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  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    Netflix had a bigger revenue that Hollywood, back in 2018, gosh I am surprised, especially as it has grown a lot since then.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,401
    One of the least one sided 3-0 results I can remember.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    meanwhile, in the Great White North, the Green Party of Canada has just lost 1/3 of it's federal MPs

    CBC - Green MP Jenica Atwin crossing the floor to join the Liberals

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jenica-atwin-joining-the-liberals-1.6060501

    June 10 - A senior Liberal source said Atwin initiated the floor-crossing several weeks ago

    Fredericton MP Jenica Atwin bolted from the Green party caucus today, crossing the floor of the House of Commons to join the governing Liberals.

    Atwin accomplished a historic breakthrough for the Greens in the last election, winning their first ever seat in Atlantic Canada when she defeated Liberal incumbent Matt DeCourcey in Fredericton. Atwin, along with Paul Manly and former leader Elizabeth May, gave the Greens three MPs and their largest caucus in history.

    Atwin's departure is a setback for a party that has long sought more influence in Parliament — and a coup for the Liberals as they look to rally progressive voters around the party ahead of a possible fall election.

    In announcing her shock move today, Atwin, a former teacher and community organizer in Oromocto, N.B., said there were too many "distractions" in the Green Party and she wanted to work in a more "supportive and collaborative" environment.

    Recent party infighting over issues like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict took her away from the issues that matter most to her constituents, Atwin said.

    "It certainly played a role," she said, when asked whether a recent dispute over Green Party Leader Annamie Paul's public statements about the Middle Eastern conflict pushed her to join the Liberals. Paul has been accused of ignoring established party policy on Israel.

    At a press conference alongside Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc today, Atwin said that while she'll stand for a different party in the coming election, "my priorities, my values remain the same." . . . .

    She vowed to continue her fight for aggressive climate action and to oppose fracking and projects like the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, which the government is in the process of building after years of delays. . . .

    Atwin said the Liberals offered nothing in exchange for her floor-crossing and she was not promised a cabinet post. . . .

    A senior Liberal source said Atwin initiated the floor-crossing several weeks ago when she reached out to the governing party.

    The source said Atwin expressed comfort with the Liberals' approach to core issues such as the environment and reconciliation. Atwin's husband Chris Atwin is a councillor with the Oromocto First Nation.

    A fracture over the Middle East - Atwin's departure comes after the Israeli-Palestinian conflict exposed fault lines in the Green party ranks.

    Atwin directly challenged Paul's position on the conflict, saying Paul's call for de-escalation and a return to dialogue between the two was "totally inadequate." . . . .
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited June 2021

    Looks like somebody is having a nice time...

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156

    Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?
    Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?
    Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?
    Byronic
    Ah yes.

    There was also someone who lasted about two posts. Had an innocuous name like “Colin” or something. Guess he wasn’t a fully worked out persona.
    No ... it's SeanT, who's avatar over at Unherd reminds me irresistably of an Argus poster from the 1990s of a walrus with the famous "all the best things in life are immoral, illegal or fattening". Which might be a good motto for the old misanthrope. :smile:


    image
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    dixiedean said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity?
    A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near.

    Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
    Its not the aim of the channel.
    Shades of Voltaire. GB News is not great, is not British and is not news
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    kinabalu said:

    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.

    Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?

    Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...

    What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?

    What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
    Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
    I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]

    I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
    You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
    At best it will be things like nightclubs can re-open but only to those who are vaccinated or recently tested.

    It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
    I have noticed there seems to be a lot less face mask wearing and to be honest at my daughters 50th birthday last week it was as if everything was normal with no face masks, social distancing, and lots of hugs and even hand shakes

    I just think most people, especially those vaccinated, will just get on with their lives
    Doesnt help the millions of people who work in the night time economy though.
    Quite.

    People having private parties at home can let all the rules burn. The rozzers aren't going to banging on doors except in the case of the most egregious examples.

    Businesses, on the other hand, are completely screwed by all these regulations - and even if we do finally get rid of them at some point before we're all dead of old age, there will be very real longer term destruction. A lot of pubs in particular are worried that people have simply got out of the habit of going, and once all the support goes and they are expected to trade without assistance they won't be able to get the punters back quickly enough to stave off bankruptcy.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,590
    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    rcs - he did make a brave decision, but just not the one you thought was right.

    He made pensioners and his scientific advisers happy - it was the easy decision. Doesn't make it right or wrong, but it didn't require any bravery.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631
    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,255

    jonny83 said:

    moonshine said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
    Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
    BY FREDDIE SAYERS"

    https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/


    "Why third jabs are inevitable
    The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
    BY TOM CHIVERS"

    https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/

    A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.
    You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.

    They’re not really mandatory now, it’s by popular consent. Because all you need to do is say you’re exempt and that’s that.
    Yeah, I have been on public transport (bus to my work place) twice a day more or less every single day since Covid began. I can only think of a couple of times when a driver has made a comment about mask wearing to someone not wearing one. They just don't want to deal with the hassle and I don't blame them.

    If you say you are exempt they never question it.

    Makes me laugh seeing more and more people using masks as chin warmers, masks full down but resting under their chin. Even with the older populace who are most vulnerable.

    If they get rid of masks they get rid, honestly I think for a while I will keep wearing my ones for a while especially during certain times of the year like winter. I wear them all day at work, don't bother me one bit.
    The longer this goes on for, the more I'm tempted to just buy one of those "hidden disability" lanyards so I can dispense with the bleeding masks, at least for train journeys and big shopping expeditions where you spend your time going in and out of places.

