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  • The plastic Mackems are a disgrace.

    Shows you cannot buy class, shitty little club.

    FA investigating moment Newcastle staff member threw object at Liverpool bench

    https://www.thisisanfield.com/2022/09/fa-investigating-moment-newcastle-staff-member-threw-object-at-liverpool-bench/

    Lifetime ban for this twat who could have maimed somebody.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    Dishy Rishi at 17-1. Are we expecting any final polls out ?
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Pulpstar said:

    If only she was 100-1. Trying for 200-1 feels optimistic with her tbh.
    100 with skybet, coral

    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024/winner
  • Pulpstar said:

    Dishy Rishi at 17-1. Are we expecting any final polls out ?

    I took part in a YouGov poll of Tory members on Tuesday, I don't think it has been published, yet.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    MISTY said:

    Yes.

    Its just I remember a similar sort of enthusiasm on here in the run up to 2020, with the dems tipped to sweep Ohio, Iowa, Florida, NC, Texas etc, and mulling potential money making opportunities!
    Difference is you could get 10/1 on Crist, recently.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    TOPPING said:

    Matt famously makes around £650k.
    He might actually be the highest paid non-editor on Fleet Street

    There was some dude at the Mail, IIRC, who was on insane legacy deal which was over a million. But all those have now gone, as newspapers have cut budgets since the internet ate everyone's lunch

    It will be interesting to see if salaries (and freelance fees) rise again, now some are beginning to expand, once more
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    The plastic Mackems are a disgrace.

    Shows you cannot buy class, shitty little club.

    FA investigating moment Newcastle staff member threw object at Liverpool bench

    https://www.thisisanfield.com/2022/09/fa-investigating-moment-newcastle-staff-member-threw-object-at-liverpool-bench/

    Lifetime ban for this twat who could have maimed somebody.

    Pretty sure it's a paper dart.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    IshmaelZ said:

    100 with skybet, coral

    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024/winner
    Massive favourite longshot bias and free cash for bookies there. 839-1 with Betfair.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,673
    TimS said:

    I wouldn’t discount it. The approach has indeed worked well for them in the past, notably when Boris managed to win in 2019 on the basis of not being May (though Corbyn helped too).

    The opposition parties need to bang hone over and over that this is a tired Tory party in its 13th year of government. Emphasise the continuity not only with Boris and last last regime but with all the least popular ministers of the last decade.
    Yes - we've been putting out a very popular leaflet (with a cartoon which we commissioned from Marf, who used to grace this site) - theme is "Do you want ANOTHER 7 years of the Tories? If not, join Labour and let's stop it." Quite a lot of people really don't want to still have a Conservative government in 2029, no matter how much they shift the chairs around.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    Sean_F said:

    Biden's approval rating is still well underwater, even if the parties are tied on the generic ballot. The only occasions when the party in power has gained seats in the House, in mid term, 1998 and 2002, is when Clinton and Bush had very positive opinion ratings.

    Roe v Wade may make a difference, but it won't be that much of a difference.
    I think @MISTY is missing the context of much of the discussion, which is the change in expectations. A few of us took a punt on the Democrats for November at much longer odds.
  • Nigelb said:

    It's a poll.

    And from one of the highest rated pollsters.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

    Personally, I'd take their numbers over your gut feel.
    Big Biden speech tonight in prime time on threat to democracy.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    I expect the final polls will show a small tightening to Sunak, I've gone for 62-38 in Rentoul's google docs game.
  • Me likey. The untidy red deletion of the c-bomb is my work. Don’t want the ban hammer.

    And like all the famous bands, he'll be back on tour again within two years.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    Betfair POTUS

    Trump 7-2
    Desantis 4-1
    Biden 6-1
    Harris 15-1.

    After that it's Gavin Newsom !
  • Lock him up.


    Gary Neville has been referred to the attorney-general’s office for potential prosecution for contempt of court by the judge presiding over Ryan Giggs’s trial.

    Neville, 47, a friend of Giggs since they played at Manchester United, sent a tweet at 4am on the trial’s opening day, but it was not brought to the attention of Judge Hilary Manley until the morning of the third day.

    She discharged the jurors yesterday after they failed to reach verdicts. She added that she had referred the matter of Neville’s tweet to Suella Braverman “for the consideration of a potential prosecution”.

    A source close to Neville said that the Sky Sports pundit disputes the allegation, according to The Daily Telegraph. They said that the tweet he sent on August 8 was in reaction to fan protests against his former club’s American owners.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ryan-giggs-faces-prospect-of-retrial-after-jury-discharged-0q2hwdjx0
  • Big Biden speech tonight in prime time on threat to democracy.
    The recent one where he started talking about how easily the American government could kill its citizens and they'd need more than a gun wasn't exactly conciliatory.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,291

    Me likey. The untidy red deletion of the c-bomb is my work. Don’t want the ban hammer.

