Skip to content

We live in an era of massive viral misinformation – politicalbetting.com

124»

Comments

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,642
    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Senegal go 2 up. That's probably it for Scotland.

    It's been all over for Scotland since South Korea lost. At that point, -1 goal difference at 3 points was the minimum bar. And even that may end up not making it.
    Yes, the goals given away to Brazil cost Scotland very dear. And the failure to get more against Haiti. Sad, but 1 goal in 3 games doesn't really deserve to go through to be honest.
    Even if Scotland had just gone 1-0 down against Brazil, I think it would probably not have been enough. That would have seen three countries on 3 points, with -1 goal difference: Croatia, South Korea and Scotland. And, I can't see all of them making it through.

    Scotland needed to either (a) manage a point against Morocco (which I felt they deserved); or (b) score more than once against Haiti (which they seemed disinclined to do).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I'd assume keep it on the basis it is often a hassle to undo, although Labour have gotten around, they say, to abolishing PCCs.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,285
    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
  • eekeek Posts: 34,244
    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    There are a lot of legal reasons why you could avoid giving Ben any more powers - just insist on audited accounts signed by the auditor
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,543
    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162
    Andy_JS said:

    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.

    He sounds like a very average Englishman in that case.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162
    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    Lord Houchem, please.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,691
    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    There be dragons Reform, LibDems and a Tory.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,670

    30 degrees in my living room right now, with the fan on!

    We need an 'unlike' button.
    The heatwave finished here about 6 hours ago. A lovely summer's evening but one which probably requires an extra layer if you're outside.
    Still hot inside, but that's architecture.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,800
    Andy_JS said:

    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.

    Makes a nice change then from the successive ones who have been just South.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,815
    The i Paper
    @theipaper
    Tomorrow's front page: The Burnham bounce: Labour leapfrogs Reform with new leader

    https://x.com/theipaper/status/2070626942408126861
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,815

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    32m
    Just one poll. But there's a trend.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616
    eek said:

    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    There are a lot of legal reasons why you could avoid giving Ben any more powers - just insist on audited accounts signed by the auditor
    Given the (lack of) standard of auditing in this country I doubt that would be a problem.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I hope not. As long as it works. Proper devolution of power from the centre is the first thing I have heard from Burnham that I can agree with.
    Likely to be beneficial to some places and detrimental to others.

    Especially so if they have increased scope for taxing and borrowing.

    What happens to any places which bankrupt themselves and then ask for a bailout ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,815

    BBC Newsnight
    @BBCNewsnight
    ·
    20m
    "You're spending something like £65 billion on defence and £360 billion on welfare. Lucky you, you must not feel any danger..."

    Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski on Britain's defence spending.

    https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/2070632151779783161
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,642

    Zia got utterly spanked on Question Time.

    He has some fans.

    https://x.com/archrose90/status/2070592823347347564

    .@ZiaYusufUK is a fantastic orator amongst a typical BBC audience and out of touch MPs.

    The audience member blamed Brexit for all of the country’s problems.

    Zia correctly pointed out that neither Labour nor the Tories have delivered what the British public voted for.
    Well, given that my desires for Brexit were fundamentally diffferent to those of -say- a steel worker from Redcar, that's kind of inevitable, isn't it?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616


    BBC Newsnight
    @BBCNewsnight
    ·
    20m
    "You're spending something like £65 billion on defence and £360 billion on welfare. Lucky you, you must not feel any danger..."

    Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski on Britain's defence spending.

    https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/2070632151779783161

    He has a point but there's no shortage of other countries which are even worse.

    For example:

    While many allies have raised defence spending significantly in light of Russia's war against Ukraine, the Czech Republic spent less ​than 2% of gross domestic product under a previous ​government last year, despite aiming to hit the target.

    Babis's government ⁠cut this year's original defence spending plan to around 1.7-1.8% ​of GDP but Babis had been saying he was looking for ​ways to meet the target. This is no longer the case, he said.

    "Our government will not meet 2% of GDP for defence either," Babis said ​in a post on Facebook. "We have to put public finances in ​order first."

    While cutting defence, Babis's cabinet raised spending to subsidise energy prices and ‌to ⁠fund road building, increasing the overall budget deficit for this year from levels proposed by the previous outgoing government.

    In the face of new security threats and U.S. demands for Europe to bear ​a larger share ​of responsibility for ⁠its defence, NATO has agreed to raise its minimum spending target to 5% of GDP by ​2035, including 3.5% on core military spending.


