Now the speculation is that Biden wants to be a two term president – politicalbetting.com

I'm shocked, utterly shocked at this news.

Oh god we are back to the "free by..." Easter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/13807580/ministers-hopeful-pub-march-tier-2/

FPT

Mysticrose said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Morning, all!

Hopefully, we've seen the last of Trump. But who knows, he may go back to being a reality TV "personality"!

In other news, Mum got her first dose of the AZ vaccine last night, though the GP surgery only gave her five hours' notice. Anyway, it was all over in about 5 minutes. Three months' wait for the second dose though.

Great news.

Do you happen to know if she was on the short notice standby? I've a friend who has put herself down for it i.e. a call up if someone can't make their appointment slot. Or was the short notice just lack of planning by the surgery?

She's over-70, so I guess she was just called in as part of this week's roll-out. But they weren't too sure about if and when she could go if she didn't go in last last night. I think she was the last person they jabbed yesterday, at 8.30pm or so. Might be a limited supply issue?

He must give the impression he will run again to avoid being a lame duck from day one. Whether he actually runs again or not is a different question completely. I doubt he will but even he won't know for sure right now.

Completely agree with the last paragraph btw. Presidents get little done, in general, in their second terms because they become lame ducks. If Biden is confirmed as a 1 term President he might start that way.

kle4 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

Crabbie said:

eek said:

Dumbosaurus said:

Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

Other points:

1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

Our Good / Gracious Host

I thought it was our genial host?

I thought it was gracious host but whatever.

I thought it was our generous host?
Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.

I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.

This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.

I know that I am not alone in this country in starting to take anti-depressants during the course of the pandemic. All I can say is that remembering to take your happy pills is *important*. Having missed 2 of the last 5 days (non-consecutive) it has done things to my brain which are very interesting!

Apologies again for Biden-baiting behaviour and being generally snappy yesterday.

kle4 said:

MikeSmithson said:

kle4 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

Crabbie said:

eek said:

Dumbosaurus said:

Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

Other points:

1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

Our Good / Gracious Host

I thought it was our genial host?

I thought it was gracious host but whatever.

I thought it was our generous host?
Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.

I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.

This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.

Thus saith the Lord.

What a disaster. There were definitely opportunities for a market on this. Until now.

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Eh, maybe. I've seen plenty of housing built on land people said flooded a lot and its been fine. Can't always mitigate of course.

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Wonderful spot for a 4-bedroom houseboat.

SandyRentool said:

BBC reporter just said "Green-lighted". Urgh!

Too many BBC reporters are sadly illighterate...

kle4 said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Eh, maybe. I've seen plenty of housing built on land people said flooded a lot and its been fine. Can't always mitigate of course.

At the bottom of the site is the River Roch. Which takes all the outflow off the west side of the Pennine watershed and thanks to a combination of house building and land use changes is prone to flooding a lot.

A mile to the east is Littleborough. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/homes-evacuated-cars-washed-away-10654590
A couple of miles to the west is Rochdale https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/one-year-boxing-day-floods-12371355

The reason why houses hadn't been built there is fairly straight forward...

DavidL said:

kle4 said:

MikeSmithson said:

kle4 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

Crabbie said:

eek said:

Dumbosaurus said:

Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

Other points:

1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

Our Good / Gracious Host

I thought it was our genial host?

I thought it was gracious host but whatever.

I thought it was our generous host?
Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.

I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.

This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.

Thus saith the Lord.

What a disaster. There were definitely opportunities for a market on this. Until now.

We could have a competition on the best alternative "G" word.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Oh god we are back to the "free by..." Easter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/13807580/ministers-hopeful-pub-march-tier-2/

It's just baffling that we seem to be just doing *exactly* what we did before and expecting a different result.

MikeSmithson said:

kle4 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

Crabbie said:

eek said:

Dumbosaurus said:

Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

Other points:

1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

Our Good / Gracious Host

I thought it was our genial host?

I thought it was gracious host but whatever.

I thought it was our generous host?
Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.

I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.

This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.

Blimey! I always spelt the "Genial" with a "t"

mwadams said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Oh god we are back to the "free by..." Easter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/13807580/ministers-hopeful-pub-march-tier-2/

It's just baffling that we seem to be just doing *exactly* what we did before and expecting a different result.

it is beyond belief. just head spinningly stupid to start this ball rolling.

ydoethur said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Thanks, but no tanks (sic).