    The only thing that really puts me off is the belligerence of random angry strangers. My husband, who is severely asthmatic and genuinely entitled to be free of wretched masks, persists with them for the same reason.
    Has he shopped around? - there are some masks out there that have a very low resistance to airflow, for example. Cycling and city running means that there was some expensive, but very minimalist systems out there.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,255
    MattW said:

    Looks like somebody is having a nice time...

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156

    Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?
    Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?
    Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?
    Byronic
    Ah yes.

    There was also someone who lasted about two posts. Had an innocuous name like “Colin” or something. Guess he wasn’t a fully worked out persona.
    No ... it's SeanT, who's avatar over at Unherd reminds me irresistably of an Argus poster from the 1990s of a walrus with the famous "all the best things in life are immoral, illegal or fattening". Which might be a good motto for the old misanthrope. :smile:


    image
    Which account does the walrus post to PB under?
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492

    UK R

    image

    Why is that labelled as UK Hospital addmitions R?

    is it estimation based on how many are being admitted to hospital?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822
    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    rcs - he did make a brave decision, but just not the one you thought was right.

    If you count doing whatever yougov says wins most votes as brave, then yes sure.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,255

    Two French yachties fined £3000 each for ignoring arrival/quarantine law:

    https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2021-06-15/two-people-fined-3000-for-breaching-coronavirus-rules-in-sark

    Should have gone all Mers-el-Kébir on them.
    Slacker. Do it properly... Copenhagen....
  • eekeek Posts: 28,370

    MattW said:

    Looks like somebody is having a nice time...

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156

    Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?
    Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?
    Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?
    Byronic
    Ah yes.

    There was also someone who lasted about two posts. Had an innocuous name like “Colin” or something. Guess he wasn’t a fully worked out persona.
    No ... it's SeanT, who's avatar over at Unherd reminds me irresistably of an Argus poster from the 1990s of a walrus with the famous "all the best things in life are immoral, illegal or fattening". Which might be a good motto for the old misanthrope. :smile:


    image
    Which account does the walrus post to PB under?
    BigG
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited June 2021

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,255
    BigRich said:

    UK R

    image

    Why is that labelled as UK Hospital addmitions R?

    is it estimation based on how many are being admitted to hospital?
    Yes - the calculation is derived from the hospital admissions numbers. Which in theory makes it a more stable method than using cases, since you can get massive movements when they flood areas with lateral flow tests.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,357
    How did they end up with the current European Champions, the current World Champions - and Germany! - in the same group?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    ping said:

    Portugal 1-0 84mins

    Crap goal.

    Looks like andy might win his bet

    Edit: penalty to portugal

    Edit2: 2-0. Bad luck, Andy!

    I didn't cash out. Idiot.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793
    Andy_JS said:

    Conservative MPs express their disappointment in Keir Starmer's leadership, unironically.


    "Marcus Fysh MP Retweeted
    Mark Harper
    @Mark_J_Harper

    Labour have been a complete waste of space throughout this pandemic.

    They are AWOL on the issues that matter and, when they offer an opinion, it’s through hindsight-tinted spectacles.

    Ministers up their game when a good official opposition keeps them on their toes."

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Harper/status/1404779530112442368

    While I agree with him, it really is a sign of a government at the top of its cycle when its MPs feel they can tell the opposition how to oppose.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,759

    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    rcs - he did make a brave decision, but just not the one you thought was right.

    If you count doing whatever yougov says wins most votes as brave, then yes sure.
    Well, personally I'd have considered the cupboard under the stairs option.

  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793

    BigRich said:

    UK R

    image

    Why is that labelled as UK Hospital addmitions R?

    is it estimation based on how many are being admitted to hospital?
    Yes - the calculation is derived from the hospital admissions numbers. Which in theory makes it a more stable method than using cases, since you can get massive movements when they flood areas with lateral flow tests.
    Downside presumably is a bit of a lag in timeliness?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
  • AnExileinD4AnExileinD4 Posts: 337
    felix said:

    felix said:

    felix said:

    felix said:

    maaarsh said:

    maaarsh said:

    7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.

    Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.

    It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...

    Just noise?
    Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.

    Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
    If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.
    Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...
    God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.
    I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?
    I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.

    Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.
    it is one of the best things about democracy. It allows choice by those with enough detachment to be rational.
    God bless the boomers, they think only of others and not of themselves. Selfless, all.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034
    eek said:

    MattW said:

    Looks like somebody is having a nice time...

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/1404818021965873156

    Wouldn't it be an amazing coincidence if he bumped into a PBer who also happened to be there?
    Byron, the transsexual actor from Wimbledon?
    Or was it LadyG, the sapphic newt painter?
    Byronic
    Ah yes.

    There was also someone who lasted about two posts. Had an innocuous name like “Colin” or something. Guess he wasn’t a fully worked out persona.
    No ... it's SeanT, who's avatar over at Unherd reminds me irresistably of an Argus poster from the 1990s of a walrus with the famous "all the best things in life are immoral, illegal or fattening". Which might be a good motto for the old misanthrope. :smile:


    image
    Which account does the walrus post to PB under?
    BigG
    That's not very nice and it is definitely not me
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149

    jonny83 said:

    moonshine said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays
    Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever
    BY FREDDIE SAYERS"

    https://unherd.com/2021/06/susan-michie-dont-rule-out-more-delays/


    "Why third jabs are inevitable
    The variants are going to keep on circulating without another vaccine
    BY TOM CHIVERS"

    https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-third-jabs-are-inevitable/

    A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.
    You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.

