If the Daily Mail has to put a phrase in inverted commas because it will strike readers as odd and not immediately understandable, then it is safe to say it has not entered the common lexicon. So yeah, you aren't plugged into The Culture or you would sense this
It will be understood by anyone who watches American crime dramas.
As to effective messaging - who knows. It does have a hint of preaching to the fan club, though.
I'm not even sure that is true. And this is partly because, if you google the phrase, there is dispute as to what it means, even for those who use the term
For some it means a non-smart phone that is simply cheap and can be thrown away if it "gets traced"
For others it is a phone that can be easily bought and used with a false identity
For others it is a cheap phone that must have prepaid minutes
And so on.
Therefore Charles is right, even if you have a decent grasp of what a burner phone is (one of these or similar definitions) then it is not clear what charge Labour is making against the government
"Government by burner phone". It reckon it is a line which sounded cool and hip to middle aged people in an ideas meeting, but now withers in embarrassment when it encounters the real world, like one of those deep-water fish in Lake Baikal which explode when they hit the surface
Eh?
A burner phone (& associated number) is one which Is not connected with you, and which you will throw away.
So, if you were a drug dealer, you would use it to make transactions for a month and then bin it. If you were an insider trader, you would take advantage of the fact there was no link between that phone and you.
It’s a pretty common term, and it has only one meaning.
Whether it’s an effective attack line is another matter altogether.
I suppose this is leaning into the negotiation by ministers (including Hancock) of favourable PPE and testing contracts using personal email or phones. I know what a burner is, I follow politics. But it took me several minutes to fumble for their gist.
I mean they’re not wrong. But why are they buggering about on Twitter with this meme? Call Hancock et al before a special parliamentary committee and let the negative press echo through every news medium, not just a small sub section of Twitter.
So many politicians are crap at politics, never mind governing.
Labour love twitter. They use it to reinforce all their preconceptions about the plebs. My how they laughed ...right up the that exit poll.
The Conservatives love history. Always fighting the last battle.
I've just been watching the Olympics climbing on Red Button. I'm unsure if it should be an Olympic sport, but it's spectacular, and they're certainly athletes.
It’s the business, I love it.
For a progressive sport, I was surprised the Spanish contender was known as ‘El Matador’ though!
Not sure it should be an olympic sport, it'll be clinging on by it's fingernails to be included at Paris.
If that is the case, I'm sure they'll chalk it up to experience.
If it does go to Paris, they should hold a bouldering round at Fontainebleau, just because. None of this plastic rubbish.
I think the main issue with it is there's no sense of quite how difficult the climbs are. Most of us would struggle to get off the ground.
way back when, I did a fair bit of climbing and bouldering. found that it took only the slightest change in diffiulty and I'd get absolutely nowhere.
now I'm ... checks notes ... fat, old and well-off ... oh you lot can guess the rest.
There's that point in life when we move from struggling to get off the ground on a good climbing wall to struggling to get off the settee in the living room
The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
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The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
Yes, vastly raised prices are definitely a thing
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
A best selling trashy novelist, and I mean proper best selling, creator of Harry Bosch. Ok for passing the time on a sun lounger though the series is a bit exhausted now. I prefer Robert Crais in that particular line.
Ah yes, Bosch. I used to devour them on holiday. Ages ago now but I think I recall he was standard 'tough guy with a heart' material but with the quirk that he knocked up a good pasta (and quite often did).
I am now astounded that I used to hang on Patricia Cornwell's every book. The past is indeed a foreign country.
Yep - read those too. Kay Scarpetta. Solid work. And I'm confident of low-browing you off the court with Robert Walker's "Jessica Coran" potboilers. There's no way you would have spent hours with them, but I did.
The Sue Grafton books are my favourite trash. She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
Genius move from compassionate/psych-ops side of HM government, it must be said. 0.7% was too much for others to consider competing, but drop to 0.5% and everyone will want to beat that to be more generous than the isolationist, backward-looking Brexit Brits. End result, significantly more money overall for aid projects
If the Daily Mail has to put a phrase in inverted commas because it will strike readers as odd and not immediately understandable, then it is safe to say it has not entered the common lexicon. So yeah, you aren't plugged into The Culture or you would sense this
It will be understood by anyone who watches American crime dramas.
As to effective messaging - who knows. It does have a hint of preaching to the fan club, though.
I'm not even sure that is true. And this is partly because, if you google the phrase, there is dispute as to what it means, even for those who use the term
For some it means a non-smart phone that is simply cheap and can be thrown away if it "gets traced"
For others it is a phone that can be easily bought and used with a false identity
For others it is a cheap phone that must have prepaid minutes
And so on.
Therefore Charles is right, even if you have a decent grasp of what a burner phone is (one of these or similar definitions) then it is not clear what charge Labour is making against the government
"Government by burner phone". It reckon it is a line which sounded cool and hip to middle aged people in an ideas meeting, but now withers in embarrassment when it encounters the real world, like one of those deep-water fish in Lake Baikal which explode when they hit the surface
Eh?
A burner phone (& associated number) is one which Is not connected with you, and which you will throw away.
So, if you were a drug dealer, you would use it to make transactions for a month and then bin it. If you were an insider trader, you would take advantage of the fact there was no link between that phone and you.
It’s a pretty common term, and it has only one meaning.
Whether it’s an effective attack line is another matter altogether.
I suppose this is leaning into the negotiation by ministers (including Hancock) of favourable PPE and testing contracts using personal email or phones. I know what a burner is, I follow politics. But it took me several minutes to fumble for their gist.
I mean they’re not wrong. But why are they buggering about on Twitter with this meme? Call Hancock et al before a special parliamentary committee and let the negative press echo through every news medium, not just a small sub section of Twitter.
So many politicians are crap at politics, never mind governing.
Labour love twitter. They use it to reinforce all their preconceptions about the plebs. My how they laughed ...right up the that exit poll.
The Conservatives love history. Always fighting the last battle.
Thing is, it's still a winning strategy if your opponents are also fighting the last battle, a battle that you won.
I've just been watching the Olympics climbing on Red Button. I'm unsure if it should be an Olympic sport, but it's spectacular, and they're certainly athletes.
It’s the business, I love it.
For a progressive sport, I was surprised the Spanish contender was known as ‘El Matador’ though!
Not sure it should be an olympic sport, it'll be clinging on by it's fingernails to be included at Paris.
