Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
But how? Harry and Meghan don't want to be beholden to the obligations of royalty or the silly restrictions, but also want to talk about it, since otherwise they don't have a brand to promote the various things they want to do or causes they want to support. The 'working' royals can not respond but that doesn't solve the dispute, or they can respond in underhand bitchy fashion, which also doesn't solve it. One option is worse than another, but the fundamental issue is irreconcilable desires.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
I'm not sure I believe this.
They're not stupid. They know she's a self-centred narcissistic just as much as we do, and it isn't really anything to do with race. Because she made it all up.
The first rule of Megan is that eventually people learn the truth about Megan.
Meghan is NOT - by a LONG shot - the first self-centered narcissist to marry into the Royal Family.
She DOES appear to be one of few frogmarched out of the Firm, together with her prince-of-the-blood spouse, and the two of them (and issue) stripped of royal titles & dignities (rather like Chuck Norris in the old US TV western "Branded".
Contrast Meghan & Harry versus Sarah & Andy is the problem.
Regardless of the fact that M&H bear their own largish share of blame, zero doubt (at least in my fool mind) about that.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
I’m sort of hoping that the Royal Family have learnt from Charles and Di that arranging marriages for “reasons” doesn’t work. Also hoping that George marries whoever the hell he likes and not whether it polls well or ensures a Carribean Island stays in the commonwealth.
But yes it was their decision to sod off and they can’t expect to have their cake and eat it.
For the royals it does work, can you imagine if the heir to the throne was the son of Charles and Camilla not Charles and Diana?
The question has been posed before. The heir would probably not have encountered as much grief, as his parents would have been happy and content, and that is a good thing.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
I don't find it implausible that the generation of Charles' siblings haven't been particularly at ease or welcoming to her for cultural reasons. She's then compounded that with her own mistakes, and they have to fix it.
If the monarchy becomes a rallying point on one side of a culture war, as the British press and the other side of twitter have been very keen to make it since this conflict, and much more notably, the Queen would absolutely hate, it's future will be much less secure.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
I'm not sure I believe this.
They're not stupid. They know she's a self-centred narcissistic just as much as we do, and it isn't really anything to do with race. Because she made it all up.
The first rule of Megan is that eventually people learn the truth about Megan.
Meghan - or the Duchess of wotsit. Let's be polite and accurate if we are dealing with the RF. And btw congrats on your ordeal. It meant a lot to you.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
There are billions of people more worthy of sympathy than Meghan Markle. She's one of the wealthiest 0.1% in this country and the USA. The problems of titled multi-millionaires are very small beer.
it will all be chocka but I reckon Constitution Hill or the Wellington Arch might be do-able if you get there early
Just get in the queue mate and tough it out.
You'll regret it for the rest of your life if you don't.
I am going to try it tomorrow evening.
Leon is at least doing his bit but will need to get their very early on Monday to get a viewing spot as the cortege is only going from Westminster Hall to Westminster Abbey. Otherwise anywhere on the final journey back to Windsor
Isn't the cortege going on from Westminster Abbey to Hyde Park Corner? I can't imagine they would train up 100+ matelots just to pull her 100yds.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
I'm not sure I believe this.
They're not stupid. They know she's a self-centred narcissistic just as much as we do, and it isn't really anything to do with race. Because she made it all up.
The first rule of Megan is that eventually people learn the truth about Megan.
Meghan is NOT - by a LONG shot - the first self-centered narcissist to marry into the Royal Family.
She DOES appear to be one of few frogmarched out of the Firm, together with her prince-of-the-blood spouse, and the two of them (and issue) stripped of royal titles & dignities (rather like Chuck Norris in the old US TV western "Branded".
Contrast Meghan & Harry versus Sarah & Andy is the problem.
Regardless of the fact that M&H bear their own largish share of blame, zero doubt (at least in my fool mind) about that.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
I don't find it implausible that the generation of Charles' siblings haven't been particularly at ease or welcoming to her for cultural reasons. She's then compounded that with her own mistakes, and they have to fix it.
