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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,362

    Leon said:

    I've enlarged THE TOOTING-GATE UAP VIDEO and I reckon the Daily Mail are right, it is a rocket. You can freeze frame it at 8 seconds, when for a tiny moment the image clarifies, and it has a distinct cinched waist like a more angular V2 rocket

    Though that could also fit a fighter jet shooting straight up, I suppose

    The size remains a mystery, it must be pretty big, but if it is as big as she claims that is sensational. 10 times the size of a jet plane?

    That has to be wrong, an optical illusion, but even so - as I say - it must be pretty big. It's too stable to be little

    Who the hell is firing chunky-ass rockets to the south west of Tooting?!

    Size confusion all due to perspective surely?
    A handy instructional video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMiKyfd6hA0
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    Leon said:
    "26-year-old freelance graphic designer Gabriella, who requested her full name not be published."
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    YokesYokes Posts: 1,200
    Of course Johnson is going, its whether its 5 weeks or 5 months away, thats all.

    All of this will look rather small beer however if shit kicks off in Eastern Europe. I posted as far back as November that the US was warning allies in Europe that Russia was doing things much more seriously around Ukraine this time around. Of course the usual suspects like Merkel were burying the head in the sand. No one is now.

    Putin is in danger of getting to a point where he cant be seen just shrug and prretend it was a ll a big ruse if the US & NATO do not play. You do not ship forces from your Eastern military district bordering the Pacific for amusement. In all the cycles of this threat against Ukraine that kind of movement hasnt happened before.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,258
    GIN1138 said:

    Good evening PB.

    Anyone else starting to get bored with Partygate?
    .

    Given the context of that awful, awful, period in our lives when we gave up so much ... no.

    We will talk about other things, of course, but we will never forget. And we will never forgive.
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137
    The outcome of this has already happened. Boris will not resign. He will not be forced out. He has become and will remain a figure of contempt and ridicule. Not an outcome you can bet on sadly but if you could then it would have paid out by now.
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    Did we establish whether aliens have landed in Tooting? It’s the other side of London from me, and I haven’t been in years, but there’s a few decent boozers down there. The King’s Head is reasonable choice for our intergalactic friends.

    Kudos.

    PB does cater to a diverse, eclectic crowd.

    However, believe providing pub crawl tips for intergalactic invaders is definitely a first!
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    Cookie said:

    Oh dear Boris. You can fool some of the people all of the time (approx 8%!), some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

    Basic problem is that Johnson has always believed the public are idiots who are easily manipulated by his charms. He has to now realise that they have finally sussed him and the game is up.

    I don't think that's the problem. This isn't some Machiavellian scheme of great cunning. There's no manipulation involved. This is just Boris (and others) not following the rules they themselves set.
    1D draughts?
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    Leon said:
    If the thing was real, how come it didn't fly over your patch in Camden???
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,258

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 42% (+5)
    CON: 32% (-1)
    LDEM: 11% (-)
    GRN: 4% (-1)

    via
    @SavantaComRes
    , 13 - 14 Jan
    Chgs. w/ 09 Jan

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1482069385913286660

    Had this song playing in my head all day

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU

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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,415

    Did we establish whether aliens have landed in Tooting? It’s the other side of London from me, and I haven’t been in years, but there’s a few decent boozers down there. The King’s Head is reasonable choice for our intergalactic friends.

    Kudos.

    Jaffna House does some of the best Sri Lankan food in London.
    This is all very ‘Worlds End’ or Shaun of the dead 🤣
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,804

    GIN1138 said:

    Good evening PB.

    Anyone else starting to get bored with Partygate?

    The outrage about today's "revelations" about people partying on the eve of Prince Philips funeral seems confected as well given the vast majority of the leftie journos at BBC, ITV and Sky as well as the Labour Party would get rid of Her Majesty tomorrow is they could.

    I think the Sunday papers need to bring something new to the table or it feels like it's starting to fizzle until that Sue persons reports anyway...

    Hope springs eternal. Like Tory faith in Boris Johnson?
    Well I've already said Boris should go because he and his Downing St. machine have been taking the piss and his behaviour have been despicable.

