Poor ratings for Johnson, Patel and Starmer from Ipsos-MORI – politicalbetting.com
Poor ratings for Johnson, Patel and Starmer from Ipsos-MORI – politicalbetting.com
Johnson’s figures is the lowest since October last year. Patel hasn’t been polled before but her numbers are comparable with those for Corbyn ahead of GE2019.
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I wonder if it was the dissing of the RNLI that did it for Ms Patel?
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/08/how-low-boris-johnson-s-approval-rating-falling
"Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, also saw her support among the party's grassroots plummet in July. Patel’s net approval ratings were down 20 points, from 46 to 26, between June and July."
Thatcher was only replaced by her Chancellor, Major, once the Tories trailed Kinnock's Labour badly after the poll tax.
Sunak may be the most popular senior politician at the moment but Boris still has higher favourables than Starmer too.
It looks like Starmer's best chance of becoming PM would be for Priti Patel to become Tory leader, she looks to be far more unpopular than Boris overall
Not that I want the Aussies to lose, mind. I just want us to beat them
Why be so rude and deny the validity of others taking a different view though? Who are you to claim you have the right to declare your country is a country but others who take a different view cannot do the same?
That's just plain disrespectful to one another and I cannot see the point - my view that the UK is my country, held by many, in no way diminishes your strong view that only Scotland is your country. Sure, someone will point to states and law, but your identity remains unaffected to you.
Why cannot my identity be real? Because it was a legal construct centuries ago? All countries are constructs, they are all real if enough people feel they are.
You dont want your identity dictated by others - why is it therefore ok for you to dictate about others' identities?
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It's far more likely that this is because she's totally failed to get a grip on the croas-channel crossings.
I notice a new record number of 482 successfully crossed yesterday, making it over 10,000 this year - so far.
At the moment we are deeply in mid-term. And governments being ahead in the polls mid-term does not generally point to election failure.
They may even get some more Leave seats like Hartlepool to offset any losses in Remain seats like Chesham.
There is also no evidence that Labour and LD voters who like Sunak would actually switch to voting Tory if he was Tory leader
When, after the war, the military gamed Sealion, they estimated that 10% losses due to environment were probable for the poorly equipped German barges.
Given the RIBs used for the crossing are tiny, overloaded, no skilled seamen involved, this could be worse.
10,000 people made it - how many dead?
At least 1,000....
I guess there's a lot of water, but would we expect some evidence (e.g. empty boats turning up)?
What is completely unlikely, is that the current polls will be the result on election day.
She is a disaster and needs to be thrown out of the cabinet
Utterly useless
Yesterday broke records for the numbers of migrants coming to the UK: 482 landing on British beaches. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-58100694
Personally I'd love to see the UK opening up its borders and welcoming people with open arms and to have the kind of wonderful cosmopolitan life which made this country such a beacon. But the kind of Brexiteers who loathe all of that and call it 'woke' aren't very happy with Ms Patel right now.
What’s the message that it’s trying to sell?
Who is the target audience? Do most people know what a burner phone is and do they care?
This will get him likes on Twitter but won’t actually achieve anything
Perhaps 5% of the nation will understand?
'I did not decline offer to meet with Nicola Sturgeon, Boris Johnson claims
BORIS Johnson has denied that he declined an offer to meet with Nicola Sturgeon during his two-day visit to Scotland.'
'Boris Johnson 'quite right' to reject Nicola Sturgeon talks, Douglas Ross claims'
Orf with his head
I am expecting the Labour and Liberal Democrat Parties to continue their slow but steady progress.
Personally I think the Conservatives are in a precarious position right now. Boris has a habit of luck so he may pull things around but I'm increasingly of the view that it's about to go severely pear-shaped for him.
But that doesn't make the catchphrase either catchy or appropriate. It's meaningless drivel.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
I think it's fairly obvious from the absence of daily media stories that hundreds of people aren't drowning in the channel every week - probably mostly because the RNLI are quite good at their job.
Some suggestion he might be done with the red ball game entirely, and just focus.on the big bucks of T20.
If England weren't in for a trashing in the Ashes they are now and big hit to T20.squad not to have Archer, and maybe not Stokes.
And I suggest you (re)watch The Wire, or take a trip to any of your local drug dealing hotspots if you're not sure what a burner phone is.
