SFAICS Penny is favourite for only one reason, and that a remarkable one: she isn't one of the others.
That's worked for other candidates in the past (e.g., Jim Hacker).
I think Mordaunt has more going for her. She's a new face, but with some experience. She's not tied to Boris. She's not on the crazy right of the party, but isn't too far over to the left. Tory members like her back story. She can get the support of both an Andrea Leadsom and a Caroline Nokes. I can see why she's popular.
Not old, not new, not Boris, not a rebel, not right, not left, NOTA.
Now that Penny Mordaunt is the front-runner, there will be a lot of MPs replaying her launch video and googling reviews of her book in order to try and work out just what is Pennyism and whether they actually support it. And they've only got till tomorrow when the next vote is due.
She believes in homeopathy.
A fruitloop. Pretty. Looks good in a swimsuit. But a fruitloop. And a lying one at that.
But she may well win.
And this is the party that thinks it is moving on from Boris.......
I'm aware that Mordaunt signed an EDM in favour of homeopathy, but I've not been able to find anything else showing her support.
Also...
The same day that she signed said EDM, was the first time she had tabled one herself (celebrating the 60th anniversary of Portsmouth twinning with Duisburg). Half the people that signed her EDM had signed the homeopathy one. May have been a bit of quid pro quo, and not necessarily confirm her belief in the magic healing power of sugar.
An updated statement would be interesting. She'll need to, as at some point that will become mud to sling.
An interesting list of 'supporters'. Includes Margaret Hodge, Luciana Burger, Glyn Davis, Robert Halfon and Keith Vaz. Plus a collection of Socialist Campaign Group types, but no Jeremy Corbyn.
Tonight at 1922 hustings I asked every candidate the same question- will they commit to maintaining our legislative commitment to net zero by 2050. Organising CEN MP caucus hustings for Mon morning as well- keen to keep environment and climate change on the agenda in the contest
On the target: Yes to Net Zero 2050: Rishi, Penny, Liz Move Net Zero target back: Suella, Tom T Change concept of target to be more accountable/delivery plan: Kemi Penny and Liz would also suspend green levies
One thing that always strikes me/annoys me is that we have potential PMs on this list who we think we know - Sunak and Truss - and don’t know, Kemi, Penny (use of first names as couldn’t be bothered to type them realised this explanation took longer to type).
All of them however have been subservient. They have either been subservient to things like cabinet responsibility, youth, not wanting to scare the horses on their way up, their local electorate.
We can try and judge them by what they have said or done in the past but actually nobody knows what they will do when unshackled and they have control.
It’s easy to criticise these people for what they have said, how they have voted, policies but they have never had the freedom to say “bollocks to that, I want it done this way”.
So Penny might fuck up the trans thing whilst an MP because she’s treading a fine line with where her superiors say she needs to walk, Sunak makes policies on spending but his boss wants different things so he can’t do what he really would if in charge, Keli hasn’t had the ability to break free and Truss has to go with what her programmers input.
Whoever wins it will be very interesting to see if they really can break free and do something different or if there is some weird inertia that never allows politicians to be radical.
Tonight at 1922 hustings I asked every candidate the same question- will they commit to maintaining our legislative commitment to net zero by 2050. Organising CEN MP caucus hustings for Mon morning as well- keen to keep environment and climate change on the agenda in the contest
On the target: Yes to Net Zero 2050: Rishi, Penny, Liz Move Net Zero target back: Suella, Tom T Change concept of target to be more accountable/delivery plan: Kemi Penny and Liz would also suspend green levies
Go Penny!
If you're going to quote from a tweet or similar please at least include an attribution, or better still a link, so that we know it's not just you saying this.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
One of the weather models has a forecast for 31C in south central England…. At 7am on Monday morning
WTF
I enjoy weather geekery and record-chasing but those night time/morning temperatures would certainly kill people. Let’s hope they are wrong
Yes.
From my POV the biggest problem with this heatwave is it’s sheer longevity. I was up north at the weekend, walking, and it was perfect on the hills, 23c and clear. I got back down here and it has been 30c+ frequently and has only briefly dropped below 20c in the middle of the bloody nights. I have been trying to work and sleep in high temperatures with no relief, even in the evenings. And it’s going to get hotter.
Grim.
Haven't you previously said that the reason people move to London is because the weather is better down south?
Tonight at 1922 hustings I asked every candidate the same question- will they commit to maintaining our legislative commitment to net zero by 2050. Organising CEN MP caucus hustings for Mon morning as well- keen to keep environment and climate change on the agenda in the contest
On the target: Yes to Net Zero 2050: Rishi, Penny, Liz Move Net Zero target back: Suella, Tom T Change concept of target to be more accountable/delivery plan: Kemi Penny and Liz would also suspend green levies
SFAICS Penny is favourite for only one reason, and that a remarkable one: she isn't one of the others.
That's worked for other candidates in the past (e.g., Jim Hacker).
I think Mordaunt has more going for her. She's a new face, but with some experience. She's not tied to Boris. She's not on the crazy right of the party, but isn't too far over to the left. Tory members like her back story. She can get the support of both an Andrea Leadsom and a Caroline Nokes. I can see why she's popular.
Not old, not new, not Boris, not a rebel, not right, not left, NOTA.
Now that Penny Mordaunt is the front-runner, there will be a lot of MPs replaying her launch video and googling reviews of her book in order to try and work out just what is Pennyism and whether they actually support it. And they've only got till tomorrow when the next vote is due.
She believes in homeopathy.
A fruitloop. Pretty. Looks good in a swimsuit. But a fruitloop. And a lying one at that.
But she may well win.
And this is the party that thinks it is moving on from Boris.......
I'm aware that Mordaunt signed an EDM in favour of homeopathy, but I've not been able to find anything else showing her support.
Also...
The same day that she signed said EDM, was the first time she had tabled one herself (celebrating the 60th anniversary of Portsmouth twinning with Duisburg). Half the people that signed
her EDM had signed the homeopathy one. May have been a bit of quid pro quo, and not
necessarily confirm her belief in the magic healing power of sugar.
All fair points well made but as this is pedantic betting: Isn’t homeopathy water rather than sugar?
Suppose Mordaunt wins. She offers Sunak a Cabinet job, but it's a demotion. Does he take it? I would have almost certainly said no, but given what ultimately happened to Hunt I think he might well do now. The King over the Water strategy doesn't seem to work.
