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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,642
    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Senegal go 2 up. That's probably it for Scotland.

    It's been all over for Scotland since South Korea lost. At that point, -1 goal difference at 3 points was the minimum bar. And even that may end up not making it.
    Yes, the goals given away to Brazil cost Scotland very dear. And the failure to get more against Haiti. Sad, but 1 goal in 3 games doesn't really deserve to go through to be honest.
    Even if Scotland had just gone 1-0 down against Brazil, I think it would probably not have been enough. That would have seen three countries on 3 points, with -1 goal difference: Croatia, South Korea and Scotland. And, I can't see all of them making it through.

    Scotland needed to either (a) manage a point against Morocco (which I felt they deserved); or (b) score more than once against Haiti (which they seemed disinclined to do).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,158

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I'd assume keep it on the basis it is often a hassle to undo, although Labour have gotten around, they say, to abolishing PCCs.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,158

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,285
    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
  • eekeek Posts: 34,244
    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    There are a lot of legal reasons why you could avoid giving Ben any more powers - just insist on audited accounts signed by the auditor
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,543
    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,158
    Andy_JS said:

    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.

    He sounds like a very average Englishman in that case.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,158
    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    Lord Houchem, please.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,690
    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    There be dragons Reform, LibDems and a Tory.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,670

    30 degrees in my living room right now, with the fan on!

    We need an 'unlike' button.
    The heatwave finished here about 6 hours ago. A lovely summer's evening but one which probably requires an extra layer if you're outside.
    Still hot inside, but that's architecture.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,800
    Andy_JS said:

    Have the words "The Midlands" ever crossed Andy Burnham's lips? I'm guessing not. Everything to him is either North or South.

    Makes a nice change then from the successive ones who have been just South.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,815
    The i Paper
    @theipaper
    Tomorrow's front page: The Burnham bounce: Labour leapfrogs Reform with new leader

    https://x.com/theipaper/status/2070626942408126861
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,815

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    32m
    Just one poll. But there's a trend.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616
    eek said:

    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    There are a lot of legal reasons why you could avoid giving Ben any more powers - just insist on audited accounts signed by the auditor
    Given the (lack of) standard of auditing in this country I doubt that would be a problem.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I hope not. As long as it works. Proper devolution of power from the centre is the first thing I have heard from Burnham that I can agree with.
    Likely to be beneficial to some places and detrimental to others.

    Especially so if they have increased scope for taxing and borrowing.

    What happens to any places which bankrupt themselves and then ask for a bailout ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,815

    BBC Newsnight
    @BBCNewsnight
    ·
    20m
    "You're spending something like £65 billion on defence and £360 billion on welfare. Lucky you, you must not feel any danger..."

    Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski on Britain's defence spending.

    https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/2070632151779783161
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,642

    Zia got utterly spanked on Question Time.

    He has some fans.

    https://x.com/archrose90/status/2070592823347347564

    .@ZiaYusufUK is a fantastic orator amongst a typical BBC audience and out of touch MPs.

    The audience member blamed Brexit for all of the country’s problems.

    Zia correctly pointed out that neither Labour nor the Tories have delivered what the British public voted for.
    Well, given that my desires for Brexit were fundamentally diffferent to those of -say- a steel worker from Redcar, that's kind of inevitable, isn't it?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616


    BBC Newsnight
    @BBCNewsnight
    ·
    20m
    "You're spending something like £65 billion on defence and £360 billion on welfare. Lucky you, you must not feel any danger..."

    Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski on Britain's defence spending.

    https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/2070632151779783161

    He has a point but there's no shortage of other countries which are even worse.

    For example:

    While many allies have raised defence spending significantly in light of Russia's war against Ukraine, the Czech Republic spent less ​than 2% of gross domestic product under a previous ​government last year, despite aiming to hit the target.

    Babis's government ⁠cut this year's original defence spending plan to around 1.7-1.8% ​of GDP but Babis had been saying he was looking for ​ways to meet the target. This is no longer the case, he said.

    "Our government will not meet 2% of GDP for defence either," Babis said ​in a post on Facebook. "We have to put public finances in ​order first."

    While cutting defence, Babis's cabinet raised spending to subsidise energy prices and ‌to ⁠fund road building, increasing the overall budget deficit for this year from levels proposed by the previous outgoing government.

    In the face of new security threats and U.S. demands for Europe to bear ​a larger share ​of responsibility for ⁠its defence, NATO has agreed to raise its minimum spending target to 5% of GDP by ​2035, including 3.5% on core military spending.