    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/czech-republic-will-miss-nato-defence-spending-target-again-this-year-pm-babis-2026-06-19/
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,259
    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193
  • eekeek Posts: 34,244

    eek said:

    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    There are a lot of legal reasons why you could avoid giving Ben any more powers - just insist on audited accounts signed by the auditor
    Given the (lack of) standard of auditing in this country I doubt that would be a problem.
    Oh I’m sure there are some local authorities where dodgy accounts have been signed off.

    My point is the Ben’s accounts have never been signed off due to problems so if the plan is to not delegate things to him there are ways of doing so
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,101
    rcs1000 said:

    Zia got utterly spanked on Question Time.

    He has some fans.

    https://x.com/archrose90/status/2070592823347347564

    .@ZiaYusufUK is a fantastic orator amongst a typical BBC audience and out of touch MPs.

    The audience member blamed Brexit for all of the country’s problems.

    Zia correctly pointed out that neither Labour nor the Tories have delivered what the British public voted for.
    Well, given that my desires for Brexit were fundamentally diffferent to those of -say- a steel worker from Redcar, that's kind of inevitable, isn't it?
    Nonsense. There was one true brexit vision. We keep it in a black-satin lined box that no light can escape or enter. Though we can condemn and cast out unbelievers.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,244
    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,800

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I hope not. As long as it works. Proper devolution of power from the centre is the first thing I have heard from Burnham that I can agree with.
    Likely to be beneficial to some places and detrimental to others.

    Especially so if they have increased scope for taxing and borrowing.

    What happens to any places which bankrupt themselves and then ask for a bailout ?
    I'm sure you can think of almost any other developed nation cos they'll be more devolved than us.
    Then look at what they do.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,800
    edited June 26
    eek said:

    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/

    Farage Riots 2025.
    Farage heatwave 2026.
    The guys on a bit of the opposite of a roll, isn't he?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616
    dixiedean said:

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I hope not. As long as it works. Proper devolution of power from the centre is the first thing I have heard from Burnham that I can agree with.
    Likely to be beneficial to some places and detrimental to others.

    Especially so if they have increased scope for taxing and borrowing.

    What happens to any places which bankrupt themselves and then ask for a bailout ?
    I'm sure you can think of almost any other developed nation cos they'll be more devolved than us.
    Then look at what they do.
    Its not what others do - and there will be variety there.

    Its what would be done in this country.

    Is Burnham willing to have the 'Burnham to City: Drop Dead' headlines ?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,543
    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,271

    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,723
    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 1,023
    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    About 50 odd Mayors will help
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,153
    Dura_Ace said:

    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
    Only 40Tb?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,642
    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,079


    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    32m
    Just one poll. But there's a trend.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges

    [Grits teeth]

    You need at least two numbers to fit a trend, and at least three to pick the trend with the best fit.
  • The_WoodpeckerThe_Woodpecker Posts: 586
    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    Where?


    Plenty of overlooked places in the south east. Clacton for one. Start there.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,777
    viewcode said:


    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    32m
    Just one poll. But there's a trend.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges

    [Grits teeth]

    You need at least two numbers to fit a trend, and at least three to pick the trend with the best fit.
    Labour lead Reform with Burnham as PM, new poll shows
    However, the edge over Nigel Farage's party is 'wafer-thin' and such boosts 'rarely survive contact with the daily grind of leading', pollster warns

    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-lead-reform-with-burnham-as-pm-new-poll-shows-4500466?utm_campaign=PNIEVq7l5sjekqh&ito=gifted_article&data-target=gifted_article&utm_source=XJPLeh5koSHChZEU

    Gift link so no paywall.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162
    Dura_Ace said:

    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
    External harddrives for me, probably should back those up.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    Where?


    Plenty of overlooked places in the south east. Clacton for one. Start there.
    I believe Clacton is East rather than South East, in regional terms.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162
    RobD said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
    Only 40Tb?
    Remember how small file sizes used to be?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,162
    HYUFD said:



    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
    A dumb take from Sir John - who else but an existing or former PM has had any equivalent experience? If he thinks he lacks the quality to step up just say so, but you coukd substitute the buses comment with any new PMs background.
  • Ally_B1Ally_B1 Posts: 60
    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
    Only 40Tb?
    Remember how small file sizes used to be?
    First hard drive I bought was 60Mb. I thought I would never fill it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,886
    kle4 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
    External harddrives for me, probably should back those up.
    I’ve got everything on a range of small drives from 500GB to 5TB and backed up on a 12TB and 14TB hard drive.