If that is the case, I'm sure they'll chalk it up to experience.
If it does go to Paris, they should hold a bouldering round at Fontainebleau, just because. None of this plastic rubbish.
I think the main issue with it is there's no sense of quite how difficult the climbs are. Most of us would struggle to get off the ground.
way back when, I did a fair bit of climbing and bouldering. found that it took only the slightest change in diffiulty and I'd get absolutely nowhere.
now I'm ... checks notes ... fat, old and well-off ... oh you lot can guess the rest.
Yeah. Only too well. Its the dodgy tendons that would do for me, I think. Not the excess weight. Honest.
If the Daily Mail has to put a phrase in inverted commas because it will strike readers as odd and not immediately understandable, then it is safe to say it has not entered the common lexicon. So yeah, you aren't plugged into The Culture or you would sense this
It will be understood by anyone who watches American crime dramas.
As to effective messaging - who knows. It does have a hint of preaching to the fan club, though.
I'm not even sure that is true. And this is partly because, if you google the phrase, there is dispute as to what it means, even for those who use the term
For some it means a non-smart phone that is simply cheap and can be thrown away if it "gets traced"
For others it is a phone that can be easily bought and used with a false identity
For others it is a cheap phone that must have prepaid minutes
And so on.
Therefore Charles is right, even if you have a decent grasp of what a burner phone is (one of these or similar definitions) then it is not clear what charge Labour is making against the government
"Government by burner phone". It reckon it is a line which sounded cool and hip to middle aged people in an ideas meeting, but now withers in embarrassment when it encounters the real world, like one of those deep-water fish in Lake Baikal which explode when they hit the surface
Eh?
A burner phone (& associated number) is one which Is not connected with you, and which you will throw away.
So, if you were a drug dealer, you would use it to make transactions for a month and then bin it. If you were an insider trader, you would take advantage of the fact there was no link between that phone and you.
It’s a pretty common term, and it has only one meaning.
Whether it’s an effective attack line is another matter altogether.
I suppose this is leaning into the negotiation by ministers (including Hancock) of favourable PPE and testing contracts using personal email or phones. I know what a burner is, I follow politics. But it took me several minutes to fumble for their gist.
I mean they’re not wrong. But why are they buggering about on Twitter with this meme? Call Hancock et al before a special parliamentary committee and let the negative press echo through every news medium, not just a small sub section of Twitter.
So many politicians are crap at politics, never mind governing.
Labour love twitter. They use it to reinforce all their preconceptions about the plebs. My how they laughed ...right up the that exit poll.
The Conservatives love history. Always fighting the last battle.
Thing is, it's still a winning strategy if your opponents are also fighting the last battle, a battle that you won.
That is very true. I mean Lab have ditched Jezza, though, and his presence secured the Cons my vote so perhaps there are some tweaks they have made. Far from enough yet imo.
What is quite strange with this ISPOS-MORI poll, to me anyway, is that 39% "Dont Know" about Sir Keir, whereas the last two polls by them had 23% and 27% saying so - The more people see him the more they don't know? Is that usual?
I can explain. A person has an unfavourable view of him (eg you). Then they get to know him better. Now they are not so sure they dislike him (we're off you now). He seems ok. However they can't say they positively like him either. It's neither like nor dislike. So they move to 'don't know'. The holding pen. They could break to 'like' or 'dislike' depending on their impression as they get to know him even better than they do now (having got to know him a little better).
Or they might stay in the bland, wish washy nothingness of ‘DK’ forever!
I actually don't see much wrong with that. There's plenty of high profile public figures who I can't say I like and yet I can't say I dislike either. I'll give you just one - Kirsty Wark - but there are loads. And it certainly includes politicians. Rishi Sunak, Ed Davey, Andy Burnham, to name one from each party that spring to mind and who I'm ambivalent about. If surveyed about those 3 I'd answer 'don't know' if I was being truthful.
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
A best selling trashy novelist, and I mean proper best selling, creator of Harry Bosch. Ok for passing the time on a sun lounger though the series is a bit exhausted now. I prefer Robert Crais in that particular line.
Ah yes, Bosch. I used to devour them on holiday. Ages ago now but I think I recall he was standard 'tough guy with a heart' material but with the quirk that he knocked up a good pasta (and quite often did).
I am now astounded that I used to hang on Patricia Cornwell's every book. The past is indeed a foreign country.
Yep - read those too. Kay Scarpetta. Solid work. And I'm confident of low-browing you off the court with Robert Walker's "Jessica Coran" potboilers. There's no way you would have spent hours with them, but I did.
The Sue Grafton books are my favourite trash. She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
Och, I'd put them a level above trash, I've reread a few of them which is my personal seal of approval. There's a strand of quality thriller/tec writing (mainly US) which goes back probably to the 50s, Ross McDonald, Tony Hillerman, Laurence Block, Sarah Paretsky, that I'd put in the 'decent' folder. Chandler and Hammett had a very good influence I think.
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
Not a book reader then
Currently reading R. D, Blackmore's Lorna Doone, so about 150 years to catch up. Mainly read history and science, with the cheeky bit of historical fiction thrown in.
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
Not a book reader then
Currently reading R. D, Blackmore's Lorna Doone, so about 150 years to catch up. Mainly read history and science, with the cheeky bit of historical fiction thrown in.
The only book I know that features my old school…
My school featured in a novel I read. They lost a rugby match to the main character's school.
When I was there, we only had a football team. But it was no longer a grammar school by then.
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
A best selling trashy novelist, and I mean proper best selling, creator of Harry Bosch. Ok for passing the time on a sun lounger though the series is a bit exhausted now. I prefer Robert Crais in that particular line.
Ah yes, Bosch. I used to devour them on holiday. Ages ago now but I think I recall he was standard 'tough guy with a heart' material but with the quirk that he knocked up a good pasta (and quite often did).
I am now astounded that I used to hang on Patricia Cornwell's every book. The past is indeed a foreign country.
Yep - read those too. Kay Scarpetta. Solid work. And I'm confident of low-browing you off the court with Robert Walker's "Jessica Coran" potboilers. There's no way you would have spent hours with them, but I did.
The Sue Grafton books are my favourite trash. She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
Ah, heard off but never read any. One of the 1st with a female (private) dick apparently per a quick wiki. And she didn't do a "Z is for ..." for some reason. Stopped at Y.
Who is the target audience? Do most people know what a burner phone is and do they care?
