Stodge’s third and final look at the locals – politicalbetting.com

Taz said:

How the SNP broke Scotland, from the Telegraph. Obviously not the most balanced of takes. I presume the SNP did some good too .

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/how-the-snp-broke-scotland/ar-AA1nUzga?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=8e4caeb7eded4e7094361cd25036be45&ei=10

wooliedyed said:

Taz said:

Ncuti Gatwa’s Doctor will explore his queerness, says RTD: ‘We’re not delivering a neutered Doctor’

I have nothing but admiration for the ability of RTD to garner publicity for his show ahead of it dropping on the 11th May. He truly is a master at his craft. I have nothing but admiration for him. Also makes some decent Telly.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/tv/ncuti-gatwa-s-doctor-will-explore-his-queerness-says-rtd-we-re-not-delivering-a-neutered-doctor/ar-AA1nIFcc?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=90bd8d12f3df4143e059dd00337cd53d&ei=16

Makes a change from extremely old Time Lord absconds with attractive teenage girl and places her in danger only he can save her from

MattW said:

wooliedyed said:

Andy_JS said:

Mexicanpete said:

Nick Ferrari on LBC claims two Labour MPs are about to defect to Gorgeous's latest vehicle.

The MP for Coventry South might be a possibility.

I suspect that entirely depends on whether jezza is planning a new party or not.
Rumours were Webbe and Tahir Ali but the latter has vehemently denied

Claudia Webbe is not currently a Labour MP, of course.

There are a few potential names if we are looking at "majors on Palestine" people, but we'll hear soon enough.

Leon said:

They will surely have to start charging simply to come here soon. As Venice has done

I believe ex-PBer @SeanT predicted this: fees simply to enter famous destinations, towns, islands - in a piece for the Spec in 2016

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/caught-in-the-tourist-trap/

“By the end of my autumnal travels, it occurred to me that there is one solution: the Bhutanese example. You ration travel, by time and money: you start to make people pay simply to get into cities, regions, nations”

I bow to no-one in my futurology and extrapolations, but that is notably prescient: as Venice starts to charge simply for Venice

Andy_JS said:

Leon said:

They will surely have to start charging simply to come here soon. As Venice has done

I believe ex-PBer @SeanT predicted this: fees simply to enter famous destinations, towns, islands - in a piece for the Spec in 2016

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/caught-in-the-tourist-trap/

“By the end of my autumnal travels, it occurred to me that there is one solution: the Bhutanese example. You ration travel, by time and money: you start to make people pay simply to get into cities, regions, nations”

I bow to no-one in my futurology and extrapolations, but that is notably prescient: as Venice starts to charge simply for Venice

Why should only wealthy people be able to travel to interesting places?

Fairliered said:

TimS said:

Mexicanpete said:

Malmesbury said:

Mexicanpete said:

MoonRabbit said:

Heathener said:

Mexicanpete said:

MoonRabbit said:

Clutch_Brompton said:

MoonRabbit said:

stodge said:

Evening all

Stands Scotland where it did?
Alas, poor country almost afraid to know itself.

The second line adds much needed context to the first.

If you want context, there are those who believe every single Reform vote will head to the Conservatives at the first whiff of electoral gunpowder. A more realistic aim might be the 23% of 2019 Conservative voters who now back Reform - with the 2019 Conservative at 45%, 23% of that would be just over 10% of the entire electorate so you could see the Conservative vote share at 33% with Reform down to 3%.

The actual polling of Reform voters has suggested only a third would support the Conservatives absent a Reform candidate so that would push the Conservatives to the mid to upper 20s on tonight's polling.

In the 2021 PCC elections, the Conservatives led 44.5%-30% and won 30 with Labour winning 8.

On a straight 16% swing from Conservative to Labour, the Conservatives would hold just four. Turnout in 2021 was 34% - will be it any better on Thursday?

If you are referring to me, please use my name as the antagonist. I’m more than happy to debate this.

The polling breakdown of REF support you quoted is meaningless. Pollsters don’t predict, they just give you a snapshot. Not even MRP are prediction, just research that’s dating badly the moment it’s published.

