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She's just an idiot then. Thanks for confirmingisam said:
It’s not racist to say a black man looks like another black man, but Chuka Umunna doesn’t look anything like Chris Eubank.kle4 said:
I love that its a tweet 'has emerged', like someone went digging in an ancient archive rather than just looked back over her twitter feed.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1438180664474472460
What a lovely woman!0 -
The Rt Hon Sajid Javid MP @SajidJavid remains Secretary of State for Health and Social Care @DHSCgovuk
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Not just that, but the pay rises are coming from the bottom.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while labour will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
For many years, the minimum wage was a maximum for many jobs - but now we are seeing genuine increases for the poorest workers, as firms compete to hire people, rather than people competing to be hired by firms.3 -
IMV the question goes deeper: at this level, what does it matter *what* someone looks like? She's not trying to buy a car from someone with a coat that has a faint whiff of goat.isam said:
It’s not racist to say a black man looks like another black man, but Chuka Umunna doesn’t look anything like Chris Eubank.kle4 said:
I love that its a tweet 'has emerged', like someone went digging in an ancient archive rather than just looked back over her twitter feed.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1438180664474472460
What a lovely woman!0 -
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
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You have no basis at all for making such a malign accusation. I have taken a screenshot .IshmaelZ said:
If you say so, ducky.justin124 said:
That is defammatory in that it is totally false.IshmaelZ said:
God does not hate you for being gay, and it was unkind of the other boys to point at your penis in the showers and laugh. Now just stop it.justin124 said:
Certainly a wellknown adultress!rottenborough said:
You do understand that that bloke in the bible who says Thank God I am not as other men are is not presented as a positive role model, do you?0 -
Top trolling 😟CarlottaVance said:No word from Labour on whether Angela Rayner will become shadow deputy prime minister
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Yes it will increase inflation, but rising wages from a low base is to be welcomedCarnyx said:
But it also raises prices, remember. Which cuts in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and of course it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about0 -
Was it a dick pic?justin124 said:
You have no basis at all for making such a malign accusation. I have taken a screenshot .IshmaelZ said:
If you say so, ducky.justin124 said:
That is defammatory in that it is totally false.IshmaelZ said:
God does not hate you for being gay, and it was unkind of the other boys to point at your penis in the showers and laugh. Now just stop it.justin124 said:
Certainly a wellknown adultress!rottenborough said:
You do understand that that bloke in the bible who says Thank God I am not as other men are is not presented as a positive role model, do you?0 -
Yes it is the Northern Line extension. One day I hope it will also run to Clapham Junction.rcs1000 said:0 -
I presume the social care levy vote in advance of the Autumn CSR was to keep everyone in line for fear of this reshuffle.0
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On the same basis I can suggest you are a paedophile.IshmaelZ said:
Was it a dick pic?justin124 said:
You have no basis at all for making such a malign accusation. I have taken a screenshot .IshmaelZ said:
If you say so, ducky.justin124 said:
That is defammatory in that it is totally false.IshmaelZ said:
God does not hate you for being gay, and it was unkind of the other boys to point at your penis in the showers and laugh. Now just stop it.justin124 said:
Certainly a wellknown adultress!rottenborough said:
You do understand that that bloke in the bible who says Thank God I am not as other men are is not presented as a positive role model, do you?0 -
And price ourselves out of global markets, destroying jobs in the process. We can't all make a living driving things round for each other.Carnyx said:
But it also raises prices, remember. Which cuts in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and of course it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
But if the government can't bribe us with government money, it has to try bribing us with our own money...0 -
There will be some fulsome support for this eye catching appointment in the express and mail.MattW said:
Given ND's past spats there will be a whole archive somewhere.kle4 said:
I love that its a tweet 'has emerged', like someone went digging in an ancient archive rather than just looked back over her twitter feed.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1438180664474472460
What a lovely woman!
And her sunbathing topless in the Sun.
Reminds me a bit of when Major put Edwina into a key position.
Nah, forget I mentioned that bit.0 -
Russell T Davies won an NTA gong this week (for It's a Sin). David Tennant is a seriously good actor, arguably now our best television actor.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.1 -
The problem with the Tories, is eventually they run out of moneyStuartinromford said:
And price ourselves out of global markets, destroying jobs in the process. We can't all make a living driving things round for each other.Carnyx said:
But it also raises prices, remember. Which cuts in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and of course it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
But if the government can't bribe us with government money, it has to try bribing us with our own money...0 -
I thought that was already common knowledge.justin124 said:
On the same basis I can suggest you are a paedophile.IshmaelZ said:
Was it a dick pic?justin124 said:
You have no basis at all for making such a malign accusation. I have taken a screenshot .IshmaelZ said:
If you say so, ducky.justin124 said:
That is defammatory in that it is totally false.IshmaelZ said:
God does not hate you for being gay, and it was unkind of the other boys to point at your penis in the showers and laugh. Now just stop it.justin124 said:
Certainly a wellknown adultress!rottenborough said:
You do understand that that bloke in the bible who says Thank God I am not as other men are is not presented as a positive role model, do you?0 -
I actually think she is under rated.MaxPB said:
Mega leaver if memory serves me correctly.Big_G_NorthWales said:Anne Marie Trevelyan to Trade
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I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public0
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Indeed so - only one Government since World War 2 has bequeathed a Budget Surplus to its successor - Wilson's Labour Government in 1970.CorrectHorseBattery said:
The problem with the Tories, is eventually they run out of moneyStuartinromford said:
And price ourselves out of global markets, destroying jobs in the process. We can't all make a living driving things round for each other.Carnyx said:
But it also raises prices, remember. Which cuts in different ways.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and of course it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
But if the government can't bribe us with government money, it has to try bribing us with our own money...0 -
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.1 -
Apple as well as Google iirc, and some posh flats. I've lost my mole inside Google so have no inside information to share.Andy_JS said:
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
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She can’t be that badly regarded, surelygealbhan said:
I actually think she is under rated.MaxPB said:
Mega leaver if memory serves me correctly.Big_G_NorthWales said:Anne Marie Trevelyan to Trade
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I doubt they care too much.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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Also good for the Treasury as:Sandpit said:
Not just that, but the pay rises are coming from the bottom.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while labour will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
For many years, the minimum wage was a maximum for many jobs - but now we are seeing genuine increases for the poorest workers, as firms compete to hire people, rather than people competing to be hired by firms.
