I've just been Googling "Sadiq Khan" to see what he is actually *doing*
Not much. But a few things. eg He is doing THIS
"Sadiq Khan has unveiled £25,000 grants to help people change street names as part of a diversity campaign launched following Black Lives Matter protests.
"The Mayor of London has announced a £1 million fund that will be shared out among community groups, including those wishing to campaign to alter potentially offensive road names.
"Grants of up to £25,000 will support groups through all aspects of the process of changing street names, which could include enlisting consultants and compensating residents.
"The Untold Stories fund is part of the Commission for Diversity in the Public Realm, which was established following Black Lives Matter protests to diversify artwork and statuary that came under scrutiny for commemorating figures linked to empire and slavery."
Utterly pointless Woke bullshit, which also wastes money. Brilliant
"London mayor Sadiq Khan has urged the government to make face coverings mandatory on public transport as the UK continues to average more than 40,000 confirmed coronavirus cases a day for over a week."
He wants us all to mask up again. That's an inspired and innovative policy. Who saw that coming?
He's just extended the ULEZ zone which at a stroke has stopped me gadding around in my big polluting Merc. Whilst I'm not his greatest fan, eg he comes over to me as a careerist, and as I say he's making me walk everywhere, it has to be noted that much of the more visceral dislike of him is driven by him being Muslim. Not you, of course, but it's undeniably in the mix. Which is disappointing to see.
It is deniably in the mix. He’s just crap.
The only person to bring up his Muslim-ness was the equally crap Zac Goldsmith.
So iyo there are hardly any people whose dislike of him is driven by anti-Muslim prejudice? I think that's an absurdly optimistic notion. Please note I'm not in any way implying that any particular person who thinks he's rubbish is being influenced by this. It's not a smear against anybody to point out that prejudice is in the mix. Neither is it to say he isn't rubbish or some 'lefty comfort blanket' against something or other. It's just a factual comment.
implying that any particular person who thinks he's rubbish is being influenced by this But if you're thinking it, I am too. I doubt we'd be the only ones.
Ah but hang on. Take gardenwalker for eg, I am totally NOT thinking this. I must have read 1000 of his posts and not a trace of anti-muslim prejudice. Not even thinking it about leon where there has been fruitiness sometimes. Tbh it's more about where you see the quite wild-eyed stuff said about him. I think he's testified about it. He gets a lot. There, you have racism rearing its head, no question. What you also get is the slightly brighter and cagey type of racist who keeps a grip on what they say and stays carefully deniable. You know the type.
Ah yes. The people you "just know" are racist, but haven't actually done anything racist.
Bit like the witches. If I wasn't out, 24/7, burning them...
LOL this is the bad old kini.
As I noted several months ago in a post when he was flinging around accusations of racism (amended for his posts today):
"What you have to remember is that because @kinabalu for some unknown reason is very insecure he is invested in belittling views of nationality and what it means to be British and how one should react to people who are not white working class.
He does this because as a white working class lad made good (very good) and now moved away from his roots, he is confused about what he is supposed to think about these things. He feels he should condemn anyone who even mentions nationality or religion but has no views himself on them. He literally has no idea how to approach the idea of criticising someone who is not an "easy" target (ie WWC).
And hence when he bumps into people, like @Leon for example, someone he believes he is far more successful and intelligent than, but someone who is far more confident in their own opinions on such to him delicate and taboo subjects, he has literally no answer."
Holds as true today as it always has done.
Nice couch you have, Topping. Trouble is, I almost nodded off.
Same time next week?
Damn unsolicited diagnoses! He’ll be devising a scoring system to rank people next
Ah, I sense a reference to my simple yet rather sophisticated 'Class Indicator' test that you, almost alone on here, refused to take. And I could never understand why. Still, no point revisiting. The past is another country.
Doing those kind of tests then broadcasting the results is a kind of needy vanity that I’d like to avoid. Not that I always do I suppose
No clue why you're seeing it this way. 'Class' comes up a lot on here and I designed something neat to clarify and assist the discussions. Nothing untoward about it at all. As you'd know if you hadn't refused to co-operate.
I want the Class test! Fire at will soldier.
No need to test you. The result is in.
I've made it pretty clear that I'm a DE.
Is that what the test says?
Yep, a 4 having rounded up. One of the clearer cut ones.
Politico.com - Sunu-no: Top GOP recruit won't run for Senate New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu said Tuesday he will seek reelection, denying Republicans their top recruit of the 2022 election cycle.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
quite so. Could be any of the Aberdonians in the Cabinet.
Do you know what I think has been the biggest change in politics in recent years? The fact that the left have become so much more censorious and authoritarian than they used to be. 20 or 30 years ago they were significantly less so than people from other parties; now they're probably more so. For instance, when you hear someone calling for a long prison sentence these days, they're almost as likely to be from the left as the right.