    Max weight for the Mk.16 seat is 130kg and the normal max weight for FJ crew is 105kg. I wonder if he would have made it out if it had gone tits up due to a birdstrike or uncontained engine failure. Broken back for sure at his age and fitness level.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486

    And like all the famous bands, he'll be back on tour again within two years.
    Just reprising the old hits for cash, too.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Pulpstar said:

    Betfair POTUS

    Trump 7-2
    Desantis 4-1
    Biden 6-1
    Harris 15-1.

    After that it's Gavin Newsom !

    Laying phatboi is beginning to look tempting
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204

    Lock him up.


    Gary Neville has been referred to the attorney-general’s office for potential prosecution for contempt of court by the judge presiding over Ryan Giggs’s trial.

    Neville, 47, a friend of Giggs since they played at Manchester United, sent a tweet at 4am on the trial’s opening day, but it was not brought to the attention of Judge Hilary Manley until the morning of the third day.

    She discharged the jurors yesterday after they failed to reach verdicts. She added that she had referred the matter of Neville’s tweet to Suella Braverman “for the consideration of a potential prosecution”.

    A source close to Neville said that the Sky Sports pundit disputes the allegation, according to The Daily Telegraph. They said that the tweet he sent on August 8 was in reaction to fan protests against his former club’s American owners.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ryan-giggs-faces-prospect-of-retrial-after-jury-discharged-0q2hwdjx0

    It's most infuriating to read this story without the blimming actual tweet being discussed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    Pulpstar said:

    Betfair POTUS

    Trump 7-2
    Desantis 4-1
    Biden 6-1
    Harris 15-1.

    After that it's Gavin Newsom !

    It could quite easily be none of those.
    I've previously laid both Trump and Biden - though I'm feeling mildly nervous about the Biden position, I'm not doing anything on that market until after the midterms.
  • Nigelb said:

    Just reprising the old hits for cash, too.
    Trouble for the Conservatives is that their fanbase is increasingly elderly and relying on nostalgia as the elixir of lost youth as well.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,884
    Matt Goodwin and Katherine Birbalsingh appointed to new government Social Mobility Commission

    https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1565340592221011970?s=20&t=Cocaj4MwUlY83BmOtIfYPg
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696

    Trouble for the Conservatives is that their fanbase is increasingly elderly and relying on nostalgia as the elixir of lost youth as well.
    We used to joke that Bozo would be the end of the Tory party - given the forthcoming crisis I really believe the Tory party will be doomed unless Truss comes up with a decent plan next week...
  • NickyBreakspearNickyBreakspear Posts: 785
    edited September 2022
    Two by-elections in Redditch today, one for the local district council and one for the county council. Last by-elections with Boris as PM.

    Arrow Valley West, Worcestershire County Council - C defence: C, L, LD, G
    Headless Cross and Oakenshaw, Redditch Council - C defence: C, L, LD, G.

    Andrew Teale's write-up. https://medium.com/britainelects/previewing-the-redditch-by-elections-of-1st-september-2022-97e6afbe220e
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,190
    Oh, goody :confused:

    "Warning Vladimir Putin may be creating 'false pretext' for Moldova invasion."

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1565346108074631169
  • CatMan said:

    Oh, goody :confused:

    "Warning Vladimir Putin may be creating 'false pretext' for Moldova invasion."

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1565346108074631169

    Invasion? With what? They are reported on using conscripted prisoners now in Ukraine...
  • CatMan said:

    Oh, goody :confused:

    "Warning Vladimir Putin may be creating 'false pretext' for Moldova invasion."

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1565346108074631169

    What with? Is he going to call up the over 60s now?
  • eek said:

    We used to joke that Bozo would be the end of the Tory party - given the forthcoming crisis I really believe the Tory party will be doomed unless Truss comes up with a decent plan next week...

    "For what it’s worth, the plan trailed in the Times this weekend – cutting VAT, raising the income tax personal allowance and possibly either cutting the basic rate of income tax and/or raising the higher rate threshold – is just about the worst macro-policy response to the current energy-driven supply shock I can imagine."

    https://duncanweldon.substack.com/p/a-series-of-unfortunate-fiscal-events?r=72szy&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,450
    edited September 2022
    MISTY said:

    Yes.

    Its just I remember a similar sort of enthusiasm on here in the run up to 2020, with the dems tipped to sweep Ohio, Iowa, Florida, NC, Texas etc, and mulling potential money making opportunities!
    The way to look at it is this, IMHO.

