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  • Cyclefree
    Cyclefree Posts: 25,709
    flightpath01 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SeanT said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm putting a bet on Remain getting 70% plus.

    George Galloway!

    These people are fucking idiots.

    Next they'll be trumpeting an endorsement from Nick Griffin

    How could they be so tin-eared??

    Bizarre. Friend of Islamo-fascists AND Saddam Hussein, Geo Galloway.

    Fantastic.
    I bet Gove is going to back Remain now.

    He's not going to fancy spending the next four months touring the country with Galloway ahd Farage
    Why not, David Davis is.
    That just proves (again)what poor judgment Davis has.

    The Tories have rightly lambasted Corbyn and his friends as the terrorists' appeasers and friends. And this bit of the Leave campaign have jumped into bed with one of the biggest appeasers and justifiers around. Appalling judgment.


  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Monarchist and republican flavours are available.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    So let me get this straight - just because Galloway backs LEAVE, you traitorous, perfidious REMAINERS are going to consign Britain to another 40 years of Brussels-Directive-Raj?

    Seriously guys?

    Indeed...Hollande....Tsipras....
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
  • flightpath01
    flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    Tykejohnno said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm putting a bet on Remain getting 70% plus.

    George Galloway!

    These people are fucking idiots.

    Next they'll be trumpeting an endorsement from Nick Griffin

    The remain proberly have sinn fein wanting Britain in the EU,Corbyns mates.

    You remember corbyn,the far left labour leader who supports remain.
    Nice try but epic fail.
    All the major parties are supportive of EU membership, which is hardly surprising since we have been members for gawd knows how many years. They also support union with Scotland. We hear regular sick comments from the usual fruit loops on here about how they would like to leave the EU and a bonus would be the Scots fecking off as well . It just shows how far out on a sagging limb the mad hysterics of the Leavers are.
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Hello Mr and Mrs Cabinet Minister,

    Would you like to join the stage with Messrs Davis, Farage and Galloway?

    No?

    I saw on periscope an old boy leaving saying it was bad enough Galloway being there but why hadn't Carswell even turned up.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/trewloy/status/700796362342817792
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    edited February 2016
    Which political parties have pulled off the most publicised by election successes this decade?
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    MP_SE said:

    SeanT said:

    There's little chance Boris will come out for LEAVE now.

    They've possibly destroyed their campaign on Day 1. Insane.

    Why why why give this utterly toxic man centre stage.
    He was my MP once - lol
  • MyBurningEars
    MyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    another_richard said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    This is someone who I consider a political weathervane

    https://twitter.com/DavidRoe92/status/700797571460153345

    I remember him at PB but I can't recall what name he posted under.
    Hope he comes back to posting again, he did reappear last September! Chap was solid. Much missed.
  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/davidroe92/status/700798726147874816
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    flightpath01 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_P said:

    @KateEMcCann: The special guest CAN'T actually be George Galloway... Can it?!

    Forget Gove, that will get ALL the headlines. Galloway will rally a few of the hard left for leave but if he is on a platform with Farage it is a coup for Cameron, it will be Benn and Powell 1975 the sequel!
    Galloway, for real?
    He is on a platform with DAVID DAVIS you dimwit. I could not give a monkey's about Farage. DAVID DAVIS, Tim Momtgomerie's representative on earth.
    All the people who loathe Cameron, Farage, Galloway and Davis in one spot. Galloway is a Corbyn backer so suggests Corbyn is lukewarm about Remain. Galloway may be mad but he is the best orator of his generation which should make the campaign fun, especially having him on the same platform as Colonel Mustard!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Cameron 'I have achieved special status for the UK' - Press conference shortly

    Conveniently timed for the news at ten. Suspicious.. :p
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    So let me get this straight - just because Galloway backs LEAVE, you traitorous, perfidious REMAINERS are going to consign Britain to another 40 years of Brussels-Directive-Raj?

    Seriously guys?

    It is because the Leave campaign think Galloway is an appropriate spokeman for them.

    Like deciding not to vote for Labour because you think Corbyn is a dangerous moron.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    In the last hour:

    Remain tightens from 1.52 to 1.44
    Leave drifts from 2.88 to 3.2
  • Big_G_NorthWales
    Big_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,238
    SeanT said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    SeanT said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Come on guys,you have to take ALL views from the political world(even Galloway)

    Galloway has plenty of supporters and he's good in debates.

    No, it's a disastrous choice. Galloway is fine doing hustings in northern towns, but keep him there. Elsewhere, eek, no.

