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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125
    eristdoof said:

    DavidL said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Crabbie said:

    eek said:

    Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

    Other points:

    1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
    2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

    Our Good / Gracious Host
    I thought it was our genial host?
    I thought it was gracious host but whatever.
    I thought it was our generous host?
    Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.
    I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.
    This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.
    Thus saith the Lord.
    What a disaster. There were definitely opportunities for a market on this. Until now.
    We could have a competition on the best alternative "G" word.
    Grumpy :-)
    Grumbling.

    Like an appendix.
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    AlistairM said:
    ITS A DISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSASSTTTERRRRRRR.....
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,999
    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    Confirmed casualties of Covid this year so far:

    1. Glasto
    2. BP Garden Parties

    I can't imagine Cheltenham will go ahead (with punters) but think that Ascot will be a bunfight if it does.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,226
    edited January 2021

    Is it my imagination or has the mentioning Trump ratio here and in the wider world decreased significantly? Won't last forever of course, but when the world moves on it moves on.

    Yep. You are right. As hoped and predicted. It's like one day something is all there is, then it goes and the next day you find it quite hard to even remember. Especially if it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,956

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    See Bobby Eweing upthread.

    Also this

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1352084474519928833
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358
    On topic, I'm a layer of Kamala Harris for 2024 at current prices of 7/2 (ish).

    She didn't even make it to the primaries last year, and her political skills are as yet largely untested. There's a difference between pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and defeating the Clintons in a trench war, as Obama did, and then being elected on your own merits, and being selected to strengthen the ticket.

    She has an opportunity in office, now, to correct that perception and build a profile for herself. But she's far from the obvious inheritor.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,659
    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I took part in a remote university training session today and it just doesn't work very well compared to having people in the same room.
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    I don't think the hope of 500k / day is happening this week. 400k / day would still be decent.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,999
    Francis

    That's going to be bang on the worm, in terms of the required rate. We could do with a few big days to take the pressure off – and no bloody crap days on Mondays and Tuesdays. Still, a decent day's work......
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,079

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.

    Says the guy who labels everyone he doesn't like as a "wokeista".
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,659
    Scott_xP said:
    She seems to be saying life is complicated.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,226
    edited January 2021
    Charles said:

    kinabalu said:

    Blathering on to myself about woke on PT when the action is elsewhere. Just not the life I want for myself.

    I think Biden will stand again if he's fit enough and his numbers are better than Harris. My hunch - which is all it can be right now - is that at least one of these conditions will not be met. So I prefer to back Harris. Laying Trump is my main opener, though, for the 24 market.

    Don’t think the numbers matter. Power is difficult to give up. If he’s fit enough he will run
    Health is number 1. And I agree the general rule that you don't give up power. Hence my biggest politics bet atm being Johnson not going early. But if Harris looks a winner I think this will be in the mix for Biden. 82, with first woman VP, mixed race, prime of life and hot to trot. Pressure there, interior and exterior.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607

    Francis

    That's going to be bang on the worm, in terms of the required rate. We could do with a few big days to take the pressure off – and no bloody crap days on Mondays and Tuesdays. Still, a decent day's work......

    We're still ramping up, don't forget that 62 more vaccine centres are opening this week and we're getting door knocking teams out there next week. All of those incremental gains will add up to very big numbers as long as the supply is available.
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    Francis

    That's going to be bang on the worm, in terms of the required rate. We could do with a few big days to take the pressure off – and no bloody crap days on Mondays and Tuesdays. Still, a decent day's work......

    If only the rest of the COVID response had been run like this....
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    GaussianGaussian Posts: 793
    TOPPING said:

    Gaussian said:

    Oh god indeed. Anybody proposing tier 2 anytime soon should be made to repeatedly write out the Liverpool case numbers for December and early January. >200% week to week rises.

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Liverpool
    Um, that was without a vaccine.
    Yes but by March we won't have immunised anywhere near enough to counter such monstrous growth rates. The most vulnerable won't even have had their second jabs yet.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,307
    edited January 2021

    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
    Surely its better that way. When she makes clear what she means or says anything concrete it only causes problems. See this afternoons press conference for at least 1 example.