(1) Higher wages mean more income tax and NI payments
(2) Higher wages potentially means lower tax credit payments
Partially offset by higher wages means lower corporate profits which means lower corporation tax. However, as firms like Amazon do not pay taxes anyway, not much impact there.
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The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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I’m sceptical about this.Big_G_NorthWales said:Roger said:Even Tim Montgomerie thinks Liz Truss built up her non deal with Australia for a bunch of headlines. After Brexit and Afghanistan do we really need a self publicising fantacist?
Better get used to itRoger said:Even Tim Montgomerie thinks Liz Truss built up her non deal with Australia for a bunch of headlines. After Brexit and Afghanistan do we really need a self publicising fantacist?
She may be the next PM
I understand postBrexit, now global Britain, signing the necessary new trade arrangements makes someone very popular. Just wonder if the same people take quite the opposite view when they find the devil in the detail.
Importing nurses is picking up at quite a rate now again.0 -
Why don't you engage with my specific criticism of her rather than just sledging it as a partisan potshot? Not everyone views global politics as following the right colours of a football team as you do.stodge said:Afternoon all
I see @Casino_Royale is having a cent at Jacinda Ardern who had the temerity to rout a hapless centre-right Opposition at a general election last year.
It seems, despite the current Level 4 lockdown in Auckland (eased to Level 2 elsewhere) the Prime Minister and the Labour Party remain in a strong position:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300407943/covid19-nz-new-poll-has-national-at-21-per-cent-act-not-far-behind-at-15-per-cent
If you want a definition of an ineffective Opposition leader, don't look at Starmer who is a political colossus compared to the useless Judith Collins who oversaw the National rout last year and has remained leader despite what the centre-right tell us is the wealth of talent on the National benches - Christopher Luxon anyone?
The extraordinary aspect of the polls is the gender difference - women have Labour an astonishing 42 points ahead while men have National seven points ahead.
There used to be the notion of generational politics but what of gender? The Redfield/Wilton poll which shows the Conservatives four points ahead has the Conservatives eight points ahead among men and tied with Labour among women - not as stark as NZ but still interesting.
In France, Macron has much stronger support than men while Marine Le Pen gets more support from women.
I want New Zealand firmly in the Western alliance. She threatens that.
If she does well I can and will say so.2 -
I wonder if Williamson will now be plotting his revenge. He was sacked by Theresa May and did not take it lying down.1
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Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.1 -
RTD has seen his career go from strength to strength, even surviving the abominably bad Torchwood USA. He also put his career on the back burner to look after his husband who, tragically, died of cancer a few years ago.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Russell T Davies won an NTA gong this week (for It's a Sin). David Tennant is a seriously good actor, arguably now our best television actor.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Tennant is just excellent in everything he does.1 -
Steven Moffat hugely complicated the show's canon for no great gain. He could at least write snappy dialogue, even if his love of time paradoxes grew wearing.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.1 -
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.0 -
I've said before that Gibb is the Tory Education equivalent of the nuclear war surviving cockroach.ydoethur said:
Quite possibly he is. But as I have said before, Williamson wasn’t the problem and firing him won’t on its own be a solution. Unless Gibb and Spielman are also removed along with the entirety of the senior structure of the DfE - everybody of undersecretary rank and above - then it’s deckchairs on the Titanic.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Nadhim Zahawi is a good appointmentydoethur said:Can @RochdalePioneers please not post things like ‘Mad Nad for education?’ I genuinely did feel ill when I read that until I realised it was a joke.
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17-18 years is a very good run for a show though, not far off the length of the original good run down to about 1983-84.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
But yes, Moffat was a poor choice to run the show after Tennant. Good at writing episodes, hopeless at managing story arcs.0 -
Though cockroaches are unfairly maligned creatures.0
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True, he did, yet his work under RTD for the show was uniformally excellent.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Steven Moffat hugely complicated the show's canon for no great gain. He could at least write snappy dialogue, even if his love of time paradoxes grew wearing.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
The whole River Song ‘Time Travellers Wife’ thing never really worked either.
