able to reconcile that fact with the fact women live longer than men and women tend (on average) to marry men older than them.

    I'm not sure if the latter fact is still true though but it has been historically.
  • Oops, it was in the Sunday Telegraph, but here's the story that was the great big red flag for me,.

    The Queen will be accompanied by one of her children or grandchildren when she appears in public in the future, to avoid letting the public down at the last minute in the event of future health scares.

    The Queen, who cancelled a trip to Northern Ireland this week under doctors’ orders, will be joined by another member of the Royal Family who can step into the breach should she need company or assistance.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/10/23/queen-joined-public-visits-royals-case-future-health-scares/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    edited October 2021
    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    It's annoying that Henry VIII changed the mode of address, or I could now make a pun about @turbotubbs description being Graceless.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,393

    UK case summary

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    It’s almost as if the huge increases in positive tests in the SW was entirely due to retests after the problems came out. Who’d have thought it? Well me obviously, but clearly not the local news who seemed to think we had suddenly increased cases to more than twice the national average, despite being under it in the lead up to the erroneous tests.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,239
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  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,393
    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Yes

    It was always bound to start this way - precautionary hospitalisations, ordered to rest by doctors, etc. Plus I dunno what the stats are but there's a strong folk belief the demise of one of a long marriage happens the demise of the other.
    That is common but I've never been able to reconcile that fact with the fact women live longer than men and women tend (on average) to marry men older than them.

    I'm not sure if the latter fact is still true though but it has been historically.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widowhood_effect

    Strongest in the first 3 months, it says.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814
    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    It's annoying that Henry VIII changed the mode of address, or I could now make a pun about @turbotubbs description being Graceless.
    Perhaps to avoid jokes about the Pilgrimage of Grace?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    The Queen is her Majesty, everyone else is HRH until they decamp to California.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    To be fair, the Queen might be in the best of health and just wanted an excuse to not go to Glasgow.

    Last time I went to Glasgow the food was so bad I'd rather eat the shavings from a ped egg.

    I told you you should have gone to Greggs. Or at least Byres Road.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,776
    Stocky said:

    ydoethur said:

    If anyone wants proof of global warming:

    I am sitting outside.

    In shorts and a T shirt.

    At the end of October.

    In England.

    And I’m perfectly comfortable.

    There is something very wrong here.

    It’s called weather.
    Yes quite. Weather x 50 years? = climate.

    In any case it's damned cold here in the Midlands. As it has been pretty much all summer, starting with a poor June:

    https://mkweather.com/the-coldest-june-times-in-the-uk-in-30-years-scotland-33c-england-14c-only-23c-from-all-time-june-national-record/
    According to the weather anomaly maps, this summer has actually been slightly warmer than average in the Midlands, and September has been much warmer.
    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-actual-and-anomaly-maps
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    Fishing said:

    Vaccines are much more effective and imo much less intrusive than masks.

    It's not either - or
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,926

    UK case summary

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    Truly remarkable. We can pinpoint the exact moments when iSage called for greater restrictions.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,393
    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    And, naturally, these things matter.
    If I was meeting her I might have checked...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    Carnyx said:

    Spaghetti is my favourite vegetable


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU

    The spaghetti-tree hoax was a three-minute hoax report broadcast on April Fools' Day 1957 by the BBC current-affairs programme Panorama, purportedly showing a family in southern Switzerland harvesting spaghetti from the family "spaghetti tree". At the time spaghetti was relatively unknown in the UK, so many British people were unaware that it is made from wheat flour and water; a number of viewers afterwards contacted the BBC for advice on growing their own spaghetti trees. Decades later, CNN called this broadcast "the biggest hoax that any reputable news establishment ever pulled" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti-tree_hoax
    I tried growing vegetable spaghetti on the allotment once.

    https://www.suttons.co.uk/vegetable-seeds/popular-seeds/squash-seeds-vegetable-spaghetti_MH-28900
    They look quite nice!

