So what will now happen in Scotland at the general election? – politicalbetting.com

Nigelb said:

First graders at a Wisconsin school have been banned from singing “Rainbowland” by Miley Cyrus and Dolly Parton at a concert after school officials said the song “could be deemed controversial”
https://mobile.twitter.com/WSJ/status/1641055139543883776

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

We haven't joined yet

I think you are in for disappointment.

YBarddCwsc said:

A violent psychopathic migrant to North Wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65062565

We should be repatriating these criminals to their host country.

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

YBarddCwsc said:

Malmesbury said:

YBarddCwsc said:

A violent psychopathic migrant to North Wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65062565

We should be repatriating these criminals to their host country.

It’s the trolley boy from Hot Fuzz.

Send him back to Sandford.

A 21 stone thug from Essex dumped in England's colony.

Emerald said:

Heres one for Leon.

A prosperous society allows for luxury beliefs that are wrong and the believers don't die from incompetence because society saves them. After a while, society collapses because there are no objective consequenses to having wrong beliefs.
2:49 PM · Mar 29, 2023
·
7,619
Views

Woke perhaps??

https://twitter.com/scientist_rogue/status/1641075074517139458?s=20

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

I am planning to keep my current SUV long term, it is very quick and would not like any faster, wife complains as it is.

malcolmg said:

Burgessian said:

malcolmg said:

Cicero said:

I think the SNP activists have made a choice that they prefer to be a "progressive", i.e. left wing party, rather than a national movement of both left and right. That more or less guarantees that voters who believe in liberal economics will have no reason to vote for them and businesses no reason to fund them, and equally voters who are left wing may choose to vote for an actual, "genuine", left wing party, i.e. Labour.

Independence as an issue has fallen in popularity, and the sense of the inevitability or even desirability of separation has fallen quite sharply (somewhat ironically, this seems to be a result of the negative impact of the Brexit separation).

The SNP was a political juggernaut, but a combination of bad judgement, an air of sleaze and real questions about the viability of independence seems set to give the party a significant knock back at the next GE, though FPTP might save several SNP MPs. Come the next Scottish Parliament elections however, the lack of funds and turmoil in the party´s organization, after the departure of Murell, not to mention growing personal and political divisions, as well as the passing of a political generation, could even see the Nats knocked out of power at Holyrood.

[cue: Ayrshire´s little ray of sunshine in total fulmination mode]

You have a high opinion of your perceptions but sadly lacking in reading of people and myself in particular. The desirability is still there but many realise it will not be the SNP that achieve it , certainly in current shape. Westminster is of no importance to Scotland, the deal is in Holyrood and likliehood is that people will bite their tongues and vote SNP / ALBA or ISP and so instead of loads of duff unionists getting the list seats , many will go to independence parties and give them a big majority. However the fly in the ointment is Useless and the old Murrells mafia who currently run the cartel. We shall see if they choose to live or die by the sword. Long time till 2026 if Useless avoids getting booted out.
The first chance to kick these lowlifes is the foreign vote for Westminster.

I think the SNP may well receive a gubbing at the next GE. But Holyrood in 2026 is a different kettle of fish. By then we'll be into a mid-term Starmer Govt which may well impact SLAB's chances and the SNP may have replaced Yousaf with someone electable. But really, who knows?

I agree and think that is the way it will go. Key at Holyrood will be if the duffers vote SNP1/2 again and allow shedloads of unionists in or the idiots get over their ego's and use 2nd vote for an independence party. That was key re sturgeon having no interest in Independence last time as she promoted people to vote for unionists to get into Holyrood by urging people to waste their second vote on SNP.

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Lol. Great example of your level of literacy in that post Baldrick. *In reality* I imagine you struggle to afford a car at all on your little pension plus what Tesco pays you, assuming they haven't fired you for having an angry ugly face that looks like it has been recently smacked with a large haddock.

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

I am planning to keep my current SUV long term, it is very quick and would not like any faster, wife complains as it is.