If the monarchy becomes a rallying point on one side of a culture war, as the British press and the other side of twitter have been very keen to make it since this conflict, and much more notably, the Queen would absolutely hate, it's future will be much less secure.
It won't be. For starters William is pretty Woke and Charles is an eco warrior, both of which appeal to the liberal left while the history and tradition still appeals to conservatives
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Absolutely bonkers.
If you want the monarchy to survive the idea that George would be “told” to marry someone would ensure it’s unpopularity.
As we can see from the cabinet being BME does not mean anything if you are an idiot and most Brits can see that so they are generally more concerned about the person than the identity.
And the “working class ancestry” thing - I just don’t know where to go with it. Are we still going to be judged on a few generations ago? If so is she more or less working class than you - Marlborough v Tonbridge (apols if wrong)? Are her parents more upwardly mobile than yours? Who knows and who cares!
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
I'm not sure I believe this.
They're not stupid. They know she's a self-centred narcissistic just as much as we do, and it isn't really anything to do with race. Because she made it all up.
The first rule of Megan is that eventually people learn the truth about Megan.
Meghan is NOT - by a LONG shot - the first self-centered narcissist to marry into the Royal Family.
She DOES appear to be one of few frogmarched out of the Firm, together with her prince-of-the-blood spouse, and the two of them (and issue) stripped of royal titles & dignities (rather like Chuck Norris in the old US TV western "Branded".
Contrast Meghan & Harry versus Sarah & Andy is the problem.
Regardless of the fact that M&H bear their own largish share of blame, zero doubt (at least in my fool mind) about that.
Wasnt Diana stripped of titles and duties after the divorce, as well as security? contributing perhaps in part to her death.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Absolutely bonkers.
If you want the monarchy to survive the idea that George would be “told” to marry someone would ensure it’s unpopularity.
As we can see from the cabinet being BME does not mean anything if you are an idiot and most Brits can see that so they are generally more concerned about the person than the identity.
And the “working class ancestry” thing - I just don’t know where to go with it. Are we still going to be judged on a few generations ago? If so is she more or less working class than you - Marlborough v Tonbridge (pails of wrong)? Are her parents more upwardly mobile than yours? Who knows and who cares!
Rubbish. Diana was hugely popular, see her funeral, far more than Camilla was or ever could have been and that also filtered down to William.
The government is different as they have to make policy and laws, the monarch's role is just to be a symbolic ceremonial figurehead.
Traditionally the senior royals only married other royals or aristocrats, Kate's ancestry therefore is a huge change from that
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
I don't find it implausible that the generation of Charles' siblings haven't been particularly at ease or welcoming to her for cultural reasons. She's then compounded that with her own mistakes, and they have to fix it.
If the monarchy becomes a rallying point on one side of a culture war, as the British press and the other side of twitter have been very keen to make it since this conflict, and much more notably, the Queen would absolutely hate, it's future will be much less secure.
It won't be. For starters William is pretty Woke and Charles is an eco warrior, both of which appeal to the liberal left while the history and tradition still appeals to conservatives
It's not enough. To overcome the culture war in our modern age - as well as all the historical narratives stacked against in places like the Caribbean and US media - the monarchy has to appeal directly to minorities with visibilty and spectacle. The monarchy is living visual symbolism and spectacle.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
And The Duke of Normandy’s close ancestors were pirates and murderers. And his mother wasn’t even an air hostess - she was a canteen lady on a ferry.
Personally don't give a rodent's rectum for Meaghan.
But DO care about the future life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations.
That's my motive for urging KCIII & the Firm to reconcile the Drama Duchess & Harry back into the bosom of the Royal Family. In some form or fashion. No doubt limited (esp. for starters) but still a move in the right direction.
Unless you think working to reconcile families split by whatever's splitting them, is a BAD idea?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
Personally don't give a rodent's rectum for Meaghan.
But DO care about the future life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations.
