Invoking God – the craziest political ad you are ever likely to see – politicalbetting.com
I love you, Ron.On behalf of millions of people, never stop fighting for freedom. pic.twitter.com/5wcopo041U
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Bizarre.
So glad we don't get that kind of cr@p in this country.3 -
NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth0 -
This advert is cheesy, silly, cringeworthy and peculiarly American, but I can’t discern a hint of Fascism. Where is it? The mere fact he invokes God?ydoethur said:
Your reminder that Leon thinks this guy isn't a wannabe Fascist.DavidL said:Bizarre
I can also see this ad working with less educated, religious Americans. Hispanic Catholic blue collar etc.2 -
holy shit1
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SID & DORIS
.....meanwhile away from the celestial world but just as bonkers James O'Brien talks Brexit
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Good old leaky Sue.Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth
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A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins0 -
Nah, it was clear he hit the ground with his bat. And the damage is already done because the power play is when Sri Lanka were flying and England are ahead.ydoethur said:0 -
Observation. Iceland is full of young Chinese tourists. I’ve seen them across the country. They are obviously wealthy, with expensive winter clothes
I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it. Maybe Xi has ordered all the plain ones to stay home, to promote China’s image abroad0 -
Definitely seen weirder ads, particularly in smaller races, but is it more worrying that someone is so conceited they think and are willing to say God is essentially annointing them, or that it presumably works on some people?DavidL said:Bizarre.
So glad we don't get that kind of cr@p in this country.
We don't do more than humour monarchs who try that sort of lin enow.1 -
I would argue that apart from brief moments of optimism under T Blair and Thatcher, successive UK PMs (incl those 2) have managed decline....... its a reality that British voters need to wake up to.Jonathan said:
Good old leaky Sue.Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth1 -
Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍0
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Curious stat on the subject;
For Republicans, it's becoming more apparent that they value the *idea* of religion without actually participating.
In 2008, 17% of Republicans who never/seldom attended said religion was very important.
In 2021, that had risen to 27%.
To be Republican is to be religious.
https://twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1588570590809829376
Probably easier to do Republican stuff if you're not being exposed to all that "who is my neighbour?" talk on a regular basis.2 -
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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"bonkers James O'Brien" is unusually accurate...Roger said:SID & DORIS
.....meanwhile away from the celestial world but just as bonkers James O'Brien talks Brexit
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In reply to OGH's lead article today.
Dear God!1 -
FYI. Knappers Hill runs today in the 3.00 Wincanton.Leon said:Observation. Iceland is full of young Chinese tourists. I’ve seen them across the country. They are obviously wealthy, with expensive winter clothes
I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it. Maybe Xi has ordered all the plain ones to stay home, to promote China’s image abroad1 -
Six years and they've only just noticed?Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth0 -
Now Stokes in at 3, rather than the more aggressive Moeen.
This could go wrong.-1 -
Floridians voted in a binding referendum to overturn the ban of former convicts from voting.
De Santis has done everything in his power to overturn this result. Making it close to impossible for former convicts to know if they have paid off any outstanding fines (the GOP decided that if you had any fines outstanding you were still not eligible to vote) as there is no centralised source of what fines a person owes (smells like an illegal poll tax to me).
He's then launched a high profile campaign of arresting people for voter fraud for voting having failed to pay off fines. In every case the people arrested had been sent voter registration papers by the state and in many cases they can confirmed with the state that they were eligible to vote. Only to be arrested later under the byzantium system of secret fines.
And DeSantis boasts about this.
The policy is discouraging eligible voters from voting in Florida as they are scared about being arrested for Election fraud. The voter suppression effect is enormous - he's probably disenfranchised more Black voters than any living politician in America.
He passes laws to punish corporations who don't align with his political views.
De Santis is a fascist.1 -
I'm sure they have a better plan.Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth0 -
I’m still waiting to hear why this naff and embarrassing advert is also “Fascist”
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I have to go in a minute. But would @DavidL and @londonpubman kindly refrain from further predictions now they've cost us two set batsmen?0
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Some of said exactly that, on the day the PM was elected appointed!Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth0 -
"Camp of the Saints" back to the bestseller list?Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins0 -
Sri Lanka on top now? 😈ydoethur said:I have to go in a minute. But would @DavidL and @londonpubman kindly refrain from further predictions now they've cost us two set batsmen?