I am not surprised your wife complains at you Shitty Under Vest. Did you go to the doctor complaining that your were shitting chips, only for him to point out you needed to pull your vest up a little bit more?

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Burgessian said:

malcolmg said:

Cicero said:

I think the SNP activists have made a choice that they prefer to be a "progressive", i.e. left wing party, rather than a national movement of both left and right. That more or less guarantees that voters who believe in liberal economics will have no reason to vote for them and businesses no reason to fund them, and equally voters who are left wing may choose to vote for an actual, "genuine", left wing party, i.e. Labour.

Independence as an issue has fallen in popularity, and the sense of the inevitability or even desirability of separation has fallen quite sharply (somewhat ironically, this seems to be a result of the negative impact of the Brexit separation).

The SNP was a political juggernaut, but a combination of bad judgement, an air of sleaze and real questions about the viability of independence seems set to give the party a significant knock back at the next GE, though FPTP might save several SNP MPs. Come the next Scottish Parliament elections however, the lack of funds and turmoil in the party´s organization, after the departure of Murell, not to mention growing personal and political divisions, as well as the passing of a political generation, could even see the Nats knocked out of power at Holyrood.

[cue: Ayrshire´s little ray of sunshine in total fulmination mode]

You have a high opinion of your perceptions but sadly lacking in reading of people and myself in particular. The desirability is still there but many realise it will not be the SNP that achieve it , certainly in current shape. Westminster is of no importance to Scotland, the deal is in Holyrood and likliehood is that people will bite their tongues and vote SNP / ALBA or ISP and so instead of loads of duff unionists getting the list seats , many will go to independence parties and give them a big majority. However the fly in the ointment is Useless and the old Murrells mafia who currently run the cartel. We shall see if they choose to live or die by the sword. Long time till 2026 if Useless avoids getting booted out.
The first chance to kick these lowlifes is the foreign vote for Westminster.

I think the SNP may well receive a gubbing at the next GE. But Holyrood in 2026 is a different kettle of fish. By then we'll be into a mid-term Starmer Govt which may well impact SLAB's chances and the SNP may have replaced Yousaf with someone electable. But really, who knows?

I agree and think that is the way it will go. Key at Holyrood will be if the duffers vote SNP1/2 again and allow shedloads of unionists in or the idiots get over their ego's and use 2nd vote for an independence party. That was key re sturgeon having no interest in Independence last time as she promoted people to vote for unionists to get into Holyrood by urging people to waste their second vote on SNP.

Maybe she went off the idea when she realised it was supported by two braincell turnip shagging little fascists like yourself?

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

I am planning to keep my current SUV long term, it is very quick and would not like any faster, wife complains as it is.

I am not surprised your wife complains at you Shitty Under Vest. Did you go to the doctor complaining that your were shitting chips, only for him to point out you needed to pull your vest up a little bit more?

Dear Dear , blood pressure gammon chops, take care.

Mexicanpete said:

NickyBreakspear said:

I'm not sure that we have covered the Savanta poll which came out earlier today. Polling was end of last week

🚨NEW Westminster Voting Intention

📈16pt Labour lead

🌹Lab 45 (=)
🌳Con 29 (-2)
🔶LD 9 (=)
➡️Reform 4 (=)
🎗️SNP 4 (+1)
🌍Green 3 (=)
⬜️Other 5 (=)

2,097 UK adults, 24-26 March

Wow! An enormous Yousef bounce at the expense of the Tories. Or could it just be MoE?

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Burgessian said:

malcolmg said:

Cicero said:

I think the SNP activists have made a choice that they prefer to be a "progressive", i.e. left wing party, rather than a national movement of both left and right. That more or less guarantees that voters who believe in liberal economics will have no reason to vote for them and businesses no reason to fund them, and equally voters who are left wing may choose to vote for an actual, "genuine", left wing party, i.e. Labour.

Independence as an issue has fallen in popularity, and the sense of the inevitability or even desirability of separation has fallen quite sharply (somewhat ironically, this seems to be a result of the negative impact of the Brexit separation).