    But LEAVE might - just - be lucky in their timing. It will all be overshadowed by news of the "deal". Maybe.
    Are you worried now then
    Given that I am, at the latest estimation, about 55% LEAVE I wouldn't be thrown into despair by either result. I've been fiercely eurosceptic and oddly europhile over the last decade as oldtime pb-ers will attest.

    But I can sense a massive political error when I see it. And Galloway is that. DUH.

    It may not be fatal, thanks to the timing. But it is ominous.
    In barely one hour the games has changed dramatically from leave to remain.
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    RobD said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Monarchist and republican flavours are available.
    We are a broad church.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @StevenTikolo: David Davis walks out on @georgegalloway
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Respect received a total of 9,989 votes at the 2015 general election. It is not even like Galloway has 500,000 voters backing his party. He is a complete irrelevance.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    Up and down the country there are lefties saying, "Michael Gove, leave...seriously?" and then , "If I vote remain, I'm backing Cameron....seriously?"
  • scoop
    scoop Posts: 64
    I think you could hold your nose and vote with Farage but George Galloway impossible
  • Steven_Whaley
    Steven_Whaley Posts: 313
    I don't like Galloway's opinions on anything much - but he's unquestionably one of the most charismatic politicians in the country. If he can discipline himself to only talking about EU issues then he'll surely be an asset to the LEAVE campaign and deliver voters that Farage and such can never reach without him.

    As a REMAINER I'm far more worried by Galloway than by Gove.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    RobD said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Monarchist and republican flavours are available.
    We are a broad church.
    TPDs need not apply.
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/trewloy/status/700796362342817792

    Aargh - Tony Marlow's blazer was my opening line.

    Sod it. It still is.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
    There is a pre vetting stage, is quite simple

    Q1) Which was the most enjoyable result on election night

    a) Rochester and Strood

    or

    b) Thanet South
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    MikeL said:

    In the last hour:

    Remain tightens from 1.52 to 1.44
    Leave drifts from 2.88 to 3.2

    Yes, well.

    My vote will be nothing to do with the personalities on each side, from a pure intellectual standpoint I simply think we're better off out the EU.

    But a team of George Galloway, Peter Bone and Nigel Farage heading round the country is going to be a complete fucking disaster for leave. Most people are swayed by this sort of thing.
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    Off Topic

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-3454699/Ferrari-unveil-car-kick-bid-end-eight-year-barren-run-2016-season.html

    ..... then it must have some sort of chance against the might of the hitherto all-conquering Mercedes in the upcoming 2016 season. Unfortunately Sebastian Vettel doesn't look any sort of value as their No. 1 driver to win the championship at measly odds of 4/1, but Kimi Raikkonen at 40/1 available with several firms (or one third of those odds each way to finish 1st or 2nd) looks quite tasty. I've had a modest fiver's worth.

    DYOR.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/horton_official/status/700799074933592064
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,075
    another_richard said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    This is someone who I consider a political weathervane

    https://twitter.com/DavidRoe92/status/700797571460153345

    I remember him at PB but I can't recall what name he posted under.
    Lucian Fletcher
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
    There is a pre vetting stage, is quite simple

    Q1) Which was the most enjoyable result on election night

    a) Rochester and Strood

    or

    b) Thanet South
    Trick question. Morley and Outwood.

    Oops!
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Scott_P said:

    @StevenTikolo: David Davis walks out on @georgegalloway

    Davis didn’t even know Galloway would be appearing alongside him on stage? – What kind of amateurish pish is this from the Leave side…
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,075
    Alistair said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    So let me get this straight - just because Galloway backs LEAVE, you traitorous, perfidious REMAINERS are going to consign Britain to another 40 years of Brussels-Directive-Raj?

    Seriously guys?

    It is because the Leave campaign think Galloway is an appropriate spokeman for them.