    They’re not really mandatory now, it’s by popular consent. Because all you need to do is say you’re exempt and that’s that.
    Yeah, I have been on public transport (bus to my work place) twice a day more or less every single day since Covid began. I can only think of a couple of times when a driver has made a comment about mask wearing to someone not wearing one. They just don't want to deal with the hassle and I don't blame them.

    If you say you are exempt they never question it.

    Makes me laugh seeing more and more people using masks as chin warmers, masks full down but resting under their chin. Even with the older populace who are most vulnerable.

    If they get rid of masks they get rid, honestly I think for a while I will keep wearing my ones for a while especially during certain times of the year like winter. I wear them all day at work, don't bother me one bit.
    The longer this goes on for, the more I'm tempted to just buy one of those "hidden disability" lanyards so I can dispense with the bleeding masks, at least for train journeys and big shopping expeditions where you spend your time going in and out of places.

    The only thing that really puts me off is the belligerence of random angry strangers. My husband, who is severely asthmatic and genuinely entitled to be free of wretched masks, persists with them for the same reason.
    Has he shopped around? - there are some masks out there that have a very low resistance to airflow, for example. Cycling and city running means that there was some expensive, but very minimalist systems out there.
    Is it masks or face coverings?

    I'm still on a pack of cycling snoods (neck tubes) I bought when it all started. Far less of an impediment than a mask. By now very few places (apart from hospitals) insist on *masks*, and if they do they give you one.

    6 for about £10.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/cycling-snoods-men/s?k=cycling+snoods+for+men
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited June 2021

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,255
    Cookie said:

    BigRich said:

    UK R

    image

    Why is that labelled as UK Hospital addmitions R?

    is it estimation based on how many are being admitted to hospital?
    Yes - the calculation is derived from the hospital admissions numbers. Which in theory makes it a more stable method than using cases, since you can get massive movements when they flood areas with lateral flow tests.
    Downside presumably is a bit of a lag in timeliness?
    Yes - but R is best treated as slow moving average anyway.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    The delta coronavirus variant has California experts worried. Here's what you need to know

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/The-delta-coronavirus-variant-has-California-16240411.php

    Still just a VOI in Ca - lets hope it stays that way....
  • VompVomp Posts: 36
    ydoethur said:

    Vomp said:

    BigRich said:

    HYUFD said:

    Most voters think lifting restrictions on 19th June is 'about right.'

    38% About right
    26% Too soon
    19% Too late

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1404826704242216968?s=20

    Sad that so many are so coususe, but I assume that will be that many believe the government scientists know best, when cases start dropping, they may change there minds.
    "When will all legal limits on social contact be removed?"
    Prices at Smarkets:
    June 75
    July 1.7
    August or later 2.12

    I wouldn't bet on or against any of those, but "not 19 July" would be tempting at the right price.
    If they’re still in place in June 2075 I will be very surprised. I would have expected a Revolution before about 2026.
    I said they were the prices. (Decimal odds).
    Would that be a revolution calling for tougher measures?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,860
    In other news: Vermont became the first US state to reach its 80% Covid-19 vaccination goal and is now shedding all its statewide pandemic restrictions, including letting a state of emergency expire tonight.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    The GB News launch looks like it is going really well. It is a start up news channel so the poor picture quality doesn't really matter, people in the real world are interested in the content. Stop Funding Hate are giving them free promotion, effectively creating a news story whereas previously there would have been none (ie: watch this channel that the pathetic woke babies are trying to cancel!). It might be a turning point, the more mad the woke get about it, the more vexatious complaints about hate speech etc that they pursue against it, the more promotion they give it; and there is nothing really wrong with what the agenda they are following on GBNews, it will all look like common sense to the average Brit and very far from Fox News.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    edited June 2021
    Michelle Dewberyy on GB News just said "Don't be a tosser". Not something you hear on BBC or Sky every day.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,631

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
    Well he's used to broadcasting arseholes and [moderated] in HD and 4k.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    Andy_JS said:

    Michelle Dewberyy on GB News just said "Don't be a tosser". Not something you hear on BBC or Sky every day.

    Mindgeek are now reconsidering any work with GBNews, as they are very pro tosser.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
    Pornhub is weirdly rubbish. Xvideos is much better
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    kinabalu said:

    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.

    Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?

    Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...

    What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?

    What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
    Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
    I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]

    I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
    You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
    I agree. That’s the big opportunity of the next few weeks. For potentially the first time in 18 month’s the scientific modelling and advice is not a moving target. There is a model. It has (fairly pessimistic) central predictions based on the restrictions in place. It allows genuine potential for the modelling to be demonstrably wrong and the politicians to break free from it.

    Autumn winter could still be dangerous though. But hopefully the spell could be broken.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,647

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    An interesting article in the Economist about Only Fans. I think few make anything like this OF star, but cutting out the middleman is part of how the Internet works.

    https://amp.economist.com/1843/2020/01/06/onlyfans-a-day-in-the-life-of-a-topless-creator?__twitter_impression=true
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Re: the defection of one of three Green MPs in Canada to the Liberal Party, looks like a boost for Justin PM Trudeau and his potential hope of achieving a majority in the next federal general election.

    Which is not scheduled to take place until 2023. HOWEVER it's looking increasing likely that Trudeau may call a snap election for October 2021, to take advantage of his vax & COVID bounce in the polls, along with the failure-to-launch (so far anyhow) by new Conservative Party leader Erin O'Toole.