    Not only torrented but my entire DVD collection was ripped to it too.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,691
    Add Belgium to the list of those who hate Scotland.

    I think now mathematically impossible for the Scots?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,541
    Andy_JS said:

    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.

    Could be marginally worse, he could say "norf or sarf"
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,025
    F1: meanwhile in democracy news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/ckg8kz8jpz0o

    Glad F1 isn't a country. It'd be a step away from declaring itself a Democratic Republic.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,237
    edited 5:58AM
    Incredibly, Scotland are not quite out of the World Cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx23rx038w1o

    Come on Austria, Ghana, and er a draw in the other group!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,025

    Incredibly, Scotland are not quite out of the World Cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx23rx038w1o

    Come on Austria, Ghana, and er a draw in the other group!

    I'm not following this football nonsense (although I did see the Americans want it in 2038 again) but why on earth would a result in a different group affect Scotland escaping the group stage? That seems ridiculous.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,400
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:



    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
    A dumb take from Sir John - who else but an existing or former PM has had any equivalent experience? If he thinks he lacks the quality to step up just say so, but you coukd substitute the buses comment with any new PMs background.
    Also a bit rich from a PM whose most memorable policy in office was the Cones Hotline.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,465

    Since the 1980s, Scotland, Wales, the North of England and the Midlands have sacrificed jobs and prosperity whilst London and the South East have become ever richer. It’s time London took a share of the suffering. We never hear of mass redundancies of civil servants and consultants, only engineers, factory workers, steelworkers and other productive trades. Currently its Aberdeen oil and gas engineers whose jobs are being replaced by platitudes. Time for some proper levelling up. Go Andy!

    50% of the UK population live within 100 miles of London.




  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,252
    edited 6:13AM
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,025
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
    If HS2 had started with the Leeds and Manchester sections, I would be very surprised if it had ended up being cancelled.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,746

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
    If HS2 had started with the Leeds and Manchester sections, I would be very surprised if it had ended up being cancelled.
    It would never have started though, because there would have been nowhere for the trains to go.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,410
    So, if Ghana hammer Croatia and Austria hammer Algeria, Scotland can still qualify.

    Stop laughing at the back
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,236

    Incredibly, Scotland are not quite out of the World Cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx23rx038w1o

    Come on Austria, Ghana, and er a draw in the other group!

    I'm not following this football nonsense (although I did see the Americans want it in 2038 again) but why on earth would a result in a different group affect Scotland escaping the group stage? That seems ridiculous.
    Because of the expansion to 48 teams, 8 of 12 3rd places go through to the knock out stages, depending on results.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,025
    Foxy said:

    Incredibly, Scotland are not quite out of the World Cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx23rx038w1o

    Come on Austria, Ghana, and er a draw in the other group!

    I'm not following this football nonsense (although I did see the Americans want it in 2038 again) but why on earth would a result in a different group affect Scotland escaping the group stage? That seems ridiculous.
    Because of the expansion to 48 teams, 8 of 12 3rd places go through to the knock out stages, depending on results.
    Thanks for that concise and useful explanation of a daft system.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,693
    Yesterday 0600 was 22C in my garden; after a day of early cloud and then hot sunshine, the thermometer had risen to 24C by the end of the afternoon; this morning it sits back at 21C at 0700. I have never known such a minimal diurnal variation.
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 1,023
    Those claiming Burnham only talks about North V South or even he's never shared his broader views on a wide range of topics, suggest you dig out his 15 minutes speech to the IFS about 3 months ago

    Or even The Rest Is Politics Leading when he and Andy Street were on together

    Both good and insightful about his mindset and where we're heading
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,471
    edited 6:45AM
    eek said:

    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/

    That's nice, shall we look at Labour donations from those who profit from 'the transition'?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,471

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
    If HS2 had started with the Leeds and Manchester sections, I would be very surprised if it had ended up being cancelled.
    Why would you be surprised?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,693

    The i Paper
    @theipaper
    Tomorrow's front page: The Burnham bounce: Labour leapfrogs Reform with new leader

    https://x.com/theipaper/status/2070626942408126861

    The learning point is not so much about Labour - who so could easily drop back to where they were given an unpopular decision or two - but about the underlying fragility of what has looked like a 'solid' and enduring Reform polling lead. Something else with some novelty value comes along, and a big slice of that Reform support simply evaporates. You could make the same point with the votes Restore pulled in at the by-election.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,886

    eek said:

    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/

    That's nice, shall we look at Labour donations from those who profit from 'the transition'?
    It’s different when the ‘good guys’ do it !!

