There was a time England used to refuse penalties when the ref thought they should have one. Didn't Fowler do it once? I support England but sad to see both the front two renowned deservedly for being divers . No chance of wining any fair play awards these days .
What decade was that? Players shouldn't dive, but it's the job of the officials, who can even now have their decisions checked, to make the calls, not the players.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
To be honest, dig into the data and the curse of ITV is more apparent if you only look at regular time. I think England have squeaked through extra time/penalties a couple of times on ITV.
It's actually more qualitative. Even when England win on ITV, it's never comfortable. It's just squeaking through against Trinidad and Tobago.
Objectively, I know there can be no reason for this. And yet.
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
It’s a shame that the BBC made Mowbray number one. Wilson was brilliant last night on Italy v Spain. Both him and Mowbray are very good, but Wilson is just so much more upbeat.
There was a time England used to refuse penalties when the ref thought they should have one. Didn't Fowler do it once? I support England but sad to see both the front two renowned deservedly for being divers . No chance of wining any fair play awards these days .
What decade was that? Players shouldn't dive, but it's the job of the officials, who can even now have their decisions checked, to make the calls, not the players.
Burglars shouldn't burgle, but it's the job of the police, not the burglars, to make the call. Not sure this argument holds up.
For once England got the rub of the green in a big match. Better team and deserved to win, but Denmark tactics matched up well against England and Kasper was fantastic in goal for the Danes.
Casper was absolutely superb.
Great save from sterling, but he should have done better.
There was a time England used to refuse penalties when the ref thought they should have one. Didn't Fowler do it once? I support England but sad to see both the front two renowned deservedly for being divers . No chance of wining any fair play awards these days .
What decade was that? Players shouldn't dive, but it's the job of the officials, who can even now have their decisions checked, to make the calls, not the players.
well call me old fashioned but whilst that is correct , the players should not actively cheat . Look at all the bile from English fans Steve Smith got for cheating in cricket . Its hard to think highly of England tonight tbh
The breaking news update on the BBC said for the first time in 55 years the England men's team are into the final of a major tournament - are the women's team better? I tend to assume the USA team probably win it every time.
Game too far for the Danes, like Wales in 2016. Italy have far too much street cred for this decent, but limited, English side.
Limited?
We've reached the SF of the last world cup and the final of the Euros in the space of three years.
You have a strange definition of limited.
Yes, this is really not a "limited" English team. I've spent decades watching limited England teams. I am old enough to remember watching Bob Latchford
THAT is a limited English team
This squad oozes talent. They have won the U-21 and U-17 World Cups in recent years, for good reason. The Premier League is finally repaying the nation. These are tremendous footballers. Arguably, the cautious Southgate has not got anything like the best from them. But maybe he's a better coach than me and realises that first he has to give them confidence they can do it - he is doing that
If we don't win this we will be in there for the World Cup, for sure
There was a time England used to refuse penalties when the ref thought they should have one. Didn't Fowler do it once? I support England but sad to see both the front two renowned deservedly for being divers . No chance of wining any fair play awards these days .
What decade was that? Players shouldn't dive, but it's the job of the officials, who can even now have their decisions checked, to make the calls, not the players.
Burglars shouldn't burgle, but it's the job of the police, not the burglars, to make the call. Not sure this argument holds up.
I'm a fan of stretching analogies, but the difference is one is a game where the officials are constantly monitoring all the participants, with the aid of video cameras following every single second from around 10 different angles as well, with their sole purpose being to instantly catch any cheaters or rule breakers - if the police had that level of monitoring of every citizen (but don't give them the idea) and nothing else to do then it would be on their shoulders if they somehow missed a crime.
That 5 minutes of keep-ball from England to run down the clock was something I've never seen an England team do, and didn't think they could do. Strangely, that impressed me more than the attacking flair.
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
The ITV coverage is good for having the ref on to explain the refereeing decisions, and I've not heard better explanations of tactical changes and the balance of the game than from Emma Hayes. But in general I find their commentators much more annoying, though the standard these days seems to be a lot lower than it was some years ago. Though the commentator tonight did have us in stitches with laughter before half-time when he said "A goal now for England would be... ... .. good."
The BBC coverage doesn't have the ads, so you can see the assumed formations for the starting elevens before kick-off.
There was a time England used to refuse penalties when the ref thought they should have one. Didn't Fowler do it once? I support England but sad to see both the front two renowned deservedly for being divers . No chance of wining any fair play awards these days .