    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/czech-republic-will-miss-nato-defence-spending-target-again-this-year-pm-babis-2026-06-19/
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,259
    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193
  • eekeek Posts: 34,244

    eek said:

    Dopermean said:

    kle4 said:

    * The south is paying the price for economic failure in the north, Andy Burnham is expected to say next week as he unveils radical plans to devolve powers and money from central government to England’s regions

    * In his first big policy speech since Sir Keir Starmer’s resignation as prime minister, Burnham will set out an economic strategy under which Whitehall budgets will be slashed and money diverted to be spent by regional mayors

    * Burnham will argue that giving mayors new powers and funding to deliver social housing, tackle welfare dependency and run post-16 education will boost economic growth across the country

    * This in return will reduce the dependency of the north and Midlands on tax “handouts” from London and the southeast

    * Burnham will commit himself to spending a significant amount of his expected premiership in a “No10 of the North” to show his commitment to devolution and rebalancing the economy

    * He is also expected to set out plans for a “devolution-first” agenda across Whitehall, under which departments will be expected to assess which areas of their responsibility and funding should be transferred to regional governments

    * It is likely to reduce the size of Whitehall as swathes of roles in departments such as transport, education and work and pensions are devolved

    * The National Office of Statistics calculates that people in London pay £24,400 in tax on average but get back just £19,500 in spending on public services. In the southeast they pay in £17,600 and get £15,900 back. Yet in the northwest they pay £12,700 in taxes and get back £17,300 in public spending. In the northeast it is £11,200 and £17,400 respectively

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2070610431652049215

    All parties talk a big game on devolving power, but it doesn't usually happen, instead being a way of embedding centralised control. It will be interesting if, having been a mayor, Burnham actually believes it and can push through Westminster and Whitehall distaste for local and regional government.

    Good news for the people of Teeside that their redevelopment money will be under the stewardship of Ben T Houchem
    There are a lot of legal reasons why you could avoid giving Ben any more powers - just insist on audited accounts signed by the auditor
    Given the (lack of) standard of auditing in this country I doubt that would be a problem.
    Oh I’m sure there are some local authorities where dodgy accounts have been signed off.

    My point is the Ben’s accounts have never been signed off due to problems so if the plan is to not delegate things to him there are ways of doing so
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,101
    rcs1000 said:

    Zia got utterly spanked on Question Time.

    He has some fans.

    https://x.com/archrose90/status/2070592823347347564

    .@ZiaYusufUK is a fantastic orator amongst a typical BBC audience and out of touch MPs.

    The audience member blamed Brexit for all of the country’s problems.

    Zia correctly pointed out that neither Labour nor the Tories have delivered what the British public voted for.
    Well, given that my desires for Brexit were fundamentally diffferent to those of -say- a steel worker from Redcar, that's kind of inevitable, isn't it?
    Nonsense. There was one true brexit vision. We keep it in a black-satin lined box that no light can escape or enter. Though we can condemn and cast out unbelievers.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,244
    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,800

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I hope not. As long as it works. Proper devolution of power from the centre is the first thing I have heard from Burnham that I can agree with.
    Likely to be beneficial to some places and detrimental to others.

    Especially so if they have increased scope for taxing and borrowing.

    What happens to any places which bankrupt themselves and then ask for a bailout ?
    I'm sure you can think of almost any other developed nation cos they'll be more devolved than us.
    Then look at what they do.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,800
    edited June 26
    eek said:

    If anyone wanted to know why Reform are so anti green projects and Net zero someone has found £24million reasons why https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/30/reform-uk-nigel-farage-millions-donations-fossil-fuel-interests-climate-science-deniers/

    Farage Riots 2025.
    Farage heatwave 2026.
    The guys on a bit of the opposite of a roll, isn't he?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,616
    dixiedean said:

    Assuming that Burnham gets massive devolution passed before the next election, do the Tories and Reform campaign to reverse it, or would it be here to stay and they accept it's too difficult to undo and policitally unpopular to take power from the regions and send it to Whitehall ?

    I hope not. As long as it works. Proper devolution of power from the centre is the first thing I have heard from Burnham that I can agree with.
    Likely to be beneficial to some places and detrimental to others.

    Especially so if they have increased scope for taxing and borrowing.

    What happens to any places which bankrupt themselves and then ask for a bailout ?
    I'm sure you can think of almost any other developed nation cos they'll be more devolved than us.
    Then look at what they do.
    Its not what others do - and there will be variety there.

    Its what would be done in this country.

    Is Burnham willing to have the 'Burnham to City: Drop Dead' headlines ?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,543
    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,268

    John Major can’t pronounce Makerfield

    https://x.com/independent/status/2070582940237447193

    'Sir John Major throws shade on the new prime minister in waiting. "Mr Burnham has had great success, I'm told, with buses," he says. "A little different from dealing with Xi, Putin, Trump, Macron, Merz."
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,723
    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 1,021
    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    About 50 odd Mayors will help
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,153
    Dura_Ace said:

    CatMan said:

    Why physical media is important

    https://kotaku.com/playstation-store-movies-digital-studio-canal-terminator-2000711013

    PlayStation Is Deleting 551 Movies From Customers’ Accounts, Reminding Us Nothing Digital Is Ever Truly Ours

    I have everything I have ever torrented (40Tb+) for almost 20 years on a server. This is the way.
    Only 40Tb?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,642
    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Is Mr Burnham likely to be aware that England has a South West?

    In an academic sense.

    The South West, the ignored lesser child of the South.
    We've got to get away from this ridiculous idea that there are only two areas that matter, ie. the south and the north.
    Exactly.

    There is only London.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,079


    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    32m
    Just one poll. But there's a trend.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges

    [Grits teeth]

    You need at least two numbers to fit a trend, and at least three to pick the trend with the best fit.
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