If uniform national swing (UNS) applies then the Tories will make it three by-election wins out of t
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Sure, and I get that that, and I sympathise. That's shit. But it's not relevant to the effects on weddings in the UK is it? So maybe calling me a 'moron' was a teensy bit unfair?Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.0 -
I hope you're right. But where I live, cases have risen from virtually nothing to 250 in the last week, and you'd struggle to find many folk from the Indian diaspora, or multi-generational households, down here.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot on: if there are six of you who live in a three bedroom terrace, and one of you returned from India with Delta, then all of you will get it. And if little Ahmed went around to his friends house, then that'll be 12 people who now have Delta.DavidL said:
It seems much more likely to me that the delta variant is hitting the parameters of the unvaxxed, multigenerational households that it was seeded in and is finding spread in the more general population with their highish levels of vaccination more difficult. I certainly hope so.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
In less dense, less intergenerational, more vaccinated communities, spread is much much lower.
If tomorrow's numbers are still at the 7,500 level we can all breath an enormous sigh of relief.0 -
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.4 -
Sad that so many are so coususe, but I assume that will be that many believe the government scientists know best, when cases start dropping, they may change there minds.HYUFD said:Most voters think lifting restrictions on 19th June is 'about right.'
38% About right
26% Too soon
19% Too late
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Sigh
https://twitter.com/MacaesBruno/status/1404763176424677378/photo/1
"The racist legacy many birds carry"
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On those numbers, one possible scenario is we face a series of 'socially distanced' weddings, with bridesmaids in facemasks, and no dancing, with positive tests falling from a very low base.Andy_Cooke said:North West continues to look as if it's flattened out.
It's a massive "if", but if the rate by which the cases growth is increasing continues to drop the way it has been, we could max out around the 21st of June on reported cases, which would be a colossal coincidence.
(At 7000-7500 cases per day for England; 8500-9000 cases per day for the entire UK).
That would equate to something in the region of 250-300 hospitalisations per day for England (300-350 for the UK) and a maximum hospital occupancy of around 1800-2200 for England; 2000-2500 for the UK.
Totally a SWAG figure, if that, but I'd take that right now for the peak.
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Quite - just what is different in this case ......Sandpit said:
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.0 -
Yes, absolutely. I’ve set up the same for dozens of executives forced to work from home in the last 18 months. They all wanted their WFH rooms to look like Joe Rogan’s podcast studio - well maybe not the red one!dixiedean said:
It is bewildering.Sandpit said:I don’t know what GB News are doing, but posting 360p videos on YouTube, complete with the stutters of their own broadcast website it was being ripped from, is a major screwup.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aSdqKfUdmHs
I’m available to help them, remotely, for a bargain £1k a day.
Over the lockdown I have learned, from a standing start, as a reasonably technophobic 50+ yo, to do the cameras and sound mixing of religious services broadcast live over several platforms and recorded for later use. All interactive with real time chat facility.
It is quite laughably easy for one person with almost no knowledge these days.
Actual broadcast TV is an order of magnitude more difficult, but GBN seem to have really missed the mark technically.
They need to go live 1080p on YouTube, yesterday.1 -
Are you in Cornwall ?Northern_Al said:
I hope you're right. But where I live, cases have risen from virtually nothing to 250 in the last week, and you'd struggle to find many folk from the Indian diaspora, or multi-generational households, down here.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot on: if there are six of you who live in a three bedroom terrace, and one of you returned from India with Delta, then all of you will get it. And if little Ahmed went around to his friends house, then that'll be 12 people who now have Delta.DavidL said:
It seems much more likely to me that the delta variant is hitting the parameters of the unvaxxed, multigenerational households that it was seeded in and is finding spread in the more general population with their highish levels of vaccination more difficult. I certainly hope so.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
In less dense, less intergenerational, more vaccinated communities, spread is much much lower.
If tomorrow's numbers are still at the 7,500 level we can all breath an enormous sigh of relief.
Cases up 1250% in St Ives is of interest. G7 superspreader event ?0 -
Jacob Rees-Mogg warns Cabinet colleagues against 'never-ending' restrictions.... will they listen?0
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The lack of glossiness is quite refreshing, paradoxically.dixiedean said:
It is bewildering.Sandpit said:I don’t know what GB News are doing, but posting 360p videos on YouTube, complete with the stutters of their own broadcast website it was being ripped from, is a major screwup.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aSdqKfUdmHs
I’m available to help them, remotely, for a bargain £1k a day.
Over the lockdown I have learned, from a standing start, as a reasonably technophobic 50+ yo, to do the cameras and sound mixing of religious services broadcast live over several platforms and recorded for later use. All interactive with real time chat facility.