Do keep up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB-vWOGKOZs

But there is certainly a degree of schadenfreude to be had - especially as the houses haven't been built so there is no moral issue. Unlike the 'Watermeadow' housing development I saw in a Devon town once.

RochdalePioneers said:

kle4 said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Eh, maybe. I've seen plenty of housing built on land people said flooded a lot and its been fine. Can't always mitigate of course.

At the bottom of the site is the River Roch. Which takes all the outflow off the west side of the Pennine watershed and thanks to a combination of house building and land use changes is prone to flooding a lot.

A mile to the east is Littleborough. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/homes-evacuated-cars-washed-away-10654590
A couple of miles to the west is Rochdale https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/one-year-boxing-day-floods-12371355

The reason why houses hadn't been built there is fairly straight forward...

I used to stay with a friend in Littleborough to watch South Lancashire League cricket there. Lovely place. They had Joel Garner and Andy Roberts as their professionals. Sadly, never saw Sir Garfield Sobers, who was their pro just before my time. I don't know who used to negotiate to get these pros, but they should have been on the Brexit team.

There was always some wonderful dry humour from the local supporters, in counterpoint to these terrible wet conditions.

Gallowgate said:

kle4 said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Eh, maybe. I've seen plenty of housing built on land people said flooded a lot and its been fine. Can't always mitigate of course.

Yeah. Most (if not all?) new build estates will be built with SUDs and other drainage systems to withstand "once in 100 years" storm events.

"once in 100 years" storm events. What we now call "rain".

kle4 said:

MikeSmithson said:

kle4 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

Crabbie said:

eek said:

Dumbosaurus said:

Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

Other points:

1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

Our Good / Gracious Host

I thought it was our genial host?

I thought it was gracious host but whatever.

I thought it was our generous host?
Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.

I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.

This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.

Thus saith the Lord.

Thanks be to God.

Carnyx said:

ydoethur said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Thanks, but no tanks (sic).

Do keep up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB-vWOGKOZs

But there is certainly a degree of schadenfreude to be had - especially as the houses haven't been built so there is no moral issue. Unlike the 'Watermeadow' housing development I saw in a Devon town once.

I meant water tanks, Carnyx, or 'tanking' the house (i.e. making it watertight up to a certain point).

We're not all as obsessed with military solutions to everything as Hyufd, you know.

Selebian said:

DavidL said:

One thing that the previous thread made clear is that we should all stick to OGH. Anything else is a recipe for chaos.

We seem to be (mostly) ok with O and H, but the G is problematic. I thought it was 'good'.

Although I've been here a while now and still not offered a drink, so maybe not that good a host.

Grudging?

Sunil_Prasannan said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Designed for swimming, more like

Near where I grew up, a developer proposed to build on some land that traditionally flooded.

The plan was actually quite interesting - build a causeway/road, with houses off it, all raised above the surrounding area, to a level well above previous flooding. A considerable area wouldn't be built on, and left as floodable. In addition the developer proposed improvements to drainage to offset the loss of volume to the works.

The application got turned down, because councillors were worried that the design would give the impression the area flooded a lot.

Some years later, someone built on the edges of the area. With no mitigation. Strangely, this has flooded, several times.

It also reminds me of the bungalow that was for sale at a couple of years back on the other side of the river to Ironbridge. It was small but there was plenty of space available to expand.

Last year when Ironbridge was being protected from flooding I could just about make out its roofline when the camera panned round.

TOPPING said:

SandyRentool said:

BBC reporter just said "Green-lighted". Urgh!

I hate it when people verb things.

Yes, it horribles.

Any way it should be greenlight - present; greenlit - past

kinabalu said:

DavidL said:

Completely agree with the last paragraph btw. Presidents get little done, in general, in their second terms because they become lame ducks. If Biden is confirmed as a 1 term President he might start that way.

And (so it goes) little done in their 1st term because they are campaigning for the 2nd.

Oh dear.

Which is why the first 100 days is so important - it's just about the only time you can get stuff done before campaigning kicks off again.