    But the daily "revelations" are beginning to get boring. There needs to be a new angle IMO.

    The police side of this could be one such angle? What were the police doing while all these parties were going on? Did they turn a blind eye? Did they join in?
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,144

    Leon said:
    "26-year-old freelance graphic designer Gabriella, who requested her full name not be published."
    That’s a bit ‘Domingo from Little Oakley’
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198

    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.

    Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited January 2022
    Every home in the U.S. will be able to order 4 free COVID tests from January 19. There are no shipping costs. Orders can be placed at https://t.co/Bsp3w5muBs

    For some people in the UK that is a mornings supply.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,953

    dixiedean said:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 42% (+5)
    CON: 32% (-1)
    LDEM: 11% (-)
    GRN: 4% (-1)

    via
    @SavantaComRes
    , 13 - 14 Jan
    Chgs. w/ 09 Jan

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1482069385913286660

    That's only a 1.25% swing from 1997.
    Am I using Electoral Calculus correctly then? It shows Labour still 1 short of a majority on these figures.
    That shows how bad a loss Scotland has been. And how efficient the Tory share has become.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,070
    You have just witnessed some excellent freelancering

    Story arrives in my Whatsapp from a friend at about 4.40pm, it is INTERNATIONAL NEWS in the Daily Mail 3 hours later

    Nice work, if I say so myself
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,592
    GIN1138 said:

    Good evening PB.

    Anyone else starting to get bored with Partygate?

    The outrage about today's "revelations" about people partying on the eve of Prince Philips funeral seems confected as well given the vast majority of the leftie journos at BBC, ITV and Sky as well as the Labour Party would get rid of Her Majesty tomorrow is they could.

    I think the Sunday papers need to bring something new to the table or it feels like it's starting to fizzle until that Sue persons reports anyway...

    They are just taking the piss now. A leaving party for the head of the covid taskforce:

    🔴EXCLUSIVE: The former head of the government unit responsible for drawing up Covid-19 restrictions was given a “boozy” leaving party just days before Christmas, it can be disclosed.

    Read more: https://t.co/nqMG9vjlyG
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    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.

    Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.

    Called it.....
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    Ka fucking booom...


    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    🍾 staff bought a £142 fridge to store wine, Prosecco & beer

    🧳aides visited local Tesco metro with wheely suitcase to stock 34-bottle capacity fridge

    🛳️ mostly press office but military adviser now commanding UK's largest warship also turned up
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    EabhalEabhal Posts: 5,893
    Leon said:

    You have just witnessed some excellent freelancering

    Story arrives in my Whatsapp from a friend at about 4.40pm, it is INTERNATIONAL NEWS in the Daily Mail 3 hours later

    Nice work, if I say so myself
    What, precisely, is your relationship with 26 year old Gabriella?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    PM attended “handful” of the gatherings when indoor socialising banned - but witnessed more.

    “He would come in and say ‘Hello everyone, had a hard week? Letting off some steam? Oh great’.

    “The idea he didn’t know there were drinks is total nonsense."
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,263
    Taz said:

    Why are so many shrewd Political Punters on here, at this end of the week, still posting they think he will survive? The Smithsons, Eagles?

    I’m calling it. The moment the reports published the letters go in.

    What the report says, how damaging it is, doesn’t matter at all now, my tip to Sue play it safe warble on about Peppa Pig, no one will notice it doesn’t matter what you say, because report publication it’s purely the moment the Conservative Party claims it has enough to act.

    This is the kicker: They have already been given enough to act, by Boris himself this week, when he admitted he lied to Parliament, admitted he broke the law, admitted he was at a party the same hour his spokesman was telling the nation nobody could! After the report, MPs send their letters in with piece to camera saying ‘from this report it unfortunately looks like Boris repeatedly mislead the house, and I don’t want to do this, as you know I voted for him, but we can’t have that.’

    The report doesn’t matter now, they already have what they need. It matters only as symbolic cover for the action. The truth is, what drives the remaining letters and the comprehensive vonc is appreciating how this cocktail of anger and ridicule, of memes on distrust and betrayal that perhaps last for generations, is now damaging the whole party long term, not just Boris electoral prospects long term.

