Having looked a bit more at the form, In my opinion no bet represents value on the Scotland v NZ match.
For the record however I expect a 7 wicket or 130 run victory (something like 320/190) for New Zealand.
If New Zealand can score 331 against the test attack of Sri Lanka, then they should score more than 320 against Scotland.
I'll bet you £100 at evens they score less than 300
Really, given that the Sweaties could bat first? Nice try
It's worse than that, NZ have already put Scotland in! TSE not fooled.
Incidentally I do think Scotland will post enough to prevent a nine-wicket haul (currently 5/6) but not my sort of bet (the casual gambler's outsider).
Nightmare for me as I bought Williamson series runs at 374, just hope he gets a bat
Played for Yorkshire last season,county cricket for me did Williamson a world of good.
Reading at home, got your train ticket for Wembley booked yet?
I'm from that way, if you need advice on pubs, parking etc let me know.
State Control @State_Control 3m3 minutes ago Hey, #UKIP. Seen this documentary?: "Labour: The First 1400 Kids"? No. Me neither.
Stafford: The first 1200 deaths
Gotta love the scheduling... Seen what's on next??
A 'Mind Your Language' and 'Till Death Us Do Part' double bill?
You should be happy ukip taking all the hit's from the lefty loving media,if ukip didn't come to be a political force,what's your bet this doc would have been on the tories.
At the Science Museum I saw a young Jewish family with the boys all wearing yarmulkahs (sp?). My first thought was "how brave". Then came total shock at my thought.
We've reached stage where a European Gentile is quietly admiring of a 9 year old Jewish boy who will happily admit his Jewishness in public?
With our history, this is beyond wrong. It is the harbinger of deep evil.
I speak as someone who abhors the behaviour of Israel in Gaza, but when we unwittingly and subconsciously expect Jews to creep about the streets, hiding their identity, like 15th century Spain, then: UGH.
There is a cancer in the West. And it isn't western Jews.
Aren't you 50 years out of date? Well actually to be fair you might only be 50 minutes. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4355811.ece ''An incendiary row over antisemitism hit France’s ruling Socialists today after a party grandee claimed that key policies were being shaped by the prime minister’s Jewish wife.'' Maybe the guy is senile, but as the Times points out ...''It also recalls recent attacks on the Prime Minister by a host of figures ranging from Islamist radicals to Nicolas Anelka, the footballer, who all portray Mrs Gavroin as the lynchpin of the new Jewish lobby in France.''
I make no apologies for reposting what I put on a previous thread.
On the Today programme this morning there was an interview with a prominent Danish Jew and he was saying that they had got used to going out without anything which might identify them as Jewish i.e. no Star of David or kippah.
And it was the phrase "they had got used to this" which really got to me. The idea that in a free country where there were no legal restrictions on what religion you can follow, in a country which - though occupied during the last war - behaved in the most wonderfully honourable and inspiring way to save its Jewish population, in 2015 Jews had got used to hiding their religious identity in public.
There has been much discussion about the rights of Muslim women to wear the burqa and yet no-one seems bothered by the fact that in some countries Jews are unwilling to wear a Star of David because of the fear of violence or abuse, probably from the same group of people who want women to be in burqas.
70 or more years ago Jews were forced to wear identifying signs in public. Now some of them feel forced not to wear any identifying signs in public in order to feel safe.
State Control @State_Control 3m3 minutes ago Hey, #UKIP. Seen this documentary?: "Labour: The First 1400 Kids"? No. Me neither.
Stafford: The first 1200 deaths
Gotta love the scheduling... Seen what's on next??
A 'Mind Your Language' and 'Till Death Us Do Part' double bill?
You should be happy ukip taking all the hit's from the lefty loving media,if ukip didn't come to be a political force,what's your bet this doc would have been on the tories.
Oh, I'm sure there's a Tory one scheduled to appear before the GE.
Having looked a bit more at the form, In my opinion no bet represents value on the Scotland v NZ match.
For the record however I expect a 7 wicket or 130 run victory (something like 320/190) for New Zealand.
If New Zealand can score 331 against the test attack of Sri Lanka, then they should score more than 320 against Scotland.
