LAB majority hits new high in the general election betting – politicalbetting.com
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Compare that to the actual result in 1997, which in terms of uniform swing would translate to 10% Con to Lab and 5% Con to LD.Chris said:
It is amazing. In terms of uniform swing, it would be 17% Con to Lab and 8% Con to LD. But in a situation where antipathy to the Tories is the dominant driver, tactical voting will inevitably make that much worse for the Tories in Con/LD marginals.Sunil_Prasannan said:Have we done YouGov yet?
LAB: 46% (-1)
CON: 24% (+2)
LDM: 10% (-1)
RFM: 8% (+1)
GRN: 7% (-1)
SNP: 3% (=)
Via @YouGov, 27-28 Jun.
Changes w/ 20-21 Jun.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/16744135013628887040 -
Of course!Sandpit said:
You’ll be there on Sunday bemoaning the boring Boycott style, and shouting at them to go back to Bazball!Leon said:
Actually I love bazball. Usually. Fast hard aggressive cricket. Smack the shyte out of itDougSeal said:
A man who likes his politics as entertaining and his sport as boring as possible.Leon said:Fucksake England. Time to start batting like Boycott
This sentiment is entirely unrelated to my possession of a ticket for the fifth day at Lord’s
Just not this test, thanks
Looks like a nice warm sunny day, too
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I think one can understand, if not agree, with some of the ideas behind affirmative action following the Civil Rights Act, but even many of those who advocated for it at the time, now say it’s better to be colour blind.Leon said:
Affirmative action, as it has evolved, has become absolutely racistSandpit said:
And Trump will be taking the credit, with his appointments to the Supreme Court. Asian-American communities have been lobbying hard against this racism for years.Leon said:
Asian Americans are deliberately marked down on “likeability” and “sociability” - because they are often more introverted, scholastic and hard working - so the universities can let in more black Americans with much lower SAT scores than Asians
How can that possibly be acceptable? Outright racism. SCOTUS has made the correct decision
If black activist groups want to see more of their groups in college, then concentrate more on schools and home environments, rather than artificially gaming the college admissions process.
It does get horribly messy and politically charged very quickly though, as does anything regarding race in the US.0 -
George Eustice in Times Radio's excellent Exit Interviews series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4vRtExR680 -
Oh FFS0
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Actually, for quite a lot of science.JosiasJessop said:
"If the file is just a pile of random numbers"...Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It's probably just some of my code.
(Actually, truly random numbers can be rather valuable. Just say you're working for GCHQ...)1 -
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Braindead ball.0
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Unfortunately, you can't pay for a lawsuit, since we have just withdrawn all your banking facilities. Signed "The Nick Palmer Conspiracy"NickPalmer said:
Can I sue for personation???Selebian said:S&A postal vote has arrived. There's a Nick Palmer (Ind) on the candidate list. Now, I'm not saying it's the @NickPalmer , but...
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Duckett you tw@. You could have been Ben Centuryett!
So close to having your name on that board. Helmet on and head down, walking through the Long Room.0 -
Looks like the difference is batting discipline. Positive is good, but make it controlled positive!0
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Yes. Having just toured some very racially sensitive parts of America - Monticello! Antietam! Alexandria! - I hope I understand, better, the urge to right the evils of the past. But reverse racism against whites and Asians really isn’t the way to do it, not any more - and, as I say, affirmative action is also pragmatically pernicious and corrosive of the American university systemSandpit said:
I think one can understand, if not agree, with some of the ideas behind affirmative action following the Civil Rights Act, but even many of those who advocated for it at the time, now say it’s better to be colour blind.Leon said:
Affirmative action, as it has evolved, has become absolutely racistSandpit said:
And Trump will be taking the credit, with his appointments to the Supreme Court. Asian-American communities have been lobbying hard against this racism for years.Leon said:
Asian Americans are deliberately marked down on “likeability” and “sociability” - because they are often more introverted, scholastic and hard working - so the universities can let in more black Americans with much lower SAT scores than Asians
How can that possibly be acceptable? Outright racism. SCOTUS has made the correct decision
If black activist groups want to see more of their groups in college, then concentrate more on schools and home environments, rather than artificially gaming the college admissions process.
It does get horribly messy and politically charged very quickly though, as does anything regarding race in the US.0 -
There won’t be a fifth day, will there? Sigh0
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We need rain0
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“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”Sandpit said:
Watching politicians continually attempting to ban mathematics, would be very funny if it wasn’t so damn serious.Flatlander said:
Of course, it wouldn't even have to be a file as you can store data without a file system.Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It might be an unused partition that you wiped with random data and someone takes a dislike to.
There's a lot of failure to understand technicalities when it comes to legislation. Look at this plan to break end to end encryption that keeps coming back.
Combined with people losing social credit - which is essentially what this is about - it really isn't good.
An actual person said that. Capable of breathing on their own and everything.
It comes back to a legalistic view of the universe.
The law in preeminent. If the law issues a warrant to get information, then it must be obtained. Anything that blocks that is obviously an Obstruction Of Justice. If someone has a safe with information in it, the court can order it opened. An un-openable safe is, a pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.
