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Kyrgios just used the F word on court. Surely a code violation?0
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There’s something inwardly devious about him that people pick up on. Gove has a similar issue.Casino_Royale said:I can't see any reasons to back Hunt.
Personally, I like him but no-one else seems to agree - he's unpopular with the Tory base and, it seems, target voters in both the north and south.
It’s not necessarily fair. Johnson for example managed not to project this, despite being an entirely self-serving c**t (although once you did see this in Johnson it was impossible not to see it ever again).4 -
I made no such suggestion, and would not do such a thing.IshmaelZ said:
Mods here get twitchy over condoning political assassination. So I would like to condemn wholeheartedly home made gun man. Really naughty.Nigelb said:
Abe’s record of WWII apologetics was not a happy one.IshmaelZ said:
If that is right it is unbelievably vileTheuniondivvie said:Some Abe blackening as a distraction. An ‘unfortunate’ coincidence at the very least.
https://twitter.com/davide_melia/status/1545430542241304577?s=21&t=9vNMjuk1t_3uyJlRF4XaUQ
Note that the S Korean president condemned the assassination in the strongest possible terms - and Korea had, and has far stronger feelings on the issue than do I, and with good reason.0 -
I would in places like Hay-on-Wye, Scilly Isles, Holy Island, etc.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
Intention, or not.IshmaelZ said:
Not seen it but it seems to be a horrible exploitation movie celebrating unit 731 so what's the difference?MattW said:
Agree. That looks a false claim to link 731 "Refers to Unit 731".kle4 said:
I guess he was just a fan of the Hong Kong movie 'Men Behind the Sun'?Theuniondivvie said:Some Abe blackening as a distraction. An ‘unfortunate’ coincidence at the very least.
https://twitter.com/davide_melia/status/1545430542241304577?s=21&t=9vNMjuk1t_3uyJlRF4XaUQ
We're used here to abuse created on the basis of fabricated associations (on all wings of politics), and silly insistence on removal of alleged association that does not exist (see Johnnie Peacock).
Neither is useful, imo.0 -
Cash I don't carry, and cards I wouldn't leave anywhere - mainly because they are more dangerous skimmed and left with you than stolen.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan
Bags and laptops I wouldn't leave in any European City.
But anyone can come to Cambridge and nick my laptop while I go for a pee. (That said, I wouldn't fancy their chances against the fearsome cafe ladies who know me and my gear.)1 -
Neil O’Brien - Mr “Level Up” - has just come out for Badenoch, which is strange, as her public statements suggest she wants to radically down-size the state.
She already has a number of northern MPs in support.
Something odd going on here.4 -
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Irrelevant. Liking a celebration of a thing is the same thing as liking the thingMattW said:
Intention or not.IshmaelZ said:
Not seen it but it seems to be a horrible exploitation movie celebrating unit 731 so what's the difference?MattW said:
Agree. That looks a false claim to link 731 "Refers to Unit 731".kle4 said:
I guess he was just a fan of the Hong Kong movie 'Men Behind the Sun'?Theuniondivvie said:Some Abe blackening as a distraction. An ‘unfortunate’ coincidence at the very least.
https://twitter.com/davide_melia/status/1545430542241304577?s=21&t=9vNMjuk1t_3uyJlRF4XaUQ1 -
The sound of snoring from anyone unfortunate enough to watch the Tug-End interview.Gardenwalker said:All the criticisms of Rishi are entirely accurate, even if they are made by sore losers like Rees-Mogg and Goldsmith.
The man’s a menace.
I just watched the Tugendhat interview.
A bit clunky, but he’s totally sound.0 -
I meant me not you.Nigelb said:
I made no such suggestion, and would not do such a thing.IshmaelZ said:
Mods here get twitchy over condoning political assassination. So I would like to condemn wholeheartedly home made gun man. Really naughty.Nigelb said:
Abe’s record of WWII apologetics was not a happy one.IshmaelZ said:
If that is right it is unbelievably vileTheuniondivvie said:Some Abe blackening as a distraction. An ‘unfortunate’ coincidence at the very least.
https://twitter.com/davide_melia/status/1545430542241304577?s=21&t=9vNMjuk1t_3uyJlRF4XaUQ
Note that the S Korean president condemned the assassination in the strongest possible terms - and Korea had, and has far stronger feelings on the issue than do I, and with good reason.1 -
And yet he still has more charisma than Keir Starmer.SandyRentool said:
The sound of snoring from anyone unfortunate enough to watch the Tug-End interview.Gardenwalker said:All the criticisms of Rishi are entirely accurate, even if they are made by sore losers like Rees-Mogg and Goldsmith.
The man’s a menace.
I just watched the Tugendhat interview.
A bit clunky, but he’s totally sound.