MarqueeMark said:

Selebian said:

DavidL said:

One thing that the previous thread made clear is that we should all stick to OGH. Anything else is a recipe for chaos.

We seem to be (mostly) ok with O and H, but the G is problematic. I thought it was 'good'.

Although I've been here a while now and still not offered a drink, so maybe not that good a host.

Grudging?

Gruntled.

eek said:

kinabalu said:

DavidL said:

Completely agree with the last paragraph btw. Presidents get little done, in general, in their second terms because they become lame ducks. If Biden is confirmed as a 1 term President he might start that way.

And (so it goes) little done in their 1st term because they are campaigning for the 2nd.

Oh dear.

Which is why the first 100 days is so important - it's just about the only time you can get stuff done before campaigning kicks off again.

West Wing had a very good episode where someone explains this, IIRC

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1352238067671822343

I liked this: https://twitter.com/jimmykimmel/status/1352042645686689793?s=20

FrancisUrquhart said:

SandyRentool said:

Priti hosting "Have I Got Vaccine for You" at 5. 6 questions about her advice on closing the borders, which will be evaded. And then some numpty asking about Easter ski trips.

You missed the question about how the UK vaccination programme is totally failing as it is far too slow (as we got one day of poor numbers the other day) and at the same time we should also go to two dose strategy. And why aren't we doing vaccinations 24hrs a day, asked 4 different times.

I recognise this. It is food policy. Reconcile:

1 - Lots of land for rewilding and reforesting.
2 - Becoming self-sufficient in food.
3 - Move to more extensive, less efficient, farming which takes more land per amount of food.

Malmesbury said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Designed for swimming, more like

Near where I grew up, a developer proposed to build on some land that traditionally flooded.

The plan was actually quite interesting - build a causeway/road, with houses off it, all raised above the surrounding area, to a level well above previous flooding. A considerable area wouldn't be built on, and left as floodable. In addition the developer proposed improvements to drainage to offset the loss of volume to the works.

The application got turned down, because councillors were worried that the design would give the impression the area flooded a lot.

Some years later, someone built on the edges of the area. With no mitigation. Strangely, this has flooded, several times.

Face palm

Interesting but doomed to fail Uber case about to hit the courts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55742569

as surely the fact the request went to a central database is akin to it going to a centralised call centre.

There are a whole set of laws I do believe uber failed to meet (VAT being the main one for which the court case is outstanding) but I think they just about followed the rules here albeit may be default than intentionally.

SandyRentool said:

BBC reporter just said "Green-lighted". Urgh!

Wait till your gaslighted about it..

SandyRentool said:

DavidL said:

kle4 said:

MikeSmithson said:

kle4 said:

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

Crabbie said:

eek said:

Dumbosaurus said:

Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

Other points:

1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

Our Good / Gracious Host

I thought it was our genial host?

I thought it was gracious host but whatever.

I thought it was our generous host?
Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.

I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.

This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.

Thus saith the Lord.

What a disaster. There were definitely opportunities for a market on this. Until now.

We could have a competition on the best alternative "G" word.

Grumpy :-)

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

Casino_Royale said:

It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

Sad.

Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!

Have you ever seen them in the same room?

Sunil_Prasannan said:

ydoethur said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Designed for swimming, more like

This is what happens when developers and councils pool their resources.

Looks like they're out of their depth?

I just had a look at that via the @PlanningShit dfeed..

AIUI houses are not being built on the part that is shown flooded, and that there is an artesian well due to be capped there, and balancing ponds etc.

Approved Sustainable Drainage strategy in place in the application.

https://twitter.com/frontwards/status/1352229781862027265

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

SandyRentool said:

BBC reporter just said "Green-lighted". Urgh!

Wait until the Olympics, when ‘medal’ becomes a verb.

Winningest is an Americanism that is creeping in more and more..

I jokingly described Trump as the most pardoningest president in history the other day. I’m almost certain that at least one American publication will have used that “word”.

Andrew Johnson probably has the record, given he pardoned all the Confederate troops. Carter pardoned anyone who evaded the draft for the Vietnam war so he too will have pardoned many more.

I was a bit surprised how restrained he was in the end: I wonder if someone had persuaded him not to pardon those who stormed the Capitol on the grounds that it would make convicting him of organising it a much easier case to plead.