Mark Gatiss is a fan and has been closely involved with the show until Chibnall and his work has been generally Mediocre. Too many fans involved in the show.1 -
It was May who made him Chief Whip, and Cameron who gave Raab his first ministerial post. Not that that detracts very much from your point.Farooq said:
I think anyone who pays any attention to this sort of thing is not going to give Boris credit for sacking someone he obviously never should have appointed in the first place (Williamson).Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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Really? Jabs were popular. His media appearances rather all over the place.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Excellent appointmentCarlottaVance said:Nadhim Zahawi MP @NadhimZahawi has been appointed Secretary of State for Education @educationgovuk
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1438171652723023879?s=20
i) He'll do a good job and
ii) the Anti-vaxxers will go absolutely nuts (aren't they already? - ed.)0 -
You might be right. I do not like sci fi (or fantasy) – not even when they get their kit off.JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.0 -
The current proposals are to gut GDPR and to seriously reduce data privacy safeguards, under the guise of some gentle streamlining of the regulation. I can't see the UK keeping its EU data adequacy agreement if they go ahead with the proposals.Carnyx said:
Interesting - a Brexiter in charge of the laws to replace GDPR, also.CarlottaVance said:Confirmed:
Nadine Dorries MP @NadineDorries has been appointed Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport @DCMS
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“ Not that far from SeanT in style “MattW said:
Not that far from SeanT in style:CarlottaVance said:
I wonder if she carries a knife?
Und der Haifisch, der hat Zähne,
Und die trägt er im Gesicht...
That’s actually on the back cover! 😲0 -
I'm just glad someone's doing something with the shell.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Apple as well as Google iirc, and some posh flats. I've lost my mole inside Google so have no inside information to share.Andy_JS said:
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
I moved to London thirty years ago. When I was fit, I used to walk along the Thames, and admire Bankside. Even as a disused husk, it was magnificent. Then I'd go further down the Thames and see Battersea and weep. Better known, nowhere near as glorious, but ruinous after Broome's misadventures.
Both deserve to live. But Bankside will always be a better image of Scott's vision. I love the place, even in its new use.2 -
I know its your pet theory, but can you think of another factor thats also still increasing? Hint vaccinated people and those who have recovered from infection...NerysHughes said:As less and less people are wearing masks, the decrease in cases has increased.
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It doesn't matter, but I think people are allowed to notice and say it if they likeJosiasJessop said:
IMV the question goes deeper: at this level, what does it matter *what* someone looks like? She's not trying to buy a car from someone with a coat that has a faint whiff of goat.isam said:
It’s not racist to say a black man looks like another black man, but Chuka Umunna doesn’t look anything like Chris Eubank.kle4 said:
I love that its a tweet 'has emerged', like someone went digging in an ancient archive rather than just looked back over her twitter feed.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1438180664474472460
What a lovely woman!0 -
The hardcore fans were appalled by the Timeless Child retcon to the Doctor's backstory, so I'm not sure it's the fact Chibnall is a fan of the show which is has caused its problems.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
More that he's a terrible writer, who should never have been considered for the role of showrunner. That awful Cyberwoman episode he wrote for Torchwood should have disqualified him from writing science fiction ever again.0 -
The whole reboot was too clever, camp and knowing for its own good. The original was, I imagine, groundbreaking and brilliant for its time. I'm 60 so watched it unironically from behind the sofa, and it was heaps better than most stuff on the telly back then.JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.0 -
JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.
It’s fans writing for fans. It’s the old Alan Partridge line. ‘People like them, lets make some more’.
We have them always bringing back old villains with little purpose. The Zygons came back a few years ago. Why? One story in the seventies and a small cameo or two aside but it was pointless. Putting an ice warrior on a submarine. Why ?
Reliving the old days. Like the JNT era it becomes a disappointment and the show is made for fans who don’t like it.
Too many fans are continuity obsessed.0 -
I should also add that Chibnall brought back no old villains in his first season. It was just as garbage as the last season was.0
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As for the reshuffle - to be honest, no big surprises and clearly somebody's been looking at PB.
The departure of Williamson will be widely welcomed as will Raab's move though I gather he remains Deputy PM.
Liz Truss has done well at Trade but FCO is different - it has to be more than trade and in a period where foreign policy seems to have been sub-contracted next door you wonder how Truss will get her viewpoint across.
Dowden is being "rewarded" with the poisoned chalice of Conservative co-chair. He can hardly be less anonymous than his predecessor but poor local results next year will diminish his prospects of being a potential successor to Johnson.
Michael Gove gets Local Government and the Union - the sublime AND the ridiculous.0 -
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.0 -
With the current state of the electricity grid, the best thing to do with it would be to stick a coal fired power-station back in it.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Apple as well as Google iirc, and some posh flats. I've lost my mole inside Google so have no inside information to share.Andy_JS said:
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
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He’s clearly not a terrible writer as his TV output, Dr Who and Torchwood aside has been well received. He has had a reasonable career.RandallFlagg said:
The hardcore fans were appalled by the Timeless Child retcon to the Doctor's backstory, so I'm not sure it's the fact Chibnall is a fan of the show which is has caused its problems.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
More that he's a terrible writer, who should never have been considered for the role of showrunner. That awful Cyberwoman episode he wrote for Torchwood should have disqualified him from writing science fiction ever again.
Not only his Torchwood episodes were poor and Cyberwoman was probably the poorest. His Dr Who episodes were awful too.
