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The US Midterms are looking more challenging for the GOP – politicalbetting.com

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,625
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
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    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    That’s not correct. They will simply stop people joining at all on Saturday evening. Those in the queue now (i.e. those wanting to do so) will be able to view it.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,445
    Leon said:

    Has anyone been on a “volcano tour” of Iceland?

    The Gazette has just asked me if I want to do one in late October. It\s quite intense. 8 days of yomping up and down volcs and glaciers with talks on volcanos in between, plus aurora spotting and Arctic waterfalls and the like

    Pros: it’s travel. NEVER TURN DOWN TRAVEL OR SEX

    Cons: I’ve been to Iceland several times. I’ve seen the best volcano in the world (Sirte Ale in Ethiopia). It will be fucking freezing

    Hmm….

    A family member has. Definitely say yes.
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    So The Queue is 60% "Remoaners"? Meaning that Brexiter's are deficient in proper British patriotism?

    Who'd've thunk it?
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,584
    carnforth said:

    carnforth said:

    carnforth said:

    Top class London hotels doing very nicely for the funeral. The Savoy, Mandarin, Claridges etc. are quoting about £1300 per night for ordinary rooms, up from maybe £600 before.

    The only "5 star" hotel I've ever stayed in in London, which was not very five star, is quoting £290 up from the usual £110 or so.

    which is that last hotel if you arent keeping it a secret for yourself? not heading to london this weekend but we do like to. would you recommend it?
    The Chilworth, London Paddington. Perpetually the cheapest "5 star" in London. I stayed during the pandemic for £65. It's basically four and a bit star. Excellent (and cheap) Indian small-plates restaurant off the lobby though.
    many thanks. I'll check it out for next time we visit. we dont normally do 5 stars, or even 4. the hotel we used to use never reopened after the pandemic. was pretty basic but we liked it and the location.
    Now that we have online review sites, finding a clean and decent three star somewhere like Victoria is actually quite easy. I hate to think what it must have been like before the internet. Thankfully that was before my time.
    I used the Which and annual AA guides - the former in particular. But there were obvious hiccups with a book published up to 2 years before you did the planning.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Has anyone been on a “volcano tour” of Iceland?

    The Gazette has just asked me if I want to do one in late October. It\s quite intense. 8 days of yomping up and down volcs and glaciers with talks on volcanos in between, plus aurora spotting and Arctic waterfalls and the like

    Pros: it’s travel. NEVER TURN DOWN TRAVEL OR SEX

    Cons: I’ve been to Iceland several times. I’ve seen the best volcano in the world (Sirte Ale in Ethiopia). It will be fucking freezing

    Hmm….

    A family member has. Definitely say yes.
    OK. That’s proper advice. I think you’re right. YES. Always say YES to new things. Or you become jaded
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    thartthart Posts: 139

    So The Queue is 60% "Remoaners"? Meaning that Brexiter's are deficient in proper British patriotism?

    Who'd've thunk it?

    London is a remain city though dont forget
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    thart said:

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    But would most vote Tory... so a very much Cameroon Conservative queue.
    it would also be interesting if the crowd there was a more anti or pro lockdown crowd
    Or what is the most represented star sign. We must be told.
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    The Queue has now become an institution. There are betters ways of handling it. This won't happen for future state funerals. The Queue is the pilgrimage.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748
    thart said:

    So The Queue is 60% "Remoaners"? Meaning that Brexiter's are deficient in proper British patriotism?

    Who'd've thunk it?

    London is a remain city though dont forget
    Reality.. knock, knock. Remain is no lomger an option. (Sorry if this seems rude)
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,899
    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.
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    yet another vicious attack on one of His Majesty's hard-working ministers, from the rabidly anti-British New York Times:

    NYT - U.K. Health Ministry Wants No Oxford Commas. Period.
    The directive discourages the use of the contentious grammatical device, and also encourages employees to be “positive” and to avoid “jargon.”

    LONDON — The government department that oversees Britain’s state-run health care system is confronting a number of urgent problems: too many unfilled positions for doctors and nurses, too many patients waiting for treatment, too many aging hospitals — and, according to a new directive, too many commas.

    The Department of Health and Social Care, which is under new leadership after Liz Truss became prime minister earlier this month, has told its employees to avoid using the Oxford comma — the contentious second comma in a series like “A, B, and C.” . . .

    Ms. Coffey . . . has made no secret of her distaste for the Oxford comma, with social media posts from more than a decade ago making clear where she stands.

    In 2011, she wrote on Twitter that she “cannot bear it and constantly remove it,” and two years later said in separate posts that “I abhor the Oxford comma and refuse to use it” and referred to it as “one of my pet hates.”