The SNP was a political juggernaut, but a combination of bad judgement, an air of sleaze and real questions about the viability of independence seems set to give the party a significant knock back at the next GE, though FPTP might save several SNP MPs. Come the next Scottish Parliament elections however, the lack of funds and turmoil in the party´s organization, after the departure of Murell, not to mention growing personal and political divisions, as well as the passing of a political generation, could even see the Nats knocked out of power at Holyrood.

[cue: Ayrshire´s little ray of sunshine in total fulmination mode]

You have a high opinion of your perceptions but sadly lacking in reading of people and myself in particular. The desirability is still there but many realise it will not be the SNP that achieve it , certainly in current shape. Westminster is of no importance to Scotland, the deal is in Holyrood and likliehood is that people will bite their tongues and vote SNP / ALBA or ISP and so instead of loads of duff unionists getting the list seats , many will go to independence parties and give them a big majority. However the fly in the ointment is Useless and the old Murrells mafia who currently run the cartel. We shall see if they choose to live or die by the sword. Long time till 2026 if Useless avoids getting booted out.
The first chance to kick these lowlifes is the foreign vote for Westminster.

I think the SNP may well receive a gubbing at the next GE. But Holyrood in 2026 is a different kettle of fish. By then we'll be into a mid-term Starmer Govt which may well impact SLAB's chances and the SNP may have replaced Yousaf with someone electable. But really, who knows?

I agree and think that is the way it will go. Key at Holyrood will be if the duffers vote SNP1/2 again and allow shedloads of unionists in or the idiots get over their ego's and use 2nd vote for an independence party. That was key re sturgeon having no interest in Independence last time as she promoted people to vote for unionists to get into Holyrood by urging people to waste their second vote on SNP.

Maybe she went off the idea when she realised it was supported by two braincell turnip shagging little fascists like yourself?

Ha Ha Ha, burst a blood vessel yet loser. Take off those bicycle clips you silly boy.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

FrankBooth said:

So - we know what we have lost from single market/customs union membership. SO what will we gain from membership of CPTPP? I want specifics please.

New (and improved!) mega-Port of Pitcairn.

Which in turn will lead to massive increase in British exports, for example:

https://www.pitcairn-island-pipco.com/store/30-jar-pipco-honey-to-rest-of-the-world

Stuartinromford said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

And a fair chunk of those were covered by the EU deals with CPTPP countries anyway.

So the main product of this deal looks like being Remainer tears, real or imagined.

The implications of this don't bear thinking about.

Mexicanpete said:

...

MightyAlex said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Emerald said:

Heres one for Leon.

A prosperous society allows for luxury beliefs that are wrong and the believers don't die from incompetence because society saves them. After a while, society collapses because there are no objective consequenses to having wrong beliefs.
2:49 PM · Mar 29, 2023
·
7,619
Views

Woke perhaps??

https://twitter.com/scientist_rogue/status/1641075074517139458?s=20

Leavers.

Vaccines.

Mornington Crescent?

Driver said:

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

This is a false dichotomy.

We have left the EU. That is the starting point from which we got the choice to join CPTPP or not to join it.

Do you have an argument why not joining it is the better choice?

Mexicanpete said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

I am planning to keep my current SUV long term, it is very quick and would not like any faster, wife complains as it is.

As a Scottish patriot surely it's a Hillman Imp or Shank's pony. You can't call your Hillman Imp an SUV, although that rear window is quite nifty.

Mexicanpete said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

I am planning to keep my current SUV long term, it is very quick and would not like any faster, wife complains as it is.

As a Scottish patriot surely it's a Hillman Imp or Shank's pony. You can't call your Hillman Imp an SUV, although that rear window is quite nifty.

ohnotnow said:

Mexicanpete said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Malmesbury said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Stocky said:

MikeSmithson said:

The range of my Toyota hybrid is 570 miles - a bit less in the winter. I'd argue that it has less impact on the environment than any EV

Whatever type of car you buy the environment is taking a hit with the manufacture of the vehicle - no free lunch.