I'll bet you £100 at evens they score less than 300
Really, given that the Sweaties could bat first? Nice try
It's worse than that, NZ have already put Scotland in! TSE not fooled.
Incidentally I do think Scotland will post enough to prevent a nine-wicket haul (currently 5/6) but not my sort of bet (the casual gambler's outsider).
Nightmare for me as I bought Williamson series runs at 374, just hope he gets a bat
Played for Yorkshire last season,county cricket for me did Williamson a world of good.
Reading at home, got your train ticket for Wembley booked yet?
I'm from that way, if you need advice on pubs, parking etc let me know.
Please nigel,I don't think that far ahead,I'm a Bradford fan ;-)
JohnZims Indeed, mind you Tesco was named 9th in the top 10 brands and McDonalds in the bottom 10 but I would much rather have shares in the latter at present
I am interested how you might be able to get the money back after 10 years? I know bankers don't get their money in cash straight away now, but lets say you have done something dodgy, you get your bonus in x years, well if you suspect that maybe, just maybe in the next 5-6 years the government might come to claw it back because you have been up to no good, well there are plenty of ways you can shift your money and then show them empty pockets and say sorry bankrupt.
I am kinda of skeptical full stop how effective anything like that is. High net worth criminals already do it on a massive scale and the whole proceeds of crime act really only manages to get money back of morons.
LIAMT and antifrank can comment if they want, but I am thoroughly dubious of the legal basis of a ten-year period, assuming the bonus is prima facie paid to the banker in year 1 (rather than held somehow).
I answered this on a previous thread. Most bonuses above a certain level are paid in shares which don't vest i.e. belong to the employee for a period. At any point during that period, if the employee leaves or misbehaves those shares can be forfeited. In theory you could make the period 10 years. Though, usually, vesting is on a rolling basis e.g. if over 5 years you get 20% in year 1, the next 20% in year 2 and so on.
Of course if the bonus doesn't get paid it can't be taxed so that's your bonus tax fecked right there.
State Control @State_Control 3m3 minutes ago Hey, #UKIP. Seen this documentary?: "Labour: The First 1400 Kids"? No. Me neither.
Stafford: The first 1200 deaths
Gotta love the scheduling... Seen what's on next??
A 'Mind Your Language' and 'Till Death Us Do Part' double bill?
You should be happy ukip taking all the hit's from the lefty loving media,if ukip didn't come to be a political force,what's your bet this doc would have been on the tories.
Oh, I'm sure there's a Tory one scheduled to appear before the GE.
We had that laughable Bullingdon one before the last GE plus (I think) the Ashcroft hit job that managed to reveal basically that his businesses in Belize are very successful and erhhh well some people don't like that.
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr "mockumentary" claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
I am interested how you might be able to get the money back after 10 years? I know bankers don't get their money in cash straight away now, but lets say you have done something dodgy, you get your bonus in x years, well if you suspect that maybe, just maybe in the next 5-6 years the government might come to claw it back because you have been up to no good, well there are plenty of ways you can shift your money and then show them empty pockets and say sorry bankrupt.
I am kinda of skeptical full stop how effective anything like that is. High net worth criminals already do it on a massive scale and the whole proceeds of crime act really only manages to get money back of morons.
LIAMT and antifrank can comment if they want, but I am thoroughly dubious of the legal basis of a ten-year period, assuming the bonus is prima facie paid to the banker in year 1 (rather than held somehow).
I answered this on a previous thread. Most bonuses above a certain level are paid in shares which don't vest i.e. belong to the employee for a period. At any point during that period, if the employee leaves or misbehaves those shares can be forfeited. In theory you could make the period 10 years. Though, usually, vesting is on a rolling basis e.g. if over 5 years you get 20% in year 1, the next 20% in year 2 and so on.
Of course if the bonus doesn't get paid it can't be taxed so that's your bonus tax fecked right there.
I am sure Labour have thought all this through fully and it wasn't written on the back of a fag packet like todays announcements.