He's had a meteoric rise in politics, a Chancellor before he was 40, and is richer than God - if he doesn't think he will remain at the top table will he stick around beyond the next election?
I cannot see another winner offering him the same job, they'll want an ally there, but if he's sensible he'd take a meaty mid level Cabinet position.
If they offer you DCMS you know they want to humiliate you. If they offer you Northern Ireland, you know they hate you.
I would create a role for him - almost like an ambassador job - to liaise with tech companies etc globally to find ways to bring elements of the companies to the UK and work with the gov to find the best incentives to attract them whilst maximalising what the country gets out of them being here.
Best utilises his treasury experience. His investment experience, his global contacts and global outlook.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Suppose Mordaunt wins. She offers Sunak a Cabinet job, but it's a demotion. Does he take it? I would have almost certainly said no, but given what ultimately happened to Hunt I think he might well do now. The King over the Water strategy doesn't seem to work.
He's had a meteoric rise in politics, a Chancellor before he was 40, and is richer than God - if he doesn't think he will remain at the top table will he stick around beyond the next election?
I cannot see another winner offering him the same job, they'll want an ally there, but if he's sensible he'd take a meaty mid level Cabinet position.
If they offer you DCMS you know they want to humiliate you. If they offer you Northern Ireland, you know they hate you.
Can Rishi be demoted? It depends how the rest of the election plays out but it would be tempting fate to embarrass a rival backed by half the parliamentary party.
In any case, Rishi can afford to stick around even if technically demoted. The new PM's ministry might well flop, leading to yet another leader even before the next general election. Boris is also said to have this in mind.
One thing that always strikes me/annoys me is that we have potential PMs on this list who we think we know - Sunak and Truss - and don’t know, Kemi, Penny (use of first names as couldn’t be bothered to type them realised this explanation took longer to type).
All of them however have been subservient. They have either been subservient to things like cabinet responsibility, youth, not wanting to scare the horses on their way up, their local electorate.
We can try and judge them by what they have said or done in the past but actually nobody knows what they will do when unshackled and they have control.
It’s easy to criticise these people for what they have said, how they have voted, policies but they have never had the freedom to say “bollocks to that, I want it done this way”.
So Penny might fuck up the trans thing whilst an MP because she’s treading a fine line with where her superiors say she needs to walk, Sunak makes policies on spending but his boss wants different things so he can’t do what he really would if in charge, Keli hasn’t had the ability to break free and Truss has to go with what her programmers input.
Whoever wins it will be very interesting to see if they really can break free and do something different or if there is some weird inertia that never allows politicians to be radical.
I agree on this completely. It is frustrating in a way, and we can only judge them by what we have seen as we have nothing else, but people can surprise. They might go in unexpected directions, flourish without experience or flounder even with it. They might be a great Cabinet Minister but terrible PM, or vice-versa.
SFAICS Penny is favourite for only one reason, and that a remarkable one: she isn't one of the others.
That's worked for other candidates in the past (e.g., Jim Hacker).
I think Mordaunt has more going for her. She's a new face, but with some experience. She's not tied to Boris. She's not on the crazy right of the party, but isn't too far over to the left. Tory members like her back story. She can get the support of both an Andrea Leadsom and a Caroline Nokes. I can see why she's popular.
Not old, not new, not Boris, not a rebel, not right, not left, NOTA.
Now that Penny Mordaunt is the front-runner, there will be a lot of MPs replaying her launch video and googling reviews of her book in order to try and work out just what is Pennyism and whether they actually support it. And they've only got till tomorrow when the next vote is due.
She believes in homeopathy.
A fruitloop. Pretty. Looks good in a swimsuit. But a fruitloop. And a lying one at that.
But she may well win.
And this is the party that thinks it is moving on from Boris.......
I'm aware that Mordaunt signed an EDM in favour of homeopathy, but I've not been able to find anything else showing her support.
Also...
The same day that she signed said EDM, was the first time she had tabled one herself (celebrating the 60th anniversary of Portsmouth twinning with Duisburg). Half the people that signed
her EDM had signed the homeopathy one. May have been a bit of quid pro quo, and not
necessarily confirm her belief in the magic healing power of sugar.
All fair points well made but as this is pedantic betting: Isn’t homeopathy water rather than sugar?
They might claim to make it with the purest water in the world, with memory of the poison that they’ve diluted out of the water imprinted on it through “sucussion”..
But there’s no water in a pot of homeopathy pills. The only two ingredients are sugar and a stabiliser. I imagine the water memory must be so powerful that it survives all of the water being boiled away.
Or they put exactly the same sugar pills in every pot and the magic ingredient is the label.
Suppose Mordaunt wins. She offers Sunak a Cabinet job, but it's a demotion. Does he take it? I would have almost certainly said no, but given what ultimately happened to Hunt I think he might well do now. The King over the Water strategy doesn't seem to work.
He's had a meteoric rise in politics, a Chancellor before he was 40, and is richer than God - if he doesn't think he will remain at the top table will he stick around beyond the next election?
I cannot see another winner offering him the same job, they'll want an ally there, but if he's sensible he'd take a meaty mid level Cabinet position.
If they offer you DCMS you know they want to humiliate you. If they offer you Northern Ireland, you know they hate you.
I would create a role for him - almost like an ambassador job - to liaise with tech companies etc globally to find ways to bring elements of the companies to the UK and work with the gov to find the best incentives to attract them whilst maximalising what the country gets out of them being here.
Best utilises his treasury experience. His investment experience, his global contacts and global outlook.
Make him go begging to Nick Clegg? You are a cruel man.
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm is midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
Yes, the last time we had weather this hot - in 2019 - the East Coast main Line couldn't cope with the heat. I think some of the overhead lines in the Peterborough area melted and landed on top of a train, causing hours of delays and many cancellations. As I recall I was due out of Kings Cross on the 4pm train, but left early and was only a couple of hours delayed on a train leaving late in the morning. The 4pm train limped into Edinburgh Waverley at about two in the morning, six hours late.
So, you might be okay with the 12 noon train, but I'd rebook to an earlier one if you can.