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When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.0 -
Genetically, or clothes and make up?Scott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.
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Members of the 0.1% probably.Leon said:Observation. Iceland is full of young Chinese tourists. I’ve seen them across the country. They are obviously wealthy, with expensive winter clothes
I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it. Maybe Xi has ordered all the plain ones to stay home, to promote China’s image abroad0 -
Its because rich men attract more attractive women...darwinism in actionIshmael_Z said:
Genetically, or clothes and make up?Scott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.0 -
Think the media might be stirring things up to be honestkyf_100 said:
"Camp of the Saints" back to the bestseller list?Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins0 -
Hopefully in a week it can be consigned to history alongside Fizzy Lizzy's Instagram page.0
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Welcome Martin. Looking forward to more posts.Martin10 said:
Its because rich men attract more attractive women...darwinism in actionIshmael_Z said:
Genetically, or clothes and make up?Scott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.0 -
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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OT, the weather today is biblically awful. November is God’s punishment for something.0
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Is he. I didn't know that.Ishmael_Z said:
Religion is bad and unprogressiveLeon said:I’m still waiting to hear why this naff and embarrassing advert is also “Fascist”
Fascism is bad and unprogressive
Therefore religion is fascism
Just as
Socrates is mortal
Oak trees are mortal
Therefore Socrates is an oak tree.
I like that one. Will have to remember it for future discussions with hyufd.0 -
Interesting views on twitter from joe biden
U.S. President Joe Biden has said that the social media platform, Twitter, purchased by Elon Musk, spews lies across the world.
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1588722230653247488?s=20&t=iuZWMDB_LGmnT0fNkRQWoA0 -
On topic. To be honest, I actually thought it was very good for about 30secs - then, just like all pastiche made by the enemy to take the piss out of someone, it incrementally got sillier and sillier in a bid to destroy Big Ron’s chances.
His campaign should rightly sue whoever put that out there.0 -
0.1% of 1.4bn people, is an awful lot of them!Andy_JS said:
Members of the 0.1% probably.Leon said:Observation. Iceland is full of young Chinese tourists. I’ve seen them across the country. They are obviously wealthy, with expensive winter clothes
I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it. Maybe Xi has ordered all the plain ones to stay home, to promote China’s image abroad0 -
YANTIAMoonRabbit said:On topic. To be honest, I actually thought it was very good for about 30secs - then, just like all pastiche made by the enemy to take the piss out of someone, it incrementally got sillier and sillier in a bid to destroy Big Ron’s chances.
His campaign should rightly sue whoever put that out there.
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Clearly the media seems to have an agenda now to stir up this asylum issue. Fact is ilkegal immigration is dwarfed by about 300000 per year legal immigration anyway1
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Welp, Late surge of Dem Nevada ballots has raised their status from "Compeltely doomed" to "probably doomed". The 'firewall' is still way to low to give Dems the win but it is very interesting that they managed to increase it by a significant percentage yesterday. They need to add another 20k votes to be at a level to have any confidence.
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Tis a Home Office press release. So stirring yes, press no.Martin10 said:
Think the media might be stirring things up to be honestkyf_100 said:
"Camp of the Saints" back to the bestseller list?Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
Here's some stirring
https://mattgoodwin.substack.com/p/britain-has-lost-control-of-its-borders
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Their alleged religion is a big scam . The evangelicals have become a campaigning group just peddling hate and bigotry with zero humanity . They’re also hypocrites . Just see what’s happening in Georgia with Herschel Walker .Stuartinromford said:Curious stat on the subject;
For Republicans, it's becoming more apparent that they value the *idea* of religion without actually participating.
In 2008, 17% of Republicans who never/seldom attended said religion was very important.
In 2021, that had risen to 27%.
To be Republican is to be religious.
https://twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1588570590809829376
Probably easier to do Republican stuff if you're not being exposed to all that "who is my neighbour?" talk on a regular basis.
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God should sue.stjohn said:In reply to OGH's lead article today.
Dear God!2 -
It sounds like something Leaky Sue would say, if she wasn’t so shy in coming forward.Sandpit said:
Some of said exactly that, on the day the PM was elected appointed!Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth0 -
Indeed so. The While House had to delete a Tweet last week claiming that petrol prices had come down during Biden’s tenure, after Twitter fact-checked it as false.Martin10 said:Interesting views on twitter from joe biden
U.S. President Joe Biden has said that the social media platform, Twitter, purchased by Elon Musk, spews lies across the world.