Is the best thing of all the keep your existing car for longer, whatever type it is?

Depends on whether you are referring to the global or local environment. An old diesel driving through a built up area is not environmental from a local perspective by any means or definition.

On a global scale, there are petrolheads and reactionaries who argue that the mining of elements for batteries has the same impact or worse than the continued use of fossil fuel powered vehicles. This is tenuous in the extreme. the corollary of this weak argument is that we should forget making EVs. This would mean that the advances in battery technology that will inevitably come would be held up which would be madness.

Buy a Tesla

They are for fannies only

They are actually quite a handful to drive if you aren’t used to the power. Tap the accelerator a bit hard at the wrong moment….

Can imagine , was aimed at that pompous arsewipe Foremain in reality. He probably drives a C1 Citroen in reality.

Rent one for a week.

Launching off the lights is a bag of fun.

I am planning to keep my current SUV long term, it is very quick and would not like any faster, wife complains as it is.

As a Scottish patriot surely it's a Hillman Imp or Shank's pony. You can't call your Hillman Imp an SUV, although that rear window is quite nifty.

First car I remember my parents having was a Hillman Hunter. I still fondly remember looking at the road whizzing by... through the holes in the rusted floor.

Andy_JS said:

MattW said:

Theuniondivvie said:

MattW said:

For on Street Chargers we need to avoid this type of thing (London), which is diabolical. They need to be in the road between the parking spaces.

Lots of flattened or dented chgargers?

It needs something strong enough either side seriously to damage any car driven by a wombat who hits it. No more patience any more.

There was a weird one in Denmark Hill recently where a young mum drove her car into a cycle hangar and put her own baby in hospital in the accident. At 2:30pm in the afternoon.

Cycle hangar had replaced a parking space which would have had an SUV or similar in it. And the locals are blaming the dangerous cycle hangar.

https://southwarknews.co.uk/news/baby-hospitalised-in-collision-with-bike-hanger-that-council-was-warned-could-be-dangerous/

Tom Scott's latest video is sort of on this subject. The end of the video is the most interesting bit wrt electric vehicles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYdl7IFZsM

TimS said:

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

As @Jim_Miller says though, this is primarily geopolitical. It is indeed mainly about clubbing together to provide a viable AsPac alternative bloc to China and prevent the countries in the region being bullied. So long as Britain's involvement doesn't actively harm our trade with the EU or US then I'm all for it. It won't deliver us any meaningful trade benefits but it might help our soft power.

williamglenn said:

YBarddCwsc said:

Malmesbury said:

YBarddCwsc said:

A violent psychopathic migrant to North Wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65062565

We should be repatriating these criminals to their host country.

It’s the trolley boy from Hot Fuzz.

Send him back to Sandford.

A 21 stone thug from Essex dumped in England's colony.

I don't think there are any bureaucrats sitting in the Colonial Office allocating quotas of thugs to be sent to Wales.

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

MattW said:

Stuartinromford said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

And a fair chunk of those were covered by the EU deals with CPTPP countries anyway.

So the main product of this deal looks like being Remainer tears, real or imagined.

The implications of this don't bear thinking about.

Good to see this coming through; pity it wasn't quicker.

I hope it Sunak's better attention to detail on it, rather than all the previous wavey hands.

Sunak has signed the WF with the EU and generated a lot of goodwill in the EU, if not the DUP and is now about to take us into the CPTPP to which I do give Truss the credit for all the work she did as foreign secretary on it

For some the argument is the EU or CPTPP but not so as as we develop our relationship with the EU but cast our net worldwide

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Sandpit said:

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

Britain secures agreement to join Indo-Pacific trade bloc
The U.K. will be the first new nation to join the CPTPP since it was set up in 2018.
https://www.politico.eu/article/britain-secures-agreement-to-join-indo-pacific-trade-bloc/

Another success for Rishi, albeit a lot of the work was done under Johnson.