Whatever polls have been telling you, please remember they are not predictive, the minds of voters can move very quickly when faced with a real choice. Pollsters have been feeding voters a smorgasbord of options that’s not avaivailble at the general election, unless you wish to waste your time and effort voting. First past the post ensures only Conservative or Labour wins the General Election, voters pick either Starmer or Sunak as Prime Minister - outside of that it’s Libdem to battle in 25 to 45 constituencies, Greens fighting in 2, every vote elsewhere voters will know its waste of time filling in the form, as it doesn’t count in the real election. First past the post creates this different forced choice election.

Whatever polls have been telling you, please remember they are not predictive, the minds of voters can move very quickly when the narrative changes - shift in just the 4 weeks of an election in defiance of real local elections votes mere weeks before. A July 4th election will be set against inflation under 2%, economy out of recession with strong 2024 growth, and BOE announced interest rate cut and mortgage lenders responding - the credit crunch and Truss budget will be from a different time and place, years ago. Also thousands of Asylum Seekers have been rounded up into detention and planes taking off deporting them to Africa, with Ireland and the EU bleeting deterrents like this are just not playing fair, as they are now getting the immigrants once set on Britain.

Those are just the known knowns, relentlessly across media that will reshape the narrative in the six weeks till polling day. What’s unknown knowns is what dirt will be thrown at Labour front bench. Fact is, just footage of Starmer at a window holding a beer, reduced a 10 point labour lead down to just 4 points when relentlessly thrown at him daily in a campaign month two years ago. The unknown unknowns I ask you to consider, is impact on polls of Nigel Farage invited to join the Conservative Party, and stand for them as a Conservative candidate.

Secondly, I thank you Stodge for your fine headers on the Local Elections, where you have given us what to watch to calibrate what is good middling and bad night for each party. But what PNS and NEV will show us Labour underperforming the polling, what share figure shows them underperforming against the westminster polling, but still on cusp of a parliamentary majority? I found a NEV of 12% is the least Labour need to get this week to form a majority government - and even that figure is way beneath the swings in the polling. How do you understand it?

Local elections are not national elections. There is considerable polling evidence that the Cons nationally are remarkably more unpopular than local conservatives. There is a reason so many candidates choose to identify themselves as just that, 'Local Conservatives'. There is a reason Mayoral candidates have been distancing themselves from the dreaded C-word, even with the local branding.

Currygate closed the polls? You might like to check the figures on that one. Remember when the story broke and when the 'campaign' ended. Any impact was minimal at best. It was also something of a one-shot pistol. An aspect of the failure of the Rayner allegations to move the polls is that Currygate turned out to be, how should we say this, a load of bollocks.

Meanwhile we can assume the polls will narrow in the run in to the GE. Well, probably. However, not inevitably. I think Lab will have to make a major mistake and that is not impossible. However, to assume it will happen is to seriously under-estimate Starmer. He does not have to be brilliant he just has to be better than his opponent and at the moment that opponent seems very likely to be Mr Rishi Sunak.

Think on that - have you seen any evidence that Mr Sunak can maintain a credible election campaign? Can you imagine him facing a 'job interview' style grilling from a serious journalist? Can you imagine him in a debate with Starmer? To have a chance of closing the gap to any meaningful degree he willl have to do all of those and do them well.

In my many GEs I have only ever voted Lab once. I am no fan-boy for Starmer. However, their (not so) secret weapons are going to be front and centre throughout the GE campaign whenever it comes. Their names - Mr Rishi Sunak and the truly pathetic record of the current Govt.

We can all hope for miracles but they hardly ever come.

“Currygate closed the polls? You might like to check the figures on that one.”
The evidence absolutely supports me on that one. Go look, just 4% gap when it came to polling day.
It actually worked. By the end of the campaign Labour couldn’t get its message across for being asked by every media outfit about beergate.

“Meanwhile we can assume the polls will narrow in the run in to the GE.”
I am arguing they will close to just a 5 point gap without any swingback from Lab to Con, just reuniting of the centre right bloc.

Sunak is a drag on Tory polling, though maybe not ultimately huge drag on votes as you assume.
Sunak and Hunt will be thought of differently than last year, last month, last week and next week after a 6 week campaign built upon inflation under 2%, BOE interest rate cut, economy out of recession with strong 2024 growth. The fact Labour have called the Rwanda policy so badly only accelerates that Ref to Con campaign period swingback.

You don’t understand do you? Just watch. watch it happen just like this.

You've come back madder than ever MarchMoonHare!

