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That was a LibLab pact. I cannot see BJO's figures making a functioning government.welshowl said:
I actually think that's about right as we stand but then it's 1974-9 all over again. Messy.bigjohnowls said:273 + 43 = 316
PC/SDLP/Green gets EICIPM over the line
ARSE has that combination about 30 short
We will see in 29 days if JackW is right
A majority of 20 odd is needed to function.0 -
Yes, if I were Labour I'd stay clear of the 'plays a blinder' stuff from now on and just hope to sneak in by the back door. After today's meltdown the media will be smashing holes in Labour proposals for sport. Best not to provide them with the ammunition in the first place and deny them the satisfaction.TheWatcher said:
Will it fall apart after an hour, or stay the course until lunchtime?compouter2 said:
Another good headline grabber coming Friday....so I hear ;-)RobD said:
Lab dangerously close to running out of ideas with 29 days to go. Perhaps that's the plan?FattyBolger said:SMukesh said:
Tories thrashing about.TheScreamingEagles said:Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"
7 year old should resit exams.
Online porn will be blocked.
We will buy 4 subs.
Much as it distresses me to agree with him, Smukesh is correct. Tory campaign is a disappointing shambles....I support the Cons but the SATS and porn things are just rubbish...the sort of thing that you put out on a a boring february tuesday in the third year of a parlt..ZHC and Nondoms are both clearly economically iliterate bonkers to an informed audience but work for the politically non-engaged in an election context....unless Lynton Crosby has a cunning plan this is not going as intended....
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I've just seen the one also, in my own constituency a UKIP billboardAndyJS said:I've seen just one election poster so far — for Theresa May on the A404 outside Maidenhead. Didn't seem to be anything in Ealing Central & Acton yesterday despite it being a crucial marginal.
A bit strange as it was majoring on getting big business to pay their fair share of tax
A coffee cup full of cash with "megabucks" on the side.. not an obvious concern around here I would have thought
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Actually if you look at Lord A's polls today and compare the relative gain %s for Labour to get to that 270, it is pretty good for them - Harrow East down at 22% for instance, the only one on their model that Labour should be getting is Morecambe and Lunesdale.0
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Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it0 -
No, Ed Miliband won by crafting his political message well for his audience - the unions didn't have to back him and didn't all do, and he realised that large parts of the Labour Party weren't entirely comfortable with a leader who was in close proximity to rendition and Iraq and so under an alternative vote system which included 'affiliates' who tend to be to the left of the main party, staking out a position as a moderate non-New Labour candidate was always a promising strategy due to preferential voting, and everyone knew that the union bosses would support the person with the best chance of defeating David.Ishmael_X said:
Ed won by cheating, actually. Or rather letting GMB and Unite cheat for him.Cyclefree said:
Not this old canard again! David Milliband had no more right to the Labour leadership than my dog. Ed won under the rules. Ruthlessness is not a bad quality to find in a political leader.TheScreamingEagles said:Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"0 -
Mixed day really - Ashcroft constituency polls good for Con (in my view, I know some disagree), YouGov good for Lab.
Labour has dominated the news two days in a row - Tony Blair and non-doms. I do hope Con have an announcement about something (indeed anything) to get some headlines tomorrow.
I can't see anything which would cause people to switch to Con over the last 48 hours. They need to start saying something.0 -
Drawing up my PB List for Election night, each person gets two, some extra special posters get three,so we can all have a little fist pump when those Labour gains come in.ls there ayone in particular you would like apart from Andy Sawford?Tykejohnno said:
You did notice I did a couple of tweets on Nicky Morgan,I'm like fox news-fair and balanced ;-)compouter2 said:
The Scum is now getting desperate,it is even running the same anti-Labour, anti-Ed, pro-Tory stories over and over again on its twitter page.Tykejohnno said:
Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics
Tony Blair sparks fresh Labour civil war on Europe http://sunpl.us/60114rB7 pic.twitter.com/bQeMR23l11
Hope so.
Though to balance it up amongst the dozens of one way stories a story about Kelly Brook fancying Ed Miliband?????0 -
Err....Ed is Crap!MikeL said:Mixed day really - Ashcroft constituency polls good for Con (in my view, I know some disagree), YouGov good for Lab.