Dare I say it, but CP-TPP membership was Liz Truss’s flagship project as trade minister and foreign secretary. Huzzah for Liz Truss!

Fair comment and the fury from remainers on twitter is a sight to behold

Sunak taking us closer to Europe and Macron's EPC as supported by Truss, plus the announcement we are to join the CPTPP opens immense new trading possibilities and ends rejoining the EU as a practical proposition

Indeed in this weeks Deltapoll rejoin led by just 1% - 42/41

Hardly ends rejoin. We would have to end our membership of CPTPP to rejoin just like we ended our prerential trade arrangements with the Commonwealth to join the Common Market. If the benefits of being in the EU SM were bigger than those of being in CPTPP - which they probably would be by a significant margin - I would assume we would happily switch.

Unfortunately rejoining for those who want to rejoin the time is ebbing away as both the EPC and CPTPP point to the future of our trading relationships worldwide

This is not an either or argument it is the benefits of both

Because as a country we are more likely to prosper by deepening service trade with our neighbours rather than trying to overcome economic gravity and comparative advantage at the same time.

Roger said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Sandpit said:

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

Britain secures agreement to join Indo-Pacific trade bloc
The U.K. will be the first new nation to join the CPTPP since it was set up in 2018.
https://www.politico.eu/article/britain-secures-agreement-to-join-indo-pacific-trade-bloc/

Another success for Rishi, albeit a lot of the work was done under Johnson.

Dare I say it, but CP-TPP membership was Liz Truss’s flagship project as trade minister and foreign secretary. Huzzah for Liz Truss!

Fair comment and the fury from remainers on twitter is a sight to behold

Sunak taking us closer to Europe and Macron's EPC as supported by Truss, plus the announcement we are to join the CPTPP opens immense new trading possibilities and ends rejoining the EU as a practical proposition

Indeed in this weeks Deltapoll rejoin led by just 1% - 42/41

Hardly ends rejoin. We would have to end our membership of CPTPP to rejoin just like we ended our prerential trade arrangements with the Commonwealth to join the Common Market. If the benefits of being in the EU SM were bigger than those of being in CPTPP - which they probably would be by a significant margin - I would assume we would happily switch.

Unfortunately rejoining for those who want to rejoin the time is ebbing away as both the EPC and CPTPP point to the future of our trading relationships worldwide

This is not an either or argument it is the benefits of both

Because as a country we are more likely to prosper by deepening service trade with our neighbours rather than trying to overcome economic gravity and comparative advantage at the same time.

The latest polls show the numbers thinking 'Leave' was a mistake is now overwhelming. That coupled with the disgrace of those like Boris Johnson who led us in is likely to make holding the LEAVE line extremely difficult when the Tories are booted out. I'd expect Starmer with the support of all parts of the kingdom and all parties except for the rump Tory Party to put a lot of pressure on for a quick second referendum

HYUFD said:

YBarddCwsc said:

Malmesbury said:

YBarddCwsc said:

A violent psychopathic migrant to North Wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65062565

We should be repatriating these criminals to their host country.

It’s the trolley boy from Hot Fuzz.

Send him back to Sandford.

A 21 stone thug from Essex dumped in England's colony.

Sandford is in Dorset not Essex and Wales has its own Parliament unlike England and also elects MPs so is hardly a colony

Eabhal said:

HYUFD said:

YBarddCwsc said:

Malmesbury said:

YBarddCwsc said:

A violent psychopathic migrant to North Wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65062565

We should be repatriating these criminals to their host country.

It’s the trolley boy from Hot Fuzz.

Send him back to Sandford.

A 21 stone thug from Essex dumped in England's colony.