The Channel is quite a nasty place for a swim. Even in a life jacket you won't last very long.
It’s a poorly conceived marketing message
Obviously appropriate is important. They don't crop up much in Pride and Prejudice.
I quite like it as a tagline, but the whole plank of Labour's strategy hasn't gone great.
What is quite strange with this ISPOS-MORI poll, to me anyway, is that 39% "Dont Know" about Sir Keir, whereas the last two polls by them had 23% and 27% saying so - The more people see him the more they don't know? Is that usual?
Is anyone else following the loony Safr and his merry bad of rocket scientists?
They fitted 27 engines to the orbital booster the other day - in a few hours. 22 minutes per engine. Then rolled to the pad.....
https://www.techtelegraph.co.uk/what-is-a-burner-phone-and-when-should-you-use-one/
Here is the Daily Mail from a few weeks ago. The phrase is put in inverted commas. "Burner phone"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9596557/Drug-users-ordered-phone-stunned-police-texting-want-help-you.html
If the Daily Mail has to put a phrase in inverted commas because it will strike readers as odd and not immediately understandable, then it is safe to say it has not entered the common lexicon. So yeah, you aren't plugged into The Culture or you would sense this
I’m willing to bet that people don’t raise this on the doorsteps at the next election
Edit: and the claim that the government is acting like a criminal gang won’t gain traction because it is implausible to most voters
There are always blurred lines around the boundaries of definition. But DougSeal is just being a wind-up. Europe is clearly a defined area and in many ways a lot more defined than some others in the world e.g. Southeast Asia.
'Africa' too has all manner of issues when it comes to lumping together disparate peoples and with a bloody great desert that marks a very clear cultural, ethnic and climatic difference between the 'top' 1/4 and the 3/4's 'below'.
Then there's Professor Ali Mazrui who famously argued that the Arabian peninsular should be considered African, whilst some others think Egypt is Middle-eastern and not part of Africa etc. etc.
Fact is that most sub-Saharan Africans consider themselves African and most Europeans consider themselves European.
Not the Brexit Brits, obvs.
As to effective messaging - who knows. It does have a hint of preaching to the fan club, though.
It’s too complicated and makes too many assumptions about underlying knowledge to be effective advertising
Then the Islamic conquest of what remained of the Byzantine Empire in 1453 (in addition to the long since gone North African provinces of Rome) made the Med a cultural border rather than a centre. That, coupled with the colonisation of the Americas made it necessary for us to come up with a geographical label that positively differentiated this Eurasian penninsular from the rest of the world.
Thus the concept of Europe took greater hold from the start of the Early Modern period whereas previously "Christendom" was more used.
Obviously isnt true and danger of media headlines using well known companies in their headlines, which twist the report into minimum wage failures. Obviously nobody on twitter actually reads the accompanying copy for the context.
For some it means a non-smart phone that is simply cheap and can be thrown away if it "gets traced"
For others it is a phone that can be easily bought and used with a false identity
For others it is a cheap phone that must have prepaid minutes
And so on.
Therefore Charles is right, even if you have a decent grasp of what a burner phone is (one of these or similar definitions) then it is not clear what charge Labour is making against the government
"Government by burner phone". It reckon it is a line which sounded cool and hip to middle aged people in an ideas meeting, but now withers in embarrassment when it encounters the real world, like one of those deep-water fish in Lake Baikal which explode when they hit the surface
This is well targeted at young people who need to be motivated to vote Labour. The old farts who don't know what a burner is tend to be Tory voters.
Edit: Leon's reservations noted, however.
I'm shocked.
(The number of Conservative-friendly posters who've pounced on this as a bad idea does make me think it's probably a good idea that needs to be rubbished. Remember chaps- Never interrupt your enemy if they're making a mistake.)
This explains why the Uniondivvie is so turned on by it, as an elderly Scot it makes him feel part of Da Yoof, for a few sad, poignant seconds
What really does for governments is when things personally (could) effect a big proportion of the voting population e.g. dementia tax and more recently pingdemic...so many people are hopping mad about having been pinged or contacted by test and trace and having to isolate just as the nice weather came....while also hearing day in day out we are all going to hell in a handbasket with 100,000s of daily cases incoming shortly...after hearing all the talk of Freeeeeeeeeeeedom day.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-58080116
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57643577
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Burner phone
Did she tell you that personally Leon?