Labour has dominated the news two days in a row - Tony Blair and non-doms. I do hope Con have an announcement about something (indeed anything) to get some headlines tomorrow.
I can't see anything which would cause people to switch to Con over the last 48 hours. They need to start saying something.0 -
Have been at Snooker WC qualifiers all day today.
Same tomorrow,Friday and next Monday Tuesday Wednesday.
72 hrs of top class sport for the princely sum of £40.
Am then at Crucible for the first 5 days.
No LAB activist stuff from me till 1st May for a full week in Amber Valley and Sheffield Hallam0 -
Nigel Dodds, Nicola Sturgeon and Tim Farron are going to have some decisions to make after the election.foxinsoxuk said:
That was a LibLab pact. I cannot see BJO's figures making a functioning government.welshowl said:
I actually think that's about right as we stand but then it's 1974-9 all over again. Messy.bigjohnowls said:273 + 43 = 316
PC/SDLP/Green gets EICIPM over the line
ARSE has that combination about 30 short
We will see in 29 days if JackW is right
A majority of 20 odd is needed to function.0 -
Nice cartoon, Marf!
YouGov had a methodology change this week, which may explain the lack of Blue leads!0 -
IHTMikeL said:Mixed day really - Ashcroft constituency polls good for Con (in my view, I know some disagree), YouGov good for Lab.
Labour has dominated the news two days in a row - Tony Blair and non-doms. I do hope Con have an announcement about something (indeed anything) to get some headlines tomorrow.
I can't see anything which would cause people to switch to Con over the last 48 hours. They need to start saying something.
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Bradford west ;-) seems a little spat going off with Gorgeous George and the labour candidate - lolcompouter2 said:
Drawing up my PB List for Election night, each person gets two, some extra special posters get three,so we can all have a little fist pump when those Labour gains come in.ls there ayone in particular you would like apart from Andy Sawford?Tykejohnno said:
You did notice I did a couple of tweets on Nicky Morgan,I'm like fox news-fair and balanced ;-)compouter2 said:
The Scum is now getting desperate,it is even running the same anti-Labour, anti-Ed, pro-Tory stories over and over again on its twitter page.Tykejohnno said:
Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics
Tony Blair sparks fresh Labour civil war on Europe http://sunpl.us/60114rB7 pic.twitter.com/bQeMR23l11
Hope so.
Though to balance it up amongst the dozens of one way stories a story about Kelly Brook fancying Ed Miliband?????
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*** Sunil offers out straws to clutchig PB Hodges *****Sunil_Prasannan said:Nice cartoon, Marf!
YouGov had a methodology change this week, which may explain the lack of Blue leads!
Top Man Sunil!0 -
What was the change?Sunil_Prasannan said:
YouGov had a methodology change this week, which may explain the lack of Blue leads!0 -
Have you back checked to their old method ?Sunil_Prasannan said:Nice cartoon, Marf!
YouGov had a methodology change this week, which may explain the lack of Blue leads!0 -
'The mother and father of all banana skins' as one well known political commentator said earlier.Stark_Dawning said:
Yes, if I were Labour I'd stay clear of the 'plays a blinder' stuff from now on and just hope to sneak in by the back door. After today's meltdown the media will be smashing holes in Labour proposals for sport. Best not to provide them with the ammunition in the first place and deny them the satisfaction.TheWatcher said:
Will it fall apart after an hour, or stay the course until lunchtime?compouter2 said:
Another good headline grabber coming Friday....so I hear ;-)RobD said:
Lab dangerously close to running out of ideas with 29 days to go. Perhaps that's the plan?FattyBolger said:SMukesh said:
Tories thrashing about.TheScreamingEagles said:Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"
7 year old should resit exams.
Online porn will be blocked.
We will buy 4 subs.