In the past stuff like the time lords in the war games and gallifrey in deadly assassin may not have been well received but they added to the show as this was an aspect that was not known. The timeless child added nothing to the show.
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It's like Star Wars episodes 7 to 9. They should have asked Lucas for a three-story plot arc and create the world vision and character arcs, then bound and gagged him from writing any dialogue. They should then have employed brilliant writers sans vision to envision that plot arc and the character progression.Taz said:JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.
It’s fans writing for fans. It’s the old Alan Partridge line. ‘People like them, lets make some more’.
We have them always bringing back old villains with little purpose. The Zygons came back a few years ago. Why? One story in the seventies and a small cameo or two aside but it was pointless. Putting an ice warrior on a submarine. Why ?
Reliving the old days. Like the JNT era it becomes a disappointment and the show is made for fans who don’t like it.
Too many fans are continuity obsessed.
Instead they listened to fans after every episode, and produced inconsistent dross.1 -
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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Don't worry, I've diverted it onto the safe ground of Star Wars ep.7 to 9 now ...NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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Fill your boots in the next block. There’s a few coming back.RandallFlagg said:I should also add that Chibnall brought back no old villains in his first season. It was just as garbage as the last season was.
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Saw the first film, found it underwhelming. I think my expectation was too high. Never seen another one.JosiasJessop said:
It's like Star Wars episodes 7 to 9. They should have asked Lucas for a three-story plot arc and create the world vision and character arcs, then bound and gagged him from writing any dialogue. They should then have employed brilliant writers sans vision to envision that plot arc and the character progression.Taz said:JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.
It’s fans writing for fans. It’s the old Alan Partridge line. ‘People like them, lets make some more’.
We have them always bringing back old villains with little purpose. The Zygons came back a few years ago. Why? One story in the seventies and a small cameo or two aside but it was pointless. Putting an ice warrior on a submarine. Why ?
Reliving the old days. Like the JNT era it becomes a disappointment and the show is made for fans who don’t like it.
Too many fans are continuity obsessed.
Instead they listened to fans after every episode, and produced inconsistent dross.0 -
If this stops people doing stupid stuff everywhere for fear of GDPR (e.g. My church used to email round a copy of the membership address book, now they will only give it out in hardcopy, lest it somehow get forwarded to someone who shouldn't have it in breach of our GDPR policy), then they should get on an do it.FF43 said:
The current proposals are to gut GDPR and to seriously reduce data privacy safeguards, under the guise of some gentle streamlining of the regulation. I can't see the UK keeping its EU data adequacy agreement if they go ahead with the proposals.Carnyx said:
Interesting - a Brexiter in charge of the laws to replace GDPR, also.CarlottaVance said:Confirmed:
Nadine Dorries MP @NadineDorries has been appointed Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport @DCMS
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1438169372237959171?s=20
There may be some good in GDPR somewhere, but it's mostly just been an excuse for petty bureaucracy and stupid cookie popups.3 -
A big part of the 23/24 election is going to be government competence. Whilst I concur people don't care about reshuffles generally this one does seem to improve cabinet competence a fair amount. Its still not competent but the likes of Williamson and Raab were pretty much guaranteed to score own goals, which the public do notice.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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As far as reshuffles go it was very much new bottle same dreary wine.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
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Could never take it seriously after I saw the recoil of the photon cannon. Though it's only more recently I learnt that the Startroopers were carrying Lewis LMGs - sans ammunition drums - and MG34s.Taz said:
Saw the first film, found it underwhelming. I think my expectation was too high. Never seen another one.JosiasJessop said:
It's like Star Wars episodes 7 to 9. They should have asked Lucas for a three-story plot arc and create the world vision and character arcs, then bound and gagged him from writing any dialogue. They should then have employed brilliant writers sans vision to envision that plot arc and the character progression.Taz said:JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.
It’s fans writing for fans. It’s the old Alan Partridge line. ‘People like them, lets make some more’.
We have them always bringing back old villains with little purpose. The Zygons came back a few years ago. Why? One story in the seventies and a small cameo or two aside but it was pointless. Putting an ice warrior on a submarine. Why ?
Reliving the old days. Like the JNT era it becomes a disappointment and the show is made for fans who don’t like it.
Too many fans are continuity obsessed.
Instead they listened to fans after every episode, and produced inconsistent dross.1 -
Bankside became Tate Modern, of course. Battersea was iconic though (aided by *that* album cover). From what I remember, Battersea's interior was also seriously beautiful.JosiasJessop said:
I'm just glad someone's doing something with the shell.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Apple as well as Google iirc, and some posh flats. I've lost my mole inside Google so have no inside information to share.Andy_JS said:
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
I moved to London thirty years ago. When I was fit, I used to walk along the Thames, and admire Bankside. Even as a disused husk, it was magnificent. Then I'd go further down the Thames and see Battersea and weep. Better known, nowhere near as glorious, but ruinous after Broome's misadventures.