I had to laugh at Miliband giving the massive build up, we are going to totally change the whole economy, completely revamp the relationship of business and the employee, and here is the grand plan....Actually listening to the build up, I thought he was going to go nuclear and propose something major like maximum wages, x% of board must be front line workers, x% of profits must go to the workers in a mutual fund etc...nope some more apprenticeships...maybe...
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr "mockumentary" claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
Sorry, where do i come into it? I've not said anything about it - I've been away for a week, just got back.
I am interested how you might be able to get the money back after 10 years? I know bankers don't get their money in cash straight away now, but lets say you have done something dodgy, you get your bonus in x years, well if you suspect that maybe, just maybe in the next 5-6 years the government might come to claw it back because you have been up to no good, well there are plenty of ways you can shift your money and then show them empty pockets and say sorry bankrupt.
I am kinda of skeptical full stop how effective anything like that is. High net worth criminals already do it on a massive scale and the whole proceeds of crime act really only manages to get money back of morons.
LIAMT and antifrank can comment if they want, but I am thoroughly dubious of the legal basis of a ten-year period, assuming the bonus is prima facie paid to the banker in year 1 (rather than held somehow).
I answered this on a previous thread. Most bonuses above a certain level are paid in shares which don't vest i.e. belong to the employee for a period. At any point during that period, if the employee leaves or misbehaves those shares can be forfeited. In theory you could make the period 10 years. Though, usually, vesting is on a rolling basis e.g. if over 5 years you get 20% in year 1, the next 20% in year 2 and so on.
Of course if the bonus doesn't get paid it can't be taxed so that's your bonus tax fecked right there.
I am sure Labour have thought all this through fully and it wasn't written on the back of a fag packet like todays announcements.
Pigs readying themselves for take-off in my garden as I type......
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
If I were UKIP, I would wait a couple of days and put out a manifesto commitment to privatise Channel 4. That would put the cat amongst the pigeons
I hope the end of the programme features the UKIP government collapsing and a LibLabCon government taking power and embracing the Euro and the joys of political union. The country returns to prosperity and lives happily ever after.
It reminded me a bit of Anthony Wells' alternative history novel about Enoch Powell becoming PM.
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr documentary claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
I would agree with some of that - they have done it because they can. No other reason than that and ratings and controversy. But then again we have to defend freedom of speech... But the fact remains that when you do this sort of 'gogglebox' thing you open yourself up to whatever comes next. Just look at the 'Royal Family' documentary all those years ago.
And if someone wants to satirise Miliband then I'm sure it will be no more than Mrs Thatcher had to put up with. Mind you the company who did this has form and I am not so sure that various people from Blair to Farage will be happy with what passes for satire.
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr "mockumentary" claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
Sorry, where do i come into it? I've not said anything about it - I've been away for a week, just got back.
I apologise Nick, I some how manage to confuse you with a totally different poster who was comparing these two and saying they evened themselves out.
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr "mockumentary" claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
Sorry, where do i come into it? I've not said anything about it - I've been away for a week, just got back.
Nick, after the ICM excitement the Lord saw them frustrated again. You just appeared, so you are an easy target.
UKIP documentary was banal nonsense and almost playing a pro-UKIP hand. Not intentionally but as a result of the metropolitan liberal mindset that "it's all about race" without realising that for Kippers it is so they would be perfectly happy with the social cohesion issues of Kipper Fascistdom.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr "mockumentary" claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
Sorry, where do i come into it? I've not said anything about it - I've been away for a week, just got back.
Nick, after the ICM excitement the Lord saw them frustrated again. You just appeared, so you are an easy target.
You seem to have done exactly the same as I did, check my posts at the time, I was saying exactly opposite to your claims. Its easy done when multi-tasking I know, I just did it, and you just done the same.
@viewcode. From the outset of these 'negotiations', it struck me that the Greeks were following a playbook created by someone who had book knowledge but no practical experience. Part of the analysis of any negotiation of this type is not just the substance of the negotiations (the hard numbers) but also the process of the negotiation, because it is not a one off and so maintaining a working relationship with all involved is essential. So what did the Greeks do from day one? Everything they could to piss off everyone, and in particular to piss of the most important player of all, Germany. Anyone who has played a true Prisoner's Dilemma knows that, in order to get to the optimal outcome rather than the suboptimal one, the players have to trust each other. Varoufakis seems to have ignored that simple fact in trying to play a very weak hand too cleverly by half.