What decade was that? Players shouldn't dive, but it's the job of the officials, who can even now have their decisions checked, to make the calls, not the players.
well call me old fashioned but whilst that is correct , the players should not actively cheat . Look at all the bile from English fans Steve Smith got for cheating in cricket . Its hard to think highly of England tonight tbh
Pretty sure I said players shouldn't dive as well. I wish officials did a much better job at calling out divers for teams I support (Liverpool are pretty bad for diving), as while some calls are 50/50, most are not but officials seem scared of calling people cheats.
The breaking news update on the BBC said for the first time in 55 years the England men's team are into the final of a major tournament - are the women's team better? I tend to assume the USA team probably win it every time.
USA always struggle to progress far in the Womens European Championship for some reason ;-)
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
The ITV coverage is good for having the ref on to explain the refereeing decisions, and I've not heard better explanations of tactical changes and the balance of the game than from Emma Hayes. But in general I find their commentators much more annoying, though the standard these days seems to be a lot lower than it was some years ago. Though the commentator tonight did have us in stitches with laughter before half-time when he said "A goal now for England would be... ... .. good."
The BBC coverage doesn't have the ads, so you can see the assumed formations for the starting elevens before kick-off.
I believe he said "fingered by Jordan Pickford" at one point. Just no.
sorry it was Fowler refusing the penalty given to him but he was playing at the time for Liverpool not England. anyway doubt you woudl see it today. More the pity .
I am so happy for Gareth Southgate - the man is a legend and a LEADER.
Gary Neville said it as it is. The pea brained right-wing thickos that live on this blog will throw their arms up but he said the truth.
You just had to be a dick head at the end ....
On cue, a pea brain right-wing thicko turns up! Sighs....
You're not seriously objecting to a counter insult to your insult? That'd be like Dura Ace asking people to tone down their language as he's a delicate flower.
For once England got the rub of the green in a big match. Better team and deserved to win, but Denmark tactics matched up well against England and Kasper was fantastic in goal for the Danes.
Casper was absolutely superb.
Blooded on the muddy fields of the SPL. Was hoping for a last minute set piece with Kasper up to head an equaliser.
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
The ITV coverage is good for having the ref on to explain the refereeing decisions, and I've not heard better explanations of tactical changes and the balance of the game than from Emma Hayes. But in general I find their commentators much more annoying, though the standard these days seems to be a lot lower than it was some years ago. Though the commentator tonight did have us in stitches with laughter before half-time when he said "A goal now for England would be... ... .. good."
The BBC coverage doesn't have the ads, so you can see the assumed formations for the starting elevens before kick-off.
I believe he said "fingered by Jordan Pickford" at one point. Just no.
The breaking news update on the BBC said for the first time in 55 years the England men's team are into the final of a major tournament - are the women's team better? I tend to assume the USA team probably win it every time.
USA always struggle to progress far in the Womens European Championship for some reason ;-)
I don't regard the European Championships as a major tournament.
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That 5 minutes of keep-ball from England to run down the clock was something I've never seen an England team do, and didn't think they could do. Strangely, that impressed me more than the attacking flair.
Absolutely. To the point the crowd were singing ole. That’s what you want to see from a team a goal up.
I am so happy for Gareth Southgate - the man is a legend and a LEADER.
Gary Neville said it as it is. The pea brained right-wing thickos that live on this blog will throw their arms up but he said the truth.
You just had to be a dick head at the end ....
On cue, a pea brain right-wing thicko turns up! Sighs....
You're not seriously objecting to a counter insult to your insult? That'd be like Dura Ace asking people to tone down their language as he's a delicate flower.
His posts constantly show him up for the type of person he is
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
How can you not take pleasure from THIS???!!
It's superb
It was painful, laboured. England were the better team but you come out of it thinking they won because of outside forces, which is never a nice feeling in sport.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
That 5 minutes of keep-ball from England to run down the clock was something I've never seen an England team do, and didn't think they could do. Strangely, that impressed me more than the attacking flair.
Yes, for so many years England managers have tried to get the players able to play a patient game when needed and as soon as they try it they just wind up stuck in pedestrian and then pretty soon start giving the ball away and getting into trouble.
Except against Scotland, where we did fall into that trap to a degree, we've had pretty good control over the pace of a game.
According to wiki Southgate has the third highest win percentage of any England manager. And the top one doesn't count as it was Allardyce with 1 win from 1 game.