    Like deciding not to vote for Labour because you think Corbyn is a dangerous moron.
    But Galloway won't become PM if LEAVE win (Corbyn MAY become PM if Labour win in 2020 - but that's pretty unlikely!)
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    RobD said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    RobD said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Monarchist and republican flavours are available.
    We are a broad church.
    TPDs need not apply.
    correct... repenting is encouraged however but never forgiven.
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    edited February 2016
    SimonStClare said:

    Scott_P said:

    @StevenTikolo: David Davis walks out on @georgegalloway

    Davis didn’t even know Galloway would be appearing alongside him on stage? – What kind of amateurish pish is this from the Leave side…
    Do your research before you copy n paste... Jacob Rees Mogg is not on Twitter

    https://twitter.com/wikiguido/status/700791006783004673
  • runnymede
    runnymede Posts: 2,536
    If Cameron has got a no further political union clause then thats a very big thing

    No, it really isn't. It's just a few words on a piece of paper.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Remain 1.41
    Leave 3.35

    Major movement.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: Danish PM with a number 10 dream tweet https://t.co/ymUCHWHjsC
  • flightpath01
    flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    Alistair said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    So let me get this straight - just because Galloway backs LEAVE, you traitorous, perfidious REMAINERS are going to consign Britain to another 40 years of Brussels-Directive-Raj?

    Seriously guys?

    It is because the Leave campaign think Galloway is an appropriate spokeman for them.

    Like deciding not to vote for Labour because you think Corbyn is a dangerous moron.
    For the first time SeantT talks sense.
    After banging on about Murdering Muslims since forever, he now sees Leave thinking its a neat idea to have an arch apologist for Islamic fundamental terrorists as someone to speak on his behalf!
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    BBC claiming City of London safeguards achieved.
  • Richard_Tyndall
    Richard_Tyndall Posts: 33,463
    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Hello Mr and Mrs Cabinet Minister,

    Would you like to join the stage with Messrs Davis, Farage and Galloway?

    No?

    I saw on periscope an old boy leaving saying it was bad enough Galloway being there but why hadn't Carswell even turned up.

    I thought Carswell was with the other lot. It is interesting - and a bit worrying - that GO, which is effectively just a rebranded Leave.EU, have managed to convince everyone quite so comprehensively that they are the voice of the LEAVE campaign. The final decision by the Electoral Commission on this will be very interesting.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,075
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Cameron 'I have achieved special status for the UK' - Press conference shortly

    Like the lands that are now the Czech Republic had "special status" in the German Empire of 1939?
  • Cyclefree
    Cyclefree Posts: 25,709
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    Cyclefree said:

    At the moment my reaction is this. I feel about Galloway much as Mr Meeks feels about the Kippers. And his involvement will likely have the same effect on me as the Kippers have on Mr M.

    A Britain where Galloway and his ilk play any sort of part is not a Britain I want to have anything to do with. It will be illiberal and nasty. For all its many faults, the EU is better than Galloway and his friends.

    I absolutely share your view of Galloway but I have to ask, which side were you on in the Scottish Independence vote? If you were in favour of the Union then you were on the same side as Galloway who played a prominent role in the campaign.

    This is a stupid, crass and self destructive move by GO but to be honest it is no more than I would expect from Farage and it won't make any difference to the fundamental arguments one way or another.
    I didn't have a strong view on the IndyRef issue. If anything I leaned towards independence.

    The EU issue is a very finely balanced one for me. I utterly despise Galloway, Corbyn and people like them. They have brought the politics of the left into the gutter with their associations with and tolerance of anti-Semites, terrorist organizations, dictators and the rest.

    I do not want people like them to play any part in the governance of this country or in shaping its political culture or even its day-to-day norms. And I certainly don't want a Britain outside the EU to be one where people like him have free rein to spread their wholly negative and poisonous views.

    Galloway supports the sort of people who would throw my son off a tall building and then stone him if he happened to survive.

    This is personal.

  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Cameron 'I have achieved special status for the UK' - Press conference shortly

    Like the lands that are now the Czech Republic had "special status" in the German Empire of 1939?
    Has Cameron just secured Dominion status for the UK? :D:p
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    One thing I can take away from today is the political class really is clueless and out of touch.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    Ouch

    https://twitter.com/Nick_Pettigrew/status/700801478152364032
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    Of course as pointed out Better Together also thought Galloway was an appropriate spokeman for them as well putting him up for official events.
  • RoyalBlue
    RoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    edited February 2016
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Cameron 'I have achieved special status for the UK' - Press conference shortly

    Like the lands that are now the Czech Republic had "special status" in the German Empire of 1939?
    Don't be so stupid. There was nothing funny about the German occupation of Europe.
  • flightpath01
    flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    edited February 2016
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/horton_official/status/700799074933592064

    At least Galloway had the good sense not to wear a tie. Sad that Farage did not wear a hat.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    The only hope is this walk-out kills Grassroots Out. George Galloway and the Coalition of the Unwilling....
  • NickPalmer
    NickPalmer Posts: 21,724
    Cyclefree said:

    At the moment my reaction is this. I feel about Galloway much as Mr Meeks feels about the Kippers. And his involvement will likely have the same effect on me as the Kippers have on Mr M.