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1588722230653247488?s=20&t=iuZWMDB_LGmnT0fNkRQWoA
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November is a month with no redeeming qualities..dark nights that get darker and miserable weather...the worst month of the yearAndy_JS said:
Whereabouts? It's okay in Brentwood which is where I am atm.TimS said:OT, the weather today is biblically awful. November is God’s punishment for something.
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I was listening last night to some crazy ranting on Radio 4 from some lunatic Republicans.
Saying that 'America was built on the Bible and is a Christian country and must go back to being that again'. Strange. For a people that so loved the 2nd Amendment, they forget the first lines of their own Constitution that explicitly say that America ISN'T a Christian country.
Some other lunatic was saying that the Democrats are the devil and should be killed, but when asked said that he wasn't advocating hate speech.
I wonder if these lunatics ever truly won, who they'd then blame when their country collapsed back into the dark ages.......1 -
Ian you are obviously in a feisty mood this morning and up for a fight. I love seeing the pictures of your dog on PB, being the owner of a mad mutt myself, but I think you have just opened up yourself from the cricket lovers with the argument of hypocrisy. Good luck.IanB2 said:
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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`'This is the most inaccurate political ad ever made......EVERY offer proved false'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbNvA5PtUzk
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Its the tory strategy now...lets be beastly to migrants to shore up the core vote as they have failed everywhere elseIshmael_Z said:
Tis a Home Office press release. So stirring yes, press no.Martin10 said:
Think the media might be stirring things up to be honestkyf_100 said:
"Camp of the Saints" back to the bestseller list?Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
Here's some stirring
https://mattgoodwin.substack.com/p/britain-has-lost-control-of-its-borders0 -
Yes of course. It’s why Trump has beautiful daughters: as a rich man he could acquire beautiful partnersScott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.
However, I am specifically wondering why the rich CHINESE are so spectacularly beautiful. The assortative mating in the Chinese elite must be quite something
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Dog is overstating it, I think someone missold him a deformed sheep.kjh said:
Ian you are obviously in a feisty mood this morning and up for a fight. I love seeing the pictures of your dog on PB, being the owner of a mad mutt myself, but I think you have just opened up yourself from the cricket lovers with the argument of hypocrisy. Good luck.IanB2 said:
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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Hmm.Alistair said:Floridians voted in a binding referendum...
De Santis has done everything in his power to overturn this result...
And DeSantis boasts about this.
De Santis is a fascist.0 -
Mark Carney this week said Brexit was a contributory factor to the UK’s current economic woes.
He’s not alone. Polling (via John Curtice) shows % who think Brexit has had a negative impact on economy has risen markedly.
It has jumped from an already bad -29 in Feb to -46 in Oct. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1588845845793079301/photo/10 -
The big uncertainty is how many younger people turn out to vote on Election Day .Alistair said:Welp, Late surge of Dem Nevada ballots has raised their status from "Compeltely doomed" to "probably doomed". The 'firewall' is still way to low to give Dems the win but it is very interesting that they managed to increase it by a significant percentage yesterday. They need to add another 20k votes to be at a level to have any confidence.
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1588748515085164544
An interesting finding from a CBS generic ballot poll last week showed a huge difference in house seats if younger people actually turn out. The house was then 218 to 217 to the Dems.
I’m very doubtful about younger turnout but would love to be proved wrong .0 -
No sun — no moon!Martin10 said:
November is a month with no redeeming qualities..dark nights that get darker and miserable weather...the worst month of the yearAndy_JS said:
Whereabouts? It's okay in Brentwood which is where I am atm.TimS said:OT, the weather today is biblically awful. November is God’s punishment for something.
No morn — no noon —
No dawn — no dusk — no proper time of day.
No warmth, no cheerfulness, no healthful ease,
No comfortable feel in any member —
No shade, no shine, no butterflies, no bees,
No fruits, no flowers, no leaves, no birds! —
November!
Thomas Hood
ETA but I will take it over Jan/Feb/Mar/most of Apr0 -
England shitting the bed here.0
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These are people who have been ordered by a court to be detained, or who are in the asylum process but deemed to be a flight risk.Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
Do you believe that we should let them go on the grounds that they are prepared to used violence (and weapons) to achieve their objective? Do you believe that makes them more or less attractive to the UK as an immigrant?