    That you tried growing it once suggests it wasn't a roaring success?
    Had to move - not enough time really to judge.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375
    edited October 2021
    Taz said:

    National news has a piece on sewage water discharges going on. Have to say labour have played an absolute blinder on this. Cheap but of politics, synthetic anger, few social media posts and the Tories have been given a battering on the issue.

    It really isn't synthetic anger. I don't really do anger, but it's made me mildly livid. Civilised, prosperous countries such as ours shouldn't be dumping raw sewage into the sea or rivers. The fact we've been doing so for donkeys' years doesn't make it justifiable, and anyway the scale of it has increased recently. Yes, an easy win for Labour, but stupidity from the Tories, who should have seen how it would play out. Some did but they weren't listened to.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,605
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Why is you calling her "Brenda"?
    Its use as a nickname for Queen Elizabeth II originated in Private Eye in reaction to a perceived attempt by the royals to appear less distant and upper class.
    There's nothing worse than a member of the upper/upper middle classes pretending to be working class.

    Makes them look like complete tossers.
    Wait til you get to Chaz3.0 and then Will.V.Am
    I can't wait for the Queen's speech:

    "My mandem’s priority is to deliver bare policies to make the UK peng. To achieve this, my mandem will level up your ends, innit."
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375
    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Brenda's easier then, innit?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    And, naturally, these things matter.
    If I was meeting her I might have checked...
    I wouldn't. I'd called her Liz.
    Here's a question. Is there anyone left alive who calls her by her first name?

    Her children won't. Her godchildren presumably don't. Her friends of the same generation are now all dead. Everyone else calls her by a title.

    Quite a thought.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814

    Taz said:

    National news has a piece on sewage water discharges going on. Have to say labour have played an absolute blinder on this. Cheap but of politics, synthetic anger, few social media posts and the Tories have been given a battering on the issue.

    It really isn't synthetic anger. I don't really do anger, but it's made me mildly livid. Civilised, prosperous countries such as ours shouldn't be dumping raw sewage into the sea or rivers. The fact we've been doing so for donkey's years doesn't make it justifiable, and anyway the scale of it has increased recently. Yes, an easy win for Labour, but stupidity from the Tories, who should have seen how it would play out. Some did but they weren't listened to.
    Especially when holidaying in the UK is a *big* thing this year and will probably be next.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    edited October 2021
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    It's annoying that Henry VIII changed the mode of address, or I could now make a pun about @turbotubbs description being Graceless.
    Perhaps to avoid jokes about the Pilgrimage of Grace?
    Well yes, keeping that title would be Aske-ing for trouble.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,274
    edited October 2021

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    The list of people not going will soon be longer than the list that are...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,814
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    It's annoying that Henry VIII changed the mode of address, or I could now make a pun about @turbotubbs description being Graceless.
    Perhaps to avoid jokes about the Pilgrimage of Grace?
    Well yes, keeping that title would be Aske-ing for trouble.
    Like bowling yourself a Yorker, really.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Why is you calling her "Brenda"?
    Its use as a nickname for Queen Elizabeth II originated in Private Eye in reaction to a perceived attempt by the royals to appear less distant and upper class.
    There's nothing worse than a member of the upper/upper middle classes pretending to be working class.

    Makes them look like complete tossers.
    Wait til you get to Chaz3.0 and then Will.V.Am
    I can't wait for the Queen's speech:

    "My mandem’s priority is to deliver bare policies to make the UK peng. To achieve this, my mandem will level up your ends, innit."
    And that still better English than the platitudes Blair made her spout.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    It's annoying that Henry VIII changed the mode of address, or I could now make a pun about @turbotubbs description being Graceless.
    Perhaps to avoid jokes about the Pilgrimage of Grace?
    Well yes, keeping that title would be Aske-ing for trouble.
    Like bowling yourself a Yorker, really.
    Bigod, that was a good effort.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,393
    GIN1138 said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    The list of people not going will soon be linger than the list that are...
    Well yes, billions of people aren’t going. 😀
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    To be fair, the Queen might be in the best of health and just wanted an excuse to not go to Glasgow.

