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I take it Populus must be in your blind spot.Ishmael_X said:
1. Con LeadGIN1138 said:
1. Con LeadTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
2. Lab Lead
1. Tie
It's still neck and neck basically isn't it?
#megapollingmonday
2. Tie
If you discount the comedy pollster. Surely everyone was laughing at Ashcroft even before the Great Retraction?0 -
Troughing MPs should be playing by the same rules as those they claim to represent.FrancisUrquhart said:Ed Balls and 11 other members of the shadow cabinet claimed expenses for cleaning, gardening or odd jobs without submitting receipts,
Mr Balls claimed £1,610 for cleaners and his wife Yvette Cooper claimed £2,640 for cleaning and gardening, out of a total of £37,881 claimed by the 12 Labour MPs.
...A spokesman for Mr Balls on Monday defended his cleaning claims, saying: “Ed’s cleaner was and continues to be employed on PAYE and paid by bank transfer. These claims were made fully in accordance with the Fees Office rules.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11416788/Ed-Balls-among-12-shadow-cabinet-members-who-claimed-expenses-without-receipts.html
Story or not, this is from 2006....I think more interesting is Eddie's and Yvette expenses that only got a very cursory glance from a friendly journo 5 years ago.
No paper proof. No payment.
The Cooper Balls house flipping shenanigans warrant a very special and in-depth investigation.0 -
Even if they hadn't lost a wicket, Scotland are only on course for 130-140.0
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With ICM he is already there.Casino_Royale said:
I assume Cameron has a strategy to win over a third of those Kippers over the next 90 days to get the votes he needs to see him over the line.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
I'm wondering with the shenanigans in the Hellenic part of the world, the EU will ask the UK to contribute to a bail out.
Which Cameron will veto, so we get Vetogasm II.
We all remembered what happened with the polling during Vetogasm.0 -
Weren't Cooper Balls expenses some of the highest possible "under the rules at the time" ??0
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Only 0.75%TheScreamingEagles said:So averaging today's polls, the Tories are ahead.
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An apt resolution for the Channel 4 issue would be to sell them to News International for a reasonable price!0
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Flightpath yes, when I was at Warwick I used to use the rifle range just by the Jaguar Factory, the university is in the suburban outskirts of Coventry on the way to Leamington0
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If you discount the Good Lord Amen that leaves us with:Ishmael_X said:
1. Con LeadGIN1138 said:
1. Con LeadTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
2. Lab Lead
1. Tie
It's still neck and neck basically isn't it?
#megapollingmonday
2. Tie
If you discount the comedy pollster. Surely everyone was laughing at Ashcroft even before the Great Retraction?
1. Lab Lead
1. Con Lead
1. Tie
So still looks neck and neck...0 -
I wonder how Gordo's cleaner is getting on these days. At the rate they were being paid for seemingly doing very little, probably retired to the Algarve living in a mega mansion, having other people do the cleaning for them. Nobody has ever seen them though, the locals call them "sr e sra invisível"0
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Lord Ashcroft the outlier.
The other pollsters aren't whining at the coverage of other pollsters.
Great Sun front cover.0 -
Sun front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9__HfDIEAA62oD.jpg0
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Irony not your strongpoint?bigjohnowls said:
Really that would be very silly.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
My view is LARGER will be the least accurate polls (Angus Reed of 2015) and are pretty worthless.0 -
That is a pity for Labour, as his marginal polls are the ones that give Labour most hope (in part by LibDem surviving against Tory and Labour outperforming UNS in Tory Labour marginals).bigjohnowls said:
Really that would be very silly.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
My view is LARGER will be the least accurate polls (Angus Reed of 2015) and are pretty worthless.0 -
Better teams than Scotland might be 22/4 here - late swing and a top quality new-ball attack.Dair said:Even if they hadn't lost a wicket, Scotland are only on course for 130-140.
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What is really pathetic is that speech was billed as demonstrating that Labour was not anti business and all he can come up with is more government interference, regulation and cost. Not since Michael Foot has Labour seemed so utterly indifferent as to how this country makes its money.Flightpath said:
What is really pathetic is thatFrancisUrquhart said:
I am sure Labour have thought all this through fully and it wasn't written on the back of a fag packet like todays announcements.Cyclefree said:
I answered this on a previous thread. Most bonuses above a certain level are paid in shares which don't vest i.e. belong to the employee for a period. At any point during that period, if the employee leaves or misbehaves those shares can be forfeited. In theory you could make the period 10 years. Though, usually, vesting is on a rolling basis e.g. if over 5 years you get 20% in year 1, the next 20% in year 2 and so on.Grandiose said:
snip.FrancisUrquhart said:
snipJonnyJimmy said:Wow... I didn't realise that the bankers' bonus tax was a one off, that Balls has now announced that they'll repeat just once.