Therefore end to end encryption is nothing less than a wholesale, pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.1 -
Not sure we will have to face the new ball.
Maybe we will declare soon 😈0 -
We need two hours of tediousness. Cmon England0
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2140747-laws-of-mathematics-dont-apply-here-says-australian-pm/Malmesbury said:
“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”Sandpit said:
Watching politicians continually attempting to ban mathematics, would be very funny if it wasn’t so damn serious.Flatlander said:
Of course, it wouldn't even have to be a file as you can store data without a file system.Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It might be an unused partition that you wiped with random data and someone takes a dislike to.
There's a lot of failure to understand technicalities when it comes to legislation. Look at this plan to break end to end encryption that keeps coming back.
Combined with people losing social credit - which is essentially what this is about - it really isn't good.
An actual person said that. Capable of breathing on their own and everything.
It comes back to a legalistic view of the universe.
The law in preeminent. If the law issues a warrant to get information, then it must be obtained. Anything that blocks that is obviously an Obstruction Of Justice. If someone has a safe with information in it, the court can order it opened. An un-openable safe is, a pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.
Therefore end to end encryption is nothing less than a wholesale, pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.0 -
For fans of ancient history, cats, and puns.
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Serendipitously, five minutes in, Eustice talks about hiding David Cameron's helicopter flight from the press.DecrepiterJohnL said:George Eustice in Times Radio's excellent Exit Interviews series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4vRtExR68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4vRtExR68&t=610s
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It was going fine until DavidL said on the last thread that Aus had no plan beyond banging it in short.
All out for under 300 now nailed on.0 -
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Otoh, it would probably not be a successful defence against possession of illegal porn to argue the file in question was merely the binary representation of your favourite large number.Carnyx said:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2140747-laws-of-mathematics-dont-apply-here-says-australian-pm/Malmesbury said:
“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”Sandpit said:
Watching politicians continually attempting to ban mathematics, would be very funny if it wasn’t so damn serious.Flatlander said:
Of course, it wouldn't even have to be a file as you can store data without a file system.Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It might be an unused partition that you wiped with random data and someone takes a dislike to.
There's a lot of failure to understand technicalities when it comes to legislation. Look at this plan to break end to end encryption that keeps coming back.
Combined with people losing social credit - which is essentially what this is about - it really isn't good.
An actual person said that. Capable of breathing on their own and everything.
It comes back to a legalistic view of the universe.
The law in preeminent. If the law issues a warrant to get information, then it must be obtained. Anything that blocks that is obviously an Obstruction Of Justice. If someone has a safe with information in it, the court can order it opened. An un-openable safe is, a pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.
Therefore end to end encryption is nothing less than a wholesale, pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.1 -
Why is Smith so weirdly annoying. It’s not just the cheating0
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For anyone annoyed by bazball I think two things need to be remembered. The 2005 side played a version of bazball - 400 on the first day at Edgebaston and a generally aggressive style. It’s also seen us turn around a run of one win in 17 into 11 from 13.
I also remember many timid, cowed Engalnd sides who would still lose, just without any fight, and certainly a lot less fun.
Remember we are playing the best team in the world. I would have taken the current match situation at stumps last night.
And Lyon looks to have torn a calf muscle, so is likely out for the rest of this match and possibly the next too.1 -
I don’t think many on here are bemoaning bazball. It’s fantastic entertainment. It’s just me moaning that I won’t get any fifth day actionturbotubbs said:For anyone annoyed by bazball I think two things need to be remembered. The 2005 side played a version of bazball - 400 on the first day at Edgebaston and a generally aggressive style. It’s also seen us turn around a run of one win in 17 into 11 from 13.
I also remember many timid, cowed Engalnd sides who would still lose, just without any fight, and certainly a lot less fun.
Remember we are playing the best team in the world. I would have taken the current match situation at stumps last night.
And Lyon looks to have torn a calf muscle, so is likely out for the rest of this match and possibly the next too.0 -
Interesting rise, given several of the GOP front runners are pretty lukewarm on the subject. Of course, it may have been down to the CIA inspired mutiny or something.
Solid majorities of Americans support providing weaponry to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia and believe that such aid demonstrates to China and other U.S. rivals a will to protect U.S. interests and allies, according to a Reuters/Ipsos survey.
The two-day poll that was concluded on Tuesday charted a sharp rise in backing for arming Ukraine, with 65% of the respondents approving of the shipments compared with 46% in a May poll.
https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/3 -
You are, with self interest, but others have too when players get out. They seem to want the attacking style but not getting out to loose shots. It’s difficult to have both.Leon said:
I don’t think many on here are bemoaning bazball. It’s fantastic entertainment. It’s just me moaning that I won’t get any fifth day actionturbotubbs said:For anyone annoyed by bazball I think two things need to be remembered. The 2005 side played a version of bazball - 400 on the first day at Edgebaston and a generally aggressive style. It’s also seen us turn around a run of one win in 17 into 11 from 13.