Up the Tories!

I thought they were spoofing the other day and I’m still not sure. No one can be reading the mood of the nation this badly can they?

Tories closing the gap to 5 points is not misreading the mood of a Nation, all they need to do is attract back out for them on election day a block of rightwing brexiteer voters they have had voting for them at the last General Elections. Simples.

Why do you keep misreading the polls into thinking Labour have attracted so many votes away from Conservatives, it’s given them a 20 point lead? That’s not what the polling situation is, thats not the 20 point lead, that’s not the mood of the Nation.

I am sure you are right and as such have mortgaged my house for a 33/1 bet on a Conservative majority.

You evidence is scant, but I am relying on your instincts to make me very wealthy.

Would you be interested in investing in a startup? Novel electric vehicle batteries utilising block chain, associated with New Physics, Fusion and Space launch?

Just this morning I invested the remainder of my pile on Rolls Royce mini nuclear power generation and European delicatessen importation.

Those RR mini nukes are still a bit big though for domestic use. There's a gap in the market for a full service household nuclear generation option, on the model of solar panels.

Subscribe for home nuclear. Up-front payment then a small monthly service contract.

Briefcase-sized reactor arrives and the installers will install it on the back wall or in the basement and wire it up to your mains supply. Excess power goes back into the grid with a generous feed-in tariff. Cooling water can be reused for your bath and showers. Every couple of months an engineer will come with a van to collect your radioactive waste and replenish the uranium.

And if you want to be even more green then consider home hydro. Engineers will come and install a micro-generator on your mains water supply. Worth considering if you're on fixed water rates rather than a meter.

Given recent weather, what about mini turbines installed in drainpipes?

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Leon said:

Andy_JS said:

Leon said:

They will surely have to start charging simply to come here soon. As Venice has done

I believe ex-PBer @SeanT predicted this: fees simply to enter famous destinations, towns, islands - in a piece for the Spec in 2016

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/caught-in-the-tourist-trap/

“By the end of my autumnal travels, it occurred to me that there is one solution: the Bhutanese example. You ration travel, by time and money: you start to make people pay simply to get into cities, regions, nations”

I bow to no-one in my futurology and extrapolations, but that is notably prescient: as Venice starts to charge simply for Venice

Why should only wealthy people be able to travel to interesting places?

Because the places that everyone wants to go will have to be rationed SOMEHOW. Read that brilliantly prescient article by the much-missed @SeanT

The obvious way to ration them is by price - so that the money can be used to maintain the sites and bribe the locals to tolerate the influx

I guess you could ration them by lottery ticket but let’s face it that’s not going to happen. Humans are not that generous and also you need to recompense local traders who will lose from diminished custom

So yes travel to the really lovely places will be limited to rich people and professional travel writers. Good. Kick out all the smelly plebs, they’ve ruined Mont St Michel. I am already leaving. Ugh

Andy_JS said:

Leon said:

They will surely have to start charging simply to come here soon. As Venice has done

I believe ex-PBer @SeanT predicted this: fees simply to enter famous destinations, towns, islands - in a piece for the Spec in 2016

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/caught-in-the-tourist-trap/

“By the end of my autumnal travels, it occurred to me that there is one solution: the Bhutanese example. You ration travel, by time and money: you start to make people pay simply to get into cities, regions, nations”

I bow to no-one in my futurology and extrapolations, but that is notably prescient: as Venice starts to charge simply for Venice

Why should only wealthy people be able to travel to interesting places? Maybe a lottery system would be better.

Leon said:

Benpointer said:

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Outrageous! Don't you have a Press Pass?

I do have a press card but I can’t be arsed with the faff. From what I’ve read the abbey interior is not that special anyway - it’s all about the location

And now I’ve seen the location and the moment you finally approach the Mont is indeed very special and quite sublime. This majestic ensemble in grey gold stone, rising from the Normandy waters

After that it’s just massive crowds outside mediocre creperies. Mont St Michel can go fuck itself until they keep out the proles by charging €300 a day to people like me and only me

Tchoh!