The breaking news update on the BBC said for the first time in 55 years the England men's team are into the final of a major tournament - are the women's team better? I tend to assume the USA team probably win it every time.
I was in a bar when England played the USA in the womens World Cup a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, I was the only Brit in there.
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
The ITV coverage is good for having the ref on to explain the refereeing decisions, and I've not heard better explanations of tactical changes and the balance of the game than from Emma Hayes. But in general I find their commentators much more annoying, though the standard these days seems to be a lot lower than it was some years ago. Though the commentator tonight did have us in stitches with laughter before half-time when he said "A goal now for England would be... ... .. good."
The BBC coverage doesn't have the ads, so you can see the assumed formations for the starting elevens before kick-off.
I believe he said "fingered by Jordan Pickford" at one point. Just no.
Huddersfield forward Kenny Edwards has been banned for 10 matches for putting his finger up the bottom of an opponent.
A move pioneered by John Hopoate. Kenny Edwards. One of the most skilful forwards in the game. Never lasts long at one club. For good reason. That's why he's at Huddersfield and not NRL where he ought to be.
I actually think ITV's coverage shades it over BBC's nowadays. BBC a bit complacent, smug. I like Mark Pougatch, though he has an air of desperation when he introduces England - he is as aware of the curse as anyone else. Commentators are inane but probably no more so than on the BBC.
The ITV coverage is good for having the ref on to explain the refereeing decisions, and I've not heard better explanations of tactical changes and the balance of the game than from Emma Hayes. But in general I find their commentators much more annoying, though the standard these days seems to be a lot lower than it was some years ago. Though the commentator tonight did have us in stitches with laughter before half-time when he said "A goal now for England would be... ... .. good."
The BBC coverage doesn't have the ads, so you can see the assumed formations for the starting elevens before kick-off.
I believe he said "fingered by Jordan Pickford" at one point. Just no.
Yes, and there were two "misfields" too, which seemed a bit weird, where miskicked would be much better.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
How can you not take pleasure from THIS???!!
It's superb
It was painful, laboured. England were the better team but you come out of it thinking they won because of outside forces, which is never a nice feeling in sport.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
It was a tight game between two good sides for the first 70 minutes before England utterly dominated for the last forty. We could have won it by a couple more was it not for the excellent Kaspar Schmeichel. We probed, we moved the ball around, we dribbled and we got a legitimate penalty. Righties whining about an anti-racism gesture is the same as lefties whining about poppy wearing.
And one of the most analytically advanced clubs in the world....known for football moneyball, identifying excellent talent otherwise missed by others...that Brentford.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
How can you not take pleasure from THIS???!!
It's superb
It was painful, laboured. England were the better team but you come out of it thinking they won because of outside forces, which is never a nice feeling in sport.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
Much as I respect your opinion on this an£ other things, I don’t think I am watching the same game. We created oodles of chances, Sterling should have scored one on one, And generally we played with a growing maturity as the game wore on. The way we saw out the last few minutes was superb, and note not with fouls and fake injuries like the Italians. We may not win on Sunday, but I don’t care. Semi in the last World Cup, final now with a young exciting side. Glorious.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
How can you not take pleasure from THIS???!!
It's superb
It was painful, laboured. England were the better team but you come out of it thinking they won because of outside forces, which is never a nice feeling in sport.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
That's a shame. The knee thing annoys me too, and the politicisation of football (from both sides) is getting worse, however this is a properly admirable and talented England side, that deserves its place in the final, and my God I've waited all my adult life to feel this serenity: and I am damn well going to enjoy it
That 5 minutes of keep-ball from England to run down the clock was something I've never seen an England team do, and didn't think they could do. Strangely, that impressed me more than the attacking flair.
Absolutely. To the point the crowd were singing ole.
I thought that was not permitted after Brexit - international cultural standardisation and all that. They should have sung 'good show, chaps' instead.
Game too far for the Danes, like Wales in 2016. Italy have far too much street cred for this decent, but limited, English side.
Limited?
We've reached the SF of the last world cup and the final of the Euros in the space of three years.
You have a strange definition of limited.