It is quite laughably easy for one person with almost no knowledge these days.0 -
No worries about COVID in Hungary...0
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No, Brighton. Could be a delayed effect of a manic Bank Holiday, perhaps.Pulpstar said:
Are you in Cornwall ?Northern_Al said:
I hope you're right. But where I live, cases have risen from virtually nothing to 250 in the last week, and you'd struggle to find many folk from the Indian diaspora, or multi-generational households, down here.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot on: if there are six of you who live in a three bedroom terrace, and one of you returned from India with Delta, then all of you will get it. And if little Ahmed went around to his friends house, then that'll be 12 people who now have Delta.DavidL said:
It seems much more likely to me that the delta variant is hitting the parameters of the unvaxxed, multigenerational households that it was seeded in and is finding spread in the more general population with their highish levels of vaccination more difficult. I certainly hope so.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
In less dense, less intergenerational, more vaccinated communities, spread is much much lower.
If tomorrow's numbers are still at the 7,500 level we can all breath an enormous sigh of relief.
Cases up 1250% in St Ives is of interest. G7 superspreader event ?0 -
There is an absolute axiomatic obsession withBigRich said:
Sad that so many are so coususe, but I assume that will be that many believe the government scientists know best, when cases start dropping, they may change there minds.HYUFD said:Most voters think lifting restrictions on 19th June is 'about right.'
38% About right
26% Too soon
19% Too late
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1404826704242216968?s=20'cases'positive tests. So you are possibly right about that.0 -
North West figures are excellent.2
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Those who skirt the OFCOM impartiality guidelines to the left, are sh!t-scared of someone skirting those same guidelines to the right.Floater said:
Quite - just what is different in this case ......Sandpit said:
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.
A large mob of lefties decided, before GBN ever broadcast anything, that they were going to be a British “Fox News”, totally partial and uncritical of the government. Which, of course, has turned out to be bollocks. They’re screaming abuse at the government today.0 -
JRM has talked a lot before about collective cabinet responsibility and even backbench loyalty. That he thinks you have to really pick your battles. If not over this then what?Floater said:Jacob Rees-Mogg warns Cabinet colleagues against 'never-ending' restrictions.... will they listen?
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I totally understand his concern: Spain has also lagged a lot of its peers for vaccine rollout.Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.
But it's also pretty much Pfizer only now, and is doing 1.25% of its adult population a day now. @felix is unlucky to have gotten AZN first, which means he's stuck with a big dosing gap, while his younger peers will be getting Pfizer.
I suspect Spain will have a modest wave in the tourist hotspots, but don't forget that tourist season is still about a month away, and any growth will hit a wall of vaccinations.0 -
How do you look at a single region's data?Alistair said:North West figures are excellent.
EDIT: Sorry just found it!0 -
Statement from KopparbergukFloater said:
Quite - just what is different in this case ......Sandpit said:
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We want to make it clear to everyone that our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent. Kopparberg is a drink for everyone and we have immediately suspended our ads from this channel pending further review of its content
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You've seen my work then?Andy_JS said:
The lack of glossiness is quite refreshing, paradoxically.dixiedean said:
It is bewildering.Sandpit said:I don’t know what GB News are doing, but posting 360p videos on YouTube, complete with the stutters of their own broadcast website it was being ripped from, is a major screwup.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aSdqKfUdmHs
I’m available to help them, remotely, for a bargain £1k a day.
Over the lockdown I have learned, from a standing start, as a reasonably technophobic 50+ yo, to do the cameras and sound mixing of religious services broadcast live over several platforms and recorded for later use. All interactive with real time chat facility.
It is quite laughably easy for one person with almost no knowledge these days.
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So if the worst case scenario is that the rest of the country goes through the same kind of wave, we'll be ok?Alistair said:North West figures are excellent.
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"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/0 -
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=North WestAnabobazina said:
How do you look at a single region's data?Alistair said:North West figures are excellent.
Drop downs at the top of the page.1 -
Edinburgh figures are still fucked mind.0
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A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/0 -
You can check local authority data on genomes here:Northern_Al said:
No, Brighton. Could be a delayed effect of a manic Bank Holiday, perhaps.Pulpstar said:
Are you in Cornwall ?Northern_Al said:
I hope you're right. But where I live, cases have risen from virtually nothing to 250 in the last week, and you'd struggle to find many folk from the Indian diaspora, or multi-generational households, down here.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot on: if there are six of you who live in a three bedroom terrace, and one of you returned from India with Delta, then all of you will get it. And if little Ahmed went around to his friends house, then that'll be 12 people who now have Delta.DavidL said:
It seems much more likely to me that the delta variant is hitting the parameters of the unvaxxed, multigenerational households that it was seeded in and is finding spread in the more general population with their highish levels of vaccination more difficult. I certainly hope so.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
In less dense, less intergenerational, more vaccinated communities, spread is much much lower.