    A Britain where Galloway and his ilk play any sort of part is not a Britain I want to have anything to do with. It will be illiberal and nasty. For all its many faults, the EU is better than Galloway and his friends.

    Last time I saw George Galloway was in a by-election campaign. He shouted "Murderer!" at me, and hurried on. Unsubtle chap.

    Incidentally, I predicted a deal either this evening or tomorrow morning. Count me as PB's EU sage.

  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    ... and another thrown is cheered as if its a penalty
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,075
    RoyalBlue said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Cameron 'I have achieved special status for the UK' - Press conference shortly

    Like the lands that are now the Czech Republic had "special status" in the German Empire of 1939?
    Don't be so stupid. There was nothing funny about the German occupation of Europe.
    Germany still dominates Europe via the EU.

    LEAVE = RAF
    EU = Luftwaffe
  • Fenster
    Fenster Posts: 2,115
    edited February 2016
    Is there any reason why Dan Hannan isn't leading the Leave campaign.

    I know no politician ticks everyone's box but Hannan is articulate, considered, unfailingly polite and - most importantly of all - very bloody persuasive.

    I'd say he's the best informed anti-EU'r in the world.
  • Gravitation
    Gravitation Posts: 287
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
    There is a pre vetting stage, is quite simple

    Q1) Which was the most enjoyable result on election night

    a) Rochester and Strood

    or

    b) Thanet South
    Tough to choose, but I'll go c) Morley and Outwood
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    Fenster said:

    Is there any reason why Dan Hannan isn't leading the Leave campaign.

    I know no politician ticks everyone's box but Hannan is articulate, considered, unfailingly polite and - most importantly of all - very bloody persuasive.

    I'd say he's the best informed anti-EU'r I'm the world.

    His past comments on the NHS are a hindrance
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    As a perennial worrier, and coward, a small and guilty part of me would not be devastated if I voted Leave but Remain won, allowing me to be self satisfied without facing any risk from my action, even though I feel the risks are worth it.

    Given the puddle of emotional mess I became during the IndyRef, I'm beginning to despise what referenda apparently reveal about my weak will.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    SeanT said:

    MikeL said:

    Remain 1.41
    Leave 3.35

    Major movement.

    Rightly so. I do believe this is a calamity for LEAVE.

    I'm feeling sad. I wanted a proper, close debate and then to make a proper, tightly contested decision. But it now looks foregone.

    Pffff.
    Not saying this will happen but there must be a real chance it turns into a landslide - ie carbon copy of AV - starts close but ends up 2:1.
  • stodge
    stodge Posts: 14,906
    Evening all :)

    "I have in my hand a print out of an email signed by Mr Tusk promising an opt-out on ever closer Union in our time and some other things" D Cameron 19th Feb 2016

    As expected, it's all amateur dramatics for Cameron and amateur theatrics for Grassroots Out. Ho hum - the "deal" may hold up for a few hours or it may not but the gun will be fired and we'll have enough time to enjoy Royal Ascot and being knocked out of Euro 2016 before we have to vote.
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    Don't worry your remain hat on,it will soon turn to camerons sell out.
  • Richard_Tyndall
    Richard_Tyndall Posts: 33,463
    The protection for the city clause which has been posted on the Telegraph site doesn't look like much protection to me. It simply says that if one non Eurozone member disagrees there will be further discussion and every effort made to answer their concerns. It doesn't actually say the decision will have to be changed just that the Council will do

    'all in its power to reach, ...[snipped some waffle about time limits] ... a satisfactory solution to address concerns raised by the member"

    Of course this is only a snapshot but if that is it then it is no protection at all.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12164607/EU-referendum-eu-summit-david-cameron-brexit-live.html
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    edited February 2016
    Twitter feed:

    George Galloway
    Just started trending

    Lol.
  • Cyclefree
    Cyclefree Posts: 25,709
    NickPalmer said:

    Cyclefree said:

    At the moment my reaction is this. I feel about Galloway much as Mr Meeks feels about the Kippers. And his involvement will likely have the same effect on me as the Kippers have on Mr M.

    A Britain where Galloway and his ilk play any sort of part is not a Britain I want to have anything to do with. It will be illiberal and nasty. For all its many faults, the EU is better than Galloway and his friends.

    Last time I saw George Galloway was in a by-election campaign. He shouted "Murderer!" at me, and hurried on. Unsubtle chap.