Sandford is in Dorset not Essex and Wales has its own Parliament unlike England and also elects MPs so is hardly a colony

Nah it's in South Lanarkshire.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Roger said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Sandpit said:

DavidL said:

Nigelb said:

Britain secures agreement to join Indo-Pacific trade bloc
The U.K. will be the first new nation to join the CPTPP since it was set up in 2018.
https://www.politico.eu/article/britain-secures-agreement-to-join-indo-pacific-trade-bloc/

Another success for Rishi, albeit a lot of the work was done under Johnson.

Dare I say it, but CP-TPP membership was Liz Truss’s flagship project as trade minister and foreign secretary. Huzzah for Liz Truss!

Fair comment and the fury from remainers on twitter is a sight to behold

Sunak taking us closer to Europe and Macron's EPC as supported by Truss, plus the announcement we are to join the CPTPP opens immense new trading possibilities and ends rejoining the EU as a practical proposition

Indeed in this weeks Deltapoll rejoin led by just 1% - 42/41

Hardly ends rejoin. We would have to end our membership of CPTPP to rejoin just like we ended our prerential trade arrangements with the Commonwealth to join the Common Market. If the benefits of being in the EU SM were bigger than those of being in CPTPP - which they probably would be by a significant margin - I would assume we would happily switch.

Unfortunately rejoining for those who want to rejoin the time is ebbing away as both the EPC and CPTPP point to the future of our trading relationships worldwide

This is not an either or argument it is the benefits of both

Because as a country we are more likely to prosper by deepening service trade with our neighbours rather than trying to overcome economic gravity and comparative advantage at the same time.

The latest polls show the numbers thinking 'Leave' was a mistake is now overwhelming. That coupled with the disgrace of those like Boris Johnson who led us in is likely to make holding the LEAVE line extremely difficult when the Tories are booted out. I'd expect Starmer with the support of all parts of the kingdom and all parties except for the rump Tory Party to put a lot of pressure on for a quick second referendum

Yesterday's Deltapoll on rejoining the EU down to just 1% difference - 42%/41%

While numbers thinking leaving was a mistake, it is wrong to assume they want to rejoin

As I have posted for quite some time the future relationship with the EU is through Macron's EPC which meets in London next year

And Starmer suggesting a second referendum is as likely as him welcoming Corbyn as his deputy leader

HYUFD said:

@Survation
NEW Westminster voting intention.

LAB 45% (-1)
CON 31% (nc)
LD 8% (nc)
SNP 4% (nc)
GRE 3% (+1)
REF 4% (nc)
OTH 5% (nc)

F/w 23-24 March. Changes vs. 17-20 March. Details:
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1641115283069730817?s=20

HYUFD said:

@Survation
NEW Westminster voting intention.

LAB 45% (-1)
CON 31% (nc)
LD 8% (nc)
SNP 4% (nc)
GRE 3% (+1)
REF 4% (nc)
OTH 5% (nc)

F/w 23-24 March. Changes vs. 17-20 March. Details:
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1641115283069730817?s=20

noneoftheabove said:

Nigelb said:

TikTok Ban Would Put 53B Hours Of US Media Consumption On The Market
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1641113441665441792

More interesting to me in the tech wars is the call for a six month freeze in advanced AI development.

How can there be trust that rivals would respect such a freeze? What economic compensation could/should be offered to those we are asking not to undertake profitable innovation? Are the US and Chinese militaries likely to be developing their own AIs in parallel (or ahead of) what is commercially available?

I fear this ends badly as can see close to zero chance of an effective freeze or global agreement, and a high chance that an AI that is profitable in the short term but very damaging to the long term of humanity gets created at some point. Not sure if I'm just a modern day luddite though....

MattW said:

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

I never understand this stick to the backyard argument.

For the EU the top 10 trading partners include China, Japan, South Korea and India.

MattW said:

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

I never understand this stick to the backyard argument.

For the EU the top 10 trading partners include China, Japan, South Korea and India.

Carnyx said:

MattW said:

Mexicanpete said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

For clarification the present members of the CPTPP are

Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam

UK will make it 12

CPTPP has a combined GDP of 9 trillion and 500 million people in 2021

Our exports of goods and services to the EU are 5 times our exports of goods and services to this group of countries. Our exports to just one EU country (Germany) are of the same magnitude as our exports to all of these countries.