I think this is right, up to a point. I think that if you look at opinion surveys you will still find that people on the left are more libertarian than those on the right. But I think you are right that there has been a rise in authoritarianism on the left. It's probably exaggerated by e.g. Twitter. I think in part it is a generational thing, where millenials tend to be quite authoritarian, maybe because they have grown up in a more permissive environment and so haven't had to push back against people telling them what they can and can't do. Incidentally I suspect that millenials will become very right wing like baby boomers have as they age, while gen x will remain instinctively liberal but apathetic. Millenials have the same "it's all about me" attitude as the baby boomers. And they will be able to afford a house eventually.
You're either self-damning or older than I thought - I'm a millenial and I'm almost 40. The youngest millenials are ~25. Do you really think that group is authoritarian? Gen Z maybe (kids today...)
(I'd always assumed I was Gen X until someone on here posted the definitions)
I'd always assume I was post-boomer. But apparently I am not.
Do you still like to think "Gen X will continue to be a beacon of post-modern cynicism, pragmatic centrism and a bastion of gentle apathy"? Or slightly more boomer-sympathetic now?
I've had a lot more time for millenials since I discovered I was one!
There's TimT, and there's TimS. TimS is a late GenXer in his mid 40s living in SE London (but not the same person as OnlyLivingBoy) who considers GenX are beacons of post-modern cynicism. TimT appears to be an early GenXer or late boomer.
Fun fact: the name Tim fell off a cliff of popularity in the mid 90s, coinciding with the prominence of Harry Enfield's Tim Nice but Dim character.
My screen name here used to be "Timothy (likes zebras)".
For as long as I could remember I'd always gone as "Tim", but when I was 23 my mother made a point of telling me that she'd chosen the name Timothy for me and not Tim. I've been trying out Timothy instead, but people will always ask if they can call me Tim, and I don't really care.
My family only call me Timothy when they are annoyed with me. And Martin Timothy when they are really, really annoyed.
Actually my Dad only ever users Timothy when he is annoyed at me. My theory is that a three-syllable name is ideal for expressing annoyance as you can build up to a higher pitch of emphasis for the final syllable.
I didn't realise this until after I chose a two-syllable name for my daughter though.
Our daughter's name is monosyllabic. Most unsatisfactory ...
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
quite so. Could be any of the Aberdonians in the Cabinet.
But with theirs on the way up and ours on the way down.
Thank goodness we resisted the siren call to use masks and other NPIs etc during the summer and autumn.
Theirs have been rising and ours have been falling is fairer. If you want to make predictions about where case numbers are going, that's your business. I won't follow you there.
All you need to remember is that the high number of Covid cases and deaths in the UK is completely immaterial; it's the end of lockdown that counts. But in countries other than the UK, high numbers of cases and deaths are a sign of doom and massive governmental incompetence. That's right, isn't it?
Re: other countries, high numbers of cases and deaths may be an indication of bad decision-making if accompanied by more draconian measures than us. Worst of both worlds sort of thing.
The UK has no legal restrictions currently so why are they rating the UK as a 41.2 at the moment?
Though I see its based upon the 'strictest sub-region' so that would include any restrictions by Holyrood etc as "UK".
I was wrong to use the word restrictions. It's wider than just prohibitions.
Additional: I've been digging into the data a little and it's troubling. The current value for face coverings in England is listed as "2". In Scotland it's "3". The levels are: 0- No policy 1- Recommended 2- Required in some specified shared/public spaces outside the home with other people present, or some situations when social distancing not possible 3- Required in all shared/public spaces outside the home with other people present or all situations when social distancing not possible
This seems wrong, to me. As I understand it, the mask level should be at most "1" for England.
I withdraw any point I have made about the stringency index until and unless I find out that this is my mistake and not theirs.
Face masks are required on public transport in England so that would fit with being a 2.
I opened your document but couldn't work out where to go for the "executive summary".
As for the link I sent before... I don't know what to say. There's plenty of stuff in there including a paper exploring the methodology and links to the data in a github repo. I'm sorry it's not in a more digestible format for you but sometimes it's worth digging a little deeper, as I've just been reminded by checking the face coverings score.
However I wonder what is the legal basis for this. It's notable they don't mention fines, so maybe this is a bit of a charade, and they actually don't have the power to enforce this?
The best characterisation of mask policy in England is "1 - Recommended"
They could do it via Conditions of Travel.
That's (or was) the approach for banning photography.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
quite so. Could be any of the Aberdonians in the Cabinet.
Sheep out of favour in Aberdeen nowadays then
Not many sheep in Westminster or Whitehall, though I expect there are some in the children's part of London Zoo.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
quite so. Could be any of the Aberdonians in the Cabinet.
Sheep out of favour in Aberdeen nowadays then
Hang on, Aberdeen is in Wales? I didn't realise that until today.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You just happened to.meet this person and he decided to tell you this unprompted.. ? Liklihood of this 0%
I am staying with a relative in Aberdeen who had some friends over. It's quite common I think you'll find!
I'll meet you for a pint in The White Cockade if you want.
Is that in Aberdeen? I don't know the place too well. I'm in Forest Drive. We went to Trump's golf course this morning.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
quite so. Could be any of the Aberdonians in the Cabinet.
Sheep out of favour in Aberdeen nowadays then
Hang on, Aberdeen is in Wales? I didn't realise that until today.