    Although it is associated with the English city of Oxford, the Oxford comma is not actually considered standard in British English. It is much more widespread in the United States, although American news organizations tend to leave the second comma out (that includes The New York Times, whose style guide advises that it should not be used unless a sentence is otherwise confusing without it). . . .\

    Defenders of the comma will point to the value in its precision. In 2018, a dairy in Maine resolved an overtime dispute with its drivers by agreeing to pay $5 million in a case that hinged on the absence of an Oxford comma in state law. . . .
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    pm215pm215 Posts: 933

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
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    thartthart Posts: 139

    thart said:

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    But would most vote Tory... so a very much Cameroon Conservative queue.
    it would also be interesting if the crowd there was a more anti or pro lockdown crowd
    Or what is the most represented star sign. We must be told.
    also what about sexual preference.....are they gays over or underrepresentated in the queue
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,920
    boulay said:

    The stunning success of Ukraine’s recent counteroffensive has exposed the rotten reality behind Russia’s reputation as a military superpower. More than six months since the onset of Vladimir Putin’s Ukraine invasion, it is now obvious that his army is in fact a deeply flawed institution that bears almost no resemblance to the immaculate fighting force of Red Square parades and Kremlin propaganda. Instead, the Russian military suffers from endemic corruption, low morale, and poor leadership, with individual initiative in short supply and commanders deeply reluctant to accept personal responsibility. Last week’s disastrous defeat in northeastern Ukraine will only worsen the situation, with officers gripped by fear as Moscow seeks scapegoats for what is shaping up to be one of the most shameful military defeats in Russian history.

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukrainian-victory-shatters-russias-reputation-as-a-military-superpower/

    I was thinking about that today. In the past the shadow of the “Spetnaz” loomed and was always referenced alongside SAS, Seals, Delta etc etc in guides to the world’s top special forces.

    Yet up to now I’ve seen or heard nothing that suggests they even still exist.

    Where are the Long Range Desert Group type operations carried out by these special forces attacking supply lines of western kit behind enemy lines, commando assaults in the dead of night in far flung Ukrainian air bases?

    Maybe it’s a cunning plan and they are biding their time and (to paraphrase The Usual Suspects) “The greatest trick the Spetnaz ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist,"


    It's a shame Tom Clancy is not around to rewrite Red Storm Rising.

    It would be a short tome, maybe 30 or 40 pages.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,920
    YouTube Music just recommended I listen to Moseley Shoals by Ocean Colour Scene - which I last listened to back in about 1998.

    And you know what: it's really good.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,920
    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    James O'Brien is now spreading conspiracy theories about the queue.

    @LBC
    'They could have conducted the ticketing system in a way that did not involve an enormous queue snaking through London.'

    James O'Brien deems ‘The Establishment’s’ choice to cause enormous queues to enter Westminster Hall 'completely deliberate’.


    https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1570713491195166721

    Asking questions about whether the queue could have been set up or managed better is not a conspiracy theory.
    James O'Brien deems ‘The Establishment’s’ choice to cause enormous queues to enter Westminster Hall 'completely deliberate’.

    That's not 'asking questions about whether the queue could have been set up or managed better'.

    That's stating that it was deliberately set up and managed poorly by a nebulously defined group he dislikes.

    That is a conspiracy, sorry Andy. He isn't simply asking a question, he's reached a conclusion, and its a crazy one.
    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,109
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Has anyone been on a “volcano tour” of Iceland?

    The Gazette has just asked me if I want to do one in late October. It\s quite intense. 8 days of yomping up and down volcs and glaciers with talks on volcanos in between, plus aurora spotting and Arctic waterfalls and the like

    Pros: it’s travel. NEVER TURN DOWN TRAVEL OR SEX

    Cons: I’ve been to Iceland several times. I’ve seen the best volcano in the world (Sirte Ale in Ethiopia). It will be fucking freezing

    Hmm….

    A family member has. Definitely say yes.
    OK. That’s proper advice. I think you’re right. YES. Always say YES to new things. Or you become jaded
    Bugger. Ah well, it was worth a try :smile:
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    PhilPhil Posts: 1,928

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    Biased to London residents perhaps? London voted almost exactly 60% remain.
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    thartthart Posts: 139
    rcs1000 said:

    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    James O'Brien is now spreading conspiracy theories about the queue.

    @LBC
    'They could have conducted the ticketing system in a way that did not involve an enormous queue snaking through London.'

    James O'Brien deems ‘The Establishment’s’ choice to cause enormous queues to enter Westminster Hall 'completely deliberate’.


    https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1570713491195166721

    Asking questions about whether the queue could have been set up or managed better is not a conspiracy theory.
    James O'Brien deems ‘The Establishment’s’ choice to cause enormous queues to enter Westminster Hall 'completely deliberate’.

    That's not 'asking questions about whether the queue could have been set up or managed better'.

    That's stating that it was deliberately set up and managed poorly by a nebulously defined group he dislikes.

    That is a conspiracy, sorry Andy. He isn't simply asking a question, he's reached a conclusion, and its a crazy one.
    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
    thats the old occams razor thing....i agree huge large scale conspiracies are relatively unlikely but small groups of people conspire behind closed doors all the time
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759
    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
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    boulayboulay Posts: 3,859
    rcs1000 said:

    YouTube Music just recommended I listen to Moseley Shoals by Ocean Colour Scene - which I last listened to back in about 1998.

    And you know what: it's really good.

    And reminds me of TFI Friday which would be on at this time and day as a good start whilst pre-loading to go out partying at University.
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748
    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    I did, and I've happily told anyone that asked.
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    edited September 2022
    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    Plus, who doesn't love the fact that Becks joins The Queue just like everyone else? Will there now be an avalanche of celebs who will want to be seen in The Queue!
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    DriverDriver Posts: 4,522
    rcs1000 said:

    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    James O'Brien is now spreading conspiracy theories about the queue.