Much as it distresses me to agree with him, Smukesh is correct. Tory campaign is a disappointing shambles....I support the Cons but the SATS and porn things are just rubbish...the sort of thing that you put out on a a boring february tuesday in the third year of a parlt..ZHC and Nondoms are both clearly economically iliterate bonkers to an informed audience but work for the politically non-engaged in an election context....unless Lynton Crosby has a cunning plan this is not going as intended....0 -
Naz Shah is your second Labour candidate. Two fist pumps for you election night.Tykejohnno said:
Bradford west ;-) seems a little spat going off with Gorgeous George and the labour candidate - lolcompouter2 said:
Drawing up my PB List for Election night, each person gets two, some extra special posters get three,so we can all have a little fist pump when those Labour gains come in.ls there ayone in particular you would like apart from Andy Sawford?Tykejohnno said:
You did notice I did a couple of tweets on Nicky Morgan,I'm like fox news-fair and balanced ;-)compouter2 said:
The Scum is now getting desperate,it is even running the same anti-Labour, anti-Ed, pro-Tory stories over and over again on its twitter page.Tykejohnno said:
Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics
Tony Blair sparks fresh Labour civil war on Europe http://sunpl.us/60114rB7 pic.twitter.com/bQeMR23l11
Hope so.
Though to balance it up amongst the dozens of one way stories a story about Kelly Brook fancying Ed Miliband?????0 -
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it0 -
BJESUS has a LAB/SNP figure of 335. (294 +41)foxinsoxuk said:
That was a LibLab pact. I cannot see BJO's figures making a functioning government.welshowl said:
I actually think that's about right as we stand but then it's 1974-9 all over again. Messy.bigjohnowls said:273 + 43 = 316
PC/SDLP/Green gets EICIPM over the line
ARSE has that combination about 30 short
We will see in 29 days if JackW is right
A majority of 20 odd is needed to function.
Off to land of Nod with happy thoughts0 -
I can't see anything which would cause people to switch to Con over the last 48 hours. They need to start saying something.
Alternatively, you could say that the tories are keeping pace whilst wasting very little energy. And they have four new nuclear subs lined up for tomorrow.
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@SunPolitics: Labour's vow to close a tax loophole for rich Brits is in tatters http://t.co/bRVK6Ra2b8 http://t.co/FwgZANUWJD0
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I agree with you. David Miliband is a better communicator but would have had too much baggage.marktheowl said:
No, Ed Miliband won by crafting his political message well for his audience - the unions didn't have to back him and didn't all do, and he realised that large parts of the Labour Party weren't entirely comfortable with a leader who was in close proximity to rendition and Iraq and so under an alternative vote system which included 'affiliates' who tend to be to the left of the main party, staking out a position as a moderate non-New Labour candidate was always a promising strategy due to preferential voting, and everyone knew that the union bosses would support the person with the best chance of defeating David.Ishmael_X said:
Ed won by cheating, actually. Or rather letting GMB and Unite cheat for him.Cyclefree said:
Not this old canard again! David Milliband had no more right to the Labour leadership than my dog. Ed won under the rules. Ruthlessness is not a bad quality to find in a political leader.TheScreamingEagles said:Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"
Andy Burnham was the best of the 5, but a pretty poor field to choose from.
Though with Liz Kendall about, next contest will be more interesting.0 -
Pulpstar Indeed
Dair Regardless of methodology no poll is showing Yes with a big enough lead for Sturgeon to risk another referendum now and she won't0 -
Fox Though I believe it was LD from 1997-20010
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foxinsoxuk said:
My Uncle on the IOW had had a couple of flyers. One from the LD and one from the kipper. Both were Islanders, which counts for a lot there with the caulkheads and even the overners.HYUFD said:Fox Have seen quite a few Tory posters, had some leaflets from Labour and the LDs but a poster is never a judge of turnout, only the most committed have one, with the election so close, the SNP and the economic situation I would expect turnout to be about the same as 2010, if not higher
(Caulkhead =born on the Island, overner = born on the mainland)
Isn't that the MP on the IOW whose election agent was his partner, is still his agent but moved in with his political aide, causing his constituency party to go beserk? UKIP were in with a shout, might not be now with the purple's decline.foxinsoxuk said:
The Tory MP is incumbent since 2001, but a mainlander. Not popular but likely to hold on.HYUFD said:Fox Indeed, IOW is one place a local candidate has a head start
Welcome back Andy! I have missed your spreadsheets.