    And now the Grits have taken advantage over internal Green Party squabbling, both ideological and personal, over the recent eruption Palestine v Israel. The leader Green Party Leader Annamie Paul, is also relatively new, and NOT much liked by former leader Catherine May & many other Green leader. Situation is complicated by fact that Paul is NOT an MP, have run and lost in a Toronto riding twice, though she ran a good race the 2nd time in a by-election to replace disgraced Liberal cabinet minister.

    Another complication is that Annamie Paul is both Black and Jewish. Add impassioned tweets by Green MPs (including Jenica Atwin before she crossed the aisle) with retorts by Paul's chief advisor, a passionate Green and Zionist, and you've got yourself a sizable donnybrook for a small party.

    Getting back to the Liberals, they've shown both notable dexterity AND classic insider savvy (a Grit specialty) in picking off one-third of the Green caucus. While they may take a hit with some Jewish voters, my guess is this will be balanced by firming up support with progressive AND ethnic voters. Plus throwing a monkey wrench into the works for the Greens, especially in New Brunswick and the Maritimes, where they a threat to the Libs.

    NDP may also benefit, but Trudeau looks willing to take that risk as a possible election - declared by him - approaches. And why not?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Correct.

    OnlyFans is one (more) media exposé of underage girls away from being blacklisted by the payment companies, just as Pornhub shut down millions of uploaders earlier this year.

    It’s quite the platform though, with millions of escorts and exhibitionists there scaling hundreds of dollars a month, and the already established few dozen adult actresses making hundreds of thousands. A month.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,860
    CNN: The delay will almost certainly divide opinion. While most of the public has been largely supportive of the UK's tough Covid restrictions throughout the pandemic, Johnson's habit of U-turning could go down badly as citizens and businesses have been busy making plans for their summer of freedom. British citizens have been living under some form of Covid-19 restrictions since March 23, 2020, when Prime Minister Boris Johnson somberly told the nation that, with immediate effect, they must stay at home in order to suppress the virus.

    Since that date, the UK's Covid story has been through numerous ups and downs, from failed testing systems to thousands of daily deaths and the canceling of Christmas.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Correct.

    OnlyFans is one (more) media exposé of underage girls away from being blacklisted by the payment companies, just as Pornhub shut down millions of uploaders earlier this year.

    It’s quite the platform though, with millions of escorts and exhibitionists there scaling hundreds of dollars a month, and the already established few dozen adult actresses making hundreds of thousands. A month.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    My wife makes a decent-ish living on onlyfans
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,928
    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Correct.

    OnlyFans is one (more) media exposé of underage girls away from being blacklisted by the payment companies, just as Pornhub shut down millions of uploaders earlier this year.

    It’s quite the platform though, with millions of escorts and exhibitionists there scaling hundreds of dollars a month, and the already established few dozen adult actresses making hundreds of thousands. A month.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    Needs a log scale on both axes. 100k USD a month though, jeez.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,647
    Leon said:

    Didn’t give a scintilla of a fucksickle about GB News until the Woke started boycotting it

    Now I keenly want it to survive, lo-fi videos and all

    Mrs Foxy is quite a fan. Popcorn out watching car-crash TV, but I expect that she will tire of it quickly.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,928
    IanB2 said:

    CNN: The delay will almost certainly divide opinion. While most of the public has been largely supportive of the UK's tough Covid restrictions throughout the pandemic, Johnson's habit of U-turning could go down badly as citizens and businesses have been busy making plans for their summer of freedom. British citizens have been living under some form of Covid-19 restrictions since March 23, 2020, when Prime Minister Boris Johnson somberly told the nation that, with immediate effect, they must stay at home in order to suppress the virus.

    Since that date, the UK's Covid story has been through numerous ups and downs, from failed testing systems to thousands of daily deaths and the canceling of Christmas.

    What riveting analysis by CNN there. Of course it will divide opinion.
  • AnExileinD4AnExileinD4 Posts: 337
    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    FWIW, The Times is clickbaiting again. I still subscribe but it takes me less and and less time to read. The only redeeming feature is that it’s not the Sunday Times, which is now almost worthless clickbait.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited June 2021
    And BBC now running the GB News story...explaining what is cancel culture and woke....not sure GB News could have paid for that publicity.

    Speaking to BBC News on Tuesday, Richard Wilson, director of media group Stop Funding Hate, said that the immediate controversial tone meant "it's no surprise" that a reputable brand such as Kopparberg are "stepping away, and refusing to align with this".

    The group has begun compiling a list of brands advertising on the fledgling channel - urging its 120,000 followers on Twitter to exert pressure on them on social media.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-57483907

    We have a little list....we put people and companies on our list....and invite a pile on.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    Andy_JS said:

    Michelle Dewberyy on GB News just said "Don't be a tosser". Not something you hear on BBC or Sky every day.

    Except when said to presenters :smile:
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,723
    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585
    edited June 2021
    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Correct.

    OnlyFans is one (more) media exposé of underage girls away from being blacklisted by the payment companies, just as Pornhub shut down millions of uploaders earlier this year.

