> As already pointed out (new) date tested by this poll is July not June (a typo)
> Also, 38% is NOT "most" voters, but rather more voters than the next alternative which is too soon.
> Most (or more?) significant is fact that in this poll only smallish 1-to-5 minority thinks that mid-July is too late. However, it appears, certainly on PB but also elsewhere, that the INTENSITY level is greater among those who want all or nearly all restrictions lifted now if not sooner.
> Possible that this intensity gap means the most/more impatient cohort will punch above it's weight in coming by-elections, balanced to some degree by somewhat greater propensity of older (thus more frequent) voters to be in favor of keeping the lid on for another month, or even longer.
"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.
How is your confident, emphatic prediction of 10,000 daily positive tests by last Friday working out for you?
Don't count your chickens just yet old boy...
I'm not counting anything other than your very confident, yet completely wrong, predictions.
If cases end up being less than my predictions then fine it's a good outcome.
What I do want to see is that the reopening process is realistic and appropriate given the clear continuing threat of the Delta variant. Hopefully the additional 4 weeks will be sufficient to make the necessary further progress on vaccines etc, and when we get there no-one will be more pleased than me to see full reopening.
I'm not for a moment suggesting you want it to go on! I am merely noting your very emphatic, confident predictions that have proved wrong. You shouldn't be so sure of yourself, maybe...?
Maybe I should include a 'beware of this prediction it might be rubbish' disclaimer with each of my posts!
If anything I'd have thought the advertisers on GB News might be more put off by the slightly weird way they letterbox the picture for adverts so they can continue to scroll the ticker, rather than put the ad full screen.
That's a weird one because the advert becomes a touch smaller, on the other hand if you're reading the ticker you might actually be more likely to look at the screen and pay attention to the advert.
Certainly I notice adverts more on Sky Sports News during Soccer Saturday when they do letterbox adverts, more than any normal live TV, as you don't switch off attention as much from the TV.
Although Sky Sports News have the scrolling bar and right side bar lined up neatly so it looks less of a weird letterbox. The absence of a side bar on GB News makes the letterbox look more weird.
7th day in a row that reported cases are within 500 of 7650.
Remarkably flat considering we're told it's about to hit 250,000 in a few weeks.
It's a very sharp w-o-w fall in the inflation rate. Much more than I could ever hoped for. Into the 30s...
Just noise?
Right now there are members of SAGE modelling teams praying for a case surge. The evidence from Bolton, Bedford and Blackburn is they will be disappointed.
Once can only hope there is anyone left in Government to point out the nonsense and invoke the 2 week break clause on the extension of restrictions.
If the surge doesn't happen I'd be very happy. If a short delay to further easing helps that so much the better.
Check your privilege – 50,000 brides facing 'socially distanced' weddings...
God you are an idiot at times. I have had one AZN jab, 67 with high BP and other health issues. I must wait till the end of July for the second. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you can shove your brides where the sun doesn't shine. Moron.
I thought you lived in Spain? In which case, the weddings / 21 June / 19 July consequences don't affect you?
I do not appreciate being told to 'check my privilege' and I was unaware there was a ban on commenting from other countries. You'd better tell OGH junior. Your wittering on about brides day in and day out is enough to try the patience of a saint and that I do not claim to be.
Given it's the only change of note forthcoming on 21 June, it's the key issue to discuss. It's hardly trivial – it affects 50,000 weddings. Absolutely stupid rules over 'social distancing' are wrecking them. My anger is not with you personally, but a general point about people supporting restrictions that have no impact on them personally.
Social distancing in pubs? Restaurants? Performance venues? Sports stadia? There's at least 50,000 extra people who would love to cram into Wembley on Friday.
Weddings are not the be all and end all here. Just one of many things affected, and I agree with you on this part, probably unnecessarily.
Disclaimer: I had 6 people present at my wedding and I went back to work in the afternoon.
Wimbledon and Wembley are seriously lobbying for full outdoor crowds. Silverstone are close to a 150k sellout for the F1 on 18th July.
Silverstone probably the most sensible of those as not many use public transport and a lot of the venue is outside, even if everyone does get stuck in traffic jams...
Yep, they’re pushing really hard. The venue itself is massive, 550 acres, and even though it’s the largest ticketed event of the whole summer sporting calendar, almost everyone is outside and well distanced apart from the grandstands.