I also remember many timid, cowed Engalnd sides who would still lose, just without any fight, and certainly a lot less fun.
Remember we are playing the best team in the world. I would have taken the current match situation at stumps last night.
And Lyon looks to have torn a calf muscle, so is likely out for the rest of this match and possibly the next too.0 -
And so we collapse0
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No! Touched the turf!0
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But Epurrialtes might still have betrayed himTheScreamingEagles said:For fans of ancient history, cats, and puns.
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Winviz is bollocks.....a few minutes had England at 50% to win.
There is no way when you are still 200+ run behind in a 1st innings against 400+ & going to have to bat last you are 50% to win.0 -
It is more that Australia seem to have found a really poor tactic to squash Bazball and England are falling into the trap.turbotubbs said:For anyone annoyed by bazball I think two things need to be remembered. The 2005 side played a version of bazball - 400 on the first day at Edgebaston and a generally aggressive style. It’s also seen us turn around a run of one win in 17 into 11 from 13.
I also remember many timid, cowed Engalnd sides who would still lose, just without any fight, and certainly a lot less fun.
Remember we are playing the best team in the world. I would have taken the current match situation at stumps last night.
And Lyon looks to have torn a calf muscle, so is likely out for the rest of this match and possibly the next too.0 -
Rooted.0
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That touched the grass!0
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Stop going after short balls!1
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That looked a pretty poor decision.0
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England throwing their wickets away0
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It not exactly as if it a super secret surprise plan being enacted here.kle4 said:Stop going after short balls!
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I'd suggest something like changing the law so that tipping off rules can only apply for a maximum of 3 months and only up to account closure.eek said:
That's the problem with CIFAS markers (and many other things). you can't say anything about why the issue is occurring for want of ending up with criminal charges yourself (extreme example but there are numerous examples of people revealing things at banks (even unwittingly) only to discover they are out due to gross misconduct)..noneoftheabove said:
That doesn't actually sound that onerous. Far worse is if they refuse to tell you why it is blocked or how to unblock it.ClippP said:
Closing them, Mr Farage, or just blocking them? Lots of people have them blocked, and then have to turn up in person at their branch to get them unblocked. Wherever that nearest branch happens to be these days.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
That is the real scandal.
Lets face it, anyone doing anything deliberately dodgy who gets their account suspended is already tipped off by the time their account gets investigated/frozen regardless of what a bank employee does anyway.0 -
Fuck this. Smith is a cheating bastard0
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While we are on sport Mason Mount signs for Manchester United for 60 million0
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I wonder if that had been given not out, if the 3rd umpire would have overturned it? Was very close to grounded.0
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We always knew Bazball would face a great testing moment against the Australians. It mostly held up in the first Test despite the stupid declaration and the tight loss.
But they seem to be a bit in love with trying to get into their opponents' heads, and instead just mess up their own. The Aussies aren't getting rattled, so just dial it back 2-3 notches.0 -
Good value but struggling to see Bruno, Mount and Rashford in the same side and getting the best out of any of them.Big_G_NorthWales said:While we are on sport Mason Mount signs for Manchester United for 60 million
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England will be lucky to make 300 now. Fifth day receding into lala land
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Put money down now on Stokes going for less than 10 in the next 20 minutes, trying a hoick.0
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The S&A Conservative campaign team do seem to like going around in a big group.
https://twitter.com/GregHands/status/1674433316228059140
The Garden Centre is silver surfer central in the daytime on a week day, so would be interesting to see how they got on there - should be a lot of Con voters, but you'd hope they'd also be knocking people up in less fruitful areas0 -
Well that is upto the manager to be fairnoneoftheabove said:
Good value but struggling to see Bruno, Mount and Rashford in the same side and getting the best out of any of them.Big_G_NorthWales said:While we are on sport Mason Mount signs for Manchester United for 60 million
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England could have just absorbed the short balls and worn out the bowlers
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All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.0
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Difference between Australia having 90 mph bowlers who can hurry you up with the short ball vs "enforcer" 78mph Robinson.....0
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I hate to keep this conversation going after so long, but at least it's more interesting than the circket...Mexicanpete said:
Without Hands's Tweet ProudGranny24 wouldn't have brought the Guardian article up again and reminded us Starmer takes the Train whilst Sunak (has in the recent past) let the RAF take the strain.JosiasJessop said:
You mean Greg Hands' tweet today caused the Guardian to write an article last month? My goodness, Hands has an amazing temporal power!Mexicanpete said:
Sunak's travel arrangements were highlighted for debate by Hands's ridiculous Tweet and the comedic and ironic reaction thereof.JosiasJessop said:
That seems a rather odd thing to say. And you've obviously missed the other times Sunak's travel arrangements have been cricitised.Mexicanpete said:
I think you might have missed the point.JosiasJessop said:This 'PM flies in helicopter; LOTO takes the train" seems a little like nonsense. A PM does have rather more to do than a LOTO. Like run the country.