I'm not so sure about that. I wonder if the problem isn't between the ECB and Greece but between the ECB and Germany. http://coppolacomment.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/what-on-earth-is-ecb-up-to.html highlighted that possibility earlier this month. After all there is little you can do when Germany continually says nein....
So why was Tsipras' first act to go to the monument to the victims of the Nazis? There could never be any good consequence of that.
UKIP documentary was banal nonsense and almost playing a pro-UKIP hand. Not intentionally but as a result of the metropolitan liberal mindset that "it's all about race" without realising that for Kippers it is so they would be perfectly happy with the social cohesion issues of Kipper Fascistdom.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
It will have zero impact, just saying it was always going to happen. Have to say surprised they got Balls doing it...not because he isn't known to tell the old porkie...Yes "Mr McBride"....but because his expenses are so interesting.
UKIP documentary was banal nonsense and almost playing a pro-UKIP hand. Not intentionally but as a result of the metropolitan liberal mindset that "it's all about race" without realising that for Kippers it is so they would be perfectly happy with the social cohesion issues of Kipper Fascistdom.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
The C4 documentary is a disgrace. Not because of Ukip - they're big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves - but because of the smear on their voters.
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
If I were UKIP, I would wait a couple of days and put out a manifesto commitment to privatise Channel 4. That would put the cat amongst the pigeons
Not really sure I see the point of that. Whilst C4 are publicly owned they receive no public money and although I am not in favour of state ownership of broadcasters, such a move would be a rather petty response. So far UKIPs official line of rough and tumble of politics has been exactly right and I think they should continue in that vein.
TWO-thirds of Brits do not believe hapless Ed Miliband looks like a Prime Minister in waiting, a Sun poll has revealed.
And 42 per cent – rising to 44 per cent among Labour supporters – think brother David would be a better bet to lead Labour.
In another blow to Red Ed – who beat his sibling to Labour's top job – the 67 per of Brits who do not believe he looks premiership class include 36 per cent of Labour backers.
Some 59 per cent of all voters also reckon he would not be up to the job in No10.
Not sure I buy NP-ExMP...its ok to have a smear-fest documentary about UKIP because they did a boozey hour with the couple off gogglebox.
I am not sure he would be very happy if ITV say did nice segment on This Morning with Ed, then a 2hr "mockumentary" claiming that an Ed Miliband government would turn Britain into something akin to worst of Soviet Russia.
Sorry, where do i come into it? I've not said anything about it - I've been away for a week, just got back.
Have you been anywhere interesting?
(Edited: sorry if it's private do tell me to mind my own business. But you often seem to travel to interesting places for work hence my question.)
UKIP documentary was banal nonsense and almost playing a pro-UKIP hand. Not intentionally but as a result of the metropolitan liberal mindset that "it's all about race" without realising that for Kippers it is so they would be perfectly happy with the social cohesion issues of Kipper Fascistdom.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
Five million lay offs? You make Clegg sound sensible
The BBC News point out that Greek banks are bleeding deposits at a rate of 2 billion euros a week. I'm surprised it's so low. I did point out that this would be the result of the new govts policies after the election.
The BBC News point out that Greek banks are bleeding deposits at a rate of 2 billion euros a week. I'm surprised it's so low. I did point out that this would be the result of the new govts policies after the election.
If I were UKIP, I would wait a couple of days and put out a manifesto commitment to privatise Channel 4. That would put the cat amongst the pigeons
Not really sure I see the point of that. Whilst C4 are publicly owned they receive no public money and although I am not in favour of state ownership of broadcasters, such a move would be a rather petty response. So far UKIPs official line of rough and tumble of politics has been exactly right and I think they should continue in that vein.
Agreed. I just get annoyed when the media smear voters.
UKIP documentary was banal nonsense and almost playing a pro-UKIP hand. Not intentionally but as a result of the metropolitan liberal mindset that "it's all about race" without realising that for Kippers it is so they would be perfectly happy with the social cohesion issues of Kipper Fascistdom.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
To be honest Dair I doubt you would know the real world if it hit you in the face with a wet Mackerel.