Maybe they’ll let the general attendance go ahead, but restrict the prawn sandwich brigade who spend their day indoors.?
(I returned my ticket, rolled over from last year). Damn pandemic!
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Twenty years of Fox News and their non-stop diet of partisan outrage, alternative facts and loose grip on reality gave the US stuff like Q-Anon and an attempted coup. It's not surprising that efforts to set up something similar here (with backing from the same kind of offshore money that funded the post-truth Brexit campaign) have got people worried. Is it worth trying to set up an advertising blockade? Probably not. But if most of a product's target market doesn't like a particular media outlet, the chances are that the firm is wasting its advertising budget anyway. No doubt a Hampshire-based contributor will pop up soon to call me a bigot, but I can't see skincare products, trendy alcoholic beverages or higher education bring very popular with GBN's core audience.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Interesting graphic from the Telegraph, who appear to be rapidly breaking off their support of the government...
That actually really annoyed me. They actually showed projections going into the future as well as the current data. And the Telegraph conveniently ignored the start of the second and first waves, which looked awfully similar.
Not sure about Telegraph breaking off support. They have featured a steady stream of commentators and opinion pieces on why lockdown isn't working and so on. See their Planet Normal podcast for example.
Talk Radio and the Telegraph have been the biggest pushers of anti-lockdown / faster opening of any of the mainstream media.
The mail seems to veer from lock me down harder and faster, to 10 mins later, running pieces saying why are the government locking down so hard, what about my uman rights.
It's a shame there haven't been more lockdown-critical voices from the left. Zoe Williams at the Guardian is the sole outrider, although Sadiq Khan has moved sharply against it in recent times.
Sadiq Khan. His opinion is worth about a row of beans..
Yes, that's right. He's only the Mayor of London, the man with the second-biggest direct mandate in Europe.
Noone pays any attention to anything he says. He has been completely anonymous in his first term.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
If my prediction that cases are fulling on or before 21 June (By specimen date and mid point of 7 day average) is not correct, then I will fully and profoundly apologise, and give OGH £100 as penance.
Or if others wish to suggest alternatives, buy the first round at the first Post pandemic PB Gettogether perhaps?
(as its by specimen date will need to leave it a week to confirm the trend.)
I think it's pretty simple: advertisers will do this if the sales they lose from not bending to Stop Funding Hate cost them more than they'd otherwise gain from advertising to viewers of GB News. They may change their views again too if there's a backlash against the backlash that costs them even more.
If it's their young trendy Twitter operator calling the shots at present, then they'll be overruled just as Co-op did on the Spectator "boycott".
LOL, the left really are the People's Front For Judea.
Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
I made the mistake of assuming they had a team of social media engagement officers.
LOL, the left really are the People's Front For Judea.
Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.
How centrist is Gerard Coyne? If he wins, and I have no idea if that is possible or Likely, might he disaffiliate from the Labour Party? can he or does he need a vote of members? if its possible then that's big news, because of the size of the Unites fudging to the labour party.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Agreed.
That being said... I'm very surprised anyone is advertising on GBN right now: simply you have so little idea about the viewership figures (or demographics), so working out ROIs is going to be extremely hard.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Agreed.
That being said... I'm very surprised anyone is advertising on GBN right now: simply you have so little idea about the viewership figures (or demographics), so working out ROIs is going to be extremely hard.
I think GB News offered very cheap advertising rates for the first month.
I have watched GBnews instead of Sky when Burley is on and it is obvious they have technical problems and their studio is rubbish but the content is different and anything is better than Burley
However, I prefer Sky presentation and format and tend to leave Sky on in the background
I am surprised at their lack of technical guidance, as many on here highlight, and I find it odd advertisers are pulling out probably due to the twitter campaign from the left which indicates they are worried about the channel
I would be surprised if they fold, even in the next twelve months, and disappointed as Sky and the BBC need competition
No doubt they will have experts reviewing their issues and the initial response and of course they should be able to adapt as they go on
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Agreed.
That being said... I'm very surprised anyone is advertising on GBN right now: simply you have so little idea about the viewership figures (or demographics), so working out ROIs is going to be extremely hard.
I always assumed that the contracts where drafted to include the viewing fingers, so that if on the day, viewership is up and more watch, then more is paid.