I look forward to PM Starmer never flying around the country in a helicopter. They even did a portrait of Blair in one:
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw135230/Tony-Blair-Helicopter-Flight-from-RAF-Lyneham-to-Battersea
Or this:
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/blair-talks-uk-economy-flying-2913702
Or this:
https://www.halesowennews.co.uk/news/1397294.prime-minister-tony-blair-drops-in-on-halesowen-school/
etc, etc.
The one who has pulled his own pants down and given himself a good spanking is Greg Hands by his Tweet. Without Hands's Tweet Sunak wouldn't have been brought into the ironic comedy.
Keep up!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/09/sunak-helicopter-train-southampton-prime-minister-rail
(To be clear; Sunak's travel arrangements were obviously up for debate well before Hands' tweet.)
And as to your "well Blair did it" defence. I don't believe that particular warmonger has been PM for almost two decades.
Do you agree with the Guardian article's premise?0 -
Would be an overreaction, their record since he took over speaks for itself. But Steven Finn is right the Aussies have taken on the ego of the England batters. They are in England's heads, not the other way around. And since they are a better side, that's damaging.kinabalu said:All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.
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England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....0
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Have you ever met a sports fan that doesn’t claim ridiculous amounts of expertise?!Farooq said:
It's honestly a wonder you're not out there batting, you seem to be an expert.Leon said:England could have just absorbed the short balls and worn out the bowlers
Pfff
It’s the very definition. It’s what makes sport fun. You shout at the TV “you’re playing like a pathetic girl, I could do better than this” and of course you’re shouting at a professional athlete who is actually 70,000 times better than you0 -
Swinging at every high ball. STOP0
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Stokes deserves better support than all the moaning on here when things aren't going well. Absolutely earnt it over his captaincy.kinabalu said:All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.
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I know why they do it nowadays, but I always liked it when they didn’t sell Day 5 tickets in advance.Leon said:England will be lucky to make 300 now. Fifth day receding into lala land
Fuck it I’ll have a picnic instead
You’d watch the 3rd and 4th days of the match, franticatally calling friends to see if was worth staying up all night driving to a random city, to stand in a queue as the sun came up, hoping to get in a good seat for your fiver, and be on the beers by breakfast time. Many such days spent as skint students, enjoying the camaraderie of a crowd we couldn’t afford to be in otherwise.1 -
I mean, that’s ridiculous1
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Must have reached our quota of wankers.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
Bye Nige....0 -
He might come and join you in the South of France....Roger said:
Must have reached our quota of wankers.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
Bye Nige....0 -
The pandemic was a good example, of the inability of lawyers and lawmakers to understand simple science.Malmesbury said:
“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”Sandpit said:
Watching politicians continually attempting to ban mathematics, would be very funny if it wasn’t so damn serious.Flatlander said:
Of course, it wouldn't even have to be a file as you can store data without a file system.Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It might be an unused partition that you wiped with random data and someone takes a dislike to.
There's a lot of failure to understand technicalities when it comes to legislation. Look at this plan to break end to end encryption that keeps coming back.
Combined with people losing social credit - which is essentially what this is about - it really isn't good.
An actual person said that. Capable of breathing on their own and everything.
It comes back to a legalistic view of the universe.
The law in preeminent. If the law issues a warrant to get information, then it must be obtained. Anything that blocks that is obviously an Obstruction Of Justice. If someone has a safe with information in it, the court can order it opened. An un-openable safe is, a pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.
Therefore end to end encryption is nothing less than a wholesale, pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.0 -
He'd earned benefit of the doubt for his approach and tactics. That doesn't mean players throwing their wickets away in the face of an obvious wicket trap is above criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Stokes deserves better support than all the moaning on here when things aren't going well. Absolutely earnt it over his captaincy.kinabalu said:All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.
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It's not just that, it's the injury to Lyon. That totally changes the outlook of this innings. Not having their first choice spinner means they won't be able to rotate the quicks from the other end. So, bat long enough, and the quicks will tire.kle4 said:
He'd earned benefit of the doubt for his approach and tactics. That doesn't mean players throwing their wickets away in the face of an obvious wicket trap is above criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Stokes deserves better support than all the moaning on here when things aren't going well. Absolutely earnt it over his captaincy.kinabalu said:All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.
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Also add in England are a batter light with the current lineup.tlg86 said:
It's not just that, it's the injury to Lyon. That totally changes the outlook of this innings. Not having their first choice spinner means they won't be able to rotate the quicks from the other end. So, bat long enough, and the quicks will tire.kle4 said:
He'd earned benefit of the doubt for his approach and tactics. That doesn't mean players throwing their wickets away in the face of an obvious wicket trap is above criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Stokes deserves better support than all the moaning on here when things aren't going well. Absolutely earnt it over his captaincy.kinabalu said:All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.
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Stokes seems to be in "thou shall not pass" mode.0
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Absolutely we need no more wickets tonight!FrancisUrquhart said:Stokes seems to be in "thou shall not pass" mode.
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Harry Brook didn't get the memo....londonpubman said:
Absolutely we need no more wickets tonight!FrancisUrquhart said:Stokes seems to be in "thou shall not pass" mode.