Theuniondivvie said:

LostPassword said:

Andy_JS said:

"Simon Harris: ‘Legitimate expectation’ asylum seekers will be returned to UK
The Taoiseach called for a sense of calm and said everyone needed ‘to take a deep breath and just be very factual’."

https://www.irishnews.com/news/ireland/simon-harris-legitimate-expectation-asylum-seekers-will-be-returned-to-uk-B7FA3VUMZRGY5MPLWXF7MMZACI/

Worth noting that the government in Ireland is pulling a bit of a fast one here. They admitted yesterday that they had no statistics or data on asylum seeker arrivals, and had just assumed they all asylum seekers who weren't claiming asylum at a port of entry (like Dublin Airport) must have come from the UK via Northern Ireland.

Of course, it suited the Tories to accept responsibility so they could claim it as evidence that Rwanda was working.

A parties of the right mutually satisfying 69.

Richard_Tyndall said:

Leon said:

Benpointer said:

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Outrageous! Don't you have a Press Pass?

I do have a press card but I can’t be arsed with the faff. From what I’ve read the abbey interior is not that special anyway - it’s all about the location

And now I’ve seen the location and the moment you finally approach the Mont is indeed very special and quite sublime. This majestic ensemble in grey gold stone, rising from the Normandy waters

After that it’s just massive crowds outside mediocre creperies. Mont St Michel can go fuck itself until they keep out the proles by charging €300 a day to people like me and only me

Tchoh!

I think they should start by banning journalists and travel writers. After all they just attract more of the proles.

Taz said:

Another sinner repenting on matters of gender

Starmer supports Rosie Duffield now however...

In 2021, the Labour leader had criticised Ms Duffield for saying that only women have a cervix, saying that her comment “is something that shouldn’t be said. It’s not right”.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rosie-duffield-right-to-say-only-women-have-a-cervix-says-starmer/ar-AA1nV79p?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e355acd57feb461fc92fab194b68f5c4&ei=30

Taz said:

CarlottaVance said:

Taz said:

Another sinner repenting on matters of gender

Starmer supports Rosie Duffield now however...

In 2021, the Labour leader had criticised Ms Duffield for saying that only women have a cervix, saying that her comment “is something that shouldn’t be said. It’s not right”.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rosie-duffield-right-to-say-only-women-have-a-cervix-says-starmer/ar-AA1nV79p?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e355acd57feb461fc92fab194b68f5c4&ei=30

Some left wing men have fallen into the same trap as Billy Bragg - if sex realists / gender critics include women like Kemi Badenoch they must be “wrong”, when a little thinking could go a long way.

We are seeing a flood of people changing their tune on this matter. Problem is people have kept the receipts. Whatever people think of Rosie Duffields views she was treated appallingly by Labour over it. Ostracised and abused by online TRA's for daring to challenge their orthodoxy.

People now changing their views because of the Cass report are just moral cowards. Weathervanes. It is not a case of changing views as the information had changed. It was all there in the first place.

Billy Bragg is just a prick. Mansplaining feminism to real feminists. Women be quiet. A man is speaking.

kjh said:

Leon said:

Benpointer said:

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Outrageous! Don't you have a Press Pass?

I do have a press card but I can’t be arsed with the faff. From what I’ve read the abbey interior is not that special anyway - it’s all about the location

And now I’ve seen the location and the moment you finally approach the Mont is indeed very special and quite sublime. This majestic ensemble in grey gold stone, rising from the Normandy waters

After that it’s just massive crowds outside mediocre creperies. Mont St Michel can go fuck itself until they keep out the proles by charging €300 a day to people like me and only me

Tchoh!

I did warn you a week or so ago when you said you were going. It is very commercialised. We basically cycled up to it. Admired it from our bikes and then went for a beer in one of the modern bars/restaurants on the path leading up to it.

As you say it is impressive to look at, but I couldn't be bothered to go in.

CarlottaVance said:

Taz said:

Another sinner repenting on matters of gender

Starmer supports Rosie Duffield now however...

In 2021, the Labour leader had criticised Ms Duffield for saying that only women have a cervix, saying that her comment “is something that shouldn’t be said. It’s not right”.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rosie-duffield-right-to-say-only-women-have-a-cervix-says-starmer/ar-AA1nV79p?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e355acd57feb461fc92fab194b68f5c4&ei=30

A lot of left wing men have fallen into the same trap as Billy Bragg - if sex realists / gender critics include women like Kemi Badenoch

Taz said:

CarlottaVance said:

Taz said:

Another sinner repenting on matters of gender

Starmer supports Rosie Duffield now however...

