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On evening the Tories & Lib Dems signed their coalition deal, William Hague told his wife Ffion: "I think I've just destroyed the Liberals."

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  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    edited May 2015
    Wow.

    'On evening the Tories & Lib Dems signed their coalition deal, William Hague told his wife Ffion: "I think I've just destroyed the Liberals."'
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Second, like EICIPM... LOL
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    UKIP could end up on just one seat

    This election could have the least proportional result of any GE.
  • initforthemoney
    initforthemoney Posts: 736
    jim murphy looks out of it
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    Jim Murphy really dignified speech.
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    How will Lab Central carry on without all their Scottish big beasts who have to an extent dominated the party's thinking in recent years?
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Vale of Clewyd - Con gain from Lab.
    Overall majority..?
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    SNP gain Ayrshire N
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727
    POEWAS
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    SNP gain Stirling
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Murphy magnanimous in defeat.
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    rcs1000 said:

    UKIP could end up on just one seat

    This election could have the least proportional result of any GE.

    15% of the vote and one seat seems quite strange.
  • Jaz
    Jaz Posts: 21
    Jim has given a dignified speech...
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Chameleon said:

    Wow.

    'On evening the Tories & Lib Dems signed their coalition deal, William Hague told his wife Ffion: "I think I've just destroyed the Liberals."'

    He was right.
    They will never recover after this.
    The Liberal revival and the SDP split comes only once.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Murphy is making a very gracious speech
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Lots of talk of 'divided nation', but I think Tory majority in England, SNP wipeout in Scotland could be the perfect result.

    Tories offer FFA, Your move Nicola
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    When will the BBC update their forecast?
  • Stark_Dawning
    Stark_Dawning Posts: 10,202
    Jim clearly demob happy (or intoxicated).
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    FPT:
    DavidL said:

    Murphy gone. good grief.

    But the Con vote in Scotland (so far) is holding up pretty well in the face of the SNP onslaught: -1%

    Oh that SLAB wishful thinking that after decades of demonisation Scots Tories would suddenly vote for them!
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    So my Jim Murphy as next Labour leader bet might be a loser now?
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited May 2015
    Jonathan said:

    Jim Murphy really dignified speech.

    Are you alright, Hun? (Tweet that defines the Scottish campaign)
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    next leader of lab?

    George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton · 1m1 minute ago
    Chuka Umunna holds Streatham. Not the last election he'll fight this year.

  • Slackbladder
    Slackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Chameleon said:

    Wow.

    'On evening the Tories & Lib Dems signed their coalition deal, William Hague told his wife Ffion: "I think I've just destroyed the Liberals."'

    Mission Accomplised.
  • Fenster
    Fenster Posts: 2,115
    Murphy is a class act. Good parliamentarian too.
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    MP_SE said:

    rcs1000 said:

    UKIP could end up on just one seat

    This election could have the least proportional result of any GE.

    15% of the vote and one seat seems quite strange.
    UKIP will gain several ones in WWC Lab constituencies.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @SophyRidgeSky: Labour source: "Ed Miliband won't make tomorrow lunch time" #GE2015
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    First act of Parliament must be the passage of the delayed boundaries reform.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    Classy speech by Murphy. If only he was always like that instead of Mr Angry.
  • Andrew
    Andrew Posts: 2,900
    IG first spread to hit the con 323 midpoint. Spreadex 322.5, spin suspended.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265
    Fenster said:

    Murphy is a class act. Good parliamentarian too.

    Totally agree.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Scott_P said:

    @SophyRidgeSky: Labour source: "Ed Miliband won't make tomorrow lunch time" #GE2015

    Awwww diddums

    Poor Ted
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Philip_Thompson said:

    First act of Parliament must be the passage of the delayed boundaries reform.

    Agreed, and a new settlement with the nations.
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Jonathan said:

    Jim Murphy really dignified speech.