There's rather more sheep country in the Isles of Britain and Ireland than there is urban territory.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You just happened to.meet this person and he decided to tell you this unprompted.. ? Liklihood of this 0%
I am staying with a relative in Aberdeen who had some friends over. It's quite common I think you'll find!
I'll meet you for a pint in The White Cockade if you want.
Is that in Aberdeen? I don't know the place too well. I'm in Forest Drive. We went to Trump's golf course this morning.
I'm in the suburbs (kinda) - can you make it to a West End bar high roller?
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You just happened to.meet this person and he decided to tell you this unprompted.. ? Liklihood of this 0%
I am staying with a relative in Aberdeen who had some friends over. It's quite common I think you'll find!
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
Where I feel sorry for Michael Gove and others is that they have to be put in this situation in the first place. I know what its like in the closet, there is fear and shame and confusion. Add in being in the public spotlight and it must be hell.
Society still needs to evolve more so that people can be who they want to be without grief.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
Or even the actual student union.
Also, I think the whole point about the exhibition about 'entartete Kunst' was that it was most certainly not Aryan art, at least as Hitler and his ilk saw it.
Edit: could have been a separate exhibition on Aryan art. Bit confused by the BBC report.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You just happened to.meet this person and he decided to tell you this unprompted.. ? Liklihood of this 0%
I am staying with a relative in Aberdeen who had some friends over. It's quite common I think you'll find!
I'll meet you for a pint in The White Cockade if you want.
Is that in Aberdeen? I don't know the place too well. I'm in Forest Drive. We went to Trump's golf course this morning.
I'm in the suburbs (kinda) - can you make it to a West End bar high roller?
I only arrived last night so It wouldn't be polite to eat and then go out. But if she fancies it and message here later.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
Or even the actual student union.
Also, I think the whole point about the exhibition about 'entartete Kunst' was that it was most certainly not Aryan art, at least as Hitler and his ilk saw it.
Edit: could have been a separate exhibition on Aryan art. Bit confused by the BBC report.
Yes - it was acceptable-to-him-and-his-ilk art iirc.
I think you are talking about the Exhibition of Degenerate Art.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
On my one and only brief encounter with the Aberdonian I did think: hmm, maybe gay
But FWIW an old friend of mine knows him well and says Definitely not
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
This is exactly my view about voting Conservative.
Where I feel sorry for Michael Gove and others is that they have to be put in this situation in the first place. I know what its like in the closet, there is fear and shame and confusion. Add in being in the public spotlight and it must be hell.
Society still needs to evolve more so that people can be who they want to be without grief.
What is Gove? Oh, Brady don't hurt me Don't hurt me No more
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You just happened to.meet this person and he decided to tell you this unprompted.. ? Liklihood of this 0%
I am staying with a relative in Aberdeen who had some friends over. It's quite common I think you'll find!
I'll meet you for a pint in The White Cockade if you want.
Is that in Aberdeen? I don't know the place too well. I'm in Forest Drive. We went to Trump's golf course this morning.
I'm in the suburbs (kinda) - can you make it to a West End bar high roller?
I only arrived last night so It wouldn't be polite to eat and then go out. But if she fancies it and message here later.
Are you saying that you might be up for a west end bar Tonight? I've never met a PBer before (as far as I'm aware)...
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
On my one and only brief encounter with the Aberdonian I did think: hmm, maybe gay
But FWIW an old friend of mine knows him well and says Definitely not
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
On my one and only brief encounter with the Aberdonian I did think: hmm, maybe gay
But FWIW an old friend of mine knows him well and says Definitely not
DYOR, IANAL
Andrew Graham-Dixon was Aberdonian by birth or education? Wiki says not. So you must mean A. Hitler.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You don't approve of it but you are not homophobic?
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
Perhaps stretching the concept of prominent politician but Anneliese Dodds went to the same school as the alleged back passage storm trooper.
The iPhone is a cruel thing. It’s just told me that on this exact day, 2 years ago, I was in Ushuaia, Argentina. 3 years ago, same day, I was in soi 4, Sukhumvit, Bangkok. Four years ago: the bat infested mountains of Yunnan. Southern China
It is like I am forced to listen to an exultant boastful version of myself (yes yes, maybe the only version) as I gloat about how much better my life is, as compared to my life
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
I speak as one and yet I cannot answer.
Outside the Cambridge Union was where @YBarddCwsc once flour-bombed Norman Tebbit.
It may be that Andrew Graham-Dixon went to pay quiet homage.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
Yep it’s pathetic. Some people just need to grow up a bit and accept people as they are.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You don't approve of it but you are not homophobic?
I expect he objects to the hijacking of the innocent and useful word "gay" from his vocabulary.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
Perhaps stretching the concept of prominent politician but Anneliese Dodds went to the same school as the alleged back passage storm trooper.
Robert Gordon's? - Well that increases my exhaustive list of famous Aberdonians-
Anne Lennox The Shamen Michael Gove Tessa Jowell Annelise Dodds (?)