    It’s quite the platform though, with millions of escorts and exhibitionists there scaling hundreds of dollars a month, and the already established few dozen adult actresses making hundreds of thousands. A month.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    Needs a log scale on both axes. 100k USD a month though, jeez.
    This Aella girl understands maths as well as porn. She does log scales too.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    Porn has been an industry turned totally upside down by the pandemic. As studio production got shut down, the known ‘stars’ who worked for the production houses have realised they can earn in a month from OF what they earned in a year as an ‘actress’.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    And BBC now running the GB News story...explaining what is cancel culture and woke....not sure GB News could have paid for that publicity.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-57483907

    Yes it’s an obvious own goal by the wokenazis
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    Well of course they can't. They won't be able to say that in three months or three years either. And in the meantime, the terrifying models showing that no lockdown = everyone dead by the end of the year will continue to be churned out with predictable regularity.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    edited June 2021

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
    Onlyfans probably qualifies as a UK owned unicorn, apart from not being a plc.
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/may/24/essex-family-behind-onlyfans-profit-from-pornography-boom

    If the other comments are true, PC Plod may be interested.

    Up here our Nottinghamshire plod were telling off 6th formers about transmission of indecent images offences when sending images to girl/boyfriends.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Correct.

    OnlyFans is one (more) media exposé of underage girls away from being blacklisted by the payment companies, just as Pornhub shut down millions of uploaders earlier this year.

    It’s quite the platform though, with millions of escorts and exhibitionists there scaling hundreds of dollars a month, and the already established few dozen adult actresses making hundreds of thousands. A month.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    Needs a log scale on both axes. 100k USD a month though, jeez.
    This Aella girl understands maths as well as porn. She does log scales too.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000
    She is a smart lady...

    Freddie Sayers speaks with Aella, one of OnlyFans' most successful creators.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlW2QdzZuZ8
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    Delta is a potential threat to the very unlucky, but then so is pancreatic cancer and who spends their life worrying about contracting that? If you were that terrified of your own (ultimately inevitable) death then you couldn't function.

    And if some future variant rocks up that resets the vaccine clock back to zero then we might as well just give up, frankly.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    The delta coronavirus variant has California experts worried. Here's what you need to know

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/The-delta-coronavirus-variant-has-California-16240411.php

    Still just a VOI in Ca - lets hope it stays that way....
    Yep, and it will run through unvaccinated communities. But because the most vulnerable are vaccinated, it won't lead to hospitals becoming overrun. Instead, it will probably just result in the vaccination rate ticking up.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134

    kinabalu said:

    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.

    Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?

    Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...

    What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?

    What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
    Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
    I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]

    I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
    You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
    At best it will be things like nightclubs can re-open but only to those who are vaccinated or recently tested.

    It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
    Definitely the polls are a big factor. Totally agree with that. And this isn't good for Labour because with honourable exceptions such as your good self the folks who are livid about ongoing restrictions are not susceptible to a Labour vote - and in any case Labour are not arguing against a delay. That's more of a Tory backbencher thing.

    But back to our putative even money bet. I've thought about it and I'm happy to define No Delay as meaning nightclubs are completely free of legal Covid restrictions after July 19th. Ooo er missus. Brave. I'm feeling brave.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    The delta coronavirus variant has California experts worried. Here's what you need to know

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/The-delta-coronavirus-variant-has-California-16240411.php

    Still just a VOI in Ca - lets hope it stays that way....
    Yep, and it will run through unvaccinated communities. But because the most vulnerable are vaccinated, it won't lead to hospitals becoming overrun. Instead, it will probably just result in the vaccination rate ticking up.
    The delta variant will rip through unvaxed people everywhere, Europe, America, Asia. Millions will die. That’s just a fact. But millions die every week

    The rich world will be ok. It’s the 3rd unvaxed World which is deeply concerning

  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Correct.

    OnlyFans is one (more) media exposé of underage girls away from being blacklisted by the payment companies, just as Pornhub shut down millions of uploaders earlier this year.

    It’s quite the platform though, with millions of escorts and exhibitionists there scaling hundreds of dollars a month, and the already established few dozen adult actresses making hundreds of thousands. A month.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    Needs a log scale on both axes. 100k USD a month though, jeez.
    This Aella girl understands maths as well as porn. She does log scales too.

    https://twitter.com/aella_girl/status/1335726943249920000

    Porn has been an industry turned totally upside down by the pandemic. As studio production got shut down, the known ‘stars’ who worked for the production houses have realised they can earn in a month from OF what they earned in a year as an ‘actress’.
    "whorelord" :smiley:
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,723
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    O/T

    "15 Jun 2021
    Revealed: Epstein and Maxwell implicated in multiple UK abuse claims over a decade
    By Channel 4 News Investigations Team
    Serious questions raised about why Met Police chose not to investigate alleged offences. Police said today they will ‘review the information’ reported by this programme."

    https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-epstein-and-maxwell-implicated-in-multiple-uk-abuse-claims-over-a-decade
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    Andy_JS said:

    O/T

    "15 Jun 2021
    Revealed: Epstein and Maxwell implicated in multiple UK abuse claims over a decade
    By Channel 4 News Investigations Team
    Serious questions raised about why Met Police chose not to investigate alleged offences. Police said today they will ‘review the information’ reported by this programme."

    https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-epstein-and-maxwell-implicated-in-multiple-uk-abuse-claims-over-a-decade

    Two busy investigating people who weren't paedos?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,034
    Speaker and Boris make up




    Future announcements to be made simultaneously in Commons and press conferences

    Boris Johnson and Sir Lindsay Hoyle have agreed that future significant announcements could be made simultaneously in the Commons and in a press conference, according to the Commons Speaker's office.

    It follows criticism of the PM for announcing the extension to restrictions outside of Parliament.