    Last time I went to Glasgow the food was so bad I'd rather eat the shavings from a ped egg.

    Usual outdated ignorant gastronomically challenged nonsense from you. The food scene in Glasgow is great.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364

    GIN1138 said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    The list of people not going will soon be linger than the list that are...
    Well yes, billions of people aren’t going. 😀
    I'm still annoyed that my invite got lost in the post somewhere.

    Not that I would have gone, but I wanted to have the opportunity to refuse properly.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Yawn. Who cares.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    edited October 2021
    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    And, naturally, these things matter.
    If I was meeting her I might have checked...
    I wouldn't. I'd called her Liz.
    Here's a question. Is there anyone left alive who calls her by her first name?

    Her children won't. Her godchildren presumably don't. Her friends of the same generation are now all dead. Everyone else calls her by a title.

    Quite a thought.
    That's up to her really, isn't it? I'm sure it's within her power to ask people to call her Betty or whatever.
    Either way, I don't recommend anyone addresses anyone else by their title, unless it's heavily in your own interests like if you're the defendant addressing the judge. People are the same, deep down. Brenda is no better a person than HYUFD or ismaelZ or Northern_Al.
    Are you seriously suggesting she would muddle up the Suez Canal and the Strait of Hormuz?

    That seems to me to be bordering on treason...
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    RobD said:

    UK case summary

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    Truly remarkable. We can pinpoint the exact moments when iSage called for greater restrictions.
    Is it too early to offer our thoughts and prayers to Christina?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,393

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Yawn. Who cares.
    I do. I was heavily burned on pb by someone I’ve never met, and so it’s dominating my evening. Or not.
  • BalrogBalrog Posts: 207
    Re the discussion earlier about electric car charging.

    Electric cars have near 100kWhr capacity. So if we get to 10 or more million cars that is an amazing amount of storage capacitу, say 1000 GWhr connected to the grid.. that does away with the need for gas power plants for peak power usage. You can already get a very cheap tariff with octopus if you let them use your Tesla for distributed storage, so you plug it in and they charge it, or take power from the car to the grid at other times.

    Of course you do need the overall supply to be sufficient for the amount of travel, plus to cope with millions of new heat pumps in the winter.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Yawn. Who cares.
    The Duke of Windsor did.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    Balrog said:

    Re the discussion earlier about electric car charging.

    Electric cars have near 100kWhr capacity. So if we get to 10 or more million cars that is an amazing amount of storage capacitу, say 1000 GWhr connected to the grid.. that does away with the need for gas power plants for peak power usage. You can already get a very cheap tariff with octopus if you let them use your Tesla for distributed storage, so you plug it in and they charge it, or take power from the car to the grid at other times.

    Of course you do need the overall supply to be sufficient for the amount of travel, plus to cope with millions of new heat pumps in the winter.

    Imagine what we could do if we all had (separately from cars) 100kWh batteries in our homes. Think what a difference that would make to storage capacity.

    And it's the way we're headed, isn't it?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,393

    RobD said:

    UK case summary

    image

    Truly remarkable. We can pinpoint the exact moments when iSage called for greater restrictions.
    Is it too early to offer our thoughts and prayers to Christina?
    So she has posted today that of course we should expect a plateau because of reduced testing at half term.
    Q. Why didn’t you say this last week then? It’s not like half term was a surprise...
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,372

    Taz said:

    National news has a piece on sewage water discharges going on. Have to say labour have played an absolute blinder on this. Cheap but of politics, synthetic anger, few social media posts and the Tories have been given a battering on the issue.