Location, location, location.

Replacing the EU with CPTPP? It's like me switching my weekly "big" shop from Tesco, Bridgend to a corner shop in Inverness. Makes no economic or logistical sense whatsoever.

I never understand this stick to the backyard argument.

For the EU the top 10 trading partners include China, Japan, South Korea and India.

Invalid comparison. That doesn't allow for trade *within* the EU. Which, for the UK, was and will be much larger than with the CPTPP.

kle4 said:

A positive move, given the quality of much British TV?

It’s a question worthy of a great TV detective: can streamers like Netflix still guarantee a certain proportion of European content if the goalposts are suddenly moved to exclude hits like Sherlock and Doctor Who?

They may soon have to, as the European Commission is considering removing the U.K. from the list of countries recognized as providing “European” content, according to a policy paper seen by POLITICO. That would put broadcasters and streaming platforms in a tight spot, as the U.K. is among the biggest contributors to their European catalogs.

"The need to re-define the concept of European works has been raised in the context of Brexit. It is arguable that, since the U.K. is no longer a member of the EU, works originating in the U.K. should no longer be considered as European,” said the paper. It also raised the idea of cutting Switzerland from the scope of European works.

https://www.politico.eu/article/british-tv-netflix-european-content-lupin-vs-sherlock-british-series-face-eu-setback-post-brexit/

Sounds incredibly dumb, but does demonstrate my long held belief that people on both sides of the divide conflate the EU with Europe, when it is convenient to them.

Doens't sound like it will happen once they are done fact finding.

kle4 said:

A positive move, given the quality of much British TV?

It’s a question worthy of a great TV detective: can streamers like Netflix still guarantee a certain proportion of European content if the goalposts are suddenly moved to exclude hits like Sherlock and Doctor Who?

They may soon have to, as the European Commission is considering removing the U.K. from the list of countries recognized as providing “European” content, according to a policy paper seen by POLITICO. That would put broadcasters and streaming platforms in a tight spot, as the U.K. is among the biggest contributors to their European catalogs.

"The need to re-define the concept of European works has been raised in the context of Brexit. It is arguable that, since the U.K. is no longer a member of the EU, works originating in the U.K. should no longer be considered as European,” said the paper. It also raised the idea of cutting Switzerland from the scope of European works.

https://www.politico.eu/article/british-tv-netflix-european-content-lupin-vs-sherlock-british-series-face-eu-setback-post-brexit/

Sounds incredibly dumb, but does demonstrate my long held belief that people on both sides of the divide conflate the EU with Europe, when it is convenient to them.

Doens't sound like it will happen once they are done fact finding.

Pagan2 said:

kle4 said:

A positive move, given the quality of much British TV?

It’s a question worthy of a great TV detective: can streamers like Netflix still guarantee a certain proportion of European content if the goalposts are suddenly moved to exclude hits like Sherlock and Doctor Who?

They may soon have to, as the European Commission is considering removing the U.K. from the list of countries recognized as providing “European” content, according to a policy paper seen by POLITICO. That would put broadcasters and streaming platforms in a tight spot, as the U.K. is among the biggest contributors to their European catalogs.

"The need to re-define the concept of European works has been raised in the context of Brexit. It is arguable that, since the U.K. is no longer a member of the EU, works originating in the U.K. should no longer be considered as European,” said the paper. It also raised the idea of cutting Switzerland from the scope of European works.

https://www.politico.eu/article/british-tv-netflix-european-content-lupin-vs-sherlock-british-series-face-eu-setback-post-brexit/

Sounds incredibly dumb, but does demonstrate my long held belief that people on both sides of the divide conflate the EU with Europe, when it is convenient to them.

Doens't sound like it will happen once they are done fact finding.

So eu nationals get crapper tv and we care why?