    After a "cordial meeting", Sir Lindsay's spokeswoman said: "The Speaker and the Prime Minister met this afternoon. It was a positive meeting in which they agreed the importance of keeping Parliament and the public informed when decisions are made."

    Asked whether any concrete decisions had been made to alleviate the row, the spokeswoman said: "They agreed announcements would be made at the same time."

    Sir Lindsay accused Downing Street of "running roughshod" over MPs by not informing them first of changes to the government's roadmap.

    Speaking as Health Secretary Matt Hancock prepared to make a statement to MPs last night, Sir Lindsay said: "I will be pursuing this matter with him. I do not find it acceptable at all – members of this House are elected to come here to serve their constituents, not to serve them via Sky or BBC."



  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585
    Andy_JS said:

    O/T

    "15 Jun 2021
    Revealed: Epstein and Maxwell implicated in multiple UK abuse claims over a decade
    By Channel 4 News Investigations Team
    Serious questions raised about why Met Police chose not to investigate alleged offences. Police said today they will ‘review the information’ reported by this programme."

    https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-epstein-and-maxwell-implicated-in-multiple-uk-abuse-claims-over-a-decade

    Hasn’t Cressida resigned yet?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    We'll never be 'safe'. But we have to, at some point, say that we're 'safe enough'.

    For me, that point was about 12 months ago.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    Leon said:

    And BBC now running the GB News story...explaining what is cancel culture and woke....not sure GB News could have paid for that publicity.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-57483907

    Yes it’s an obvious own goal by the wokenazis
    The BBC News article literally reads like a paid advertising promotion for GB News. It tells people what is on the channel and where it can be found (freeview channel 236 as well as other platforms including Sky, Virgin Media and Freesat)
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Didn’t give a scintilla of a fucksickle about GB News until the Woke started boycotting it

    Now I keenly want it to survive, lo-fi videos and all

    Mrs Foxy is quite a fan. Popcorn out watching car-crash TV, but I expect that she will tire of it quickly.
    For a second I read that thinking you were talking about OnlyFans.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,793
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    The delta coronavirus variant has California experts worried. Here's what you need to know

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/The-delta-coronavirus-variant-has-California-16240411.php

    Still just a VOI in Ca - lets hope it stays that way....
    Yep, and it will run through unvaccinated communities. But because the most vulnerable are vaccinated, it won't lead to hospitals becoming overrun. Instead, it will probably just result in the vaccination rate ticking up.
    The delta variant will rip through unvaxed people everywhere, Europe, America, Asia. Millions will die. That’s just a fact. But millions die every week

    The rich world will be ok. It’s the 3rd unvaxed World which is deeply concerning

    But the third world doesn’t have many oldies or fatties.
    It does, however have lots of poverty. And thanks to lockdowns it is getting lots more.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    Then stay in your house all day. No one is asking you to go outside. You and your wanker zero COVID cult are keeping the rest of us who are fine with the tiny risk locked down indefinitely.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134
    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
    Pornhub is weirdly rubbish. Xvideos is much better
    What is Pornhub?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Speaker and Boris make up




    Future announcements to be made simultaneously in Commons and press conferences

    Boris Johnson and Sir Lindsay Hoyle have agreed that future significant announcements could be made simultaneously in the Commons and in a press conference, according to the Commons Speaker's office.

    It follows criticism of the PM for announcing the extension to restrictions outside of Parliament.

    After a "cordial meeting", Sir Lindsay's spokeswoman said: "The Speaker and the Prime Minister met this afternoon. It was a positive meeting in which they agreed the importance of keeping Parliament and the public informed when decisions are made."

    Asked whether any concrete decisions had been made to alleviate the row, the spokeswoman said: "They agreed announcements would be made at the same time."

    Sir Lindsay accused Downing Street of "running roughshod" over MPs by not informing them first of changes to the government's roadmap.

    Speaking as Health Secretary Matt Hancock prepared to make a statement to MPs last night, Sir Lindsay said: "I will be pursuing this matter with him. I do not find it acceptable at all – members of this House are elected to come here to serve their constituents, not to serve them via Sky or BBC."



    Interesting. So PM informs the country and gets questioned by the pre-recorded public and media . . . while Hancock informs Parliament which nobody watches as the news is showing the PM and Keir responds to Hancock with nobody paying any attention.

    Not sure how that's meant to be better for Parliamentary scrutiny than the PM being grilled by the LOTO the next day.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747

    Foxy said:

    Leon said:

    Didn’t give a scintilla of a fucksickle about GB News until the Woke started boycotting it

    Now I keenly want it to survive, lo-fi videos and all

    Mrs Foxy is quite a fan. Popcorn out watching car-crash TV, but I expect that she will tire of it quickly.
    For a second I read that thinking you were talking about OnlyFans.
    I thought pornhub….
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,218
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
    Pornhub is weirdly rubbish. Xvideos is much better
    What is Pornhub?
    Where PBers go to find out what's going to happen to the City of London.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Sandpit said:

    Floater said:

    Sandpit said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
    Jesus.

    To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.

    It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.

    I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
    Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary

    Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.

    The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.

    You learn that picture quality is important.

    But august publications have picked up on things like that.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html

    But porn is big money.



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
    That’s before OnlyFans, which has democratised porn more than ever before.
    Indeed.
    That is astonishing.
    Presumably money from porn is distributed a lot more widely than money from Hollywood. There must be a lot of people making not very much. But still some people must be getting seriously rich from this.
    Actually, I heard recently about a FOAF who had briefly become a millionaire solely from hosting websites whi h provided links to port sites.
    I was astonished by that too.
    It's a very grim business, they've taken a huge hit.