    @LBC
    'They could have conducted the ticketing system in a way that did not involve an enormous queue snaking through London.'

    James O'Brien deems ‘The Establishment’s’ choice to cause enormous queues to enter Westminster Hall 'completely deliberate’.


    https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1570713491195166721

    Asking questions about whether the queue could have been set up or managed better is not a conspiracy theory.
    James O'Brien deems ‘The Establishment’s’ choice to cause enormous queues to enter Westminster Hall 'completely deliberate’.

    That's not 'asking questions about whether the queue could have been set up or managed better'.

    That's stating that it was deliberately set up and managed poorly by a nebulously defined group he dislikes.

    That is a conspiracy, sorry Andy. He isn't simply asking a question, he's reached a conclusion, and its a crazy one.
    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
    With James O'Brien, odds are very short that it's both.
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    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    What do you think we are going to do to them? Make them read the Guardian out loud?
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    thartthart Posts: 139
    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    seems its a Cameron conservatives type crowd...likely fairly right wing but soft left on social issues
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    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    24 hours now :lol:

    Night temps will be cold!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxDwDzAwEs
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,053
    boulay said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YouTube Music just recommended I listen to Moseley Shoals by Ocean Colour Scene - which I last listened to back in about 1998.

    And you know what: it's really good.

    And reminds me of TFI Friday which would be on at this time and day as a good start whilst pre-loading to go out partying at University.
    Ah, the banging and belting theme to sixties ITC series ‘Man in a Suitcase’ which was repeated by Granada plus in the nineties in the 6am slot.
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    Interesting that Republican (Putinist) election deniers ONLY deny outcomes of elections that they lose, but NEVER when they win.

    Of course as matter of strategy they almost always claim in the leadup to Election Day, that the outcome is rigged in advance. However, they drop this line like a hot brick when it turns out they won.

    Trump for POTUS 2016 is one example, and Bolduc for US Senate from NH 2022 is the latest.

    Reminds me of a famous quote by Norman Thomas, the perennial unsuccessful nominee for President of the American Socialist Party in early 20th century, who was nevertheless well-respected by millions who never did vote for him.

    On the eve of one of his many electoral defeats, Thomas was asked by a reporter, what his reaction would be IF it turned out he'd won the election and been elected President"

    "Demand a recount!" was the reply.

    BTW (also FYI) as a youth in Marion, Ohio, Thomas was a paperboy delivering the Marion Daily Star, published by . . . wait for it . . . Warren Harding.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,053
    Cranks and crackpots face the consequences of their lawbreaking.

    https://twitter.com/juststop_oil/status/1570697573882822656?s=21&t=iia_cUjaBeRJ1l-pVVD-MQ
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,533
    RobD said:

    Went through the queue overnight. Joined 10pm in Southwark Park, got to Westminster Hall just before 9am. Good atmosphere and well-managed, though the stop at around 4am for the rehearsal was painful!

    It's definitely a potentially dangerous environment for those lacking in stamina - I saw paramedics needing to help people several times overnight

    Any births in The Queue yet?
    Any conceptions?
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,116
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    Could always just postpone the funeral and keep her in the hall until everyone has had a chance. I’m sure we are all massively enjoying the whole thing (maybe not @CorrectHorseBattery or @CorrectHorseBattery3 but one of them has a new toy to do exactly what his old toy did yesterday😀).
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    paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,461
    AlistairM said:

    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    Plus, who doesn't love the fact that Becks joins The Queue just like everyone else? Will there now be an avalanche of celebs who will want to be seen in The Queue!
    i may be going out on a limb but i think The Queue will be remembered more fondly than Charles III.
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    I thought the country was now 60% Remain anyway.

    (Filtering out don’t knows).
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,053
    Omnium said:

    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    I did, and I've happily told anyone that asked.
    As a red wall remain voter I’d have done the same. Most people aren’t so vehement about leave or remain as the FBPE clowns or the Brexit equivalents.
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    I feel there has been insufficient interest in the news that the average Slovenian family will have a higher living standard than the average British one by 2024, and the average Polish family will surpass the British one by 2030, on current trajectories.
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    paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,461

    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    24 hours now :lol:

    Night temps will be cold!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxDwDzAwEs
    is it really 24 hours or are they trying to dissuade people from joining the queue atm?
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    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    Yes it is a well known fact that anyone who admits to voting Leave in London is summarily executed. We are basically the Taliban but with more quinoa.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,053

    I thought the country was now 60% Remain anyway.

    (Filtering out don’t knows).

    It doesn’t really matter what the country is now. We are not rejoining any time soon and why would the EU even want us back after all the trouble we caused them.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748

    I thought the country was now 60% Remain anyway.

    (Filtering out don’t knows).

    Maybe. 'Remain' is certainly not an option though.

    Tell me about 'Rejoin'!
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    56% Tory voters, in London! Didn't think there were that many of us left.
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,116

    I feel there has been insufficient interest in the news that the average Slovenian family will have a higher living standard than the average British one by 2024, and the average Polish family will surpass the British one by 2030, on current trajectories.