Both deserve to live. But Bankside will always be a better image of Scott's vision. I love the place, even in its new use.1 -
When did the jubilee line extension for the Olympics open?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.0 -
The first run had some peaks and troughs though. The end of the Hartnell run had some cracking stories but the ratings were poor. The end of Troughton had some mediocre stories and the ratings were poor. Tom Bakers last season was destroyed in the ratings by Buck Rogers.IshmaelZ said:
The whole reboot was too clever, camp and knowing for its own good. The original was, I imagine, groundbreaking and brilliant for its time. I'm 60 so watched it unironically from behind the sofa, and it was heaps better than most stuff on the telly back then.JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.0 -
I disagree. Most of them are the same old bottles as well.Mexicanpete said:
As far as reshuffles go it was very much new bottle same dreary wine.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
Matthew 9:14-17 applies. Hopefully.1 -
I see literary genres like music. There are types of music I love: electronic being an example. There are some I don't like: rock and country being two. But even in the ones I dislike, there are gems. Several of Queen's output are superlative in the rock genre. Anything by Dusty in the country genre.DecrepiterJohnL said:
You might be right. I do not like sci fi (or fantasy) – not even when they get their kit off.JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.
It's the same with sci-fi. Here are two shorts I love: "Travel with my cats", and "Friction"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travels_with_My_Cats
https://escapepod.org/2008/02/08/ep144-friction/
Both very different. And not a single spacecraft in either. (In fact, they might stray over into fantasy.)1 -
Raab is now in charge of a major domestic portfolio where there are major, major problems that are going to need energy, imagination and money to sort out.noneoftheabove said:
A big part of the 23/24 election is going to be government competence. Whilst I concur people don't care about reshuffles generally this one does seem to improve cabinet competence a fair amount. Its still not competent but the likes of Williamson and Raab were pretty much guaranteed to score own goals, which the public do notice.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
He doesn’t have any of them.
This could be a train crash.0 -
They should knock the bloody thing down. It is hideous and utterly out of keeping with the rest of the riverside there. I really can't see why everybody is so desperate to preserve it (other than the usual fear that our architects will make what replaces it even worse of course)DecrepiterJohnL said:
Bankside became Tate Modern, of course. Battersea was iconic though (aided by *that* album cover). From what I remember, Battersea's interior was also seriously beautiful.JosiasJessop said:
I'm just glad someone's doing something with the shell.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Apple as well as Google iirc, and some posh flats. I've lost my mole inside Google so have no inside information to share.Andy_JS said:
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
I moved to London thirty years ago. When I was fit, I used to walk along the Thames, and admire Bankside. Even as a disused husk, it was magnificent. Then I'd go further down the Thames and see Battersea and weep. Better known, nowhere near as glorious, but ruinous after Broome's misadventures.
Both deserve to live. But Bankside will always be a better image of Scott's vision. I love the place, even in its new use.1 -
Eh? So you're you walking to the second stop? Or is this a wordplay question? I'm interested, but I don't understand.noneoftheabove said:
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.
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So, Horse. Is it “gealbhan has a good political knowledge - and I am sure much better knowledge than me on most things - and their Labour knowledge is so much better than mine too after I embarrassed myself suggesting otherwise this afternoon. Yes indeed, Rayner can be removed by a vote in the NEC. And Starmer better get on with it, before viz mouth Ang calls Dorries a Swamp Donkey, Raab a Miserbator, and Truss a proper Scruttock with more front than Windaloo On Sea. “gealbhan said:
Nonsense. I have explained on here exactly how it’s done. Two thirds vote on the NEC abolishes Angela Rayner.CorrectHorseBattery said:
It is evident that whilst gealbhan has a good political knowledge - and I am sure much better knowledge than me on most things - their Labour knowledge is dreadful.Sandpit said:
Rayner’s directly elected by the membership, she doesn’t report to Starmer.gealbhan said:
Rayner just called Gavin Williamson a “prat”. Government in waiting?CorrectHorseBattery said:All the Tories who said Starmer was weak and useless, I am sure will be straight out to call BoJo the same, after Raab just pulled the same move.
Anyone? Anyone?
When it comes to Rayner, Starmer is weak and useless.
You haven’t been paying attention. 😆
Hm?0 -
Don’t be silly. Bastard is a massive cock who talks lots of bollocks.Farooq said:
Gavin Williamson - Deuteronomy 23:1ydoethur said:
I disagree. Most of them are the same old bottles as well.Mexicanpete said:
As far as reshuffles go it was very much new bottle same dreary wine.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
Matthew 9:14-17 applies. Hopefully.
Proverbs 26:12 would be better.1 -
Don't you start.Farooq said:
Gavin Williamson - Deuteronomy 23:1ydoethur said:
I disagree. Most of them are the same old bottles as well.Mexicanpete said:
As far as reshuffles go it was very much new bottle same dreary wine.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
Matthew 9:14-17 applies. Hopefully.0 -
Can't argue with that. Give him a couple of months and he might start to understand that funding courts is an essential building block for justice.ydoethur said:
Raab is now in charge of a major domestic portfolio where there are major, major problems that are going to need energy, imagination and money to sort out.noneoftheabove said:
A big part of the 23/24 election is going to be government competence. Whilst I concur people don't care about reshuffles generally this one does seem to improve cabinet competence a fair amount. Its still not competent but the likes of Williamson and Raab were pretty much guaranteed to score own goals, which the public do notice.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
He doesn’t have any of them.
