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I think he's right.Danny565 said:Tim Montgomerie: If voters have a choice between an individualist right and a big-government left, the latter will prove more popular
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4405688.ece
The general reaction to events is "the government should do something" or " the government should ban it".
Which is why EdM's 'policy' announcements tend to be popular no matter how ill-thought out they are and how ineffective they would be in practice.
The Conservatives don't help themselves by failing to put forward a small government philosophy. They had the makings of one with the 'Big Society' but it was never thought through properly and then it was abandoned.
Conservatives attempts to match EdM with policy announcements are therefore self-defeating - if someone wants a meddling big-government then its natural to support Labour, who believe in the philosophy, rather than the Conservatives, who don't or at least shouldn't.
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To use a well-worn cliche, GG could start a fight in an empty roomTykejohnno said:
Bradford west ;-) seems a little spat going off with Gorgeous George and the labour candidate - lolcompouter2 said:
Drawing up my PB List for Election night, each person gets two, some extra special posters get three,so we can all have a little fist pump when those Labour gains come in.ls there ayone in particular you would like apart from Andy Sawford?Tykejohnno said:
You did notice I did a couple of tweets on Nicky Morgan,I'm like fox news-fair and balanced ;-)compouter2 said:
The Scum is now getting desperate,it is even running the same anti-Labour, anti-Ed, pro-Tory stories over and over again on its twitter page.Tykejohnno said:
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Hope so.
Though to balance it up amongst the dozens of one way stories a story about Kelly Brook fancying Ed Miliband?????0 -
UKPR point out that YouGov have changed their methodology now that the election is under way. I'm not sure that this makes their previous polls comparable.
And on the subject of non doms (again) how crass is Mike Smithson to parade the crass drivel from Rentoul?
The person seen on tape clearly defending the concept of non dom status is Ed Balls.
But hey why not play along with labour propaganda - Mr Smithson is so outside the Westminster bubble that he will go to ludicrous extremes to try to get the worst cabinet minister in the entire coalition government re-elected.0 -
Nice to see you back Andy.AndyJS said:Radio 4: Nondoms were introduced by William Pitt the Younger in 1799.
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Thanks - yes I checked schedule - it's debate reaction presented by Maitlis - suspect will be in spin room - will be interesting to see if it's 100% Con and LD interviews - or whether other parties also get a look in.Scott_P said:
Interviews with Emily Maitlis, separate I thinkMikeL said:What is the format of that 30 mins?
Will Con and LD appear together? Will it be Cameron and Clegg? Separate programme or continuation with Dimbleby?0 -
Itwasrigged Posts: 68
12:11AM
Media is getting predictable. STV showing it isn't much better than the BBC Wonder if she is related to Jim Murphy
Strikes me as this could be very damaging to Labour. A number of journos cited it as supposed evidence of Murphy's persuasive powers. They will feel pretty stupid.0 -
With the Teletubbies starting again I think we should start a petition to have OGH as the face in the sun.RobD said:
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GenuLOL. Anyone good at photoshop?another_richard said:
With the Teletubbies starting again I think we should start a petition to have OGH as the face in the sun.RobD said:
...*banned*0 -
I'm still not exactly sure what the policy is or what a non dom is etc. Remaining in this sort of ignorance keeps me in tune with the electorate. It sounds like bash the very, very, very rich and as most people think people with CONSIDERABLY more money than them should have to pay a bit more it'll play well.Tykejohnno said:
Well that's part of labours audience,it sounds good brigade ;-)john_zims said:@Tykejohnno
'Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit'
BBC couldn't find a single person in Warwick North who knew what a Non Dom was.
Actually finding out the specifics of any Labour policy will diminish your understanding of the effect.
Bit like the debates. To fully appreciate them you don't need to watch them, just check out who has won afterwards
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You are suffering from hysterical election overload. The policy has unravelled. Ed Balls has done the tories job for them.Tykejohnno said:
Do you think Thatcher would have backtracked on this,she would have sent her big hitters out defending it and get message across that labour could hit public services with they political stunt.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
The tories are in government - in elections they are there to be shot at. It goes with the territory. Labour are making a poor job at it.0 -
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Labour policy coming thick and fast,policies what ordinary people care about and what are the tories up to,something about 4 subs.
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Has it bollocks, the only people noticing it unravelling are those who pay too much attention to the news.Flightpath said:
You are suffering from hysterical election overload. The policy has unravelled. Ed Balls has done the tories job for them.Tykejohnno said:
Do you think Thatcher would have backtracked on this,she would have sent her big hitters out defending it and get message across that labour could hit public services with they political stunt.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
The tories are in government - in elections they are there to be shot at. It goes with the territory. Labour are making a poor job at it.
The big message battle today was "Labour - On your side" vs "Conservative competence". I'm scoring today to Labour at any rate.