How much are they planning to tax them to pay for all this stuff in just two years? How much is paid to bankers in bonuses each year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KeIvRNsARs
I am kinda of skeptical full stop how effective anything like that is. High net worth criminals already do it on a massive scale and the whole proceeds of crime act really only manages to get money back of morons.
Of course if the bonus doesn't get paid it can't be taxed so that's your bonus tax fecked right there.
I had to laugh at Miliband giving the massive build up, we are going to totally change the whole economy, completely revamp the relationship of business and the employee, and here is the grand plan....Actually listening to the build up, I thought he was going to go nuclear and propose something major like maximum wages, x% of board must be front line workers, x% of profits must go to the workers in a mutual fund etc...nope some more apprenticeships...maybe...
1 --- the Tories have a perfectly acceptable policy which is increasing apprenticeships and
2 --- Miliband was speaking at Jaguar Land Rover which has a long association with Warwick University (which is in Coventry I think!) and has IIRC just announced it was funding a new set of university engineering places, all without Mr Miliband's help.
http://www.jaguarlandrover.com/gl/en/responsible-business/social-responsibility/advancing-knowledge/partnerships-with-universities/0 -
Yes, Mauritius - seeCyclefree said:
Have you been anywhere interesting?
(Edited: sorry if it's private do tell me to mind my own business. But you often seem to travel to interesting places for work hence my question.)
http://www.lemauricien.com/article/macaques-exportation-danimaux-equipe-la-buav-rencontre-ministre-dayal
- they are a major primate exporter for this sort of thing
http://www.buav.org/undercover-investigations/a-living-nightmare
and have just changed government, so I went over to meet the new ministers and see if we could get them to curb the trade. They are open to a dialogue.
The island is interesting - certainly very beautiful and fabulously clear, unpolluted skies. The people were very friendly, if low-key (young people seemed to reckon a good night out is to stand around chatting in a shopping mall, then go home to dinner with their parents), and the island seems largely trilingual (English, French, Creole). On the downside it's clearly still pretty poor - some shiny new skyscrapers but lots of shantytown housing, and a lot of nervousness about the future when their deal to sell sugar at favourable rates to the EU runs out in 2017. It has a high rating for honesty (though the former PM is under investigation for alleged corruption) and business-friendliness, and recently had peaceful elections with a smooth change of party in power.
Francis U - thanks for the apology. No problem, easily done.
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Yup, that's where we are, neck and neck between them.GIN1138 said:
If you discount the Good Lord Amen that leaves us with:Ishmael_X said:
1. Con LeadGIN1138 said:
1. Con LeadTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
2. Lab Lead
1. Tie
It's still neck and neck basically isn't it?
#megapollingmonday
2. Tie
If you discount the comedy pollster. Surely everyone was laughing at Ashcroft even before the Great Retraction?
1. Lab Lead
1. Con Lead
1. Tie
So still looks neck and neck...
There's probably only two things that can alter the VI between now and May 7th.
The budget and the campaign.
The largest and sustained change in voting was the 2012 Budget.0 -
Ironing is my strongpointnigel4england said:
Irony not your strongpoint?bigjohnowls said:
Really that would be very silly.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
My view is LARGER will be the least accurate polls (Angus Reed of 2015) and are pretty worthless.0 -
The Telegraph gave Balls a soft ride? No surprise there.FrancisUrquhart said:Ed Balls and 11 other members of the shadow cabinet claimed expenses for cleaning, gardening or odd jobs without submitting receipts,
...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11416788/Ed-Balls-among-12-shadow-cabinet-members-who-claimed-expenses-without-receipts.html
Story or not, this is from 2006....I think more interesting is Eddie's and Yvette expenses that only got a very cursory glance from a friendly journo 5 years ago.0 -
I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
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I hear that his advisors wanted him to do a photo op with a mobile sandwich van outside, but they didn't give receipts and left rather sharpishly when he started to lecture them on how they were probably a tax dodger. :-)DavidL said:
What is really pathetic is that speech was billed as demonstrating that Labour was not anti business and all he can come up with is more government interference, regulation and cost. Not since Michael Foot has Labour seemed so utterly indifferent as to how this country makes its money.0 -
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
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Lord Ashcroft's polling is very, very highly regarded by the powers that be at PB.com, evidenced by the fact that the findings receive more coverage and analysis than those of any other pollster.Ishmael_X said:
1. Con LeadGIN1138 said:
1. Con LeadTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
2. Lab Lead
1. Tie
It's still neck and neck basically isn't it?