This will get him likes on Twitter but won’t actually achieve anything
Agreed. I'm not entirely sure what a burner phone is, and I'm quite plugged into The Culture
Perhaps 5% of the nation will understand?
And for that 5% it will resonate. Segmented marketing very clever.
And I suggest you (re)watch The Wire, or take a trip to any of your local drug dealing hotspots if you're not sure what a burner phone is.
Eh? I know what a burner is. And I hate **** mobeys. And I'm old enough to remember Hornby Dublo was the highest tech a child got to see, the TV aside.
This is well targeted at young people who need to be motivated to vote Labour. The old farts who don't know what a burner is tend to be Tory voters.
It is exactly the opposite. It is a term which sounds cool and trendy to much older people, but is *cringe* with young people, if they even understand it. Remember that one of the biggest fans of Line of Duty is the Queen.
This explains why the Uniondivvie is so turned on by it, as an elderly Scot it makes him feel part of Da Yoof, for a few sad, poignant seconds
The Queen likes Line of Duty? She has gone up in my estimation. My Dad is 95 and has no desire to watch it and if he did would not have a clue what is going on.
Did she tell you that personally Leon?
And he's far more likley to vote than anyone under 40!
'segmented marketing' assures me that it is, in fact, really, really clever.
Anyone who has ever canvassed will know that the aim is not to convert the opposition, but to ensure that friendlies remain friendly.
As such no one gives a flying f*ck about what old white Tory blokes on PB think, save for being delighted that they are spending the entire thread talking about it, that is.
Lol - explanation number 101 why Remain f***** up the Referendum. Didn't get it then ...still don't get it.
Who is the target audience? Do most people know what a burner phone is and do they care?
This will get him likes on Twitter but won’t actually achieve anything
Agreed. I'm not entirely sure what a burner phone is, and I'm quite plugged into The Culture
Perhaps 5% of the nation will understand?
And for that 5% it will resonate. Segmented marketing very clever.
And I suggest you (re)watch The Wire, or take a trip to any of your local drug dealing hotspots if you're not sure what a burner phone is.
Eh? I know what a burner is. And I hate **** mobeys. And I'm old enough to remember Hornby Dublo was the highest tech a child got to see, the TV aside.
This is well targeted at young people who need to be motivated to vote Labour. The old farts who don't know what a burner is tend to be Tory voters.
It is exactly the opposite. It is a term which sounds cool and trendy to much older people, but is *cringe* with young people, if they even understand it. Remember that one of the biggest fans of Line of Duty is the Queen.
This explains why the Uniondivvie is so turned on by it, as an elderly Scot it makes him feel part of Da Yoof, for a few sad, poignant seconds
That's why you're all talking about it, eh? Pretty much ANY line by a shadow Cabinet Minister that gets any attention at all is a standout success.
Exactly. Jon Trickett MP punches the air as he has the whole of PB talking about his tweet.
But of course back to reality, Big G doesn't know what it means so we can discard it as an effective marketing communication.
There is another potential thought process for those who know what a burner phone is.
As privacy is so hard to keep in the electronic leaking era and trust or loyalty are almost nonexistent in acolytes, appointed employees and past associates, there may be a considerable cohort who think 'in your place I would do the same' I think I would. It is a dirty game this leaking business, and plausible deniability is useful.
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
A best selling trashy novelist, and I mean proper best selling, creator of Harry Bosch. Ok for passing the time on a sun lounger though the series is a bit exhausted now. I prefer Robert Crais in that particular line.
Ah yes, Bosch. I used to devour them on holiday. Ages ago now but I think I recall he was standard 'tough guy with a heart' material but with the quirk that he knocked up a good pasta (and quite often did).
I am now astounded that I used to hang on Patricia Cornwell's every book. The past is indeed a foreign country.
Yep - read those too. Kay Scarpetta. Solid work. And I'm confident of low-browing you off the court with Robert Walker's "Jessica Coran" potboilers. There's no way you would have spent hours with them, but I did.
The Sue Grafton books are my favourite trash. She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
Ah, heard off but never read any. One of the 1st with a female (private) dick apparently per a quick wiki. And she didn't do a "Z is for ..." for some reason. Stopped at Y.
'segmented marketing' assures me that it is, in fact, really, really clever.
Anyone who has ever canvassed will know that the aim is not to convert the opposition, but to ensure that friendlies remain friendly.
As such no one gives a flying f*ck about what old white Tory blokes on PB think, save for being delighted that they are spending the entire thread talking about it, that is.
Lol - explanation number 101 why Remain f***** up the Referendum. Didn't get it then ...still don't get it.
I have absolutely no doubt why Remain lost the referendum.
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
A best selling trashy novelist, and I mean proper best selling, creator of Harry Bosch. Ok for passing the time on a sun lounger though the series is a bit exhausted now. I prefer Robert Crais in that particular line.
Ah yes, Bosch. I used to devour them on holiday. Ages ago now but I think I recall he was standard 'tough guy with a heart' material but with the quirk that he knocked up a good pasta (and quite often did).
I am now astounded that I used to hang on Patricia Cornwell's every book. The past is indeed a foreign country.
Yep - read those too. Kay Scarpetta. Solid work. And I'm confident of low-browing you off the court with Robert Walker's "Jessica Coran" potboilers. There's no way you would have spent hours with them, but I did.
The Sue Grafton books are my favourite trash. She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
Ah, heard off but never read any. One of the 1st with a female (private) dick apparently per a quick wiki. And she didn't do a "Z is for ..." for some reason. Stopped at Y.
Illness and Death caught up with her before she started Z is for Zero...
"Island in north Scotland". How to choke up the local transport. Or does he know something about the missile range on Benbecula, or RAF Saxa Vord, we don't?
Who is the target audience? Do most people know what a burner phone is and do they care?
This will get him likes on Twitter but won’t actually achieve anything
Agreed. I'm not entirely sure what a burner phone is, and I'm quite plugged into The Culture
Perhaps 5% of the nation will understand?
And for that 5% it will resonate. Segmented marketing very clever.
And I suggest you (re)watch The Wire, or take a trip to any of your local drug dealing hotspots if you're not sure what a burner phone is.
Eh? I know what a burner is. And I hate **** mobeys. And I'm old enough to remember Hornby Dublo was the highest tech a child got to see, the TV aside.
This is well targeted at young people who need to be motivated to vote Labour. The old farts who don't know what a burner is tend to be Tory voters.
