The outcome of this has already happened. Boris will not resign. He will not be forced out. He has become and will remain a figure of contempt and ridicule. Not an outcome you can bet on sadly but if you could then it would have paid out by now.
Did we establish whether aliens have landed in Tooting? It’s the other side of London from me, and I haven’t been in years, but there’s a few decent boozers down there. The King’s Head is reasonable choice for our intergalactic friends.
Kudos.
PB does cater to a diverse, eclectic crowd.
However, believe providing pub crawl tips for intergalactic invaders is definitely a first!
Oh dear Boris. You can fool some of the people all of the time (approx 8%!), some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
Basic problem is that Johnson has always believed the public are idiots who are easily manipulated by his charms. He has to now realise that they have finally sussed him and the game is up.
I don't think that's the problem. This isn't some Machiavellian scheme of great cunning. There's no manipulation involved. This is just Boris (and others) not following the rules they themselves set.
Did we establish whether aliens have landed in Tooting? It’s the other side of London from me, and I haven’t been in years, but there’s a few decent boozers down there. The King’s Head is reasonable choice for our intergalactic friends.
Kudos.
Jaffna House does some of the best Sri Lankan food in London.
This is all very ‘Worlds End’ or Shaun of the dead 🤣
The outrage about today's "revelations" about people partying on the eve of Prince Philips funeral seems confected as well given the vast majority of the leftie journos at BBC, ITV and Sky as well as the Labour Party would get rid of Her Majesty tomorrow is they could.
I think the Sunday papers need to bring something new to the table or it feels like it's starting to fizzle until that Sue persons reports anyway...
Hope springs eternal. Like Tory faith in Boris Johnson?
Well I've already said Boris should go because he and his Downing St. machine have been taking the piss and his behaviour have been despicable.
But the daily "revelations" are beginning to get boring. There needs to be a new angle IMO.
The police side of this could be one such angle? What were the police doing while all these parties were going on? Did they turn a blind eye? Did they join in?
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 7m EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.
Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
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For some people in the UK that is a mornings supply.
The outrage about today's "revelations" about people partying on the eve of Prince Philips funeral seems confected as well given the vast majority of the leftie journos at BBC, ITV and Sky as well as the Labour Party would get rid of Her Majesty tomorrow is they could.
I think the Sunday papers need to bring something new to the table or it feels like it's starting to fizzle until that Sue persons reports anyway...
They are just taking the piss now. A leaving party for the head of the covid taskforce:
🔴EXCLUSIVE: The former head of the government unit responsible for drawing up Covid-19 restrictions was given a “boozy” leaving party just days before Christmas, it can be disclosed.
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 7m EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.
Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
Why are so many shrewd Political Punters on here, at this end of the week, still posting they think he will survive? The Smithsons, Eagles?
I’m calling it. The moment the reports published the letters go in.
What the report says, how damaging it is, doesn’t matter at all now, my tip to Sue play it safe warble on about Peppa Pig, no one will notice it doesn’t matter what you say, because report publication it’s purely the moment the Conservative Party claims it has enough to act.
This is the kicker: They have already been given enough to act, by Boris himself this week, when he admitted he lied to Parliament, admitted he broke the law, admitted he was at a party the same hour his spokesman was telling the nation nobody could! After the report, MPs send their letters in with piece to camera saying ‘from this report it unfortunately looks like Boris repeatedly mislead the house, and I don’t want to do this, as you know I voted for him, but we can’t have that.’
The report doesn’t matter now, they already have what they need. It matters only as symbolic cover for the action. The truth is, what drives the remaining letters and the comprehensive vonc is appreciating how this cocktail of anger and ridicule, of memes on distrust and betrayal that perhaps last for generations, is now damaging the whole party long term, not just Boris electoral prospects long term.
I’ve called it. Only about ten more excruciating days of Boozy Bozo to go and we enter the interesting New World of post Boris Conservative Politics.
And on that note, let’s party 🥳
I think he’s gone after he drubbing they get in the May locals. The party won’t stomach the loss of many hard working councillors to pander to this clowns ego.