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Its even better than that.Pulpstar said:
I'm still not exactly sure what the policy is or what a non dom is etc. Remaining in this sort of ignorance keeps me in tune with the electorate. It sounds like bash the very, very, very rich and as most people think people with CONSIDERABLY more money than them should have to pay a bit more it'll play well.Tykejohnno said:
Well that's part of labours audience,it sounds good brigade ;-)john_zims said:@Tykejohnno
'Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit'
BBC couldn't find a single person in Warwick North who knew what a Non Dom was.
Actually finding out the specifics of any Labour policy will diminish your understanding of the effect.
Bit like the debates. To fully appreciate them you don't need to watch them, just check out who has won afterwards
It sounds like bash the very, very, very rich foreigners.
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Wrong,labour have got they message across to the people they wanted to on this,job done.Flightpath said:
You are suffering from hysterical election overload. The policy has unravelled. Ed Balls has done the tories job for them.Tykejohnno said:
Do you think Thatcher would have backtracked on this,she would have sent her big hitters out defending it and get message across that labour could hit public services with they political stunt.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
The tories are in government - in elections they are there to be shot at. It goes with the territory. Labour are making a poor job at it.
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Plugging in an estimated voting sample of 1400 into tonight's YG, I get a Lab lead of 1.4%, highest since February...Danny565 said:
Give us your bent-ELBOW of the week so far!Sunil_Prasannan said:Can it be a coincidence that within days of the first Tory lead in ELBOW, the pollsters either can't be arsed this week, or come up with Labour leads?
(only kidding!)0 -
Its news to me that teenagers don't already get this. Isn't that what happens at schools? If it doesn't, it should.Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Labour policy coming thick and fast,policies what ordinary people care about and what are the tories up to,something about 4 subs.0 -
David Coburn seems to be the story out of tonight's Scottish debate. He could be the man who helps Mundell hold onto DCT in all honesty !0
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Zac Goldsmith was a non dom until he entered Parliament. If he was British enough to be entering Parliament, why was he allowed to be a non dom ? His brother, apparently, a Conservative donor, did not comment last month as to whether he was one or not.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
They "inherited" their non-domicile status meaning they and their children could continue not paying taxes on overseas earnings for decades even if they reside here like 99% of other Britons, but the 99% of the others would have to pay tax on the same overseas earnings !
Is this fair ?0 -
You don't have to be British to enter Parliament.surbiton said:
Zac Goldsmith was a non dom until he entered Parliament. If he was British enough to be entering Parliament, why was he allowed to be a non dom ? His brother, apparently, a Conservative donor, did not comment last month as to whether he was one or not.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
They "inherited" their non-domicile status meaning they and their children could continue not paying taxes on overseas earnings for decades even if they reside here like 99% of other Britons, but the 99% of the others would have to pay tax on the same overseas earnings !
Is this fair ?0 -
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
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Nicola, you sound rattled ! You were not very good tonight !scotslass said:Itwasrigged Posts: 68
12:11AM
Media is getting predictable. STV showing it isn't much better than the BBC Wonder if she is related to Jim Murphy
Strikes me as this could be very damaging to Labour. A number of journos cited it as supposed evidence of Murphy's persuasive powers. They will feel pretty stupid.0 -
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That is not the point. The point is someone could stay in this country for years and decades and even pass on the privilege to his children which is denied to 99% of others.RobD said:
You don't have to be British to enter Parliament.surbiton said:
Zac Goldsmith was a non dom until he entered Parliament. If he was British enough to be entering Parliament, why was he allowed to be a non dom ? His brother, apparently, a Conservative donor, did not comment last month as to whether he was one or not.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
They "inherited" their non-domicile status meaning they and their children could continue not paying taxes on overseas earnings for decades even if they reside here like 99% of other Britons, but the 99% of the others would have to pay tax on the same overseas earnings !
Is this fair ?
This is really indefensible.0 -
In Thatcher's day the ultra rich would have been a business executive earning £150Kpa.Tykejohnno said:
Do you think Thatcher would have backtracked on this,she would have sent her big hitters out defending it and get message across that labour could hit public services with they political stunt.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
This is where the increase in inequality and the reduction in socioeconomic mobility is damaging the Conservatives.
What we have now is a much larger gap between the average person and the ultra rich and the ultra rich becoming an increasingly closed off section of society.
Its very damaging to a party associated as being 'on the side of the rich' when the 'rich' become totally disconnected from everyone else.
I've pointed this out before but Harry Enfield's 'Loadsamoney' character from the last years of Thatcher was not a banker or a yuppie but a plasterer.
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Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.0 -
Yup ! Edward Miliband is a soft touch. EICIPM.john_zims said:@Tykejohnno
'Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit'
BBC couldn't find a single person in North Warwickshire who knew what a Non Dom was.