It is exactly the opposite. It is a term which sounds cool and trendy to much older people, but is *cringe* with young people, if they even understand it. Remember that one of the biggest fans of Line of Duty is the Queen.
This explains why the Uniondivvie is so turned on by it, as an elderly Scot it makes him feel part of Da Yoof, for a few sad, poignant seconds
That's why you're all talking about it, eh? Pretty much ANY line by a shadow Cabinet Minister that gets any attention at all is a standout success.
Exactly. Jon Trickett MP punches the air as he has the whole of PB talking about his tweet.
But of course back to reality, Big G doesn't know what it means so we can discard it as an effective marketing communication.
There is another potential thought process for those who know what a burner phone is.
As privacy is so hard to keep in the electronic leaking era and trust or loyalty are almost nonexistent in acolytes, appointed employees and past associates, there may be a considerable cohort who think 'in your place I would do the same' I think I would. It is a dirty game this leaking business, and plausible deniability is useful.
If the Daily Mail has to put a phrase in inverted commas because it will strike readers as odd and not immediately understandable, then it is safe to say it has not entered the common lexicon. So yeah, you aren't plugged into The Culture or you would sense this
It will be understood by anyone who watches American crime dramas.
As to effective messaging - who knows. It does have a hint of preaching to the fan club, though.
I'm not even sure that is true. And this is partly because, if you google the phrase, there is dispute as to what it means, even for those who use the term
For some it means a non-smart phone that is simply cheap and can be thrown away if it "gets traced"
For others it is a phone that can be easily bought and used with a false identity
For others it is a cheap phone that must have prepaid minutes
And so on.
Therefore Charles is right, even if you have a decent grasp of what a burner phone is (one of these or similar definitions) then it is not clear what charge Labour is making against the government
"Government by burner phone". It reckon it is a line which sounded cool and hip to middle aged people in an ideas meeting, but now withers in embarrassment when it encounters the real world, like one of those deep-water fish in Lake Baikal which explode when they hit the surface
Eh?
A burner phone (& associated number) is one which Is not connected with you, and which you will throw away.
So, if you were a drug dealer, you would use it to make transactions for a month and then bin it. If you were an insider trader, you would take advantage of the fact there was no link between that phone and you.
It’s a pretty common term, and it has only one meaning.
Whether it’s an effective attack line is another matter altogether.
I suppose this is leaning into the negotiation by ministers (including Hancock) of favourable PPE and testing contracts using personal email or phones. I know what a burner is, I follow politics. But it took me several minutes to fumble for their gist.
I mean they’re not wrong. But why are they buggering about on Twitter with this meme? Call Hancock et al before a special parliamentary committee and let the negative press echo through every news medium, not just a small sub section of Twitter.
So many politicians are crap at politics, never mind governing.
Labour love twitter. They use it to reinforce all their preconceptions about the plebs. My how they laughed ...right up the that exit poll.
The Conservatives love history. Always fighting the last battle.
Wrong again - you're on a roll today. Always winning...
The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
Yes, vastly raised prices are definitely a thing
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
Interesting here in Spain restaurant prices at all levels seem pretty much unchanged. For quality and price way ahead of the UK equivalents.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
What is quite strange with this ISPOS-MORI poll, to me anyway, is that 39% "Dont Know" about Sir Keir, whereas the last two polls by them had 23% and 27% saying so - The more people see him the more they don't know? Is that usual?
I can explain. A person has an unfavourable view of him (eg you). Then they get to know him better. Now they are not so sure they dislike him (we're off you now). He seems ok. However they can't say they positively like him either. It's neither like nor dislike. So they move to 'don't know'. The holding pen. They could break to 'like' or 'dislike' depending on their impression as they get to know him even better than they do now (having got to know him a little better).
Or they might stay in the bland, wish washy nothingness of ‘DK’ forever!
I actually don't see much wrong with that. There's plenty of high profile public figures who I can't say I like and yet I can't say I dislike either. I'll give you just one - Kirsty Wark - but there are loads. And it certainly includes politicians. Rishi Sunak, Ed Davey, Andy Burnham, to name one from each party that spring to mind and who I'm ambivalent about. If surveyed about those 3 I'd answer 'don't know' if I was being truthful.
I don’t think it is a good place to be for someone wanting to convince people he’s the man to replace the current leader of the country, personally.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
Will he? Secures the OAP vote; reinforces the JAM vote; Nics paid by employers and employees - guess it depends by how much and the shareout.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
I've just been watching the Olympics climbing on Red Button. I'm unsure if it should be an Olympic sport, but it's spectacular, and they're certainly athletes.
It’s the business, I love it.
For a progressive sport, I was surprised the Spanish contender was known as ‘El Matador’ though!
Not sure it should be an olympic sport, it'll be clinging on by it's fingernails to be included at Paris.
If that is the case, I'm sure they'll chalk it up to experience.
If it does go to Paris, they should hold a bouldering round at Fontainebleau, just because. None of this plastic rubbish.
I think the main issue with it is there's no sense of quite how difficult the climbs are. Most of us would struggle to get off the ground. If you look at a blank face of rock it is a lot easier to imagine not trying it...
Well they are taking the surfing to Tahiti.
I think the speed round has to be on plastic as it needs two identical "versus" walls but the lead and bouldering would be great to see on real rocks.
tha't the second time you have referenced colour to make a dig. Try substituting another colour and see what it looks like.
Well off old pink Tory blokes completely bewildered at newfangled "marketing" by Labour.
Looks just fine.
As a gay Tory I resent that on many more levels - especially as my Mediterranean tan has not a hint of pink about it.
What about it is it that you resent?
Simply that you seem to think you're totally tuned in to your Liberal vibe while you're just as full of the same old prejudices and stereotypes as the rest of us and completely unaware of it. I'm old, white, gay and proud - in your world all three seem to justify slurs and sneers. Clueless.
Macron is introducing a bill to increase France's foreign aid budget subsidies to Alstom, Schenieder Electric and Vinci from 0.37% of GDP in 2017 to 0.55% in 2022
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
Not a book reader then
Currently reading R. D, Blackmore's Lorna Doone, so about 150 years to catch up. Mainly read history and science, with the cheeky bit of historical fiction thrown in.
The only book I know that features my old school…
Blundells? Did you meet a guy called Mark Tranchant, nickname, Troon whilst there?