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The dream of the EU was always a good one. The reality was not always up to it, but that's ok so long as they work at it, and not get complacent.Leon said:Home thoughts from the near abroad
I’ve recently noticed EU politicians - eg Ursula Von D L - using the phrase “European Dream”, in direct contrast to “American Dream”
Sitting here in Rose, Montenegro, i am certainly looking at the European Dream. A handsome historic Venetian village by the Adriatic. Lots of people enjoying their sunny Sunday, eating, drinking, swimming, sunbathing. Big family groups,. Boating and paddleboarding. Almost no obesity, because the food is good and wholesome (if basic) and everyone walks the walkable old towns and villages
Pretty much zero crime. No guns. Decent local wine
I honestly doubt if there are many humans enjoying life more than Montenegrins right here right now, in their unpretentious but beautiful country. This despite them having a GDP per capita of just $25k
The EU is on to something with this “European Dream” thing. Tho, ironically, Montenegro is not in the EU
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How’s the British dream going?kle4 said:
The dream of the EU was always a good one. The reality was not always up to it, but that's ok so long as they work at it, and not get complacent.Leon said:Home thoughts from the near abroad
I’ve recently noticed EU politicians - eg Ursula Von D L - using the phrase “European Dream”, in direct contrast to “American Dream”
Sitting here in Rose, Montenegro, i am certainly looking at the European Dream. A handsome historic Venetian village by the Adriatic. Lots of people enjoying their sunny Sunday, eating, drinking, swimming, sunbathing. Big family groups,. Boating and paddleboarding. Almost no obesity, because the food is good and wholesome (if basic) and everyone walks the walkable old towns and villages
Pretty much zero crime. No guns. Decent local wine
I honestly doubt if there are many humans enjoying life more than Montenegrins right here right now, in their unpretentious but beautiful country. This despite them having a GDP per capita of just $25k
The EU is on to something with this “European Dream” thing. Tho, ironically, Montenegro is not in the EU
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Hmmm. I *never* do *anything* like that.mwadams said:
Cash I don't carry, and cards I wouldn't leave anywhere - mainly because they are more dangerous skimmed and left with you than stolen.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan
Bags and laptops I wouldn't leave in any European City.
But anyone can come to Cambridge and nick my laptop while I go for a pee. (That said, I wouldn't fancy their chances against the fearsome cafe ladies who know me and my gear.)
More domestically, I have the first year's crop on my Black Butte blackberry bush, within 7-8m of the drive entrance.
About 4 of the 6 blackberries have vanished.
Should I blame pigeons or pedestrians walking by?1 -
Could be better. Why, were you under the impression my point was knocking the EU? It wasn't.Gardenwalker said:
How’s the British dream going?kle4 said:
The dream of the EU was always a good one. The reality was not always up to it, but that's ok so long as they work at it, and not get complacent.Leon said:Home thoughts from the near abroad
I’ve recently noticed EU politicians - eg Ursula Von D L - using the phrase “European Dream”, in direct contrast to “American Dream”
Sitting here in Rose, Montenegro, i am certainly looking at the European Dream. A handsome historic Venetian village by the Adriatic. Lots of people enjoying their sunny Sunday, eating, drinking, swimming, sunbathing. Big family groups,. Boating and paddleboarding. Almost no obesity, because the food is good and wholesome (if basic) and everyone walks the walkable old towns and villages
Pretty much zero crime. No guns. Decent local wine
I honestly doubt if there are many humans enjoying life more than Montenegrins right here right now, in their unpretentious but beautiful country. This despite them having a GDP per capita of just $25k
The EU is on to something with this “European Dream” thing. Tho, ironically, Montenegro is not in the EU0 -
Mr. Walker, what do you mean, something strange with support for Badenoch?0
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Still calling it for Djokovic - two sets to one now.0
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Kyrgios ranting and raving!0
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I'm never entirely sure why Kyrgios doesn't just go off and do something else that he actually likes and enjoys instead.1
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It would be a race to the bottom with those two plus Davey.Gardenwalker said:
And yet he still has more charisma than Keir Starmer.SandyRentool said:
The sound of snoring from anyone unfortunate enough to watch the Tug-End interview.Gardenwalker said:All the criticisms of Rishi are entirely accurate, even if they are made by sore losers like Rees-Mogg and Goldsmith.
The man’s a menace.
I just watched the Tugendhat interview.
A bit clunky, but he’s totally sound.0 -
Mr. Flare, maybe he enjoys being a shouty fellow?0
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You’re right, I posted too soon.kle4 said:
Could be better. Why, were you under the impression my point was knocking the EU? It wasn't.Gardenwalker said:
How’s the British dream going?kle4 said:
The dream of the EU was always a good one. The reality was not always up to it, but that's ok so long as they work at it, and not get complacent.Leon said:Home thoughts from the near abroad
I’ve recently noticed EU politicians - eg Ursula Von D L - using the phrase “European Dream”, in direct contrast to “American Dream”
Sitting here in Rose, Montenegro, i am certainly looking at the European Dream. A handsome historic Venetian village by the Adriatic. Lots of people enjoying their sunny Sunday, eating, drinking, swimming, sunbathing. Big family groups,. Boating and paddleboarding. Almost no obesity, because the food is good and wholesome (if basic) and everyone walks the walkable old towns and villages
Pretty much zero crime. No guns. Decent local wine
I honestly doubt if there are many humans enjoying life more than Montenegrins right here right now, in their unpretentious but beautiful country. This despite them having a GDP per capita of just $25k
The EU is on to something with this “European Dream” thing. Tho, ironically, Montenegro is not in the EU
I’m quite interested in what the British dream actually consists of.