This could be a train crash.1 -
I’ll just be happy if in two months he’s grasped that courts are part of the justice process.noneoftheabove said:
Can't argue with that. Give him a couple of months and he might start to understand that funding courts is an essential building block for justice.ydoethur said:
Raab is now in charge of a major domestic portfolio where there are major, major problems that are going to need energy, imagination and money to sort out.noneoftheabove said:
A big part of the 23/24 election is going to be government competence. Whilst I concur people don't care about reshuffles generally this one does seem to improve cabinet competence a fair amount. Its still not competent but the likes of Williamson and Raab were pretty much guaranteed to score own goals, which the public do notice.NickPalmer said:
Even PB seems to have got bored with it and turned to debating Dr Who!justin124 said:
The public pays little attention to reshuffles - other than when they prove explosive such as back in 1993 when Lamont was removed from the Treasury.Big_G_NorthWales said:I expect that as Boris has sacked Williamson and demoted Raab it will be popular with the public
He doesn’t have any of them.
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I thought the Family of Blood was pretty good.Taz said:
The first run had some peaks and troughs though. The end of the Hartnell run had some cracking stories but the ratings were poor. The end of Troughton had some mediocre stories and the ratings were poor. Tom Bakers last season was destroyed in the ratings by Buck Rogers.IshmaelZ said:
The whole reboot was too clever, camp and knowing for its own good. The original was, I imagine, groundbreaking and brilliant for its time. I'm 60 so watched it unironically from behind the sofa, and it was heaps better than most stuff on the telly back then.JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
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Love a bit of Casino on Stodge, fight fight fight!1
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No. Taking two trains, one after each other. Both northbound. And end in same place. Not a joke, but for pedants, northbound would have been more accurate wording than north.Cookie said:
Eh? So you're you walking to the second stop? Or is this a wordplay question? I'm interested, but I don't understand.noneoftheabove said:
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.0 -
Google are moving to King's Cross. They have a gigantic new campus there. I think it's Apple in Battersea. Facebook are consolidating in Covent Garden iirc.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Apple as well as Google iirc, and some posh flats. I've lost my mole inside Google so have no inside information to share.Andy_JS said:
Interesting anecdote. Aren't they turning Battersea Power Station into Google's new UK headquarters? I think so although haven't read anything about it recently.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Pointless personal anecdote. My love of chemistry was born at the age of seven when I went to an open day at Battersea Power Station and saw "water" magically change colour when a powder was added. The turbine hall was scarily noisy but strangely beautiful.Andy_JS said:Important tube news: the two new stations at Battersea Power Station and Nine Elms open on Monday 20th September.
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Yes - during the Blair years there was a constant rising of average wages, which didn't seem to ring true - took a while to cotton on that while mean wages were going up, median wages were static: it was all driven by wage growth at the top.Sandpit said:
Not just that, but the pay rises are coming from the bottom.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while labour will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
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Well, let's see what you said earlier:Casino_Royale said:
Why don't you engage with my specific criticism of her rather than just sledging it as a partisan potshot? Not everyone views global politics as following the right colours of a football team as you do.
I want New Zealand firmly in the Western alliance. She threatens that.
If she does well I can and will say so.
I do accept there's a considerable contrast between the attitudes of Australian PM Scott Morrison and New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern. I'm not sure the extent to which Morrison's rhetoric is more for domestic consumption than having anything substantial behind it.Casino_Royale said:Ardern is a classic Wokey. Attack the historic and culture of your own country, and meanwhile cosy up to modern nasty authoritarian regimes and bat away any issues with Whataboutery for an extra buck.
No wonder the Chinese love her.
China is of course one of Australia's biggest customers for raw materials whether it be iron ore or coal for the new power stations which are going to be so helpful in reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
New Zealand supplies different things to China - milk, lamb for example. It's a different product and a different market.
Ardern isn't "threatening the Western Alliance" - she's following a less slavishly pro-Washington policy than John Key but she's no David Lange. That said, I see no mood to depart from ANZUS or not to be involved in collaborative enterprises such as the Cyber Crime Working Group.
The position of the Maori in NZ society and culture is always going to be complex. The Maori have a rich and diverse culture which, in former times, the Europeans (Pakeha) tried to destroy or at least marginalise. The extent, however, to which that culture needs to be "protected" is open to question.
The problem is, the Maori are on course to be the third, not second, largest group in NZ behind the Europeans and the Asians (Auckland is quite an Asian city in some aspects).
It diminishes and trivialises a complex issue by throwing around the W-word.2 -
Two classy PB heavyweights enjoying a light sparring on a midweek reshuffle night.CorrectHorseBattery said:Love a bit of Casino on Stodge, fight fight fight!
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Ah - I see! Is it Euston-KCSP?noneoftheabove said:
No. Taking two trains, one after each other. Both northbound. And end in same place. Not a joke, but for pedants, northbound would have been more accurate wording than north.Cookie said:
Eh? So you're you walking to the second stop? Or is this a wordplay question? I'm interested, but I don't understand.noneoftheabove said:
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.3 -
There is, though, a small issue.MrEd said:
Also good for the Treasury as:Sandpit said:
Not just that, but the pay rises are coming from the bottom.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while labour will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
For many years, the minimum wage was a maximum for many jobs - but now we are seeing genuine increases for the poorest workers, as firms compete to hire people, rather than people competing to be hired by firms.