    In 2020, the Democrats had a 4% lead in the Presidential election and a 2.5% lead in the House. That gave a tiny majority in the House.

    Even if the 2022 result is exactly the same, the Democrats will probably lose the House due to boundary changes.

    But, nothing in recent polling suggests the Democrats will enjoy such a lead in overall vote share. In overall terms, a tie is probably the best they can hope for. So, the dial is already shifted 2.5 to 4% for the Republicans, compared to 2020. States like Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, New Hampshire, Arizona were very tight in 2020, so one has to assume they'll be very tight this time around. The general environment is a bit better for the Republicans, but poor candidate selection works against them.

    Red States that were not in play in 2020, are certainly not going to be in play, this time around.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    Sean_F said:

    The way to look at it is this, IMHO.

    In 2020, the Democrats had a 4% lead in the Presidential election and a 2.5% lead in the House. That gave a tiny majority in the House.

    Even if the 2020 result is exactly the same, the Democrats will probably lose the House due to boundary changes.

    But, nothing in recent polling suggests the Democrats will enjoy such a lead in overall vote share. In overall terms, a tie is probably the best they can hope for. So, the dial is already shifted 2.5 to 4% for the Republicans, compared to 2020. States like Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, New Hampshire, Arizona were very tight in 2020, so one has to assume they'll be very tight this time around. The general environment is a bit better for the Republicans, but poor candidate selection works against them.

    Red States that were not in play in 2018, are certainly not going to be in play, this time around.
    V good summary and I agree.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,906

    What with? Is he going to call up the over 60s now?
    Once he's conquered Ukraine he can call up the Ukrainians. And so on all the way to Paris.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,884
    Sean_F said:

    Ever since I've taken an interest in politics, I've heard repeated predictions of the end of the Conservative or Labour parties. It never happens.
    Exactly, the only way the Tories could have been ended as one of the 2 main parties is if May was not replaced in mid 2019 by Boris, Brexit did not get delivered and Farage's party overtook them
  • HYUFD said:

    Matt Goodwin and Katherine Birbalsingh appointed to new government Social Mobility Commission

    https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1565340592221011970?s=20&t=Cocaj4MwUlY83BmOtIfYPg

    Great appointments as long as it means Matt Goodwin will stop doing those annoying tweets where he pretends to be a dispassionate academic while actually being totally partisan.

    I have a fair amount of time for Katherine Birbalsingh who makes good points about education and culture. She's the sort of person who should support Labour, given her interest in fairness and working class aspiration, and Labour should be thinking hard about why she doesn't.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    CatMan said:

    Oh, goody :confused:

    "Warning Vladimir Putin may be creating 'false pretext' for Moldova invasion."

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1565346108074631169

    Make it stoppppp
  • @dwnews
    Germany's invasion and occupation of Poland during World War II caused losses amounting to €1.32 trillion, a Polish parliamentary committee determined.

    The head of Poland's ruling party says it would officially demand reparations.


    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1565334528570294272
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098
    Chris said:

    Once he's conquered Ukraine he can call up the Ukrainians. And so on all the way to Paris.
    {Yang Kyoungjong has entered the chat and been enlisted in whatever army is going}
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,616
    MISTY said:

    This comment barely stands up to scrutiny. If Trump was going out of fashion, the Dems wouldn't be trying so hard to take him out. They know that if they subtract Trump from the equation, his base do not turn up and they can win any election they like.

    See for reference Marc Molinaro, the nice cuddly candidate the Repubs ran in a Repub favourable New York special election recently.

    He's charismatic!! he's pro-choice! he distanced himself from Trump! and....er... he lost handily.
    But the Dems are not "trying so hard to take him out". What we are seeing are the actions of non-partisan law enforcement who are investigating him, probably because he keeps breaking the law.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    Ugh. I have a "macro" virus in my Word documents. Stopping me working!

    Anyone know what to do and how to eliminate the bastard? Windows Security cannot detect it let alone purge it
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited September 2022
    ydoethur said:

    She's got enough oil in her manner.
    But with gritty bits that you have to stop and poke at with your finger rather than let it flow smoothly. Someone's been at the sabotage.

    Seriously, though, I really do wonder what the hell was happening on PoW if the grease monkeys weren't doing their jobs. I wonder if it's even possible to feel the bearing to see how warm it is running.
  • Chris said:

    Once he's conquered Ukraine he can call up the Ukrainians. And so on all the way to Paris.
    "But Tsar Alexander made it all the way to Paris!" - Stalin in 1945.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,450

    @dwnews
    Germany's invasion and occupation of Poland during World War II caused losses amounting to €1.32 trillion, a Polish parliamentary committee determined.

