"Would you do it?" and "Do you think it's justified?" could become big polling questions in the near future. For all their commitment to "freedom", I don't think much of the press will be advocating "Turn that baby off".
PS Malcolm, think of how proud you will be if it turns out Scotland held the eventual winners to a draw.
at least we don't have a full set of divers, we lose with dignity and don't want to win by cheating. Just what I would expect on here , no morals and no principles.
Penalties are too easily awarded and too easy to change a whole match.
Given the risk-reward ratio, why wouldn't you dive in the box?
Maybe if you were a sportsman and had some principles.
I don't think footballers areany less intrinsically moral than any other sportsmen. But most sports are set up such that if you cheat,and get caught, the outcome will be worse than not cheating. Football on the other hand is almost designed to reward cheating. It's what makes it such a frustrating sport.
I said earlier I don't really take any pleasure from seeing England win any more. Can't connect to it emotionally any more. I do get pain from watching them labour though. But I am enjoying watching people here get pleasure from England winning. And I am also enjoying malcolmg's anger about it. In between, no doubt, wheeling out a fresh batch of scones.
I said earlier I don't really take any pleasure from seeing England win any more. Can't connect to it emotionally any more. I do get pain from watching them labour though. But I am enjoying watching people here get pleasure from England winning. And I am also enjoying malcolmg's anger about it. In between, no doubt, wheeling out a fresh batch of scones.
I said earlier I don't really take any pleasure from seeing England win any more. Can't connect to it emotionally any more. I do get pain from watching them labour though. But I am enjoying watching people here get pleasure from England winning. And I am also enjoying malcolmg's anger about it. In between, no doubt, wheeling out a fresh batch of scones.
Afraid I am quaffing a nice red. Had a lovely meal out today mind you. Long time since I had a scone.
So what happens about the final? BBC or ITV - presumably both? Will be interesting to see how England manage to cruise it on BBC while labouring painfully on ITV.
So what happens about the final? BBC or ITV - presumably both? Will be interesting to see how England manage to cruise it on BBC while labouring painfully on ITV.
So what happens about the final? BBC or ITV - presumably both? Will be interesting to see how England manage to cruise it on BBC while labouring painfully on ITV.
They usually both show the final, so you can listen to the least annoying commentators, lol.
I couldn't watch the game. As I said previously I am not a great football fan - after all I am a life long West Ham fan . But one of the reasons for that is I can't take the tension. I find watching football if I have any interest vested in one side or another hugely frustrating and in the end it is just bad for my health. So whilst my wife and son watched this evening I went for my long walk as I do almost every night and listened to Chekov's The Seagull.
But I am glad England won - actually I am delighted - because it makes so many other people happy.
I also find the comments by Malcolm to be revealing. Whilst I share his political views on Scotland, he always claims he is not driven by anti-English sentiment. And yet everything he ever writes on here betrays him. And tonight has been a classic. It makes me think less of him which is a shame.
So what happens about the final? BBC or ITV - presumably both? Will be interesting to see how England manage to cruise it on BBC while labouring painfully on ITV.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
For once England got the rub of the green in a big match. Better team and deserved to win, but Denmark tactics matched up well against England and Kasper was fantastic in goal for the Danes.
So what happens about the final? BBC or ITV - presumably both? Will be interesting to see how England manage to cruise it on BBC while labouring painfully on ITV.
Depends if the BBC have an all-female commentary team...
Just one point....how has Foden sat on the bench for so much of the tournament. He came on and was just too good for Denmark, much more dangerous than Grealish.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
A Denmark with Eriksen fit would have been a handful for sure.
All praise the Knee Takers. No, really. Southgate has made me look a fool, and I couldn't be happier
Great team, great manager, great sensation
Good man.
I still don't like "the knee" because of its associations with horrible Marxist BLM gibberish
However I now see what Southgate was doing: he used it to bond his team together - WE WILL DO THIS - and cement the fraternal loyalty of a multi-racial squad (who are genuinely admirable in their good sense and eloquence)
That's brilliant man management. That's why he's taking England to a final and I'm just a silly old fool, happily drunk in Majorca. But I am happily drunk
It's also great for Southgate the man. He has exorcised the ghost of THAT penalty. What a story, ending 25 years later!!
There was a time England used to refuse penalties when the ref thought they should have one. Didn't Fowler do it once? I support England but sad to see both the front two renowned deservedly for being divers . No chance of wining any fair play awards these days .
I’ll watch the build up on ITV as they have better pundits. But it’ll have to be Mowbray and Samantha Janus for the match itself. Feel so sorry for Clive Tyldesley.
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
For once England got the rub of the green in a big match. Better team and deserved to win, but Denmark tactics matched up well against England and Kasper was fantastic in goal for the Danes.
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"Would you do it?" and "Do you think it's justified?" could become big polling questions in the near future. For all their commitment to "freedom", I don't think much of the press will be advocating "Turn that baby off".
PS Malcolm, think of how proud you will be if it turns out Scotland held the eventual winners to a draw.
But I am enjoying watching people here get pleasure from England winning. And I am also enjoying malcolmg's anger about it. In between, no doubt, wheeling out a fresh batch of scones.
Thoughts and prayers for Lozza Fox.
First final in 55 years, and it’s at Wembley. In front of a full house!
Disgust is a great motivator.
But I am glad England won - actually I am delighted - because it makes so many other people happy.
I also find the comments by Malcolm to be revealing. Whilst I share his political views on Scotland, he always claims he is not driven by anti-English sentiment. And yet everything he ever writes on here betrays him. And tonight has been a classic. It makes me think less of him which is a shame.
Their players moved within a metre of England's wall, so the referee screwed that up.
Last one I was in utero in a bar in Munich!
Set me up for life.
2021...
Just sayin'
Great team, great manager, great sensation
Oh my god - what a night
There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time.
A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
The right result stil.
Tomorrow I need to get a pub table - then I need to cancel the training I was supposed to deliver on Monday
You win some, you lose some with tight refereeing calls. All in all a wash.
England was (after a pretty dodgy spell in the first half) the better team and deserved to win.
Italy have far too much street cred for this decent, but limited, English side.
However I now see what Southgate was doing: he used it to bond his team together - WE WILL DO THIS - and cement the fraternal loyalty of a multi-racial squad (who are genuinely admirable in their good sense and eloquence)
That's brilliant man management. That's why he's taking England to a final and I'm just a silly old fool, happily drunk in Majorca. But I am happily drunk
It's also great for Southgate the man. He has exorcised the ghost of THAT penalty. What a story, ending 25 years later!!
Wow. That's professional dedication.
We've reached the SF of the last world cup and the final of the Euros in the space of three years.
You have a strange definition of limited.
You were right. Southgate took us to the final.
However I reckon he might now go the whole way. The biggest hoodoo has been lifted
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As Hamlet said: fucking hell