    And what is she supposed to say? "Thank f*** the nutter's gone. We really hope that sanity is back in the WH because having someone in there who will say the same tomorrow as they said today makes our job a lot easier."
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    Andy_JS said:

    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I took part in a remote university training session today and it just doesn't work very well compared to having people in the same room.
    Depends. If you are teaching something that people know a bit about or that has an application to something they know then my trick is to make it interactive very early on to make people realise that they will be expected to take part (which, imo, is the best way of training, live or online).

    If you are explaining something from first principles which they won't be able to participate in then that's trickier.

    Plus, obvs, clear your web/internet history before you start.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    What's inconsistent about that?

    I mean it's been captured by people who are dogmatic about it, and I explained my criticism of that on here last night. Their reaction (and that of some others on here) to criticism of that seems to be that if you disagree with it you must be a bigot, extremist or Trumpite.

    That's entirely consistent, and proves my point.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125
    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    Is the Viz Evangelist a new character? I could see they'd have fun.....
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,307
    Andy_JS said:

    Scott_xP said:
    She seems to be saying life is complicated.
    And grammar too, apparently.
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    Scott_xP said:

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    See Bobby Eweing upthread.

    Also this

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1352084474519928833
    Trouble is that this is the danger.

    Trump did many many bad things. In fact almost everything he did was bad. But he got elected because previous presidents had also done many bad things and people were at the point where they couldn't take it any more. If people think Biden is just going back to 'business as usual' then he will never reunite his country because it was 'business as usual' that drove people to Trump.

    The effect of Trumpism is hopefully disappearing rapidly. Sadly the cause of it has not been addressed and the worry has to be that it won't be.

    I hope Biden and his team are brighter than those posting these tweets.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    Gaussian said:

    TOPPING said:

    Gaussian said:

    Oh god indeed. Anybody proposing tier 2 anytime soon should be made to repeatedly write out the Liverpool case numbers for December and early January. >200% week to week rises.

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Liverpool
    Um, that was without a vaccine.
    Yes but by March we won't have immunised anywhere near enough to counter such monstrous growth rates. The most vulnerable won't even have had their second jabs yet.
    True many won't, but millions will, and there will be a lot of asymptomaticness around.

    I doubt there will be a govt order that pub attendance is mandatory.
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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,442

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    My reading of Sunil's comment (and why I liked it) was that ending tweets with 'Sad' was* a well known Trumpism.

    I disagree with your first sentence in the original post, because I don't think 'woke' is really that meaningful as a term and I don't see the evidence to support the idea that Biden is relentlessly politically correct, if that's your meaning. I do agree with much of what you wrote in the second sentence. Healing, if possible, means avoiding engaging in/starting culture wars.

    *feels nice to be able to use 'was' :smile:
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    MattWMattW Posts: 18,567
    edited January 2021

    Scott_xP said:
    "Woke" doesn't really mean anything, and it's a fairly recent way of not meaning anything, so it's not surprising that those of Boris Johnson's generation haven't caught up. Sometimes it refers to a specifically doctrinaire kind of liberalism, sometimes it's catch-all "politically correct" kind of generic political insult , and most of the time it's simply empty noise.
    That sounds like quite a good summary of the content of progressive causes that have gone past their sell-by dates, perhaps.

    The normal pattern seems to be a spiral descending into more and more intense anger about smaller and smaller partitions of the presenting cause.
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    gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
    Surely its better that way. When she makes clear what she means or says anything concrete it only causes problems. See this afternoons press conference for at least 1 example.

    And what is she supposed to say? "Thank f*** the nutter's gone. We really hope that sanity is back in the WH because having someone in there who will say the same tomorrow as they said today makes our job a lot easier."
    It seemed quite clear to me. She would rather welcome Biden in than Trump, acknowledges it’s a sea change in direction, and emphasises there is a lot of work to do particularly uniting the divided nation.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,779

    Is it my imagination or has the mentioning Trump ratio here and in the wider world decreased significantly? Won't last forever of course, but when the world moves on it moves on.

    Is it my imagination or has the mentioning Trump ratio here and in the wider world decreased significantly? Won't last forever of course, but when the world moves on it moves on.

    For once the power of social media has not been overblown - without him feeding it, the fetid pond settles.
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    mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,140
    edited January 2021

    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
    This, unfortunately, seems to be what we teach our politicians and media people to do. God forbid that there should be any dead air, or that you should appear anything other than completely confident, whether you have any actual thoughts on the subject or not.

    It is often only when you write it down that you discover there was absolutely no content whatsoever.