#megapollingmonday
2. Tie
If you discount the comedy pollster. Surely everyone was laughing at Ashcroft even before the Great Retraction?0 -
Out of interest Nick was the trip self funded?NickPalmer said:
Yes, Mauritius - seeCyclefree said:
Have you been anywhere interesting?
(Edited: sorry if it's private do tell me to mind my own business. But you often seem to travel to interesting places for work hence my question.)
http://www.lemauricien.com/article/macaques-exportation-danimaux-equipe-la-buav-rencontre-ministre-dayal
- they are a major primate exporter for this sort of thing
http://www.buav.org/undercover-investigations/a-living-nightmare
and have just changed government, so I went over to meet the new ministers and see if we could get them to curb the trade. They are open to a dialogue.
The island is interesting - certainly very beautiful and fabulously clear, unpolluted skies. The people were very friendly, if low-key (young people seemed to reckon a good night out is to stand around chatting in a shopping mall, then go home to dinner with their parents), and the island seems largely trilingual (English, French, Creole). On the downside it's clearly still pretty poor - some shiny new skyscrapers but lots of shantytown housing, and a lot of nervousness about the future when their deal to sell sugar at favourable rates to the EU runs out in 2017. It has a high rating for honesty (though the former PM is under investigation for alleged corruption) and business-friendliness, and recently had peaceful elections with a smooth change of party in power.
Francis U - thanks for the apology. No problem, easily done.0 -
That is amusing. But is it a tad too juvenile?Tissue_Price said:Sun front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9__HfDIEAA62oD.jpg
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More on Hillary's chances in 2016. A good read for any political modeling junkie, and for those of you who are betting:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/predictive-intelligence-201502130 -
Remember when all the bad publicity wouldn't hurt UKIPs polling ?DaemonBarber said:
That is amusing. But is it a tad too juvenile?Tissue_Price said:Sun front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9__HfDIEAA62oD.jpg
Give it a month for this to start grinding Ed down.0 -
Doesn't mean it's any good though?peter_from_putney said:
Lord Ashcroft's polling is very, very highly regarded by the powers that be at PB.com, evidenced by the fact that the findings receive more coverage and analysis than those of any other pollster.Ishmael_X said:
1. Con LeadGIN1138 said:
1. Con LeadTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
2. Lab Lead
1. Tie
It's still neck and neck basically isn't it?
#megapollingmonday
2. Tie
If you discount the comedy pollster. Surely everyone was laughing at Ashcroft even before the Great Retraction?
PB was quite closely associated with Angus Reid back in the day, as I'm sure you remember...
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The Sun says that ICM has Con 6% ahead of Lab.
But I thought ICM was 36/32?
Any explanation?0 -
No Tissue allowed?Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
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Nah,it will be a disaster for Ed.DaemonBarber said:
That is amusing. But is it a tad too juvenile?Tissue_Price said:Sun front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9__HfDIEAA62oD.jpg
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All that matters is eve of poll. If Labour are behind in those, it won't matter how often they were ahead in the past.compouter2 said:
Luckily I'm not one of the frothing ones so I am looking at 21 out of the last 28 showing Labour in the lead.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
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Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.0 -
Well done to (ancien) Nick and his work to protect animals.0
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Oh I'm sure it will, but isn't pity a better play than mockery? Still, time for that later I guess.TGOHF said:
Remember when all the bad publicity wouldn't hurt UKIPs polling ?DaemonBarber said:
That is amusing. But is it a tad too juvenile?Tissue_Price said:Sun front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9__HfDIEAA62oD.jpg
Give it a month for this to start grinding Ed down.
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You're sure it wasn't a whelk stall?FrancisUrquhart said:
I hear that his advisors wanted him to do a photo op with a mobile sandwich van outside, but they didn't give receipts and left rather sharpishly when he started to lecture them on how they were probably a tax dodger. :-)DavidL said:
What is really pathetic is that speech was billed as demonstrating that Labour was not anti business and all he can come up with is more government interference, regulation and cost. Not since Michael Foot has Labour seemed so utterly indifferent as to how this country makes its money.0 -
Tut, Tut, Tut the people Channel 4 mix with:
Director of UKIP Smear ‘Mockumentary’ In Court For Tax Fraud
The director of a controversial spoof documentary on Nigel Farage and UKIP will be appearing in Southwark Crown Court on Friday of this week, charged with cheating the public revenue.