    It really isn't synthetic anger. I don't really do anger, but it's made me mildly livid. Civilised, prosperous countries such as ours shouldn't be dumping raw sewage into the sea or rivers. The fact we've been doing so for donkeys' years doesn't make it justifiable, and anyway the scale of it has increased recently. Yes, an easy win for Labour, but stupidity from the Tories, who should have seen how it would play out. Some did but they weren't listened to.
    I meant synthetic anger from labour and it’s supporters

  • FossFoss Posts: 1,019
    ydoethur said:

    Balrog said:

    Re the discussion earlier about electric car charging.

    Electric cars have near 100kWhr capacity. So if we get to 10 or more million cars that is an amazing amount of storage capacitу, say 1000 GWhr connected to the grid.. that does away with the need for gas power plants for peak power usage. You can already get a very cheap tariff with octopus if you let them use your Tesla for distributed storage, so you plug it in and they charge it, or take power from the car to the grid at other times.

    Of course you do need the overall supply to be sufficient for the amount of travel, plus to cope with millions of new heat pumps in the winter.

    Imagine what we could do if we all had (separately from cars) 100kWh batteries in our homes. Think what a difference that would make to storage capacity.

    And it's the way we're headed, isn't it?
    If that’s where we’re heading then at some point we need to discuss moving the home and office from AC to DC for efficiency reasons.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Yawn. Who cares.
    I do. I was heavily burned on pb by someone I’ve never met, and so it’s dominating my evening. Or not.
    Just courteously corrected, really, and you started it. You could've just said the Queen, it's not like there's more than one of them and we have to distinguish by honorific.

    Dunno if Queens consort get called her Maj, or if therpeople are prepared for Queen Camilla. Expecting to find out soonish.
  • ydoethur said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    And, naturally, these things matter.
    If I was meeting her I might have checked...
    I wouldn't. I'd called her Liz.
    Here's a question. Is there anyone left alive who calls her by her first name?

    Her children won't. Her godchildren presumably don't. Her friends of the same generation are now all dead. Everyone else calls her by a title.

    Quite a thought.
    The Archbishops of Canterbury should call her Governor or Guv.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    edited October 2021
    IshmaelZ said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Yawn. Who cares.
    I do. I was heavily burned on pb by someone I’ve never met, and so it’s dominating my evening. Or not.
    Just courteously corrected, really, and you started it. You could've just said the Queen, it's not like there's more than one of them and we have to distinguish by honorific.

    Dunno if Queens consort get called her Maj, or if therpeople are prepared for Queen Camilla. Expecting to find out soonish.
    They do, yes. Exhibit A - HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.

    Famously, when one of them rang the other the switchboard operator had to say: 'Your Majesty? Her majesty, your majesty.'
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    ydoethur said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    And, naturally, these things matter.
    If I was meeting her I might have checked...
    I wouldn't. I'd called her Liz.
    Here's a question. Is there anyone left alive who calls her by her first name?

    Her children won't. Her godchildren presumably don't. Her friends of the same generation are now all dead. Everyone else calls her by a title.

    Quite a thought.
    The Archbishops of Canterbury should call her Governor or Guv.
    And I am pretty confident any freeholder of English land can properly call her Squire.

    As a good Lancastrian I address her as Duke when I bump into her.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    IshmaelZ said:

    ydoethur said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    And, naturally, these things matter.
    If I was meeting her I might have checked...
    I wouldn't. I'd called her Liz.
    Here's a question. Is there anyone left alive who calls her by her first name?

    Her children won't. Her godchildren presumably don't. Her friends of the same generation are now all dead. Everyone else calls her by a title.

    Quite a thought.
    The Archbishops of Canterbury should call her Governor or Guv.
    And I am pretty confident any freeholder of English land can properly call her Squire.

    As a good Lancastrian I address her as Duke when I bump into her.
    I call Norman Duke.
  • NEW THREAD

  • I always call her 'the Duke'
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,076
    ydoethur said:

    Balrog said:

    Re the discussion earlier about electric car charging.

    Electric cars have near 100kWhr capacity. So if we get to 10 or more million cars that is an amazing amount of storage capacitу, say 1000 GWhr connected to the grid.. that does away with the need for gas power plants for peak power usage. You can already get a very cheap tariff with octopus if you let them use your Tesla for distributed storage, so you plug it in and they charge it, or take power from the car to the grid at other times.