(1) Higher wages mean more income tax and NI payments
(2) Higher wages potentially means lower tax credit payments
Partially offset by higher wages means lower corporate profits which means lower corporation tax. However, as firms like Amazon do not pay taxes anyway, not much impact there.
The UK already imports a lot more than it exports. We want higher wages, but that has to be matched by increased productivity, otherwise we will end up squeezing our remaining export industries.
I am heartened by Gove at Housing: my hope is that one is able to offer "real" pay rises to people by making their cost of living lower.
But this is a tightrope. And it's not like British firms are particularly profitable - corporate profits in the UK are already a smaller percentage of GDP than most of our European peers.
Edit to add: the NI charge is an issue here, as it effectively is a real pay cut for workers, and is really not what we want to be doing here.0 -
To be quoted by you is an honourstodge said:
Two classy PB heavyweights enjoying a light sparring on a midweek reshuffle night.CorrectHorseBattery said:Love a bit of Casino on Stodge, fight fight fight!
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But measures of income inequality were fairly static over that period, so I'm not sure that is right.Cookie said:
Yes - during the Blair years there was a constant rising of average wages, which didn't seem to ring true - took a while to cotton on that while mean wages were going up, median wages were static: it was all driven by wage growth at the top.Sandpit said:
Not just that, but the pay rises are coming from the bottom.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while labour will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
For many years, the minimum wage was a maximum for many jobs - but now we are seeing genuine increases for the poorest workers, as firms compete to hire people, rather than people competing to be hired by firms.0 -
Ah, so based on the false geography of the tube, or possibly the bend in the Thames. This will keep me awake all night. When I used to commute all the way across London, there were huge numbers of tourists going the wrong way on the Picaddily Line, perhaps because the map-makers confused east-west with north-south.noneoftheabove said:
No. Taking two trains, one after each other. Both northbound. And end in same place. Not a joke, but for pedants, northbound would have been more accurate wording than north.Cookie said:
Eh? So you're you walking to the second stop? Or is this a wordplay question? I'm interested, but I don't understand.noneoftheabove said:
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.0 -
Yes northbound Euston - KC Victoria line, then northbound KC-Euston northern line. Or vice versa starting in KC.Cookie said:
Ah - I see! Is it Euston-KCSP?noneoftheabove said:
No. Taking two trains, one after each other. Both northbound. And end in same place. Not a joke, but for pedants, northbound would have been more accurate wording than north.Cookie said:
Eh? So you're you walking to the second stop? Or is this a wordplay question? I'm interested, but I don't understand.noneoftheabove said:
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.1 -
Trouble with light sparring is that someone inevitably finds a gap and lands a heavier shot than intended at which point things go a bit unnecessary.stodge said:
Two classy PB heavyweights enjoying a light sparring on a midweek reshuffle night.CorrectHorseBattery said:Love a bit of Casino on Stodge, fight fight fight!
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No confirmation yet from No 10 that Larry Remains Cat.3
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Sublime. It was adapted from a Virgin New Adventure written by a long time fan. For me, over the whole run it is very much up there with the best from any era.IshmaelZ said:
I thought the Family of Blood was pretty good.Taz said:
The first run had some peaks and troughs though. The end of the Hartnell run had some cracking stories but the ratings were poor. The end of Troughton had some mediocre stories and the ratings were poor. Tom Bakers last season was destroyed in the ratings by Buck Rogers.IshmaelZ said:
The whole reboot was too clever, camp and knowing for its own good. The original was, I imagine, groundbreaking and brilliant for its time. I'm 60 so watched it unironically from behind the sofa, and it was heaps better than most stuff on the telly back then.JosiasJessop said:
Doctor Who is sci-fi for people who don't get sci-fi.Taz said:
RTD has nothing to prove and why would he. He’s moved onwards and upwards and would he recreate the magic a second time.CorrectHorseBattery said:
RTD should come back and save it, otherwise time to put it on ice for a few years.Taz said:
There were the cringe inducing promos prior to her first season with a glass ceiling breaking. Subtle.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Same with Doctor Who, where the water was extensively tested with a female master and whatever River Song turned out to be, and when we did get a lady doctor, she was surrounded by men just in case.kle4 said:
I think there is still something in celebrating a milestone, but you can take that too far and if you then get too specific or its not really a new bar being reached then it is not really worth talking about.Casino_Royale said:
It's such a typical and revealing establishment take.FrancisUrquhart said:The BBC has mentioned a few times now that Liz Truss is the first female Foreign Secretary, which will be news to Margaret Beckett who held the role under Tony Blair.
https://twitter.com/GrantTucker/status/1438156831436705794?s=19
They every see every single news story through the prism of identity politics.
Why the hell should it matter? Let's comment on the experience, capability and agendas of the people appointed - not "celebrate" what tackle they do or don't have between their legs, or what their skin colour is.
A first female Foreign Secretary, if it had been the case, would be worth noting, but as we've had two female PMs and other female holders of Great Offices (still waiting on Chancellor) it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
I vaguely recall an example of it going wrong with the lead from Star Trek Discovery, since there had already been a black female member of a main cast in Star Trek, and a black captain and a female captain, so being the first black female lead character was a thing, but not that big a thing.
The Whitaker years have been poor, really poor. The show has not really recovered from the loss of Tennant and RTD. There have been some highlights along the way but the decline under Whitaker has been marked. Very few highlights and what a load of old shite the Timeless child arc was.