    Absolutely NSFW and a bit uncomfortable reading.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

    It led to Visa and Mastercard no longer processing payments to certain sites.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k94be/mastercard-will-stop-processing-payments-to-pornhub
    My understanding is basically now all "traditional" porn is pretty much owned / operated / tech is built for by a company called MindGeek, which has a fascinating and very opaque backstory.
    Yup.
    MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

    Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

    Maybe they could sort out GBNews production issues....
    Pornhub is weirdly rubbish. Xvideos is much better
    What is Pornhub?
    Apparently a site most British adult males visit for ten minutes at a time. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/09/half-british-adults-watched-porn-pandemic-ofcom
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    Germany slight favourites.

    France 2.98 / 3
    Germany 2.66 / 2.68
    Draw 3.45 / 3.5

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/football/uefa-euro-2020/france-v-germany-betting-29909861
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Oooh, I forgot the Arizona election "audit" is due this month.

    Looking forward to some top quality PB comments when that is out.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    We'll never be 'safe'. But we have to, at some point, say that we're 'safe enough'.

    For me, that point was about 12 months ago.
    For me that should have been at the end of the '3 weeks to save the NHS' by which point deaths had peeked, we know a lot about the virus, and could see that hospitals would be busy but not overrun and everybody was still keen to voluntarily do what they could.
  • citycentrecitycentre Posts: 90
    BigRich said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    We'll never be 'safe'. But we have to, at some point, say that we're 'safe enough'.

    For me, that point was about 12 months ago.
    For me that should have been at the end of the '3 weeks to save the NHS' by which point deaths had peeked, we know a lot about the virus, and could see that hospitals would be busy but not overrun and everybody was still keen to voluntarily do what they could.
    i remember at the time there was unanimous support for lockdown continuing especially on here
  • citycentrecitycentre Posts: 90
    Remember lockdowns as we had them would have been impossible to do in the 1990s as there was not the technology. We would have just had to get on with it
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited June 2021
    I’m on France AH(0) (DNB) @ 2.15

    Reasonable odds, IMO

    Hopefully it’ll be a good game
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492

    BigRich said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    We'll never be 'safe'. But we have to, at some point, say that we're 'safe enough'.

    For me, that point was about 12 months ago.
    For me that should have been at the end of the '3 weeks to save the NHS' by which point deaths had peeked, we know a lot about the virus, and could see that hospitals would be busy but not overrun and everybody was still keen to voluntarily do what they could.
    i remember at the time there was unanimous support for lockdown continuing especially on here
    Not form mw there was not. I was positing at the time, though I was also a bit busy at work so not as often as now, and I continued to post for a few months after that, before getting so frustrated, I decided to give PB a brake and did not come back till about a month ago.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802

    There were queues round the block of very young people at Petersfield vaccination centre today. Dozens and dozens of them.

    No let up as far as I can see.

    That's great but to what end now? The scientists are saying vaccination isn't enough to bring an end to this. The whole political class is letting us down by giving this scientists a free hand to reshape the nature of this country without even as much as a single vote.
  • citycentrecitycentre Posts: 90
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I felt I should share this with PBers, so they can imagine life after Boris grows a pair:


    The delta coronavirus variant has California experts worried. Here's what you need to know

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/The-delta-coronavirus-variant-has-California-16240411.php

    Still just a VOI in Ca - lets hope it stays that way....
    Yep, and it will run through unvaccinated communities. But because the most vulnerable are vaccinated, it won't lead to hospitals becoming overrun. Instead, it will probably just result in the vaccination rate ticking up.
    The delta variant will rip through unvaxed people everywhere, Europe, America, Asia. Millions will die. That’s just a fact. But millions die every week

    The rich world will be ok. It’s the 3rd unvaxed World which is deeply concerning

    But the third world doesn’t have many oldies or fatties.
    It does, however have lots of poverty. And thanks to lockdowns it is getting lots more.
    I think in the 3rd world they have bigger things to worry about than covid...like getting enough to eat maybe
  • And BBC now running the GB News story...explaining what is cancel culture and woke....not sure GB News could have paid for that publicity.

    Speaking to BBC News on Tuesday, Richard Wilson, director of media group Stop Funding Hate, said that the immediate controversial tone meant "it's no surprise" that a reputable brand such as Kopparberg are "stepping away, and refusing to align with this".

    The group has begun compiling a list of brands advertising on the fledgling channel - urging its 120,000 followers on Twitter to exert pressure on them on social media.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-57483907

    We have a little list....we put people and companies on our list....and invite a pile on.

    Fucking Nazis.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492

    Remember lockdowns as we had them would have been impossible to do in the 1990s as there was not the technology. We would have just had to get on with it

    As a result most would have had the original variant, and built up some immunity, meaning no, or at least less impact form 'new more deadly variants'
  • citycentrecitycentre Posts: 90
    To be fair the powers that be have used covid to orchestrate a massive bailout of the financial system via money printing so for rich oligarchs covid has been very useful
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    MaxPB said:

    There were queues round the block of very young people at Petersfield vaccination centre today. Dozens and dozens of them.

    No let up as far as I can see.

    That's great but to what end now? The scientists are saying vaccination isn't enough to bring an end to this. The whole political class is letting us down by giving this scientists a free hand to reshape the nature of this country without even as much as a single vote.
    But the paradox here is that people support the lockdown. If there was a vote they would probably extend it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,432

    And BBC now running the GB News story...explaining what is cancel culture and woke....not sure GB News could have paid for that publicity.