Yes, it’s now or May. For reasons well rehearsed, May is hugely better for the Tory contenders and the party collectively; the only questions are whether they can possibly keep a lid on the discontent for that long, and what damage keeping him on would do in the meantime.
The Tory councillors they’d sacrifice by playing it long are no more a consideration than the Downing Street staff being listed for special measures.
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 7m EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.
Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
So you could drip drip roughly 90 or so of these since the start of the pandemic? (My maths is awful)
The outrage about today's "revelations" about people partying on the eve of Prince Philips funeral seems confected as well given the vast majority of the leftie journos at BBC, ITV and Sky as well as the Labour Party would get rid of Her Majesty tomorrow is they could.
I think the Sunday papers need to bring something new to the table or it feels like it's starting to fizzle until that Sue persons reports anyway...
Hope springs eternal. Like Tory faith in Boris Johnson?
Well I've already said Boris should go because he and his Downing St. machine have been taking the piss and his behaviour have been despicable.
But the daily "revelations" are beginning to get boring. There needs to be a new angle IMO.
The police side of this could be one such angle? What were the police doing while all these parties were going on? Did they turn a blind eye? Did they join in?
You may have a point, though am thinking that THIS scandal is just too hot to cool off so quickly.
Plus likelihood of more you-know-what hitting the fan . . .
One elected 2019: "Last night I was getting emails into my inbox every minute from Tory activists & Tory voters. Out of 250 emails I received yesterday, only 5 said leave Boris Johnson alone. The rest were saying his time is up." https://twitter.com/ionewells/status/1482081537634013188
The outcome of this has already happened. Boris will not resign. He will not be forced out. He has become and will remain a figure of contempt and ridicule. Not an outcome you can bet on sadly but if you could then it would have paid out by now.
You can sort of bet on that outcome... it equates to a Lab majority in the next GE.
I've enlarged THE TOOTING-GATE UAP VIDEO and I reckon the Daily Mail are right, it is a rocket. You can freeze frame it at 8 seconds, when for a tiny moment the image clarifies, and it has a distinct cinched waist like a more angular V2 rocket
Though that could also fit a fighter jet shooting straight up, I suppose
The size remains a mystery, it must be pretty big, but if it is as big as she claims that is sensational. 10 times the size of a jet plane?
That has to be wrong, an optical illusion, but even so - as I say - it must be pretty big. It's too stable to be little
Who the hell is firing chunky-ass rockets to the south west of Tooting?!
Phil Plait on the Bad Astronomy blog has a couple of really good pieces (you'll have to do a bit of searching, I can't remember the exact links) about how humans are really bad at estimating perspective, distance and speed, especially against a sky background. He wrote them because it's the commonest cause of people thinking that they've seen a UFO when they've actually seen a plane, a star, a cloud or a toy.
I can't tell what that is because, frankly, the quality is very poor, but it'll be one of those things. Just think: if it was TEN TIMES the size of a jet, flying over London, would there be one video, or would there be a thousand.
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 7m EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.
Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
Did we establish whether aliens have landed in Tooting? It’s the other side of London from me, and I haven’t been in years, but there’s a few decent boozers down there. The King’s Head is reasonable choice for our intergalactic friends.
Kudos.
Jaffna House does some of the best Sri Lankan food in London.
This is all very ‘Worlds End’ or Shaun of the dead 🤣
Not sure either movie had any Sri Lankan characters!
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 7m EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.
Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
But still 32% of people are AOK with the government, it seems.
This is another example of how much better off we’d be with PR. In the absence of an “anyone but labour” note the Tories would have plunged to single figures this week. And it would have benefited REFUK, the Greens, the SDP, the Lib Dems and no doubt new parties like the one nation conservatives or the libertarian party as well as Labour.
Hey, here's a cartoon idea for the great (edit) Matt. (Though Marf is great too.)
One of the great natural wonders of the great Granite State of New Hampshire (mottos: "Live Free or Die" and "Why Do You Want to be President") was the famous Old Man of the Mountain. A rock outcropping so iconic that it was chosen for the NH state quarter struck by US Mint.