The iPhone is a cruel thing. It’s just told me that on this exact day, 2 years ago, I was in Ushuaia, Argentina. 3 years ago, same day, I was in soi 4, Sukhumvit, Bangkok. Four years ago: the bat infested mountains of Yunnan. Southern China
It is like I am forced to listen to an exultant boastful version of myself …
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You don't approve of it but you are not homophobic?
I remember a comedic piece years back which suggested homophobia was at times not a helpful term, as phobias are usually about a deep aversion to things, and there might be people who have a phobia about same sex acts, or some religious belief that it is inappropriate, or someone covering for their own urges etc. I'm not sure what other terminology would really be useful though, in practice. Motivation for the discrimination or mistreatment probably doesn't matter to the victim.
I don't really remember the details other than the concluding joke, which was about how the person making derogatory comments about gay people might be fighting their own suppressed desires and worthy of our sympathy, or they might just be a total dick.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
Invited Art Historian speaker for a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume, and a motion about Bad Taste?
He's also an Oxford Man, it seems. And has some profile - BBC programmes etc.
Isn't the news coverage just another potboiler in the culture wars?
We have not finished with the epidemic. The 5th wave has begun in Europe.
Macron btw..
My first message is an appeal to the 6 million of you who are not yet vaccinated: vaccinate yourself. To be able to live normally. To be free in a nation like France implies to be responsible and to show solidarity. I am counting on you. The booster campaign must be accelerated. From December 15, it will take the over 65s this reminder for the health pass to be valid.
We had relaxed our efforts, we must resume them. The vaccine is not enough. In this context of recovery, we must redouble our vigilance. All flexibilities will be postponed to keep the rules in force. We are currently conducting an essential reform of unemployment insurance: it will be necessary to have worked at least six months in the last two years to be able to be compensated."
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
This is exactly my view about voting Conservative.
I thought that was regarded more like a disease - disproportionately more likely among the old and vulnerable, and once you succumb to it its effects can linger for a long time.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
Perhaps stretching the concept of prominent politician but Anneliese Dodds went to the same school as the alleged back passage storm trooper.
Robert Gordon's? - Well that increases my exhaustive list of famous Aberdonians-
Anne Lennox The Shamen Michael Gove Tessa Jowell Annelise Dodds (?)
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
The iPhone is a cruel thing. It’s just told me that on this exact day, 2 years ago, I was in Ushuaia, Argentina. 3 years ago, same day, I was in soi 4, Sukhumvit, Bangkok. Four years ago: the bat infested mountains of Yunnan. Southern China
It is like I am forced to listen to an exultant boastful version of myself (yes yes, maybe the only version) as I gloat about how much better my life is, as compared to my life
Why not pop across to the Edinburgh Castle? See what's happening in there.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
I have once. I was rather flattered. I suggested my wife and children might not approve. He seemed like a nice chap.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
Invited Art Historian speaker for a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume, and a motion about Bad Taste?
And he went !!
For a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume
You mean, an audience of pimply Cambridge undergraduates in period costume.
What sane person would inflict that spectacle upon themselves?
I would rather be in a dark Aberdonian nightclub, roofied out of my mind, and dancing with a senior member of the cabinet.
The iPhone is a cruel thing. It’s just told me that on this exact day, 2 years ago, I was in Ushuaia, Argentina. 3 years ago, same day, I was in soi 4, Sukhumvit, Bangkok. Four years ago: the bat infested mountains of Yunnan. Southern China
It is like I am forced to listen to an exultant boastful version of myself (yes yes, maybe the only version) as I gloat about how much better my life is, as compared to my life
I don't think anybody reckons you're the only version.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
I speak as one and yet I cannot answer.
Outside the Cambridge Union was where @YBarddCwsc once flour-bombed Norman Tebbit.
It may be that Andrew Graham-Dixon went to pay quiet homage.
I was wrong, of course.
A waste of good flour.
Forget the punting and the may ball, that sounds like a genuine highlight.
But with theirs on the way up and ours on the way down.
Thank goodness we resisted the siren call to use masks and other NPIs etc during the summer and autumn.
Theirs have been rising and ours have been falling is fairer. If you want to make predictions about where case numbers are going, that's your business. I won't follow you there.
All you need to remember is that the high number of Covid cases and deaths in the UK is completely immaterial; it's the end of lockdown that counts. But in countries other than the UK, high numbers of cases and deaths are a sign of doom and massive governmental incompetence. That's right, isn't it?
Re: other countries, high numbers of cases and deaths may be an indication of bad decision-making if accompanied by more draconian measures than us. Worst of both worlds sort of thing.
The UK has no legal restrictions currently so why are they rating the UK as a 41.2 at the moment?
Though I see its based upon the 'strictest sub-region' so that would include any restrictions by Holyrood etc as "UK".
I was wrong to use the word restrictions. It's wider than just prohibitions.
Additional: I've been digging into the data a little and it's troubling. The current value for face coverings in England is listed as "2". In Scotland it's "3". The levels are: 0- No policy 1- Recommended 2- Required in some specified shared/public spaces outside the home with other people present, or some situations when social distancing not possible 3- Required in all shared/public spaces outside the home with other people present or all situations when social distancing not possible
This seems wrong, to me. As I understand it, the mask level should be at most "1" for England.