    Speaking to BBC News on Tuesday, Richard Wilson, director of media group Stop Funding Hate, said that the immediate controversial tone meant "it's no surprise" that a reputable brand such as Kopparberg are "stepping away, and refusing to align with this".

    The group has begun compiling a list of brands advertising on the fledgling channel - urging its 120,000 followers on Twitter to exert pressure on them on social media.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-57483907

    We have a little list....we put people and companies on our list....and invite a pile on.

    Fucking Nazis.
    They can easily be overruled by a countercampaign threatening an ever bigger boycott.

    We heavily outnumber them. But, you have to turn the thumbscrew first.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    FF43 said:

    dixiedean said:

    ping said:

    alex_ said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?

    No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
    Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.

    Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
    Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
    It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.

    The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.

    GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.

    Bust within a year, I recon
    They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.

    However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.

    That's when people really switch on live TV news.

    The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.

    If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
    Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity?
    A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near.

    Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
    Its not the aim of the channel.
    Shades of Voltaire. GB News is not great, is not British and is not news
    Apart from smashing down the walls of evil wokedom GBNews is far less impressive than promised.

    a) Should pictures lipsync with sound? Or is it optional these days?

    b) Is it filmed in Andrew Neil's garage?

    c) Why does Dan Wooton bother having guests when he always talks over them?

    d) Oops, more alarmed advertiser's pull their commercials unknowingly booked on their behalf by agents.

    e) Are Kirsty Gallagher and Simon McCoy pleading with Sky and the BBC for their old jobs back yet?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,928
    BigRich said:

    Remember lockdowns as we had them would have been impossible to do in the 1990s as there was not the technology. We would have just had to get on with it

    As a result most would have had the original variant, and built up some immunity, meaning no, or at least less impact form 'new more deadly variants'
    Wouldn't it have made variants more likely given how many people would have had it simultaneously?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802
    darkage said:

    MaxPB said:

    There were queues round the block of very young people at Petersfield vaccination centre today. Dozens and dozens of them.

    No let up as far as I can see.

    That's great but to what end now? The scientists are saying vaccination isn't enough to bring an end to this. The whole political class is letting us down by giving this scientists a free hand to reshape the nature of this country without even as much as a single vote.
    But the paradox here is that people support the lockdown. If there was a vote they would probably extend it.
    No, I think if permanent lockdown was put to a vote it would lose. The issue here is that they're boiling the frog and idiots like Boris are falling for it.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,822

    BigRich said:

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    We'll never be 'safe'. But we have to, at some point, say that we're 'safe enough'.

    For me, that point was about 12 months ago.
    For me that should have been at the end of the '3 weeks to save the NHS' by which point deaths had peeked, we know a lot about the virus, and could see that hospitals would be busy but not overrun and everybody was still keen to voluntarily do what they could.
    i remember at the time there was unanimous support for lockdown continuing especially on here
    For long parts of the time lockdown was the right policy, although I accept I did not factor in how hard it would be to get back to normality. Even if I had understood lockdown might last much longer than necessary I don't think it would change my mind that it was needed in spring 2020 and over this winter. I became a moderate lockdown sceptic in about April and now feel quite strongly about it, up til then I was in support.

    I don't see anything inconsistent between my current objections and my prior support as the situation changes very quickly.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    MaxPB said:

    There were queues round the block of very young people at Petersfield vaccination centre today. Dozens and dozens of them.

    No let up as far as I can see.

    That's great but to what end now? The scientists are saying vaccination isn't enough to bring an end to this. The whole political class is letting us down by giving this scientists a free hand to reshape the nature of this country without even as much as a single vote.
    I'm as angry and disappointed at the continuation of restrictions as anyone else but that's not really accurate.

    Its ridiculous this garbage was swallowed from the scientists and its irritating nobody with the numeracy and balls to stand up to them said "wait, this is ridiculous" or even "what JCVI groups will these tens of thousands dead be from ...

    ... But in 4 weeks time every single adult in the country will be vaccinated that wants to be, anyone left unvaccinated its their own damned fault by then, which isn't the case today. In 4 weeks time there'll be millions more with second jabs.

    So as ridiculous as this extension is, its not permanent.
  • AnExileinD4AnExileinD4 Posts: 337
    MaxPB said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Fuck them

    “Scientists advising the government have warned that even in three weeks they might not be able to say with confidence whether lockdown restrictions can be lifted without the NHS being overwhelmed”

    https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1404865313951391748?s=21

    I trust that you will still be saying that if you contract a variant.
    I genuinely don’t care any more. If this fucking virus is going to kill me, so be it. I’m double jabbed, I’ve sheltered on and off for 16 months, I don’t have THAT many handsome, virile years left

    I’d rather take my chances now, in an economy that isn’t in total ruins, and where my daughters have a future
    You are a lot younger than I am, your view is very different to mine . I am double jabbed, my wife and 91 Yr old father in law are.. but I want to know how safe we are from.the variants..
    Then stay in your house all day. No one is asking you to go outside. You and your wanker zero COVID cult are keeping the rest of us who are fine with the tiny risk locked down indefinitely.
    Robust. You neglected to add, put your shopping in the garage for a couple of days because “you can’t be sure”, wear tatty gloves but fondle every bloody fruit and vegetable in the shops, jump sideways as somebody comes close and wear a mask beneath the nostrils because “it’s so hard to breath”.

    Room temperature IQ the lot of them.
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