I think, unlike the American and European versions, it involves being a rentier, which if true explains a lot of problems about the UK.1 -
You're assumingGardenwalker said:Neil O’Brien - Mr “Level Up” - has just come out for Badenoch, which is strange, as her public statements suggest she wants to radically down-size the state.
She already has a number of northern MPs in support.
Something odd going on here.
a) she means what she says
b) even if she does, people will act rationally in their support.1 -
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Djokovic is the more likable of the two by far.Sunil_Prasannan said:Kyrgios ranting and raving!
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Badenoch could potentially consolidate support from the ERG wing after Braverman drops out, and the Mayite wing. She's got a stronger chance of making it into the final 2 than most of the others.Gardenwalker said:Neil O’Brien - Mr “Level Up” - has just come out for Badenoch, which is strange, as her public statements suggest she wants to radically down-size the state.
She already has a number of northern MPs in support.
Something odd going on here.2 -
Seems to be the only explanation, really. The tennis is just a good excuse for him to rant and rave to an audience.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Flare, maybe he enjoys being a shouty fellow?
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Kyrgios is clearly the new John Mcenroe0
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Personally I think she’s undercooked.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Walker, what do you mean, something strange with support for Badenoch?
But logically if you believe the government needs to spend more on the North, why would you support someone who wants to spend less on everyone?
(Unless you think she can appeal to northern seats).
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Cracking tennis.0
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Mr. Walker, ah, I've spotted the flaw in your reasoning.
You're attempting to view the Conservative leadership election through a lens of logic.
Last time, they elected Boris Johnson. If logic played a significant role, this event could not have transpired.3 -
Badenoch's support is mostly from MPs elected in 2017 and 2019. Potentially new MPs backing someone they see as a future leader (even if too soon this time)williamglenn said:
Badenoch could potentially consolidate support from the ERG wing after Braverman drops out, and the Mayite wing. She's got a stronger chance of making it into the final 2 than most of the others.Gardenwalker said:Neil O’Brien - Mr “Level Up” - has just come out for Badenoch, which is strange, as her public statements suggest she wants to radically down-size the state.
She already has a number of northern MPs in support.
Something odd going on here.0 -
Told youSunil_Prasannan said:Still calling it for Djokovic - two sets to one now.
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They did tend to be jerry-built by speculators.Gardenwalker said:
Oh now I get the piano nobile reference.Leon said:
No I live in a Grade II listed late Georgian terrace (converted) which is very handsome to look at but it impossible to keep cool. Maybe not allowed aircon because of the listingGardenwalker said:
Sorry to sound like a stalker but from memory you live in a modern block with full-walled (or close) windows.Leon said:My south facing piano nobile Camden flat, with its floor to ceiling windows, can easily be 10C hotter than the temp outside, in hot sunny weather
So it could be 52C. With no aircon
Think I’ll be spending the weekend in Sainsburys
Doesn’t it get BLOODY hot, and why isn’t here aircon?
I see from US travel twitter that one of the main bitches about Europe (not England per se) is the lack of ubiquitous aircon.
I thought you were just talking yourself up.
In my experience those Georgian terraces are nice and cool in the basement flat, but less so upstairs.1 -
Badenoch is currently only one MP behind Truss and Hunt.Gardenwalker said:Neil O’Brien - Mr “Level Up” - has just come out for Badenoch, which is strange, as her public statements suggest she wants to radically down-size the state.
She already has a number of northern MPs in support.
Something odd going on here.
If she gets 2 more MPs then she's in 3rd place.1 -
Mr. Royale, may not come to this, but if Sunak thinks he has sufficient support to choose his opponent, I wonder who he would go for.1
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Probably Hunt, as he'd beat him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Royale, may not come to this, but if Sunak thinks he has sufficient support to choose his opponent, I wonder who he would go for.
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Possibly Starmer is beatable, but wading through the UK newpapers this afternoon I see nothing in any of the Tory contenders that he has to fear. More to the point, whoever the next Conservative leader ends up being, they are going to face constant and vicious sniping from their own side. After two years of the Tories taking chunks out each other I think the electorate will loathe them beyond all reason. I am wondering it we might not see a Tory vote share even below 1997. Labour and increasingly the Lib Dems are massively better organised and a couple more good by elections and strong locals next spring could put a lot of pressure on a divided and disorganized Conservative organisation attempting to defend a fairly dire record in government.6
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You definitely can't leave Blackberries unattended.MattW said:
Hmmm. I *never* do *anything* like that.mwadams said:
Cash I don't carry, and cards I wouldn't leave anywhere - mainly because they are more dangerous skimmed and left with you than stolen.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan
Bags and laptops I wouldn't leave in any European City.