    Measured how? I’m always a bit surprised at stories like this and often, like a government budget, they fall apart on scrutiny.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759

    AlistairM said:

    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    Plus, who doesn't love the fact that Becks joins The Queue just like everyone else? Will there now be an avalanche of celebs who will want to be seen in The Queue!
    i may be going out on a limb but i think The Queue will be remembered more fondly than Charles III.
    When The Queue reaches its natural end, as must happen to all human things, we should have some kind of memorial service for The Queue. Perhaps in Westminster Hall. But it will be very popular, because we all loved The Queue, so we will probably have to queue to get in
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,217

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    On topic... I saw that NH Senate candidate and far right psycho Don Bolduc had swiftly resiled from his election fraud position and acknowldged that Biden is POTUS. He was deep MAGAworld and if he's turned things must be desperate.

    There's a lot of reverse ferreting going on on the American Right.

    Bolduc has repudiated his electoral theft position. Something, weirdly, that he believed in just a few weeks ago in the Republican Senatorial debates.

    Masters won the Republican Primary in Arizona on a "life begins at conception" platform. Indeed, he characterized his opponent (who had a rather nuanced position) as abortion rights advocate. Now he's the candidate, all traces of his previous views have been scrubbed from his website, and when asked about abortion, he said that he "like most Americans" was against "late term abortions".

    It's hard to know exactly what impact these (violent) shifts in views will have.

    But if I were the Democratic opponent of either of these candidates, I'd make it a "question of honesty".
    Classic 'were you lying or an idiot?' Vibes.
    Finally one I know the answer to. Both.
    Hmmm

    But was he a lying idiot or an idiot lying?

    Details are important.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 3,859

    AlistairM said:

    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    Plus, who doesn't love the fact that Becks joins The Queue just like everyone else? Will there now be an avalanche of celebs who will want to be seen in The Queue!
    i may be going out on a limb but i think The Queue will be remembered more fondly
    than Charles III.
    Bit unfair, Brits have always loved Queues, Charles is a relative newbie.

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    thart said:

    So The Queue is 60% "Remoaners"? Meaning that Brexiter's are deficient in proper British patriotism?

    Who'd've thunk it?

    London is a remain city though dont forget
    Meaning that Brexiters can't be bothered to travel to the Big Smoke for the Great Queen? And Remainers have nothing better to do, than layabout (albeit trudging along in upright position) for hours and hours and hours?
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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    thart said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    thart said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest official advice:

    "Entry to the queue has resumed
    Expected queueing time is 24 hours
    Overnight temperatures will be cold"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxDwDzAwEs

    wow even more suffering for the die hard masochists...
    Can we agree that they are not doing you or anyone else any positive harm? You sound as if you envy them qualities like enterprise, courage and loyalty in which you perhaps feel yourself deficient. As to whether you actually are deficient, I couldn't possibly comment.
    check your grammar...its those not them...i thought you went to Oxford.
    Fail on multiple fronts. Envy takes two objects: I envy him (object 1) his enormous penis (object 2). So, you sound as if you envy them (the queuers) those qualities (object 2). So English seems not to be your first language. Second fail I don't recall the issue of my alleged Oxonianism arising in recent months, so you seem to be a retread, since this persona signed up to the site 2 days ago.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,363
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
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    DriverDriver Posts: 4,522

    I thought the country was now 60% Remain anyway.

    (Filtering out don’t knows).

    The country is 0% Remain now, because there is no Remain...
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    paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,461
    MaxPB said:

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    56% Tory voters, in London! Didn't think there were that many of us left.
    the % shouldnt have been there.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,533
    .
    Dynamo said:

    rcs1000 said:

    thart said:

    Driver said:

    TOPPING said:

    fpt

    Random sample looking this minute at the live stream (for @thart if he's still with us).

    Asian woman
    White bloke (a rev as it turns out)
    White couple
    White woman
    White woman
    White woman
    White woman
    White bloke
    White bloke
    White woman
    White woman

    OK I am prepared to say that the queue to pay respect is pretty white.

    Don't like this double line business either. Would be well stressed if I was on the outer line.

    Anyway, enough with queues.

    11 out of 12 white, 91%. National total is 86% so not ridiculously out of line, if you'll forgive the pun. Especially considering that the queue almost certainly skews older than the population as a whole.
    86% was at the 2011 census. Net migration has average around 300000 a year since. Thats about 3,300,000 extra ethnic minorities over 11 years. That accounts to an extra 5%. So now likely around 81% white british. And of course London much lower. So well out of line
    Net migration is nowhere near 100% non-white.

    In fact, I would be very surprised if it was more than 40% non-white.
    Indeed. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/datasets/populationoftheunitedkingdombycountryofbirthandnationalityunderlyingdatasheets has the details, but would require some processing to get useful numbers out of it!

    But the top 5 countries of origin for people born outside the UK and now living in the UK are...

    1. India
    2. Poland
    3. Pakistan
    4. Ireland
    5. Germany

    But the top 5 nationalities for immigrants are...

    1. Poland
    2. India
    3. Ireland
    4. Italy
    5. Romania
    Either quite a few immigrants to Britain from India etc. hold Italian or Romanian citizenship or else I'm missing something. What is an immigrant if not someone born outside the country who now lives in it?
    An example: a lot of British nationals were born in Germany because their parents where working there.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,514

    So The Queue is 60% "Remoaners"? Meaning that Brexiter's are deficient in proper British patriotism?