If tomorrow's numbers are still at the 7,500 level we can all breath an enormous sigh of relief.
Cases up 1250% in St Ives is of interest. G7 superspreader event ?
https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?lineage=B.1.617.2&latitude=53.604521&longitude=-2.090426&zoom=5.10&date=2021-06-05&uncertainty=1&lambda_type=area&area=E06000043
In Brighton & Hove Alpha is flat, Delta taking off1 -
Yes, sorry, I since found it. Interesting.Alistair said:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=North WestAnabobazina said:
How do you look at a single region's data?Alistair said:North West figures are excellent.
Drop downs at the top of the page.0 -
Says Behavioural scientist and well established media expert on epidemiology Susan MichieAndy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/1 -
This Portugeuse kit ought to be at The Hague for war crimes.2
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You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/
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Hungary not afraid to test out the sinopharm vax.0
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"Kopparberg is a drink for everyone"Floater said:
Statement from KopparbergukFloater said:
Quite - just what is different in this case ......Sandpit said:
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We want to make it clear to everyone that our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent. Kopparberg is a drink for everyone and we have immediately suspended our ads from this channel pending further review of its content
Just not the viewers of GBNews...4 -
Didn't you know Tory governments should only be attacked from the left. They aren't locking down hard enough.Sandpit said:
Those who skirt the OFCOM impartiality guidelines to the left, are sh!t-scared of someone skirting those same guidelines to the right.Floater said:
Quite - just what is different in this case ......Sandpit said:
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.
A large mob of lefties decided, before GBN ever broadcast anything, that they were going to be a British “Fox News”, totally partial and uncritical of the government. Which, of course, has turned out to be bollocks. They’re screaming abuse at the government today.
To imagine someone saying they're locking down too hard - the horrors.3 -
Kopparberg clearly haven’t heard of OFCOM.Floater said:
Statement from KopparbergukFloater said:
Quite - just what is different in this case ......Sandpit said:
It’s an organised Twitter pile-on, from a group called - ironically - Stop Funding Hate.JohnLilburne said:
What exactly do they have against Farage? Or is it the same as my beer-drinking acquaintances who refuse to step into a Wetherspoons because Tim Martin is a "gammon"?Floater said:Grolsch join the ban - shame I used to drink that beer - no longer.
Has been planned for weeks, to immediately target anyone and everyone associated with GB News.
Obviously, Farage has never appeared on ITV, Channel 4 or the BBC.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We want to make it clear to everyone that our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent. Kopparberg is a drink for everyone and we have immediately suspended our ads from this channel pending further review of its content0 -
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?1
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How is your confident, emphatic prediction of 10,000 daily positive tests by last Friday working out for you?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/2 -
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.Pulpstar said:"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
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Portugal vs Hungary
I've backed the most likely result of 1-0 to Portugal at 4.8 on Betfair Exchange.
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Thanks. That does suggest that Delta is taking off miles away from where it was originally seeded. I just don't think it's confined to multicultural/mixed-generation type communities - it's clearly spreading far and wide, but hopefully without fatal consequences.CarlottaVance said:
You can check local authority data on genomes here:Northern_Al said:
No, Brighton. Could be a delayed effect of a manic Bank Holiday, perhaps.Pulpstar said:
Are you in Cornwall ?Northern_Al said:
I hope you're right. But where I live, cases have risen from virtually nothing to 250 in the last week, and you'd struggle to find many folk from the Indian diaspora, or multi-generational households, down here.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot on: if there are six of you who live in a three bedroom terrace, and one of you returned from India with Delta, then all of you will get it. And if little Ahmed went around to his friends house, then that'll be 12 people who now have Delta.DavidL said:
It seems much more likely to me that the delta variant is hitting the parameters of the unvaxxed, multigenerational households that it was seeded in and is finding spread in the more general population with their highish levels of vaccination more difficult. I certainly hope so.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
In less dense, less intergenerational, more vaccinated communities, spread is much much lower.
If tomorrow's numbers are still at the 7,500 level we can all breath an enormous sigh of relief.
Cases up 1250% in St Ives is of interest. G7 superspreader event ?
https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?lineage=B.1.617.2&latitude=53.604521&longitude=-2.090426&zoom=5.10&date=2021-06-05&uncertainty=1&lambda_type=area&area=E06000043
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They’re not really mandatory now, it’s by popular consent. Because all you need to do is say you’re exempt and that’s that.londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/1 -
Susan Michie needs relieving of her position pretty quickly. What sort of a world does she want us to live in?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/
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The reaction from some, you would think GBNews had Tommy Robinson presenting a prime time slot for 3hrs a day....