    When combined with adversial "got you" interviewing technique, it also gives genuinely thoughtful people, who need at least a little time to prepare and consider a proper answer, no real avenue of expression.

    And here's where we end up.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    Who?
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    What's inconsistent about that?

    I mean it's been captured by people who are dogmatic about it, and I explained my criticism of that on here last night. Their reaction (and that of some others on here) to criticism of that seems to be that if you disagree with it you must be a bigot, extremist or Trumpite.

    That's entirely consistent, and proves my point.
    Mate for whatever reason, wouldn't like to ask, you do have a tendency to go off on one for no particular reason.

    Usually around the subjects of sovereignty, patriotism, or nationalism.
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    gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    Scott_xP said:

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    See Bobby Eweing upthread.

    Also this

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1352084474519928833
    But don’t they then find they have woke up (Lol) the alien egg pods?
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    DavidL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Scott_xP said:
    She seems to be saying life is complicated.
    And grammar too, apparently.
    Yes well I suggest you listen to anyone taking except in the most formal of situations - like great speeches - and see how grammatically correct they are when you try and write it down.

    People don't 'speak grammar'. Almost no one does these days. If this is something she has written then it is bloody awful. If it is something that has been transcribed from a two way conversation then it is stupid to expect it to be grammatically perfect.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    gealbhan said:

    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
    Surely its better that way. When she makes clear what she means or says anything concrete it only causes problems. See this afternoons press conference for at least 1 example.

    And what is she supposed to say? "Thank f*** the nutter's gone. We really hope that sanity is back in the WH because having someone in there who will say the same tomorrow as they said today makes our job a lot easier."
    It seemed quite clear to me. She would rather welcome Biden in than Trump, acknowledges it’s a sea change in direction, and emphasises there is a lot of work to do particularly uniting the divided nation.
    Actually I agree.

    If you step back from the words as written down and approach it more as a prose-poem then the meaning is crystal clear and is as you describe.
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    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I did remote training for my new staff member back in September.

    I cannot tell you the deep sense of foreboding I had when I had to give her remote access to my work laptop.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,779

    IanB2 said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    Casino’s obvious obsession undermines the points he is trying to make.
    Because none of us have any obsessions on here, do we?

    If you want to engage on the points I'm making, rather than just trolling me, then please feel free to do so.
    I think you've made some great points, but then go one step further than you need to in tone, which can lead people to dismiss the previous good points. But that's subjective.
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    TOPPING said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
    Don't get him wet. Don't feed him after midnight......
    Don't get him wet conjures up...ok, let's just not go there.
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    SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,442
    Was it @Foxy recommending these early in the pandemic? Ahead of the game. We picked one up early on, thankfully haven't had cause to use it yet.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358
    TOPPING said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
    Yeah, there is; I'm not perfect, and I don't pretend to be.

    Take me or leave me.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,984
    Good news!

    I have survived.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358

    TOPPING said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
    Don't get him wet. Don't feed him after midnight......
    Feeding me is always a good idea.
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    mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,140
    "Hancock says UK giving 200 vaccinations a minute"

    Or "about 2m a week". Can't we stop the ramping, and just stick to reporting the numbers in a consistent way so we can assess when we'll be at a "herd immunity" level? (i.e. some time around autumn/winter 2021 still, just as everyone has been saying all along.)
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    Selebian said:

    Was it @Foxy recommending these early in the pandemic? Ahead of the game. We picked one up early on, thankfully haven't had cause to use it yet.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

    Yes plus the Zinc and Vitamin D supplements.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,891
    edited January 2021

    I don't think the hope of 500k / day is happening this week. 400k / day would still be decent.

    There are many new vaccine centres still being built, including 10 or so large ones in the next week or two. It is all still ramping up ready for when there's more supply.

    All sorts of places, including a Debenhams...
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    DavidL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Scott_xP said:
    She seems to be saying life is complicated.
    And grammar too, apparently.
    Yes well I suggest you listen to anyone taking except in the most formal of situations - like great speeches - and see how grammatically correct they are when you try and write it down.

    People don't 'speak grammar'. Almost no one does these days. If this is something she has written then it is bloody awful. If it is something that has been transcribed from a two way conversation then it is stupid to expect it to be grammatically perfect.
    I knew a couple of Dave's speechwriters, the pointed out that very same point.