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Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it0 -
Ed better work out a coherent position on Nukes.taffys said:I can't see anything which would cause people to switch to Con over the last 48 hours. They need to start saying something.
Alternatively, you could say that the tories are keeping pace whilst wasting very little energy. And they have four new nuclear subs lined up for tomorrow.0 -
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/04/08/labour-lead-2/Danny565 said:
What was the change?Sunil_Prasannan said:
YouGov had a methodology change this week, which may explain the lack of Blue leads!0 -
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it0 -
In my village in the Forest of Dean I have received 4 glossy UKIP leaflets, and only one quite non-descript Tory flyer from table dancing tory boy Mark Harper (who I will be voting for) ...nothing from lDs or Lab....Tories will waltz it in FoD but I live in a Kippery village (district councillor etc)....so perhaps UKIP are locally focussing the message...0 -
Isn't it the same as the tory policy ?Pulpstar said:
Ed better work out a coherent position on Nukes.taffys said:I can't see anything which would cause people to switch to Con over the last 48 hours. They need to start saying something.
Alternatively, you could say that the tories are keeping pace whilst wasting very little energy. And they have four new nuclear subs lined up for tomorrow.
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I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it0 -
What he actually needs is a coherent policy on Nicola SturgeonTykejohnno said:Isn't it the same as the tory policy ?
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Forgive the pedantry, but it remains the Royal Navy even post-ScotInd. The name refers to the Crown, not the areas under it.KentRising said:Now we're rolling. New jobs in Plymouth and Cumbria, serving the subs of the Royal English Navy.
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It will be if miliband comes out the winner.compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
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Off to a good start...Pulpstar said:Ed better work out a coherent position on Nukes.
@tnewtondunn: "Lies and smears", says Labour on Fallon's Trident challenge. So commit to Navy's minimum of four bomber subs and end it then, @edballsmp?0 -
An Ashcroft poll in Forest of Dean would be interesting. One of UKIP's best hopes in the west of England.FattyBolger said:
In my village in the Forest of Dean I have received 4 glossy UKIP leaflets, and only one quite non-descript Tory flyer from table dancing tory boy Mark Harper (who I will be voting for) ...nothing from lDs or Lab....Tories will waltz it in FoD but I live in a Kippery village (district councillor etc)....so perhaps UKIP are locally focussing the message...0 -
Island politics can be a bit incestuous!marktheowl said:foxinsoxuk said:
My Uncle on the IOW had had a couple of flyers. One from the LD and one from the kipper. Both were Islanders, which counts for a lot there with the caulkheads and even the overners.HYUFD said:Fox Have seen quite a few Tory posters, had some leaflets from Labour and the LDs but a poster is never a judge of turnout, only the most committed have one, with the election so close, the SNP and the economic situation I would expect turnout to be about the same as 2010, if not higher
(Caulkhead =born on the Island, overner = born on the mainland)
Isn't that the MP on the IOW whose election agent was his partner, is still his agent but moved in with his political aide, causing his constituency party to go beserk? UKIP were in with a shout, might not be now with the purple's decline.foxinsoxuk said:
The Tory MP is incumbent since 2001, but a mainlander. Not popular but likely to hold on.HYUFD said:Fox Indeed, IOW is one place a local candidate has a head start
Welcome back Andy! I have missed your spreadsheets.
My Uncle will be Tory, but the young cousins will be voting Green at Uni in Brighton.
I believe so, but cannot see them retaking it.HYUFD said:Fox Though I believe it was LD from 1997-2001
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On the bright side for Dave I am sure his coalition partner NickClegg will stick up for him ;-)Tykejohnno said:
It will be if miliband comes out the winner.compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it0 -
Apparently Tory HQ really believed that Ed Miliband, the ultimate political animal, would be unable to make himself even mildly presentable the British people and any appearance from him would lead to him losing votes, and so Cameron appearing more was an unnecessary risk. I admit to being surprised they would think so - sure, supporters online might think that, but the people calling the shots as well?compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
Night all. Get used to the idea Ed M is going to be PM, because he is.0 -
Noone pays any attention to this airtime outside the main events though. People barely will pay attention to the debates but if Ed (Or Even Nigel) wins it'll be bad. Perhaps Sturgeon can save Dave's bacon.Scott_P said:
Dave gets airtime to compensatePulpstar said:Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate.