The bit I saw of it, it seemed amateur hour with too much focus on wokery based stories. Seems like they are competing with Talk Radio for that niche.2 -
Who could have guessed a lifelong out and out communist might be keen on state control and not keen on civil liberties?Cookie said:
Susan Michie needs relieving of her position pretty quickly. What sort of a world does she want us to live in?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/6 -
East of England data
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=East of England
I see nothing to get excited about there at all0 -
And Moderna is the absolute dog bollocks....who they only give to the most important, good looking, intelligent individuals...Sandpit said:
Sinopharm is the okay one. Sinovac is the total dud.Pulpstar said:Hungary not afraid to test out the sinopharm vax.
Pfizer is brilliant and AZ fantastic, on the same scale.3 -
It does raise a serious point of how people like this get to be in such influential positions.Philip_Thompson said:
Who could have guessed a lifelong out and out communist might be keen on state control and not keen on civil liberties?Cookie said:
Susan Michie needs relieving of her position pretty quickly. What sort of a world does she want us to live in?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/3 -
“Rebellious” Indian youngstersNorthern_Al said:
Thanks. That does suggest that Delta is taking off miles away from where it was originally seeded. I just don't think it's confined to multicultural/mixed-generation type communities - it's clearly spreading far and wide, but hopefully without fatal consequences.CarlottaVance said:
You can check local authority data on genomes here:Northern_Al said:
No, Brighton. Could be a delayed effect of a manic Bank Holiday, perhaps.Pulpstar said:
Are you in Cornwall ?Northern_Al said:
I hope you're right. But where I live, cases have risen from virtually nothing to 250 in the last week, and you'd struggle to find many folk from the Indian diaspora, or multi-generational households, down here.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot on: if there are six of you who live in a three bedroom terrace, and one of you returned from India with Delta, then all of you will get it. And if little Ahmed went around to his friends house, then that'll be 12 people who now have Delta.DavidL said:
It seems much more likely to me that the delta variant is hitting the parameters of the unvaxxed, multigenerational households that it was seeded in and is finding spread in the more general population with their highish levels of vaccination more difficult. I certainly hope so.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
In less dense, less intergenerational, more vaccinated communities, spread is much much lower.
If tomorrow's numbers are still at the 7,500 level we can all breath an enormous sigh of relief.
Cases up 1250% in St Ives is of interest. G7 superspreader event ?
https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?lineage=B.1.617.2&latitude=53.604521&longitude=-2.090426&zoom=5.10&date=2021-06-05&uncertainty=1&lambda_type=area&area=E06000043
In Brighton & Hove Alpha is flat, Delta taking off0 -
I am shocked - Birdwatchers are called Birders?Floater said:Sigh
https://twitter.com/MacaesBruno/status/1404763176424677378/photo/1
"The racist legacy many birds carry"0 -
ByronicGardenwalker said:
Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?Theuniondivvie said:
Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like somebody is having a nice time...
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156
Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?0 -
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?2 -
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.Anabobazina said:There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?0 -
I may be missing something here - but if I read the Kopparberg thread correctly, it was initially someone tweeting them congratulating them for advertising on GB news which led to this.
Or something. I may be missing some layers of irony or nuance.
https://twitter.com/KopparbergUK/status/1404465568497950723
0 -
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?Andy_JS said:
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.Anabobazina said:There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?0 -
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.0 -
Fairly sure they will be falling.Andy_JS said:
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.Anabobazina said:There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
You can only tell for sure retrospectively. But I reckon in six days' time it'll be looking fairly likely that we're on our way back down again, and in thirteen days' time it will be obvious that the peak passed well before the 21st. All the hardest hit authorities will be well past their respective peaks by next week, and the less-hard-hit will be showing no signs of following anything like the same trajectory.
And it will make not the slightest bit of difference. Other justifications for further and longer lockdown will be found.1 -
I’m sure there was a leftie in there at some point to sow confusionSunil_Prasannan said:
ByronicGardenwalker said:
Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?Theuniondivvie said:
Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like somebody is having a nice time...
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156
Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?0 -
Ah yes.Sunil_Prasannan said:
ByronicGardenwalker said:
Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?Theuniondivvie said:
Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like somebody is having a nice time...
https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156
Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?
There was also someone who lasted about two posts. Had an innocuous name like “Colin” or something. Guess he wasn’t a fully worked out persona.1 -
Labour civil war, over the definition and use of the word “woman”.