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Benefit of the doubt? He took over a downtrodden, negative, lost and completely demotivated side and won 11/15 tests so far playing the most attacking test cricket ever played with largely the same players. If he wins this test he will be in the top 10 for most England test wins as captain already and has barely started.kle4 said:
He'd earned benefit of the doubt for his approach and tactics. That doesn't mean players throwing their wickets away in the face of an obvious wicket trap is above criticism.noneoftheabove said:
Stokes deserves better support than all the moaning on here when things aren't going well. Absolutely earnt it over his captaincy.kinabalu said:All the traditionalists just waiting to pounce on Stokes if we lose this test.
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“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”Sandpit said:
Watching politicians continually attempting to ban mathematics, would be very funny if it wasn’t so damn serious.Flatlander said:
Of course, it wouldn't even have to be a file as you can store data without a file system.Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It might be an unused partition that you wiped with random data and someone takes a dislike to.
There's a lot of failure to understand technicalities when it comes to legislation. Look at this plan to break end to end encryption that keeps coming back.
Combined with people losing social credit - which is essentially what this is about - it really isn't good.
An actual person said that. Capable of breathing on their own and everything.
The refusal of the COVID virus to obey the law demonstrates the threat it poses to society.Sandpit said:
The pandemic was a good example, of the inability of lawyers and lawmakers to understand simple science.Malmesbury said:
“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.”Sandpit said:
Watching politicians continually attempting to ban mathematics, would be very funny if it wasn’t so damn serious.Flatlander said:
Of course, it wouldn't even have to be a file as you can store data without a file system.Malmesbury said:
Another fun one. The police search the hard drive of your computer. They find a file they can't open - appears to be gibberish. They claim it is password protected and demand the key.TheScreamingEagles said:
Except they first came for many ordinary plebs over the last few years.Sandpit said:
First they came for Nigel Farage, and I said nothing ‘cos I don’t like Nigel Farage…Malmesbury said:
One one level yes. On another level, a very effective way of shutting down someones life.DougSeal said:
Weird way of forcing someone out of the country.Andy_JS said:Extraordinary claim by Farage.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1674357026921623552
"Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The establishment are trying to force me out of the UK by closing my bank accounts. I have been given no explanation or recourse as to why this is happening to me. This is serious political persecution at the very highest level of our system. If they can do it to me, they can do it to you too"
While I despise the man, the way that you can be black balled (ha!) without explanation and very little recourse from any bank is concerning. Especially since it doesn't have to be hard evidence based.
A further concern is that this is often outsourced to third parties. With the result that multiple banks and card issuers are using the same system to identify "problem customers".
So a provider of anti-fraud data decides that all seals in the legal profession are dodgy. Maybe a childhood trauma involving the zoo and a writ?
Suddenly, your bank accounts are shut down. Your car loan is recalled. Your mortgage....
Not providing the key, when asked under legal sanction is a crime.
Forgot the key - no defence? Never had the key - good luck....
If the file is just a pile of random numbers - you will have to prove that.
It might be an unused partition that you wiped with random data and someone takes a dislike to.
There's a lot of failure to understand technicalities when it comes to legislation. Look at this plan to break end to end encryption that keeps coming back.
Combined with people losing social credit - which is essentially what this is about - it really isn't good.
An actual person said that. Capable of breathing on their own and everything.
It comes back to a legalistic view of the universe.
The law in preeminent. If the law issues a warrant to get information, then it must be obtained. Anything that blocks that is obviously an Obstruction Of Justice. If someone has a safe with information in it, the court can order it opened. An un-openable safe is, a pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.
Therefore end to end encryption is nothing less than a wholesale, pre-emptive Obstruction Of Justice.2 -
I don't know how bitter UK judicial dissents are, but ones in the US Supreme Court are pretty blistering. Though in this decision today about affirmative action in college admissions this part of the main judgement complaining about what the dissent is doing does seem like it applies pretty broadly to the whole sorry lot of them.
The principal dissent wrenches our case law from its con-text, going to lengths to ignore the parts of that law it does not like
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/20-1199_hgdj.pdf
Of course, I am taking it out of context itself.0 -
Re: today's SCOTUS 6-2 decision (Justice Brown Jackson recused herself) in Harvard case, striking down affirmative action in truck down affirmative action in college admissions, this may NOT be as electorally significant as some PBers seem to be suggesting.
Why? Because quite unlike the Dobbs decision, this ruling does NOT overturn decades of established SCOTUS precedent established by Roe v. Wade.
Instead, today's decision essentially conforms the Court's thinking, tendency & trend on this issue. Thus lacks the shock & awe character of Dobbs.
Indeed, few SCOTUS decisions, even higly-significant ones, achieve THAT level of electoral impact, historically-speaking.
Which is NOT to say zero impact; as noted Asians are likely (mostly) to be pleased, Blacks & Latinos less so. But think it's a stretch to assume that its gonna switch huge number of votes.