Yes, this is really not a "limited" English team. I've spent decades watching limited England teams. I am old enough to remember watching Bob Latchford
THAT is a limited English team
This squad oozes talent. They have won the U-21 and U-17 World Cups in recent years, for good reason. The Premier League is finally repaying the nation. These are tremendous footballers. Arguably, the cautious Southgate has not got anything like the best from them. But maybe he's a better coach than me and realises that first he has to give them confidence they can do it - he is doing that
If we don't win this we will be in there for the World Cup, for sure
Yes, I'd say for the first time I can remember England are as talented as anyone else who started the tournament. At the last World Cup they made the semis but without really convincing that they deserved to be there. This year, to my surprise, they've been as good as anyone. They certainly didn;t cruise today; but no-one cruises every time.
That 5 minutes of keep-ball from England to run down the clock was something I've never seen an England team do, and didn't think they could do. Strangely, that impressed me more than the attacking flair.
Absolutely. To the point the crowd were singing ole.
I thought that was not permitted after Brexit - international cultural standardisation and all that. They should have sung 'good show, chaps' instead.
Indeed. And England should have just given the ball away after three passes - it's the British way.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
How can you not take pleasure from THIS???!!
It's superb
It was painful, laboured. England were the better team but you come out of it thinking they won because of outside forces, which is never a nice feeling in sport.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
It was a tight game between two good sides for the first 70 minutes before England utterly dominated for the last forty. We could have won it by a couple more was it not for the excellent Kaspar Schmeichel. We probed, we moved the ball around, we dribbled and we got a legitimate penalty. Righties whining about an anti-racism gesture is the same as lefties whining about poppy wearing.
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I agree with Sandy and others: the period when we played Ole football was possibly the most impressive bit of all
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
England now have possibly the best collection of young talent in Europe. Mount, Foden, Sancho, Bellingham, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Rashford....I could go on....we really aren't the sick man of Europe kick it and rush, if you spill my pint I will bite your legs...we have seriousky world class technical players.
While it's difficult to take too much pleasure from that, it should be remembered that everyone's had narrow squeaks. Italy only just made it past Spain, and indeed only just made it past Austria, I think. Spain laboured all the way to the semis. France and Germany didn't even make it that far. There is very rarely a tournament in which a team has it all their own way, all the time. A shame for Denmark, what with the Christian Eriksen subplot. But they won it back in 1992. Give someone else a turn.
How can you not take pleasure from THIS???!!
It's superb
It was painful, laboured. England were the better team but you come out of it thinking they won because of outside forces, which is never a nice feeling in sport.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
It was a tight game between two good sides for the first 70 minutes before England utterly dominated for the last forty. We could have won it by a couple more was it not for the excellent Kaspar Schmeichel. We probed, we moved the ball around, we dribbled and we got a legitimate penalty. Righties whining about an anti-racism gesture is the same as lefties whining about poppy wearing.
I think he looks worse there because he is, inexplicably, wearing the replica shirt over a dress shirt. I cannot fathom why you would want to do that at all.
I agree with Sandy and others: the period when we played Ole football was possibly the most impressive bit of all
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
England now have possibly the best collection of young talent in Europe. Mount, Foden, Sancho, Bellingham, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Rashford....I could go on....we really aren't the sick man of Europe kick it and rush, if you spill my pint I will bite your legs...we have seriousky world class technical players.
Yes. The two most talented squads in Europe (the world?) are England and France
I think he looks worse there because he is, inexplicably, wearing the replica shirt over a dress shirt. I cannot fathom why you would want to do that at all.
I agree with Sandy and others: the period when we played Ole football was possibly the most impressive bit of all
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
England now have possibly the best collection of young talent in Europe. Mount, Foden, Sancho, Bellingham, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Rashford....I could go on....we really aren't the sick man of Europe kick it and rush, if you spill my pint I will bite your legs...we have seriousky world class technical players.
Yes. The two most talented squads in Europe (the world?) are England and France
When Foden came on - my God. He's brilliant
Watch the clips from the England training sessions....if Messi or Ronaldo was doing the stuff he casually does, people would be saying greatest player evvvvvvvverrrrr...and he is still a kid.
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
Yep, I am sure all Danes are particularly pleased for us (!)
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
I am being kept awake by drivers hooting their horns and drunk people yelling "it's fookin coming home." My wife won't let me join in the fun by yelling back that if they don't shut up they won't be going home.
Anyway as a non football fan, I'm happy for the people who are into it, but for god's sake I wish they'd be less obnoxious about it. I'm certainly not getting much joy.
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
English players are role models.
Scottish players are degenerates.