How the left eats itself, part 124.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2021/06/14/starmers-disastrous-pride/3 -
Hardly congratulating them ......Cookie said:I may be missing something here - but if I read the Kopparberg thread correctly, it was initially someone tweeting them congratulating them for advertising on GB news which led to this.
Or something. I may be missing some layers of irony or nuance.
https://twitter.com/KopparbergUK/status/14044655684979507230 -
It is worrying - luckily I live in an area with exceptionally few cases right now but we do get a lot of Spanish tourists in July and August - and clearly there are many hundreds of thousands in the same position as me - perhaps bridezilla Anabobazine thinks we should all be 'checking our privilege'.Pulpstar said:
lol now that is madness, opening up fully before 65+ are fully vaxxed. It also shows just how well our rollout is doing compared to the EU despite the recent PR disaster.Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.2 -
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]Anabobazina said:
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?Andy_JS said:
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.Anabobazina said:There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.2 -
Give him a bit of slack - it’s one particular wedding. Sometimes you have to allow for people to feel extremely strongly about things close to them. Like cyclefree (no offence intended, or taken I hope CF...)felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.2 -
You seemed to be commenting on the situation in the UK, which is irrelevant to you, hence my response. As I have said, I have every sympathy with your position but weddings in the UK don't affect you in Spain!felix said:
It is worrying - luckily I live in an area with exceptionally few cases right now but we do get a lot of Spanish tourists in July and August - and clearly there are many hundreds of thousands in the same position as me - perhaps bridezilla Anabobazine thinks we should all be 'checking our privilege'.Pulpstar said:
lol now that is madness, opening up fully before 65+ are fully vaxxed. It also shows just how well our rollout is doing compared to the EU despite the recent PR disaster.Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.0 -
Ironically my partner - 15 years younger gets his second Pfizer tomorrow! To be fair I'm not overly worried given the stats where I live but there are many thousands who are in greater danger.rcs1000 said:
I totally understand his concern: Spain has also lagged a lot of its peers for vaccine rollout.Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.
But it's also pretty much Pfizer only now, and is doing 1.25% of its adult population a day now. @felix is unlucky to have gotten AZN first, which means he's stuck with a big dosing gap, while his younger peers will be getting Pfizer.
I suspect Spain will have a modest wave in the tourist hotspots, but don't forget that tourist season is still about a month away, and any growth will hit a wall of vaccinations.1 -
Don't count your chickens just yet old boy...Anabobazina said:
How is your confident, emphatic prediction of 10,000 daily positive tests by last Friday working out for you?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/0 -
felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.0 -
Spain has a reputation for a well run health system, and has not (historically) has the degree of vaccine scepticism as France; yet it seems to be lagging quite badly. Do you know why?felix said:
Ironically my partner - 15 years younger gets his second Pfizer tomorrow! To be fair I'm not overly worried given the stats where I live but there are many thousands who are in greater danger.rcs1000 said:
I totally understand his concern: Spain has also lagged a lot of its peers for vaccine rollout.Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.
But it's also pretty much Pfizer only now, and is doing 1.25% of its adult population a day now. @felix is unlucky to have gotten AZN first, which means he's stuck with a big dosing gap, while his younger peers will be getting Pfizer.
I suspect Spain will have a modest wave in the tourist hotspots, but don't forget that tourist season is still about a month away, and any growth will hit a wall of vaccinations.0 -
And yet we were told that Starmer was highly intelligent, forensic and a unifier - they forgot the bit about pig ignorant when it comes to basic politics.Sandpit said:Labour civil war, over the definition and use of the word “woman”.
How the left eats itself, part 124.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2021/06/14/starmers-disastrous-pride/3 -
I'm not counting anything other than your very confident, yet completely wrong, predictions.londonpubman said:
Don't count your chickens just yet old boy...Anabobazina said:
How is your confident, emphatic prediction of 10,000 daily positive tests by last Friday working out for you?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/0 -
"Ripples
@we_make_ripples
We're now up to FOUR advertisers who have pulled their ads from GB News:
Kopparberg
Grolsch
Nivea
Open University
Keep writing to their remaining advertisers!"
https://twitter.com/we_make_ripples/status/14047969568415457360 -
If my prediction that cases are fulling on or before 21 June (By specimen date and mid point of 7 day average) is not correct, then I will fully and profoundly apologise, and give OGH £100 as penance.Anabobazina said:There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
Or if others wish to suggest alternatives, buy the first round at the first Post pandemic PB Gettogether perhaps?