    Incidentally, I predicted a deal either this evening or tomorrow morning. Count me as PB's EU sage.

    There are no polite words to describe Galloway. I would call him a C*** save that the latter is wonderful and useful. And Galloway is neither.

    Still, congratulations on your EU Sage Status!

  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    MarqueeMark said:

    The only hope is this walk-out kills Grassroots Out. George Galloway and the Coalition of the Unwilling....

    GO has Farage, Leave's Salmond and most of the grassroots so of course it will be the main campaign
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Well the Telegraph and Express front pages are Gove backing Leave. Hopefully Galloway can bugger off and keep a low profile.

    O well, glad I managed to back Remain on Betfair for 1.53 and 1.51 the last couple of days. Has brought my average up quite nicely.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    david_herdson said:

    Twitter feed:

    George Galloway
    Just started trending

    Lol.

    innocent face
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    BBC1 10pm News is a 100% Cameron love in.

    You almost wonder if Dave choreographed it for agreement just before 10pm.
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Alistair said:

    Of course as pointed out Better Together also thought Galloway was an appropriate spokeman for them as well putting him up for official events.

    Yep,not a peep on here when old George was fighting for the union.
  • runnymede
    runnymede Posts: 2,536
    I'm feeling sad. I wanted a proper, close debate and then to make a proper, tightly contested decision. But it now looks foregone.

    Ah the usual hysterical overreaction
  • isam
    isam Posts: 42,205
    SeanT said:

    isam said:

    ... and another thrown is cheered as if its a penalty

    No, this is more than a throw in. This is like a red card about ten minutes after kick off.
    Galloway is an articulate public speaker who a lot of lefties like and has had the establishment over more than once
  • Big_G_NorthWales
    Big_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,238
    SeanT said:

    MikeL said:

    Remain 1.41
    Leave 3.35

    Major movement.

    Rightly so. I do believe this is a calamity for LEAVE.

    I'm feeling sad. I wanted a proper, close debate and then to make a proper, tightly contested decision. But it now looks foregone.

    Pffff.
    To be fair you appear to have been very much for leave but all along I said I would not commit until the deal is announced. Judging by the media coverage this seems to have been a triumph for David Cameron and I am absolutely now in the remain cap.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    Tykejohnno said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    Don't worry your remain hat on,it will soon turn to camerons sell out.
    Christ you are rattled.

    I've spent most of the evening praising/cheering Michael Gove's decision.

    All of that good work has been undone, just look at the posts of Miss Cyclefree and SeanT on this
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    Gravitation said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
    There is a pre vetting stage, is quite simple

    Q1) Which was the most enjoyable result on election night

    a) Rochester and Strood

    or

    b) Thanet South
    Tough to choose, but I'll go c) Morley and Outwood
    d) Twickenham?
  • Fenster
    Fenster Posts: 2,115
    Robert Peston on ITV. I never fail to be fascinated by his speaking manner.

    Takes me back to the days when we'd do really trippy MDMA and stare at the telly going woooahh.

    He is one weird fucking dude.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Cameron gets his deal..... Leave gets Galloway, what a difference a few hours makes!!!!!
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    MikeL said:

    BBC1 10pm News is a 100% Cameron love in.

    You almost wonder if Dave choreographed it for agreement just before 10pm.

    I suppose there was a big push to get it done before 10pm as a sort of deadline. Saturday morning doesn't seem like the best time to announce something of this magnitude.
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    SeanT said:

    MikeL said:

    Remain 1.41
    Leave 3.35

    Major movement.

    Rightly so. I do believe this is a calamity for LEAVE.

    I'm feeling sad. I wanted a proper, close debate and then to make a proper, tightly contested decision. But it now looks foregone.

    Pffff.
    It could be close yet. Remain won't be able to keep Eddie Izzard and Polly Toynbee under wraps till June.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    Cabinet meeting 10.00 am.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Cameron statement and press conference just begun on BBC 10 O'clock news now
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Gravitation said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
    There is a pre vetting stage, is quite simple

    Q1) Which was the most enjoyable result on election night

    a) Rochester and Strood

    or

    b) Thanet South
    Tough to choose, but I'll go c) Morley and Outwood
    d) Bradford West - one for the connoisseurs...
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    RoyalBlue said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    David Cameron 'I have achieved special status for the UK' - Press conference shortly

    Like the lands that are now the Czech Republic had "special status" in the German Empire of 1939?
    Don't be so stupid. There was nothing funny about the German occupation of Europe.
    Allo Allo was.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    Cameron recommends Remain....
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    Don't worry your remain hat on,it will soon turn to camerons sell out.
    Christ you are rattled.