'Nick, after the ICM excitement the Lord saw them frustrated again. You just appeared, so you are an easy target.'
Teacher's pet, after the ICM poll you were calling people scum, how frustrated is that.
Scum???? I called Murdochs paper The Scum. I didn't realise the paper was alive. Does he/she have a surname? How old is he/she? I hope he/she is not an immigrant.
I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
Tomorrow's telegraph is reporting that a dozen Shadow Cabinet members, including Ed Balls, have claimed on expenses, odd jobs without receipts.
rearrange these words: chickens to roost coming home
here's the story
A dozen MPs in Labour's shadow cabinet claimed thousands without submitting a single receipt
Ed Balls insisted that he hadn't paid for anything in cash without getting a receipt for two decades. But almost half the Labour cabinet claimed thousands of pounds without submitting a receipt.
@viewcode. From the outset of these 'negotiations', it struck me that the Greeks were following a playbook created by someone who had book knowledge but no practical experience. Part of the analysis of any negotiation of this type is not just the substance of the negotiations (the hard numbers) but also the process of the negotiation, because it is not a one off and so maintaining a working relationship with all involved is essential. So what did the Greeks do from day one? Everything they could to piss off everyone, and in particular to piss of the most important player of all, Germany. Anyone who has played a true Prisoner's Dilemma knows that, in order to get to the optimal outcome rather than the suboptimal one, the players have to trust each other. Varoufakis seems to have ignored that simple fact in trying to play a very weak hand too cleverly by half.
That works if the 2 sides don't really hate each other and even then if the disaster of no agreement is not total (Cold War vs Nuclear Holocaust) The end of the eurozone will not be the end of mankind, so both sides have no problem of pressing the red button if they really hate each other.
The eurozone is an emotional and political thing (the EU too), it is disastrous economically, however it manages to go on because of the emotion of the "european ideal", if you take that emotion away and replace it by hate towards "european oppressors" then it's game over for the euro (and for the EU) as inevitably you get a populace that votes a government that wants to get out.
Unfortunately, equilibria in Prisoners' Dilemmas are more to do with the dynamics of the set up, rather than the severity of the consequences. When coupled with either the Mad Monk or the "Throwing the Steering Wheel Out of the Window While Playing Chicken" approach to signaling in negotiations, parties can very easily get to the worst possible outcomes without ever intending to.
I think we have to take the Greek people, and even Syriza, at their word that they would have preferred to have stayed in the Euro. So you then have to assume they don't hate everything about or everyone in the EZ. The charm offensive sans Germany was always going to piss the Germans off, but was not in itself a bad move. But then to throw Molotov cocktails at all and sundry instead of building a coalition of allies, well ...
However, at this stage you may be right that Syriza has come to conclude that pushing the red button is the right option. I am not sure that the Greek people would agree once the consequences become apparent. Greek banks are closed Monday - the ideal time to put in place currency controls. Look for how much money starts leaving the country tomorrow. If there is a major uptick from $500 million a day, maybe the Syriza will blink. Or maybe not.
UKIP documentary was banal nonsense and almost playing a pro-UKIP hand. Not intentionally but as a result of the metropolitan liberal mindset that "it's all about race" without realising that for Kippers it is so they would be perfectly happy with the social cohesion issues of Kipper Fascistdom.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
To be honest Dair I doubt you would know the real world if it hit you in the face with a wet Mackerel.
Tomorrow's telegraph is reporting that a dozen Shadow Cabinet members, including Ed Balls, have claimed on expenses, odd jobs without receipts.
I remember an episode of The Thick of It where Malcolm vetoed the spin team bringing up dodgy donors because everyone ends up looking like a, well, you know. Inevitably life has imitated art.
It was a desperate gambit by Ed to go after donors, but it is clear that they haven't gained and at worst it has energised the Tory base (even before the spiral of silence adjustment they are on level terms with Labour with ICM). Now it is open season on any stupid donor that Labour have, and the Tories, by virtue of keeping quiet, just sit tight and the only light shone on them is by Labour who will face charges of hypocrisy every time they try to bring it up.