The "boycott" might backfire in a way....the Mail etc will run it as a story of cancel culture, GB News will probably highlight it and say the best way you can support us is to watch, shows the advertisers that we are worth advertising on and a lots of oldie don't like this stuff of boycotting things because of twitter, it goes against their idea of fairness....they might find they end up with higher viewership as oldies tune in determine not to let the woke warriors win.
Who can forget the boycott Tunnocks "British" Teacakes...they were flying off the shelves.
I have watched GBnews instead of Sky when Burley is on and it is obvious they have technical problems and their studio is rubbish but the content is different and anything is better than Burley
However, I prefer Sky presentation and format and tend to leave Sky on in the background
I am surprised at their lack of technical guidance, as many on here highlight, and I find it odd advertisers are pulling out probably due to the twitter campaign from the left which indicates they are worried about the channel
I would be surprised if they fold, even in the next twelve months, and disappointed as Sky and the BBC need competition
No doubt they will have experts reviewing their issues and the initial response and of course they should be able to adapt as they go on
Time will tell
It looks like they're trying to get by with very few technical support staff.
I have watched GBnews instead of Sky when Burley is on and it is obvious they have technical problems and their studio is rubbish but the content is different and anything is better than Burley
However, I prefer Sky presentation and format and tend to leave Sky on in the background
I am surprised at their lack of technical guidance, as many on here highlight, and I find it odd advertisers are pulling out probably due to the twitter campaign from the left which indicates they are worried about the channel
I would be surprised if they fold, even in the next twelve months, and disappointed as Sky and the BBC need competition
No doubt they will have experts reviewing their issues and the initial response and of course they should be able to adapt as they go on
Time will tell
It looks like they're trying to get by with very few technical support staff.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
Got a 55" UHD 4K TV for £279, only to then realise the Euros aren't being broadcast in 4k by the BBC. 😕
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Agreed.
That being said... I'm very surprised anyone is advertising on GBN right now: simply you have so little idea about the viewership figures (or demographics), so working out ROIs is going to be extremely hard.
I always assumed that the contracts where drafted to include the viewing fingers, so that if on the day, viewership is up and more watch, then more is paid.
But I don't work in the industry so may be wrong.
That's almost certainly right. And it's entirely possible that GBN is following the principle of giving advertising space away, because that's easier than producing additional content.
(Which may well be why the OU was advertising on GBN.)
The open University, as a government funded organisation should not be pulling advertisements as a political action.
The others are free to do as they chose, just as I am free to avide buying there goods.
However it is both revelling how much the 'left' fears an alternative to the BBC, and sad at the power they have to influence advertisers.
Agreed.
That being said... I'm very surprised anyone is advertising on GBN right now: simply you have so little idea about the viewership figures (or demographics), so working out ROIs is going to be extremely hard.
I always assumed that the contracts where drafted to include the viewing fingers, so that if on the day, viewership is up and more watch, then more is paid.
But I don't work in the industry so may be wrong.
Depends on the channel.
Some work like that (ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, and the major Sky channels) but your lower end channels like CBS Justice don't.
Things like Sky Plus and on demand have totally changed advertising rates.
So apart from sports and news very few people watch normal channels live.
That's why you see more channel/show sponsors, where you can't miss the adverts.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
I made the mistake of assuming they had a team of social media engagement officers.
WTF?
Do they not have any professionals working for them?
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
Got a 55" UHD 4K TV for £279, only to then realise the Euros aren't being broadcast in 4k by the BBC. 😕
It is, if you have the right TV, you can watch in 4k.
LOL, the left really are the People's Front For Judea.
Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.
How centrist is Gerard Coyne? If he wins, and I have no idea if that is possible or Likely, might he disaffiliate from the Labour Party? can he or does he need a vote of members? if its possible then that's big news, because of the size of the Unites fudging to the labour party.
Hell no, he's been a Labour member for 30 years. He says he's against being a back-seat driver for the party and will concentrate on members, instead of the activist stance that McCluskey has pursued. The candidate who has flirted with disaffiliation is Beckett, because he feels the party has gone too far to the right. Turner is the middle-of-the-road candidate in union terms, favouring a "critical left" position but a less public stance than McCluskey.
The "boycott" might backfire in a way....the Mail etc will run it as a story of cancel culture, GB News will probably highlight it and say the best way you can support us is to watch, shows the advertisers that we are worth advertising on and a lots of oldie don't like this stuff of boycotting things because of twitter, it goes against their idea of fairness....they might find they end up with higher viewership as oldies tune in determine not to let the woke warriors win.