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I think it is rather charming.Ishmael_Z said:
Dog is overstating it, I think someone missold him a deformed sheep.kjh said:
Ian you are obviously in a feisty mood this morning and up for a fight. I love seeing the pictures of your dog on PB, being the owner of a mad mutt myself, but I think you have just opened up yourself from the cricket lovers with the argument of hypocrisy. Good luck.IanB2 said:
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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Yesterday’s @thetimes /@YouGov polling found that many Leavers think Sunak is a Remainer, but most Remainers know he’s a Brexiteer.
That’s a dangerous place to be ahead of any general election, when more people (green line) think in hindsight quitting the EU was a mistake. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1588846276560715777/photo/10 -
Brockley, not that far away. The rainfall radar sums it up: a mess of light rain across the whole of England and Wales. Cold blobby drops from trees, oozy semi composted leaf piles with hidden dogshit surprises, so little light you can see the glow of people’s mobiles as they trudge along the street.Andy_JS said:
Whereabouts? It's okay in Brentwood which is where I am atm.TimS said:OT, the weather today is biblically awful. November is God’s punishment for something.
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"armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
What was mistaken for various weaponry? Umbrella’s could be, to be fair to the Home Office u turn on weaponry.
How did the detainees deliberately cause the power out - or was it a power out that made them congregate outside where there was some light?0 -
Read stuff instead of just bloviating about it. 60% and 75% anti immigrant answers. Tory VI is lucky to hit 30% at the moment. Do the math.Martin10 said:
Its the tory strategy now...lets be beastly to migrants to shore up the core vote as they have failed everywhere elseIshmael_Z said:
Tis a Home Office press release. So stirring yes, press no.Martin10 said:
Think the media might be stirring things up to be honestkyf_100 said:
"Camp of the Saints" back to the bestseller list?Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
Here's some stirring
https://mattgoodwin.substack.com/p/britain-has-lost-control-of-its-borders
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LONDON. Michaelmas Term lately over, and the Lord Chancellor sitting in Lincoln’s Inn Hall. Implacable November weather. As much mud in the streets as if the waters had but newly retired from the face of the earth, and it would not be wonderful to meet a Megalosaurus, forty feet long or so, waddling like an elephantine lizard up Holborn Hill. Smoke lowering down from chimney-pots, making a soft black drizzle, with flakes of soot in it as big as full-grown snow-flakes, gone into mourning, one might imagine, for the death of the sun. Dogs, undistinguishable in mire. Horses, scarcely better; splashed to their very blinkers. Foot passengers, jostling one another’s umbrellas in a general infection of ill-temper, and losing their foot-hold at street-corners, where tens of thousands of other foot passengers have been slipping and sliding since the day broke (if the day ever broke), adding new deposits to the crust upon crust of mud, sticking at those points tenaciously to the pavement, and accumulating at compound interest.Ishmael_Z said:
No sun — no moon!Martin10 said:
November is a month with no redeeming qualities..dark nights that get darker and miserable weather...the worst month of the yearAndy_JS said:
Whereabouts? It's okay in Brentwood which is where I am atm.TimS said:OT, the weather today is biblically awful. November is God’s punishment for something.
No morn — no noon —
No dawn — no dusk — no proper time of day.
No warmth, no cheerfulness, no healthful ease,
No comfortable feel in any member —
No shade, no shine, no butterflies, no bees,
No fruits, no flowers, no leaves, no birds! —
November!
Thomas Hood
ETA but I will take it over Jan/Feb/Mar/most of Apr
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Lot to do from here! I think we're behind now 😡0
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Let’s ignore the religious overtones here - that’s just US specific. Not crazy, just different.
More interesting is the defensive doom-landed tone. You need a fighter/protector because you are under threat and only I can save you. Proto-fascist rather fascist in my view, but the strong man motif (and the positioning as the Chosen One) certainly has the potential to develop that way1 -
Also being rich means you can access deluxe grooming products.Martin10 said:
Its because rich men attract more attractive women...darwinism in actionIshmael_Z said:
Genetically, or clothes and make up?Scott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.0 -
Why in the name of God would you deduce from my posting the story that I think any of that?StillWaters said:
These are people who have been ordered by a court to be detained, or who are in the asylum process but deemed to be a flight risk.Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
Do you believe that we should let them go on the grounds that they are prepared to used violence (and weapons) to achieve their objective? Do you believe that makes them more or less attractive to the UK as an immigrant?