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Lucky you living in a marginal. So far I've had bugger all in the way of leaflets, and nor am I expecting any. And the loons still think FPTP means that we all have equal votes! the truth is that the political parties couldn't give a monkeys about what the majority of voters in the majority of seats thinks.FattyBolger said:
In my village in the Forest of Dean I have received 4 glossy UKIP leaflets, and only one quite non-descript Tory flyer from table dancing tory boy Mark Harper (who I will be voting for) ...nothing from lDs or Lab....Tories will waltz it in FoD but I live in a Kippery village (district councillor etc)....so perhaps UKIP are locally focussing the message...
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Ed B is still confused about what he really said in January. Give him a chance.Scott_P said:
Off to a good start...Pulpstar said:Ed better work out a coherent position on Nukes.
@tnewtondunn: "Lies and smears", says Labour on Fallon's Trident challenge. So commit to Navy's minimum of four bomber subs and end it then, @edballsmp?0 -
Apparently...kle4 said:
Apparently Tory HQ really believed that Ed Miliband, the ultimate political animal, would be unable to make himself even mildly presentable the British people and any appearance from him would lead to him losing votes, and so Cameron appearing more was an unnecessary risk. I admit to being surprised they would think so - sure, supporters online might think that, but the people calling the shots as well?compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
Night all. Get used to the idea Ed M is going to be PM, because he is.0 -
The debate runs for 1.5 hours. It is immediately followed by 30 mins exclusively with the Tories and Lib DemsPulpstar said:
Noone pays any attention to this airtime outside the main events though. People barely will pay attention to the debates but if Ed (Or Even Nigel) wins it'll be bad. Perhaps Sturgeon can save Dave's bacon.0 -
He ain't there either.compouter2 said:
On the bright side for Dave I am sure his coalition partner Nick Clegg will stick up for him ;-)Tykejohnno said:
It will be if miliband comes out the winner.compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
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Iain Dale on Sky News paper review just mentioned the Greens' 1989 Euro election PEB. It's quite good IMO:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziZOQ-_NRJo0 -
So not only is the yougov a sample of a sample of the UK population, it is now a sample of a sample of a sample of the UK population.Sunil_Prasannan said:
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/04/08/labour-lead-2/Danny565 said:
What was the change?Sunil_Prasannan said:
YouGov had a methodology change this week, which may explain the lack of Blue leads!
Treat with extreme caution!0 -
The tories could be on to something here,labour want 3 subs for different reasons,one for a deal with the SNP(lib dems) another to save money.
Won't get my hopes up of a labour mistake here ;-)
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What I cannot understand in all this was there was a leak from the Tory Focus group which where showed Miliband doing his speeches around the country. It showed there were a significant number of the focus group "warmed" to Miliband more they saw of him. So, despite knowing this, the still screwed up the debates. This going around telling people Ed is Crap is gaining no traction. They might have well handed out links to this website and asked people to click on the comments section. Could have saved them millions.kle4 said:
Apparently Tory HQ really believed that Ed Miliband, the ultimate political animal, would be unable to make himself even mildly presentable the British people and any appearance from him would lead to him losing votes, and so Cameron appearing more was an unnecessary risk. I admit to being surprised they would think so - sure, supporters online might think that, but the people calling the shots as well?compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
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ARF!Pulpstar said:
He ain't there either.compouter2 said:
On the bright side for Dave I am sure his coalition partner Nick Clegg will stick up for him ;-)Tykejohnno said:
It will be if miliband comes out the winner.compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
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And yet Ed Miliband fails to appear on the majority of Labour PPC leaflets, and campaign literature.compouter2 said:
What I cannot understand in all this was there was a leak from the Tory Focus group which where showed Miliband doing his speeches around the country. It showed there were a significant number of the focus group "warmed" to Miliband more they saw of him. So, despite knowing this, the still screwed up the debates. This going around telling people Ed is Crap is gaining no traction. They might have well handed out links to this website and asked people to click on the comments section. Could have saved them millions.kle4 said:
Apparently Tory HQ really believed that Ed Miliband, the ultimate political animal, would be unable to make himself even mildly presentable the British people and any appearance from him would lead to him losing votes, and so Cameron appearing more was an unnecessary risk. I admit to being surprised they would think so - sure, supporters online might think that, but the people calling the shots as well?compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
Night all. Get used to the idea Ed M is going to be PM, because he is.