The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
Yes, vastly raised prices are definitely a thing
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
Interesting here in Spain restaurant prices at all levels seem pretty much unchanged. For quality and price way ahead of the UK equivalents.
That's because Spain's restaurant sector is dependant on tourists, while the UK's is not.
tha't the second time you have referenced colour to make a dig. Try substituting another colour and see what it looks like.
Well off old pink Tory blokes completely bewildered at newfangled "marketing" by Labour.
Looks just fine.
As a gay Tory I resent that on many more levels - especially as my Mediterranean tan has not a hint of pink about it.
What about it is it that you resent?
Simply that you seem to think you're totally tuned in to your Liberal vibe while you're just as full of the same old prejudices and stereotypes as the rest of us and completely unaware of it. I'm old, white, gay and proud - in your world all three seem to justify slurs and sneers. Clueless.
That was some leap. You're an old, white, Tory. As are so many on PB.
It was not a huge deductive leap for me to work out that that was what you are. And I was right. Oh and you're gay, thanks for telling me.
And old, white, (gay or not gay) Tories have shown themselves to be bewildered by Lab's latest marketing strategy or rather, by Jon Trickett's tweet.
Get over yourself and embrace the truth would be my advice.
I think that's not a good way of looking at the data, because it confuses the number of cases (which are influenced by many factors of which vaccination coverage is only one, and the peaks of which are not necessarily synchronised across states) with the hospitalisations and deaths arising from those cases (which are largely about vaccines, plus to an extent age and other risk profiles of the populations).
The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
Yes, vastly raised prices are definitely a thing
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
Interesting here in Spain restaurant prices at all levels seem pretty much unchanged. For quality and price way ahead of the UK equivalents.
That's because Spain's restaurant sector is dependant on tourists, while the UK's is not.
Hmm, not so sure about that. The Spanish restaurants dependent on tourists tend to be pretty awful. It's the ones the Spaniards go to which are often superb.
tha't the second time you have referenced colour to make a dig. Try substituting another colour and see what it looks like.
Well off old pink Tory blokes completely bewildered at newfangled "marketing" by Labour.
Looks just fine.
As a gay Tory I resent that on many more levels - especially as my Mediterranean tan has not a hint of pink about it.
What about it is it that you resent?
Simply that you seem to think you're totally tuned in to your Liberal vibe while you're just as full of the same old prejudices and stereotypes as the rest of us and completely unaware of it. I'm old, white, gay and proud - in your world all three seem to justify slurs and sneers. Clueless.
That was some leap. You're an old, white, Tory. As are so many on PB.
It was not a huge deductive leap for me to work out that that was what you are. And I was right. Oh and you're gay, thanks for telling me.
And old, white, (gay or not gay) Tories have shown themselves to be bewildered by Lab's latest marketing strategy or rather, by Jon Trickett's tweet.
Get over yourself and embrace the truth would be my advice.
Apparently it was pretty hard for you to understand the other day that I also voted remain. Maybe you could try removing your own blinkered views about race/age/sexuality before handing out unsolicited advice to others.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
Yes, vastly raised prices are definitely a thing
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
Interesting here in Spain restaurant prices at all levels seem pretty much unchanged. For quality and price way ahead of the UK equivalents.
That's because Spain's restaurant sector is dependant on tourists, while the UK's is not.
Hmm, not so sure about that. The Spanish restaurants dependent on tourists tend to be pretty awful. It's the ones the Spaniards go to which are often superb.
Spain is massively more dependent on tourism than the UK. And pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaraunts.
By contrast, Brits not going on vacation increases demand for restaurant meals.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
I suppose this is leaning into the negotiation by ministers (including Hancock) of favourable PPE and testing contracts using personal email or phones. I know what a burner is, I follow politics. But it took me several minutes to fumble for their gist.
I mean they’re not wrong. But why are they buggering about on Twitter with this meme? Call Hancock et al before a special parliamentary committee and let the negative press echo through every news medium, not just a small sub section of Twitter.
So many politicians are crap at politics, never mind governing.
Parliament's in recess, so you do what you can to get attention.
And it's mid-afternoon, and the thread is STILL talking about it.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
That really is an obvious (if painful) place to start. Also fully logical as there is no longer an age at which retirement from the workplace is taken. Gone are the days of 60 female / 65 male. People can opt to continue in employment and so should continue to make the same contributions.
"Island in north Scotland". How to choke up the local transport. Or does he know something about the missile range on Benbecula, or RAF Saxa Vord, we don't?
You can bet he's not talking about Orkney or Shetland
Has anyone ever seen @Leon and Trump in the same room?
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction ("The USA [are most woke], and they will come second behind no-nonsense, get-things-done, what-the-fuck-is-knee-taking China") - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team - and given my limited knowledge I wasn't sure that even those odds were value).
Spain is massively more dependent on tourism than the UK. And pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaraunts.
By contrast, Brits not going on vacation increases demand for restaurant meals.
Come on Nabavi, this isn't rocket surgery.
Yes, exactly, pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaurants, which are mostly rubbish restaurants aimed at tourists. Sure, they're cheap, but if you're a tourist in Spain and don't know have local knowledge about where to go, you've got a pretty good chance of getting a meal which is mediocre at best, and worse than the equivalents in Italy, Greece, or even France.
tha't the second time you have referenced colour to make a dig. Try substituting another colour and see what it looks like.
Well off old pink Tory blokes completely bewildered at newfangled "marketing" by Labour.
Looks just fine.
As a gay Tory I resent that on many more levels - especially as my Mediterranean tan has not a hint of pink about it.
What about it is it that you resent?
Simply that you seem to think you're totally tuned in to your Liberal vibe while you're just as full of the same old prejudices and stereotypes as the rest of us and completely unaware of it. I'm old, white, gay and proud - in your world all three seem to justify slurs and sneers. Clueless.
That was some leap. You're an old, white, Tory. As are so many on PB.
It was not a huge deductive leap for me to work out that that was what you are. And I was right. Oh and you're gay, thanks for telling me.
And old, white, (gay or not gay) Tories have shown themselves to be bewildered by Lab's latest marketing strategy or rather, by Jon Trickett's tweet.
Get over yourself and embrace the truth would be my advice.
Apparently it was pretty hard for you to understand the other day that I also voted remain. Maybe you could try removing your own blinkered views about race/age/sexuality before handing out unsolicited advice to others.
Jeez if leaping to conclusions was an Olympic sport you would win gold ("gold" is ok to use, is it?).