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Relying on the youth vote to turnout is an absolute fool's errand. If I had to gamble (which I don't) I'd assume no youth surge and GOP comfortable winners of the House.nico679 said:
The big uncertainty is how many younger people turn out to vote on Election Day .Alistair said:Welp, Late surge of Dem Nevada ballots has raised their status from "Compeltely doomed" to "probably doomed". The 'firewall' is still way to low to give Dems the win but it is very interesting that they managed to increase it by a significant percentage yesterday. They need to add another 20k votes to be at a level to have any confidence.
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1588748515085164544
An interesting finding from a CBS generic ballot poll last week showed a huge difference in house seats if younger people actually turn out. The house was then 218 to 217 to the Dems.
I’m very doubtful about younger turnout but would love to be proved wrong .
What has been interesting in Pennsylvania polls I've seen is that Fetterman is doing better with over 65s than Oz. It is the 45-65 age bracket that is going strong fro Oz.0 -
We started at an incredible high point in 1913. Of course we are in relative declineswing_voter said:
I would argue that apart from brief moments of optimism under T Blair and Thatcher, successive UK PMs (incl those 2) have managed decline....... its a reality that British voters need to wake up to.Jonathan said:
Good old leaky Sue.Scott_xP said:NEW: @BloombergUK Saturday read
Tory MPs — including some in the Cabinet — are worried the Sunak/Hunt tax rises and spending cuts will go too far, killing off growth and their electoral prospects
One Cabinet minister says Sunak risks managing UK decline
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/tories-fear-sunak-is-just-managing-britain-s-decline-and-they-want-a-vision-for-growth
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It's a terrible thing to say but I always thought Iconic Beauty Princess Di was pretty average looking before the world class make up and couture and haircuts.kinabalu said:
Also being rich means you can access deluxe grooming products.Martin10 said:
Its because rich men attract more attractive women...darwinism in actionIshmael_Z said:
Genetically, or clothes and make up?Scott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.
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Braverman is a perfect example of how to lose 2 voter groups at once.
Red Wall sees her admission that illegal immigration is ‘out of control’.
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How can they think Sunak is a Remainer ? Further highlights that the Leave vote was made up by a lot of low information voters.Scott_xP said:Yesterday’s @thetimes /@YouGov polling found that many Leavers think Sunak is a Remainer, but most Remainers know he’s a Brexiteer.
That’s a dangerous place to be ahead of any general election, when more people (green line) think in hindsight quitting the EU was a mistake. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1588846276560715777/photo/12 -
Which is not dissimilar to Braverman’s language of “invasion”.StillWaters said:Let’s ignore the religious overtones here - that’s just US specific. Not crazy, just different.
More interesting is the defensive doom-landed tone. You need a fighter/protector because you are under threat and only I can save you. Proto-fascist rather fascist in my view, but the strong man motif (and the positioning as the Chosen One) certainly has the potential to develop that way0 -
"Fascist" has become an aspirational state in the GOP.StillWaters said:Let’s ignore the religious overtones here - that’s just US specific. Not crazy, just different.
More interesting is the defensive doom-landed tone. You need a fighter/protector because you are under threat and only I can save you. Proto-fascist rather fascist in my view, but the strong man motif (and the positioning as the Chosen One) certainly has the potential to develop that way2 -
‘Brexit was always going to be a slow puncture to the economy, rather than a blowout. But as any car driver knows, there suddenly comes a point when a tyre gets so flat the juddering noise is impossible to ignore – and the risk of damage to the rest of the car becomes acute.’
Anyway, read the full piece here:
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/brexiteer-sunak-should-watch-out-2024-could-be-the-remainers-revenge-election-19543590 -
To be fair that’s pretty much what you do with your dog 😂IanB2 said:
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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We were worried that you had visited Iceland for the natural splendour of glaciers and volcanoes.Leon said:Observation. Iceland is full of young Chinese tourists. I’ve seen them across the country. They are obviously wealthy, with expensive winter clothes
I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it. Maybe Xi has ordered all the plain ones to stay home, to promote China’s image abroad
It is comforting to know that you are actually there for the Hot Teen Girls.0 -
'Invokes God' ... as opposed to claiming to be uniquely created by god to go into politics on his behalf ?Leon said:
This advert is cheesy, silly, cringeworthy and peculiarly American, but I can’t discern a hint of Fascism. Where is it? The mere fact he invokes God?ydoethur said:
Your reminder that Leon thinks this guy isn't a wannabe Fascist.DavidL said:Bizarre
I can also see this ad working with less educated, religious Americans. Hispanic Catholic blue collar etc.