    The thing with (political) speeches is that speech at various stages is dedicated to different audiences, so grammar goes out the window when you write the speech.

    I think one speech had an audience for 17 different groups.

    Those actually listening to the speech, Tory Members, Tory MPs, Lib Dem MPs, the average voter, EU leaders, the world leaders, voters in marginal seats, etc.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,307

    DavidL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Scott_xP said:
    She seems to be saying life is complicated.
    And grammar too, apparently.
    Yes well I suggest you listen to anyone taking except in the most formal of situations - like great speeches - and see how grammatically correct they are when you try and write it down.

    People don't 'speak grammar'. Almost no one does these days. If this is something she has written then it is bloody awful. If it is something that has been transcribed from a two way conversation then it is stupid to expect it to be grammatically perfect.
    You really don't need to tell me this. There are few things so humbling as reading the transcript of the cross examination of a witness and seeing your questions, which you thought had gone well at the time, reduced to black and white. Sometimes its depressing, sometimes just completely bewildering. What the hell was I even asking? Of course I blame the short hand writer 😜
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    I don't think the hope of 500k / day is happening this week. 400k / day would still be decent.

    There are many new vaccine centres still being built, including 10 or so large ones in the next week or two. It is all still ramping up ready for when there's more supply.

    All sorts of places, including a Debenhams...
    That's the important thing...we don't want a repeat of testing, where they ramped up to 100k in a month, then it drifted for several months. Need to keep pushing, so whatever the supply is available, we can use it up as fast as possible.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,427

    TOPPING said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
    Don't get him wet. Don't feed him after midnight......
    But, what if you are on a plane and you cross the international dateline just at midnight?
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    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Scott_xP said:
    She seems to be saying life is complicated.
    And grammar too, apparently.
    Yes well I suggest you listen to anyone taking except in the most formal of situations - like great speeches - and see how grammatically correct they are when you try and write it down.

    People don't 'speak grammar'. Almost no one does these days. If this is something she has written then it is bloody awful. If it is something that has been transcribed from a two way conversation then it is stupid to expect it to be grammatically perfect.
    You really don't need to tell me this. There are few things so humbling as reading the transcript of the cross examination of a witness and seeing your questions, which you thought had gone well at the time, reduced to black and white. Sometimes its depressing, sometimes just completely bewildering. What the hell was I even asking? Of course I blame the short hand writer 😜
    My first ever speech, I think spoke every comma, full stop, brackets, colons, semi colons, parentheses, etc.

    Learned not to do that again.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,307

    Good news!

    I have survived.

    Oh good, I was really worried.

    What were you doing again?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,658

    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    Is the Viz Evangelist a new character? I could see they'd have fun.....
    They already have one: Ivan Jelical

    https://viz.fandom.com/wiki/Ivan_Jelical
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    GaussianGaussian Posts: 793
    mwadams said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
    This, unfortunately, seems to be what we teach our politicians and media people to do. God forbid that there should be any dead air, or that you should appear anything other than completely confident, whether you have any actual thoughts on the subject or not.

    It is often only when you write it down that you discover there was absolutely no content whatsoever.

    When combined with adversial "got you" interviewing technique, it also gives genuinely thoughtful people, who need at least a little time to prepare and consider a proper answer, no real avenue of expression.

    And here's where we end up.
    Yep, Blackadder's Duke of Wellington was wrong. Leadership isn't about shouting, but sustained bullshitting.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,891
    edited January 2021
    Scott_xP said:

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    See Bobby Eweing upthread.

    Also this

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1352084474519928833
    Uh oh.

    Does that mean we should take off and nuke it from space?
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,984
    Mr. L, shivering due to the absence of a working boiler and half the electricity conked out.

    Seems ok. For now.
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    gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    TOPPING said:

    gealbhan said:

    DavidL said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
    Surely its better that way. When she makes clear what she means or says anything concrete it only causes problems. See this afternoons press conference for at least 1 example.

    And what is she supposed to say? "Thank f*** the nutter's gone. We really hope that sanity is back in the WH because having someone in there who will say the same tomorrow as they said today makes our job a lot easier."
    It seemed quite clear to me. She would rather welcome Biden in than Trump, acknowledges it’s a sea change in direction, and emphasises there is a lot of work to do particularly uniting the divided nation.
    Actually I agree.