    The head of Poland's ruling party says it would officially demand reparations.


    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1565334528570294272

    Surely, the reparations were Silesia, Pomerania, and the Southern half of East Prussia.
  • MeidasTouch
    @MeidasTouch
    Sarah Palin is not taking her loss well. Thoughts and prayers.

    https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1565282937599320067
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    {Yang Kyoungjong has entered the chat and been enlisted in whatever army is going}
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN5mJK8Zb1k (warning: the IJA armoured cars and the BTs are pretty crap)
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    MISTY said:

    V good summary and I agree.
    Maybe this is less fun, but I do have a tendency to rely on 538 and their model for the likely outcome.

    They are much more in favour of the Dems keeping the senate than other outlets (I know politico have the senate lean GOP still), but they seem to think the House is clearly likely to end up under GOP control. They were less bullish on the GOP earlier in the year, but the maps that have made it to election day are more GOP friendly than they looked like they might be back in the spring - partly because Dem controlled states had courts / oversight panels reduce the Democratic gerrymander, whilst GOP controlled states were backed up at every turn by their courts and even SCOTUS.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    CatMan said:

    Oh, goody :confused:

    "Warning Vladimir Putin may be creating 'false pretext' for Moldova invasion."

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1565346108074631169

    Are they referring to the inevitable upcoming official recognition of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic by the Russian Federation ?
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    148grss said:

    Maybe this is less fun, but I do have a tendency to rely on 538 and their model for the likely outcome.

    They are much more in favour of the Dems keeping the senate than other outlets (I know politico have the senate lean GOP still), but they seem to think the House is clearly likely to end up under GOP control. They were less bullish on the GOP earlier in the year, but the maps that have made it to election day are more GOP friendly than they looked like they might be back in the spring - partly because Dem controlled states had courts / oversight panels reduce the Democratic gerrymander, whilst GOP controlled states were backed up at every turn by their courts and even SCOTUS.
    Having said that, the post Dobbs outlook is more positive for Dems, and if the generic ballot moves further, Dems could still win.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-democrats-win-in-alaska-tells-us-about-november/
  • Leon said:

    Ugh. I have a "macro" virus in my Word documents. Stopping me working!

    Anyone know what to do and how to eliminate the bastard? Windows Security cannot detect it let alone purge it

    Malwarebytes is pretty good. You don't have to use it all the time just download and run one off when you need. The free version is fine or was last time I used it.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    MeidasTouch
    @MeidasTouch
    Sarah Palin is not taking her loss well. Thoughts and prayers.

    https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1565282937599320067

    I feel sorry for Tina Fey and Lisa Ann, who were I’m sure hoping for a revival in their careers as Palin impersonators.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612

    Malwarebytes is pretty good. You don't have to use it all the time just download and run one off when you need. The free version is fine or was last time I used it.
    TA
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098
    Carnyx said:

    But with gritty bits that you have to stop and poke at with your finger rather than let it flow smoothly. Someone's been at the sabotage.

    Seriously, though, I really do wonder what the hell was happening on PoW if the grease monkeys weren't doing their jobs. I wonder if it's even possible to feel the bearing to see how warm it is running.
    Lubrication feed is a pain on lots of machinery…


    Watts:
    [repairing the engine] Come to see the fun, sir? It won't be long now.

    Morell:
    Fine, chief, but the captain's a little worried about the noise. Could you do anything to... tone it down a bit?

    Watts:
    Pretty well finished now, sir. We're just flabbin' up the nuts. Could you hear the hammerin' up top?

    Morell:
    Hear it? There were U-boats popping up from miles around complaining about the racket.
  • Sandpit said:

    I feel sorry for Tina Fey and Lisa Ann, who were I’m sure hoping for a revival in their careers as Palin impersonators.
    Still time for Trump to make her his running mate, if he decides that Kara Lake would take too much of HIS media oxygen away from him.

  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,310
    edited September 2022
    Sean_F said:

    Ever since I've taken an interest in politics, I've heard repeated predictions of the end of the Conservative or Labour parties. It never happens.
    There's a second time for everything, though. And the Conservatives have set themselves a stinker of a problem to solve demographically.

    It's always been the case that people get more right-wing on average as they get older. But since about 2016, the effect has become huge. Really huge.

    I like this set of graphs because it explains so much, but I hate it because I wish it weren't this way;




    The Conservatives really need to do something to appeal to people who haven't made a pile by buying a house cheaply a couple of decades ago. At the moment, they don't seem to be even trying.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,050
    Exclusive: http://Leave.EU has gone into liquidation owing co-founder Arron Banks more than £7m.