Not wildly different from Medvedev's remarks the other day.0 -
Indeed. Makeovers are well named. They really can. Time and money are equally required - but of course money creates time.Ishmael_Z said:
It's a terrible thing to say but I always thought Iconic Beauty Princess Di was pretty average looking before the world class make up and couture and haircuts.kinabalu said:
Also being rich means you can access deluxe grooming products.Martin10 said:
Its because rich men attract more attractive women...darwinism in actionIshmael_Z said:
Genetically, or clothes and make up?Scott_xP said:
When I was but a callow youth, I asked my boss at the time why (in my experience) the girls that attended the expensive private school we did some work at were universally more attractive than the girls at the local comp.Leon said:I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it.
His reply was "money"
So you have in fact answered your own question
Generally affluent women are more attractive than less affluent ones.0 -
Very drollStillWaters said:
To be fair that’s pretty much what you do with your dog 😂IanB2 said:
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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I think we should look at the failings of the Home Office to process people quickly and to deport those who should be deported quickly and to run these detention centres in a sensible way. The people at the top, Braverman, Patel, should take responsibility for their failings.StillWaters said:
These are people who have been ordered by a court to be detained, or who are in the asylum process but deemed to be a flight risk.Ishmael_Z said:A group of people at a west London immigration removal centre caused "disturbance" on Saturday morning, the Home Office has claimed.
No one was injured during the incident at Harmondsworth detention centre near Heathrow Airport, but the power was still out just before 9am on Saturday, the department said.
The Home Office initially claimed that a "group of detainees left their rooms" and went into a courtyard area "armed with various weaponry", but later withdrew that claim.
Sky News- breaking
So it begins
Do you believe that we should let them go on the grounds that they are prepared to used violence (and weapons) to achieve their objective? Do you believe that makes them more or less attractive to the UK as an immigrant?0 -
You've got older, so pretty young girls look prettier to you.Leon said:Observation. Iceland is full of young Chinese tourists. I’ve seen them across the country. They are obviously wealthy, with expensive winter clothes
I’ve been told they are generally “affluent Chinese students studying in the UK”
The young women are the most beautiful I have ever seen, as a group. More than 50% are stunning. There must be some genetic/evolutionary explanation but I’m still working on it...
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I wonder if there is a difference in fash danger level between countries where support for strongman authoritarianism is mainly among the old, and those where it’s the young.
The former generally seems to reflect nostalgic rural oldies who are reasonably financially comfortable but uneasy with the direction of society. Apparent in Russia with support for Putin, MAGA in the US, the Ayatollahs in Iran.
The latter seems the case in France with RN,
India with Modi and in some of the Scandinavian and E European countries.
Gerontocratic authoritarianism self-cancelling, young authoritarianism naturally growing?0 -
She's even managed to lose the Jewish vote gifted to the Tories by Corbyn. Offending Holocaust survivors was never going to go down well....Scott_xP said:Braverman is a perfect example of how to lose 2 voter groups at once.
Red Wall sees her admission that illegal immigration is ‘out of control’.
Blue Wall sees lack of compassion. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1588847767660945410/photo/1
https://www.channel4.com/news/holocaust-survivors-pen-letter-to-suella-braverman-over-migrant-remarks0 -
Not today, sadly (although constant rain would have kept the ball away anyhow); he's unhappy in kennels while I am I unhappy in Southampton being minutes away from having a camera pushed down my throat...StillWaters said:
To be fair that’s pretty much what you do with your dog 😂IanB2 said:
You could all focus on watching the men tapping a ball away with a stick and then running up and down while someone else goes to fetch it, and leave the rest of us untroubled by all the gripping details...ydoethur said:
Why can you guys not keep your mouths shut?!!!londonpubman said:Excellent start. All about staying focused, keeping cool and closing it out! 👍
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