So notion that Trump will now lose Florida because of it, is dubious on its face - even IF you assume that he's got a lock on the GOP nomination for 2024. 9Which I for one do not.)
Also, am puzzled by viewcode's assertion that Hispanics in Northeast are more pro-Trump than other parts of USA. Because I do NOT believe that's true. Seeing as how
> biggest demographic factor withing Latino voter community re: views on Trump is NOT geography, but instead religion, with evangelicals and other religious conservatives being more likely to back him.
> other factor is national origin/heritage, with Cuban Americans (still) more likely to be both Republicans and pro-Trump than other Latino groups
> as for geography, think that Latinos in Florida are way more likely to be Trump voters, that those in Northeastern Seaboard, largely due to Cuban concentration; worth noting that even among Cubans, those in Sunshine state are more conservative in their voting than Cubans in New Jersey, which has a bunch.
HOWEVER, we shall see . . .2 -
Winviz is as accurate as a Scottish sub sample.FrancisUrquhart said:England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....
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If England lose another wicket or two tonight it will suddenly swing to Australia 80% to win....as if the possibility of two quick wickets in cricket are as unexpected as Tory GE win in 2024.TheScreamingEagles said:
Winviz is as accurate as a Scottish sub sample.FrancisUrquhart said:England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....
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As an outsider, I agree. Not much electoral impact either way. It will annoy hardcore liberals and the NYT - and really please some aspiring Asian families - but most of the country will shrug and think SCOTUS has a pointSeaShantyIrish2 said:Re: today's SCOTUS 6-2 decision (Justice Brown Jackson recused herself) in Harvard case, striking down affirmative action in truck down affirmative action in college admissions, this may NOT be as electorally significant as some PBers seem to be suggesting.
Why? Because quite unlike the Dobbs decision, this ruling does NOT overturn decades of established SCOTUS precedent established by Roe v. Wade.
Instead, today's decision essentially conforms the Court's thinking, tendency & trend on this issue. Thus lacks the shock & awe character of Dobbs.
Indeed, few SCOTUS decisions, even higly-significant ones, achieve THAT level of electoral impact, historically-speaking.
Which is NOT to say zero impact; as noted Asians are likely (mostly) to be pleased, Blacks & Latinos less so. But think it's a stretch to assume that its gonna switch huge number of votes.
So notion that Trump will now lose Florida because of it, is dubious on its face - even IF you assume that he's got a lock on the GOP nomination for 2024. 9Which I for one do not.)
Also, am puzzled by viewcode's assertion that Hispanics in Northeast are more pro-Trump than other parts of USA. Because I do NOT believe that's true. Seeing as how
> biggest demographic factor withing Latino voter community re: views on Trump is NOT geography, but instead religion, with evangelicals and other religious conservatives being more likely to back him.
> other factor is national origin/heritage, with Cuban Americans (still) more likely to be both Republicans and pro-Trump than other Latino groups
> as for geography, think that Latinos in Florida are way more likely to be Trump voters, that those in Northeastern Seaboard, largely due to Cuban concentration; worth noting that even among Cubans, those in Sunshine state are more conservative in their voting than Cubans in New Jersey, which has a bunch.
HOWEVER, we shall see . . .2 -
Winviz is just a bit of fun. At this stage of tech development. Treat it as suchFrancisUrquhart said:
If England lose another wicket or two tonight it will suddenly swing to Australia 80% to win....as if the possibility of two quick wickets in cricket are as unexpected as Tory GE win in 2024.TheScreamingEagles said:
Winviz is as accurate as a Scottish sub sample.FrancisUrquhart said:England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....
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Totall off topic....how has Castore come from nowhere to be absolutely everywhere in sport in matter of a few years? I don't think i watch a sporting event without them being a sponsor / clothing provider.0
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The company behind it are rapidly growing & make good money out of analytics to professional teams...its most certainly not supposed to be just a bit of fun. It supposed to be a public example of the quality of their tech in the way YouGov make their money out of analytics for companies but show they know what they are doing by political pollling.Leon said:
Winviz is just a bit of fun. At this stage of tech development. Treat it as suchFrancisUrquhart said:
If England lose another wicket or two tonight it will suddenly swing to Australia 80% to win....as if the possibility of two quick wickets in cricket are as unexpected as Tory GE win in 2024.TheScreamingEagles said:
Winviz is as accurate as a Scottish sub sample.FrancisUrquhart said:England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....
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I'm 95% sure this must be a joke, so there's no need to get into a woke debate or anything about approved terminology, but I had to share this solely on the basis that I am fascinated by the process by which I would be expected regularly check with people what term they would prefer here.
https://twitter.com/LeoKearse/status/1674368678832242692/photo/20 -
But, as you rightly point out, its predictions are often - generally? - either laughable or obviousFrancisUrquhart said:
The company behind it are rapidly growing & make good money out of analytics to professional teams...its most certainly not supposed to be just a bit of fun.Leon said:
Winviz is just a bit of fun. At this stage of tech development. Treat it as suchFrancisUrquhart said:
If England lose another wicket or two tonight it will suddenly swing to Australia 80% to win....as if the possibility of two quick wickets in cricket are as unexpected as Tory GE win in 2024.TheScreamingEagles said:
Winviz is as accurate as a Scottish sub sample.FrancisUrquhart said:England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....