The other day you said you loathed the EU. Which is pretty funny as you live in the EU regardless of how you voted although if I were using my Sherlock Holmes powers again (easy when it comes to you) I would say you voted Remain because you wanted the EU to maintain links to your homeland rather than anything else and if so fair enough.
And now, because I correctly identify the preponderance of old, white, Tory PB-ers, of which you are one such, I have blinkered views about race/age/sexuality [??].
You are an old, white, Tory who can't understand a tweet aimed at Lab's supporters who include many people who are old and white but perhaps not so many as Cons' supporters or PB denizens.
You are looking to be outraged where there is no reason to be outraged.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
That really is an obvious (if painful) place to start. Also fully logical as there is no longer an age at which retirement from the workplace is taken. Gone are the days of 60 female / 65 male. People can opt to continue in employment and so should continue to make the same contributions.
My father recently started a short term job (to help clear the backlog in health sector) and he's equally bemused and happy that he doesn't have to pay NI.
Has anyone ever seen @Leon and Trump in the same room?
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction that China would top the golds looks to be spot on - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team).
I've been too afraid to ask @Leon or anyone else but...what exactly does 'woke' mean?
And 'burner' has also appeared in every single Michael Connelly novel for the past decade.
Of course everyone knows what they are.
Who is Michael Connolly?
A best selling trashy novelist, and I mean proper best selling, creator of Harry Bosch. Ok for passing the time on a sun lounger though the series is a bit exhausted now. I prefer Robert Crais in that particular line.
Ah yes, Bosch. I used to devour them on holiday. Ages ago now but I think I recall he was standard 'tough guy with a heart' material but with the quirk that he knocked up a good pasta (and quite often did).
I am now astounded that I used to hang on Patricia Cornwell's every book. The past is indeed a foreign country.
Yep - read those too. Kay Scarpetta. Solid work. And I'm confident of low-browing you off the court with Robert Walker's "Jessica Coran" potboilers. There's no way you would have spent hours with them, but I did.
The Sue Grafton books are my favourite trash. She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
Ah, heard off but never read any. One of the 1st with a female (private) dick apparently per a quick wiki. And she didn't do a "Z is for ..." for some reason. Stopped at Y.
Deid..
Ah right. Perfectly understandable then. Glad I didn't waffle on too much about that point - why not Zebra, why not Zipcode, why not ... etc
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
So you are forcing the pensioners to pay towards a pension they are already receiving?
What about occupational pensions? will you include those in the NI take?
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
That really is an obvious (if painful) place to start. Also fully logical as there is no longer an age at which retirement from the workplace is taken. Gone are the days of 60 female / 65 male. People can opt to continue in employment and so should continue to make the same contributions.
My father recently started a short term job (to help clear the backlog in health sector) and he's equally bemused and happy that he doesn't have to pay NI.
It's completely barmy. What's more the earlier it's fixed, the less the political cost, since the proportion of pensioners continuing to work is increasing steadily. George Osborne should have done it back in 2010, when few people would have noticed and we were all in it together.
Has anyone ever seen @Leon and Trump in the same room?
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction that China would top the golds looks to be spot on - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team).
I've been too afraid to ask @Leon or anyone else but...what exactly does 'woke' mean?
Something (or someone) you dislike, as far as I can tell.
Has anyone ever seen @Leon and Trump in the same room?
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction that China would top the golds looks to be spot on - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team).
I've been too afraid to ask @Leon or anyone else but...what exactly does 'woke' mean?
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
So you are forcing the pensioners to pay towards a pension they are already receiving?
What about occupational pensions? will you include those in the NI take?
Pensions are exempt, I'm talking about pensioners who are still earning a salary. The salary element should attract NI.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
So you are forcing the pensioners to pay towards a pension they are already receiving?
What about occupational pensions? will you include those in the NI take?
NI isn't just for pensions it's also for the NHS....
Has anyone ever seen @Leon and Trump in the same room?
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction that China would top the golds looks to be spot on - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team).
I've been too afraid to ask @Leon or anyone else but...what exactly does 'woke' mean?
Possibly on topic - I've noticed that my more left friend struggle with condemning Sunak. Obviously they can't like him - Evul Tory - but they find it hard to really go to town.
I think the most dangerous development for both LAB and the LDs would be the Tories replacing Johnson with Sunak in the run-up to the general election.
Very true, but it all depends on how the economy fares over the next couple of years. Sunak's window of opportunity might be best opened sooner rather than later.
The Tokyo 2020 women's Olympic soccer gold-medal match between Canada and Sweden has been moved from its 11 a.m. local time on Friday (10 p.m. ET, Thursday) start to 9 p.m. local time (8 a.m. ET, Friday) after both teams expressed concern about playing in the Japanese heat.
Would have been interesting to see if this would have happened with the USA in the final given that the kick off time was clearly set to appeal to the US market.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
So you are forcing the pensioners to pay towards a pension they are already receiving?
What about occupational pensions? will you include those in the NI take?
Pensions are exempt, I'm talking about pensioners who are still earning a salary. The salary element should attract NI.
Employee NI, the company still pays employer NI even if the employee is over the pension age.
The best restaurant experience I have had since before Ye Plague (not that there have been many during, but still)
Generally excellent, sometimes mind blowingly good. The demi glace on the duck. Ohhhhhh
However, it is NOT CHEAP. Jeez
Glad you liked it. Yes, it's not cheap by any means - but prices of all good restaurants have increased hugely. I don't blame them - their costs have gone up a lot, they've no doubt got big losses to make up, they can't get staff easily, etc etc. You can fairly easily pay that much for a so-so meal in London.
Yes, vastly raised prices are definitely a thing
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
Interesting here in Spain restaurant prices at all levels seem pretty much unchanged. For quality and price way ahead of the UK equivalents.
That's because Spain's restaurant sector is dependant on tourists, while the UK's is not.
Hmm, not so sure about that. The Spanish restaurants dependent on tourists tend to be pretty awful. It's the ones the Spaniards go to which are often superb.
Spain is massively more dependent on tourism than the UK. And pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaraunts.
By contrast, Brits not going on vacation increases demand for restaurant meals.
Come on Nabavi, this isn't rocket surgery.