Who can forget the boycott Tunnocks "British" Teacakes...they were flying off the shelves.
Yes I'd imagine they're luvin it. Probably be a Neil monologue coming up.
LOL, the left really are the People's Front For Judea.
Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
A third jab, or a pill of some sort, certainly is inevitable.
You can expect mandatory masks on public transport and in shops until Spring 2022 minimum.
They’re not really mandatory now, it’s by popular consent. Because all you need to do is say you’re exempt and that’s that.
Yeah, I have been on public transport (bus to my work place) twice a day more or less every single day since Covid began. I can only think of a couple of times when a driver has made a comment about mask wearing to someone not wearing one. They just don't want to deal with the hassle and I don't blame them.
If you say you are exempt they never question it.
Makes me laugh seeing more and more people using masks as chin warmers, masks full down but resting under their chin. Even with the older populace who are most vulnerable.
If they get rid of masks they get rid, honestly I think for a while I will keep wearing my ones for a while especially during certain times of the year like winter. I wear them all day at work, don't bother me one bit.
The longer this goes on for, the more I'm tempted to just buy one of those "hidden disability" lanyards so I can dispense with the bleeding masks, at least for train journeys and big shopping expeditions where you spend your time going in and out of places.
The only thing that really puts me off is the belligerence of random angry strangers. My husband, who is severely asthmatic and genuinely entitled to be free of wretched masks, persists with them for the same reason.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
From what I read they don't.
They can do comment but not live breaking news.
Say another 9/11 happens (and I hope it doesn't) GB News will be reliant on taking things off social media.
LOL, the left really are the People's Front For Judea.
Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.
The fact 4k is still "trial" is f##king ridiculous. As for ITV, strip them of the rights.
Again most big YouTubers are 4k now....Sky and BT have had UHD for donkeys years now.
The BBC are hamstrung as their output has to be platform neutral. So they can't open a 4k channel on Sky without offering to all other platforms, even the ones that cannot do 4k.
They have lobbied the government to get this changed in the way they were allowed to launch 24 dedicated Olympic channels in 2012.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
The fact 4k is still "trial" is f##king ridiculous. As for ITV, strip them of the rights.
Again most big YouTubers are 4k now....Sky and BT have had UHD for donkeys years now.
The BBC are hamstrung as their output has to be platform neutral. So they can't open a 4k channel on Sky without offering to all other platforms, even the ones that cannot do 4k.
They have lobbied the government to get this changed in the way they were allowed to launch 24 dedicated Olympic channels in 2012.
Yes but iPlayer isn't fully 4k compatible either...its "trial".....certain tellies, not via computers etc....but I fire up YouTube on anything and I can get 4k.
And remember they aren't doing any of the actual 4k capture, it is just the processing / distribution side of things.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
Its not the aim of the channel.
Well. As @TSE points out. Fat lot of use as a "news" channel then.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
Its not the aim of the channel.
Well. As @TSE points out. Fat lot of use as a "news" channel then.
No, there is a market for news and current affairs that isn't breaking news....Boris gave Biden a fist bumb.....breaking news....Macron gave Biden a hug....
YouTube and podcasts have shown there is a decent market out there for people wanting to know more about what is going on in the world with a more in-depth analysis of current topics, without having to listen to a Kay Burley get way too excited because she "gotcha'ed" a politician...sick burn....career ender say twitter....etc
But GB News isn't that either.
Dr John Campbell gets more viewers than BBC News, Sky and GB News combined for his nightly 30 mins on COVID.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
At best it will be things like nightclubs can re-open but only to those who are vaccinated or recently tested.
It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
Its not the aim of the channel.
Well. As @TSE points out. Fat lot of use as a "news" channel then.
No, there is a market for news and current affairs that isn't breaking news....Boris gave Biden a fist bumb.....breaking news....Macron gave Biden a hug....
YouTube and podcasts have shown there is a decent market out there for people wanting to know more about what is going on in the world with a more in-depth analysis of current topics, without having to listen to a Kay Burley get way too excited because she "gotcha'ed" a politician...sick burn....career ender say twitter....etc
But GB News isn't that either.
Think of GB News as a newspaper you buy.
All you get is the comment section and not much reporting of the news.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary
Sky and BBC are no better informed than twitter in most live news situations - no reason GBNews can't chat along about it without boots on the ground.