    I’ve called it. Only about ten more excruciating days of Boozy Bozo to go and we enter the interesting New World of post Boris Conservative Politics.

    And on that note, let’s party 🥳

    I think he’s gone after he drubbing they get in the May locals. The party won’t stomach the loss of many hard working councillors to pander to this clowns ego.
    Yes, it’s now or May. For reasons well rehearsed, May is hugely better for the Tory contenders and the party collectively; the only questions are whether they can possibly keep a lid on the discontent for that long, and what damage keeping him on would do in the meantime.

    The Tory councillors they’d sacrifice by playing it long are no more a consideration than the Downing Street staff being listed for special measures.
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137


    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.

    Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.

    So you could drip drip roughly 90 or so of these since the start of the pandemic? (My maths is awful)
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    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good evening PB.

    Anyone else starting to get bored with Partygate?

    The outrage about today's "revelations" about people partying on the eve of Prince Philips funeral seems confected as well given the vast majority of the leftie journos at BBC, ITV and Sky as well as the Labour Party would get rid of Her Majesty tomorrow is they could.

    I think the Sunday papers need to bring something new to the table or it feels like it's starting to fizzle until that Sue persons reports anyway...

    Hope springs eternal. Like Tory faith in Boris Johnson?
    Well I've already said Boris should go because he and his Downing St. machine have been taking the piss and his behaviour have been despicable.

    But the daily "revelations" are beginning to get boring. There needs to be a new angle IMO.

    The police side of this could be one such angle? What were the police doing while all these parties were going on? Did they turn a blind eye? Did they join in?
    You may have a point, though am thinking that THIS scandal is just too hot to cool off so quickly.

    Plus likelihood of more you-know-what hitting the fan . . .
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,144
    Wine Fridays. Which the PM ‘witnessed’ apparently.

    https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    🚨A flavour of some reaction from Tory MPs today:

    One elected 2019: "Last night I was getting emails into my inbox every minute from Tory activists & Tory voters. Out of 250 emails I received yesterday, only 5 said leave Boris Johnson alone. The rest were saying his time is up."

    https://twitter.com/ionewells/status/1482081537634013188
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,658
    DougSeal said:

    The outcome of this has already happened. Boris will not resign. He will not be forced out. He has become and will remain a figure of contempt and ridicule. Not an outcome you can bet on sadly but if you could then it would have paid out by now.

    You can sort of bet on that outcome... it equates to a Lab majority in the next GE.
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    Leon said:

    I've enlarged THE TOOTING-GATE UAP VIDEO and I reckon the Daily Mail are right, it is a rocket. You can freeze frame it at 8 seconds, when for a tiny moment the image clarifies, and it has a distinct cinched waist like a more angular V2 rocket

    Though that could also fit a fighter jet shooting straight up, I suppose

    The size remains a mystery, it must be pretty big, but if it is as big as she claims that is sensational. 10 times the size of a jet plane?

    That has to be wrong, an optical illusion, but even so - as I say - it must be pretty big. It's too stable to be little

    Who the hell is firing chunky-ass rockets to the south west of Tooting?!

    Phil Plait on the Bad Astronomy blog has a couple of really good pieces (you'll have to do a bit of searching, I can't remember the exact links) about how humans are really bad at estimating perspective, distance and speed, especially against a sky background. He wrote them because it's the commonest cause of people thinking that they've seen a UFO when they've actually seen a plane, a star, a cloud or a toy.

    I can't tell what that is because, frankly, the quality is very poor, but it'll be one of those things.
    Just think: if it was TEN TIMES the size of a jet, flying over London, would there be one video, or would there be a thousand.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,070
    Eabhal said:

    Leon said:

    You have just witnessed some excellent freelancering

    Story arrives in my Whatsapp from a friend at about 4.40pm, it is INTERNATIONAL NEWS in the Daily Mail 3 hours later

    Nice work, if I say so myself
    What, precisely, is your relationship with 26 year old Gabriella?
    I could not possibly comment
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198


    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.

    Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.

    Called it.....
    He's done.

    It is over.

    By Monday?
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981

    ... Basic problem is that Johnson has always believed the public are idiots who are easily manipulated by his charms. ...