That's my motive for urging KCIII & the Firm to reconcile the Drama Duchess & Harry back into the bosom of the Royal Family. In some form or fashion. No doubt limited (esp. for starters) but still a move in the right direction.
Unless you think working to reconcile families split by whatever's splitting them, is a BAD idea?
Rodents in your context ... just had a couple of glasses of rose while Mrs C makes Borders mutton stew with turnip and carrot ... sudden memory of the naked mole rat colony I once admired in the sciencey centre near the Tower in Seattle. Happy memories. It was in plastic tubing so one could admire every aspect of the nude nibblers in public. Rather like the Royal Family, really.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Somewhat further back all the ancestors were wandering round in Africa, naked, eating grubs and running away from scary predators.
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
And The Duke of Normandy’s close ancestors were pirates and murderers. And his mother wasn’t even an air hostess - she was a canteen lady on a ferry.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
I'm not sure I believe this.
They're not stupid. They know she's a self-centred narcissistic just as much as we do, and it isn't really anything to do with race. Because she made it all up.
The first rule of Megan is that eventually people learn the truth about Megan.
Meghan is NOT - by a LONG shot - the first self-centered narcissist to marry into the Royal Family.
She DOES appear to be one of few frogmarched out of the Firm, together with her prince-of-the-blood spouse, and the two of them (and issue) stripped of royal titles & dignities (rather like Chuck Norris in the old US TV western "Branded".
Contrast Meghan & Harry versus Sarah & Andy is the problem.
Regardless of the fact that M&H bear their own largish share of blame, zero doubt (at least in my fool mind) about that.
Wasnt Diana stripped of titles and duties after the divorce, as well as security? contributing perhaps in part to her death.
Good point. However, Diana never lost her status - and stature - as mother of the heir to the heir to the throne.
Thus don't think it undermines my basic point, at least not too severely.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Remarkable. You are probably never going to want to marry in to the royal family or send your son to Eton or leave him £10m free of inheritance tax, but your life seems to be dedicated to nothing other than the right of other people to do so (and giving the gays a hard time and maximising the unwanted baby count). What, if it isn't impertinent to ask, is in it for you?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
In parts of the US and the Carribean the departure of Meghan has become a modern culture-war and social-media shorthand for "colonial institution can't accept black woman". You can find tropes of this all over twitter.
The monarchy's global profile simply can't afford for that symbolism to develop further - it has to be dealt with.
When in fact Meghan wants to make it all about her rather than the institution. The total opposite of QE2.
I partly agree with that, but the British tabloids have also gruesomely bullied her because of her justified dislike of them, and there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was. Overall they're both to blame, but they have to urgently fix it, which there's some more encouraging signs of them finally doing , this week.
"there've also been elements of the royal family less welcoming and favourable to her than the Queen was."
I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
I don't find it implausible that the generation of Charles' siblings haven't been particularly at ease or welcoming to her for cultural reasons. She's then compounded that with her own mistakes, and they have to fix it.
If the monarchy becomes a rallying point on one side of a culture war, as the British press and the other side of twitter have been very keen to make it since this conflict, and much more notably, the Queen would absolutely hate, it's future will be much less secure.
It won't be. For starters William is pretty Woke and Charles is an eco warrior, both of which appeal to the liberal left while the history and tradition still appeals to conservatives
It's not enough. To overcome the culture war in our modern age - as well as all the historical narratives stacked against in places like the Caribbean and US media - the monarchy has to appeal directly to minorities with visibilty and spectacle. The monarchy is living visual symbolism and spectacle.
As I said if need be George will be told to marry a BME wife, though should be noted BME voters still support the monarchy 37% to 33% even if less than white voters.
US views of the monarchy are irrelevant, they don't care what we think of their Presidents and we should not care what they think of our royals
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Remarkable. You are probably never going to want to marry in to the royal family or send your son to Eton or leave him £10m free of inheritance tax, but your life seems to be dedicated to nothing other than the right of other people to do so (and giving the gays a hard time and maximising the unwanted baby count). What, if it isn't impertinent to ask, is in it for you?