Until the sad day that it collapsed suddenly due to slow but inexorable erosion over tip
But still 32% of people are AOK with the government, it seems.
This is another example of how much better off we’d be with PR. In the absence of an “anyone but labour” note the Tories would have plunged to single figures this week. And it would have benefited REFUK, the Greens, the SDP, the Lib Dems and no doubt new parties like the one nation conservatives or the libertarian party as well as Labour.
Anecdote alert: I'm sitting in my local community center having a glass of wine and reading the Radio Times (I know how to live). Big group of people came in and the first thing they talked about was the Downing Street party and the comparison with a local business which got fined during lockdown. This is in true blue Huntingdonshire. No sign of fatigue yet on this issue.
I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane
But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!
I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane
But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!
Ker-CHING, anyway
If it turns into this, put soft cheese into your ears immediately.
I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane
But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!
The ONE thing that has driven people mad - especially the PB Tories and right-leaning contributors - is all the rules, the restrictions, the "lockdowns". And at the heart of government, they just ignored all the rules they forced us to follow!
Cue HY with some polling that actually people support the PM letting his hairdown and actually wine time fridays may have encouraged some okey-doke which may have led to whatever Boris's 17th child is called and people live children actually.
Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.
However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.
Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.
NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
As has been evident for a while - the parties story has plenty of ammo, and is being very methodically released bit by bit. We've not seen the best year, and Johnson is cooked. I wonder what's in store for the Sundays?
Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.
However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.
Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.
NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
Maybe it’s a New England Puritan thing but my (by U.K. standards very moderate) drinking habits have me labelled as a borderline alcoholic by my Connecticut in-laws.
From the video it could easily be a plane flying across, obliquely.
If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
lol. The Daily Mail doing dodgy reporting??? Never!
The way the chemtrail curves does suggest a plane, but then the absence of wings is odd, but that can be explained by the distance and the low sunlight, and maybe pollution haze
FFS IT'S A PLANE WHY IS THE MAIL PRINTING THIS SENSATIONALIST CRAP
From the video it could easily be a plane flying across, obliquely.
If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
lol. The Daily Mail doing dodgy reporting??? Never!
The way the chemtrail curves does suggest a plane, but then the absence of wings is odd, but that can be explained by the distance and the low sunlight, and maybe pollution haze
FFS IT'S A PLANE WHY IS THE MAIL PRINTING THIS SENSATIONALIST CRAP
If it's a UFO, how come you didn't see it in Camden?
Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.
However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.
Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.
NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
Maybe it’s a New England Puritan thing but my (by U.K. standards very moderate) drinking habits have me labelled as a borderline alcoholic by my Connecticut in-laws.
Very US.
I have heard people describe the drinking of 4 Martinis as "frightening"
"Sources claimed that aides took turns on Fridays to visit the local Tesco Metro in Westminster with a wheely suitcase to fill up the 34-bottle capacity fridge."
Gives a whole new meaning to drinking on the job! 😂
Way back when, that is when yours truly was working directly on political campaigns, it was quite common to have cased of wine somewhere in the office.
However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.
Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.
NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
Maybe it’s a New England Puritan thing but my (by U.K. standards very moderate) drinking habits have me labelled as a borderline alcoholic by my Connecticut in-laws.
Puritans forsook the Nutmeg State long ago! Think what your experiencing is an American thing.
My own perception is that social drinking, in particular pub culture is significantly more common in UK than US. Though we may well redress the balance via non-social drinking?
So this is NOT the same as the Next Leader market, where an interim leader doesn't count. The Betfair rules correctly reflect the fact that, constitutionally, there's no such thing as an interim PM, just a PM. If Boris stands down in a hurry, then there's a possibility we might need an temporary PM while the Conservative Party chooses a new leader. There's a good chance that would be current Deputy PM Raab, in which you win. You might also win by him becoming next leader; that's not likely, but better than 40 to 1 odds ain't bad even without the temporary PM bonus.
With other bookies, rules may be different.
DYOR, this is not advice, etc etc.