I withdraw any point I have made about the stringency index until and unless I find out that this is my mistake and not theirs.
Face masks are required on public transport in England so that would fit with being a 2.
I opened your document but couldn't work out where to go for the "executive summary".
Seems a lot in there.
No they're not.
Face masks are not legally required in public transport in England. TFL don't make the law.
I believe they are legally required in care homes and some other healthcare settings though.
They should be compulsory on the tube and enforced by the law rather than tfl's ire (no fault of theirs)
Why?
No they shouldn't. Just because TFL have overreached doesn't mean it should be the law.
Why? - The tube is a special case of ridiculously close contact in an unventilated space.
So what?
If people choose to wear a mask then, that's their choice. If they don't, ditto. That's the law as it is and as it should be.
The guidance to wear masks should be dropped.
It's one of the most likely places for infection. It's an easy line to draw too. Until the spring we should wear masks where we can and where it's sensible. It's really not so tough.
It really is.
Stopping infection isn't something we should be doing with NPIs. That's last year's policy.
We have PIs now. Its time to live with the fact that infections happen, not try to prevent them.
Good god. Work with what I've said rather than what you want to think I've said.
Did you say that they should be mandated by law to prevent infections?
The law shouldn't be seeking to prevent infections in the community. People should be getting vaccinated.
Yes I agree. However where there are obvious infection hotspots they should be enforced.
I imagine the tube could be higher than nighclubs in the potential risk. Nightclubs are open or they're not, and nothing at all you can do. With the tube there's everything you can do to reduce unfection.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
Well - has it ever been put on by a university student group?
The ADC is Cambridge probably puts on - what - two dozen plays a year. But most of them will contain three or four actors and will have minimal sets and production value. (This is student theatre.)
Big musicals just aren't that common in a student theatre environment. I'm pretty sure there's never been a production of Cats at the ADC, but that's not because of the political content of the work, it's because it's a bit big an undertaking.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
I have once. I was rather flattered. I suggested my wife and children might not approve. He seemed like a nice chap.
A guy I spent a fair bit of time with as a post doc at Leeds came out, and described his type as basically me. Turned out I’d been out on several dates without realising... Really nice guy, no idea where he is now.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
Invited Art Historian speaker for a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume, and a motion about Bad Taste?
And he went !!
For a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume
You mean, an audience of pimply Cambridge undergraduates in period costume.
What sane person would inflict that spectacle upon themselves?
I would rather be in a dark Aberdonian nightclub, roofied out of my mind, and dancing with a senior member of the cabinet.
That's very interesting. If you were an undergraduate prior to 1984 you have no business aping da yoof by going on about being "roofied;" if later, your flour-bombing of Tebbit has to be construed as an immensely witty and tasteful allusion to events in Brighton.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You don't approve of it but you are not homophobic?
I remember a comedic piece years back which suggested homophobia was at times not a helpful term, as phobias are usually about a deep aversion to things, and there might be people who have a phobia about same sex acts, or some religious belief that it is inappropriate, or someone covering for their own urges etc. I'm not sure what other terminology would really be useful though, in practice. Motivation for the discrimination or mistreatment probably doesn't matter to the victim.
I don't really remember the details other than the concluding joke, which was about how the person making derogatory comments about gay people might be fighting their own suppressed desires and worthy of our sympathy, or they might just be a total dick.
The irony is that Gove's predecessor Nick Hawkins was deselected when he left his wife for a Conservative councillor (female). There was more to the deselected than that. Conservative councillors were approached for their opinions by the press. Most gave very sensible replies, but one commented 'well at least he didn't leave his wife for a man'. Presumably that councillor will be somewhat peeved now.
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
It is an odd story. Why is a 61-year old mediocrity even attending a student debate?
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
Invited Art Historian speaker for a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume, and a motion about Bad Taste?
And he went !!
For a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume
You mean, an audience of pimply Cambridge undergraduates in period costume.
What sane person would inflict that spectacle upon themselves?
I would rather be in a dark Aberdonian nightclub, roofied out of my mind, and dancing with a senior member of the cabinet.
That's very interesting. If you were an undergraduate prior to 1984 you have no business aping da yoof by going on about being "roofied;" if later, your flour-bombing of Tebbit has to be construed as an immensely witty and tasteful allusion to events in Brighton.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
Perhaps stretching the concept of prominent politician but Anneliese Dodds went to the same school as the alleged back passage storm trooper.
Robert Gordon's? - Well that increases my exhaustive list of famous Aberdonians-
Anne Lennox The Shamen Michael Gove Tessa Jowell Annelise Dodds (?)
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
Yes, twice. I said no thank you, I'm not gay.
By contrast, my wife has been propositioned by unsavoury heterosexual men on hundreds of occasions, starting when she was about 13 years old.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
I have once. I was rather flattered. I suggested my wife and children might not approve. He seemed like a nice chap.
A guy I spent a fair bit of time with as a post doc at Leeds came out, and described his type as basically me. Turned out I’d been out on several dates without realising... Really nice guy, no idea where he is now.