In 2021, the Labour leader had criticised Ms Duffield for saying that only women have a cervix, saying that her comment “is something that shouldn’t be said. It’s not right”.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rosie-duffield-right-to-say-only-women-have-a-cervix-says-starmer/ar-AA1nV79p?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e355acd57feb461fc92fab194b68f5c4&ei=30

Some left wing men have fallen into the same trap as Billy Bragg - if sex realists / gender critics include women like Kemi Badenoch they must be “wrong”, when a little thinking could go a long way.

We are seeing a flood of people changing their tune on this matter. Problem is people have kept the receipts. Whatever people think of Rosie Duffields views she was treated appallingly by Labour over it. Ostracised and abused by online TRA's for daring to challenge their orthodoxy.

People now changing their views because of the Cass report are just moral cowards. Weathervanes. It is not a case of changing views as the information had changed. It was all there in the first place.

Billy Bragg is just a prick. Mansplaining feminism to real feminists. Women be quiet. A man is speaking.

A classic example is Caroline Blokes who has purged her Twitter of all references to Trans - but there are interviews where she intoned the mantra TWAW.

viewcode said:

Taz said:

How the SNP broke Scotland, from the Telegraph. Obviously not the most balanced of takes. I presume the SNP did some good too .

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/how-the-snp-broke-scotland/ar-AA1nUzga?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=8e4caeb7eded4e7094361cd25036be45&ei=10

Interesting read, thank you. Here is a non-paywall link: https://archive.is/aK5dL

Malmesbury said:

Leon said:

Alphabet_Soup said:

Leon said:

Andy_JS said:

Leon said:

They will surely have to start charging simply to come here soon. As Venice has done

I believe ex-PBer @SeanT predicted this: fees simply to enter famous destinations, towns, islands - in a piece for the Spec in 2016

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/caught-in-the-tourist-trap/

“By the end of my autumnal travels, it occurred to me that there is one solution: the Bhutanese example. You ration travel, by time and money: you start to make people pay simply to get into cities, regions, nations”

I bow to no-one in my futurology and extrapolations, but that is notably prescient: as Venice starts to charge simply for Venice

Why should only wealthy people be able to travel to interesting places?

Because the places that everyone wants to go will have to be rationed SOMEHOW. Read that brilliantly prescient article by the much-missed @SeanT

The obvious way to ration them is by price - so that the money can be used to maintain the sites and bribe the locals to tolerate the influx

I guess you could ration them by lottery ticket but let’s face it that’s not going to happen. Humans are not that generous and also you need to recompense local traders who will lose from diminished custom

So yes travel to the really lovely places will be limited to rich people and professional travel writers. Good. Kick out all the smelly plebs, they’ve ruined Mont St Michel. I am already leaving. Ugh

Tried to get into the BM last week to see the Romans exhibition. Needless to say, being a scholar and a gent, I had not thought to buy a ticket in advance. I expect to walk in there at a time of my own choosing, with a polite nod on the way from a uniformed commissionaire. So I was unprepared to find the crowd in Gt Russell Street resembling the aftermath of a north-London derby, heaving blindly in all directions, bemoaning each other's presence in every known language except English. Any pretence that the BM is a place of learning or scholarship has long been abandoned. We may as well sell the Elgin Marbles to the Arabs and be done with them.

That could easily be fixed - if we want to keep the BM free - by making people book timed entrance online. Honestly, all these hugely popular places will have to ration entrance. Most will do it by money. Some by time

A billion Indians are about to start travelling. On top of a billion Chinese who are now on the move

Timed entrance is an excellent thing. I went to Rome with my wife a few years back. She really doesn't like what she calls "excessive planning".

For the Vatican Museum, we walked past the queue for about 45 minutes. The queues are so normal that they have slots in the pavement for the barriers to keep the line tidy and out of the way of people using the pavement for other reasons.

We walked straight in with our timed tickets.

Leon said:

Benpointer said:

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Outrageous! Don't you have a Press Pass?

I do have a press card but I can’t be arsed with the faff. From what I’ve read the abbey interior is not that special anyway - it’s all about the location

And now I’ve seen the location and the moment you finally approach the Mont is indeed very special and quite sublime. This majestic ensemble in grey gold stone, rising from the Normandy waters

After that it’s just massive crowds outside mediocre creperies. Mont St Michel can go fuck itself until they keep out the proles by charging €300 a day to people like me and only me

Tchoh!