But anyone can come to Cambridge and nick my laptop while I go for a pee. (That said, I wouldn't fancy their chances against the fearsome cafe ladies who know me and my gear.)
More domestically, I have the first year's crop on my Black Butte blackberry bush, within 7-8m of the drive entrance.
About 4 of the 6 blackberries have vanished.
Should I blame pigeons or pedestrians walking by?2 -
Pigeons and/or blackbirds - been eating our redcurrants.mwadams said:
You definitely can't leave Blackberries unattended.MattW said:
Hmmm. I *never* do *anything* like that.mwadams said:
Cash I don't carry, and cards I wouldn't leave anywhere - mainly because they are more dangerous skimmed and left with you than stolen.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan
Bags and laptops I wouldn't leave in any European City.
But anyone can come to Cambridge and nick my laptop while I go for a pee. (That said, I wouldn't fancy their chances against the fearsome cafe ladies who know me and my gear.)
More domestically, I have the first year's crop on my Black Butte blackberry bush, within 7-8m of the drive entrance.
About 4 of the 6 blackberries have vanished.
Should I blame pigeons or pedestrians walking by?1 -
I just watched Shapps on Ridge.
I very much like how he says he wants the UK to be the biggest economy in Europe by 2050.
As a liberal-social democrat with gaullist tendencies, I approve.1 -
Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.2 -
He has everything to fear from everyone because he has nothing to offer except prosecution skills which work when the opposition has done something wrong, and ideally you haven’t.Cicero said:Possibly Starmer is beatable, but wading through the UK newpapers this afternoon I see nothing in any of the Tory contenders that he has to fear. More to the point, whoever the next Conservative leader ends up being, they are going to face constant and vicious sniping from their own side. After two years of the Tories taking chunks out each other I think the electorate will loathe them beyond all reason. I am wondering it we might not see a Tory vote share even below 1997. Labour and increasingly the Lib Dems are massively better organised and a couple more good by elections and strong locals next spring could put a lot of pressure on a divided and disorganized Conservative organisation attempting to defend a fairly dire record in government.
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Really....I don't generally like going for drinks with dodgy second hand car salesmen types. He is sort that is going to take that opportunity to hard sell you a car, double glazing, crypto, an MLM opportunity ....Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.2 -
I said consider…FrancisUrquhart said:
Really....I don't generally like going for drinks with dodgy second hand car salesmen types. He is going to hard sell you a car, double glazing, crypto ....Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.
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@Farooq - we were complaining about Edinburgh at Arts Festival time the other day. Surprised to find that HMG have anticipated this issue and are doing what they can to knee it in the goolies:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/10/post-brexit-visa-rules-a-disaster-for-arts-says-edinburgh-festival-director1 -
I joked the other day that if Shapps wasn't an MP/cabinet minister he'd be on Twitter promotings NFTs guaranteed to turn a profit.FrancisUrquhart said:
Really....I don't generally like going for drinks with dodgy second hand car salesmen types. He is sort that is going to take that opportunity to hard sell you a car, double glazing, crypto, an MLM opportunity ....Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.2 -
He'd probably give you the wrong business card for the persona de la nuit - at which you would promptly wonder WTF!, abandon your drink and buy yourself a fresh one at the bar.Gardenwalker said:
I said consider…FrancisUrquhart said:
Really....I don't generally like going for drinks with dodgy second hand car salesmen types. He is going to hard sell you a car, double glazing, crypto ....Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.0 -
Are we sure Mr Green isn't?TheScreamingEagles said:
I joked the other day that if Shapps wasn't an MP/cabinet minister he'd be on Twitter promotings NFTs guaranteed to turn a profit.FrancisUrquhart said:
Really....I don't generally like going for drinks with dodgy second hand car salesmen types. He is sort that is going to take that opportunity to hard sell you a car, double glazing, crypto, an MLM opportunity ....Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.0 -
I think we’ve seen enough of Keir to know that his strength is administration and his weakness is retail politics.IshmaelZ said:
He has everything to fear from everyone because he has nothing to offer except prosecution skills which work when the opposition has done something wrong, and ideally you haven’t.Cicero said:Possibly Starmer is beatable, but wading through the UK newpapers this afternoon I see nothing in any of the Tory contenders that he has to fear. More to the point, whoever the next Conservative leader ends up being, they are going to face constant and vicious sniping from their own side. After two years of the Tories taking chunks out each other I think the electorate will loathe them beyond all reason. I am wondering it we might not see a Tory vote share even below 1997. Labour and increasingly the Lib Dems are massively better organised and a couple more good by elections and strong locals next spring could put a lot of pressure on a divided and disorganized Conservative organisation attempting to defend a fairly dire record in government.