I liked, but had to comment as that had me rolling around laughing.
But with theirs on the way up and ours on the way down.
Thank goodness we resisted the siren call to use masks and other NPIs etc during the summer and autumn.
Theirs have been rising and ours have been falling is fairer. If you want to make predictions about where case numbers are going, that's your business. I won't follow you there.
All you need to remember is that the high number of Covid cases and deaths in the UK is completely immaterial; it's the end of lockdown that counts. But in countries other than the UK, high numbers of cases and deaths are a sign of doom and massive governmental incompetence. That's right, isn't it?
Re: other countries, high numbers of cases and deaths may be an indication of bad decision-making if accompanied by more draconian measures than us. Worst of both worlds sort of thing.
The UK has no legal restrictions currently so why are they rating the UK as a 41.2 at the moment?
Though I see its based upon the 'strictest sub-region' so that would include any restrictions by Holyrood etc as "UK".
I was wrong to use the word restrictions. It's wider than just prohibitions.
Additional: I've been digging into the data a little and it's troubling. The current value for face coverings in England is listed as "2". In Scotland it's "3". The levels are: 0- No policy 1- Recommended 2- Required in some specified shared/public spaces outside the home with other people present, or some situations when social distancing not possible 3- Required in all shared/public spaces outside the home with other people present or all situations when social distancing not possible
This seems wrong, to me. As I understand it, the mask level should be at most "1" for England.
I withdraw any point I have made about the stringency index until and unless I find out that this is my mistake and not theirs.
Face masks are required on public transport in England so that would fit with being a 2.
I opened your document but couldn't work out where to go for the "executive summary".
Seems a lot in there.
No they're not.
Face masks are not legally required in public transport in England. TFL don't make the law.
I believe they are legally required in care homes and some other healthcare settings though.
They should be compulsory on the tube and enforced by the law rather than tfl's ire (no fault of theirs)
Why?
No they shouldn't. Just because TFL have overreached doesn't mean it should be the law.
Why? - The tube is a special case of ridiculously close contact in an unventilated space.
So what?
If people choose to wear a mask then, that's their choice. If they don't, ditto. That's the law as it is and as it should be.
The guidance to wear masks should be dropped.
It's one of the most likely places for infection. It's an easy line to draw too. Until the spring we should wear masks where we can and where it's sensible. It's really not so tough.
It really is.
Stopping infection isn't something we should be doing with NPIs. That's last year's policy.
We have PIs now. Its time to live with the fact that infections happen, not try to prevent them.
Good god. Work with what I've said rather than what you want to think I've said.
Did you say that they should be mandated by law to prevent infections?
The law shouldn't be seeking to prevent infections in the community. People should be getting vaccinated.
Yes I agree. However where there are obvious infection hotspots they should be enforced.
I imagine the tube could be higher than nighclubs in the potential risk. Nightclubs are open or they're not, and nothing at all you can do. With the tube there's everything you can do to reduce unfection.
Why should it be enforced by law? For what reason?
It people don't want to take chances they can avoid risky areas. That's their choice. But we shouldn't have the state making our choices for us.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
Perhaps stretching the concept of prominent politician but Anneliese Dodds went to the same school as the alleged back passage storm trooper.
Robert Gordon's? - Well that increases my exhaustive list of famous Aberdonians-
Anne Lennox The Shamen Michael Gove Tessa Jowell Annelise Dodds (?)
There's an extraordinarily overwrought piece in the Atlantic about a journalist's experience of testing positive for covid. It's written as if he had a near death experience but then says he's "probably been sicker 15 times as an adult".
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You don't approve of it but you are not homophobic?
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
Well - has it ever been put on by a university student group?
The ADC is Cambridge probably puts on - what - two dozen plays a year. But most of them will contain three or four actors and will have minimal sets and production value. (This is student theatre.)
Big musicals just aren't that common in a student theatre environment. I'm pretty sure there's never been a production of Cats at the ADC, but that's not because of the political content of the work, it's because it's a bit big an undertaking.
It doesn't seem to be just a stripping away of a letter every time though. A syllable every time? To my eye there's a step which doesn't have a missing syllable, but that'd be consistent with my just not knowing.
There must be meaning in these wors though, otherwise why bother.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
Yes, twice. I said no thank you, I'm not gay.
By contrast, my wife has been propositioned by unsavoury heterosexual men on hundreds of occasions, starting when she was about 13 years old.
How many time has she been propositioned by savoury heterosexual men, of the kind you might find on this site?
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
Yes, twice. I said no thank you, I'm not gay.
By contrast, my wife has been propositioned by unsavoury heterosexual men on hundreds of occasions, starting when she was about 13 years old.
Which is exactly why any man who chooses to do so should be allowed to put a skirt on and nip into the ladies.
There's an extraordinarily overwrought piece in the Atlantic about a journalist's experience of testing positive for covid. It's written as if he had a near death experience but then says he's "probably been sicker 15 times as an adult".
There's an extraordinarily overwrought piece in the Atlantic about a journalist's experience of testing positive for covid. It's written as if he had a near death experience but then says he's "probably been sicker 15 times as an adult".