I doubt the overhead power lines 'melted' in the heat. I don't know the incident in question, but it is more likely that the temperature went above the temp that the temp compensation is designed to cope with. Or the temp compensation failed. This caused the power lines to expand and sag until they either shorted out on other infrastructure, or more likely got tangled up in a train's pantograph and the heat from the short melted the parts of the train it touched.
Why aren't they having hustings on the cost of living and the economy generally? Instead of woke and climate change?
Because the Conservatives aren't a serious party in touch with the concerns of ordinary people. Johnson has put almost zero energy into cost of living. Sunak came up with a budget that made the problem even worse, which had to be partly mitigated. None of the candidates has policies that even begin to address the problem, nor have any interest in how people manage with rapidly rising costs.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
I hate fucking Windows. I've now been waiting 20 minutes while it says the latest update, which I didn't authorise, is '100% complete.'
It's not even written in decent English.
Make a calendar reminder: the second Tuesday in each month is Patch Tuesday when Microsoft and some other vendors release updates, often big ones that take a fair while to download and install, and then need a reboot. Owing to the time difference, it can be Wednesday before we get them, so make a second calendar reminder for the day after the second Tuesday. Then at least you will be prepared for this sort of thing and can take precautions.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
Or indeed private companies advertising in general.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
The process is very clever. Firstly, it posits something that everyone will superficially agree with - ie men should stop 'sexist hate'. Thats why lots of people on here are nodding along - they can't see the problem.
If it is asking men to stop domestic abuse, or child prostitution, then that is fine. No one would object to that.
But 'sexist hate' is expansive in its meaning. It can encompass almost any form of percieved mistreatment. And the trick is, as the problem stops with men, they have no remit in even defining what it is.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker, the most recent is from 2019.
I don't know why you are complaining about the rules though, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'. And it absolutely says ties are not compulsory.
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
Either there was another reason for the suspension, or whoever made the ruling was being an arse.
I'm all for raging against out of date customs (though my personal preference is to retain the ones that are not actually harmful or in practice in efficient, for character's sake), but in this one the customs have been brought up to date.
Except for Lady Lords able to wear hats without permission (implying men must have permission).
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
My attitude towards companies peddling adverts of this nature, proclaiming their commitment to Pride, their concern for the environment, their support for equality and diversity is:
"the louder he spoke of his honour, the faster we counted our spoons."
You just know they'll be employing children in the Third World for a pittance, routing their profits through tax havens, and half their executives will have their hands up womens' skirts.
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm is midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
They are NOT ambiguous - 12pm has ALWAYS meant midday, and 12am has always meant midnight.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
Sadiq Khan has been rather keen on this....everything from junk food to beach bodies have been subject to bans or desire to ban on TFL.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
BIG BROTHER IS JUDGING YOU
Everywhere. I loathe it
If I move out of the UK, and that looks increasingly possible, Woke will be a major reason
What woke things actually have any impact on your life in any material way? I loath this sort of stuff, but rarely come across it. The occasions I come across it I think 'pillocks' and move on.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
One of the weather models has a forecast for 31C in south central England…. At 7am on Monday morning
WTF
I enjoy weather geekery and record-chasing but those night time/morning temperatures would certainly kill people. Let’s hope they are wrong
Yes.
From my POV the biggest problem with this heatwave is it’s sheer longevity. I was up north at the weekend, walking, and it was perfect on the hills, 23c and clear. I got back down here and it has been 30c+ frequently and has only briefly dropped below 20c in the middle of the bloody nights. I have been trying to work and sleep in high temperatures with no relief, even in the evenings. And it’s going to get hotter.
Grim.
Grim darn sarf. Perfect up north. Like it
Absolutely the case this week. From heaven to hell!
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
Sadiq Khan has been rather keen on this....
I can't recall what Khan said but if he's said what you're implying he's wrong.
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm is midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
ISO standard format date time only has 00:00, not 24:00, and 00:00 is the earliest time possible in the day. If you give the full ISO standard date time then there's no ambiguity, he said at 2022-07-13T20:42:26
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker. I don't know why you are complaining about the rules, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
MP's should be required to wear Morning Dress. Anything else is unseemly.
Suppose Mordaunt wins. She offers Sunak a Cabinet job, but it's a demotion. Does he take it? I would have almost certainly said no, but given what ultimately happened to Hunt I think he might well do now. The King over the Water strategy doesn't seem to work.
He's had a meteoric rise in politics, a Chancellor before he was 40, and is richer than God - if he doesn't think he will remain at the top table will he stick around beyond the next election?
I cannot see another winner offering him the same job, they'll want an ally there, but if he's sensible he'd take a meaty mid level Cabinet position.
If they offer you DCMS you know they want to humiliate you. If they offer you Northern Ireland, you know they hate you.
Can Rishi be demoted? It depends how the rest of the election plays out but it would be tempting fate to embarrass a rival backed by half the parliamentary party.
In any case, Rishi can afford to stick around even if technically demoted. The new PM's ministry might well flop, leading to yet another leader even before the next general election. Boris is also said to have this in mind.
Any new PM would stick him back in as Chancellor if they had any sense. He's the only one in the Tory Party who is within the realms of economic plausibility right now.
You can change the update settings on Windows with some hacking.
Is this one of the 'hacking' definitions that involves going into the menus and using a supported and documented mechanism to do it? I.e. Not-A-Hack (tm) ?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
How do they know what he doesn't like? Telepathy? Maybe they need to go back to the old days of enamelled metal signs for Camp coffee essence and Bovril.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker, the most recent is from 2019.
I don't know why you are complaining about the rules though, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'. And it absolutely says ties are not compulsory.
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
Either there was another reason for the suspension, or whoever made the ruling was being an arse.
So why has someone been ejected for not wearing one then? And why shouldn't they be able to wear what they want? They are the elected representatives. Not employees. If they want to wear a thong and flip flops that's up to the voters, surely?
You can change the update settings on Windows with some hacking.
Is this one of the 'hacking' definitions that involves going into the menus and using a supported and documented mechanism to do it? I.e. Not-A-Hack (tm) ?
When I did I had to make changes in the registry but it might well be different now.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
Well who do you think are being sexist to women. Other women?
I genuinely don't know who has so much time at Waterloo to be looking at this stuff and caring about it.
I'm either fed up that my train is late again, sitting in Pret eating or on a train waiting for it to leave.