'Scum???? I called Murdochs paper The Scum. I didn't realise the paper was alive.'
Didn't realize a newspaper could tweet,is it alive ?
No, however, it's political head is, well he was a few hours ago.
Of course you called a Murdoch paper scum, but when the paper that aligns with your unpleasant views and is caught up in hacking and has to apologise, you say zippo.. I think you know the word by now...
I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
PB Golden Rule – a single poll showing a Tory lead will get dissected to within an inch of its life.
Polls showing other findings will be widely ignored.
And suggests that Labour may possibly have been hurt as much by the row over tax avoidance as the Tories. The public don't consider that either party has clean hands.
'Scum???? I called Murdochs paper The Scum. I didn't realise the paper was alive.'
Didn't realize a newspaper could tweet,is it alive ?
No, however, it's political head is, well he was a few hours ago.
Of course you called a Murdoch paper scum, but when the paper that aligns with your unpleasant views and is caught up in hacking and has to apologise, you say zippo.. I think you know the word by now...
'Scum???? I called Murdochs paper The Scum. I didn't realise the paper was alive.'
Didn't realize a newspaper could tweet,is it alive ?
No, however, it's political head is, well he was a few hours ago.
Of course you called a Murdoch paper scum, but when the paper that aligns with your unpleasant views and is caught up in hacking and has to apologise, you say zippo.. I think you know the word by now...
just in case you really don't know the word, its hypocrite. you should read up on it.
Ed Balls and 11 other members of the shadow cabinet claimed expenses for cleaning, gardening or odd jobs without submitting receipts,
Mr Balls claimed £1,610 for cleaners and his wife Yvette Cooper claimed £2,640 for cleaning and gardening, out of a total of £37,881 claimed by the 12 Labour MPs.
...A spokesman for Mr Balls on Monday defended his cleaning claims, saying: “Ed’s cleaner was and continues to be employed on PAYE and paid by bank transfer. These claims were made fully in accordance with the Fees Office rules.”
Story or not, this is from 2006....I think more interesting is Eddie's and Yvette expenses that only got a very cursory glance from a friendly journo 5 years ago.
I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.
I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.
Luckily I'm not one of the frothing ones so I am looking at 21 out of the last 28 showing Labour in the lead.
'And suggests that Labour may possibly have been hurt as much by the row over tax avoidance as the Tories. The public don't consider that either party has clean hands'
The public remember the number of Labor MP's banged up for expense fraud.
I am kinda of skeptical full stop how effective anything like that is. High net worth criminals already do it on a massive scale and the whole proceeds of crime act really only manages to get money back of morons.
snip.
I answered this on a previous thread. Most bonuses above a certain level are paid in shares which don't vest i.e. belong to the employee for a period. At any point during that period, if the employee leaves or misbehaves those shares can be forfeited. In theory you could make the period 10 years. Though, usually, vesting is on a rolling basis e.g. if over 5 years you get 20% in year 1, the next 20% in year 2 and so on.
Of course if the bonus doesn't get paid it can't be taxed so that's your bonus tax fecked right there.
I am sure Labour have thought all this through fully and it wasn't written on the back of a fag packet like todays announcements.
I had to laugh at Miliband giving the massive build up, we are going to totally change the whole economy, completely revamp the relationship of business and the employee, and here is the grand plan....Actually listening to the build up, I thought he was going to go nuclear and propose something major like maximum wages, x% of board must be front line workers, x% of profits must go to the workers in a mutual fund etc...nope some more apprenticeships...maybe...
And suggests that Labour may possibly have been hurt as much by the row over tax avoidance as the Tories. The public don't consider that either party has clean hands.
It honestly doesn't look like they Tories have been hurt at all by it, they have remained on about 31-33, it's Labour who have taken all of the damage.
Ed Balls and 11 other members of the shadow cabinet claimed expenses for cleaning, gardening or odd jobs without submitting receipts,
Mr Balls claimed £1,610 for cleaners and his wife Yvette Cooper claimed £2,640 for cleaning and gardening, out of a total of £37,881 claimed by the 12 Labour MPs.