Increasingly that is exactly what they do...read out tweets. When somebody dies, I don't give a shit what a z list celeb tweeted about how they once met that person and they were an inspiration.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
Its not the aim of the channel.
Well. As @TSE points out. Fat lot of use as a "news" channel then.
No, there is a market for news and current affairs that isn't breaking news....Boris gave Biden a fist bumb.....breaking news....Macron gave Biden a hug....
YouTube and podcasts have shown there is a decent market out there for people wanting to know more about what is going on in the world with a more in-depth analysis of current topics, without having to listen to a Kay Burley get way too excited because she "gotcha'ed" a politician...sick burn....
But GB News isn't that either.
I'm sure there is such a market. Not sure a TV channel is the best way of delivering such content. And, as you say, it doesn't seem to be attempting too. It is a bit of a neither fish nor fowl thus far.
Listen to the audio on that! Calling it amateur hour would be very unkind to the many amateurs who do vastly better.
Shocking sound quality. It's also surprising they did not move slightly to avoid the idiot waving in the background like it is 1999. Not to mention, who cares?
As an aside, I see @rcs1000 has tweaked the outgoing link technology again.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
Its not the aim of the channel.
Well. As @TSE points out. Fat lot of use as a "news" channel then.
No, there is a market for news and current affairs that isn't breaking news....Boris gave Biden a fist bumb.....breaking news....Macron gave Biden a hug....
YouTube and podcasts have shown there is a decent market out there for people wanting to know more about what is going on in the world with a more in-depth analysis of current topics, without having to listen to a Kay Burley get way too excited because she "gotcha'ed" a politician...sick burn....
But GB News isn't that either.
I'm sure there is such a market. Not sure a TV channel is the best way of delivering such content. And, as you say, it doesn't seem to be attempting too. It is a bit of a neither fish nor fowl thus far.
Well Rupert Murdochs initial idea for UK News (or whatever it was going to be called) was 6-11pm, in-depth shows.
I think with the right people that can work. 20-30 mins proper analysis on COVID without the zero covidians or the there is no covid idiots, people will watch that. Actually they do, not just Campbell.
Channels like UnHerd again shows people will watch 30 mins interviewing interesting people who are in and around the news.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
At best it will be things like nightclubs can re-open but only to those who are vaccinated or recently tested.
It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
I have noticed there seems to be a lot less face mask wearing and to be honest at my daughters 50th birthday last week it was as if everything was normal with no face masks, social distancing, and lots of hugs and even hand shakes
I just think most people, especially those vaccinated, will just get on with their lives
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Do they have any kind of foreign news capacity? A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near. Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
Its not the aim of the channel.
That's the odd thing. Why call it GBNews if it is not a news channel?
The message seems to be that the govt should give businesses more money.
I thought they said they were going to be different from the BBC and Sky?
To be fair, I think their position is not to necessarily have a consistent position.
In theory, I'm the target market for GB News. Interested in news, annoyed by the consistent woke/left/Remain line taken by BBC and Sky, receptive to Andrew Neil. But so consistently shit has TV news been over the past 20 years that I have just got out of the habit of watching it at all. I can't now imagine sitting down to watch what a broadcaster has to say about current events, even one I don't fundamentally disagree with.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
Thanks mate. That makes me feel better. And if I stopped listening to anyone who was ever wrong about anything I'd never listen to anyone again.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary
Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.
The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.
You learn that picture quality is important.
But august publications have picked up on things like that.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
At best it will be things like nightclubs can re-open but only to those who are vaccinated or recently tested.
It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
I have noticed there seems to be a lot less face mask wearing and to be honest at my daughters 50th birthday last week it was as if everything was normal with no face masks, social distancing, and lots of hugs and even hand shakes
I just think most people, especially those vaccinated, will just get on with their lives
Wearing a mask if you're vaccinated is mostly about other people's lives. Broken record territory I know.
If it was just me and the bug I'd go all single combat mode, bear my chest, and die horribly due to a stubbed toe on the way to the arena.
The message seems to be that the govt should give businesses more money.
I thought they said they were going to be different from the BBC and Sky?
To be fair, I think their position is not to necessarily have a consistent position.
In theory, I'm the target market for GB News. Interested in news, annoyed by the consistent woke/left/Remain line taken by BBC and Sky, receptive to Andrew Neil. But so consistently shit has TV news been over the past 20 years that I have just got out of the habit of watching it at all. I can't now imagine sitting down to watch what a broadcaster has to say about current events, even one I don't fundamentally disagree with.