This is the response of someone who doesn't want the issue to be debated.
I remember hearing the same on a referendum on the EU in the early 2010s from those who, err, loved federalism.
Well no it's just true.
Can anyone hear honestly say at Waterloo they care what the advertising boards above say? You're waiting for a train to leave or in my case, probably running for a train because you left too late. My time keeping is dreadful.
Your condescending nature as usual notwithstanding.
Condescending = disagreeing with you.
This winds up lots of people.
They say so in private when they know I'm on their side. They dare not in public.
No it's not disagreeing, it's how you structure your posts. I told you this yesterday.
You talk to me like I'm stupid, like I am dirt on your shoe. You told me to go away and read something and them come back and tell you what it said. I am not five years old.
Treat me with respect like I do you. Or we're done. Last chance.
Yes Casino’s weak spot is his occasional tendency to slide into school-maamish tickings off. Which is a shame, because he often has interesting stuff to say.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
Sadiq Khan has been rather keen on this....everything from junk food to beach bodies have been subject to bans or desire to ban on TFL.
Ever been on a train when someone eats eight beefburgers one after another in the seat next to you? Or fish and chips reeking of vinegar?
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm is midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
12 noon is neither ante meridian nor post meridian. It is ... meridian.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker. I don't know why you are complaining about the rules, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
MP's should be required to wear Morning Dress. Anything else is unseemly.
Be fair, white tie should be ok after 6pm to allow them to be dressed for dinner.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
Very happy to have Penny, she seems competent, sensible and normal. That is good for the country.
I do not think she will end up being a Labour destroying machine but we will see, I am often wrong as you all know.
She is a liar who has come up with one of the most insanely stupid policies so far proposed.
And this in an election brought about because of the lack of integrity of the current holder.
How very depressing. Integrity and telling the truth and avoiding corruption mean nothing to the Tory party. Superficial appearance and PR spin are all. The Tories may as well keep Boris and put him in a dress. He has the blond hair already.
Off to bed. I've branded my right arm quite badly. And typing with my left hand is tiring.
So laying back my 66s Mordaunt @ 1.8 wasn't the worst feeling in the world.
And with my LAB hat on - C'mon Lizzie. You can still do it. Go go go you fabulous adult human female you. Come on you dropdead slamdunk political titan.
Up the Trussers!
The excitement has proved too much for one old geezer PBer 😔
PS Truss is a hideous joke, look
Sure is. Hence the dream result for my party. Labour. Which is what matters when I'm wearing that hat. Which I am atm. It feels more comfortable than the betting and national interest hats in this heat.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker, the most recent is from 2019.
I don't know why you are complaining about the rules though, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'. And it absolutely says ties are not compulsory.
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
Either there was another reason for the suspension, or whoever made the ruling was being an arse.
So why has someone been ejected for not wearing one then? And why shouldn't they be able to wear what they want? They are the elected representatives. Not employees.
To the first question, I have no idea - as I said, either something else is going on or the Chair was being an arse and has applied the rules incorrectly.
I mean, are you disputing that it is not in the rules that you have to wear a jacket and tie at all times? I linked to the rulebook and it is crystal clear about that
As for being able to wear whatever they want, that's obviously something MPs could agree to if they want.
But your point about representatives not employees is just dumb. Deliberative assemblies adopt rules, about interests, speaking, procedures, and yes, attire. The members have complete control and can review those procedures at any time, and do (for instance, they maintain people should not generally read a speech verbatim - though they do not enforce that rigorously - but its ok for people to use phones and tablets as an aide memoire). It's not unfair for an assembly to have procedural rules which representatives adhere to - they just need to keep it updated, and do. I think it has a good balance - you must be in business like attire, but it is flexible and should not be enforced in all circumstances (Jared O'Mara did not have to wear a shirt for instance, due to disability).
It's right there in black and white that you do not have to wear a tie - so if you want to have a rant about how wrong it is for rules to require a tie, I think you are looking in the wrong place. Someone applying the rules incorrectly doesn't magically make the rule the opposite of what it says.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
Sadiq Khan has been rather keen on this....everything from junk food to beach bodies have been subject to bans or desire to ban on TFL.
Ever been on a train when someone eats eight beefburgers one after another in the seat next to you? Or fish and chips reeking of vinegar?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
As someone who suffered years of pain that the NHS caused and utterly failed to sort out, I am going to say something controversial:
I think homeopathy is mostly rubbish, but there is a place for it. Much healing is mental, and if someone thinks it works, then it may help their mood if nothing else.
But it should be complementary, not the only 'cure' (see Steve Jobs), and it probably should not be available on the NHS, unless there is nothing else the NHS can do.
When you are in pain, and the doctors can do nothing to help you, you will try anything. (note: I did not try homeopathy, but I wish I had if it had made me *feel* better).
Homeopathy is a very specific subset of alternative medicine. I don't know a huge amount about it, but I believe it entails taking small amount of the 'active' ingredient (I think a poison or a disease) and diluting it to a vast extent before administering it. Protesters against homeopathy have committed mass homeopathic suicide (taking an excess of the recommended dose) and nothing has happened. Therefore it appears to me thaf homeopathy is indeed mostly quackery, though you're correct to say that it can still be beneficial if you believe it.
By contrast, naturopathy is simply the belief that the chemicals you ingest each day (what we call food and drink) as well as other environmental factors, are going to have a huge impact on health. Which of course is entirely correct. I never know when someone is being accused of 'believing in homeopathy', whether they are being accused of the former, or the latter.
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm is midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
They are NOT ambiguous - 12pm has ALWAYS meant midday, and 12am has always meant midnight.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker. I don't know why you are complaining about the rules, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
MP's should be required to wear Morning Dress. Anything else is unseemly.
But what about late night votes? Is there a place they can all switch to white tie?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
I think he's saying the Government should regulate what private enterprises do so he doesn't have to look at ads he doesn't like in Waterloo Station. Very authoritarian
Sadiq Khan has been rather keen on this....everything from junk food to beach bodies have been subject to bans or desire to ban on TFL.
Ever been on a train when someone eats eight beefburgers one after another in the seat next to you? Or fish and chips reeking of vinegar?
Eight is a very specific number!
He'd bought a family freezer pack, nuked it in the microwave, set off for the station, and then sat down in the train ...