It doesn't seem to be just a stripping away of a letter every time though. A syllable every time? To my eye there's a step which doesn't have a missing syllable, but that'd be consistent with my just not knowing.
There must be meaning in these wors though, otherwise why bother.
I think the last word above the abracadabra triangle is depellendo, which is the gerund of depellere, to expel; so 'to be expelled', but I can't work out the word before it.
The iPhone is a cruel thing. It’s just told me that on this exact day, 2 years ago, I was in Ushuaia, Argentina. 3 years ago, same day, I was in soi 4, Sukhumvit, Bangkok. Four years ago: the bat infested mountains of Yunnan. Southern China
It is like I am forced to listen to an exultant boastful version of myself (yes yes, maybe the only version) as I gloat about how much better my life is, as compared to my life
I’m trying to remember anything interesting about Soi 4, Sukhumvit.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
You can only be referncing Gove
The school doesn't have to be Aberdeen. Quite a lot of people in Aberdeen were educated elsewhere (labour mobility, or being sent to boarding school).
The only other prominent Aberdonian politician is Theresa (unfortnately I can't remember the surname)
RIP Theresa
You're not getting my point - which is that the minister could have been living and/or educated somewhere completely different from Aberdeen.
Yeah I was hoping someone could give me the surname-
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
Tessa Jowell was gay? Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
No but she went to private school in Aberdeen in the same way Gove did.
Perhaps stretching the concept of prominent politician but Anneliese Dodds went to the same school as the alleged back passage storm trooper.
Robert Gordon's? - Well that increases my exhaustive list of famous Aberdonians-
Anne Lennox The Shamen Michael Gove Tessa Jowell Annelise Dodds (?)
Catching up on the Cambridge Union ("Defending Free Debate") mess, banning someone for performing Hitler setting up his Arian art exhibition as evidence of the existence of bad taste, who has now been banned for life (if it sticks) for being 'offensive'.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Cambridge Union Society is not part of the University.
I know.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
Well - has it ever been put on by a university student group?
The ADC is Cambridge probably puts on - what - two dozen plays a year. But most of them will contain three or four actors and will have minimal sets and production value. (This is student theatre.)
Big musicals just aren't that common in a student theatre environment. I'm pretty sure there's never been a production of Cats at the ADC, but that's not because of the political content of the work, it's because it's a bit big an undertaking.
Big school productions are much more common that big University ones, no? They fit the "everyone gets a role" that you need at school. While at University, the number of people who want tiny supporting roles in student productions is going to be limited.
It doesn't seem to be just a stripping away of a letter every time though. A syllable every time? To my eye there's a step which doesn't have a missing syllable, but that'd be consistent with my just not knowing.
There must be meaning in these wors though, otherwise why bother.
I think the last word above the abracadabra triangle is depellendo, which is the gerund of depellere, to expel; so 'to be expelled', but I can't work out the word before it.
I'm in Aberdeen at the moment and came across someone who went to school with a prominent member of the cabinet. He expressed surprise (and I quote) "that it was so little known he was a back passage storm trooper"
I was just taken by the expression which I haven't heard before. It would be tasteless to name names.
Without wishing to sound "woke", I am always slightly amused at the attempts at witty derogatory terminology for gay people by the rabidly homophobic. It merely highlights their own very vanilla, dull sex lives.
I doubt for most that male to male sex is an addition to a vanilla sex life as you put it. You should remember that people who do not approve of it are not necessarily homophobic. Its a side of life that just passes us by. Each to their own but no thank you.
You can say no thank you without judging those who do enjoy it, though.
Sometimes no thank-you isnt enough. Have you ever been propositioned?
Yes, twice. I said no thank you, I'm not gay.
By contrast, my wife has been propositioned by unsavoury heterosexual men on hundreds of occasions, starting when she was about 13 years old.
How many time has she been propositioned by savoury heterosexual men, of the kind you might find on this site?
Quite a few, but not sure that there are that many on this site (apart from me, of course). It's a bit of a lads banter club on here, and she's not keen on laddish blokes.
But I was trying to make a serious point that predatory gay men are hugely insignificant when compared to predatory heterosexual men, who ensure that attractive women face a considerable, even daily, amount of unwanted attention.
Why should it be enforced by law? For what reason?
It people don't want to take chances they can avoid risky areas. That's their choice. But we shouldn't have the state making our choices for us.
I'm all for personal responsibility but unfortunately we all too often have personal irresponsibility. Individuals who are clearly sick or unwell travelling round and infecting other people.
Why is this? Are they callous uncaring individuals? Possibly or could it be they have the kind of employment where if they don't work they don't get paid and they can't afford to miss a day's pay as they have children to feed or rent to pay?
Perhaps they have the kind of employment where if they don't report for work it's not a question of not being paid - it's a question of being sacked.
It doesn't seem to be just a stripping away of a letter every time though. A syllable every time? To my eye there's a step which doesn't have a missing syllable, but that'd be consistent with my just not knowing.
There must be meaning in these wors though, otherwise why bother.