Where perhaps they could distinguish themselves if long form interviews with politicians with the promise they wouldn't be interrupt-athons / ambushes....but the downside of having Andrew Neil, is most politicians aren't going to risk it.
I would actually be interested to know what Starmer's vision is. I don't really care for the Piers Morgan type interview, what I want to know is if he got in, what would he do.
UnHerd had Chairman Mao, I mean Houchen, and he was really interesting to listen to. His position on lots of things was not classical stereotypical Tory at all. He laid out quite a clear vision of what he has done so far and what he deems he needs to do in the future.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary
Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.
The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.
You learn that picture quality is important.
But august publications have picked up on things like that.
The "boycott" might backfire in a way....the Mail etc will run it as a story of cancel culture, GB News will probably highlight it and say the best way you can support us is to watch, shows the advertisers that we are worth advertising on and a lots of oldie don't like this stuff of boycotting things because of twitter, it goes against their idea of fairness....they might find they end up with higher viewership as oldies tune in determine not to let the woke warriors win.
Who can forget the boycott Tunnocks "British" Teacakes...they were flying off the shelves.
It almost makes you yearn for the days of Tories demanding the government pull advertising from the Guardian.
"our ad ran on this channel without our knowledge or consent" wait what GB News has free advertising ?
No they will have block booked a load of advertising through some 3rd party...it is how brands have ended up having their ads run on unsavoury websites.
Yup, my friend had this, she's in charge of sponsorship and advertising and was asked by a concerned customer why they were advertising on pornographic websites.
Never did she expect to have with revenge porn in her day job.
Isn’t this the old issue of the advertising targeting the individual not the websites?
It’s also the fundamental problem for the GB news format as it currently exists.
The ad money doesn’t cover the costs of producing the content.
GB news would have had a fighting chance 20 years ago. Not now.
Bust within a year, I recon
They are well resourced, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the Discovery Plus suite of subscription channels.
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
They’re still uploading YouTube videos in 360p. Major f***up.
Jesus.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
Your dedication to research porn sites on our behalf is exemplary
Believe it or not, this was mostly of work related.
The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.
You learn that picture quality is important.
But august publications have picked up on things like that.
Listen to the audio on that! Calling it amateur hour would be very unkind to the many amateurs who do vastly better.
It has to be said, though, that the whole Zoom thing is probably making viewers a lot more forgiving than they would have been otherwise, because it's become normal on Sky and BBC for interviews to be disrupted by broadband connection problems.
There is a tantalising prospect that, at this rate, week-on-week positive tests might actually start to fall by 21 June.
Which would be simultaneously comedic, ironic and tragic. What would happen if that were to occur?
Of course, it might not happen. Probably won't. But the numbers, as they are, suggest that it's not an outlandish prospect that @BigRich could prove correct – that Boris should simply have delayed 72 hours, and opened up on Thursday 24 June, leaving the first weekend free...
What would happen if they started falling on or around 21 June?
What would happen? It wouldn't make any difference.
Nothing would happen then? We'd keep ploughing on with restrictions?
I'm about 60% sure now that restrictions are an end, not a means. So yes. Probably.]
I will be happy and relieved to be proved wrong, but I think the fight is already lost.
You're probably not listening to me anymore - given I told you over and over that 21st June was a wrap - but I really do think this is a fundamental misreading of what's going on. We have incompetence. We have a curious mix of complacency and hypercaution, bombast and insecurity, but what we don't have is government capture by a bunch of authoritarian scientists who will never let us go unmasked on a bus again or snog a stranger in a nightclub. This delay is not evidence of that. July 19th is nailed on. I'm as sure of this as I was about June 21st. No, surer.
At best it will be things like nightclubs can re-open but only to those who are vaccinated or recently tested.
It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
I have noticed there seems to be a lot less face mask wearing and to be honest at my daughters 50th birthday last week it was as if everything was normal with no face masks, social distancing, and lots of hugs and even hand shakes
I just think most people, especially those vaccinated, will just get on with their lives
Doesnt help the millions of people who work in the night time economy though.