(as its by specimen date will need to leave it a week to confirm the trend.)1 -
What's that you say? You can't possibly wait until "The British General Election of 2019" by Ford, Bale, Jennings and Surridge comes out in the autumn, and you want a four-page #GE2019 summary by one of the authors right here, right now? OK, then......
The 2019 general election left Labour a long, long way behind. Indeed, it might have finished even further behind had a few more Leave voters in seats it managed to keep hold of not plumped for the Brexit Party rather than the Conservatives. Given Nigel Farage’s departure from politics, this is not likely to be an option available to those voters next time round, which could be worth between ten and twenty additional seats for the Conservatives. The Conservatives are also likely to be the main beneficiaries of the forthcoming parliamentary boundary review aimed at equalising the size of constituencies. Consequently, barring a severe economic downturn, or a highly-negative retrospective verdict on Johnson’s handling of the pandemic, or else a messy break-up of the UK occasioned by a vote for Scottish independence, it is very difficult to imagine Labour – even if it fights a far better campaign than it did in 2019 – winning in 2023 or 2024.
http://library.fes.de/pdf-files/bueros/london/18014.pdf4 -
it is one of the best things about democracy. It allows choice by those with enough detachment to be rational.Anabobazina said:felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.2 -
When I follow the Labour uncut link I also get a lot of advertising about kitchen knives (I have been contemplating buying one of the expensive Japanese ones). Clearly explicable, but amusing.felix said:
And yet we were told that Starmer was highly intelligent, forensic and a unifier - they forgot the bit about pig ignorant when it comes to basic politics.Sandpit said:Labour civil war, over the definition and use of the word “woman”.
How the left eats itself, part 124.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2021/06/14/starmers-disastrous-pride/2 -
Social distancing in pubs? Restaurants? Performance venues? Sports stadia? There's at least 50,000 extra people who would love to cram into Wembley on Friday.Anabobazina said:felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.
Weddings are not the be all and end all here. Just one of many things affected, and I agree with you on this part, probably unnecessarily.
Disclaimer: I had 6 people present at my wedding and I went back to work in the afternoon.2 -
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.Andy_JS said:"Ripples
@we_make_ripples
We're now up to FOUR advertisers who have pulled their ads from GB News:
Kopparberg
Grolsch
Nivea
Open University
Keep writing to their remaining advertisers!"
https://twitter.com/we_make_ripples/status/1404796956841545736
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.5 -
Wimbledon and Wembley are seriously lobbying for full outdoor crowds. Silverstone are close to a 150k sellout for the F1 on 18th July.Flatlander said:
Social distancing in pubs? Restaurants? Performance venues? Sports stadia? There's at least 50,000 extra people who would love to cram into Wembley on Friday.Anabobazina said:felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.
Weddings are not the be all and end all here. Just one of many things affected, and I agree with you on this part, probably unnecessarily.
Disclaimer: I had 6 people present at my wedding and I went back to work in the afternoon.1 -
It is going quite quickly now but they got the sequencing badly muddled with all of the AZT scare stories. First they gave in to under 50s and not the oldies. Then they changed tack and gave it only to 60-65s. Then late in the day they gave it to 65-70s. There is no Spanish word for clusterfuck as such but I quite like 'puta perdida' because of the sonofabitch connotation!rcs1000 said:
Spain has a reputation for a well run health system, and has not (historically) has the degree of vaccine scepticism as France; yet it seems to be lagging quite badly. Do you know why?felix said:
Ironically my partner - 15 years younger gets his second Pfizer tomorrow! To be fair I'm not overly worried given the stats where I live but there are many thousands who are in greater danger.rcs1000 said:
I totally understand his concern: Spain has also lagged a lot of its peers for vaccine rollout.Sandpit said:
He lives in Spain, and is two months away from his vaccine immunity - as the country indicates it’s desparate to attract millions of unvaccinated teens and twenties from all over Europe to party in nightclubs.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If I were 67 and facing this, I’d be sh!t-scared too.
But it's also pretty much Pfizer only now, and is doing 1.25% of its adult population a day now. @felix is unlucky to have gotten AZN first, which means he's stuck with a big dosing gap, while his younger peers will be getting Pfizer.