If he must insist on being PM he needs charismatics and visionaries right underneath him.1 -
You can do that in Sweden, Cyprus, and most of Scotland.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
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Jerry-built Georgian. Quite literally. VGMattW said:
They did tend to be jerry-built by speculators.Gardenwalker said:
Oh now I get the piano nobile reference.Leon said:
No I live in a Grade II listed late Georgian terrace (converted) which is very handsome to look at but it impossible to keep cool. Maybe not allowed aircon because of the listingGardenwalker said:
Sorry to sound like a stalker but from memory you live in a modern block with full-walled (or close) windows.Leon said:My south facing piano nobile Camden flat, with its floor to ceiling windows, can easily be 10C hotter than the temp outside, in hot sunny weather
So it could be 52C. With no aircon
Think I’ll be spending the weekend in Sainsburys
Doesn’t it get BLOODY hot, and why isn’t here aircon?
I see from US travel twitter that one of the main bitches about Europe (not England per se) is the lack of ubiquitous aircon.
I thought you were just talking yourself up.
In my experience those Georgian terraces are nice and cool in the basement flat, but less so upstairs.
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Since that is what many people said about Boris I would say it is probably a negative qualification.Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.0 -
Pant’s out.
And Kholi, and Sharma.
31/3 chasing 216.
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He also said he didn’t see why the Boris regime had to end, “unlike colleagues”.Cicero said:
Since that is what many people said about Boris I would say it is probably a negative qualification.Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.
He said it in a cheery way, though.
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I liked what Chris Packham said about Johnson after his resignation speechCicero said:
Since that is what many people said about Boris I would say it is probably a negative qualification.Gardenwalker said:Shapps also looks, possibly alongside Mordaunt, the only person you’d consider having a drink with.
If that’s important.
"Our political system isn’t ‘Darwinian’ . Evolution works on a ruthless and effective meritocracy . And it’s functional , has been for billions of years . Our political system as it stands should be extinct because it’s plainly not functional and bloody obviously not a meritocracy"5 -
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
No, you can’tStuartDickson said:
You can do that in Sweden, Cyprus, and most of Scotland.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
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Yes, but that self-evidently makes you a hard man, with whom nane daur meddle. Swimming off Aberdeen and the Broch FFS.Farooq said:
Aberdeenshire beaches. Any time I go in the sea I leave my stuff on the beach unguarded. Never a problem.JonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
Yes sunglasses, shoes and mobile phone on the beach here an hour ago. Nobody nicked them.Farooq said:
Aberdeenshire beaches. Any time I go in the sea I leave my stuff on the beach unguarded. Never a problem.JonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
I've been to both Don and Dee estuaries - but never in the seaCarnyx said:
Yes, but that self-evidently makes you a hard man, with whom nane daur meddle. Swimming off Aberdeen and the Broch FFS.Farooq said:
Aberdeenshire beaches. Any time I go in the sea I leave my stuff on the beach unguarded. Never a problem.JonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan 1 -
Again, not trueJonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
Like EdM and his “get round the table and negotiate” interview?DavidL said:
He seems very conscious that most news media will only use a few seconds of the interview so he repeats his key point again and again. When you get a longer play it just looks positively weird. Same words again and again.oxfordsimon said:My housemate who rarely engages politically caught a bit of Starmer being interviewed on the news and she immediately picked up on his lack of charisma in the way he speaks, his tendency to repeat himself and the lack of substance in what he actually said
She is someone who regularly votes Green or LD and so not completely against left of centre candidates.
But she was less than impressed by the way he comes across on screen.
If you can't persuade people to listen to you because of the way you present yourself through the media, they are never going to bother to hear what you have to say.
Setting aside the lack of policy clarity, it is this presentational issue that will continue to hamper Starmer.
Edit, see how badly that reads?
For your viewing delight:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCem9EZb-YA
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This is not a beachJonWC said:
Yes sunglasses, shoes and mobile phone on the beach here an hour ago. Nobody nicked them.Farooq said:
Aberdeenshire beaches. Any time I go in the sea I leave my stuff on the beach unguarded. Never a problem.JonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
You mean the uninhabited parts?StuartDickson said:
You can do that in Sweden, Cyprus, and most of Scotland.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?0 -
I'm glad you are omniscient as well as apparently omnipresent.Leon said:
Again, not trueJonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
JonWC said:
I'm glad you are omniscient as well as apparently omnipresent.Leon said:
Again, not trueJonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan
I know Devon really well, i was born there
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You can do it anywhere - it's just what probability there is for you to come back to it still there...Leon said:
No, you can’tStuartDickson said:
You can do that in Sweden, Cyprus, and most of Scotland.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?0 -
Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA0 -
Data leak reveals how Macron and others helped Uber.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/jul/10/uber-files-leak-reveals-global-lobbying-campaign1 -
O phuck0
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As long as Donald doesn't fancy some new underwearFarooq said:
Aberdeenshire beaches. Any time I go in the sea I leave my stuff on the beach unguarded. Never a problem.JonWC said:
I've done similar many times in East Devon. Never a problem.Leon said:
In the UK?!mwadams said:
I regularly do that in places that aren't London. Maybe I'm a trusting fool.Leon said:This is how little crime there is in Montenegro
Big bustling (excellent) seafood restaurant in a pretty seaside village. Hundreds of people nearby
The group next to me - late 20s, jolly - have all, in sequence, stood up and walked away. Temporarily leaving behind 2 phones, a purse, several bags, sunglasses, car keys
Incredible. Was Britain once like this?