I wondered what had happened to the market. I've been doing clips of this at 60 for the same reasons as you.
Boris strikes me as exactly the sort of person who might throw his seal of office out the pram even before the letters go in. You could even argue he couldn't continue in office if he is found to have broken his own laws.
I think Raab is not a serious candidate for the permanent job so the Queen would have an obvious uncontroversial short notice choice.
I'd say the real value if this is closer to 10.
Betfair have defined their market tightly enough so that even they can't prevaricate. I reckon...
From the video it could easily be a plane flying across, obliquely.
If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
lol. The Daily Mail doing dodgy reporting??? Never!
The way the chemtrail curves does suggest a plane, but then the absence of wings is odd, but that can be explained by the distance and the low sunlight, and maybe pollution haze
FFS IT'S A PLANE WHY IS THE MAIL PRINTING THIS SENSATIONALIST CRAP
Lying isn't the problem here. People complain that all politicians are liars, and lying is part of Johnsons style, somehow he turns it in to a positive. The problem is with the egregious lockdown breaches on the part of the people making the rules, whilst everyone else was following the rules and suffering for it. This is what will ultimately ruin Johnson, it isn't just business as usual.
James Forsyth points out that it is not just the Conservative MPs but also the local associations that can put pressure on the PM.
There is also a device by which 65 associations can force a special conference to vote on the leader's future. The vote is non-binding but would make the position of any leader who lost it untenable. The threat of such a vote was one of the things that led to Theresa May resigning.
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However, believe providing pub crawl tips for intergalactic invaders is definitely a first!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
But the daily "revelations" are beginning to get boring. There needs to be a new angle IMO.
The police side of this could be one such angle? What were the police doing while all these parties were going on? Did they turn a blind eye? Did they join in?
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EXCLUSIVE: No 10 staff held ‘wine-time Fridays’ throughout pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.
Sources say PM encouraged aides to "let off steam" despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.
For some people in the UK that is a mornings supply.
Story arrives in my Whatsapp from a friend at about 4.40pm, it is INTERNATIONAL NEWS in the Daily Mail 3 hours later
Nice work, if I say so myself
🔴EXCLUSIVE: The former head of the government unit responsible for drawing up Covid-19 restrictions was given a “boozy” leaving party just days before Christmas, it can be disclosed.
Read more: https://t.co/nqMG9vjlyG
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🍾 staff bought a £142 fridge to store wine, Prosecco & beer
🧳aides visited local Tesco metro with wheely suitcase to stock 34-bottle capacity fridge
🛳️ mostly press office but military adviser now commanding UK's largest warship also turned up
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PM attended “handful” of the gatherings when indoor socialising banned - but witnessed more.
“He would come in and say ‘Hello everyone, had a hard week? Letting off some steam? Oh great’.
“The idea he didn’t know there were drinks is total nonsense."
The Tory councillors they’d sacrifice by playing it long are no more a consideration than the Downing Street staff being listed for special measures.
Plus likelihood of more you-know-what hitting the fan . . .
https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1482080975358242825?s=21
One elected 2019: "Last night I was getting emails into my inbox every minute from Tory activists & Tory voters. Out of 250 emails I received yesterday, only 5 said leave Boris Johnson alone. The rest were saying his time is up."
https://twitter.com/ionewells/status/1482081537634013188
I can't tell what that is because, frankly, the quality is very poor, but it'll be one of those things.
Just think: if it was TEN TIMES the size of a jet, flying over London, would there be one video, or would there be a thousand.
It is over.
By Monday?
What else have you got?
This is another example of how much better off we’d be with PR. In the absence of an “anyone but labour” note the Tories would have plunged to single figures this week. And it would have benefited REFUK, the Greens, the SDP, the Lib Dems and no doubt new parties like the one nation conservatives or the libertarian party as well as Labour.
Chris Philp tries to defend.
Audience furious.
https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1482084640945061899
One of the great natural wonders of the great Granite State of New Hampshire (mottos: "Live Free or Die" and "Why Do You Want to be President") was the famous Old Man of the Mountain. A rock outcropping so iconic that it was chosen for the NH state quarter struck by US Mint.