    Who'd've thunk it?

    It is younger and may well have a London bias, but Remainers are 60%

    Interesting comment in the twitter thread that 56% would vote Conservative in an election, yet fewer than the national proportion support the death penalty. I wonder how many more were former Tory voters who have switched.

    It seems that these are the younger, gentler Tory Remainers that are so poorly represented in the modern party. Though of course the typical demographic is therefore Liz Truss!

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570757345961181187?t=UEd15FAKkESeFw-FElQREg&s=19

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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,217

    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    Yes it is a well known fact that anyone who admits to voting Leave in London is summarily executed. We are basically the Taliban but with more quinoa.
    {looks round guiltily}

    I thought it was people who don't know about guacamole that we are supposed to summarily execute?

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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Leon said:

    AlistairM said:

    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    Plus, who doesn't love the fact that Becks joins The Queue just like everyone else? Will there now be an avalanche of celebs who will want to be seen in The Queue!
    i may be going out on a limb but i think The Queue will be remembered more fondly than Charles III.
    When The Queue reaches its natural end, as must happen to all human things, we should have some kind of memorial service for The Queue. Perhaps in Westminster Hall. But it will be very popular, because we all loved The Queue, so we will probably have to queue to get in
    At the distal end, surely, at the furthest starting point, like the Monument marking the gfol.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    It seems to me less than 1%. It doesnt't matter, but where did you get your over 1% number from?
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    AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,004
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    I'm genuinely sad that I won't get to go. I've been away all week with work and now the French air traffic controllers are delaying my return. This weekend is filled with a wedding reception and kids football and then the time will be gone. I'm sure I will regret not being able to make it.
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    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    We had a good baseline from the Queen Mum, it was going to be more in demand than that. And limited by the logistics of how many people can pass through in x days and wanting the queue to be sub 12 hours (there are already people fainting etc en route). So in fact very predictable imo.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,363
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,217

    .

    Dynamo said:

    rcs1000 said:

    thart said:

    Driver said:

    TOPPING said:

    fpt

    Random sample looking this minute at the live stream (for @thart if he's still with us).

    Asian woman
    White bloke (a rev as it turns out)
    White couple
    White woman
    White woman
    White woman
    White woman
    White bloke
    White bloke
    White woman
    White woman

    OK I am prepared to say that the queue to pay respect is pretty white.

    Don't like this double line business either. Would be well stressed if I was on the outer line.

    Anyway, enough with queues.

    11 out of 12 white, 91%. National total is 86% so not ridiculously out of line, if you'll forgive the pun. Especially considering that the queue almost certainly skews older than the population as a whole.
    86% was at the 2011 census. Net migration has average around 300000 a year since. Thats about 3,300,000 extra ethnic minorities over 11 years. That accounts to an extra 5%. So now likely around 81% white british. And of course London much lower. So well out of line
    Net migration is nowhere near 100% non-white.

    In fact, I would be very surprised if it was more than 40% non-white.
    Indeed. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/datasets/populationoftheunitedkingdombycountryofbirthandnationalityunderlyingdatasheets has the details, but would require some processing to get useful numbers out of it!

    But the top 5 countries of origin for people born outside the UK and now living in the UK are...

    1. India
    2. Poland
    3. Pakistan
    4. Ireland
    5. Germany

    But the top 5 nationalities for immigrants are...

    1. Poland
    2. India
    3. Ireland
    4. Italy
    5. Romania
    Either quite a few immigrants to Britain from India etc. hold Italian or Romanian citizenship or else I'm missing something. What is an immigrant if not someone born outside the country who now lives in it?
    An example: a lot of British nationals were born in Germany because their parents where working there.
    Or, say, people of Danish extraction from Greece....
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    AlistairM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tory remainers massively overrepresented lol.

    Who is going to verbally admit to voting Leave in London? They have to be pretty brave to do so.
    Yes it is a well known fact that anyone who admits to voting Leave in London is summarily executed. We are basically the Taliban but with more quinoa.
    {looks round guiltily}

    I thought it was people who don't know about guacamole that we are supposed to summarily execute?

    So Mandelson survives?
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    It was completely predictable

    200,000 queued to see The Queen Mum in Westminster Hall

    The authorities rightly presumed a whole lot more would line up to pay respects to Her Majesty QE2, our longest ever reigning monarch, and one of the most beloved public figures in the world. What was unpredictable about that?
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,533

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    Good work.

    60% Remain!
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,514
    edited September 2022
    Foxjr2 is in London. Won't go to see the Queen's coffin, but will go to see The Queue.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,053
    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
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    Foxy said:

    Foxjr2 is in London. Won't go to see the Queen's coffin, but will go to see The Queue.

    Hard to avoid it!
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,913
    Leon said:

    AlistairM said:

    Leon said:

    pm215 said:

    the 4am slot tonight is "fully booked" by people in the queue already. and they deserve it more than some keyboard jockey who can hit "book now" faster than someone else.