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm is midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
They are NOT ambiguous - 12pm has ALWAYS meant midday, and 12am has always meant midnight.
Are you going to Wick Thurso and Kyle? If so enjoy it! 👍
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
One of the weather models has a forecast for 31C in south central England…. At 7am on Monday morning
WTF
I enjoy weather geekery and record-chasing but those night time/morning temperatures would certainly kill people. Let’s hope they are wrong
Yes.
From my POV the biggest problem with this heatwave is it’s sheer longevity. I was up north at the weekend, walking, and it was perfect on the hills, 23c and clear. I got back down here and it has been 30c+ frequently and
has only briefly dropped below 20c in the middle of the bloody nights. I have been trying to work and sleep in high temperatures with no relief, even in the evenings. And it’s going to get hotter.
Grim.
Haven't you previously said
that the reason people move to London is because the weather is better down south?
I have said that the climate is better here, which it undoubtedly is. The weather this week is better up north, as it occasionally is.
(As it happens, the horrific prospect of 40c could actually be reached up north - some models show Doncaster as the hot spot!)
What an inspirational and dedicated man Mo Farah is.
He is the absolute best of our country, God bless him.
Oddly my brother in law, who works for sport England, had a rather low opinion of his honesty. Something to do with a borrowed laptop that was never returned. He is, however, a classic example of an immigrant becoming a success, and if he trafficking story is true, an even greater achievement.
Suppose Mordaunt wins. She offers Sunak a Cabinet job, but it's a demotion. Does he take it? I would have almost certainly said no, but given what ultimately happened to Hunt I think he might well do now. The King over the Water strategy doesn't seem to work.
He's had a meteoric rise in politics, a Chancellor before he was 40, and is richer than God - if he doesn't think he will remain at the top table will he stick around beyond the next election?
I cannot see another winner offering him the same job, they'll want an ally there, but if he's sensible he'd take a meaty mid level Cabinet position.
If they offer you DCMS you know they want to humiliate you. If they offer you Northern Ireland, you know they hate you.
Mulling on this the other day. What would we think of Rishi as Foreign Secretary?
Give Liz Truss Home Secretary....
That would allow a rising start a stint as Chancellor to really impress.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
Governments do this all the time.
She's going to tell Unilever to not be woke, okay then
Very happy to have Penny, she seems competent, sensible and normal. That is good for the country.
I do not think she will end up being a Labour destroying machine but we will see, I am often wrong as you all know.
She is a liar who has come up with one of the most insanely stupid policies so far proposed.
And this in an election brought about because of the lack of integrity of the current holder.
How very depressing. Integrity and telling the truth and avoiding corruption mean nothing to the Tory party. Superficial appearance and PR spin are all. The Tories may as well keep Boris and put him in a dress. He has the blond hair already.
Off to bed. I've branded my right arm quite badly. And typing with my left hand is tiring.
Night all.
Good luck with the arm. Do not be afraid to seek medical aid if necessary.
Living in west Scotland all this talk of UK extreme heat feels like an oddly long way away - it's not even been a particularly nice or warm summer even by Scottish summer standards.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker, the most recent is from 2019.
I don't know why you are complaining about the rules though, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'. And it absolutely says ties are not compulsory.
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
Either there was another reason for the suspension, or whoever made the ruling was being an arse.
So why has someone been ejected for not wearing one then? And why shouldn't they be able to wear what they want? They are the elected representatives. Not employees.
To the first question, I have no idea - as I said, either something else is going on or the Chair was being an arse and has applied the rules incorrectly.
I mean, are you disputing that it is not in the rules that you have to wear a jacket and tie at all times? I linked to the rulebook and it is crystal clear about that
As for being able to wear whatever they want, that's obviously something MPs could agree to if they want.
But your point about representatives not employees is just dumb. Deliberative assemblies adopt rules, about interests, speaking, procedures, and yes, attire. The members have complete control and can review those procedures at any time, and do (for instance, they maintain people should not generally read a speech verbatim - though they do not enforce that rigorously - but its ok for people to use phones and tablets as an aide memoire). It's not unfair for an assembly to have procedural rules which representatives adhere to - they just need to keep it updated, and do. I think it has a good balance - you must be in business like attire, but it is flexible and should not be enforced in all circumstances (Jared O'Mara did not have to wear a shirt for instance, due to disability).
It's right there in black and white that you do not have to wear a tie - so if you want to have a rant about how wrong it is for rules to require a tie, I think you are looking in the wrong place. Someone applying the rules incorrectly doesn't magically make the rule the opposite of what it says.
I'm not having a rant at all my friend. Just curious as to why they need rules on attire at all (beyond decency and legality)? People bang on about freedom of speech and expression, yet our elected representatives can't wear t-shirt and jeans, simply because a majority of their peers say so. Why? But it really isn't important at all in the scheme of things.
As someone who suffered years of pain that the NHS caused and utterly failed to sort out, I am going to say something controversial:
I think homeopathy is mostly rubbish, but there is a place for it. Much healing is mental, and if someone thinks it works, then it may help their mood if nothing else.
But it should be complementary, not the only 'cure' (see Steve Jobs), and it probably should not be available on the NHS, unless there is nothing else the NHS can do.
When you are in pain, and the doctors can do nothing to help you, you will try anything. (note: I did not try homeopathy, but I wish I had if it had made me *feel* better).
Homeopathy is a very specific subset of alternative medicine. I don't know a huge amount about it, but I believe it entails taking small amount of the 'active' ingredient (I think a poison or a disease) and diluting it to a vast extent before administering it. Protesters against homeopathy have committed mass homeopathic suicide (taking an excess of the recommended dose) and nothing has happened. Therefore it appears to me thaf homeopathy is indeed mostly quackery, though you're correct to say that it can still be beneficial if you believe it.
By contrast, naturopathy is simply the belief that the chemicals you ingest each day (what we call food and drink) as well as other environmental factors, are going to have a huge impact on health. Which of course is entirely correct. I never know when someone is being accused of 'believing in homeopathy', whether they are being accused of the former, or the latter.
Homeopathy is utter bollocks. Homeopathic practitioners who spend an hour listening to a patient, rather than the hassled three minutes the go can spare, are well worth it if it works. I doubt there is anything more than the placebo effect in it though.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
Given that said companies want to lecture me about how I conduct my affairs, I think you, I, and she have exactly that right.