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Remarkable. You are probably never going to want to marry in to the royal family or send your son to Eton or leave him £10m free of inheritance tax, but your life seems to be dedicated to nothing other than the right of other people to do so (and giving the gays a hard time and maximising the unwanted baby count). What, if it isn't impertinent to ask, is in it for you?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Somewhat further back all the ancestors were wandering round in Africa, naked, eating grubs and running away from scary predators.
I’ve done that. Not nice. Didn’t even have a bottle of warm white Portuguese wine to assuage my thirst.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Remarkable. You are probably never going to want to marry in to the royal family or send your son to Eton or leave him £10m free of inheritance tax, but your life seems to be dedicated to nothing other than the right of other people to do so (and giving the gays a hard time and maximising the unwanted baby count). What, if it isn't impertinent to ask, is in it for you?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Remarkable. You are probably never going to want to marry in to the royal family or send your son to Eton or leave him £10m free of inheritance tax, but your life seems to be dedicated to nothing other than the right of other people to do so (and giving the gays a hard time and maximising the unwanted baby count). What, if it isn't impertinent to ask, is in it for you?
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Nowt so queue as folks, as we say in Yorkshire.
by the way Bucharest in Romania is now richer than Yorkshire...go to Bucharest young man to up your living standard
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
I’m sort of hoping that the Royal Family have learnt from Charles and Di that arranging marriages for “reasons” doesn’t work. Also hoping that George marries whoever the hell he likes and not whether it polls well or ensures a Carribean Island stays in the commonwealth.
But yes it was their decision to sod off and they can’t expect to have their cake and eat it.
For the royals it does work, can you imagine if the heir to the throne was the son of Charles and Camilla not Charles and Diana?
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
HYUFD reminds me of the manager of a cow farm. Just be grateful he's not advocating AID.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
I'm not sure I believe this.
They're not stupid. They know she's a self-centred narcissistic just as much as we do, and it isn't really anything to do with race. Because she made it all up.
The first rule of Megan is that eventually people learn the truth about Megan.
Meghan is NOT - by a LONG shot - the first self-centered narcissist to marry into the Royal Family.
She DOES appear to be one of few frogmarched out of the Firm, together with her prince-of-the-blood spouse, and the two of them (and issue) stripped of royal titles & dignities (rather like Chuck Norris in the old US TV western "Branded".
Contrast Meghan & Harry versus Sarah & Andy is the problem.
Regardless of the fact that M&H bear their own largish share of blame, zero doubt (at least in my fool mind) about that.
She wasn't forced out, she quit.
Believe it amounted to much the same thing. M&H did their bit, so did the Palace.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
It's hard to agree.
well if it makes you feel better lets say the queue is full of little green men from Mars....lets just ignore the evidence of our own eyes
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Great idea - watch the Premier league tomorrow and analyse the racial make up of the teams. Then go back and analyse the make up of the fans racial profile. Then we can work out of the British are racist because our football teams that everyone supports are very unreflective of the racial makeup of the UK or the fans are racist because they are too white or they aren’t racist because they cheer on teams that have a disproportionate amount of black players relative to the UK population (obviously based on the last census rather than the one you are waiting for).
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
Great idea - watch the Premier league tomorrow and analyse the racial make up of the teams. Then go back and analyse the make up of the fans racial profile. Then we can work out of the British are racist because our football teams that everyone supports are very unreflective of the racial makeup of the UK or the fans are racist because they are too white or they aren’t racist because they cheer on teams that have a disproportionate amount of black players relative to the UK population (obviously based on the last census rather than the one you are waiting for).
its important because it has implications for the future of the monarchy in a modern multi racial democracy such as the UK
Did my latest analysis of the queue watching the livestream on itv 6:30 news. Counted 75 of which only 4 or around 5% were ethnic minority. 2 fairly large samples at different times of the day. I can say with confidence the queue is likely 95% white.