However the tech will improve, I am sure0 -
Most of the team are learning Bazball - he was born in it.FrancisUrquhart said:
Harry Brook didn't get the memo....londonpubman said:
Absolutely we need no more wickets tonight!FrancisUrquhart said:Stokes seems to be in "thou shall not pass" mode.
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I bet if StarLizard did cricket it would be a tad better.....the tech is out there.Leon said:
But, as you rightly point out, its predictions are often - generally? - either laughable or obviousFrancisUrquhart said:
The company behind it are rapidly growing & make good money out of analytics to professional teams...its most certainly not supposed to be just a bit of fun.Leon said:
Winviz is just a bit of fun. At this stage of tech development. Treat it as suchFrancisUrquhart said:
If England lose another wicket or two tonight it will suddenly swing to Australia 80% to win....as if the possibility of two quick wickets in cricket are as unexpected as Tory GE win in 2024.TheScreamingEagles said:
Winviz is as accurate as a Scottish sub sample.FrancisUrquhart said:England still 44% to win....LOL....computer needs turning off and on....
However the tech will improve, I am sure0 -
What an insightful post.JosiasJessop said:This 'PM flies in helicopter; LOTO takes the train" seems a little like nonsense. A PM does have rather more to do than a LOTO. Like run the country.
I look forward to PM Starmer never flying around the country in a helicopter. They even did a portrait of Blair in one:
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw135230/Tony-Blair-Helicopter-Flight-from-RAF-Lyneham-to-Battersea
Or this:
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/blair-talks-uk-economy-flying-2913702
Or this:
https://www.halesowennews.co.uk/news/1397294.prime-minister-tony-blair-drops-in-on-halesowen-school/
etc, etc.
.......and all those mesmerising references0 -
They are massively ovetrading.FrancisUrquhart said:Totall off topic....how has Castore come from nowhere to be absolutely everywhere in sport in matter of a few years? I don't think i watch a sporting event without them being a sponsor / clothing provider.
https://www.nssmag.com/en/sports/32217/le-maglie-castore-hanno-piu-di-un-problema0 -
At least we'll avoid the follow-on.0
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I know Andy Murray is an investor, but something doesn't add up. The prominence of mega corps like Nike, Addidas etc seems to be overtaken in the blanketing of sports sponsorships by Castore in past year or two. Must be costing crazy amounts.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are massively ovetrading.FrancisUrquhart said:Totall off topic....how has Castore come from nowhere to be absolutely everywhere in sport in matter of a few years? I don't think i watch a sporting event without them being a sponsor / clothing provider.
https://www.nssmag.com/en/sports/32217/le-maglie-castore-hanno-piu-di-un-problema0 -
*I'm talking about the cricket - not that Labour's lead gets so big in next 16 months that they automatically win a second-term too.0
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They are trying to go with the Warrior Sports/New Balance approach, which was to offer a huge deal to a big team, Liverpool, and build from that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I know Andy Murray is an investor, but something doesn't add up. The prominence of mega corps like Nike, Addidas etc seems to be overtaken in the blanketing of sports sponsorships by Castore in past year or two.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are massively ovetrading.FrancisUrquhart said:Totall off topic....how has Castore come from nowhere to be absolutely everywhere in sport in matter of a few years? I don't think i watch a sporting event without them being a sponsor / clothing provider.
https://www.nssmag.com/en/sports/32217/le-maglie-castore-hanno-piu-di-un-problema0 -
Re the SCOTUS decision, it’s not even disfavoured by Hispanics
“The Pew survey shows a clear divide along racial and ethnic lines: A majority of white and Asian adults disapprove of racial consideration in admissions, while Black Americans largely approve and Hispanics are about evenly split”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/29/us/politics/affirmative-action-polls.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
With that demographic breakdown, this will be a popular decision with American voters as a whole, and if Biden fights it (as he says he will) he will be making the next election harder for himself1 -
I've been at work all day, so haven't been able to follow.
Reading the comments I'd thought England had had a shocker.
Aren't we in a better position than at stumps last night?1 -
If we can bat out these last 15 minutes without loss, this will be a good day for Englanddixiedean said:I've been at work all day, so haven't been able to follow.
Reading the comments I'd thought England had had a shocker.
Aren't we in a better position than at stumps last night?1 -
He's not super well liked by his more lefty, progressive, colleagues I gather. He may need to give them something to ensure the more radical ones do not cause more problems?Leon said:Re the SCOTUS decision, it’s not even disfavoured by Hispanics
“The Pew survey shows a clear divide along racial and ethnic lines: A majority of white and Asian adults disapprove of racial consideration in admissions, while Black Americans largely approve and Hispanics are about evenly split”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/29/us/politics/affirmative-action-polls.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
With that demographic breakdown, this will be a popular decision with American voters as a whole, and if Biden fights it (as he says he will) he will be making the next election harder for himself0 -
Starmer's lead as preferred PM also cut to just 6%, 30% to 24% for Sunak. Sunak leads Starmer by 3% as preferred PM in the MidlandsSunil_Prasannan said:Have we done YouGov yet?