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I'll be brutally honest - I'm quite glad I'm in a non marginalChris_A said:
Lucky you living in a marginal. So far I've had bugger all in the way of leaflets, and nor am I expecting any. And the loons still think FPTP means that we all have equal votes! the truth is that the political parties couldn't give a monkeys about what the majority of voters in the majority of seats thinks.FattyBolger said:
In my village in the Forest of Dean I have received 4 glossy UKIP leaflets, and only one quite non-descript Tory flyer from table dancing tory boy Mark Harper (who I will be voting for) ...nothing from lDs or Lab....Tories will waltz it in FoD but I live in a Kippery village (district councillor etc)....so perhaps UKIP are locally focussing the message.... Not sure I'm really going to mean it whoever I vote for.
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What is the format of that 30 mins?Scott_P said:
The debate runs for 1.5 hours. It is immediately followed by 30 mins exclusively with the Tories and Lib DemsPulpstar said:
Noone pays any attention to this airtime outside the main events though. People barely will pay attention to the debates but if Ed (Or Even Nigel) wins it'll be bad. Perhaps Sturgeon can save Dave's bacon.
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It doesn't really matter does it. Even people on here are starting to wake up to the fact His Crapness will be PM.TheWatcher said:
And yet Ed Miliband fails to appear on the majority of Labour PPC leaflets, and campaign literature.compouter2 said:
What I cannot understand in all this was there was a leak from the Tory Focus group which where showed Miliband doing his speeches around the country. It showed there were a significant number of the focus group "warmed" to Miliband more they saw of him. So, despite knowing this, the still screwed up the debates. This going around telling people Ed is Crap is gaining no traction. They might have well handed out links to this website and asked people to click on the comments section. Could have saved them millions.kle4 said:
Apparently Tory HQ really believed that Ed Miliband, the ultimate political animal, would be unable to make himself even mildly presentable the British people and any appearance from him would lead to him losing votes, and so Cameron appearing more was an unnecessary risk. I admit to being surprised they would think so - sure, supporters online might think that, but the people calling the shots as well?compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
Night all. Get used to the idea Ed M is going to be PM, because he is.
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Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
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Some of us have even been betting on it.compouter2 said:
It doesn't really matter does it. Even people on here are starting to wake up to the fact His Crapness will be PM.TheWatcher said:
And yet Ed Miliband fails to appear on the majority of Labour PPC leaflets, and campaign literature.compouter2 said:
What I cannot understand in all this was there was a leak from the Tory Focus group which where showed Miliband doing his speeches around the country. It showed there were a significant number of the focus group "warmed" to Miliband more they saw of him. So, despite knowing this, the still screwed up the debates. This going around telling people Ed is Crap is gaining no traction. They might have well handed out links to this website and asked people to click on the comments section. Could have saved them millions.kle4 said:
Apparently Tory HQ really believed that Ed Miliband, the ultimate political animal, would be unable to make himself even mildly presentable the British people and any appearance from him would lead to him losing votes, and so Cameron appearing more was an unnecessary risk. I admit to being surprised they would think so - sure, supporters online might think that, but the people calling the shots as well?compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
Night all. Get used to the idea Ed M is going to be PM, because he is.