    🧵⬇️
    https://www.bristolworld.com/news/leaveeu-goes-into-liquidation-owing-co-founder-arron-banks-ps7m-3823925
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Malwarebytes is pretty good. You don't have to use it all the time just download and run one off when you need. The free version is fine or was last time I used it.
    Yes, Malwarebytes is good.
    https://www.malwarebytes.com/ click the “Free Download” link on the left.

    Also, Trend Micro Housecall.
    https://www.trendmicro.com/en_ae/forHome/products/housecall.html
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    Sandpit said:

    Yes, Malwarebytes is good.
    https://www.malwarebytes.com/ click the “Free Download” link on the left.

    Also, Trend Micro Housecall.
    https://www.trendmicro.com/en_ae/forHome/products/housecall.html
    Coolm thx

    Will these weed out this virus? I haven't had a computer virus in decades. Odd
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    148grss said:

    Maybe this is less fun, but I do have a tendency to rely on 538 and their model for the likely outcome.

    They are much more in favour of the Dems keeping the senate than other outlets (I know politico have the senate lean GOP still), but they seem to think the House is clearly likely to end up under GOP control. They were less bullish on the GOP earlier in the year, but the maps that have made it to election day are more GOP friendly than they looked like they might be back in the spring - partly because Dem controlled states had courts / oversight panels reduce the Democratic gerrymander, whilst GOP controlled states were backed up at every turn by their courts and even SCOTUS.
    It's an odd one, though.

    The Colorado race, for example, where the market has the Dems as 7/1 favourites, is polling unexpectedly close. (The Republican candidate has also expressed a wish for Trump to disappear from national politics.)

    I bet against the Republicans much earlier, and I'm tempted to lock in some profits.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    There's a second time for everything, though. And the Conservatives have set themselves a stinker of a problem to solve demographically.

    It's always been the case that people get more right-wing on average as they get older. But since about 2016, the effect has become huge. Really huge.

    I like this set of graphs because it explains so much, but I hate it because I wish it weren't this way;




    The Conservatives really need to do something to appeal to people who haven't made a pile by buying a house cheaply a couple of decades ago. At the moment, they don't seem to be even trying.
    That's really striking. Was there a Scottish equivalent, by any chance? I'm wondering if Labour are sort of mini-Tories there too, or if it's a mixture.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Leon said:

    Coolm thx

    Will these weed out this virus? I haven't had a computer virus in decades. Odd
    They should do, if it’s a known virus.

    If you want a hint, the best thing you can do to protect your computer is to set up a second user account, make that account administrator and make your normal user a “standard” user. That way, to install anything you have to type the administrator account’s password, which should make you stop and think why you’re been asked to do it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    Even as a kid I suspected they might be dangerous subversives.

    The Monkees’ last-living member sues FBI for secret files on the band
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/31/monkees-lawsuit-fbi/
  • Carnyx said:

    That's really striking. Was there a Scottish equivalent, by any chance? I'm wondering if Labour are sort of mini-Tories there too, or if it's a mixture.
    Dunno, haven't seen one. I assume the UK split is you-know-what-from-2016 in disguise. Is there a similar age split for Sindy views?
  • DynamoDynamo Posts: 651
    edited September 2022
    TOPPING said:

    Voxpops from Russia and from some various high-ups in various Russian administrations universally critical of Gorbachev, interestingly.
    The big Russian pendulum is high up on the Slavophile side now. Gorbachev was a westerniser like Peter.

    Meanwhile in the west, the big pendulum has similarly swung away from globalism.

    A US-Russian side summit with Biden or Blinken in Moscow would have raised expectations of a US-Russian agreement that might have had a chance of ending the war.

    Gorby's name is being trodden on in Beijing. Doesn't look as though Xi will attend. Merkel maybe?

    Here's one reason why Gorbachev was important:

    image
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    TOPPING said:

    Voxpops from Russia and from some various high-ups in various Russian administrations universally critical of Gorbachev, interestingly.
    He wasn't sufficiently despotic for them.

    And he provided both an explicit and implicit condemnation of Putin's warmongering through his comments and his example.
    It's little wonder the current fascistic state doesn't care for him. Though of course, as an ex-monarch/csar/president, they still have to acknowledge him.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    Nigelb said:

    Even as a kid I suspected they might be dangerous subversives.

    The Monkees’ last-living member sues FBI for secret files on the band
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/31/monkees-lawsuit-fbi/

    Their TV series was clearly designed to reduce the average IQ of the watcher and make moronic behaviour seem normal.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696
    Sandpit said:

    Yes, Malwarebytes is good.
    https://www.malwarebytes.com/ click the “Free Download” link on the left.