    And, up to now, Boris appears to have been correct in that assumption. He seems to have built a career on it
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    Did we establish whether aliens have landed in Tooting? It’s the other side of London from me, and I haven’t been in years, but there’s a few decent boozers down there. The King’s Head is reasonable choice for our intergalactic friends.

    Kudos.

    Jaffna House does some of the best Sri Lankan food in London.
    This is all very ‘Worlds End’ or Shaun of the dead 🤣
    Not sure either movie had any Sri Lankan characters!
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137


    Pippa Crerar
    @PippaCrerar
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    EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.

    Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.

    Called it.....
    He's done.

    It is over.

    By Monday?
    Nope. Not a chance. None. He’s going nowhere.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,415
    Leon said:
    Airplane contrail caught in the setting Sun.

    What else have you got?
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    GIN1138 said:

    Good evening PB.

    Anyone else starting to get bored with Partygate? ...

    Bored? Absolutely not. I am enjoying it immensely :)
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    TimSTimS Posts: 9,595
    But still 32% of people are AOK with the government, it seems.

    This is another example of how much better off we’d be with PR. In the absence of an “anyone but labour” note the Tories would have plunged to single figures this week. And it would have benefited REFUK, the Greens, the SDP, the Lib Dems and no doubt new parties like the one nation conservatives or the libertarian party as well as Labour.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,804
    Scott_xP said:
    Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    Bloody hell they're reading the "Wine Time Fridays" story out on Any Questions.

    Chris Philp tries to defend.

    Audience furious.

    https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1482084640945061899
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,559
    edited January 2022
    Hey, here's a cartoon idea for the great (edit) Matt. (Though Marf is great too.)

    One of the great natural wonders of the great Granite State of New Hampshire (mottos: "Live Free or Die" and "Why Do You Want to be President") was the famous Old Man of the Mountain. A rock outcropping so iconic that it was chosen for the NH state quarter struck by US Mint.

    Until the sad day that it collapsed suddenly due to slow but inexorable erosion over tip

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain

    Drip, drip, drip, drip . . . crack . . . boom!

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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,592
    Taz said:

    Wine Fridays. Which the PM ‘witnessed’ apparently.

    https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21

    They bought a fridge for the wine...
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited January 2022
    Scott_xP said:
    Somebody taking photographic evidence which they have now deployed, including it being delivered.
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137
    edited January 2022
    But what was being tested? And who was resting it? I hope you were not dusting down the equipment on one of your subs?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    I'm calling it.

    Johnson will not survive this weekend. I have changed my mind.
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You're gonna have to wait for the Mail to publish, for the actual video of Tooting-gate. Soz

    The street lights have just gone out here. Stage two of the alien invasion?
    In the words of my friend in Tooting

    SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY GOING ON


    No little green men visible in Leicester, though it is rather foggy.

    AT LEAST IT SEEMS TO BE FOG
    It may well be fog, but who sent it? And what does it really want? :open_mouth:
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,804
    TimS said:

    But still 32% of people are AOK with the government, it seems.

    This is another example of how much better off we’d be with PR. In the absence of an “anyone but labour” note the Tories would have plunged to single figures this week. And it would have benefited REFUK, the Greens, the SDP, the Lib Dems and no doubt new parties like the one nation conservatives or the libertarian party as well as Labour.

    Don't forget Gina Millers new party! :D
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    Chris Philp asked if Boris Johnson is a model of integrity. Long pause. "I don't think he's immoral."
    https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1482085520478019588
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    ... Basic problem is that Johnson has always believed the public are idiots who are easily manipulated by his charms. ...

    And, up to now, Boris appears to have been correct in that assumption. He seems to have built a career on it
    Thing is that, up to now, Boris has always got caught out.

    The funny thing is that, having slunk away, he has always managed to charm his way into something better.

    What the hell does he do next?
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    StereodogStereodog Posts: 400
    Anecdote alert: I'm sitting in my local community center having a glass of wine and reading the Radio Times (I know how to live). Big group of people came in and the first thing they talked about was the Downing Street party and the comparison with a local business which got fined during lockdown. This is in true blue Huntingdonshire. No sign of fatigue yet on this issue.
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    pingping Posts: 3,731

    I'm calling it.