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Policy Disaster, Labour Campaign Meltown....etc etc. And with that, I bid you all goodnight.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
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TSE or TPD?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's not that. This week, I've been telling YouGov that I'm voting Lib Dem = No Tory leadRobD said:
Quite right. Too hungover to fill out an online poll.felix said:
Nah lots f the Tories still skiing and many more in the sun till next week.FrancisUrquhart said:
Tory coming back from their holidays...Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
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Indy Ref two will NOT be in the Westminster manifesto. It will be in the 2016 Holyrood one, possibly.sarissa said:
Or Scottish MPs having second-class voting rights?HYUFD said:Brian Taylor on BBC Less likely than otherwise Sturgeon will make a manifesto commitment for another referendum unless a material change of circumstances eg an EU exit
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Its easy to spot where Labour replaced Conservative in the 1990s on the graph here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11518985/Bank-of-England-warns-on-Britains-120bn-payments-deficit.html
But not where Conservative replaced Labour in 2010.
And that's because Brown and Osborne have the same economic strategy:
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
Borrow and spend
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Ed is miles ahead with 18-34s if my Facebook is anything to go by.
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Do tell ;-)compouter2 said:
Another good headline grabber coming Friday....so I hear ;-)RobD said:
Lab dangerously close to running out of ideas with 29 days to go. Perhaps that's the plan?FattyBolger said:SMukesh said:
Tories thrashing about.TheScreamingEagles said:Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"
7 year old should resit exams.
Online porn will be blocked.
We will buy 4 subs.
Much as it distresses me to agree with him, Smukesh is correct. Tory campaign is a disappointing shambles....I support the Cons but the SATS and porn things are just rubbish...the sort of thing that you put out on a a boring february tuesday in the third year of a parlt..ZHC and Nondoms are both clearly economically iliterate bonkers to an informed audience but work for the politically non-engaged in an election context....unless Lynton Crosby has a cunning plan this is not going as intended....
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Shock of the evening, the girl Murphy persuaded to vote Labour was a plant !
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The complacency of the comfort zone.compouter2 said:
I still cannot understand how Tory HQ and the PB Hodges manage to spin themselves in thinking it was a major victory for Cameron.Totally agree....total balls up again Lynton.Pulpstar said:
Lynton's biggest error is somehow letting Ed on the Telly Four times and Dave blatantly skipping a debate. I don't care how that's spun - it's an error.compouter2 said:
Meanwhile over at Tory HQ Lynton is telling everyone he is well worth the hundreds of thousands of pounds they are paying him and it is all going swell. "So when does the campaign start Lynton". "Err, what campaign?.....Did I mention Ed is crap?".Stark_Dawning said:
Quite right. Labour shouldn't take any satisfaction from the likes of Bradby. It's been an easy device for lazy centre-right journalists for years now: say that Ed's 'played a blinder' and make yourself look like a free thinker and a bit of a maverick.Scott_P said:
Bradby was tweeting support for the policy all daycompouter2 said:the msm, through gritted Tory teeth
For him to say the policy was a winner is hardly news, but if it keeps you happy, go for it
The dangers of the dinner party focus group.
The errors of the echo chamber.
Its also why the Conservatives failed to win a majority in 2010.
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The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
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Tim Montgomerie: If voters have a choice between an individualist right and a big-government left, the latter will prove more popular
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Stereotomy said:
Anywhere we can watch the latest scottish debate online?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05qnt32/the-leaders-debate-scotland0 -
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I have finally realised that the picture you use is not of you but of Malcolm Tucker.
But now giving us the gospel according to the Mail's Alan Roden - give me strength. Do you not follow ANY real journos - Andrew "Brillo" Neil for example. Not my cup of tea but a journalist and not a bad joke like Iain Martin or Alan Rodent.0 -
Am rather baffled by the Tories making trident a major attack line, for a start it implicitly accepts that there's a fair likelihood of Ed M being PM. Secondly does anyone really care about trident that much? I get that it's kipper bait, but it's not exactly a frightening example of a hellish Labour government. On balance I'd renew it, as it strikes me as slightly daft to give up a huge negotiating chip, but honestly meh.