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in the UK. Maybe I am a jaded Londoner. They also left purses behind - with cash and cards
I wouldn’t do that anywhere in western Europe except perhaps REALLY rural spots, and Switzerland
The only other countries I’ve seen behaviour like this in super busy places is Singapore and Japan0 -
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
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Let me sketch again what I witnessed in Rose, Montenegro
It’s a sizeable, very pretty seaside village, with one large resort hotel, several smaller hotels, a little marina, water sports, half a dozen bustling bars and restaurants. I imagine in winter it is deeply quiet but on a summer Sunday it was rammed with tourists, with people parked all the way up the hill behind
The beaches were crowded but I wasn’t on a beach, I was 20 metres away in a big well-known seafood restaurant which was also rammed with lunchers and drinkers, mainly Montenegrin/Croatian/Serb tourists but I heard some Germans, French etc
The table next to me was hosting a crowd of people in their late 20s. One by one they got up to head off, mostly to go swimming (I saw them). They were gone 40 minutes at least (by that time I had to go myself, so they might have been gone for much longer), they left behind everything, quite casually: phones, bags, purses, money, sunnies, everything (as the picture shows)
I do not believe you would do this in a big pub in a crowded holiday village anywhere in the UK, nor anywhere I know in the rest of Western Europe, with the POSSIBLE exception of Switzerland. No one leaves behind their phone in a big bustling bar for 40 minutes (minimum). It is not a thing
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Convenient it only comes out after Macron re-election...
They detail the extensive help Uber got from leaders such as Emmanuel Macron and ex-EU commissioner Neelie Kroes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-620573210 -
They may even not get a choiceMISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.0 -
Perhaps they are "some bodies" and nicking their stuff might not end well....I have certainly experienced this in latin America where petty theft is often omnipresent, but people know who not to steal from because you end paying for it with your life.Leon said:Let me sketch again what I witnessed in Rose, Montenegro
It’s a sizeable, very pretty seaside village, with one large resort hotel, several smaller hotels, a little marina, water sports, half a dozen bustling bars and restaurants. I imagine in winter it is deeply quiet but on a summer Sunday it was rammed with tourists, with people parked all the way up the hill behind
The beaches were crowded but I wasn’t on a beach, I was 20 metres away in a big well-known seafood restaurant which was also rammed with lunchers and drinkers, mainly Montenegrin/Croatian/Serb tourists but I heard some Germans, French etc
The table next to me was hosting a crowd of people in their late 20s. One by one they got up to head off, mostly to go swimming (I saw them). They were gone 40 minutes at least (by that time I had to go myself, so they might have been gone for much longer), they left behind everything, quite casually: phones, bags, purses, money, sunnies, everything (as the picture shows)
I do not believe you would do this in a big pub in a crowded holiday village anywhere in the UK, nor anywhere I know in the rest of Western Europe, with the POSSIBLE exception of Switzerland. No one leaves behind their phone in a big bustling bar for 40 minutes (minimum). It is not a thing0 -
However a Sunday Times poll today had Sunak, Mordaunt and Tugendhat polling equal best in the redwall seats of the Tory leadership contenders in terms of net approval.MISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
Even though Starmer polls better than all the Tory contenders now in the redwall with Boris gone
https://twitter.com/thom_brooks/status/1546148929229692930?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA0 -
That would be even worse. And fatal for the conservatives in my view. John Redwood is rarely if ever a passionate man, but speaking on radio this morning, the contempt he had for Sunak was palpable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They may even not get a choiceMISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
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I think most people - in the US, the UK or France - are pretty glad that old school restrictive practice taxi laws were changed. It's dramatically lowered the cost of transportation, and increased its avalability.FrancisUrquhart said:Convenient it only comes out after Macron re-election...