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I agree with Sandy and others: the period when we played Ole football was possibly the most impressive bit of all
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
England now have possibly the best collection of young talent in Europe. Mount, Foden, Sancho, Bellingham, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Rashford....I could go on....we really aren't the sick man of Europe kick it and rush, if you spill my pint I will bite your legs...we have seriousky world class technical players.
Yes. The two most talented squads in Europe (the world?) are England and France
When Foden came on - my God. He's brilliant
I don't quite understand how this happened. England had the golden generation, who never really achieved anything, and then when they retired about 2010 the cupboard seemed almost laughably bare. Prospects for England ever being any good again seemed remote. Our kids were no longer interested in football, we were told - didn't play it in the streets any more, all the playing fields being built over. They even lost to Iceland in 2016. And now look - the most talented young squad in Europe.
Presumably this hasn't happened by accident. Presumably a lot of work has gone into youth development. The results are very impressive.
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
English players are role models.
Scottish players are degenerates.
Claims Leigh Griffiths sent flirty messages to 15-year-old girl being probed by cops
The Scotland international is accused of sending a string of private messages on Instagram to the young footballer who plays for a premiership side.
I agree with Sandy and others: the period when we played Ole football was possibly the most impressive bit of all
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
England now have possibly the best collection of young talent in Europe. Mount, Foden, Sancho, Bellingham, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Rashford....I could go on....we really aren't the sick man of Europe kick it and rush, if you spill my pint I will bite your legs...we have seriousky world class technical players.
Yes. The two most talented squads in Europe (the world?) are England and France
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
English players are role models.
Scottish players are degenerates.
Claims Leigh Griffiths sent flirty messages to 15-year-old girl being probed by cops
The Scotland international is accused of sending a string of private messages on Instagram to the young footballer who plays for a premiership side.
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
I am being kept awake by drivers hooting their horns and drunk people yelling "it's fookin coming home." My wife won't let me join in the fun by yelling back that if they don't shut up they won't be going home.
Anyway as a non football fan, I'm happy for the people who are into it, but for god's sake I wish they'd be less obnoxious about it. I'm certainly not getting much joy.
Meh, big tournaments come up every couple of years, it's not a big deal. And as 10s of millions watch the games at tournaments (I was not amongst them), it reaches a tipping point where it is going to impact people who don't watch or care (same reason I finally got into Line of Duty)
I agree with Sandy and others: the period when we played Ole football was possibly the most impressive bit of all
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
England now have possibly the best collection of young talent in Europe. Mount, Foden, Sancho, Bellingham, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Greenwood, Rashford....I could go on....we really aren't the sick man of Europe kick it and rush, if you spill my pint I will bite your legs...we have seriousky world class technical players.
Yes. The two most talented squads in Europe (the world?) are England and France
When Foden came on - my God. He's brilliant
I don't quite understand how this happened. England had the golden generation, who never really achieved anything, and then when they retired about 2010 the cupboard seemed almost laughably bare. Prospects for England ever being any good again seemed remote. Our kids were no longer interested in football, we were told - didn't play it in the streets any more, all the playing fields being built over. They even lost to Iceland in 2016. And now look - the most talented young squad in Europe.
Presumably this hasn't happened by accident. Presumably a lot of work has gone into youth development. The results are very impressive.
Highly professional academy system and influx of foreign managers with their weird continental ways of working on players technical abilites and also much more advanced tactical systems.
The whole world shares in England's joy. That's what I'm feeling tonight. Even from Scotland. Just a glorious altruistic love for England and all that we are: the noblest nation on earth
I am being kept awake by drivers hooting their horns and drunk people yelling "it's fookin coming home." My wife won't let me join in the fun by yelling back that if they don't shut up they won't be going home.
Anyway as a non football fan, I'm happy for the people who are into it, but for god's sake I wish they'd be less obnoxious about it. I'm certainly not getting much joy.
Meh, big tournaments come up every couple of years, it's not a big deal. And as 10s of millions watch the games at tournaments (I was not amongst them), it reaches a tipping point where it is going to impact people who don't watch or care (same reason I finally got into Line of Duty)
Other people should just put up with being disturbed? I can't agree with that.
What the f*ck is ITV on about, our performance against Germany and Ukraine was miles better
But not on ITV. Best performance televised by ITV for ages. Just unfortunately less good than most of the England performances on BBC.