Actually on this Mr Nabavi is spot on. I live near a tourist zone but one which is largely Spanish tourists. The top local restaurants do get Spanish tourist trade but they also open year round, have very high standards, are cheap by British standards but the quality is way higher. The best restaurants in my area attract those who live here all or most of the year and in most of the cases I'm thinking of are family run and of very long standing.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
That really is an obvious (if painful) place to start. Also fully logical as there is no longer an age at which retirement from the workplace is taken. Gone are the days of 60 female / 65 male. People can opt to continue in employment and so should continue to make the same contributions.
Rationalising National Insurance does make sense. But I have never understood PB Tories' animosity to the triple lock. The full state pension is less than £10,000 a year which is less than the minimum wage. It is as mysterious as all those backbenchers who used to demand concessions for garden centres.
tha't the second time you have referenced colour to make a dig. Try substituting another colour and see what it looks like.
Well off old pink Tory blokes completely bewildered at newfangled "marketing" by Labour.
Looks just fine.
As a gay Tory I resent that on many more levels - especially as my Mediterranean tan has not a hint of pink about it.
What about it is it that you resent?
Simply that you seem to think you're totally tuned in to your Liberal vibe while you're just as full of the same old prejudices and stereotypes as the rest of us and completely unaware of it. I'm old, white, gay and proud - in your world all three seem to justify slurs and sneers. Clueless.
That was some leap. You're an old, white, Tory. As are so many on PB.
It was not a huge deductive leap for me to work out that that was what you are. And I was right. Oh and you're gay, thanks for telling me.
And old, white, (gay or not gay) Tories have shown themselves to be bewildered by Lab's latest marketing strategy or rather, by Jon Trickett's tweet.
Get over yourself and embrace the truth would be my advice.
Apparently it was pretty hard for you to understand the other day that I also voted remain. Maybe you could try removing your own blinkered views about race/age/sexuality before handing out unsolicited advice to others.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
That really is an obvious (if painful) place to start. Also fully logical as there is no longer an age at which retirement from the workplace is taken. Gone are the days of 60 female / 65 male. People can opt to continue in employment and so should continue to make the same contributions.
Rationalising National Insurance does make sense. But I have never understood PB Tories' animosity to the triple lock. The full state pension is less than £10,000 a year which is less than the minimum wage. It is as mysterious as all those backbenchers who used to demand concessions for garden centres.
It'd make more sense to merge NI and income tax, and abolish the allowances for bank interest and share dividends, and tax income fairly. And leave the triple lock.
Spain is massively more dependent on tourism than the UK. And pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaraunts.
By contrast, Brits not going on vacation increases demand for restaurant meals.
Come on Nabavi, this isn't rocket surgery.
Yes, exactly, pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaurants, which are mostly rubbish restaurants aimed at tourists. Sure, they're cheap, but if you're a tourist in Spain and don't know have local knowledge about where to go, you've got a pretty good chance of getting a meal which is mediocre at best, and worse than the equivalents in Italy, Greece, or even France.
Oh come on Nabavi, you've completely ignored my point about Brits not going on vacation, and therefore boosting demand for restaurant meals in the UK. And you also seem to believe that in Spain, restaurants fall neatly into two categories, which do in any way affect each other.
On topic, Sunak's going to become as unpopular as an ex with the clap if he keeps the triple lock, cuts the UC uplift, and generally puts up payroll taxes.
When do we find out and can we bet on it/them?
Well the UC uplift ends next month, so that will be pretty soon either way.
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
The triple lock does need to go - though aware it appeals to much of the Tories base. Though in the spirit of fairness if I end up paying more tax whilst the oldies are showered with goodies than the resentment will just build.
Indeed. At some point the younger voters will finally turn out and vote.
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
So you are forcing the pensioners to pay towards a pension they are already receiving?
What about occupational pensions? will you include those in the NI take?
NI isn't just for pensions it's also for the NHS....
Perhaps we should have 2 deductions, one for future pensions and one for hospitals and health. Or even combine the second payment into Tax where it belongs. I wouldn't object to paying more tax on my teacher's pension for health etc, but not pensions.
"Island in north Scotland". How to choke up the local transport. Or does he know something about the missile range on Benbecula, or RAF Saxa Vord, we don't?
You can bet he's not talking about Orkney or Shetland
Interesting contrast between Ireland and the UK in vaxx rates for the younger cohorts. For 18-29, Ireland has a take-up of 73% double-vaxxed and 78.5% first dose only so far. That's miles better than we're managing - we're only at around 60% first jab.
It's hard to see what would account for such a big difference. The government and PHE should try to find out.
Spain is massively more dependent on tourism than the UK. And pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaraunts.
By contrast, Brits not going on vacation increases demand for restaurant meals.
Come on Nabavi, this isn't rocket surgery.
Yes, exactly, pretty much all of those tourists eat in restaurants, which are mostly rubbish restaurants aimed at tourists. Sure, they're cheap, but if you're a tourist in Spain and don't know have local knowledge about where to go, you've got a pretty good chance of getting a meal which is mediocre at best, and worse than the equivalents in Italy, Greece, or even France.
Where is this local knowledge of which you speak available? Is it some well fed señor on an esquina tapping his nose and whispering out the name of establishments to the select few?
For anyone remotely interested there's a whole world of information out there on good places to eat in Spain.
Has anyone ever seen @Leon and Trump in the same room?
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction that China would top the golds looks to be spot on - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team).
I've been too afraid to ask @Leon or anyone else but...what exactly does 'woke' mean?
Now you're just gaslighting us.
Seriously. What does it mean?
If you substitute "political correctness gone mad", controlling for grammar, you will get a pretty good idea.
ie it means anything that any right-thinking (esp. a Felix-type old, white, Tory) person finds objectionable about today's society.
tha't the second time you have referenced colour to make a dig. Try substituting another colour and see what it looks like.
Well off old pink Tory blokes completely bewildered at newfangled "marketing" by Labour.
Looks just fine.
As a gay Tory I resent that on many more levels - especially as my Mediterranean tan has not a hint of pink about it.
What about it is it that you resent?
Simply that you seem to think you're totally tuned in to your Liberal vibe while you're just as full of the same old prejudices and stereotypes as the rest of us and completely unaware of it. I'm old, white, gay and proud - in your world all three seem to justify slurs and sneers. Clueless.
That was some leap. You're an old, white, Tory. As are so many on PB.
It was not a huge deductive leap for me to work out that that was what you are. And I was right. Oh and you're gay, thanks for telling me.