    Right, this was the conclusion I came to -- you have to ration access on some basis, and the physical-queue method at least prioritises those who care deeply enough to give up a lot of their time to it; plus the basis for the rationing is clearly visible.
    Yes, exactly. The most royalist - like @Casino_Royale and @HYUFD - who are prepared to queue for 9 hours, get to see the Queen

    Not those who are just good at sitting at a laptop at midnight and pressing a button repeatedly for themselves and their mates. Or who are prepared to pay someone else to do it, more like. There are so many flaws with any other method, apart from the Queue. It is simple, democratic and fair

    LONG LIVE THE QUEUE
    Plus, who doesn't love the fact that Becks joins The Queue just like everyone else? Will there now be an avalanche of celebs who will want to be seen in The Queue!
    i may be going out on a limb but i think The Queue will be remembered more fondly than Charles III.
    When The Queue reaches its natural end, as must happen to all human things, we should have some kind of memorial service for The Queue. Perhaps in Westminster Hall. But it will be very popular, because we all loved The Queue, so we will probably have to queue to get in
    Whenever 3 or more Britons meet henceforth they shall form a queue and share a poignant moment that the lesser nations will never understand.
    It is not the moment, nor the memory of the moment, but the anticipation of orderly delay in advance of the moment that makes me British.
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    Foxy said:

    Foxjr2 is in London. Won't go to see the Queen's coffin, but will go to see The Queue.

    How long is the queue to see The Queue?
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759
    AlistairM said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    I'm genuinely sad that I won't get to go. I've been away all week with work and now the French air traffic controllers are delaying my return. This weekend is filled with a wedding reception and kids football and then the time will be gone. I'm sure I will regret not being able to make it.
    This is no joke, I’m actually looking forward to seeing The Queue

    I can’t believe I typed that sincerely, but I did. I’m going to walk the whole length of the queue on Sunday. Ooh!

    I reckon the Queue should be permanent. The same way we kept the London Eye even tho it was meant to be temporary
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,584
    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Scots like fried sliced clootie dumpling with bacon, egg, mushrooms, sausage, etc. on Boxing Day, and any other Day. But not too often ...
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,363
    Omnium said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    It seems to me less than 1%. It doesnt't matter, but where did you get your over 1% number from?
    A guess.
    But throughput must be about 1 per second, and I know a million seconds is about 11 days, and she will lie in state for just over half that time, which works out close to 600,000 people.
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    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    Good work.

    60% Remain!
    It's perhaps the first cultural event that has significantly divided the Remainer faction.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,053
    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Scots like fried sliced clootie dumpling with bacon, egg, mushrooms, sausage, etc. on Boxing Day, and any other Day. But not too often ...
    A heart attack on a plate ?
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,584

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    We had a good baseline from the Queen Mum, it was going to be more in demand than that. And limited by the logistics of how many people can pass through in x days and wanting the queue to be sub 12 hours (there are already people fainting etc en route). So in fact very predictable imo.
    Some already in London, tbf. But that survey should clear up the point.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,625
    MaxPB said:

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    56% Tory voters, in London! Didn't think there were that many of us left.
    The Truss Effect.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    Good work.

    60% Remain!
    It's perhaps the first cultural event that has significantly divided the Remainer faction.
    I think the death of her Maj is the first significant post-Brexit event in the UK

    Everything else has been coloured by Brexit - even Covid and lockdowns - but this - a few nutters like James O Brien aside - is not tinged by Brexit, either way. It is something happening to post Brexit Britain
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,913
    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Lard or butter
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,533
    What happened in the Bolton by-election???

    CON: 55.0% (+44.1)
    LAB: 37.6% (-35.2)
    GRN: 5.3% (-2.6)
    LDEM: 1.2% (-0.8)
    REF: 0.8% (+0.8)

    No UKIP (-6.3) as prev.

    Chgs. w/ 2019

    Conservative GAIN from Labour.
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    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    Good work.

    60% Remain!
    It's perhaps the first cultural event that has significantly divided the Remainer faction.
    Also the Brexiter faction, into those determined to pay their last respects; and those who can't be bothered?

    Also clear from PB, there is a section of Brexiteers who are either republicans or at least non-monarchial.
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    Leon said:

    AlistairM said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    I'm genuinely sad that I won't get to go. I've been away all week with work and now the French air traffic controllers are delaying my return. This weekend is filled with a wedding reception and kids football and then the time will be gone. I'm sure I will regret not being able to make it.
    This is no joke, I’m actually looking forward to seeing The Queue

    I can’t believe I typed that sincerely, but I did. I’m going to walk the whole length of the queue on Sunday. Ooh!

    I reckon the Queue should be permanent. The same way we kept the London Eye even tho it was meant to be temporary
    A friend pointed out that it would be much quicker for everyone who wants to see the Queen to form a line and then for the Queen's coffin to be driven slowly past the queue. I still think it was a mistake not to have sent her down by train from Edinburgh, which would have achieved a similar purpose. I feel bad not to be doing the queue especially as it starts nit far from us in SE London, but I don't think I have 8 hours spare this weekend unfortunately.
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    If we replaced "The Queue" with an airport travelator style conveyor belt THINK OF THE THROUGHPUT WE COULD ACHIEVE.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,625
    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Scots like fried sliced clootie dumpling with bacon, egg, mushrooms, sausage, etc. on Boxing Day, and any other Day. But not too often ...
    A fascinating and superior civilization you have there on the basis of that.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,363