    Johnson will not survive this weekend. I have changed my mind.

    I think he’ll survive.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    I am guessing BooZo might be having a wine time Friday tonight.

    Completely suitcased I suspect
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,070

    Leon said:
    Airplane contrail caught in the setting Sun.

    What else have you got?
    Going directly up?

    I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane

    But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!

    Ker-CHING, anyway
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Wine Fridays. Which the PM ‘witnessed’ apparently.

    https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21

    They bought a fridge for the wine...
    Civil Service: It was bought for milk originally, but some rogue elements, mainly Spads, used it for alcohol without any one's knowledge.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    An extraordinary picture has emerged of the chiller being delivered through the back door of Downing Street on December 11, 2020 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-wine-time-fridays-25951853 https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1482081022779047943/photo/1


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    nico679nico679 Posts: 4,784
    Perhaps the civil servants who were being lined up to be the sacrificial lambs will decide to bring down Bozo !
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,415
    Leon said:

    Leon said:
    Airplane contrail caught in the setting Sun.

    What else have you got?
    Going directly up?

    I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane

    But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!

    Ker-CHING, anyway
    If it turns into this, put soft cheese into your ears immediately.

    image

    I’m saying this as a friend.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    New poll from Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus 13 Jan
    Lab 41% +3
    Con 27% -3
    Lib Dem 11% +1
    Green 8% -2
    Reform 5% -2
    Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137
    edited January 2022
    The Any Questions audience at the mo


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    kjhkjh Posts: 10,620
    Leon said:

    You have just witnessed some excellent freelancering

    Story arrives in my Whatsapp from a friend at about 4.40pm, it is INTERNATIONAL NEWS in the Daily Mail 3 hours later

    Nice work, if I say so myself
    Very impressed.

    Did everyone else get the video of the other UFO near the coast. Clearly a big balloon the shape of an animal. Difficult to tell but a bit like a pig.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,144
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Wine Fridays. Which the PM ‘witnessed’ apparently.

    https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21

    They bought a fridge for the wine...
    What on Earth was going through their heads at the time.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    Pippa Crerar has scoop of the year surely, unless the Sunday papers have even worse?
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    Leon said:

    Leon said:
    Airplane contrail caught in the setting Sun.

    What else have you got?
    Going directly up?

    I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane

    But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!

    Ker-CHING, anyway
    How come you didn't see it in Camden?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Wine Fridays. Which the PM ‘witnessed’ apparently.

    https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21

    They bought a fridge for the wine...
    What on Earth was going through their heads at the time.
    I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL AND I DONT CARE.
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    Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 7,981

    ... Basic problem is that Johnson has always believed the public are idiots who are easily manipulated by his charms. ...

    And, up to now, Boris appears to have been correct in that assumption. He seems to have built a career on it
    Thing is that, up to now, Boris has always got caught out.

    The funny thing is that, having slunk away, he has always managed to charm his way into something better.

    What the hell does he do next?
    He ignores everything and carries on
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,263
    Leon said:
    From the video it could easily be a plane flying across, obliquely.

    If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited January 2022

    Pippa Crerar has scoop of the year surely, unless the Sunday papers have even worse?

    Photo of Boris partying would be the icing on the cake.
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    They bought a fucking fridge?

    Epic fail. This is brilliant!

    The ONE thing that has driven people mad - especially the PB Tories and right-leaning contributors - is all the rules, the restrictions, the "lockdowns". And at the heart of government, they just ignored all the rules they forced us to follow!

    Cue HY with some polling that actually people support the PM letting his hairdown and actually wine time fridays may have encouraged some okey-doke which may have led to whatever Boris's 17th child is called and people live children actually.
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    GIN1138 said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
    Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.

    However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.

    Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.

    NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    New poll says 14 pt lead for Labour

    CON 27% -18 (from GE2019)
    LAB 41% +8
    LIB 11% -1
    Reform 5% +3
    Green 8% +5

    2,128 online respondents on 13 January 2022.
    Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus
    https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198

    Pippa Crerar has scoop of the year surely, unless the Sunday papers have even worse?