It's hard to agree.
well if it makes you feel better lets say the queue is full of little green men from Mars....lets just ignore the evidence of our own eyes
Come along. You're not making a proper argument at all.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Just such a shame it didn't work very well for your favourite royal. The one with six wives.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
Blackadder: If you can't make money you'll have to marry it.
Prince George: Marry? Never! I'm a gay bachelor, Blackadder. I'm a roarer, a rogerer, a gorger, and a puker. I can't marry. I'm young, I'm firm buttocked, I'm, I'm...
Blackadder: Broke.
Prince George: Well, yes, I suppose.
Blackadder: And don't forget, sir, that the modern church smiles on roaring and gorging within wedlock. And indeed rogering is keenly encouraged.
Prince George: And the puking?
Blackadder: I believe it is still very much down to the conscience of the individual church-goer.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
Sometimes one has to wonder if HYUFD is a parody account. Good work if it is!
Truss may not have the right answers, but she has asked the right question. Growth is the only game in town. If Truss manages to keep it on The Grid when parliament returns next month, her lost 100 days might not be fatal.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
im strangely attracted to Meghan even though i despise aspects of her personality. Kate does nothing for me at all
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
I’m getting Netflix “The Crown” spin off feels. If only we can think of a writer we could approach to put it all down in print.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Just such a shame it didn't work very well for your favourite royal. The one with six wives.
Catherine of Aragon was very popular, had he not divorced her and there been no Reformation Mary Tudor may even have been a reasonable monarch
Personally don't give a rodent's rectum for Meaghan.
But DO care about the future life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations.
That's my motive for urging KCIII & the Firm to reconcile the Drama Duchess & Harry back into the bosom of the Royal Family. In some form or fashion. No doubt limited (esp. for starters) but still a move in the right direction.
Unless you think working to reconcile families split by whatever's splitting them, is a BAD idea?
Rodents in your context ... just had a couple of glasses of rose while Mrs C makes Borders mutton stew with turnip and carrot ... sudden memory of the naked mole rat colony I once admired in the sciencey centre near the Tower in Seattle. Happy memories. It was in plastic tubing so one could admire every aspect of the nude nibblers in public. Rather like the Royal Family, really.
Your reminiscence in turn just reminded me of the woman who put the Pacific Science Center on the map, and used it as her springboard, ultimately to being elected the first woman Governor of Washington State.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Just such a shame it didn't work very well for your favourite royal. The one with six wives.
Catherine of Aragon was very popular, had he not divorced her and there been no Reformation Mary Tudor may even have been a reasonable monarch
A coin flip what-if - Catherine of Aragon has a brace of princes.
We would probably have the Wars of Religion replicated in England.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Just such a shame it didn't work very well for your favourite royal. The one with six wives.
Catherine of Aragon was very popular, had he not divorced her and there been no Reformation Mary Tudor may even have been a reasonable monarch
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Not working class either and William's father most certainly was noble. Neither of Kate's parents were aristocracy
And in a nutshell that is why I am a very reluctant Royalist. The Royal family is the keystone of the whole class system. Who gives a damn about the aristocracy and whether anyone is a member of it or at what level? Just a bunch of descendents of Royal bastards and corrupt robber barons and grafters tempered by the patina of time.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
You could have precised your story to "A friend of mine is full of s***".
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
im strangely attracted to Meghan even though i despise aspects of her personality. Kate does nothing for me at all
Meghan is beautiful, and minxy
Kate is also beautiful. But it is a colder beauty
It will be tougher for both of them in ten years time, perhaps particularly Meghan, who trades more on her looks
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Not working class either and William's father most certainly was noble. Neither of Kate's parents were aristocracy
And in a nutshell that is why I am a very reluctant Royalist. The Royal family is the keystone of the whole class system. Who gives a damn about the aristocracy and whether anyone is a member of it or at what level1111? Just a bunch of descendents of Royal bastards and corrupt robber barons and grafters tempered by the patina of time.