...A spokesman for Mr Balls on Monday defended his cleaning claims, saying: “Ed’s cleaner was and continues to be employed on PAYE and paid by bank transfer. These claims were made fully in accordance with the Fees Office rules.”
I think it's quaint that posters are still picking over the bones of the ICM poll so long after the dogs barked and the caravan moved on (to use an old Arab proverb)
I think it's hilarious that a bunch of Lefties who have spent the last few days frothing at the mouth over beastly Tory tax avoiders are now resting their hopes on a poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft.
Really that would be very silly.
My view is LARGER will be the least accurate polls (Angus Reed of 2015) and are pretty worthless.
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On the Today programme this morning there was an interview with a prominent Danish Jew and he was saying that they had got used to going out without anything which might identify them as Jewish i.e. no Star of David or kippah.
And it was the phrase "they had got used to this" which really got to me. The idea that in a free country where there were no legal restrictions on what religion you can follow, in a country which - though occupied during the last war - behaved in the most wonderfully honourable and inspiring way to save its Jewish population, in 2015 Jews had got used to hiding their religious identity in public.
There has been much discussion about the rights of Muslim women to wear the burqa and yet no-one seems bothered by the fact that in some countries Jews are unwilling to wear a Star of David because of the fear of violence or abuse, probably from the same group of people who want women to be in burqas.
70 or more years ago Jews were forced to wear identifying signs in public. Now some of them feel forced not to wear any identifying signs in public in order to feel safe.
And when they do - as this reporter did in Paris - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11416302/Ten-hours-walking-in-Paris-as-a-Jew.html - they get abused.
This is intolerable. This is shameful. We simply cannot live like this.
The Tories know how to get a program pulled, Well Maggie did (allegedly).
EDIT :-
You use the Secret Service!
Of course if the bonus doesn't get paid it can't be taxed so that's your bonus tax fecked right there.
http://www.isobel.com/
They say of themselves:
Our business is creative ideas, our mindset is commercial and our specialty is revitalising brands…whatever it takes
One wonders how creative they might get in touting for business?
We all know Ukip won't be anywhere near power after May 7th. But that's what the left don't like. They know that we are heading for a rough ride over the next few years and - with a bit of luck - it will be the established parties who get blamed for it.
Impact on the general election? Square root of bugger all.
I had to laugh at Miliband giving the massive build up, we are going to totally change the whole economy, completely revamp the relationship of business and the employee, and here is the grand plan....Actually listening to the build up, I thought he was going to go nuclear and propose something major like maximum wages, x% of board must be front line workers, x% of profits must go to the workers in a mutual fund etc...nope some more apprenticeships...maybe...
Is anyone surprised that Balls has been snuffling in the swill?
You are vaguely left of centre, that means you are a commie b*stard , and are guilty whatever your excuse.
But the fact remains that when you do this sort of 'gogglebox' thing you open yourself up to whatever comes next. Just look at the 'Royal Family' documentary all those years ago.
And if someone wants to satirise Miliband then I'm sure it will be no more than Mrs Thatcher had to put up with. Mind you the company who did this has form and I am not so sure that various people from Blair to Farage will be happy with what passes for satire.
Should have stuck to the real world outcomes, the real impact of 5 million lay offs, the financial sector leaving London, UDI from Scotland being entirely justified by a UDBrexit, massive inflation and currency devaluation.
So many interesting things they could have looked at and all they did was play to the Kipper crowd.
Yes, I hope Ed's team have a contingency plan.
TWO-thirds of Brits do not believe hapless Ed Miliband looks like a Prime Minister in waiting, a Sun poll has revealed.
And 42 per cent – rising to 44 per cent among Labour supporters – think brother David would be a better bet to lead Labour.
In another blow to Red Ed – who beat his sibling to Labour's top job – the 67 per of Brits who do not believe he looks premiership class include 36 per cent of Labour backers.
Some 59 per cent of all voters also reckon he would not be up to the job in No10.
(Edited: sorry if it's private do tell me to mind my own business. But you often seem to travel to interesting places for work hence my question.)