StaffordKnot said:

I am astonished by how many of the parties are not running a full slate of candidates. Back in the day in Stafford and Cannock - before they became Tory strongholds - we always put up a full slate. We operated on the basis that if people got out of the habit of voting for us in the locals, they may not do so when the General Election came around.

BlancheLivermore said:

Leon said:

Benpointer said:

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Outrageous! Don't you have a Press Pass?

I do have a press card but I can’t be arsed with the faff. From what I’ve read the abbey interior is not that special anyway - it’s all about the location

And now I’ve seen the location and the moment you finally approach the Mont is indeed very special and quite sublime. This majestic ensemble in grey gold stone, rising from the Normandy waters

After that it’s just massive crowds outside mediocre creperies. Mont St Michel can go fuck itself until they keep out the proles by charging €300 a day to people like me and only me

Tchoh!

You needed to go to Mass for a full noom

Monks and nuns chanting beautifully in Latin really lifts the place

And you need some zen to do deal with those crowds, but it is so worth it

algarkirk said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Benpointer said:

Leon said:

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

TimS said:

boulay said:

Leon said:

Why the fuck is this UNESCO World Heritage Listed already, when the Jobbie building in Edinburgh, or the Holyrood Parliament masterpiece, have yet to even make the “tentative list”?!

And what about “the ensemble of Camden High
Street retail centre and its homeless tents”. Been waiting for status for yonks. Yet this crap, a couple of houses and a chapel on a muddy island? - the French bribe a couple of UNESCO dudes in Paris and bingo. Listed

Pff!

I remember going there as a young whipper-snapper and being given one of those big Franc notes that were like wrapping paper to occupy myself in the shops whilst my parents and their friends enjoyed post lunch drinks. I bought a comb that was made like a flick knife with a crocodile design handle. Obviously when I got home I took apart a real knife and replaced the comb and thought I was the nuts with my flick knife until my sister grassed me up and my parents confiscated it.

I’m not sure what connects flick-combs with Mont St Michel to warrant selling them there but maybe they were a thing with the monks for keeping their tonsures neat.

My only visit was ill-timed, on a peak day in summer when the place was heaving with tourists. Still beautiful especially from a distance but the magic is dimmed when you're struggling up the streets being elbowed by fellow visitors. I was told then that the best thing is to stay overnight, as in so many tourist honeypots, and I can well imagine on a quiet sunny evening once all the day trippers have gone it would be wonderful.

It’s fucking hideous. They should UNESCO list the tourist crowds. This is the queue just to get in the abbey

Outrageous! Don't you have a Press Pass?

I do have a press card but I can’t be arsed with the faff. From what I’ve read the abbey interior is not that special anyway - it’s all about the location

And now I’ve seen the location and the moment you finally approach the Mont is indeed very special and quite sublime. This majestic ensemble in grey gold stone, rising from the Normandy waters

After that it’s just massive crowds outside mediocre creperies. Mont St Michel can go fuck itself until they keep out the proles by charging €300 a day to people like me and only me

Tchoh!

I did warn you a week or so ago when you said you were going. It is very commercialised. We basically cycled up to it. Admired it from our bikes and then went for a beer in one of the modern bars/restaurants on the path leading up to it.

As you say it is impressive to look at, but I couldn't be bothered to go in.

At the other end of the scale we have recently seen the Ruthwell Cross (first visit since about 1977) and appeared to have been the only humans within about 5 miles. Noom factor lessened by the aesthetics of the Scottish kirk but still a miraculous survival from when Northumbria was at the apex of European civilization. And equally miraculously unlocked (though apparently usually locked, like Scottish churches are, key to be had from someone somewhere).

isam said:

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but do you think Sadiq Khan deliberately called Susan Hall ‘The Tory Candidate’ because she is more popular than the Tories in London?