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jun/07/labour-donor-dale-vince-influence-access-ecotricity-just-stop-oil-sunak-starmer
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,471
    IanB2 said:

    The i Paper
    @theipaper
    Tomorrow's front page: The Burnham bounce: Labour leapfrogs Reform with new leader

    https://x.com/theipaper/status/2070626942408126861

    The learning point is not so much about Labour - who so could easily drop back to where they were given an unpopular decision or two - but about the underlying fragility of what has looked like a 'solid' and enduring Reform polling lead. Something else with some novelty value comes along, and a big slice of that Reform support simply evaporates. You could make the same point with the votes Restore pulled in at the by-election.
    I agree actually. It also goes some way to dispelling the myth that there were/are no direct Labour to Reform switchers, and that Reform's supporters were/are all angry Tories.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,471
    When Sunak took over from Truss, it gave the Tories approximately a 7 point bounce. I would be surprised if Burnham's accession did not do the same for Labour. Whether it lasts is entirely another matter.

    I think a period of not being top dog will be good for Reform. I feel like they've been running on Red Bull and adrenaline for a long time, and the policies and candidates that they have been putting out have not been stellar for a while.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,651
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
    If HS2 had started with the Leeds and Manchester sections, I would be very surprised if it had ended up being cancelled.
    It would never have started though, because there would have been nowhere for the trains to go.
    They would have gone to Birmingham.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,025

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
    If HS2 had started with the Leeds and Manchester sections, I would be very surprised if it had ended up being cancelled.
    Why would you be surprised?
    Because if transport funding is earmarked for London it goes ahead. If it's anywhere else there's a high chance it does not (see the multiple failed attempts to get a tram system for Leeds, which has wasted millions on preliminary work).
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 561

    eek said:

    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/

    That's nice, shall we look at Labour donations from those who profit from 'the transition'?
    Are your accusations of corruption backed by proof or are you a fascist trying to create the low trust environment where the vicious can thrive?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,271
    edited 7:03AM
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:



    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
    A dumb take from Sir John - who else but an existing or former PM has had any equivalent experience? If he thinks he lacks the quality to step up just say so, but you coukd substitute the buses comment with any new PMs background.
    Most new PMs have either held a Great Office of State though ie Chancellor, Home Secretary or Foreign Secretary or won a general election as LOTO. Burnham will become PM having done neither, though he has had some executive experience as Manchester Mayor and was a former Health Secretary.

    Major was making the argument that Burnham should at least face a contest before becoming PM to clarify his policies and how we would approach the world stage too
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,601
    edited 7:08AM

    Incredibly, Scotland are not quite out of the World Cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx23rx038w1o

    Come on Austria, Ghana, and er a draw in the other group!

    I'm not following this football nonsense (although I did see the Americans want it in 2038 again) but why on earth would a result in a different group affect Scotland escaping the group stage? That seems ridiculous.
    The logical structure of the WC is that two competitions are currently going on simultaneously. A competition within each group to come top or second, and a trans group competition, conditional on coming third, between 12 countries, only gradually identified, to come in the top 8 of the 12. Of course, it makes no sense. In football, making no sense is rarely an obstacle.

    The current situation for Scotland is slightly like some FPTP elections, where, for example the Tories might do worse in % than last time when they came second to Labour, but they still win the election because LD and Greens have taken votes off Labour. Football, like politics, is all relative.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,237

    Foxy said:

    Incredibly, Scotland are not quite out of the World Cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx23rx038w1o

    Come on Austria, Ghana, and er a draw in the other group!

    I'm not following this football nonsense (although I did see the Americans want it in 2038 again) but why on earth would a result in a different group affect Scotland escaping the group stage? That seems ridiculous.
    Because of the expansion to 48 teams, 8 of 12 3rd places go through to the knock out stages, depending on results.
    Thanks for that concise and useful explanation of a daft system.
    There were 495 potential combinations of how that daft system could play out apparently, 8 of which are still possible.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:2026_FIFA_World_Cup_third-place_table

    (Who doesn't love Wikipedia, eh?)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,271

    viewcode said:


    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    32m
    Just one poll. But there's a trend.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges

    [Grits teeth]

    You need at least two numbers to fit a trend, and at least three to pick the trend with the best fit.
    Labour lead Reform with Burnham as PM, new poll shows
    However, the edge over Nigel Farage's party is 'wafer-thin' and such boosts 'rarely survive contact with the daily grind of leading', pollster warns