    I've spent most of the evening praising/cheering Michael Gove's decision.

    All of that good work has been undone, just look at the posts of Miss Cyclefree and SeanT on this
    Calm down dears - this deal is worth not much and will unravel like a Gordon Brown budget.

    The scare stories start tomorrow.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Cameron confirms he will recommend Britain stays in the EU and will lead the Remain campaign as he sets out the deal
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    edited February 2016
    BBC1 and ITV both broadcasting Cameron statement live in full (so far).

    He fixed this for sure!
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Cameron has protected our right to keep the pound. Vote Remain!
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Tissue_Price said:

    Gravitation said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scrapheap_as_was said:

    Is it time to open the membership to moderate wavering outers wanting a new liberal Tory party not obsessed with Europe, Gays etc

    Free membership for the first 1,000 new members
    Sign me up
    There is a pre vetting stage, is quite simple

    Q1) Which was the most enjoyable result on election night

    a) Rochester and Strood

    or

    b) Thanet South
    Tough to choose, but I'll go c) Morley and Outwood
    d) Bradford West - one for the connoisseurs...
    My personal favourite was Edinburgh South. It was the only seat I was backing Labour in in Scotland, and bought about the thai.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Cam live - this deal means we don't join be Euro.

    Wow.
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Cameron: UK can pull lever on its own.
  • runnymede
    runnymede Posts: 2,536
    All of that good work has been undone, just look at the posts of Miss Cyclefree and SeanT on this

    Oh please your conception of the importance of this blog is ridiculous
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    George Galloway? The Leave side want to woo Tory waverers with George Galloway???
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    Don't worry your remain hat on,it will soon turn to camerons sell out.
    Christ you are rattled.

    I've spent most of the evening praising/cheering Michael Gove's decision.

    All of that good work has been undone, just look at the posts of Miss Cyclefree and SeanT on this
    Rattled,laughing at the post on here at the pretend out,they always need a soft reason to stay in.

    lol
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,289
    SeanT said:

    MikeL said:

    BBC1 10pm News is a 100% Cameron love in.

    You almost wonder if Dave choreographed it for agreement just before 10pm.

    It's grotesque, isn't it?

    "Cameron's team will be delighted", blah blah blah "He had to fight so hard". yadda yadda

    WTF. Let me decide whether they should be delighted, or how hard they fought. Just report the facts.

    I start to empathise with Scot Nats, vis a vis the Beeb.
    The BBC seem to believe that the most important issue in any story is the mood of the people involved. It's a pernicious way to report high-level politics.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    Tykejohnno said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @Samfr: Farage, Galloway, Cash, Bone on the same bill. Move over Dante we've found the eighth circle of hell...

    Don't worry your remain hat on,it will soon turn to camerons sell out.
    Christ you are rattled.

    I've spent most of the evening praising/cheering Michael Gove's decision.

    All of that good work has been undone, just look at the posts of Miss Cyclefree and SeanT on this
    Rattled,laughing at the post on here at the pretend out,they always need a soft reason to stay in.

    lol
    Have I said I'm backing Remain tonight?
  • flightpath01
    flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fenster said:

    Is there any reason why Dan Hannan isn't leading the Leave campaign.

    I know no politician ticks everyone's box but Hannan is articulate, considered, unfailingly polite and - most importantly of all - very bloody persuasive.

    I'd say he's the best informed anti-EU'r I'm the world.

    His past comments on the NHS are a hindrance
    Hannan almost single handedly cost the Tories the 2010 election and indeed you could argue that his absurd comments did undermine the Tories at a vital pre election time.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Cameron

    1 UK will keep the £ and no bailout for eurozone and no eurozone undermining of single market and no forced relocations of financial services firms to eurozone. UK can activate a unilateral safeguard if needed
    2 EU will ensure competitiveness and complete single market and completion of global trade agreements


  • MarkHopkins
    MarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Galloway. Are they f-ing insane?

    Farage trying to keep his job in the EU?

    What bitter madness is this?

    Hopefully the (inevitable) fallout from the deal will swamp it.

  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,805
    https://twitter.com/AidanKerrPol/status/700805374006452224
  • GIN1138
    GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    EU-lover, obsessed with all things EU and utterly desperate to remain in the club at ANY and ALL costs, Cameron announces he's going to recommend we remain...

    Who saw that one coming? ;)
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