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    We had a good baseline from the Queen Mum, it was going to be more in demand than that. And limited by the logistics of how many people can pass through in x days and wanting the queue to be sub 12 hours (there are already people fainting etc en route). So in fact very predictable imo.
    We did - but I don't remember anything on this scale for the QM.
    The number of keen royalists I know in real life is zero. All the monarchists I know are monarchists in the "don't see a republic would be any better" mould. And yet, here they all are, and I wish I could join them.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759

    Leon said:

    AlistairM said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    I'm genuinely sad that I won't get to go. I've been away all week with work and now the French air traffic controllers are delaying my return. This weekend is filled with a wedding reception and kids football and then the time will be gone. I'm sure I will regret not being able to make it.
    This is no joke, I’m actually looking forward to seeing The Queue

    I can’t believe I typed that sincerely, but I did. I’m going to walk the whole length of the queue on Sunday. Ooh!

    I reckon the Queue should be permanent. The same way we kept the London Eye even tho it was meant to be temporary
    A friend pointed out that it would be much quicker for everyone who wants to see the Queen to form a line and then for the Queen's coffin to be driven slowly past the queue. I still think it was a mistake not to have sent her down by train from Edinburgh, which would have achieved a similar purpose. I feel bad not to be doing the queue especially as it starts nit far from us in SE London, but I don't think I have 8 hours spare this weekend unfortunately.

    It’s very close to being too late anyway. The wait is now 24 hours and rising. I’m guessing they will close the queue some time tomorrow

    The Queue is Dying

    *sob*


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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited September 2022
    As part of the Remainer-metropolitan-liberal-elite conspiracy, I will probably be turning out to watch the Queen's procession on Monday lunchtime, as she will be passing very near where I currently am in West London.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,584
    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Scots like fried sliced clootie dumpling with bacon, egg, mushrooms, sausage, etc. on Boxing Day, and any other Day. But not too often ...
    A heart attack on a plate ?
    Or fried s.c.d. with custard or brandy sauce or butter for afters at dinner.

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    kle4 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    60% Remain!
    56% Tory voters, in London! Didn't think there were that many of us left.
    The Truss Effect.
    So The Queue is just an excuse, so they have a chance of maybe seeing the Prime Minister in "action"?
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,913

    What happened in the Bolton by-election???

    CON: 55.0% (+44.1)
    LAB: 37.6% (-35.2)
    GRN: 5.3% (-2.6)
    LDEM: 1.2% (-0.8)
    REF: 0.8% (+0.8)

    No UKIP (-6.3) as prev.

    Chgs. w/ 2019

    Conservative GAIN from Labour.

    They are sick of Bolton Labour being shit
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    boulayboulay Posts: 3,859
    IshmaelZ said:

    thart said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    thart said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest official advice:

    "Entry to the queue has resumed
    Expected queueing time is 24 hours
    Overnight temperatures will be cold"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxDwDzAwEs

    wow even more suffering for the die hard masochists...
    Can we agree that they are not doing you or anyone else any positive harm? You sound as if you envy them qualities like enterprise, courage and loyalty in which you perhaps feel yourself deficient. As to whether you actually are deficient, I couldn't possibly comment.
    check your grammar...its those not them...i thought you went to Oxford.
    Fail on multiple fronts. Envy takes two objects: I envy him (object 1) his enormous penis (object 2). So, you sound as if you envy them (the queuers) those qualities (object 2). So English seems not to be your first language. Second fail I don't recall the issue of my alleged Oxonianism arising in recent months, so you seem to be a retread, since this persona signed up to the site 2 days ago.
    I noticed the last part too. I’m thinking someone somewhere is sitting with a spreadsheet listing identifiers to build up profiles - was asked about my username the other day too so wouldn’t be surprised if Pravda suddenly has a story about a British politician named after his idol Patti Boulay posting anti-Liz Truss things comes along.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748

    If we replaced "The Queue" with an airport travelator style conveyor belt THINK OF THE THROUGHPUT WE COULD ACHIEVE.

    Efficiency in doing something rather pointless isn't a great gain.
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    Leon said:

    Who is in the queue?

    Thread:

    Much speculation about who’s in #TheQueue and why, but little evidence. That is, until a doughty band of @uniessexgovt researchers began a survey (using the kinds of methods developed for studying protests). Survey ongoing but here are snippets based on the first 300 responses.

    https://twitter.com/robjohns75/status/1570756794015948802

    Good work.

    60% Remain!
    It's perhaps the first cultural event that has significantly divided the Remainer faction.
    I think the death of her Maj is the first significant post-Brexit event in the UK

    Everything else has been coloured by Brexit - even Covid and lockdowns - but this - a few nutters like James O Brien aside - is not tinged by Brexit, either way. It is something happening to post Brexit Britain
    You may be onto something there.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759
    I’m trying to work out a decent place to watch the cortège,

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/16/queen-elizabeth-ii-state-funeral-monday-minute-by-minute-guide/

    it will all be chocka but I reckon Constitution Hill or the Wellington Arch might be do-able if you get there early
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,363

    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Lard or butter
    I tend to use olive oil because I'm an effete metropolitan. Also, it's next to the cooker. I expect butter is better.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,584
    kle4 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Cookie said:

    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Scots like fried sliced clootie dumpling with bacon, egg, mushrooms, sausage, etc. on Boxing Day, and any other Day. But not too often ...
    A fascinating and superior civilization you have there on the basis of that.
    As Burns, Hume, Scott, Telford, Stevenson, Banks, etc. etc. would all say.
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    Leon said:

    AlistairM said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    I'm genuinely sad that I won't get to go. I've been away all week with work and now the French air traffic controllers are delaying my return. This weekend is filled with a wedding reception and kids football and then the time will be gone. I'm sure I will regret not being able to make it.
    This is no joke, I’m actually looking forward to seeing The Queue

    I can’t believe I typed that sincerely, but I did. I’m going to walk the whole length of the queue on Sunday. Ooh!