Chris Atkins, a journalist and film-maker who gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry, is accused of perpetrating a £2.5 million tax fraud plot along with twelve others. The Crown Prosecution Service say he was involved in a complex five-year scam to cheat the taxman, including seven investment bankers, the Ham and High reported at the time.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/16/exclusive-director-of-ukip-smear-mockumentary-in-court-for-tax-fraud/
I trust Ed Miliband will be very very angry about this!0 -
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.0 -
TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first0
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Perhaps but there are fundamental problems with Scottish cricket. It has gone backwards since independence in 1992. The contrast with Ireland, which as far as I understand has had a lot less investment, is quite marked.Tissue_Price said:
Better teams than Scotland might be 22/4 here - late swing and a top quality new-ball attack.Dair said:Even if they hadn't lost a wicket, Scotland are only on course for 130-140.
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The default assumption is that Conservatives are rich and sleezy albeit good at making money whilst Labour are poor but honest albeit crap at making money.MaxPB said:
It honestly doesn't look like they Tories have been hurt at all by it, they have remained on about 31-33, it's Labour who have taken all of the damage.Sean_F said:
And suggests that Labour may possibly have been hurt as much by the row over tax avoidance as the Tories. The public don't consider that either party has clean hands.TheScreamingEagles said:So averaging today's polls, the Tories are ahead.
So things that have negative effects are the Conservatives being shown to be crap at making money and Labour being shown to be rich and sleezy.
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@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.0
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ScooptasticTGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Which is why this government should have brought in a maximum earnings limit for the public sector.another_richard said:
The default assumption is that Conservatives are rich and sleezy albeit good at making money whilst Labour are poor but honest albeit crap at making money.MaxPB said:
It honestly doesn't look like they Tories have been hurt at all by it, they have remained on about 31-33, it's Labour who have taken all of the damage.Sean_F said:
And suggests that Labour may possibly have been hurt as much by the row over tax avoidance as the Tories. The public don't consider that either party has clean hands.TheScreamingEagles said:So averaging today's polls, the Tories are ahead.
So things that have negative effects are the Conservatives being shown to be crap at making money and Labour being shown to be rich and sleezy.
Having Labour support public sector fatcats would have been damaging for its image.
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We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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?HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/christie-faces-growing-doubts-within-gop-about-his-2016-campaign-n305406
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/atlantic-city-meltdown-chris-christie-115204.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/poll-chris-christie-approval-ratings-115173.html
Not to mention polls which show Christie doing badly in all early states and nationwide.
Currently there is a much much larger chance of Christie ending in jail than getting the GOP nomination.
As for Hillary, it's either a landslide victory for her like 1996 or 1988, no one is going to beat her next year.0 -
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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To be honest, he could do worse than use his super-duper voter software to find out the UKIP defectors, and groups of voters that might have defected from Conservative to UKIP and personally email them - or better still, write a letter:TheScreamingEagles said:
With ICM he is already there.Casino_Royale said:
I assume Cameron has a strategy to win over a third of those Kippers over the next 90 days to get the votes he needs to see him over the line.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
I'm wondering with the shenanigans in the Hellenic part of the world, the EU will ask the UK to contribute to a bail out.
Which Cameron will veto, so we get Vetogasm II.
We all remembered what happened with the polling during Vetogasm.
"Dear <<UKIP supporter>>, I understand that you might have felt let down by me as your Prime Minister over the last 5 years. I also recognise that perhaps you might not always feel like you've been treated with respect you deserve by myself, or members of my team, at times.
If that is so, let me start with an apology: I'm sorry. I recognise that we haven't always got it right. I also realise that you might once have been a loyal Conservative supporter, who supported the party through thick and thin. If that is so, I'd like to appeal to you today and ask if you'd please consider giving me 3 minutes of your time. Because I think a re-elected Conservative government would have a lot to offer you.
> Immigration (explain progress, apologise for cap not being reached, explain additional measures and explain how Tory government will still fight for more)
> Europe (set out red-lines and concrete proposals for renegotiation
> Defence (maintain 2% GDP NATO target)
> Family (expand on further support in tax system during next parliament)
> English votes for English laws (explain initiatives and make pledges)
> Fighting for Conservative values (go for the heart; explain how a Conservative PM will fight for Conservative principles and lead the public debate)
>Contrast all above policies with labour. Explain what will *not* be negotiated away in a coalition, this time.
>End the letter respectfully, do not ask for money or donations.
Yours Sincerely,
David Cameron"
Keep up the civil and cordial contact until election day. And beyond.
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Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.0 -
The mirror a few years ago went through Cameron's bins.compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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You mean all the things we were told would happen if the UK left the ERM ?Dair said:
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
And all those things we were told would happen if the UK didn't join the Euro ?