They detail the extensive help Uber got from leaders such as Emmanuel Macron and ex-EU commissioner Neelie Kroes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62057321
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Men's title for novax, women's off to Moscow lol1
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It is unlikely but the new leader will herald a very different cabinet and not appointed as cronies as evidenced by the dreadful Dorries and JRMMISTY said:
That would be even worse. And fatal for the conservatives in my view. John Redwood is rarely if ever a passionate man, but speaking on radio this morning, the contempt he had for Sunak was palpable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They may even not get a choiceMISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.1 -
More I think about it the more pathetic Are you ready for rishi sounds, like an arch query addressed to a little darlin' in a whorehouse, and the funnier the All my mates is poshboiz clip. Twat.MISTY said:
That would be even worse. And fatal for the conservatives in my view. John Redwood is rarely if ever a passionate man, but speaking on radio this morning, the contempt he had for Sunak was palpable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They may even not get a choiceMISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
#PB4TOMT0 -
I knew a guy who had his back nicked in a London pub a few years back. He had his flat keys in it and possibly something with his address on it, so the whole changing-the-locks thing had to ensue. But who does this sort of theft? Chancers? I suspect it's more likely to be criminal gangs doing a sweep.Leon said:Let me sketch again what I witnessed in Rose, Montenegro
It’s a sizeable, very pretty seaside village, with one large resort hotel, several smaller hotels, a little marina, water sports, half a dozen bustling bars and restaurants. I imagine in winter it is deeply quiet but on a summer Sunday it was rammed with tourists, with people parked all the way up the hill behind
The beaches were crowded but I wasn’t on a beach, I was 20 metres away in a big well-known seafood restaurant which was also rammed with lunchers and drinkers, mainly Montenegrin/Croatian/Serb tourists but I heard some Germans, French etc
The table next to me was hosting a crowd of people in their late 20s. One by one they got up to head off, mostly to go swimming (I saw them). They were gone 40 minutes at least (by that time I had to go myself, so they might have been gone for much longer), they left behind everything, quite casually: phones, bags, purses, money, sunnies, everything (as the picture shows)
I do not believe you would do this in a big pub in a crowded holiday village anywhere in the UK, nor anywhere I know in the rest of Western Europe, with the POSSIBLE exception of Switzerland. No one leaves behind their phone in a big bustling bar for 40 minutes (minimum). It is not a thing1 -
Do you ever have a view independent from your choice of pollsHYUFD said:
However a Sunday Times poll today had Sunak, Mordaunt and Tugendhat polling equal best in the redwall seats of the Tory leadership contenders in terms of net approval.MISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
Even though Starmer polls better than all the Tory contenders now in the redwall with Boris gone
https://twitter.com/thom_brooks/status/1546148929229692930?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
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FrancisUrquhart said:
Perhaps they are "some bodies" and nicking their stuff might not end well....Leon said:Let me sketch again what I witnessed in Rose, Montenegro
It’s a sizeable, very pretty seaside village, with one large resort hotel, several smaller hotels, a little marina, water sports, half a dozen bustling bars and restaurants. I imagine in winter it is deeply quiet but on a summer Sunday it was rammed with tourists, with people parked all the way up the hill behind
The beaches were crowded but I wasn’t on a beach, I was 20 metres away in a big well-known seafood restaurant which was also rammed with lunchers and drinkers, mainly Montenegrin/Croatian/Serb tourists but I heard some Germans, French etc
The table next to me was hosting a crowd of people in their late 20s. One by one they got up to head off, mostly to go swimming (I saw them). They were gone 40 minutes at least (by that time I had to go myself, so they might have been gone for much longer), they left behind everything, quite casually: phones, bags, purses, money, sunnies, everything (as the picture shows)
I do not believe you would do this in a big pub in a crowded holiday village anywhere in the UK, nor anywhere I know in the rest of Western Europe, with the POSSIBLE exception of Switzerland. No one leaves behind their phone in a big bustling bar for 40 minutes (minimum). It is not a thing
I considered that, but they didn’t look like rich kids. More like neo-hippies and surf dudes
I think Montenegro is simply a high trust, homogenous society. I’ve noticed people don’t lock houses or cars, either
A quick google says there IS some crime - drugs, people trafficking - generally linked with Italy - but more minor crimes are notably rare - a few pickpockets in Kotor etc. Must be nice to feel that safe day-to-day0 -
No - I agree with that scenario completely.Leon said:Let me sketch again what I witnessed in Rose, Montenegro
It’s a sizeable, very pretty seaside village, with one large resort hotel, several smaller hotels, a little marina, water sports, half a dozen bustling bars and restaurants. I imagine in winter it is deeply quiet but on a summer Sunday it was rammed with tourists, with people parked all the way up the hill behind
The beaches were crowded but I wasn’t on a beach, I was 20 metres away in a big well-known seafood restaurant which was also rammed with lunchers and drinkers, mainly Montenegrin/Croatian/Serb tourists but I heard some Germans, French etc
The table next to me was hosting a crowd of people in their late 20s. One by one they got up to head off, mostly to go swimming (I saw them). They were gone 40 minutes at least (by that time I had to go myself, so they might have been gone for much longer), they left behind everything, quite casually: phones, bags, purses, money, sunnies, everything (as the picture shows)