    Also, Trend Micro Housecall.
    https://www.trendmicro.com/en_ae/forHome/products/housecall.html
    +2 download Malwarebytes - let it run and then remove it...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    eek said:

    +2 download Malwarebytes - let it run and then remove it...
    Unfortunately none of these can detect whatever-it-is that's infesting my laptop
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,291
    Carnyx said:

    But with gritty bits that you have to stop and poke at with your finger rather than let it flow smoothly. Someone's been at the sabotage.

    Seriously, though, I really do wonder what the hell was happening on PoW if the grease monkeys weren't doing their jobs.
    Super lean crewing with no opportunity for handovers and lots of positions being gapped.

    This is the same ship that had a burst fire main flooding the engine room for 24 hours before anybody noticed... That caused the cancellation of the previously planned transatlantic jaunt in 2021 while it spent 8 months being repaired.
  • Couldn't get a big enough table for the funeral.
    He was going to be a pallbearer, but sadly the cathederal could not accommodate that length of coffin.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    Dunno, haven't seen one. I assume the UK split is you-know-what-from-2016 in disguise. Is there a similar age split for Sindy views?
    From memory (but I couldn't cite any references), very much so for Sindy views. But it is also reflected in SNP vs Tory voting in Scotland.

    Also from memory, Labour voting a few years back was very like the Tory lines on those graphs, but I am much less certain of this.

    I was wondering if it had changed of late. There is a strong view (discussed here a few days back) held by some, notanly within Labour, that Labour has become a primarily British-nationalist rather than social-democratic party in its approach to and within Scotland - vide 2014 alliance, and local gmt alliance with right-wing SLD and Tory parties and "Independents" aka Tories in sheepskin.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,257
    On the subject of predictions, 538 has been pretty good historically.

    If you look at the 2020 Senate elections, they only called three races wrong: Maine and North Carolina, which stayed Republican; and Georgia, which the Democrats flipped.

    If we look at their individual Senate forecasts now, and assume they call it wrong by one in the Dems favour, then you end up at 50:50.

    FWIW, I think a small bet on the Republicans on Betfair is now worth a punt: I'm thinking the Republicans grab Nevada and Georgia, but lose Pennsylvania and fall short in Arizona.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,257
    Leon said:

    Unfortunately none of these can detect whatever-it-is that's infesting my laptop
    Can I make a gentle suggestion?

    Start using Google Docs to write, instead of Word.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    Sandpit said:

    I feel sorry for Tina Fey and Lisa Ann, who were I’m sure hoping for a revival in their careers as Palin impersonators.
    Another politician who didn't bother to look at the system that was going to elect them, apparently. If she had she wouldn't have spent the campaign calling the Democrat a sweetheart and knocking 7 bells out of her Republican rival. It was the failure of a significant number of those voters to put Palin in second place that lost her it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    rcs1000 said:

    On the subject of predictions, 538 has been pretty good historically.

    If you look at the 2020 Senate elections, they only called three races wrong: Maine and North Carolina, which stayed Republican; and Georgia, which the Democrats flipped.

    If we look at their individual Senate forecasts now, and assume they call it wrong by one in the Dems favour, then you end up at 50:50.

    FWIW, I think a small bet on the Republicans on Betfair is now worth a punt: I'm thinking the Republicans grab Nevada and Georgia, but lose Pennsylvania and fall short in Arizona.

    I think it's in the lap of the gods at this point - but I've better than doubled my money, so I've cashed out.
    Letting the House bet run, for now. It would be perversely amusing (and I hope it doesn't happen) should the Democrats hold the House and lose the Senate.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,486
    For @MISTY .
    Note The Hill is hardly a liberal publication.

    Some Republicans drift from Trump as Democrats warm up to Biden
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3622977-some-republicans-drift-from-trump-as-democrats-warm-up-to-biden/

    Naturally they are still terrified of him, so the distancing is being done very gingerly.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,085
    Leon said:

    Unfortunately none of these can detect whatever-it-is that's infesting my laptop
    Maybe you should PM Heathener as perhaps she had a similar problem from using a compromised VPN until relatively recently?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    rcs1000 said:

    Can I make a gentle suggestion?

    Start using Google Docs to write, instead of Word.
    Given that the entire legal profession (including me) uses Word as standard for all intimated documents etc, whether they have a PC or a Mac, this is slightly alarming advice. Can you illucidate further or provide a link?
  • Leon said:

    Unfortunately none of these can detect whatever-it-is that's infesting my laptop
    I use Intego (on a Mac).