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Damn the leftards.TheScreamingEagles said:
The mirror a few years ago went through Cameron's bins.compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Didn't save it for me... Terrible film. Possibly the worst film ever and certainly worst film to have won Oscars IMO.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.0 -
Probably in The Mirror.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
As Top Phone Hackers, they're likely to be the best at Bin Foraging too.0 -
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Is leftard another word for 'scumbag journalist'?compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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No - it's my job for a global NGO, and we're funded by donations from people who like animals. I've been in about 20 countries over the last few years, talking to Ministers and companies to try to whittle away animal testing - the EU ban on testing cosmetics with painful experiments on rabbits in 2013 was partly our doing, as is the forthcoming legislation in Brazil. We're expected to be restrained in spending (travel tourist class, stay in cheapish hotels, etc.) but I couldn't afford to do it self-funded.nigel4england said:
Out of interest Nick was the trip self funded?
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Journo to MP: "Where's ya bin?".
MP to journo: "I've bin to the House of Commons."
Journo: "No. where's ya wheely Bin?"
MP: "I've wheely bin to the House of Commons".0 -
Leftward? Is that like forward, but with left leanings?TheWatcher said:
Is leftard another word for 'scumbag journalist'?compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
Leftard. Is that a portmanteau of lefty and bastard or something else? Seems too close to retard to be acceptable IMOcompouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Amazing blend of Africa, Asia, France and England.NickPalmer said:Mauritius
You can feel like you're in the Caribbean, then like you're in Kent, in the space of an hour.0 -
It is actually what some people on here have called left wing posters.DaemonBarber said:compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
Leftard. Is that a portmanteau of lefty and bastard or something else? Seems too close to retard to be acceptable IMOcompouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Ed Balls window cleaner will stay stchum. He won't want Ed Miliband trawling over his books to see if he saved a few quid ahem...(avoided tax)0
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Who? I only ask as I've only seen you use it.compouter2 said:
It is actually what some people on here have called left wing posters.DaemonBarber said:compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
Leftard. Is that a portmanteau of lefty and bastard or something else? Seems too close to retard to be acceptable IMOcompouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Flying to 20 countries! What about the polar bears?NickPalmer said:
No - it's my job for a global NGO, and we're funded by donations from people who like animals. I've been in about 20 countries over the last few years, talking to Ministers and companies to try to whittle away animal testing - the EU ban on testing cosmetics with painful experiments on rabbits in 2013 was partly our doing, as is the forthcoming legislation in Brazil. We're expected to be restrained in spending (travel tourist class, stay in cheapish hotels, etc.) but I couldn't afford to do it self-funded.nigel4england said:
Out of interest Nick was the trip self funded?
Just teasing, I actually, genuinely, appreciate the work you do for animal welfare.0 -
The US is so evenly divided along partisan lines now, that I doubt if anyone will get a landslide, save in exceptional circumstances.Speedy said:
?HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/christie-faces-growing-doubts-within-gop-about-his-2016-campaign-n305406
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/atlantic-city-meltdown-chris-christie-115204.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/poll-chris-christie-approval-ratings-115173.html
Not to mention polls which show Christie doing badly in all early states and nationwide.
Currently there is a much much larger chance of Christie ending in jail than getting the GOP nomination.
As for Hillary, it's either a landslide victory for her like 1996 or 1988, no one is going to beat her next year.0 -
Those 21 though are just SO last year....compouter2 said:
Luckily I'm not one of the frothing ones so I am looking at 21 out of the last 28 showing Labour in the lead.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
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It's a bit like 'Hodges'. No one else ever bothers referring to him.DaemonBarber said:
Who? I only ask as I've only seen you use it.compouter2 said:
It is actually what some people on here have called left wing posters.DaemonBarber said:compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
Leftard. Is that a portmanteau of lefty and bastard or something else? Seems too close to retard to be acceptable IMOcompouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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Thought so. Those PB Tories and Hodges eh? What cards... Real characters.TheWatcher said:
It's a bit like 'Hodges'. No one else ever bothers referring to him.DaemonBarber said:
Who? I only ask as I've only seen you use it.compouter2 said:
It is actually what some people on here have called left wing posters.DaemonBarber said:compouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
Leftard. Is that a portmanteau of lefty and bastard or something else? Seems too close to retard to be acceptable IMOcompouter2 said:
Damn the leftards again.TheWatcher said:
Probably in The Mirror. As Top Phone Hackers, they're probably the best at bin hunting too.compouter2 said:
Of course they do, but they will be showing you pictures of them doing it soon.DaemonBarber said:
You think journos don't rake through bins now?compouter2 said:
We are not far off journos rooting through MP's bins. The tit for tat amongst the papers will be something to behold.TGOHF said:@petercardwell: The Mail has an exclusive interview with @edballsmp and @YvetteCooperMP's window cleaner on page 6 tomorrow.