Sturgeon making trident a red line was also bizarre - would she bring down a Lab government and let the Tories in? Could rule it out and kill two birds with one stone, say 'we don't play politics with defence' - challenges the SNP to blink and say whether they think getting rid of it is so important it justifies a Tory government, and makes Labour and Ed look a bit tougher.0 -
If only Labour were really interested in closing tax loopholes exploited by their luvvie supporters. In fact they are only blowing a class war politics of envy dog whistle, its merely an attack on rich people ''choosing'' to live in the UK and whose money is earned abroad. It is not a tax 'loophole' - it is a policy to attract inward investment into the UK as opposed to elsewhere.Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: Labour's vow to close a tax loophole for rich Brits is in tatters http://t.co/bRVK6Ra2b8 http://t.co/FwgZANUWJD
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Yep. Not surprising. Rubbish policy and self defeating for the country but appeals to the ill informed. Depressing thing is lack of effective and popularly expressed Con counter-attack.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
A little pissed tonight ..... but unimpressed by Lynton. Truly hope there is a strategy to this approach and a decent announcement or two in the pipeline
In the populist mindset we cons are getting creamed at the mo
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Give us your bent-ELBOW of the week so far!Sunil_Prasannan said:Can it be a coincidence that within days of the first Tory lead in ELBOW, the pollsters either can't be arsed this week, or come up with Labour leads?
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If only Labour were really interested in closing tax loopholes exploited by their luvvie supporters. In fact they are only blowing a class war politics of envy dog whistle, its merely an attack on rich people ''choosing'' to live in the UK and whose money is earned abroad. It is not a tax 'loophole' - it is a policy to attract inward investment into the UK as opposed to elsewhere.Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: Labour's vow to close a tax loophole for rich Brits is in tatters http://t.co/bRVK6Ra2b8 http://t.co/FwgZANUWJD
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EdM party leadership campaign was the most impressive thing he has ever managed.Cyclefree said:
Not this old canard again! David Milliband had no more right to the Labour leadership than my dog. Ed won under the rules. Ruthlessness is not a bad quality to find in a political leader.TheScreamingEagles said:Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"
DM had at least four chances to challenge Brown for the leadership and lost his bottle each time, assuming that all he had to do was wait and he would be given the leadership.
Cowardice and complacency are not good qualities to find in a political leader.
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Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
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Labour are being blasted for their hypocrisy. If this is a successful policy announcement I'm a banana.FattyBolger said:
Yep. Not surprising. Rubbish policy and self defeating for the country but appeals to the ill informed. Depressing thing is lack of effective and popularly expressed Con counter-attack.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
A little pissed tonight ..... but unimpressed by Lynton. Truly hope there is a strategy to this approach and a decent announcement or two in the pipeline
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Shock of the evening, the girl Murphy persuaded to vote Labour was a plant !
Who'd have thunk it.
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ThanksTykejohnno said:Stereotomy said:Anywhere we can watch the latest scottish debate online?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05qnt32/the-leaders-debate-scotland0 -
Media is getting predictable. STV showing it isn't much better than the BBC Wonder if she is related to Jim Murphy https://twitter.com/YesAlliance59/status/585930896294944769?s=040
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Fox Not in the present climate no, night0
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Radio 4: Nondoms were introduced by William Pitt the Younger in 1799.0
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Do you think Thatcher would have backtracked on this,she would have sent her big hitters out defending it and get message across that labour could hit public services with they political stunt.Tykejohnno said:
Agree,tories should be defending it,shout loud and proud it pays for public services.Pulpstar said:
The Conservatives should stick to their guns on Non-Doms. As Flash pointed out these people generate alot of tax for the country... if a party of the centre-right can't make the case for that, what is the point of them ?!Tykejohnno said:
Christ,who said the tories doing bad this week.Tykejohnno said:
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit
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@Tykejohnno
'Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit'
BBC couldn't find a single person in North Warwickshire who knew what a Non Dom was.0 -
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Well that's part of labours audience,it sounds good brigade ;-)john_zims said:@Tykejohnno
'Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
YouGov/First Verdict App poll on Nom Doms: 77% approve of Miliband policy -
We reveal Tories seeking to copy... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/polit'
BBC couldn't find a single person in Warwick North who knew what a Non Dom was.
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