Until the sad day that it collapsed suddenly due to slow but inexorable erosion over tip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain
Drip, drip, drip, drip . . . crack . . . boom!
Johnson will not survive this weekend. I have changed my mind.
https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1482085520478019588
The funny thing is that, having slunk away, he has always managed to charm his way into something better.
What the hell does he do next?
Completely suitcased I suspect
I am happy to be persuaded, but just saying "it's a plane" does not convince me. It doesn't look or behave like any plane
But if there is a known optical illusion that can make an ascending plane appear to do this, when viewed laterally from a distant window, then fair enough!
Ker-CHING, anyway
I’m saying this as a friend.
Lab 41% +3
Con 27% -3
Lib Dem 11% +1
Green 8% -2
Reform 5% -2
Changes since 14-15 Dec https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208
Did everyone else get the video of the other UFO near the coast. Clearly a big balloon the shape of an animal. Difficult to tell but a bit like a pig.
If you are the mentioned-in-passing second witness, that’s dodgy reporting!
Epic fail. This is brilliant!
The ONE thing that has driven people mad - especially the PB Tories and right-leaning contributors - is all the rules, the restrictions, the "lockdowns". And at the heart of government, they just ignored all the rules they forced us to follow!
Cue HY with some polling that actually people support the PM letting his hairdown and actually wine time fridays may have encouraged some okey-doke which may have led to whatever Boris's 17th child is called and people live children actually.
However, this was NOT for "drinks parties" or any other consumption by staff. Instead, it was for deployment at campaign fundraisers.
Every once and a while there might be a six-pack of beer around, but generally any drinking of alcohol in the office was frowned upon, mainly because it might make a bad impression on volunteers, media and other visitors.
NOT a good look and risky to boot, at least in OUR line of work. Pretty obviously one would think.
CON 27% -18 (from GE2019)
LAB 41% +8
LIB 11% -1
Reform 5% +3
Green 8% +5
2,128 online respondents on 13 January 2022.
Find Out Now/Electoral Calculus
https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1482079893919838208
I doubt he will make the end of the weekend now.
Bye.
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A fridge too far...
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This is quite insulting to dogs.
They understand loyalty, not throwing people under the bus.
We have a leadership contest within a month imho.
Stand by your bets kids.
The way the chemtrail curves does suggest a plane, but then the absence of wings is odd, but that can be explained by the distance and the low sunlight, and maybe pollution haze
FFS IT'S A PLANE WHY IS THE MAIL PRINTING THIS SENSATIONALIST CRAP
I have heard people describe the drinking of 4 Martinis as "frightening"
Its very fortunate that Dishy Rishi doesn't live in Downing Street.
Mirror
My own perception is that social drinking, in particular pub culture is significantly more common in UK than US. Though we may well redress the balance via non-social drinking?
And do NOT get me started on Ireland!
There is no way I think that Johnson can be standing at the despatch box next Wed for PMQs.
The Raab discussion earlier just got interesting.
Haha, 'Wine Time Fridays' was put into some of their calendars.
Boris strikes me as exactly the sort of person who might throw his seal of office out the pram even before the letters go in. You could even argue he couldn't continue in office if he is found to have broken his own laws.
I think Raab is not a serious candidate for the permanent job so the Queen would have an obvious uncontroversial short notice choice.
I'd say the real value if this is closer to 10.
Betfair have defined their market tightly enough so that even they can't prevaricate. I reckon...
Dominic Cummings, not a man you want as an enemy
People complain that all politicians are liars, and lying is part of Johnsons style, somehow he turns it in to a positive.
The problem is with the egregious lockdown breaches on the part of the people making the rules, whilst everyone else was following the rules and suffering for it. This is what will ultimately ruin Johnson, it isn't just business as usual.
There is also a device by which 65 associations can force a special conference to vote on the leader's future. The vote is non-binding but would make the position of any leader who lost it untenable. The threat of such a vote was one of the things that led to Theresa May resigning.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-tory-grassroots-are-putting-pressure-on-boris-johnson