LAB: 46% (-1)
CON: 24% (+2)
LDM: 10% (-1)
RFM: 8% (+1)
GRN: 7% (-1)
SNP: 3% (=)
Via @YouGov, 27-28 Jun.
Changes w/ 20-21 Jun.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1674413501362888704
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2023/06/29/voting-intention-con-24-lab-46-27-28-jun-2023.
Labour ahead of the SNP in the Scottish subsample too, 31% to 30%0 -
People are reacting a bit strangely - Australia don't have a mammoth total, and anything but a major collapse means England get at least close. I rage at certain things, but they are not in a bad position considering the average scores of those to come and currently in.dixiedean said:I've been at work all day, so haven't been able to follow.
Reading the comments I'd thought England had had a shocker.
Aren't we in a better position than at stumps last night?1 -
That is a pretty good summary I think. Re the Hispanic vote, another key factor is the level of union activism. In California and Nevada, the Hispanic vote has not showed the same shift to the Republicans as the unions are very active courting HIspanics as members.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Re: today's SCOTUS 6-2 decision (Justice Brown Jackson recused herself) in Harvard case, striking down affirmative action in truck down affirmative action in college admissions, this may NOT be as electorally significant as some PBers seem to be suggesting.
Why? Because quite unlike the Dobbs decision, this ruling does NOT overturn decades of established SCOTUS precedent established by Roe v. Wade.
Instead, today's decision essentially conforms the Court's thinking, tendency & trend on this issue. Thus lacks the shock & awe character of Dobbs.
Indeed, few SCOTUS decisions, even higly-significant ones, achieve THAT level of electoral impact, historically-speaking.
Which is NOT to say zero impact; as noted Asians are likely (mostly) to be pleased, Blacks & Latinos less so. But think it's a stretch to assume that its gonna switch huge number of votes.
So notion that Trump will now lose Florida because of it, is dubious on its face - even IF you assume that he's got a lock on the GOP nomination for 2024. 9Which I for one do not.)
Also, am puzzled by viewcode's assertion that Hispanics in Northeast are more pro-Trump than other parts of USA. Because I do NOT believe that's true. Seeing as how
> biggest demographic factor withing Latino voter community re: views on Trump is NOT geography, but instead religion, with evangelicals and other religious conservatives being more likely to back him.
> other factor is national origin/heritage, with Cuban Americans (still) more likely to be both Republicans and pro-Trump than other Latino groups
> as for geography, think that Latinos in Florida are way more likely to be Trump voters, that those in Northeastern Seaboard, largely due to Cuban concentration; worth noting that even among Cubans, those in Sunshine state are more conservative in their voting than Cubans in New Jersey, which has a bunch.
HOWEVER, we shall see . . .1 -
PLUS the polls show Hispanics are about evenly split on affirmative action - see my NYT link aboveTheKitchenCabinet said:
That is a pretty good summary I think. Re the Hispanic vote, another key factor is the level of union activism. In California and Nevada, the Hispanic vote has not showed the same shift to the Republicans as the unions are very active courting HIspanics as members.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Re: today's SCOTUS 6-2 decision (Justice Brown Jackson recused herself) in Harvard case, striking down affirmative action in truck down affirmative action in college admissions, this may NOT be as electorally significant as some PBers seem to be suggesting.
Why? Because quite unlike the Dobbs decision, this ruling does NOT overturn decades of established SCOTUS precedent established by Roe v. Wade.
Instead, today's decision essentially conforms the Court's thinking, tendency & trend on this issue. Thus lacks the shock & awe character of Dobbs.
Indeed, few SCOTUS decisions, even higly-significant ones, achieve THAT level of electoral impact, historically-speaking.
Which is NOT to say zero impact; as noted Asians are likely (mostly) to be pleased, Blacks & Latinos less so. But think it's a stretch to assume that its gonna switch huge number of votes.
So notion that Trump will now lose Florida because of it, is dubious on its face - even IF you assume that he's got a lock on the GOP nomination for 2024. 9Which I for one do not.)
Also, am puzzled by viewcode's assertion that Hispanics in Northeast are more pro-Trump than other parts of USA. Because I do NOT believe that's true. Seeing as how
> biggest demographic factor withing Latino voter community re: views on Trump is NOT geography, but instead religion, with evangelicals and other religious conservatives being more likely to back him.
> other factor is national origin/heritage, with Cuban Americans (still) more likely to be both Republicans and pro-Trump than other Latino groups
> as for geography, think that Latinos in Florida are way more likely to be Trump voters, that those in Northeastern Seaboard, largely due to Cuban concentration; worth noting that even among Cubans, those in Sunshine state are more conservative in their voting than Cubans in New Jersey, which has a bunch.
HOWEVER, we shall see . . .
This is potentially dangerous territory for the Dems0