    They do a windows version:

    https://www.intego.com/intego-antivirus
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,257
    DavidL said:

    Given that the entire legal profession (including me) uses Word as standard for all intimated documents etc, whether they have a PC or a Mac, this is slightly alarming advice. Can you illucidate further or provide a link?
    Why is it alarming?

    Google Docs handles Word files without issue. But it is absolutely amazing for collaboration*, and there are no issues with viruses.

    * In particular, it allows your colleagues to annotate documents in real time.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,560

    Yes - we've been putting out a very popular leaflet (with a cartoon which we commissioned from Marf, who used to grace this site) - theme is "Do you want ANOTHER 7 years of the Tories? If not, join Labour and let's stop it." Quite a lot of people really don't want to still have a Conservative government in 2029, no matter how much they shift the chairs around.
    A good, positive message you have there.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Leon said:

    Unfortunately none of these can detect whatever-it-is that's infesting my laptop
    https://www.avast.com/c-macro-virus

    Good explanation. If you open a known infected document in safe mode you can then click View and macros and inspect (and delete) all of them.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,093
    rcs1000 said:

    Why is it alarming?

    Google Docs handles Word files without issue. But it is absolutely amazing for collaboration*, and there are no issues with viruses.

    * In particular, it allows your colleagues to annotate documents in real time.
    Can do that in word now with OneDrive.

    It breaks all the time but still.
  • Frank Luntz
    @FrankLuntz
    ·
    1h
    85% of Alaskans say ranked-choice voting (RCV) ballots are simple to understand and fill out. 🗳

    G. Elliott Morris
    @gelliottmorris
    · 2h
    Some people may think RCV is confusing. But Alaskans didn’t. The logical explanation for so many Republicans not ranking Palin is just that they didn’t want to vote for her!

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1565338721335279620
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    rcs1000 said:

    Why is it alarming?

    Google Docs handles Word files without issue. But it is absolutely amazing for collaboration*, and there are no issues with viruses.

    * In particular, it allows your colleagues to annotate documents in real time.
    Its alarming because it is not what any of us use*. If Word has serious security/virus issues that is a problem.

    *I do actually have 1 friend that uses google docs but he has always been more interested in computers than law.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    DavidL said:

    Its alarming because it is not what any of us use*. If Word has serious security/virus issues that is a problem.

    *I do actually have 1 friend that uses google docs but he has always been more interested in computers than law.
    Just disable macros altogether unless you use them (and I can't see that they're much use in legal pleadings or travel journalism).
  • eekeek Posts: 29,696
    DavidL said:

    Its alarming because it is not what any of us use*. If Word has serious security/virus issues that is a problem.

    *I do actually have 1 friend that uses google docs but he has always been more interested in computers than law.
    MS changed the settings for macros last month - they are no longer enabled by default see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployoffice/security/internet-macros-blocked (yes they probably should have done this 20 years ago but better late than never)
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,200
    Dura_Ace said:

    Max weight for the Mk.16 seat is 130kg and the normal max weight for FJ crew is 105kg. I wonder if he would have made it out if it had gone tits up due to a birdstrike or uncontained engine failure. Broken back for sure at his age and fitness level.
    No he'll be fine. It is all muscle and no fat hence the additional weight. Just ask Bart.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    IshmaelZ said:

    https://www.avast.com/c-macro-virus

    Good explanation. If you open a known infected document in safe mode you can then click View and macros and inspect (and delete) all of them.
    Done that. It doesn't show up

    However I might have solved the problem by cutting and pasting the entire infected document into a new document, that seems virus free. For now
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612
    Another form of Turing Test: passed


    "An AI-Generated Artwork Won First Place at a State Fair Fine Arts Competition, and Artists Are Pissed
    J
    ason Allen's AI-generated work "Théâtre D'opéra Spatial" took first place in the digital category at the Colorado State Fair."

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwork-won-first-place-at-a-state-fair-fine-arts-competition-and-artists-are-pissed
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423

    With Boris's energy speech today, and Truss's recent pronouncements, it really does feel as if we're being gaslighted into believing that it's not the Conservatives, but some other party (Labour?), that's had the power to make decisions, both short-term and long-term, over the last 12 years.

    It's stunning chutzpah, but I'm not convinced it will work out as well for the Tories as it did in 2019.

    Same trick won't work as well another time. Passage of time, repetition, less clear a switch between PMs, it makes it less effective.

    If Truss has what she claims she wanted - Boris still in power - then we wouldn't even be getting a shift in so many areas anyway. Yes, I get collective responsibility, but it still means Truss is saying 'I would do X to help the country in this difficult situation...but I would have said we shouldn't do X, because my staying in office was more important'. Or she doesn't really think X is a good idea, she just thinks it is a vote winner.
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,134

    Frank Luntz
    @FrankLuntz
    ·
    1h
    85% of Alaskans say ranked-choice voting (RCV) ballots are simple to understand and fill out. 🗳

    G. Elliott Morris
    @gelliottmorris
    · 2h
    Some people may think RCV is confusing. But Alaskans didn’t. The logical explanation for so many Republicans not ranking Palin is just that they didn’t want to vote for her!