I find it an absolutely absurd system, but on the plus side, I am highly unlikely to ever come into contact with it
I was giving some thought earlier to what comes after the funeral and the return to normality. I have a suspicion many will not welcome a return to the normal rough and tumble of politics, and will expect some sort of effort at positive cooperation. Boo ya sucks just feels all wrong. I wonder if those that get that might not prosper somewhat. In other news i see my MP (Clive Lewis) is being a contrarian in the Guardian with some 'she wasnt all that' blurbage from his big book of tin eared Lewisisms
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
The RF had prole blood in it since William the Bastard. Indeed, as you claimed to me that Charles III is Scottish because he is said to be descended from Marie Stuart, I can claim with equal logic that he is a Norman prole.
William the Bastard was the son of the Duke of Normandy, some of the Duchess of Cambridge's ancestors were miners and her mother was an air hostess
Oh, so women don#'t matter? William the Bastard was the son of a tanner's daughter.
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
Fulbert of Falaise was Chamberlain of the Duke of Normandy. Plus present evidence disputes your claim 'later historians often referred to Fulbert as a tanner, and several recent scholars have assigned him this traditional occupation, but Elisabeth van Houts has suggested an alternative translation of pollinctores, that Herleva's family had been embalmers or those who laid out bodies for burial.[3]
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
Not working class either and William's father most certainly was noble. Neither of Kate's parents were aristocracy
And in a nutshell that is why I am a very reluctant Royalist. The Royal family is the keystone of the whole class system. Who gives a damn about the aristocracy and whether anyone is a member of it or at what level1111? Just a bunch of descendents of Royal bastards and corrupt robber barons and grafters tempered by the patina of time.
Yes but that is the WHOLE point, William didn't marry an aristocrat or royal, he married the daughter of two commoners neither of whom were aristocracy and whose mother was an air hostess and who had miners as ancesters. In turn the next King will also have that ancestry which will in turn make them more in common with the UK population and a 21st century monarchy.
Still royal, still not President Blair or President Johnson but adapted again to meet modern need
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
im strangely attracted to Meghan even though i despise aspects of her personality. Kate does nothing for me at all
Meghan is beautiful, and minxy
Kate is also beautiful. But it is a colder beauty
It will be tougher for both of them in ten years time, perhaps particularly Meghan, who trades more on her looks
I cannot wait for the Archetypes podcast with your stalker Sean Knox and Meghan discussing the importance of looks when you are a member of the royal family.
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
I was giving some thought earlier to what comes after the funeral and the return to normality. I have a suspicion many will not welcome a return to the normal rough and tumble of politics, and will expect some sort of effort at positive cooperation. Boo ya sucks just feels all wrong. I wonder if those that get that might not prosper somewhat. In other news i see my MP (Clive Lewis) is being a contrarian in the Guardian with some 'she wasnt all that' blurbage from his big book of tin eared Lewisisms
It's a nice thought but I suspect the usual sides will be arguing with each other both in the Commons and on here once the Special Financial Statement is made next Friday...
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
You could have precised your story to "A friend of mine is full of s***"
Literally and metaphorically.
Nearly everyone is.
Two exceptions I can think of, are Russian former work colleagues.
Both would tell the exact truth, to the point and beyond, of being fired from jobs. One literally did that.
Somewhere between scary and awesome to watch. A close Russian relative is close to that, but more circumspect - she would decline to answer in some way.
If it is a strand of Russian culture - and it seems to be - it is a splendid thing
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
And if George turns out to be gay? Or trans....?
well at one time there were rumours about Prince Edward
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Boring. I wouldn't have noticed she was black if she didn't go on about it.
My latest theory is, Harry married her as a ticket out of the RF as much as she married him as a ticket into it. But she is ridiculous in her own right: LOL at her alleged convo with an untraceable S African who said that the rejoicing at her gewtting married was = to Mandela getting released from prison.
She is infinitely more beautiful than Mrs Wales, in whom the skull beneath the skin shows up more clearly by the day.