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

malcolmg said:

Burgessian said:

malcolmg said:

Cicero said:

I think the SNP activists have made a choice that they prefer to be a "progressive", i.e. left wing party, rather than a national movement of both left and right. That more or less guarantees that voters who believe in liberal economics will have no reason to vote for them and businesses no reason to fund them, and equally voters who are left wing may choose to vote for an actual, "genuine", left wing party, i.e. Labour.

Independence as an issue has fallen in popularity, and the sense of the inevitability or even desirability of separation has fallen quite sharply (somewhat ironically, this seems to be a result of the negative impact of the Brexit separation).

The SNP was a political juggernaut, but a combination of bad judgement, an air of sleaze and real questions about the viability of independence seems set to give the party a significant knock back at the next GE, though FPTP might save several SNP MPs. Come the next Scottish Parliament elections however, the lack of funds and turmoil in the party´s organization, after the departure of Murell, not to mention growing personal and political divisions, as well as the passing of a political generation, could even see the Nats knocked out of power at Holyrood.

[cue: Ayrshire´s little ray of sunshine in total fulmination mode]

You have a high opinion of your perceptions but sadly lacking in reading of people and myself in particular. The desirability is still there but many realise it will not be the SNP that achieve it , certainly in current shape. Westminster is of no importance to Scotland, the deal is in Holyrood and likliehood is that people will bite their tongues and vote SNP / ALBA or ISP and so instead of loads of duff unionists getting the list seats , many will go to independence parties and give them a big majority. However the fly in the ointment is Useless and the old Murrells mafia who currently run the cartel. We shall see if they choose to live or die by the sword. Long time till 2026 if Useless avoids getting booted out.
The first chance to kick these lowlifes is the foreign vote for Westminster.

I think the SNP may well receive a gubbing at the next GE. But Holyrood in 2026 is a different kettle of fish. By then we'll be into a mid-term Starmer Govt which may well impact SLAB's chances and the SNP may have replaced Yousaf with someone electable. But really, who knows?

I agree and think that is the way it will go. Key at Holyrood will be if the duffers vote SNP1/2 again and allow shedloads of unionists in or the idiots get over their ego's and use 2nd vote for an independence party. That was key re sturgeon having no interest in Independence last time as she promoted people to vote for unionists to get into Holyrood by urging people to waste their second vote on SNP.

Maybe she went off the idea when she realised it was supported by two braincell turnip shagging little fascists like yourself?

Ha Ha Ha, burst a blood vessel yet loser. Take off those bicycle clips you silly boy.

Sorry I have the measure of you Malcolm. When you call people "loser" it is psychological projection. It is because you know that is what you have turned out to be in your sad old age. It is why you believe in the fairytale charter for losers called Scottish Nationalism. It is why you are soooo angry and generally rude to anyone who holds a different view, though this is, obviously also in part because you are really very very thick.

Get some therapy you sad angry little man.

The irony of the uneducated Buster Bloodvessel.

Leon said:

noneoftheabove said:

Nigelb said:

TikTok Ban Would Put 53B Hours Of US Media Consumption On The Market
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1641113441665441792

More interesting to me in the tech wars is the call for a six month freeze in advanced AI development.

How can there be trust that rivals would respect such a freeze? What economic compensation could/should be offered to those we are asking not to undertake profitable innovation? Are the US and Chinese militaries likely to be developing their own AIs in parallel (or ahead of) what is commercially available?

I fear this ends badly as can see close to zero chance of an effective freeze or global agreement, and a high chance that an AI that is profitable in the short term but very damaging to the long term of humanity gets created at some point. Not sure if I'm just a modern day luddite though....

No you’re absolutely right. Trying to stop AI now is like trying to stop the Manhattan project in about 1944 and just hoping Hitler or Stalin won’t simply carry on and make the bomb. And then defeat us completely


It’s too late now. We have to complete the journey

And as you say there is no guarantee the US government/military wouldn’t continue development anyway. Just keep it out of the hands of the people

All we can do is advance from here. And pray. And the UK should be exploiting its relative advantage