I do not believe you would do this in a big pub in a crowded holiday village anywhere in the UK, nor anywhere I know in the rest of Western Europe, with the POSSIBLE exception of Switzerland. No one leaves behind their phone in a big bustling bar for 40 minutes (minimum). It is not a thing1 -
"Exclusive: The anti-Rishi ‘mucky memo’ setting alight Tory WhatsApp groups
The 424-word salvo, included below, accuses former chancellor of 'arrogance, indolence, ignorance' and is an attempt to avoid a coronation"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/10/exclusive-anti-rishi-mucky-memo-setting-alight-tory-whatsapp/1 -
Many elections are more about person than policy. The next one will be very different, I think. IF the tories go into the next election with a manifesto designed by Davos, they will get obliterated.HYUFD said:
However a Sunday Times poll today had Sunak, Mordaunt and Tugendhat polling equal best in the redwall seats of the Tory leadership contenders in terms of net approval.MISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
Even though Starmer polls better than all the Tory contenders now in the redwall with Boris gone
https://twitter.com/thom_brooks/status/1546148929229692930?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
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Half the point of this site is pollsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever have a view independent from your choice of pollsHYUFD said:
However a Sunday Times poll today had Sunak, Mordaunt and Tugendhat polling equal best in the redwall seats of the Tory leadership contenders in terms of net approval.MISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
Even though Starmer polls better than all the Tory contenders now in the redwall with Boris gone
https://twitter.com/thom_brooks/status/1546148929229692930?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA1 -
I did reckon earlier this week that there was going to be an incoming hatchet job on Zahawi. Is the leak that HMRC are looking into him it or is their more?
I'd bet on more
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That's very common. I know entire groups of people who had their bags emptied in a London pub when they were all sat at a table with bags at their feet.Stark_Dawning said:
I knew a guy who had his back nicked in a London pub a few years back. He had his flat keys in it and possibly something with his address on it, so the whole changing-the-locks thing had to ensue. But who does this sort of theft? Chancers? I suspect it's more likely to be criminal gangs doing a sweep.Leon said:Let me sketch again what I witnessed in Rose, Montenegro
It’s a sizeable, very pretty seaside village, with one large resort hotel, several smaller hotels, a little marina, water sports, half a dozen bustling bars and restaurants. I imagine in winter it is deeply quiet but on a summer Sunday it was rammed with tourists, with people parked all the way up the hill behind
The beaches were crowded but I wasn’t on a beach, I was 20 metres away in a big well-known seafood restaurant which was also rammed with lunchers and drinkers, mainly Montenegrin/Croatian/Serb tourists but I heard some Germans, French etc
The table next to me was hosting a crowd of people in their late 20s. One by one they got up to head off, mostly to go swimming (I saw them). They were gone 40 minutes at least (by that time I had to go myself, so they might have been gone for much longer), they left behind everything, quite casually: phones, bags, purses, money, sunnies, everything (as the picture shows)
I do not believe you would do this in a big pub in a crowded holiday village anywhere in the UK, nor anywhere I know in the rest of Western Europe, with the POSSIBLE exception of Switzerland. No one leaves behind their phone in a big bustling bar for 40 minutes (minimum). It is not a thing
It is definitely organized.0 -
What is the other half ?HYUFD said:
Half the point of this site is pollsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Do you ever have a view independent from your choice of pollsHYUFD said:
However a Sunday Times poll today had Sunak, Mordaunt and Tugendhat polling equal best in the redwall seats of the Tory leadership contenders in terms of net approval.MISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
Even though Starmer polls better than all the Tory contenders now in the redwall with Boris gone
https://twitter.com/thom_brooks/status/1546148929229692930?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA0 -
Interesting article thank you. Much is on the right lines.
I maintain my long term position that there is currently no data whatsoever upon which you can distinguish the probabilities of a Labour led or Tory led government following the next election. Therefore both SKS and A.N.Other are both eminently beatable.
My one big disagreement with TSE is on Badenoch. If appointed leader it changes everything about politics, and everything about the UK. All in good ways. It is even not impossible that if this happened it would in all sorts of circles be cool to be Tory, something impossible with all other candidates.
Plainly a number of candidates are unappointable, which in Tory history does not disqualify them. My minority view is that Rishi isn one of them. If one of them is elected the odds change.
The only two whose appointment change the odds in the Tories favour are Mordaunt and Badenoch. Both would make the chance of the next government being Tory something like 60%.
For personal preference I want Hunt. For the country and politically I want Badenoch.0 -
I think the Conservatives would be mad to pick anyone other than Morduant. She's bright, articulate, and supported Brexit (but isn't mad).MISTY said:
I think this is starting to shape up very, very badly for the conservatives.HYUFD said:Tom Tugendhat leaps to third place in Tory MPs endorsements behind Sunak and Mordaunt after Karen
Bradley's backing
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1546162976104878081?s=20&t=6s-mAMl327v6ChyfYsFZWA
The members are going to get a choice of tweedle dum or tweedle dee from the left of the party. Sunak plus one.
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