Having pulled them both I would say that Mrs Wales is more strikingly beautiful and Mrs Sussex is more fun looking. I found myself trying to be too well behaved with Mrs Wales and enamoured by her glacial beauty but with Mrs Sussex it was margaritas, giggles and fun then a two hour lecture on why I was part of the patriarchy because i had allowed her more enjoyment than I had received in order to create a dependency on on a white man.
Some of the above names and events have been changed for dramatic purposes and any likenesses to real people or events are entirely coincidental.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
you certainly live life in the fast lane Leon...
I think it's more living life careening across all the lanes, over the pavement and crashing into a giant phallic object...
Chatting to a Bajan heritage lady today, very pro monarchy.
Reckons the way the Royals have behaved towards uppity Meghan Markle is why the Black Commonwealth will skedaddle ASAP.
The fire was there, the accelerant was added.
Have you told her it's all bollocks and the real issue is the way Megan Markle has behaved to the Royal family?
That's partly true and partly not, I would say, but it's simply too important for the Royal Family. She simply has to be brought back into the fold, if they want to maintain an appeal to the Commonwealth and minorities. The monarchy is about symbolism, and it won't be able to cope with and navigate modern culture wars without this symbolism.
Her children are still 6th and 7th in line to the throne, it was her decision to sod off to California.
If really needed George can marry a BME wife in 20 or 30 years
Your psychotic sociopathy is showing there, do you not remember what happened when Charles married a wife who was what was really needed?
Yes, we got the most glamorous and charismatic figure the royal family has had so far into the firm
And we all can agree it worked out perfectly. Unless of course you think The King messed her around - that surely can’t be the case - or that she was the problem - which also can’t be the case as she was charismatic and glamorous.
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
For the royals it did work out perfectly, certainly in terms of the heir. Charles too has now married Camilla just not had the heir with her.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
I sincerely hope not. He is a person who should be allowed the pleasures of life as much as anyone else.
The royal family has always arranged marriages for the heir to the throne, just no longer someone from the aristocracy or European royalty but someone who will appeal to the public and produce a suitable heir
It may have been that way in the past, but times move on and George has every right to find his own happiness as indeed should everyone
It was the way with Diana, to an extent it was the way with Kate who the Queen also approved of and it will also be the way with George. The marriage of the heir to the throne is the key way of ensuring the heir to the throne continues the brand to the next generation and via their first born too
Let us hope it is not as it is morally wrong and repugnant as is the rest of your paragraph
It is the way the royals have always done it whether you like it or not, arranged marriages for the heir and certainly at least a block on marriages disapproved of eg Wallace Simpson or Camilla when they might be mother of the future monarch
Because it has been done in the past is no excuse to continue the repugnant practise which you seem to condone
Tough, it will always be that way, to ensure the continuation of the line onto the next generation and to preserve the brand
And if George turns out to be gay? Or trans....?
If we had followed the Jacobean line we would currently have a gay King
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I haven't been following this whole sad mess much; is there anything solid to base that on aside from her word?
Maybe it just wasn’t the right match and leave it to George to decide. Seems to work for the PoW.
Doesn't seem resolvable to me.
She DOES appear to be one of few frogmarched out of the Firm, together with her prince-of-the-blood spouse, and the two of them (and issue) stripped of royal titles & dignities (rather like Chuck Norris in the old US TV western "Branded".
Contrast Meghan & Harry versus Sarah & Andy is the problem.
Regardless of the fact that M&H bear their own largish share of blame, zero doubt (at least in my fool mind) about that.
The British royals are ruthless, that is why they are still there, the Duchess of Cambridge has also brought some working class ancestry into the monarchy as well as sophistication. If some BME blood is required too to make a fully 21st century monarchy, George will be told to do the necessary
If the monarchy becomes a rallying point on one side of a culture war, as the British press and the other side of twitter have been very keen to make it since this conflict, and much more notably, the Queen would absolutely hate, it's future will be much less secure.