I suspect Spain will have a modest wave in the tourist hotspots, but don't forget that tourist season is still about a month away, and any growth will hit a wall of vaccinations.2 -
No, they hired an agency to sort this stuff out I'm guessing.Pulpstar said:"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
I'm also guessing GB News offered below market rates to advertise on their channels for the first month or so.1 -
Dull half. CR 7 comedy miss the highlight.0
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If anything I'd have thought the advertisers on GB News might be more put off by the slightly weird way they letterbox the picture for adverts so they can continue to scroll the ticker, rather than put the ad full screen.1
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Sadiq Khan. His opinion is worth about a row of beans..Anabobazina said:
It's a shame there haven't been more lockdown-critical voices from the left. Zoe Williams at the Guardian is the sole outrider, although Sadiq Khan has moved sharply against it in recent times.FrancisUrquhart said:
Talk Radio and the Telegraph have been the biggest pushers of anti-lockdown / faster opening of any of the mainstream media.rottenborough said:
Not sure about Telegraph breaking off support. They have featured a steady stream of commentators and opinion pieces on why lockdown isn't working and so on. See their Planet Normal podcast for example.RobD said:
That actually really annoyed me. They actually showed projections going into the future as well as the current data. And the Telegraph conveniently ignored the start of the second and first waves, which looked awfully similar.Sandpit said:Interesting graphic from the Telegraph, who appear to be rapidly breaking off their support of the government...
The mail seems to veer from lock me down harder and faster, to 10 mins later, running pieces saying why are the government locking down so hard, what about my uman rights.1 -
The OU?!!!BigRich said:
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.Andy_JS said:"Ripples
@we_make_ripples
We're now up to FOUR advertisers who have pulled their ads from GB News:
Kopparberg
Grolsch
Nivea
Open University
Keep writing to their remaining advertisers!"
https://twitter.com/we_make_ripples/status/1404796956841545736
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Terrible targeting. They’re wasting their money…1 -
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.FrancisUrquhart said:
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.Pulpstar said:"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.0 -
Silverstone probably the most sensible of those as not many use public transport and a lot of the venue is outside, even if everyone does get stuck in traffic jams...Sandpit said:
Wimbledon and Wembley are seriously lobbying for full outdoor crowds. Silverstone are close to a 150k sellout for the F1 on 18th July.Flatlander said:
Social distancing in pubs? Restaurants? Performance venues? Sports stadia? There's at least 50,000 extra people who would love to cram into Wembley on Friday.Anabobazina said:felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.
Weddings are not the be all and end all here. Just one of many things affected, and I agree with you on this part, probably unnecessarily.
Disclaimer: I had 6 people present at my wedding and I went back to work in the afternoon.1 -
If cases end up being less than my predictions then fine it's a good outcome.Anabobazina said:
I'm not counting anything other than your very confident, yet completely wrong, predictions.londonpubman said:
Don't count your chickens just yet old boy...Anabobazina said:
How is your confident, emphatic prediction of 10,000 daily positive tests by last Friday working out for you?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/
What I do want to see is that the reopening process is realistic and appropriate given the clear continuing threat of the Delta variant. Hopefully the additional 4 weeks will be sufficient to make the necessary further progress on vaccines etc, and when we get there no-one will be more pleased than me to see full reopening.
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Always said he was overrated.dixiedean said:Dull half. CR 7 comedy miss the highlight.
He's the Iberian Kieron Dyer.0 -
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.FrancisUrquhart said:
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.Pulpstar said:"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Also the reverse when people start getting adverts for porn on respectable websites2 -
Yes, that's right. He's only the Mayor of London, the man with the second-biggest direct mandate in Europe.squareroot2 said:
Sadiq Khan. His opinion is worth about a row of beans..Anabobazina said:
It's a shame there haven't been more lockdown-critical voices from the left. Zoe Williams at the Guardian is the sole outrider, although Sadiq Khan has moved sharply against it in recent times.FrancisUrquhart said:
Talk Radio and the Telegraph have been the biggest pushers of anti-lockdown / faster opening of any of the mainstream media.rottenborough said:
Not sure about Telegraph breaking off support. They have featured a steady stream of commentators and opinion pieces on why lockdown isn't working and so on. See their Planet Normal podcast for example.RobD said:
That actually really annoyed me. They actually showed projections going into the future as well as the current data. And the Telegraph conveniently ignored the start of the second and first waves, which looked awfully similar.Sandpit said:Interesting graphic from the Telegraph, who appear to be rapidly breaking off their support of the government...
The mail seems to veer from lock me down harder and faster, to 10 mins later, running pieces saying why are the government locking down so hard, what about my uman rights.0 -
Yeah, I have been on public transport (bus to my work place) twice a day more or less every single day since Covid began. I can only think of a couple of times when a driver has made a comment about mask wearing to someone not wearing one. They just don't want to deal with the hassle and I don't blame them.moonshine said:
They’re not really mandatory now, it’s by popular consent. Because all you need to do is say you’re exempt and that’s that.londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/
If you say you are exempt they never question it.
Makes me laugh seeing more and more people using masks as chin warmers, masks full down but resting under their chin. Even with the older populace who are most vulnerable.