    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-lead-reform-with-burnham-as-pm-new-poll-shows-4500466?utm_campaign=PNIEVq7l5sjekqh&ito=gifted_article&data-target=gifted_article&utm_source=XJPLeh5koSHChZEU

    Gift link so no paywall.
    Those BMG poll numbers would give Burnham Labour most seats with 280 MPs. Reform would have 194, the LDs 76, the Tories 47, the SNP 18 and PC 9 and Greens 8. So most likely a Labour minority government propped up by the LDs

    https://www.nowcast.uk/home/seat-calculator
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,601
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
    Which is why the UK underperforms its potential.
    If HS2 had started with the Leeds and Manchester sections, I would be very surprised if it had ended up being cancelled.
    It would never have started though, because there would have been nowhere for the trains to go.
    This is true of all unbuilt lines until you have built them.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,237
    Stereodog said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:



    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
    A dumb take from Sir John - who else but an existing or former PM has had any equivalent experience? If he thinks he lacks the quality to step up just say so, but you coukd substitute the buses comment with any new PMs background.
    Also a bit rich from a PM whose most memorable policy in office was the Cones Hotline.
    I put a 'like' on that because it's funny, but it is a bit unfair to Major.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,601
    Battlebus said:

    Since the 1980s, Scotland, Wales, the North of England and the Midlands have sacrificed jobs and prosperity whilst London and the South East have become ever richer. It’s time London took a share of the suffering. We never hear of mass redundancies of civil servants and consultants, only engineers, factory workers, steelworkers and other productive trades. Currently its Aberdeen oil and gas engineers whose jobs are being replaced by platitudes. Time for some proper levelling up. Go Andy!

    50% of the UK population live within 100 miles of London.




    According to Wiki, UK population 69m, about 44m of whom don't live within 100 miles of London.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,271
    edited 7:17AM

    Stereodog said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:



    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
    A dumb take from Sir John - who else but an existing or former PM has had any equivalent experience? If he thinks he lacks the quality to step up just say so, but you coukd substitute the buses comment with any new PMs background.
    Also a bit rich from a PM whose most memorable policy in office was the Cones Hotline.
    I put a 'like' on that because it's funny, but it is a bit unfair to Major.
    Yes Major won the Gulf War, left low inflation and unemployment and a growing economy and started the NI peace process and kept the UK out of the single currency while still in the EU
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,237
    algarkirk said:

    Battlebus said:

    Since the 1980s, Scotland, Wales, the North of England and the Midlands have sacrificed jobs and prosperity whilst London and the South East have become ever richer. It’s time London took a share of the suffering. We never hear of mass redundancies of civil servants and consultants, only engineers, factory workers, steelworkers and other productive trades. Currently its Aberdeen oil and gas engineers whose jobs are being replaced by platitudes. Time for some proper levelling up. Go Andy!

    50% of the UK population live within 100 miles of London.




    According to Wiki, UK population 69m, about 44m of whom don't live within 100 miles of London.

    "50% of the UK population live within 100 miles of London"
    or
    "UK population 69m, about 44m of whom don't live within 100 miles of London."

    Lol, which to believe?

    And posted on a thread about misinformation too.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,294
    Battlebus said:

    Since the 1980s, Scotland, Wales, the North of England and the Midlands have sacrificed jobs and prosperity whilst London and the South East have become ever richer. It’s time London took a share of the suffering. We never hear of mass redundancies of civil servants and consultants, only engineers, factory workers, steelworkers and other productive trades. Currently its Aberdeen oil and gas engineers whose jobs are being replaced by platitudes. Time for some proper levelling up. Go Andy!

    50% of the UK population live within 100 miles of London.




    Plus a small percentage of the French population.
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 1,023
    algarkirk said:

    Battlebus said:

    Since the 1980s, Scotland, Wales, the North of England and the Midlands have sacrificed jobs and prosperity whilst London and the South East have become ever richer. It’s time London took a share of the suffering. We never hear of mass redundancies of civil servants and consultants, only engineers, factory workers, steelworkers and other productive trades. Currently its Aberdeen oil and gas engineers whose jobs are being replaced by platitudes. Time for some proper levelling up. Go Andy!

    50% of the UK population live within 100 miles of London.




    According to Wiki, UK population 69m, about 44m of whom don't live within 100 miles of London.

    According to this -> https://centrixia.co.uk/ about 32m people live within 160km of Euston
Sign In or Register to comment.