    Photo of Boris partying would be the icing on the cake.
    He is fecking toast.

    I doubt he will make the end of the weekend now.

    Bye.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,263

    Leon said:
    "26-year-old freelance graphic designer Gabriella, who requested her full name not be published."
    Ten seconds on Google.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    As has been evident for a while - the parties story has plenty of ammo, and is being very methodically released bit by bit. We've not seen the best year, and Johnson is cooked. I wonder what's in store for the Sundays?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198

    Angela Rayner
    @AngelaRayner
    ·
    1h
    This is quite insulting to dogs.

    They understand loyalty, not throwing people under the bus.
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137

    GIN1138 said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
    Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.

    However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.

    Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.

    NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
    Maybe it’s a New England Puritan thing but my (by U.K. standards very moderate) drinking habits have me labelled as a borderline alcoholic by my Connecticut in-laws.
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    DougSeal said:

    The Any Questions audience at the mo


    Is that Malc there in the front row, wearing bib overalls? Certainly is a handsome devil!
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    Scott_xP said:

    New poll from Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus 13 Jan
    Lab 41% +3
    Con 27% -3
    Lib Dem 11% +1
    Green 8% -2
    Reform 5% -2
    Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208

    Ok, where's Mohammed Saeed al-Hyufd got to? We need an explanation, now.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    SICIPM
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,263
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 42% (+5)
    CON: 32% (-1)
    LDEM: 11% (-)
    GRN: 4% (-1)

    via
    @SavantaComRes
    , 13 - 14 Jan
    Chgs. w/ 09 Jan

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1482069385913286660

    That's only a 1.25% swing from 1997.
    Am I using Electoral Calculus correctly then? It shows Labour still 1 short of a majority on these figures.
    That shows how bad a loss Scotland has been. And how efficient the Tory share has become.
    The other factor is the piling up of big majorities in London and the big cities
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    It is over.

    We have a leadership contest within a month imho.

    Stand by your bets kids.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,070
    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:
    From the video it could easily be a plane flying across, obliquely.

    If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
    lol. The Daily Mail doing dodgy reporting??? Never!

    The way the chemtrail curves does suggest a plane, but then the absence of wings is odd, but that can be explained by the distance and the low sunlight, and maybe pollution haze


    FFS IT'S A PLANE WHY IS THE MAIL PRINTING THIS SENSATIONALIST CRAP
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    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:
    From the video it could easily be a plane flying across, obliquely.

    If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
    lol. The Daily Mail doing dodgy reporting??? Never!

    The way the chemtrail curves does suggest a plane, but then the absence of wings is odd, but that can be explained by the distance and the low sunlight, and maybe pollution haze


    FFS IT'S A PLANE WHY IS THE MAIL PRINTING THIS SENSATIONALIST CRAP
    If it's a UFO, how come you didn't see it in Camden?
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    They delivered a fridge too small for BoZo to hide in...
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137

    Scott_xP said:

    New poll from Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus 13 Jan
    Lab 41% +3
    Con 27% -3
    Lib Dem 11% +1
    Green 8% -2
    Reform 5% -2
    Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208

    Ok, where's Mohammed Saeed al-Hyufd got to? We need an explanation, now.
    Or BJO to tell us any other leader would be 20 points ahead.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,362
    DougSeal said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
    Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.

    However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.

    Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.

    NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
    Maybe it’s a New England Puritan thing but my (by U.K. standards very moderate) drinking habits have me labelled as a borderline alcoholic by my Connecticut in-laws.
    Very US.

    I have heard people describe the drinking of 4 Martinis as "frightening"
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited January 2022
    I don't see how anybody working in #10 at the time can survive.

    Its very fortunate that Dishy Rishi doesn't live in Downing Street.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198
    "Sources claimed that aides took turns on Fridays to visit the local Tesco Metro in Westminster with a wheely suitcase to fill up the 34-bottle capacity fridge."