    Yes, very much so.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    Wow

    @montie: Absolutely fascinating from @DPMcBride on LBC: Speculates that Gordon Brown may be interested in leading Scottish Labour... He should know
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    After 100 results Labour's share is down 3%:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited May 2015
    Scott P Indeed, even Salmond was not ruling out a deal with FFA, this was not a vote about independence, that was last year, it was a vote for more powers for Scotland, Cameron will now have to listen. Many No voters will have voted SNP for precisely that. Quebec nationalists won over 50 seats at the Canadian general election in 1993 for example
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    Yeap.
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    ...and the economy
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    I think people woke up this morning and thought 'Miliband as PM? I can't vote for that'

  • Flockers_pb
    Flockers_pb Posts: 204
    A line that sums up tonight, after a gracious speech by Jim Murphy: "while he was speaking, Labour lost two more seats"
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The most shocking result of the night so far IMO — Tories gaining Vale of Clwyd by 237 votes:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/W07000060
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    Jim Murphy's concession speech was probably his finest moment in years.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Speedy said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    Yeap.
    Ed not believing Labour overspent 1997-2010 probably didn't help either.
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    To be fair to the BBC apparently results are slow.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    fk me

    Stirling;

    Steven Paterson Scottish National Party 23,783
    Johanna Boyd Labour 13,303
    Stephen Kerr Conservative 12,051
    Mark Ruskell Green 1,606
    Elisabeth Wilson Liberal Democrat 1,392

    I was on the tories to come 2nd @ 19/1

    #excellentvalueloser
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,076
    Scotterdammerung - LOL!
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    Simon Hughes has lost.
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Southwark a cert Labour gain...
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    JackW said:

    Jim Murphy's concession speech was probably his finest moment in years.

    Told you your ARSE was light on SNP....and heavy on LibDems!
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Purseybear said:

    Simon Hughes has lost.

    Excellent.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    LDs agreed to coalition and didn't oust clegg before now - he led them to this, but they accepted it.

    The union is still dead though. Cameron could be Jesus he couldn't fix this
  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I've been betting on a Simon Hughes loss for a year. Seems as though I'll collect.
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    William Hague was right. Jesus.
  • Gadfly
    Gadfly Posts: 1,205
    Fenster said:

    Murphy is a class act. Good parliamentarian too.

    Agreed. Really sorry to see him go.

  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727
    Scott_P said:

    Wow

    @montie: Absolutely fascinating from @DPMcBride on LBC: Speculates that Gordon Brown may be interested in leading Scottish Labour... He should know

    Well, he did better than Ed...
  • Artist
    Artist Posts: 1,893
    Not surprising, Labour threw a lot at Bermondsey.
  • Freggles
    Freggles Posts: 3,487
    That looks like an old skool rosette for Barron
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    foxinsoxuk said:

    Jonathan said:

    Jim Murphy really dignified speech.

    Are you alright, Hun? (Tweet that defines the Scottish campaign)
    wasnt it "are you ok, hun?" ??
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Wow
    AndyJS said:

    The most shocking result of the night so far IMO — Tories gaining Vale of Clwyd by 237 votes:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/W07000060

  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    Curran gooone
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156
    Curran thumped
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Well another candidate for that second UKIP seat:
    Sam Morris ‏@SamMorris_LE 34m34 minutes ago
    Early suggestions Boston and Skegness is "neck and neck" between Ukip and tories but still lots of votes to count


    Labour seem to have won Great Grimsby.
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    kle4 said:

    LDs agreed to coalition and didn't oust clegg before now - he led them to this, but they accepted it.

    The union is still dead though. Cameron could be Jesus he couldn't fix this

    Save that for another day mate but it's not necessarily dead at all. It just needs devolved powers.
  • Saltire
    Saltire Posts: 525
    AndyJS said:

    After 100 results Labour's share is down 3%:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results

    Partly down to the fact the 25% of the seats declared have been from Scotland where Labour are down 20%
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited May 2015
    oxfordsimon said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    I think people woke up this morning and thought 'Miliband as PM? I can't vote for that'

    I told story on a previous thread that is exactly what happened to Mrs Urquhart...She agrees with a lot of the problems identified by Ed and I was shocked when she told me she hadn't voted Labour because she just couldn't back a man who in her words "couldn't be trusted to open a bag of crisps".
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    edited May 2015
    Chuka's majority increased from 3,000 to 10,000
  • MikeL
    MikeL Posts: 7,809
    Huge rise in Chuka's majority
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    twilight of the sods.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Con hold Harlow
  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    SandyRentool said:

    Curran thumped

    A 33/1 bet comes home.
  • Monty
    Monty Posts: 346
    Gotta love politics.
  • Flockers_pb
    Flockers_pb Posts: 204
    JackW - it was a very special speech, the more so because he had clearly had to prepare it some time ago.
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    CURRAN IS OUT.