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@ HYUFD: Think the Christie bubble has well and truly burst (thoughts of Mr Creosote - need mental bleach). As I said upthread, I think there will effectively be a two-tiered GOP primary: Bush vs Rubio followed by winner vs Walker.HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
@ Speedy "no one is going to beat her next year". I admire your confidence. She may win (I don't think she will), but it will not be a landslide.0 -
Good idea, I need some more paper for the fire!Casino_Royale said:
To be honest, he could do worse than use his super-duper voter software to find out the UKIP defectors, and groups of voters that might have defected from Conservative to UKIP and personally email them - or better still, write a letter:TheScreamingEagles said:
With ICM he is already there.Casino_Royale said:
I assume Cameron has a strategy to win over a third of those Kippers over the next 90 days to get the votes he needs to see him over the line.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour and Tories tied: CON 32%, LAB 32%, LD 6%, UKIP 16%, GRN 8%
I'm wondering with the shenanigans in the Hellenic part of the world, the EU will ask the UK to contribute to a bail out.
Which Cameron will veto, so we get Vetogasm II.
We all remembered what happened with the polling during Vetogasm.
"Dear <<UKIP supporter>>, I understand that you might have felt let down by me as your Prime Minister over the last 5 years. I also recognise that perhaps you might not always feel like you've been treated with respect you deserve by myself, or members of my team, at times.
If that is so, let me start with an apology: I'm sorry. I recognise that we haven't always got it right. I also realise that you might once have been a loyal Conservative supporter, who supported the party through thick and thin. If that is so, I'd like to appeal to you today and ask if you'd please consider giving me 3 minutes of your time. Because I think a re-elected Conservative government would have a lot to offer you.
> Immigration (explain progress, apologise for cap not being reached, explain additional measures and explain how Tory government will still fight for more)
> Europe (set out red-lines and concrete proposals for renegotiation
> Defence (maintain 2% GDP NATO target)
> Family (expand on further support in tax system during next parliament)
> English votes for English laws (explain initiatives and make pledges)
> Fighting for Conservative values (go for the heart; explain how a Conservative PM will fight for Conservative principles and lead the public debate)
>Contrast all above policies with labour. Explain what will *not* be negotiated away in a coalition, this time.
>End the letter respectfully, do not ask for money or donations.
Yours Sincerely,
David Cameron"
Keep up the civil and cordial contact until election day. And beyond.0 -
mixed up with Con increase of 6%?MikeL said:The Sun says that ICM has Con 6% ahead of Lab.
But I thought ICM was 36/32?
Any explanation?0 -
Interesting times.MTimT said:
@ HYUFD: Think the Christie bubble has well and truly burst (thoughts of Mr Creosote - need mental bleach). As I said upthread, I think there will effectively be a two-tiered GOP primary: Bush vs Rubio followed by winner vs Walker.HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
@ Speedy "no one is going to beat her next year". I admire your confidence. She may win (I don't think she will), but it will not be a landslide.
Who will deal with a post Putin Russia. Assume he get cancer or is under a bus. Whatever follows is likely to be worse.
How will USA cope with Russia and China working in harmony to rid the globe of the Americanisation that they resent from the last 60 years?0 -
SO this month and last month actually.MarqueeMark said:
Those 21 though are just SO last year....compouter2 said:
Luckily I'm not one of the frothing ones so I am looking at 21 out of the last 28 showing Labour in the lead.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
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I'm pretty sure he said previously it was related to his day job; not being an mp he has to work for a living like anyone elsenigel4england said:
Out of interest Nick was the trip self funded?0 -
Snap!Sean_F said:
The US is so evenly divided along partisan lines now, that I doubt if anyone will get a landslide, save in exceptional circumstances.Speedy said:
?HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/christie-faces-growing-doubts-within-gop-about-his-2016-campaign-n305406
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/atlantic-city-meltdown-chris-christie-115204.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/poll-chris-christie-approval-ratings-115173.html
Not to mention polls which show Christie doing badly in all early states and nationwide.
Currently there is a much much larger chance of Christie ending in jail than getting the GOP nomination.
As for Hillary, it's either a landslide victory for her like 1996 or 1988, no one is going to beat her next year.0 -
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fifty_shades_of_grey/TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.0 -
Speedy SeanF Wrong on both counts. Jeb Bush in the end won't run as he will not be certain of beating Hillary and he will not want to damage the brand for his son George P, the Bushes real presidential hopeful, leaving the way clear for Christie to be the establishment choice and win New Hampshire.