    Mirror
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,983

    Scott_xP said:

    New poll from Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus 13 Jan
    Lab 41% +3
    Con 27% -3
    Lib Dem 11% +1
    Green 8% -2
    Reform 5% -2
    Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208

    Ok, where's Mohammed Saeed al-Hyufd got to? We need an explanation, now.
    Still not as low even on that poll as May's Tories in Spring 2019 or Major's Tories in 1995 who were both sub 25%
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    DougSeal said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
    Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.

    However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.

    Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.

    NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
    Maybe it’s a New England Puritan thing but my (by U.K. standards very moderate) drinking habits have me labelled as a borderline alcoholic by my Connecticut in-laws.
    Puritans forsook the Nutmeg State long ago! Think what your experiencing is an American thing.

    My own perception is that social drinking, in particular pub culture is significantly more common in UK than US. Though we may well redress the balance via non-social drinking?

    And do NOT get me started on Ireland!
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,198

    I don't see how anybody working in #10 at the time can survive.

    Its very fortunate that Dishy Rishi doesn't live in Downing Street.

    This has now gone thermo nuclear in political terms.

    There is no way I think that Johnson can be standing at the despatch box next Wed for PMQs.

    The Raab discussion earlier just got interesting.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,592
    Taz said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Wine Fridays. Which the PM ‘witnessed’ apparently.

    https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21

    They bought a fridge for the wine...
    What on Earth was going through their heads at the time.
    Pink elephants and Delerium Tremens..
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1482086326077898755

    Haha, 'Wine Time Fridays' was put into some of their calendars.
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    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    New poll from Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus 13 Jan
    Lab 41% +3
    Con 27% -3
    Lib Dem 11% +1
    Green 8% -2
    Reform 5% -2
    Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208

    Ok, where's Mohammed Saeed al-Hyufd got to? We need an explanation, now.
    Still not as low even on that poll as May's Tories in Spring 2019 or Major's Tories in 1995 who were both sub 25%
    Give it time.
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    JonWCJonWC Posts: 285

    *** Betting Post ***

    In the Next PM market (Betfair), you can currently get over 40.0 on Raab. I think that's excellent value (I've just topped up at 50.0).

    The important thing here is the exact rules which Betfair apply:

    "We will settle this market on the Prime Minister after Boris Johnson as published on https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/prime-minister "

    So this is NOT the same as the Next Leader market, where an interim leader doesn't count. The Betfair rules correctly reflect the fact that, constitutionally, there's no such thing as an interim PM, just a PM. If Boris stands down in a hurry, then there's a possibility we might need an temporary PM while the Conservative Party chooses a new leader. There's a good chance that would be current Deputy PM Raab, in which you win. You might also win by him becoming next leader; that's not likely, but better than 40 to 1 odds ain't bad even without the temporary PM bonus.

    With other bookies, rules may be different.

    DYOR, this is not advice, etc etc.

    I wondered what had happened to the market. I've been doing clips of this at 60 for the same reasons as you.

    Boris strikes me as exactly the sort of person who might throw his seal of office out the pram even before the letters go in. You could even argue he couldn't continue in office if he is found to have broken his own laws.

    I think Raab is not a serious candidate for the permanent job so the Queen would have an obvious uncontroversial short notice choice.

    I'd say the real value if this is closer to 10.

    Betfair have defined their market tightly enough so that even they can't prevaricate. I reckon...
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    DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,137
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    New poll from Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus 13 Jan
    Lab 41% +3
    Con 27% -3
    Lib Dem 11% +1
    Green 8% -2
    Reform 5% -2
    Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208

    Ok, where's Mohammed Saeed al-Hyufd got to? We need an explanation, now.
    Still not as low even on that poll as May's Tories in Spring 2019 or Major's Tories in 1995 who were both sub 25%
    So what you’re basically saying is that Johnson will be ejected like May or suffer a crushing landslide defeat at the next election like Major?
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,070

    I don't see how anybody working in #10 at the time can survive.

    Its very fortunate that Dishy Rishi doesn't live in Downing Street.

    It does feel like a total implosion. A political Chernobyl

    Dominic Cummings, not a man you want as an enemy
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,887
    Thoughts and prayers with Rees-Mogg tonight. Fucking twat.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,263
    DougSeal said:

    The Any Questions audience at the mo


    First Q from the audience: “is there one more leaving party to organise at Downing Street?”
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