    Of course you do need the overall supply to be sufficient for the amount of travel, plus to cope with millions of new heat pumps in the winter.

    Imagine what we could do if we all had (separately from cars) 100kWh batteries in our homes. Think what a difference that would make to storage capacity.

    And it's the way we're headed, isn't it?
    Would this not shorten the longevity of the car battery through additional charges compared to what you’d use driving?

    It’s a potentially very large hidden cost.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,364
    Ratters said:

    ydoethur said:

    Balrog said:

    Re the discussion earlier about electric car charging.

    Electric cars have near 100kWhr capacity. So if we get to 10 or more million cars that is an amazing amount of storage capacitу, say 1000 GWhr connected to the grid.. that does away with the need for gas power plants for peak power usage. You can already get a very cheap tariff with octopus if you let them use your Tesla for distributed storage, so you plug it in and they charge it, or take power from the car to the grid at other times.

    Of course you do need the overall supply to be sufficient for the amount of travel, plus to cope with millions of new heat pumps in the winter.

    Imagine what we could do if we all had (separately from cars) 100kWh batteries in our homes. Think what a difference that would make to storage capacity.

    And it's the way we're headed, isn't it?
    Would this not shorten the longevity of the car battery through additional charges compared to what you’d use driving?

    It’s a potentially very large hidden cost.
    That's why I said 'separately from cars...'
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,307
    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Yes. Why would someone of that age be advised to stop drinking?A mini-stroke, maybe?

    She looks amazing for her age. But maybe she's just tired.

    And Charles can open COP. It's his thing after all.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Hope we still get the holiday next year.
    Excuse my ignorance but who is Brenda
    HRH the Queen.
    No such person.
    Please correct my lack of understanding of royal etiquette.
    It's HM the Queen. HRH is for a lesser royal (I believe up to second generation male line descent from a reigning sovereign, although I'm not sure of that).
    Yawn. Who cares.
    I do. I was heavily burned on pb by someone I’ve never met, and so it’s dominating my evening. Or not.
    Yes some people are so sad as to take these things seriously.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    ydoethur said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Umph. There’s something we’re not being told, isn’t there?
    Sadly I fear the bridge is going to fall down during the clown’s term.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Stocky said:

    ydoethur said:

    If anyone wants proof of global warming:

    I am sitting outside.

    In shorts and a T shirt.

    At the end of October.

    In England.

    And I’m perfectly comfortable.

    There is something very wrong here.

    It’s called weather.
    Yes quite. Weather x 50 years? = climate.

    In any case it's damned cold here in the Midlands. As it has been pretty much all summer, starting with a poor June:

    https://mkweather.com/the-coldest-june-times-in-the-uk-in-30-years-scotland-33c-england-14c-only-23c-from-all-time-june-national-record/
    Last year’s weather is climate!
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    ydoethur said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Brenda pulls out of the COP26.

    Why is you calling her "Brenda"?
    Its use as a nickname for Queen Elizabeth II originated in Private Eye in reaction to a perceived attempt by the royals to appear less distant and upper class.
    There's nothing worse than a member of the upper/upper middle classes pretending to be working class.

    Makes them look like complete tossers.
    Wait til you get to Chaz3.0 and then Will.V.Am
    I can't wait for the Queen's speech:

    "My mandem’s priority is to deliver bare policies to make the UK peng. To achieve this, my mandem will level up your ends, innit."
    And that still better English than the platitudes Blair made her spout.
    Wow!! I really have been out of the UK for too long. I had to google mandem, bare, peng AND ends.
  • To be fair, the Queen might be in the best of health and just wanted an excuse to not go to Glasgow.

    Last time I went to Glasgow the food was so bad I'd rather eat the shavings from a ped egg.

    Can't be any worse than Sheffield or Manchester :lol:
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