If you want the monarchy to survive the idea that George would be “told” to marry someone would ensure it’s unpopularity.
As we can see from the cabinet being BME does not mean anything if you are an idiot and most Brits can see that so they are generally more concerned about the person than the identity.
And the “working class ancestry” thing - I just don’t know where to go with it. Are we still going to be judged on a few generations ago? If so is she more or less working class than you - Marlborough v Tonbridge (apols if wrong)? Are her parents more upwardly mobile than yours? Who knows and who cares!
The government is different as they have to make policy and laws, the monarch's role is just to be a symbolic ceremonial figurehead.
Traditionally the senior royals only married other royals or aristocrats, Kate's ancestry therefore is a huge change from that
You can't sanely claim that the ducal blood somehow sanctifies the tanner's blood, and then go on to say in the same breath that the miners' and air hostesses' blood isn't obliterated by that of the present Duke of Cambs.
But DO care about the future life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth of Nations.
That's my motive for urging KCIII & the Firm to reconcile the Drama Duchess & Harry back into the bosom of the Royal Family. In some form or fashion. No doubt limited (esp. for starters) but still a move in the right direction.
Unless you think working to reconcile families split by whatever's splitting them, is a BAD idea?
Indirect evidence makes it unlikely Fulbert occupied such a lowly social status as a mere tanner, but rather was a member of the burgher class. His daughter Herleva was accepted by the Count of Flanders as a proper guardian for his own daughter, something unlikely were she born to a tradesman, while similarly the actions of two apparent sons of Fulbert in attesting documents for their underage nephew suggests a higher social status than a tradesman's sons would hold.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulbert_of_Falaise
Thus don't think it undermines my basic point, at least not too severely.
US views of the monarchy are irrelevant, they don't care what we think of their Presidents and we should not care what they think of our royals
https://www.britishfuture.org/jubilee-britain-monarchy-preview/
Like that a little bit.
Simon Durante-Day bids you a hearty "G'day mate".
And he is prepared to take a DNA test.
I find it more hilarious that Charles is a field marshal.
A friend of mine claims that Meghan sat on his lap outside a Kensington pub many years ago
He is also a significant heroin dealer - as in: supplying billionaires daughters. But he ALSO has brain damage from a fall when he had Covid
So his story is simultaneously dubious, believable and extremely titillating all at the same time
Blackadder: If you can't make money you'll have to marry it.
Prince George: Marry? Never! I'm a gay bachelor, Blackadder. I'm a roarer, a rogerer, a gorger, and a puker. I can't marry. I'm young, I'm firm buttocked, I'm, I'm...
Blackadder: Broke.
Prince George: Well, yes, I suppose.
Blackadder: And don't forget, sir, that the modern church smiles on roaring and gorging within wedlock. And indeed rogering is keenly encouraged.
Prince George: And the puking?
Blackadder: I believe it is still very much down to the conscience of the individual church-goer.
https://unherd.com/2022/09/has-liz-truss-trapped-labour/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixy_Lee_Ray
Years afterward, I worked for man who had helped get Dixy elected in 1976 . . . and helped get her un-elected (or rather un-nominated) in 1980.
We would probably have the Wars of Religion replicated in England.
Literally and metaphorically.
Kate is also beautiful. But it is a colder beauty
It will be tougher for both of them in ten years time, perhaps particularly Meghan, who trades more on her looks
In other news i see my MP (Clive Lewis) is being a contrarian in the Guardian with some 'she wasnt all that' blurbage from his big book of tin eared Lewisisms
Still royal, still not President Blair or President Johnson but adapted again to meet modern need
Two exceptions I can think of, are Russian former work colleagues.
Both would tell the exact truth, to the point and beyond, of being fired from jobs. One literally did that.
Somewhere between scary and awesome to watch. A close Russian relative is close to that, but more circumspect - she would decline to answer in some way.
If it is a strand of Russian culture - and it seems to be - it is a splendid thing