Sadiq Khan confronted over people "running around with machetes" on the streets of London earlier this week:

“I think the Tory candidate should stop watching The Wire."



https://x.com/mrharrycole/status/1785279238410580151?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

Leon said:

Malmesbury said:

Leon said:

Alphabet_Soup said:

Leon said:

Andy_JS said:

Leon said:

They will surely have to start charging simply to come here soon. As Venice has done

I believe ex-PBer @SeanT predicted this: fees simply to enter famous destinations, towns, islands - in a piece for the Spec in 2016

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/caught-in-the-tourist-trap/

“By the end of my autumnal travels, it occurred to me that there is one solution: the Bhutanese example. You ration travel, by time and money: you start to make people pay simply to get into cities, regions, nations”

I bow to no-one in my futurology and extrapolations, but that is notably prescient: as Venice starts to charge simply for Venice

Why should only wealthy people be able to travel to interesting places?

Because the places that everyone wants to go will have to be rationed SOMEHOW. Read that brilliantly prescient article by the much-missed @SeanT

The obvious way to ration them is by price - so that the money can be used to maintain the sites and bribe the locals to tolerate the influx

I guess you could ration them by lottery ticket but let’s face it that’s not going to happen. Humans are not that generous and also you need to recompense local traders who will lose from diminished custom

So yes travel to the really lovely places will be limited to rich people and professional travel writers. Good. Kick out all the smelly plebs, they’ve ruined Mont St Michel. I am already leaving. Ugh

Tried to get into the BM last week to see the Romans exhibition. Needless to say, being a scholar and a gent, I had not thought to buy a ticket in advance. I expect to walk in there at a time of my own choosing, with a polite nod on the way from a uniformed commissionaire. So I was unprepared to find the crowd in Gt Russell Street resembling the aftermath of a north-London derby, heaving blindly in all directions, bemoaning each other's presence in every known language except English. Any pretence that the BM is a place of learning or scholarship has long been abandoned. We may as well sell the Elgin Marbles to the Arabs and be done with them.

That could easily be fixed - if we want to keep the BM free - by making people book timed entrance online. Honestly, all these hugely popular places will have to ration entrance. Most will do it by money. Some by time

A billion Indians are about to start travelling. On top of a billion Chinese who are now on the move

Timed entrance is an excellent thing. I went to Rome with my wife a few years back. She really doesn't like what she calls "excessive planning".

For the Vatican Museum, we walked past the queue for about 45 minutes. The queues are so normal that they have slots in the pavement for the barriers to keep the line tidy and out of the way of people using the pavement for other reasons.

We walked straight in with our timed tickets.

Even with timed entrance and premium tickets the Vatican museum is now horrific. Enormous crowds - potentially dangerous - squeezing past all that remarkable art. It’s sad. I experienced it last year

About 25 years ago I remember being the ONLY person in the Stanze of Raphael looking at The School of Athens. Unthinkable now

So even tho they are charging they will simply have to charge more and more until the crowds finally dwindle and it becomes tolerable again

And thus travel returns to what it was: the indulgence of the wealthy

Can’t wait

isam said:

CarlottaVance said:

Susannah Reid giving SKS a tough time on gender & single sex wards:

https://x.com/gmb/status/1785212404416000254

Bad morning for him. I can’t help but think that when public see more of him, he could mess this up

Stark_Dawning said:

isam said:

CarlottaVance said:

Susannah Reid giving SKS a tough time on gender & single sex wards:

https://x.com/gmb/status/1785212404416000254

Bad morning for him. I can’t help but think that when public see more of him, he could mess this up

What could be dangerous is that Rishi makes some headway on the economy and Rwanda and then starts successfully spinning himself as Britain's 'Comeback Kid'. I think elements of Labour and the Left might start spreading panic at that point - either out of genuinely concern or devilry - and Sir Keir might seriously feel the pressure.

SandyRentool said:

isam said:

Sir Keir will fall apart under scrutiny in the campaign debates.

I think Madeley is quite a good interviewer, plenty don’t, but could the Labour leader look any more shifty and evasive here? The blinking, the Partridge smirk, the repetition. So evasive

https://youtu.be/CbnyjcYGw_M?si=5G_k2NaUauMjD72L

But he's up against Sunak. And Davey. And TBC from the SNP.

So he'll look like a titan.

williamglenn said:

isam said:

Sir Keir will fall apart under scrutiny in the campaign debates.

I think Madeley is quite a good interviewer, plenty don’t, but could the Labour leader look any more shifty and evasive here? The blinking, the Partridge smirk, the repetition. So evasive

https://youtu.be/CbnyjcYGw_M?si=5G_k2NaUauMjD72L

That’s appalling: “legal advices”?