In the general election after 8 years of the Democrats it will be no landslide, and Obama is no Reagan for Clinton to latch onto as Bush Snr did in 1988. Nixon saw his poll lead gradually eroded in 1968 until polling day, indeed reporters quipped that if there had been another week Humphrey would have won, to which Nixon responded 'I knew when the election was!'
Like 1968 which saw Wallace running and getting a significant voteshare, 2016 is ripe for a third party candidate, maybe Trump as well as a Green candidate to Hillary's left, Sanders?0 -
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And about 20 of them were statistical ties......MarqueeMark said:
Those 21 though are just SO last year....compouter2 said:
Luckily I'm not one of the frothing ones so I am looking at 21 out of the last 28 showing Labour in the lead.nigel4england said:
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.Roger said:I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
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They won't be able to afford as many criminal convictions as they had in this parliament.bigjohnowls said:Lab most seats lead narrows with these
http://electionforecast.co.uk/0 -
"Those 21 though are just SO last year...."
....Do you remember that ICM poll in 2014 or was it '15. The one that had the Tories on 37 or was it 36....I think it was 37 and Labour were trailing on 31? ..... I remember it like yesterday. Dave or was it George Cameron was leader and it looked like he was going to win. ICM was the Gold Standard then you know. Unravelled pretty fast after that but it was a glorious few days. Heads held high chests out...we talked about little else right up to the election three months later..........Sorry where did I leave my slippers0 -
And about 20 of them were statistical ties.....
That would all result in EICIPM0 -
Amazing island off the coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean; former French Colony captured by the British.chestnut said:
Amazing blend of Africa, Asia, France and England.NickPalmer said:Mauritius
You can feel like you're in the Caribbean, then like you're in Kent, in the space of an hour.
:-)0 -
Yes, what a good description. Singapore is a bit like that too, I thought - partly very much in Asia, partly in a time warp of England ca. 1955.chestnut said:
Amazing blend of Africa, Asia, France and England.NickPalmer said:Mauritius
You can feel like you're in the Caribbean, then like you're in Kent, in the space of an hour.
Thanks, Sadddened. I think I got the job back in 2011 partly because animal welfare people are seen to be a bit fringey, and a former MP and pharma executive is mainstream (dull) enough for the most nervous Minister or CEO to be willing to meet. When I was an MP I spent a year chairing a working group between the BUAV, RSPCA and ABPI (pharma industry): we agreed on about 20 points where the animal side felt there could be genuine reductions in suffering and the industry side felt they were only doing the experiments because of outdated legislation. As at that stage nobody had thought about my working for them and I didn't make a public fuss to get votes, the BUAV put it down to my being genuinely interested, and when I was job-hunting that weighed with them too.
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Braveheart was the worst film ever to win the Oscars.DaemonBarber said:
Didn't save it for me... Terrible film. Possibly the worst film ever and certainly worst film to have won Oscars IMO.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.
So historically inaccurate.
That said, people at the time, Mel Gibson was the wrong person to play a Scot, but look at him now, an alcoholic racist, he's the perfect person to play a Scot.0 -
On behalf of absent friends I have to sayTheScreamingEagles said:
Braveheart was the worst film ever to win the Oscars.DaemonBarber said:
Didn't save it for me... Terrible film. Possibly the worst film ever and certainly worst film to have won Oscars IMO.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.
So historically inaccurate.
That said, people at the time, Mel Gibson was the wrong person to play a Scot, but look at him now, an alcoholic racist, he's the perfect person to play a Scot.
"Turnip"0 -
The only saving grace is that it is nigh on impossible to think of China and Russia working in harmony and they will be very unequal partners if they do. China's interests are so different from Putin's now. I only see China picking and choosing moments of cooperation when it suits it, and usually to Russia's disadvantage.philiph said:
Interesting times.MTimT said:
@ HYUFD: Think the Christie bubble has well and truly burst (thoughts of Mr Creosote - need mental bleach). As I said upthread, I think there will effectively be a two-tiered GOP primary: Bush vs Rubio followed by winner vs Walker.HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
@ Speedy "no one is going to beat her next year". I admire your confidence. She may win (I don't think she will), but it will not be a landslide.
Who will deal with a post Putin Russia. Assume he get cancer or is under a bus. Whatever follows is likely to be worse.
How will USA cope with Russia and China working in harmony to rid the globe of the Americanisation that they resent from the last 60 years?0 -
"Worst" as in absurd. But, it was a hugely entertaining film.TheScreamingEagles said:
Braveheart was the worst film ever to win the Oscars.DaemonBarber said:
Didn't save it for me... Terrible film. Possibly the worst film ever and certainly worst film to have won Oscars IMO.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.