"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
The "boycott" might backfire in a way....the Mail etc will run it as a story of cancel culture, GB News will probably highlight it and say the best way you can support us is to watch, shows the advertisers that we are worth advertising on and a lots of oldie don't like this stuff of boycotting things because of twitter, it goes against their idea of fairness....they might find they end up with higher viewership as oldies tune in determine not to let the woke warriors win.
Who can forget the boycott Tunnocks "British" Teacakes...they were flying off the shelves.
It almost makes you yearn for the days of Tories demanding the government pull advertising from the Guardian.
No-one was demanding that the government pull advertising from the Guardian, they were merely asking that they didn’t use that one channel exclusively.
Sky and BBC are no better informed than twitter in most live news situations - no reason GBNews can't chat along about it without boots on the ground.
Cast your mind back to 9/11.
Most of us switched on the news channels after the first plane crashed and we got to see the moment the second plane hit.
GB News wouldn't be able to show that.
Your go to example is 20 years old. Most situations are not so cinematic.
But they wouldn't be able to cover something like the Manchester Arena attack either.
They have a north west correspondant and 99% of coverage could be done just sitting there repeatedly saying how awful it is and sharing twitter takes. It would be pointless watching, but I'm not sure what more you'd be getting from the established channels.
"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
"Sage scientist: Don’t rule out more delays Susan Michie believes lockdown might not end in July — and facemasks could be here forever BY FREDDIE SAYERS"
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> Also, 38% is NOT "most" voters, but rather more voters than the next alternative which is too soon.
> Most (or more?) significant is fact that in this poll only smallish 1-to-5 minority thinks that mid-July is too late. However, it appears, certainly on PB but also elsewhere, that the INTENSITY level is greater among those who want all or nearly all restrictions lifted now if not sooner.
> Possible that this intensity gap means the most/more impatient cohort will punch above it's weight in coming by-elections, balanced to some degree by somewhat greater propensity of older (thus more frequent) voters to be in favor of keeping the lid on for another month, or even longer.
I thought most posters assumed that anyway!
Certainly I notice adverts more on Sky Sports News during Soccer Saturday when they do letterbox adverts, more than any normal live TV, as you don't switch off attention as much from the TV.
Although Sky Sports News have the scrolling bar and right side bar lined up neatly so it looks less of a weird letterbox. The absence of a side bar on GB News makes the letterbox look more weird.
Maybe they’ll let the general attendance go ahead, but restrict the prawn sandwich brigade who spend their day indoors.?
(I returned my ticket, rolled over from last year). Damn pandemic!
However given their set up I think they will struggle, they won't be able to cover major breaking news.
That's when people really switch on live TV news.
The picture quality is the thing that has left me dumbfounded.
If I can record and broadcast in 4k and 60fps then I'd expect a decent HD picture quality from GB News.
Is it worth trying to set up an advertising blockade? Probably not. But if most of a product's target market doesn't like a particular media outlet, the chances are that the firm is wasting its advertising budget anyway. No doubt a Hampshire-based contributor will pop up soon to call me a bigot, but I can't see skincare products, trendy alcoholic beverages or higher education bring very popular with GBN's core audience.
If it's their young trendy Twitter operator calling the shots at present, then they'll be overruled just as Co-op did on the Spectator "boycott".
Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.
https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1404836467654987779
I made the mistake of assuming they had a team of social media engagement officers.
To think some porn sites have a minimum 720p/1080p requirement for uploads.
It is bonkers when most phones and TVs are now 1080p as standard.
I saw the other day you can buy a decent 4k TV for less than £300 now.
That being said... I'm very surprised anyone is advertising on GBN right now: simply you have so little idea about the viewership figures (or demographics), so working out ROIs is going to be extremely hard.
However, I prefer Sky presentation and format and tend to leave Sky on in the background
I am surprised at their lack of technical guidance, as many on here highlight, and I find it odd advertisers are pulling out probably due to the twitter campaign from the left which indicates they are worried about the channel
I would be surprised if they fold, even in the next twelve months, and disappointed as Sky and the BBC need competition
No doubt they will have experts reviewing their issues and the initial response and of course they should be able to adapt as they go on
Time will tell
But I don't work in the industry so may be wrong.
Who can forget the boycott Tunnocks "British" Teacakes...they were flying off the shelves.
The message seems to be that the govt should give businesses more money.
(Which may well be why the OU was advertising on GBN.)
Some work like that (ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, and the major Sky channels) but your lower end channels like CBS Justice don't.
Things like Sky Plus and on demand have totally changed advertising rates.