As someone who suffered years of pain that the NHS caused and utterly failed to sort out, I am going to say something controversial:
I think homeopathy is mostly rubbish, but there is a place for it. Much healing is mental, and if someone thinks it works, then it may help their mood if nothing else.
But it should be complementary, not the only 'cure' (see Steve Jobs), and it probably should not be available on the NHS, unless there is nothing else the NHS can do.
When you are in pain, and the doctors can do nothing to help you, you will try anything. (note: I did not try homeopathy, but I wish I had if it had made me *feel* better).
Homeopathy is a very specific subset of alternative medicine. I don't know a huge amount about it, but I believe it entails taking small amount of the 'active' ingredient (I think a poison or a disease) and diluting it to a vast extent before administering it. Protesters against homeopathy have committed mass homeopathic suicide (taking an excess of the recommended dose) and nothing has happened. Therefore it appears to me thaf homeopathy is indeed mostly quackery, though you're correct to say that it can still be beneficial if you believe it.
By contrast, naturopathy is simply the belief that the chemicals you ingest each day (what we call food and drink) as well as other environmental factors, are going to have a huge impact on health. Which of course is entirely correct. I never know when someone is being accused of 'believing in homeopathy', whether they are being accused of the former, or the latter.
Homeopathy is utter bollocks. Homeopathic practitioners who spend an hour listening to a patient, rather than the hassled three minutes the go can spare, are well worth it if it works. I doubt there is anything more than the placebo effect in it though.
Also, above all in Victdorian times when homoeopathy was dreamt up, not being poisoned etc by the mainstream drugs. All those blue pills full of mercury salts.
Like part of the Victorian water cure at places such as Malvern was placebo and part of it was diet, exercise and not drinking (so much) adulterated crap from the alcohol industry.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
A business has the right to determine what it's priorities are, does it not?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
Given that said companies want to lecture me about how I conduct my affairs, I think you, I, and she have exactly that right.
As someone who suffered years of pain that the NHS caused and utterly failed to sort out, I am going to say something controversial:
I think homeopathy is mostly rubbish, but there is a place for it. Much healing is mental, and if someone thinks it works, then it may help their mood if nothing else.
But it should be complementary, not the only 'cure' (see Steve Jobs), and it probably should not be available on the NHS, unless there is nothing else the NHS can do.
When you are in pain, and the doctors can do nothing to help you, you will try anything. (note: I did not try homeopathy, but I wish I had if it had made me *feel* better).
Homeopathy is a very specific subset of alternative medicine. I don't know a huge amount about it, but I believe it entails taking small amount of the 'active' ingredient (I think a poison or a disease) and diluting it to a vast extent before administering it. Protesters against homeopathy have committed mass homeopathic suicide (taking an excess of the recommended dose) and nothing has happened. Therefore it appears to me thaf homeopathy is indeed mostly quackery, though you're correct to say that it can still be beneficial if you believe it.
By contrast, naturopathy is simply the belief that the chemicals you ingest each day (what we call food and drink) as well as other environmental factors, are going to have a huge impact on health. Which of course is entirely correct. I never know when someone is being accused of 'believing in homeopathy', whether they are being accused of the former, or the latter.
October 23rd is the day for homeopathy "suicides" (10²³ being the multiplier in Avagadro's constant - which indicates there will be zero molecules of the poison left post-dilution). I know this having joined in on one.
Hahnemann, homeopathy's founder, insisted that sucussion had to be properly done. This meant shaking the solution vigorously then banging the bottle containing it on a leather bound book about homeopathy.
As someone who suffered years of pain that the NHS caused and utterly failed to sort out, I am going to say something controversial:
I think homeopathy is mostly rubbish, but there is a place for it. Much healing is mental, and if someone thinks it works, then it may help their mood if nothing else.
But it should be complementary, not the only 'cure' (see Steve Jobs), and it probably should not be available on the NHS, unless there is nothing else the NHS can do.
When you are in pain, and the doctors can do nothing to help you, you will try anything. (note: I did not try homeopathy, but I wish I had if it had made me *feel* better).
Homeopathy is a very specific subset of alternative medicine. I don't know a huge amount about it, but I believe it entails taking small amount of the 'active' ingredient (I think a poison or a disease) and diluting it to a vast extent before administering it. Protesters against homeopathy have committed mass homeopathic suicide (taking an excess of the recommended dose) and nothing has happened. Therefore it appears to me thaf homeopathy is indeed mostly quackery, though you're correct to say that it can still be beneficial if you believe it.
By contrast, naturopathy is simply the belief that the chemicals you ingest each day (what we call food and drink) as well as other environmental factors, are going to have a huge impact on health. Which of course is entirely correct. I never know when someone is being accused of 'believing in homeopathy', whether they are being accused of the former, or the latter.
October 23rd is the day for homeopathy "suicides" (10²³ being the multiplier in Avagadro's constant - which indicates there will be zero molecules of the poison left post-dilution). I know this having joined in on one.
Hahnemann, homeopathy's founder, insisted that sucussion had to be properly done. This meant shaking the solution vigorously then banging the bottle containing it on a leather bound book about homeopathy.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
Given that said companies want to lecture me about how I conduct my affairs, I think you, I, and she have exactly that right.
Why do you care so much? I just do not get it
I'm not looking for moral lessons from the people I do business with, especially given that their moral records tend to be far from spotless.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
Or indeed private companies advertising in general.
It would be interesting to follow the money and see if indeed it is a private company (I can't see a commercial benefit?) or if you and I are paying for it in some form.
Very happy to have Penny, she seems competent, sensible and normal. That is good for the country.
I do not think she will end up being a Labour destroying machine but we will see, I am often wrong as you all know.
She is a liar who has come up with one of the most insanely stupid policies so far proposed.
And this in an election brought about because of the lack of integrity of the current holder.
How very depressing. Integrity and telling the truth and avoiding corruption mean nothing to the Tory party. Superficial appearance and PR spin are all. The Tories may as well keep Boris and put him in a dress. He has the blond hair already.
Off to bed. I've branded my right arm quite badly. And typing with my left hand is tiring.
Night all.
Good luck with the arm. Do not be afraid to seek medical aid if necessary.