Funny, very few PBTories now write the long hand , "Ed is Crap" !0 -
Yes, it's a ruddy good idea. When I was at school it was piecemeal until sixth form - you had about 2 form lessons in Year 10 with a computer program and a teacher. A face to face adviser would've been a vast improvement, as you would've been able to admit hopes, fears and ambitions in private rather than joking around saying you'd join the mafia or become a spy, or laughing when your mate got 'sandwich maker' (nothing wrong with that, just seemed strange to be qualified for). Could help improve kids results if they see their work as leading to something tangible, and shouldn't prove too costly as you could have one or two per area.FrancisUrquhart said:
Its news to me that teenagers don't already get this. Isn't that what happens at schools? If it doesn't, it should.Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Labour policy coming thick and fast,policies what ordinary people care about and what are the tories up to,something about 4 subs.
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Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
A million teenagers, at say £50 per hour. They won't get much advice before the money runs out will they?Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
I see the same PR release mentions 'Guaranteed Apprenticeships'. I wonder how that will work in practice.0 -
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Labour are certainly playing a "we're on your side" strategy.marktheowl said:
Yes, it's a ruddy good idea. When I was at school it was piecemeal until sixth form - you had about 2 form lessons in Year 10 with a computer program and a teacher. A face to face adviser would've been a vast improvement, as you would've been able to admit hopes, fears and ambitions in private rather than joking around saying you'd join the mafia or become a spy, or laughing when your mate got 'sandwich maker' (nothing wrong with that, just seemed strange to be qualified for). Could help improve kids results if they see their work as leading to something tangible, and shouldn't prove too costly as you could have one or two per area.FrancisUrquhart said:
Its news to me that teenagers don't already get this. Isn't that what happens at schools? If it doesn't, it should.Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Labour policy coming thick and fast,policies what ordinary people care about and what are the tories up to,something about 4 subs.
And have picked areas where there is genuine cause for concern.
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£50 an hour?!? The only advice they'd have to give was 'become a careers advisor'.TheWatcher said:Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
A million teenagers, at say £50 per hour. They won't get much advice before the money runs out will they?Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
I see the same PR release mentions 'Guaranteed Apprenticeships'. I wonder how that will work in practice.
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After a slow start, probably as they'd invested so much attention in the debates, Labour now seem in the ascendancy, just. They've had the first policy 'hit' of the campaign. What's been strange about the Tory campaign so far is that there's been no real attempt to confound expectations with something like that. You'd have thought it would take one look at a poll to see that they're disliked as heartless and arrogant. I'm surprised Osborne didn't do the non dom thing tbh. Still, I'm sure he has a few rabbits. One better not be IHT though, it won't play as well as 2007.another_richard said:
Labour are certainly playing a "we're on your side" strategy.marktheowl said:
Yes, it's a ruddy good idea. When I was at school it was piecemeal until sixth form - you had about 2 form lessons in Year 10 with a computer program and a teacher. A face to face adviser would've been a vast improvement, as you would've been able to admit hopes, fears and ambitions in private rather than joking around saying you'd join the mafia or become a spy, or laughing when your mate got 'sandwich maker' (nothing wrong with that, just seemed strange to be qualified for). Could help improve kids results if they see their work as leading to something tangible, and shouldn't prove too costly as you could have one or two per area.FrancisUrquhart said:
Its news to me that teenagers don't already get this. Isn't that what happens at schools? If it doesn't, it should.Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Labour policy coming thick and fast,policies what ordinary people care about and what are the tories up to,something about 4 subs.
And have picked areas where there is genuine cause for concern.
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Teachers are the last people who should give careers advice.TheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.0 -
Its a fair point from Watcher. £50 per CONTACT hr doesn't seem that crazy, because that doesn't mean £50 in the individuals pocket.marktheowl said:
£50 an hour?!? The only advice they'd have to give was 'become a careers advisor'.TheWatcher said:Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
A million teenagers, at say £50 per hour. They won't get much advice before the money runs out will they?Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
I see the same PR release mentions 'Guaranteed Apprenticeships'. I wonder how that will work in practice.
You have to consider overheads, pension contributions, NI, travel, admin, etc. The true cost of an employee is far higher than their pay packet hourly.
I can see if you paid somebody £30-35k a year, you would eat up that £50 / hour.0 -
Domicile has nothing to do with nationality...RobD said:
You don't have to be British to enter Parliament.surbiton said:
Zac Goldsmith was a non dom until he entered Parliament. If he was British enough to be entering Parliament, why was he allowed to be a non dom ? His brother, apparently, a Conservative donor, did not comment last month as to whether he was one or not.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
They "inherited" their non-domicile status meaning they and their children could continue not paying taxes on overseas earnings for decades even if they reside here like 99% of other Britons, but the 99% of the others would have to pay tax on the same overseas earnings !