So historically inaccurate.
That said, people at the time, Mel Gibson was the wrong person to play a Scot, but look at him now, an alcoholic racist, he's the perfect person to play a Scot.
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What was the response of China in the UN to Russia entering Ukraine? For the first time, no condemnation.MTimT said:
The only saving grace is that it is nigh on impossible to think of China and Russia working in harmony and they will be very unequal partners if they do. China's interests are so different from Putin's now. I only see China picking and choosing moments of cooperation when it suits it, and usually to Russia's disadvantage.philiph said:
Interesting times.MTimT said:
@ HYUFD: Think the Christie bubble has well and truly burst (thoughts of Mr Creosote - need mental bleach). As I said upthread, I think there will effectively be a two-tiered GOP primary: Bush vs Rubio followed by winner vs Walker.HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
@ Speedy "no one is going to beat her next year". I admire your confidence. She may win (I don't think she will), but it will not be a landslide.
Who will deal with a post Putin Russia. Assume he get cancer or is under a bus. Whatever follows is likely to be worse.
How will USA cope with Russia and China working in harmony to rid the globe of the Americanisation that they resent from the last 60 years?
They have a galvanising common goal and will work together to achieve it.0 -
TimT Disagree, think it will end up Christie v Paul and Cruz, and Jeb Bush won't even run. The ticket will then be Christie-Rubio against maybe Clinton-Castro0
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Fearures, plural.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.
Perhaps we should have a mockudrama where the Titanic missed the iceberg and arrived safely and somebody got off and immediately ran their car over and killed somebody of future importance, thereby changing the course of history.
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Wouldn't that change the course of the future?Flightpath said:
Fearures, plural.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.
Perhaps we should have a mockudrama where the Titanic missed the iceberg and arrived safely and somebody got off and immediately ran their car over and killed somebody of future importance, thereby changing the course of history.0 -
Well you know me, I'm a stickler for historical accuracy.Sean_F said:
"Worst" as in absurd. But, it was a hugely entertaining film.TheScreamingEagles said:
Braveheart was the worst film ever to win the Oscars.DaemonBarber said:
Didn't save it for me... Terrible film. Possibly the worst film ever and certainly worst film to have won Oscars IMO.TheScreamingEagles said:
Titanic had the redeeming feature of Kate Winslet in itDaemonBarber said:
Even worse than Titanic?TheScreamingEagles said:
Terribly.Tissue_Price said:
Does anyone know how it finishes? I got asked to leave half-way throughGIN1138 said:I notice JackW hasn't posted on here much since Fifty Shades Of Grey was released at the flicks...
#justsaying
It is the worst film ever, and I'm someone who has watched every Twilight film.
So historically inaccurate.
That said, people at the time, Mel Gibson was the wrong person to play a Scot, but look at him now, an alcoholic racist, he's the perfect person to play a Scot.
I remember in an old Empire Magazine, they listed 173 historical inaccuracies in the film.0 -
China's entire history in the UN Security Council since taking the seat from Taiwan has been not to condemn others and to oppose meddling in the internal affairs of other nations (worried about its own human rights record etc...) It is only recently becoming more vocal at the UN, now it has overseas interests and access to raw materials to protect.philiph said:
What was the response of China in the UN to Russia entering Ukraine? For the first time, no condemnation.MTimT said:
The only saving grace is that it is nigh on impossible to think of China and Russia working in harmony and they will be very unequal partners if they do. China's interests are so different from Putin's now. I only see China picking and choosing moments of cooperation when it suits it, and usually to Russia's disadvantage.philiph said:
Interesting times.MTimT said:
@ HYUFD: Think the Christie bubble has well and truly burst (thoughts of Mr Creosote - need mental bleach). As I said upthread, I think there will effectively be a two-tiered GOP primary: Bush vs Rubio followed by winner vs Walker.HYUFD said:TimT I have always believed it will be very close, but I think it will be a Clinton v Christie battle which Clinton will eke out by about 1%, shades of Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 when Nixon was also running his second presidential election campaign 8 years after he narrowly lost his first
@ Speedy "no one is going to beat her next year". I admire your confidence. She may win (I don't think she will), but it will not be a landslide.
Who will deal with a post Putin Russia. Assume he get cancer or is under a bus. Whatever follows is likely to be worse.
How will USA cope with Russia and China working in harmony to rid the globe of the Americanisation that they resent from the last 60 years?
They have a galvanising common goal and will work together to achieve it.0 -
I know, I'm the last person to critcise other people's typos, but this one by Alan Rusbridger is a humdinger.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-AMOFVIcAAWIQ4.jpg0