So apart from sports and news very few people watch normal channels live.
That's why you see more channel/show sponsors, where you can't miss the adverts.
Do they not have any professionals working for them?
I've been watching all the BBC matches in 4k.
A fie upon ITV for not showing it in 4k.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/questions/features/uhd-connected-tv/#/Notification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL8SAgPGiaM
Listen to the audio on that! Calling it amateur hour would be very unkind to the many amateurs who do vastly better.
A revolution, war, terrorist atrocity or tsunami would put them on the back foot if they don't have correspondents anywhere near.
Or will they ignore it and bang on about woke?
The only thing that really puts me off is the belligerence of random angry strangers. My husband, who is severely asthmatic and genuinely entitled to be free of wretched masks, persists with them for the same reason.
They can do comment but not live breaking news.
Say another 9/11 happens (and I hope it doesn't) GB News will be reliant on taking things off social media.
Again most big YouTubers are 4k now....Sky and BT have had UHD for donkeys years now.
They have lobbied the government to get this changed in the way they were allowed to launch 24 dedicated Olympic channels in 2012.
And remember they aren't doing any of the actual 4k capture, it is just the processing / distribution side of things.
YouTube and podcasts have shown there is a decent market out there for people wanting to know more about what is going on in the world with a more in-depth analysis of current topics, without having to listen to a Kay Burley get way too excited because she "gotcha'ed" a politician...sick burn....career ender say twitter....etc
But GB News isn't that either.
Dr John Campbell gets more viewers than BBC News, Sky and GB News combined for his nightly 30 mins on COVID.
It is not that the government could care less either way, the only thing they care about is poll ratings and the zoomocracy love lockdown life and vote Tory. That is the problem the government have got themselves into.
All you get is the comment section and not much reporting of the news.
And, as you say, it doesn't seem to be attempting too. It is a bit of a neither fish nor fowl thus far.
Most of us switched on the news channels after the first plane crashed and we got to see the moment the second plane hit.
GB News wouldn't be able to show that.
The audience they’re going after isn’t particularly interested in facts. Just have 24/7 opinion. It’s cheaper and easier.
As an aside, I see @rcs1000 has tweaked the outgoing link technology again.
I think with the right people that can work. 20-30 mins proper analysis on COVID without the zero covidians or the there is no covid idiots, people will watch that. Actually they do, not just Campbell.
Channels like UnHerd again shows people will watch 30 mins interviewing interesting people who are in and around the news.
I just think most people, especially those vaccinated, will just get on with their lives
"Marcus Fysh MP Retweeted
Mark Harper
@Mark_J_Harper
Labour have been a complete waste of space throughout this pandemic.
They are AWOL on the issues that matter and, when they offer an opinion, it’s through hindsight-tinted spectacles.
Ministers up their game when a good official opposition keeps them on their toes."
https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Harper/status/1404779530112442368
In theory, I'm the target market for GB News. Interested in news, annoyed by the consistent woke/left/Remain line taken by BBC and Sky, receptive to Andrew Neil. But so consistently shit has TV news been over the past 20 years that I have just got out of the habit of watching it at all. I can't now imagine sitting down to watch what a broadcaster has to say about current events, even one I don't fundamentally disagree with.
So we watched Tweenies.
Crap goal.
Looks like andy might win his bet
Edit: penalty to portugal
Edit2: 2-0. Bad luck, Andy!
The explosion of YouTubers and Vlogers has all sorts of banking and money laundering regulations that need updating.
You learn that picture quality is important.
But august publications have picked up on things like that.
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/20/porns-dirtiest-secret-what-everyone-gets-paid.html
But porn is big money.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porn-could-bigger-economic-influence-121524565.html
If it was just me and the bug I'd go all single combat mode, bear my chest, and die horribly due to a stubbed toe on the way to the arena.
Edit: bare
I would actually be interested to know what Starmer's vision is. I don't really care for the Piers Morgan type interview, what I want to know is if he got in, what would he do.
UnHerd had Chairman Mao, I mean Houchen, and he was really interesting to listen to. His position on lots of things was not classical stereotypical Tory at all. He laid out quite a clear vision of what he has done so far and what he deems he needs to do in the future.
https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2021-06-15/two-people-fined-3000-for-breaching-coronavirus-rules-in-sark
You’d have got decent odds on 3-0, ten minutes ago.