I'm surprised it's so low. I did point out that this would be the result of the new govts policies after the election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxbtpRhdwjs
'Nick, after the ICM excitement the Lord saw them frustrated again. You just appeared, so you are an easy target.'
Teacher's pet, after the ICM poll you were calling people scum, how frustrated is that.
'The Scum Political Head Tweeted last month he was told it was January. Must be a competition who moves goalposts more Basil or Lynton Crosby.'
Scotland 12 for 4
A dozen MPs in Labour's shadow cabinet claimed thousands without submitting a single receipt
Ed Balls insisted that he hadn't paid for anything in cash without getting a receipt for two decades. But almost half the Labour cabinet claimed thousands of pounds without submitting a receipt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11416789/A-dozen-MPs-in-Labours-shadow-cabinet-claimed-thousands-without-submitting-a-single-receipt.html
'Scum???? I called Murdochs paper The Scum. I didn't realise the paper was alive.'
Didn't realize a newspaper could tweet,is it alive ?
Stop digging your looking ridiculous
I think we have to take the Greek people, and even Syriza, at their word that they would have preferred to have stayed in the Euro. So you then have to assume they don't hate everything about or everyone in the EZ. The charm offensive sans Germany was always going to piss the Germans off, but was not in itself a bad move. But then to throw Molotov cocktails at all and sundry instead of building a coalition of allies, well ...
However, at this stage you may be right that Syriza has come to conclude that pushing the red button is the right option. I am not sure that the Greek people would agree once the consequences become apparent. Greek banks are closed Monday - the ideal time to put in place currency controls. Look for how much money starts leaving the country tomorrow. If there is a major uptick from $500 million a day, maybe the Syriza will blink. Or maybe not.
2. Lab Lead
1. Tie
It's still neck and neck basically isn't it?
#megapollingmonday
To be fair, some may not have heard terms like "The Daily Fail, Torygraph, etc,?
It was a desperate gambit by Ed to go after donors, but it is clear that they haven't gained and at worst it has energised the Tory base (even before the spiral of silence adjustment they are on level terms with Labour with ICM). Now it is open season on any stupid donor that Labour have, and the Tories, by virtue of keeping quiet, just sit tight and the only light shone on them is by Labour who will face charges of hypocrisy every time they try to bring it up.
Honestly it was idiotic.
Down three with Yougov, one with Populus, one with ICM and flat with Ashcroft.
They should have left Ed locked up in a cupboard.
Polls showing other findings will be widely ignored.
Goodnight!
We have been here before though.
Wonder what rest of the week has in store.
So very little will happen (famous last words)
Mr Balls claimed £1,610 for cleaners and his wife Yvette Cooper claimed £2,640 for cleaning and gardening, out of a total of £37,881 claimed by the 12 Labour MPs.
...A spokesman for Mr Balls on Monday defended his cleaning claims, saying: “Ed’s cleaner was and continues to be employed on PAYE and paid by bank transfer. These claims were made fully in accordance with the Fees Office rules.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11416788/Ed-Balls-among-12-shadow-cabinet-members-who-claimed-expenses-without-receipts.html
Story or not, this is from 2006....I think more interesting is Eddie's and Yvette expenses that only got a very cursory glance from a friendly journo 5 years ago.
2. Tie
If you discount the comedy pollster. Surely everyone was laughing at Ashcroft even before the Great Retraction?
'And suggests that Labour may possibly have been hurt as much by the row over tax avoidance as the Tories. The public don't consider that either party has clean hands'
The public remember the number of Labor MP's banged up for expense fraud.
1 --- the Tories have a perfectly acceptable policy which is increasing apprenticeships and
2 --- Miliband was speaking at Jaguar Land Rover which has a long association with Warwick University (which is in Coventry I think!) and has IIRC just announced it was funding a new set of university engineering places, all without Mr Miliband's help.
http://www.jaguarlandrover.com/gl/en/responsible-business/social-responsibility/advancing-knowledge/partnerships-with-universities/
My view is LARGER will be the least accurate polls (Angus Reed of 2015) and are pretty worthless.
So expect defections, polls with Tory leads of double digit and Lab leads of double digits.
A cabinet resignation too.