I concur with that. Go and see a medic. Around here we have a thing now called "Urgent Treatment Centres", which are walk-in or appt via 111, and which tend to have short waiting times.
I did one with oil from a wok when I dropped the steak in a bit too vigorously, and it was unexpectedly deep, and ended up with daily dressing changes at the local Docs for about 3 weeks.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
A business has the right to determine what it's priorities are, does it not?
Nah, Kemi has decided it's maximise shareholder return or bust.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
Given that said companies want to lecture me about how I conduct my affairs, I think you, I, and she have exactly that right.
Why do you care so much? I just do not get it
I'm not looking for moral lessons from the people I do business with, especially given that their moral records tend to be far from spotless.
Then find a company that has no values and deal with them.
So the heatwave has been downgraded…. Only to be upgraded
40C now forecast for Tuesday across parts of central, eastern England (as far north as Yorkshire)
That’s a mind-boggling temp. And now just 6 days away it is within the reasonably likely timeframe (tho it could still be derailed, natch)
You wonder if schools will be able to open in those temperatures. The appalling build quality - cramped, badly ventilated, too much glass and concrete - that was such a curse during Covid is not less of an issue in high temperatures.
They’re not alone.
https://twitter.com/DougChapmanSNP/status/1547270996541014018 Just been ejected from the HoC for not wearing a tie/jacket in the Chamber. It’s above 28C+ and a call was put out yesterday on the internal Parliament site regarding well-being during this heatwave. To cap it all, I signed and EDM on the Maximum Temperature in the Workplace.
Though some fool is proposing to spend £22bn on that…
100% with the MP on this topic. Quite apart from the fact that making people boil to death for the sake of observing Edwardian period etiquette isn't really on, these dress codes are ludicrously sexist.
I'm in favour of MPs being required to wear formal attire whilst in the Commons. I just think it's more professional, though I know some will disagree. However, any reasonable chair would apply any such rules in relaxed fashion during a period of such intense uncomfort.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
Erskine May is 1844. The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about. Also. There weren't women in Parliament then. A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Erskine May has been reviewed and updated many times, my hard copy was the 24th edition and released during Bercow's tenure as Speaker. I don't know why you are complaining about the rules, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
MP's should be required to wear Morning Dress. Anything else is unseemly.
But what about late night votes? Is there a place they can all switch to white tie?
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
It's not "free speech". This isn't about denying an individual the ability to freely express their views without fear or censure: this is about a megacorporation exploiting its financial muscle to buy up a massive public space and scream it in your face every day, day in day out.
We've all agreed Steve Bray is a dickhead, and what he does can't just be defended with "free speech".
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
That’s not a typical left wing view about the relationship between corporations and the state.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
A business has the right to determine what it's priorities are, does it not?
Of course not
I just said "No" to the the question about whether she had said "she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness" and quoted her to demonstrate that.
OK, so I'm officially scared about conditions on Tuesday - my train from Kings Cross to Inverness departs at 12pm (I return on Friday evening).
12pm is meaningless. Midnight or midday? And why not do the sleeper, if you aren't?
12pm i Ds midday 12am is midnight
Both are ambiguous. Say 12 noon or 12 midnight. We used to schedule work for 5 to or 5 past twelve to avoid ambiguity as to which day is intended, since does midnight Sunday mean the start or end of that day? The 24-hour clock is not much better, with 00:00 and 24:00 being the same time but on which day?
They are NOT ambiguous - 12pm has ALWAYS meant midday, and 12am has always meant midnight.
Are you going to Wick Thurso and Kyle? If so enjoy it! 👍
Hopefully, yes, and thanks! Got a seat booked on the Thurso/Wick train for Wednesday, and Kyle for Thursday.
Woke isn't a thing. It's all made up. Massively exaggerated etc.
Tonight's hectoring at Waterloo station - taken on my phone.
It is strangely totalitarian.
You find yourself starting to criticise it (ie: is 'sexist hate' really only a male phenomenon?), but then you realise that the act of criticism is defined as an act of denial or oppression, so whatever you try and do, you can't win.
The only viable solution is actually just to shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
Totalitarian? To have a poster suggesting that men could do something about stopping sexist hate? It’s not exactly Kristallnacht.
I don't want to be hectored by a corporation on what I need to do as a man on my way to work and home again. It's sanctimonious and patronising.
The reason no-one says anything is they know the response would be: "if people don't want to buy a contract from an inclusive phone company then they are welcome to shop elsewhere".
So, people ignore it. And quietly simmer.
So, you’re saying because of your hurt feelings, we should do away with free speech?
We can always choose Kemi Badenoch as PM as she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness. Focusing on the priorities, clearly.
She didn't really say that, did she? Goodness me.
No
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
What right does she have to tell how private companies conduct their affairs?
That’s not a typical left wing view about the relationship between corporations and the state.
I think the state can implement regulations and so on but the degree to which companies say stuff is really a matter for them, to be honest.
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An interesting list of 'supporters'. Includes Margaret Hodge, Luciana Burger, Glyn Davis, Robert Halfon and Keith Vaz. Plus a collection of Socialist Campaign Group types, but no Jeremy Corbyn.
In 2019 France spent 620m on it, a third from Social Security - but now they have followed us and stopped Govt money going on it.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/france-stops-funding-homeopathy-wxtrp6dnv
On the target:
Yes to Net Zero 2050: Rishi, Penny, Liz
Move Net Zero target back: Suella, Tom T
Change concept of target to be more accountable/delivery plan: Kemi
Penny and Liz would also suspend green levies
Go Penny!
For more on this and other news visit
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https://twitter.com/CSkidmoreUK/status/1547302977815322625
On the target:
Yes to Net Zero 2050: Rishi, Penny, Liz
Move Net Zero target back: Suella, Tom T
Change concept of target to be more accountable/delivery plan: Kemi
Penny and Liz would also suspend green levies
https://twitter.com/CSkidmoreUK/status/1547305522617110528
Go Penny!
Best utilises his treasury experience. His investment experience, his global contacts and global outlook.
But I find that story strange for another reason- Erskine May is clear a tie is not a requirement.
Members should dress in business-like attire; this need not include a tie.
https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/4889/members-dress/?highlight=attire
It even states
Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances
So the rules are perfectly sensible
In any case, Rishi can afford to stick around even if technically demoted. The new PM's ministry might well flop, leading to yet another leader even before the next general election. Boris is also said to have this in mind.