If they get rid of masks they get rid, honestly I think for a while I will keep wearing my ones for a while especially during certain times of the year like winter. I wear them all day at work, don't bother me one bit.
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However given the traffic you will take every infected person in a car and make a car-full of them.Flatlander said:
Silverstone probably the most sensible of those as not many use public transport and a lot of the venue is outside, even if everyone does get stuck in traffic jams...Sandpit said:
Wimbledon and Wembley are seriously lobbying for full outdoor crowds. Silverstone are close to a 150k sellout for the F1 on 18th July.Flatlander said:
Social distancing in pubs? Restaurants? Performance venues? Sports stadia? There's at least 50,000 extra people who would love to cram into Wembley on Friday.Anabobazina said:felix said:
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.Anabobazina said:
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?felix said:
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.Anabobazina said:
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...felix said:
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.maaarsh said:
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.Anabobazina said:
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...maaarsh said:7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
Just noise?
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.
Weddings are not the be all and end all here. Just one of many things affected, and I agree with you on this part, probably unnecessarily.
Disclaimer: I had 6 people present at my wedding and I went back to work in the afternoon.0 -
I'm not for a moment suggesting you want it to go on! I am merely noting your very emphatic, confident predictions that have proved wrong. You shouldn't be so sure of yourself, maybe...?londonpubman said:
If cases end up being less than my predictions then fine it's a good outcome.Anabobazina said:
I'm not counting anything other than your very confident, yet completely wrong, predictions.londonpubman said:
Don't count your chickens just yet old boy...Anabobazina said:
How is your confident, emphatic prediction of 10,000 daily positive tests by last Friday working out for you?londonpubman said:
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.Taz said:
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.Andy_JS said:"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/
"Why third jabs are inevitable
The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
BY TOM CHIVERS"
https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/
What I do want to see is that the reopening process is realistic and appropriate given the clear continuing threat of the Delta variant. Hopefully the additional 4 weeks will be sufficient to make the necessary further progress on vaccines etc, and when we get there no-one will be more pleased than me to see full reopening.1 -
"When will all legal limits on social contact be removed?"BigRich said:
Sad that so many are so coususe, but I assume that will be that many believe the government scientists know best, when cases start dropping, they may change there minds.HYUFD said:Most voters think lifting restrictions on 19th June is 'about right.'
38% About right
26% Too soon
19% Too late
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1404826704242216968?s=20
Prices at Smarkets:
June 75
July 1.7
August or later 2.12
I wouldn't bet on or against any of those, but "not 19 July" would be tempting at the right price.
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Fair play to you.BigRich said:
If my prediction that cases are fulling on or before 21 June (By specimen date and mid point of 7 day average) is not correct, then I will fully and profoundly apologise, and give OGH £100 as penance.Anabobazina said:There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
Or if others wish to suggest alternatives, buy the first round at the first Post pandemic PB Gettogether perhaps?
(as its by specimen date will need to leave it a week to confirm the trend.)1 -
If they’re still in place in June 2075 I will be very surprised. I would have expected a Revolution before about 2026.Vomp said:
I thought herd immunity meantMalmesbury said:
The problem is working out the *anti-transmission* effectiveness of the vaccinesVomp said:
What is the estimated % vaccination that will give herd immunity? A figure of 95% is quoted for measles which is far more infectious than SARS.DavidL said:
Exactly. And the delta variant will either be here in July or more likely have been replaced by something even more infectious. It is the level of immunity from vaccination that is key.Anabobazina said:
Is it? If we’d had a higher rate of vaccination, we wouldn’t have delayed. Or so we are told. The delay is to second jab, remember?rkrkrk said:
The plain & simple reason is the delta variant.DavidL said:The level of vaccination has fallen from the pathetic to the derisory. As this is the plain and simple reason why Freedom day has been postponed is it possible that either the media or the Opposition might ask a question about it? What has gone wrong and what can we do about it?
We know they are very very effective against hospitalisation and death. They are less so against transmitting the virus.
"When will all legal limits on social contact be removed?"BigRich said:
Sad that so many are so coususe, but I assume that will be that many believe the government scientists know best, when cases start dropping, they may change there minds.HYUFD said:Most voters think lifting restrictions on 19th June is 'about right.'
38% About right
26% Too soon
19% Too late
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1404826704242216968?s=20
Prices at Smarkets:
June 75
July 1.7
August or later 2.12
I wouldn't bet on or against any of those, but "not 19 July" would be tempting at the right price.0 -
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.alex_ said:
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.FrancisUrquhart said:
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.Pulpstar said:"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
Unless they can rapidly reinvent themselves as a kind of unilads outfit, pumping clips out to Facebook and getting millions of likes.0