    I reckon the Queue should be permanent. The same way we kept the London Eye even tho it was meant to be temporary
    A friend pointed out that it would be much quicker for everyone who wants to see the Queen to form a line and then for the Queen's coffin to be driven slowly past the queue. I still think it was a mistake not to have sent her down by train from Edinburgh, which would have achieved a similar purpose. I feel bad not to be doing the queue especially as it starts nit far from us in SE London, but I don't think I have 8 hours spare this weekend unfortunately.

    It’s very close to being too late anyway. The wait is now 24 hours and rising. I’m guessing they will close the queue some time tomorrow

    The Queue is Dying

    *sob*


    Do not worry. There will soon be a meta-queue to honour the memory of the queue, so you can queue to remember the queue to remember the Queen.

    It would be very appropriate in this digital age.
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    Omnium said:

    If we replaced "The Queue" with an airport travelator style conveyor belt THINK OF THE THROUGHPUT WE COULD ACHIEVE.

    Efficiency in doing something rather pointless isn't a great gain.
    I reckon we combine it with something from Randall Munroe's (XKCD guy) book "What If", which was basically how long does it take for everyone to meet their soulmate if you put two lines of people together so that everyone in the world looks at everyone else (or such-like)
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,913
    Cookie said:

    Taz said:

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    Carnyx said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

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    thart said:

    thart said:

    I hate Putin and I think the Queen stuff is now ridiculous. Come at me

    i dont think thats allowed...if you are slightly against the monarchy you are obviously pro Putin according to some on here
    People seem to be calling you a troll because they don’t have anything to actually debate you with, pathetic.
    yes and i havent even mentioned Putin once if you look at my posts.....
    Horse clearly isn't a troll because he's been here for years and we know something of his foibles.

    thart may or may not be a troll but he is newly arrived and he punctuates and capitalises in a very similar manner to some we have had from Russia in the past. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what happens :smiley:
    I feel slightly responsible for him because he leapt into action when I posted some innocent (I thought) musings about the onlookers as HMQ went BP to P of W. I can't help seeing parallels between his findings of racism in the UK and a well known tyranny's diagnosis of Nazism in countries it proposes to invade.
    In general I think we should refrain from the troll-hunting stuff, as it can act as a deterrent against legitimate posters expressing views that they're perfectly entitled to hold. It's one of those irregular verbs:

    I am the epitome of moderate opinion
    You are batshit crazy
    He is a troll
    You are right of course. All we are seeing here is low effort contrarianism.
    Oh no we're not.
    You're both wrong about that.
    I know ****ing Sainsburys were trying to push mince pies at me yesterday but this is just not Christmas yet.
    I like mince pies, wish you could get them all year round. Also blue Stilton is my favourite cheese (actually you can get that all year, it just plummets in price in December).
    Me too, which is the problem.
    I buy mincemeat and puddings in bulk after Christmas when they cost literally pennies and then just have them as and when.
    Seconded (on the puddings anyway). I love a Christmas Pudding in July.
    Can I put in a shout for fried Christmas Pudding and fried potatoes for post-Christmas breakfast? As much part of the end of December as World's Strongest Man.
    Fried in what rendering ? Butter ? Olive Oil.

    Will deffo give it a bash this Xmas. 👍
    Lard or butter
    I tend to use olive oil because I'm an effete metropolitan. Also, it's next to the cooker. I expect butter is better.
    Butter is always better! Especially for fried bread i find
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,759
    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There isn't going to be enough time for everyone to view the coffin who wants to do so. Regrettable.

    Predictable.
    Inevitable
    I don't think it was predictable.
    I genuinely wouldn't have thought a week ago that over 1% of the population would be prepared to go to London and queue for an entire day for 5 seconds looking at a box.
    And yet - and this is from someone of a republican bent who finds pageantry tedious and whose hackles are raised by phrases like "your highness" - were it not for parental duties, I'd go tomorrow.
    The Queue is the best thing we've done in years.
    Plus, I genuinely did like the Queen.
    We had a good baseline from the Queen Mum, it was going to be more in demand than that. And limited by the logistics of how many people can pass through in x days and wanting the queue to be sub 12 hours (there are already people fainting etc en route). So in fact very predictable imo.
    We did - but I don't remember anything on this scale for the QM.
    The number of keen royalists I know in real life is zero. All the monarchists I know are monarchists in the "don't see a republic would be any better" mould. And yet, here they all are, and I wish I could join them.
    200,000 queued for the QM

    The maths is not hard
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