Chibnalls comments to Pip and Jane Baker have certainly come back to haunt him.
Rumour is it is going on hiatus. It needs to. The show can, and will, reinvent itself but it is devoid of ideas. It’s disjointed. It needlessly brings back old monsters and foes for no good reason. The stories are unmemorable. The interest in the show has declined. Merchandise sales are through the floor. The magazine sells to a dwindling audience.
The show was said to be actor proof, it is not Showrunner proof.
The problem is the show has been run by fans for far too long.
(Runs for cover)
Seriously though, it's cr@p scifi. It always has been, always will be. It's lazy, and its world - even in the modern iteration - is laughably inconsistent.
Take the Angels. They create a brilliant enemy. A really horrific one. So Doctor Who defeats them, and they bring them back. Do they make the angels more intelligent, having learnt from their mistakes? No. They just bring back more of them.
It's lazy and stupid writing.
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I think someone has already answered this correctly. While we are on this topic, name the tube station where you can take a train one stop and find yourself at the same station you started from.noneoftheabove said:
No. Taking two trains, one after each other. Both northbound. And end in same place. Not a joke, but for pedants, northbound would have been more accurate wording than north.Cookie said:
Eh? So you're you walking to the second stop? Or is this a wordplay question? I'm interested, but I don't understand.noneoftheabove said:
Silly tube trivia question. Which stations can you go north one stop, get off the train, go north another stop, and end back up in the same place?Andy_JS said:
Spur to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station from Kennington. Takes the number of tube stations to 272.geoffw said:
First new tube station since 2008 when Wood Lane opened on the Hammersmith & City Line, although that wasn't a new line: it was a new station inserted between existing stations. The most recent new station which involved new track was Heathrow Terminal 5 which opened earlier in 2008.0 -
Actually I disagree with that assessment. I would say GDPR is a serious attempt, maybe the only one in the world, to deal with an issue that exercises people about what happens to their data. I would also say it partially succeeds in its goal. It is an onerous piece of legislation - arguably too much so - although I think your church is possibly overcautious here - but it does have teeth. The main thing is that you can sue companies and institutions if they do it wrong, which is a big incentive for them to do it right.theProle said:
If this stops people doing stupid stuff everywhere for fear of GDPR (e.g. My church used to email round a copy of the membership address book, now they will only give it out in hardcopy, lest it somehow get forwarded to someone who shouldn't have it in breach of our GDPR policy), then they should get on an do it.FF43 said:
The current proposals are to gut GDPR and to seriously reduce data privacy safeguards, under the guise of some gentle streamlining of the regulation. I can't see the UK keeping its EU data adequacy agreement if they go ahead with the proposals.Carnyx said:
Interesting - a Brexiter in charge of the laws to replace GDPR, also.CarlottaVance said:Confirmed:
Nadine Dorries MP @NadineDorries has been appointed Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport @DCMS
https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1438169372237959171?s=20
There may be some good in GDPR somewhere, but it's mostly just been an excuse for petty bureaucracy and stupid cookie popups.
The proposed changes is a weakening of safeguards across the piece, but with a multiplicative effect because the safeguards support each other. An example is that most data breaches will no longer need to be reported. The proposed "risk-based" data adequacy agreements will likely result in those that are minimally inconvenienced by the remaining safeguards can just ship the data abroad to do what they like with it.
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That's not true: median income rose during the Blair years quite significantly.Cookie said:
Yes - during the Blair years there was a constant rising of average wages, which didn't seem to ring true - took a while to cotton on that while mean wages were going up, median wages were static: it was all driven by wage growth at the top.Sandpit said:
Not just that, but the pay rises are coming from the bottom.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In the last few days I have come to the conclusion that Boris is determined that wages have to rise hence why he is not permitting work visasSandpit said:
Not an easy one, but was clearly part of the pandemic emergency funding, and they’ll need to find £6bn per year in taxes or borrowing to keep it running.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not support the loss of the temporary £20 UC uplift but the country is divided 38/39 on support/ opposejonny83 said:Can Labour capitalise on this cut to UC? This is the sort of thing they should be scoring hits on a government over and yet I don't think they are being effective at all over it.
Ditto the furlough scheme, there’s several hundred thousand about to go from 80% of their salary to the dole. It still has to be done though.
He seems to be developing a narrative that the conservative party are a high wage controlled immigration party, while labour will hold down wages through their support for unrestricted immigration
There is evidence wages are rising quite quickly and of course the electorate will see this in their pay packets, and it raises more tax and reduces the need for benefits
This is the brexit divided if it comes about
For many years, the minimum wage was a maximum for many jobs - but now we are seeing genuine increases for the poorest workers, as firms compete to hire people, rather than people competing to be hired by firms.
See https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/householddisposableincomeandinequality/financialyear20201 -
I see that the BBC has reported that 'food costs soar'.
Well there was subsidised EOTHO last year but looking at CPI Food:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/d7c8/mm23
we see the cost index is:
Aug 21 103.9
Aug 20 103.7
Aug 19 103.4
Not what you would call soaring prices.
Looking further back it was
Aug 11 96.7
Aug 01 68.2
For some reason 'the poor cannot afford to eat' frothers were unconcerned during the Gordon Brown era.2
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