Is this fair ?0 -
"Labour's education manifesto also includes commitments to smaller classes in infants' schools, a qualified teacher in every classroom"
Now this is going to be an interesting one. They are going to have to do more than protect the education budget to achieve that, they need to be building schools like they are going out of fashion, given the massive rise in birth rates over the past few years.
And by qualified i presume they mean got their union certified teacher "badge", not that maths grads will teach maths, chemistry grads teach chemistry, you know like proper qualified, like, innit.
They better getting planting a lot of magic money trees to fund the smaller classes, as that is horrifically expensive to achieve.0 -
So where does the £50 million from, or are they borrowing it?Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.
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Non-doms :-)Sandpit said:
So where does the £50 million from, or are they borrowing it?Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.0 -
B b bu but Balls said getting rid of the non-doms will cost the country money, not save it...FrancisUrquhart said:
Non-doms :-)Sandpit said:
So where does the £50 million from, or are they borrowing it?Tykejohnno said:
Teenagers will get guaranteed one-to-one career advice to plot pathway to workTheWatcher said:
'Free Owls!'Tykejohnno said:
BBC Politics ✔ @BBCPolitics
Teenagers will be guaranteed face-to-face individual careers advice if Labour forms the next government... http://bbc.in/1DlK3Jd
Who, exactly, will be giving this careers advice? And what happens afterwards? There aren't thousands of trained advisers on standby, twiddling their thumbs. Unless of course it's a job creation scheme on a par with the infamous HIPs Inspectors of the previous government. Not Yvette Coopers finest hour.
Unless the plan is for teachers to do it. Standby for a mass moan-a-thon and grabbing hands reaching out for more cash.
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/115891848239/teenagers-will-get-guaranteed-one-to-one-career
It will cost £50 million labour saying.0 -
surbiton Posts:12:38AM
Has it ever occurred to you guys that if someone like me - who could not have given a stuff about the SNP just a while ago - is thought by you to be so committed to their cause then there must be a fundamental political shift going on in Scotland.
As for Nicola. She was brilliant last week, excellent and a clear winner last night. Tonight in the words of Andrew Neil she was a women standing her ground. Murphy on the other hand comes across as not just overly agressive but rather weird.
I think his "convert" being exposed as a Labour plant is a good story. Why don't you?0 -
I don't know... Belgium managed without a government for a while without any problems.Sandpit said:
The nightmare result.surbiton said:In SPIN, Lab + SNP + SDLP + Green + PC = 322
Con + LD +UKIP + DUP = 322
What chance a Lab - Con coalition, if only to get the boundary changes and Trident renewal through before going back to the People in the autumn..?0 -
Ed Miliband’s wife has revealed how he led her to believe he was single when they met at a dinner party – at the home of the woman he was dating.
Justine Miliband said she was furious to discover he was seeing another woman.
She also described how that evening, the future Labour leader bored her by insisting on talking about economics.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3031236/Cameron-s-winning-floating-voters-37-cent-impressed-Prime-Minister-s-performance-election-campaign.html0 -
Welcome back Andy, great to see you posting again.AndyJS said:
I don't know... Belgium managed without a government for a while without any problems.
Sandpit said:
The nightmare result.surbiton said:In SPIN, Lab + SNP + SDLP + Green + PC = 322
Con + LD +UKIP + DUP = 322
What chance a Lab - Con coalition, if only to get the boundary changes and Trident renewal through before going back to the People in the autumn..?0 -
I bet she was bored - he seems not to have even the most basic understanding of economicsFrancisUrquhart said:Ed Miliband’s wife has revealed how he led her to believe he was single when they met at a dinner party – at the home of the woman he was dating.
Justine Miliband said she was furious to discover he was seeing another woman.
She also described how that evening, the future Labour leader bored her by insisting on talking about economics.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3031236/Cameron-s-winning-floating-voters-37-cent-impressed-Prime-Minister-s-performance-election-campaign.html0 -
Thanks Fitalass.
Constituency nominations close at 4pm. I currently have 3,675 candidates on my list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dFkzTjFrRmJRN3F6ODBTTEs4NGFhcUE#gid=0fitalass said:Welcome back Andy, great to see you posting again.
AndyJS said:I don't know... Belgium managed without a government for a while without any problems.
Sandpit said:
The nightmare result.surbiton said:In SPIN, Lab + SNP + SDLP + Green + PC = 322
Con + LD +UKIP + DUP = 322
What chance a Lab - Con coalition, if only to get the boundary changes and Trident renewal through before going back to the People in the autumn..?0 -
Why would Lab want to pass the boundary changes?Sandpit said:
The nightmare result.surbiton said:In SPIN, Lab + SNP + SDLP + Green + PC = 322
Con + LD +UKIP + DUP = 322
What chance a Lab - Con coalition, if only to get the boundary changes and Trident renewal through before going back to the People in the autumn..?0