And old, white, (gay or not gay) Tories have shown themselves to be bewildered by Lab's latest marketing strategy or rather, by Jon Trickett's tweet.
Get over yourself and embrace the truth would be my advice.
Apparently it was pretty hard for you to understand the other day that I also voted remain. Maybe you could try removing your own blinkered views about race/age/sexuality before handing out unsolicited advice to others.
Jeez if leaping to conclusions was an Olympic sport you would win gold ("gold" is ok to use, is it?).
The other day you said you loathed the EU. Which is pretty funny as you live in the EU regardless of how you voted although if I were using my Sherlock Holmes powers again (easy when it comes to you) I would say you voted Remain because you wanted the EU to maintain links to your homeland rather than anything else and if so fair enough.
And now, because I correctly identify the preponderance of old, white, Tory PB-ers, of which you are one such, I have blinkered views about race/age/sexuality [??].
You are an old, white, Tory who can't understand a tweet aimed at Lab's supporters who include many people who are old and white but perhaps not so many as Cons' supporters or PB denizens.
You are looking to be outraged where there is no reason to be outraged.
And you are pretty thick it seems. Once you use any 'ism' to sneer as you do you give carte 'noir' [sic] for all of it. For the record I understand the tweet - not completely gaga - just think it is pretty lame, like your attempts to gloss over your prejudices. Clearly you don't get it and never will. Such is life.
"Island in north Scotland". How to choke up the local transport. Or does he know something about the missile range on Benbecula, or RAF Saxa Vord, we don't?
You can bet he's not talking about Orkney or Shetland
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As prosecutors in Manhattan continue their investigation into the Trump Organization's finances, attorneys in Scotland are citing its progress to advocate for opening a parallel investigation into how the former US president's company financed golf courses in the country.
Both of Trump's Scottish golf resorts have posted losses continuously since Trump has run them and owe millions of pounds to creditors. Harvie in February questioned how Trump was able to purchase both resorts between 2006 and 2014. Avaaz said Trump purchased both as part of a $400 million spending spree, which raised questions about how he had financed the deals.
https://www.businessinsider.com/scottish-lawmakers-may-investigate-trump-organization-mcmafia-order-2021-8?amp
Sheekey's has basically doubled.
I guess they are relying on a lot of diners with savings willing to splurge, but it cannot last
She started writing them in the 80's, and kept on going for decades, still setting them in the 80s. Quite the nostalgia trip.
https://www.polishnews.co.uk/skateboarding-to-breakdancing-the-urban-sports-making-the-olympics-young-again-world-news/
"browsing" an olympic sport apparently... (Think they meant surfing) ?
https://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=36cdcb0b-7cfa-4b55-8704-d1f02a9fe6e5
Don't believe it myself but last three polls have been very much against the idea Newsom is safe
When I was there, we only had a football team. But it was no longer a grammar school by then.
As privacy is so hard to keep in the electronic leaking era and trust or loyalty are almost nonexistent in acolytes, appointed employees and past associates, there may be a considerable cohort who think
'in your place I would do the same'
I think I would. It is a dirty game this leaking business, and plausible deniability is useful.
Looks just fine.
Liberté, égalité, fraternité.
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French constitutional court backs President Macron's Covid pass
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1423285439876583428
As for the rest, pass, there's talk of moving to budget to next year now.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/16/covid-impact-forces-sunak-to-consider-delaying-budget-until-next-year
I think the speed round has to be on plastic as it needs two identical "versus" walls but the lead and bouldering would be great to see on real rocks.
@EricTopol
The striking relationship between vaccination and hospitalization in US states.
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1423269949384974338
FTFY.
It was not a huge deductive leap for me to work out that that was what you are. And I was right. Oh and you're gay, thanks for telling me.
And old, white, (gay or not gay) Tories have shown themselves to be bewildered by Lab's latest marketing strategy or rather, by Jon Trickett's tweet.
Get over yourself and embrace the truth would be my advice.
By contrast, Brits not going on vacation increases demand for restaurant meals.
Come on Nabavi, this isn't rocket surgery.
That’s them told
I mean, just get rid of the NI exemption for pensionable age workers for starters.
And it's mid-afternoon, and the thread is STILL talking about it.
Though I do have to admit, Leon's prediction ("The USA [are most woke], and they will come second behind no-nonsense, get-things-done, what-the-fuck-is-knee-taking China") - as I noted at the time, the odds were attractive (but I followed my rule of not betting on things that I don't know much about, here the strength of the Chinese team - and given my limited knowledge I wasn't sure that even those odds were value).
Jeez if leaping to conclusions was an Olympic sport you would win gold ("gold" is ok to use, is it?).
The other day you said you loathed the EU. Which is pretty funny as you live in the EU regardless of how you voted although if I were using my Sherlock Holmes powers again (easy when it comes to you) I would say you voted Remain because you wanted the EU to maintain links to your homeland rather than anything else and if so fair enough.
And now, because I correctly identify the preponderance of old, white, Tory PB-ers, of which you are one such, I have blinkered views about race/age/sexuality [??].
You are an old, white, Tory who can't understand a tweet aimed at Lab's supporters who include many people who are old and white but perhaps not so many as Cons' supporters or PB denizens.
You are looking to be outraged where there is no reason to be outraged.
What about occupational pensions? will you include those in the NI take?
It's come to mean anything and everything about the modern world that irritates blokes who'd prefer to live in the 1950s version of it.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/womens-olympic-tournament/story/4446142/olympics-2020-sweden-vs-canada-gold-medal-match-moved-due-to-heat-concerns
The Tokyo 2020 women's Olympic soccer gold-medal match between Canada and Sweden has been moved from its 11 a.m. local time on Friday (10 p.m. ET, Thursday) start to 9 p.m. local time (8 a.m. ET, Friday) after both teams expressed concern about playing in the Japanese heat.
Would have been interesting to see if this would have happened with the USA in the final given that the kick off time was clearly set to appeal to the US market.
Like Frank Field is the Tories' Labourite.
'Would you pay £87 for Tom Kerridge’s steak and chips?'
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/would-you-pay-87-for-tom-kerridges-steak-and-chips-vhmr8pnp7
It's hard to see what would account for such a big difference. The government and PHE should try to find out.
For anyone remotely interested there's a whole world of information out there on good places to eat in Spain.
ie it means anything that any right-thinking (esp. a Felix-type old, white, Tory) person finds objectionable about today's society.
Equal rights, against racism, pro-diverse, etc.