I've also seen a suggestion that he was told that if he wanted to pardon himself or his family he would have to state what crimes he was pardoning them for: if this did happen then whoever gave him the advice was lying...

eek said:

It also reminds me of the bungalow that was for sale at a couple of years back on the other side of the river to Ironbridge. It was small but there was plenty of space available to expand.

Last year when Ironbridge was being protected from flooding I could just about make out its roofline when the camera panned round.

Reminds me of when my then Conservative controlled London council proposed selling off the local allotments for housing.

The reason that land had been left for allotments was because of its risk of flooding.

The proposal was defeated, through public objection to the loss of allotments. The fact that any housing built there would be at serious flood risk didnt figure.

I wonder if this will have any impact on deliveries of US-made vaccines to other countries.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/535157-biden-to-order-agencies-to-use-defense-production-act-in-coronavirus-fight

FrancisUrquhart said:

Oh god we are back to the "free by..." Easter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/13807580/ministers-hopeful-pub-march-tier-2/

Oh god indeed. Anybody proposing tier 2 anytime soon should be made to repeatedly write out the Liverpool case numbers for December and early January. >200% week to week rises.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Liverpool

Mexicanpete said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

SandyRentool said:

Priti hosting "Have I Got Vaccine for You" at 5. 6 questions about her advice on closing the borders, which will be evaded. And then some numpty asking about Easter ski trips.

You missed the question about how the UK vaccination programme is totally failing as it is far too slow (as we got one day of poor numbers the other day) and at the same time we should also go to two dose strategy. And why aren't we doing vaccinations 24hrs a day, asked 4 different times.

On Splott Road in Cardiff. Long queues for vaccines at the Splott medical centre. Welsh over 80s look young for their age.

Mexicanpete said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

SandyRentool said:

Priti hosting "Have I Got Vaccine for You" at 5. 6 questions about her advice on closing the borders, which will be evaded. And then some numpty asking about Easter ski trips.

You missed the question about how the UK vaccination programme is totally failing as it is far too slow (as we got one day of poor numbers the other day) and at the same time we should also go to two dose strategy. And why aren't we doing vaccinations 24hrs a day, asked 4 different times.

On Splott Road in Cardiff. Long queues for vaccines at the Splott medical centre. Welsh over 80s look young for their age.

Sounds like a great place to pull.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

Casino_Royale said:

It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

Sad.

Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!

It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.

ydoethur said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

ydoethur said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Designed for swimming, more like

This is what happens when developers and councils pool their resources.

Looks like they're out of their depth?

Something lake that, yes.

You’ll create ripples with comments like that

https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1352254037387833346

More than 2M in the last week...

Gaussian said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Oh god we are back to the "free by..." Easter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/13807580/ministers-hopeful-pub-march-tier-2/

Oh god indeed. Anybody proposing tier 2 anytime soon should be made to repeatedly write out the Liverpool case numbers for December and early January. >200% week to week rises.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Liverpool

Um, that was without a vaccine.

A triumph!

https://twitter.com/totovste/status/1352238314087198720?s=20

MattW said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

ydoethur said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Also off-topic (apologies) is this wonderful treat from close by my primary school in Rochdale. A lesson of why you shouldn't build houses on a flood plain...
https://twitter.com/HelenGradwell/status/1352196412113612800

Designed for swimming, more like

This is what happens when developers and councils pool their resources.

Looks like they're out of their depth?

I just had a look at that via the @PlanningShit dfeed..

AIUI houses are not being built on the part that is shown flooded, and that there is an artesian well due to be capped there, and balancing ponds etc.

Approved Sustainable Drainage strategy in place in the application.

https://twitter.com/frontwards/status/1352229781862027265

I really get annoyed with people who discourage venting on traditional hobby horses with boring old facts. Lighten up! 😉

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1352255942906273800

https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1352255051482488834

"Woke" doesn't really mean anything, and it's a fairly recent way of not meaning anything, so it's not surprising that those of Boris Johnson's generation haven't caught up. Sometimes it refers to a specifically doctrinaire kind of liberalism, sometimes it's catch-all "politically correct" kind of generic political insult , and most of the time it's simply empty noise.