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1565338721335279620

    Incedentally 15% was the non-transferred ballot rate. It's hard to imagine anyone motivated enough to vote for Begich that wouldn't have a preference between Palin and Peltola.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,850
    edited September 2022
    Leon said:

    Another form of Turing Test: passed


    "An AI-Generated Artwork Won First Place at a State Fair Fine Arts Competition, and Artists Are Pissed
    J
    ason Allen's AI-generated work "Théâtre D'opéra Spatial" took first place in the digital category at the Colorado State Fair."

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwork-won-first-place-at-a-state-fair-fine-arts-competition-and-artists-are-pissed

    I do wonder where this will go -If AI is capable of producing great art and literature then it surely will mass produce it (why not?) yet -isn't the main criteria of great art or writing is that it stands out or is rare ?
    You see it now in chess where AI is SO much better than the top players that nobody drools now over a great move by a grandmaster because it is just then fed into a machine and a machine comes up with a even better way of winning a game and everyone just sort of shrugs

    AI makes the extraordinary ordinary - which is fine for menial labour replacing stuff but not for art or literature or even chess
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,134
    IshmaelZ said:

    Just disable macros altogether unless you use them (and I can't see that they're much use in legal pleadings or travel journalism).
    +1 to this. The only reason a macro should be running in a word document is if you know exactly what it's there for. I use macros all the time in Excel (though I am slowly moving away from VBA) and even there I turn off macros by default.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423
    Pulpstar said:

    It's most infuriating to read this story without the blimming actual tweet being discussed.
    It's like when someone has done something allegedly offensive and the story skirts around what the heck they actually said (they have gotten a bit better with that). Even when there's a good reason for circumspection it makes for an irritating read.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423
    Leon said:

    Another form of Turing Test: passed


    "An AI-Generated Artwork Won First Place at a State Fair Fine Arts Competition, and Artists Are Pissed
    J
    ason Allen's AI-generated work "Théâtre D'opéra Spatial" took first place in the digital category at the Colorado State Fair."

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwork-won-first-place-at-a-state-fair-fine-arts-competition-and-artists-are-pissed

    Seems like old news - programmes have been creating music soundalikes of classical masters for years I believe, which are indistinguishable from the real thing.

    We know there will be a market for the equivalent of 'hand made' artwork produced by real human beings, like art produced be a chimpanzee not being 'real' art because of lack of intended meaning or whatever, the uninformed observer won't be able to tell the difference.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    edited September 2022
    IshmaelZ said:

    Just disable macros altogether unless you use them (and I can't see that they're much use in legal pleadings or travel journalism).
    I don't use macros as pretty much everything I do is bespoke (or cut and paste) but in my experience solicitors are very fond of them. They will have longwinded without prejudice clauses on many of their letters, for example.

    Edit and I download word documents from solicitors at the rate of at least 20 a day, often many more.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423

    Frank Luntz
    @FrankLuntz
    ·
    1h
    85% of Alaskans say ranked-choice voting (RCV) ballots are simple to understand and fill out. 🗳

    G. Elliott Morris
    @gelliottmorris
    · 2h
    Some people may think RCV is confusing. But Alaskans didn’t. The logical explanation for so many Republicans not ranking Palin is just that they didn’t want to vote for her!

    https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1565338721335279620

    It's a weird thing about human nature that we often use bad arguments even when better ones exist (even if oen is not persuaded by it even then). The argument people cannot figure out a relatively straightforward system like that is really just defenders of the current system insulting people.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,612

    I do wonder where this will go -If AI is capable of producing great art and literature then it surely will mass produce it (why not?) yet -isn't the main criteria of great art or writing is that it stands out or is rare ?
    You see it now in chess where AI is SO much better than the top players that nobody drools now over a great move by a grandmaster because it is just then fed into a machine and a machine comes up with a even better way of winning a game and everyone just sort of shrugs

    AI makes the extraordinary ordinary - which is fine for menial labour replacing stuff but not for art or literature or even chess
    Well, yes

    90% of future art and literature will be produced by machines, or machines in collaboration with humans

    There will always be a market for the rare artisanal human product, but it will be a market dimensions smaller than it is now

    Pretty grim for young artists/writers starting out now. Maybe quite grim for the human condition. But I don't know how it can be stopped. The genie is out of the lamp
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