    Almost two to one.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    ITV News ‏@itvnews 26s27 seconds ago
    LAB Hold Hyndburn #GE2015

    Edinburgh Zoo have more pandas than SLAB MPs.
  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926
    Con HOLD Basildon.
  • numbertwelve
    numbertwelve Posts: 7,727
    Have we seen Ed yet? Anyone?
  • RobinWiggs
    RobinWiggs Posts: 621
    oxfordsimon said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    I think people woke up this morning and thought 'Miliband as PM? I can't vote for that'

    I think it is too simple to put it down to one message.

    Lab + SNP for some.
    The horror of Milliband PM for others.
    Balls as CoE for others.
    Stopping UKIP for others.
    Positive vote for finishing off recovering the economy for others.

    The Crosby campaign spoke to all of these are different times. In retrospect it may well have been a masterful campaign. I wonder at which point in the past few days the internal polling started to show this - or was it squeaky bum time for them as well as us?
  • Monty
    Monty Posts: 346
    Really hope Nick P gets back in.
  • Purseybear
    Purseybear Posts: 766
    KentRising said:

    Speedy said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    So...what do we put down to Tories getting all these swings in England?

    Was it the Tories scare tactics over the Lab+SNP?

    Yeap.
    Ed not believing Labour overspent 1997-2010 probably didn't help either.
    That mauling by northern sounding people may have massively helped Cameron. That wasn't posh boys shredding Labour's economic record. That was 'people like us.'
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    EMWNMITTL.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    kle4 said:

    LDs agreed to coalition and didn't oust clegg before now - he led them to this, but they accepted it.

    The union is still dead though. Cameron could be Jesus he couldn't fix this

    The LD were only interested for the ministerial limos so much they got them up their rear.
  • Monty
    Monty Posts: 346
    Ed is toast.
  • notme
    notme Posts: 3,293
    carlisle looking extremely close but cons might have it.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    SNP gain Glasgow E
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Lab hold Coventry South
  • LucyJones
    LucyJones Posts: 651
    Wondering whether Ukip will see only a single MP elected on the back of a couple of million votes? Sickening for them if the SNP gain 50+ MPs with fewer votes.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Apologies to Antifrank, but Scötterdämmerung was his invention
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour +8 in Blackburn
  • MarqueeMark
    MarqueeMark Posts: 55,457
    HYUFD said:

    Chuka's majority increased from 3,000 to 10,000

    Great - Labour will think he is the answer....

    Wrong!
  • rcs1000
    rcs1000 Posts: 60,717
    Speedy said:



    kle4 said:

    LDs agreed to coalition and didn't oust clegg before now - he led them to this, but they accepted it.

    The union is still dead though. Cameron could be Jesus he couldn't fix this

    The LD were only interested for the ministerial limos so much they got them up their rear.
    I think that's harsh. I don't think they had any choice.
  • Gadfly
    Gadfly Posts: 1,205
    Marr sums up the BBC's issue... "London is doing rather well for the Labour party. The only part of the country that is"
  • Sandpit
    Sandpit Posts: 56,045
    Jack Straw talking on Sky about how the party elects a new leader.....
  • Prodicus
    Prodicus Posts: 658
    Rob Halfon increased maj in Harlow. Good man. Well done.
  • currystar
    currystar Posts: 1,171
    Monty said:

    Really hope Nick P gets back in.

    I really dont. Tick tock
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    Casino_Royale said:

    EMWNMITTL.

    Ed Miliband Will Never Make It To Tomorrow Lunchtime?
  • marke09
    marke09 Posts: 926
    Labour source being quoted on SKY News Miliband wont make tomorrow lunchtime"
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    will Harriet ever resign or is Deputy for life?
  • RobinWiggs
    RobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Monty said:

    Ed is toast.

    He'll be gone before Justine even makes his toast for breakfast.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    We haven't had many results from the Midlands yet but I think it could well deliver Cameron a working overall majority.
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