I don't want to be labouring this point, though I am. It is ridiculous to believe in it. But the stats are surely well outside the bounds of happened by coincidence. I know correlation doesn't equal causation. But there is clear correlation.
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It's superb
Not sure this argument holds up.
I am so happy for Gareth Southgate - the man is a legend and a LEADER.
Gary Neville said it as it is. The pea brained right-wing thickos that live on this blog will throw their arms up but he said the truth.
THAT is a limited English team
This squad oozes talent. They have won the U-21 and U-17 World Cups in recent years, for good reason. The Premier League is finally repaying the nation. These are tremendous footballers. Arguably, the cautious Southgate has not got anything like the best from them. But maybe he's a better coach than me and realises that first he has to give them confidence they can do it - he is doing that
If we don't win this we will be in there for the World Cup, for sure
But it wasn't a dive either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/23963416
Pros for England.
At home and decent.
Cons
Italy are more streetwise than England.
Chiellini and Bonucci would rather kill their grannies than a concede a goal.
Choice of referee will be important.
The BBC coverage doesn't have the ads, so you can see the assumed formations for the starting elevens before kick-off.
Just no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUrcX6kpkU0
Was hoping for a last minute set piece with Kasper up to head an equaliser.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1412878170773082113
Huddersfield forward Kenny Edwards has been banned for 10 matches for putting his finger up the bottom of an opponent.
Well, not until tonight anyway.
Professor Robert Dingwall, of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, said that given how mild illness was in teenagers, vaccines had to be “exceptionally safe” not to do more harm than good."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/children-better-off-catching-covid-naturally-than-having-a-jab-xx7kmwxrd
Magnificent stuff from England.
Come.
On.
But I'm please to see people so pleased. I'm pleased my friends and family are pleased, I'm pleased the English on here are pleased, I'm glad to see Wembley full of happy people.
But I just can't connect emotionally with it any more. Maybe it is the knee thing.Its certainly annoying to have each England victory now presented by lefties as a victory for their brand of politics. It's quite difficult to get behind a team who get so close to supporting BLM. But, you know, maybe if it hadn't been the knee it would have been something else. This last year has robbed me of my ability to find pleasure in a lot of things that I used to.
But I'm not going to go supporting England's opponents over it. I'll still take an interest, and I'll still be happy for those for whom seeing the ball hit the back of the net goes straight to the emotions without having to pass through the rational brain.
Except against Scotland, where we did fall into that trap to a degree, we've had pretty good control over the pace of a game.
Kenny Edwards. One of the most skilful forwards in the game. Never lasts long at one club.
For good reason.
That's why he's at Huddersfield and not NRL where he ought to be.
I hope you can reconnect with your inner fan
OMFG
They certainly didn;t cruise today; but no-one cruises every time.
It felt like watching a supremely confident German or Italian side in their pomp, and that is high praise
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1412877389974093825?s=19
Like any football fan would.
When Foden came on - my God. He's brilliant
https://twitter.com/macaesbruno/status/1412892897876316167
How did they get up there?
Boris cannot resist either it seems.
Kane, Shaw and Conquered - Norse News Tonight
Mind you he wouldn't have bought Sterling's penalty, so perhaps not.
Anyway as a non football fan, I'm happy for the people who are into it, but for god's sake I wish they'd be less obnoxious about it. I'm certainly not getting much joy.
Scottish players are degenerates.
Claims Leigh Griffiths sent flirty messages to 15-year-old girl being probed by cops
The Scotland international is accused of sending a string of private messages on Instagram to the young footballer who plays for a premiership side.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/claims-leigh-griffiths-sent-flirty-24483537
No wonder Malcolm was so grumpy earlier on tonight.
England had the golden generation, who never really achieved anything, and then when they retired about 2010 the cupboard seemed almost laughably bare.
Prospects for England ever being any good again seemed remote. Our kids were no longer interested in football, we were told - didn't play it in the streets any more, all the playing fields being built over.
They even lost to Iceland in 2016.
And now look - the most talented young squad in Europe.
Presumably this hasn't happened by accident. Presumably a lot of work has gone into youth development. The results are very impressive.
I'm talking about the present day.
Best performance televised by ITV for ages.
Just unfortunately less good than most of the England performances on BBC.
I don't want to be labouring this point, though I am. It is ridiculous to believe in it. But the stats are surely well outside the bounds of happened by coincidence. I know correlation doesn't equal causation. But there is clear correlation.
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1412904748362182661?s=19