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Politico.com - Sunu-no: Top GOP recruit won't run for Senate
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu said Tuesday he will seek reelection, denying Republicans their top recruit of the 2022 election cycle.
That's (or was) the approach for banning photography.
RIP Theresa
It just came to me! Tessa Jowell
That's how Chirac dodged it for (presumably) 14 years.
Euro Twitter is still arguing that jail sentences for 2 from 3 shows that UK is more corrupt because we haven't locked up any PMs.
Bloody hell, she kept that quiet.
When did Cambridge Uni last put The Producers on?
Of course Roger if you say so.
But when was it last put on in the Uni environment; I'm just interested how the twit-demographic would (or did) react.
Society still needs to evolve more so that people can be who they want to be without grief.
Also, I think the whole point about the exhibition about 'entartete Kunst' was that it was most certainly not Aryan art, at least as Hitler and his ilk saw it.
Edit: could have been a separate exhibition on Aryan art. Bit confused by the BBC report.
I think you are talking about the Exhibition of Degenerate Art.
But FWIW an old friend of mine knows him well and says Definitely not
DYOR, IANAL
And even if a 61-year old mediocrity really has nothing better to do of an evening, why does he travel from his home in Sussex to go to the Cambridge Union to do a Hitler impersonation?
Deep questions, no?
Oh, Brady don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
No more
It is like I am forced to listen to an exultant boastful version of myself (yes yes, maybe the only version) as I gloat about how much better my life is, as compared to my life
It may be that Andrew Graham-Dixon went to pay quiet homage.
I was wrong, of course.
A waste of good flour.
Anne Lennox
The Shamen
Michael Gove
Tessa Jowell
Annelise Dodds (?)
Sympathy.
I don't really remember the details other than the concluding joke, which was about how the person making derogatory comments about gay people might be fighting their own suppressed desires and worthy of our sympathy, or they might just be a total dick.
He's also an Oxford Man, it seems. And has some profile - BBC programmes etc.
Isn't the news coverage just another potboiler in the culture wars?
My first message is an appeal to the 6 million of you who are not yet vaccinated: vaccinate yourself. To be able to live normally. To be free in a nation like France implies to be responsible and to show solidarity. I am counting on you.
The booster campaign must be accelerated. From December 15, it will take the over 65s this reminder for the health pass to be valid.
We had relaxed our efforts, we must resume them. The vaccine is not enough. In this context of recovery, we must redouble our vigilance. All flexibilities will be postponed to keep the rules in force. We are currently conducting an essential reform of unemployment insurance: it will be necessary to have worked at least six months in the last two years to be able to be compensated."
Whatever happened to @Byronic ?
For a "Good Old Days" type debate with the audience in period costume
You mean, an audience of pimply Cambridge undergraduates in period costume.
What sane person would inflict that spectacle upon themselves?
I would rather be in a dark Aberdonian nightclub, roofied out of my mind, and dancing with a senior member of the cabinet.
I imagine the tube could be higher than nighclubs in the potential risk. Nightclubs are open or they're not, and nothing at all you can do. With the tube there's everything you can do to reduce unfection.
The ADC is Cambridge probably puts on - what - two dozen plays a year. But most of them will contain three or four actors and will have minimal sets and production value. (This is student theatre.)
Big musicals just aren't that common in a student theatre environment. I'm pretty sure there's never been a production of Cats at the ADC, but that's not because of the political content of the work, it's because it's a bit big an undertaking.
The first recorded use of ABRACADABRA. In a malaria cure. It’s in the bottom triangle and is reduced by a letter at a time, thus killing off the disease. Foolproof.
https://twitter.com/Anna_Mazz/status/1458153852453146626
Do you police the language?
PE in the pool under Mr C*nto F*****er was akin to swimming the Hellespont.
By contrast, my wife has been propositioned by unsavoury heterosexual men on hundreds of occasions, starting when she was about 13 years old.
It people don't want to take chances they can avoid risky areas. That's their choice. But we shouldn't have the state making our choices for us.
More importantly-
Is Roger really in Aberdeen?
Should I meet him for a pint?
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/the-worlds-only-normal-until-you-test-positive/620653/
https://www.etoncollege.com/news-and-diary/school-news/broadway-comes-to-eton/
There must be meaning in these wors though, otherwise why bother.
So, to prove my gayness, I have to fuck Paris Lees up the ass??
TL;DR; person gets not very sick with Covid but treats it like having the plague. Oh yes, and he has a nonbinary eight year old.
What's this 'proving gayness' thing?
It’s arse.
Edit to add: we will also need to see videos of you not being aroused by heterosexual porn.
Should you find out more do let me know.
But I was trying to make a serious point that predatory gay men are hugely insignificant when compared to predatory heterosexual men, who ensure that attractive women face a considerable, even daily, amount of unwanted attention.
PS-
I'm a man and don't fancy black women
Why is this? Are they callous uncaring individuals? Possibly or could it be they have the kind of employment where if they don't work they don't get paid and they can't afford to miss a day's pay as they have children to feed or rent to pay?
Perhaps they have the kind of employment where if they don't report for work it's not a question of not being paid - it's a question of being sacked.