Instead of woke and climate change?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/13/penny-mordaunt-leadership-launch-john-crace-politics-sketch?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
But there’s no water in a pot of homeopathy pills. The only two ingredients are sugar and a stabiliser. I imagine the water memory must be so powerful that it survives all of the water being boiled away.
Or they put exactly the same sugar pills in every pot and the magic ingredient is the label.
The tie was not ubiquitous then. Cravats and scarves were still about.
Also. There weren't women in Parliament then.
A dress code from 1844 is ludicrous. As is compulsory tie wearing. It's dying out, not before time.
Sunak can’t win.
If it is asking men to stop domestic abuse, or child prostitution, then that is fine. No one would object to that.
But 'sexist hate' is expansive in its meaning. It can encompass almost any form of percieved mistreatment. And the trick is, as the problem stops with men, they have no remit in even defining what it is.
That is the problem.
I don't know why you are complaining about the rules though, the rules seem to be pretty clear a dress code from 1844 is not mandated - quite the opposite, it is clear 'Formerly it was the custom for gentlemen Members to wear jackets and ties, but this was not enforced in all circumstances'. And it absolutely says ties are not compulsory.
So this is another example where people are moaning about the rules or archaic customs, but neither are the cause here since they allow for circumstances where people do not have to wear jackets and ties.
Either there was another reason for the suspension, or whoever made the ruling was being an arse.
I'm all for raging against out of date customs (though my personal preference is to retain the ones that are not actually harmful or in practice in efficient, for character's sake), but in this one the customs have been brought up to date.
Except for Lady Lords able to wear hats without permission (implying men must have permission).
"the louder he spoke of his honour, the faster we counted our spoons."
You just know they'll be employing children in the Third World for a pittance, routing their profits through tax havens, and half their executives will have their hands up womens' skirts.
Personally I am on EE because they give me good coverage, I don't much mind what their policies are.
He's the only one in the Tory Party who is within the realms of economic plausibility right now.
And why shouldn't they be able to wear what they want?
They are the elected representatives. Not employees.
If they want to wear a thong and flip flops that's up to the voters, surely?
She is a liar who has come up with one of the most insanely stupid policies so far proposed.
And this in an election brought about because of the lack of integrity of the current holder.
How very depressing. Integrity and telling the truth and avoiding corruption mean nothing to the Tory party. Superficial appearance and PR spin are all. The Tories may as well keep Boris and put him in a dress. He has the blond hair already.
Off to bed. I've branded my right arm quite badly. And typing with my left hand is tiring.
Night all.
C'mon Liz!
He is the absolute best of our country, God bless him.
I mean, are you disputing that it is not in the rules that you have to wear a jacket and tie at all times? I linked to the rulebook and it is crystal clear about that
As for being able to wear whatever they want, that's obviously something MPs could agree to if they want.
But your point about representatives not employees is just dumb. Deliberative assemblies adopt rules, about interests, speaking, procedures, and yes, attire. The members have complete control and can review those procedures at any time, and do (for instance, they maintain people should not generally read a speech verbatim - though they do not enforce that rigorously - but its ok for people to use phones and tablets as an aide memoire). It's not unfair for an assembly to have procedural rules which representatives adhere to - they just need to keep it updated, and do. I think it has a good balance - you must be in business like attire, but it is flexible and should not be enforced in all circumstances (Jared O'Mara did not have to wear a shirt for instance, due to disability).
It's right there in black and white that you do not have to wear a tie - so if you want to have a rant about how wrong it is for rules to require a tie, I think you are looking in the wrong place. Someone applying the rules incorrectly doesn't magically make the rule the opposite of what it says.
"The right has lost its confidence and courage and ability to defend the free market as the fairest way of helping people prosper. It has been undermined by a willingness to embrace protectionism for special interests. It's been undermined by retreating in the face of the Ben and Jerry's tendency, those who say a business's main priority is social justice, not productivity and profits, and it's been undermined by the actions of crony capitalists, who collude with big bureaucracy to rig the system in favour of incumbents against entrepreneurs. "
By contrast, naturopathy is simply the belief that the chemicals you ingest each day (what we call food and drink) as well as other environmental factors, are going to have a huge impact on health. Which of course is entirely correct. I never know when someone is being accused of 'believing in homeopathy', whether they are being accused of the former, or the latter.
https://www.npl.co.uk/resources/q-a/is-midnight-12am-or-12pm
Also, bear in mind that you may be trying to communicate with someone who went to a different school from you, perhaps even abroad. Avoid ambiguity.
(As it happens, the horrific prospect of 40c could actually be reached up north - some models show Doncaster as the hot spot!)
He is, however, a classic example of an immigrant becoming a success, and if he trafficking story is true, an even greater achievement.
Give Liz Truss Home Secretary....
That would allow a rising start a stint as Chancellor to really impress.
People bang on about freedom of speech and expression, yet our elected representatives can't wear t-shirt and jeans, simply because a majority of their peers say so.
Why?
But it really isn't important at all in the scheme of things.
Like part of the Victorian water cure at places such as Malvern was placebo and part of it was diet, exercise and not drinking (so much) adulterated crap from the alcohol industry.
Hahnemann, homeopathy's founder, insisted that sucussion had to be properly done. This meant shaking the solution vigorously then banging the bottle containing it on a leather bound book about homeopathy.
It's fucking crackers.
Boris Johnson (CON): 31% (+6)
Keir Starmer (LAB): 28% (=)
via @RedfieldWilton, 10 Jul
(Changes with 6 Jul)
I did one with oil from a wok when I dropped the steak in a bit too vigorously, and it was unexpectedly deep, and ended up with daily dressing changes at the local Docs for about 3 weeks.
Which of the following individuals do you think would be the better Prime Minister?
Keir Starmer (LAB): 39% (=)
Boris Johnson (CON): 32% (-2)
via @RedfieldWilton, 10 Jul
(Changes with 3 Jul)
We've all agreed Steve Bray is a dickhead, and what he does can't just be defended with "free speech".
This is the corporate Steve Bray.
I just said "No" to the the question about whether she had said "she will ban Ben and Jerrys ice-cream on grounds of wokeness" and quoted her to demonstrate that.
Where does she say "ban B&Js"?