Pulpstar said:

Off topic - What is it with HMRC Government Gateway IDs and seperate logins for stuff both business and personal.

Just amended something with the Deferment/CDS, but had to use a login which I randomly googled rather than the "main" VAT portal, even though there's stuff about DAN within the VAT login.

Similiar for taxation and the childcare system personally (Different login pages, same ID & password for both)- government systems really should have a single login for a single gateway ID !

I expect it's similar for universal credit and so on.

williamglenn said:

isam said:

Sir Keir will fall apart under scrutiny in the campaign debates.

I think Madeley is quite a good interviewer, plenty don’t, but could the Labour leader look any more shifty and evasive here? The blinking, the Partridge smirk, the repetition. So evasive

https://youtu.be/CbnyjcYGw_M?si=5G_k2NaUauMjD72L

That’s appalling: “legal advices”?

SonofContrarian said:

I'm not sure what's more annoying.. MoonRabbits hopeless election predictions..or Leon's desire for travel restrictions for the poor..🤨

LostPassword said:

It has been said that one contributory factor to May's disastrous 2017GE campaign was the terrorist attacks that occurred. There's an obvious parallel with today's horrific knife attack in North London for Thursday's Mayoral election.

Might Khan lose?

Nigelb said:

AI-enabled electrocardiography alert intervention and all-cause mortality: a pragmatic randomized clinical trial

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-02961-4
The early identification of vulnerable patients has the potential to improve outcomes but poses a substantial challenge in clinical practice. This study evaluated the ability of an artificial intelligence (AI)-enabled electrocardiogram (ECG) to identify hospitalized patients with a high risk of mortality in a multisite randomized controlled trial involving 39 physicians and 15,965 patients. The AI-ECG alert intervention included an AI report and warning messages delivered to the physicians, flagging patients predicted to be at high risk of mortality. The trial met its primary outcome, finding that implementation of the AI-ECG alert was associated with a significant reduction in all-cause mortality within 90 days: 3.6% patients in the intervention group died within 90 days, compared to 4.3% in the control group (4.3%) (hazard ratio (HR) = 0.83, 95% confidence interval (CI) = 0.70–0.99). A prespecified analysis showed that reduction in all-cause mortality associated with the AI-ECG alert was observed primarily in patients with high-risk ECGs (HR = 0.69, 95% CI = 0.53–0.90). In analyses of secondary outcomes, patients in the intervention group with high-risk ECGs received increased levels of intensive care compared to the control group; for the high-risk ECG group of patients, implementation of the AI-ECG alert was associated with a significant reduction in the risk of cardiac death (0.2% in the intervention arm versus 2.4% in the control arm, HR = 0.07, 95% CI = 0.01–0.56). While the precise means by which implementation of the AI-ECG alert led to decreased mortality are to be fully elucidated, these results indicate that such implementation assists in the detection of high-risk patients, prompting timely clinical care and reducing mortality.

Andy_JS said:

LostPassword said:

It has been said that one contributory factor to May's disastrous 2017GE campaign was the terrorist attacks that occurred. There's an obvious parallel with today's horrific knife attack in North London for Thursday's Mayoral election.

Might Khan lose?

I can't believe anyone would change their vote based on an isolated incident like this, maybe some do.

Mexicanpete said:

isam said:

williamglenn said:

isam said:

Sir Keir will fall apart under scrutiny in the campaign debates.

I think Madeley is quite a good interviewer, plenty don’t, but could the Labour leader look any more shifty and evasive here? The blinking, the Partridge smirk, the repetition. So evasive

https://youtu.be/CbnyjcYGw_M?si=5G_k2NaUauMjD72L

That’s appalling: “legal advices”?

It seems to me as though he is preparing to have clean hands if Rayner is in trouble, by saying he believes her and doesn't need to look at the evidence. This way he can pile the blame on her whilst making himself look like a good boss who trusts his team but has been let down

It would be interesting if Watson lays charges on Rayner tomorrow. That would be optimal timing for the elections.

IanB2 said:

MattW said:

IanB2 said:

It looks like the mini-heatwave here ends tomorrow, so a lazy morning in the garden with a book and the Post Office inquiry for company…

That dog wants a walk.

When it’s cooler - it’s high 20s out there right now