    If you step back from the words as written down and approach it more as a prose-poem then the meaning is crystal clear and is as you describe.
    If others can’t see the obvious Does this mean we are parseltongue or something :o
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,249

    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I did remote training for my new staff member back in September.

    I cannot tell you the deep sense of foreboding I had when I had to give her remote access to my work laptop.
    Why? What did you have on it?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,658
    Selebian said:

    Was it @Foxy recommending these early in the pandemic? Ahead of the game. We picked one up early on, thankfully haven't had cause to use it yet.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

    Yes, a key piece of any home care kit.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    Not that anyone cares, obvs, because Brexit, but after Jan 1st the non-Regulated Market exchanges set up in the EU. Since Jan 1st there has been a huge transfer of volume from the previously UK venue to the EU one.

    Does it matter? Well not tangibly apart from diluting somewhat London's "central trading hub" status together with other associated elements (cf. ROI - EU Lorries bypassing UK).
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    Got to have money for the pre-election bungs.
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    On topic, I think it's good politics for Biden to give every indication of running again. Otherwise he will be a lame duck very early indeed, and it will encourage the debate to turn to succession before he's even got going.

    However, I think that it will create betting opportunities because it almost certainly is a bluff.

    Whilst he plainly isn't the befuddled Alzheimer's patient Trump supporters portrayed, he is older today than Reagan was when he LEFT office. Is he going to be able to do an incredibly demanding job until he is 86? It just feels very unlikely.

    The reality is that, from your mid 70s, decline does accelerate and everyday things become more demanding physically and mentally. You can fend that off for a while by being reasonably fit and heathy and through medical care. We all know people in their 80s and 90s who stay on marvelous form, but the truth is that they need to rest more and have more off times, often in private. 86 is really old to be doing that job even these days, and even for someone who is lucky and in good shape. I don't see it happening.
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    gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    Who?
    Would you also say Corbyn who?
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    That's...stark, particularly in our current straits. Still, they should definitely stop that extra £20 pw for the dole junkies.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1352261637990985728?s=20
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    nico679nico679 Posts: 4,837
    Trump won’t run in 2024 as he couldn’t bear to lose again . If by a miracle he does the Dems will be cracking open the champagne .
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125

    Scott_xP said:

    Even I'm amazed at the rapidity at which Trump's relevance has collapsed.

    The whole thing already feels like a weird bad dream.

    See Bobby Eweing upthread.

    Also this

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1352084474519928833
    Uh oh.

    Does that mean we should take off and nuke it from space?
    Yup.

    At some point, the Alien will uncoil itself from within the gubbins of that machine....
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    eekeek Posts: 24,981
    nico679 said:

    Trump won’t run in 2024 as he couldn’t bear to lose again . If by a miracle he does the Dems will be cracking open the champagne .

    Trump will stand - he hasn't done all this hard work for Cruz to become dictator in chief
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    I don't think the hope of 500k / day is happening this week. 400k / day would still be decent.

    There are many new vaccine centres still being built, including 10 or so large ones in the next week or two. It is all still ramping up ready for when there's more supply.

    All sorts of places, including a Debenhams...

    I'm not sure we've fully understood the rise and fall here. The new big centres have not seemingly added that much to our total capacity, but perhaps numbers would have dropped without them.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,984
    F1: Russell has a back value of 10.5 on Betfair. Bottas is 11.

    Bottas is a confirmed Mercedes driver. Russell is not.

    Hamilton's odds were 1.4 (Ladbrokes, anyway, I think Betfair was similar) a while ago, now out to 1.49. And Russell is still shorter than Bottas.

    Quite stark, the lack of confidence the market has in the Finn.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,898
    TOPPING said:

    Andy_JS said:

    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I took part in a remote university training session today and it just doesn't work very well compared to having people in the same room.
    Depends. If you are teaching something that people know a bit about or that has an application to something they know then my trick is to make it interactive very early on to make people realise that they will be expected to take part (which, imo, is the best way of training, live or online).

    If you are explaining something from first principles which they won't be able to participate in then that's trickier.

    Plus, obvs, clear your web/internet history before you start.
    New user on your machine, for any and all presentations you’re doing to a group.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,307

    Mr. L, shivering due to the absence of a working boiler and half the electricity conked out.

    Seems ok. For now.

    Ah, sympathies. I would like to say that you chose a nice day for it but...
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    I don't think the hope of 500k / day is happening this week. 400k / day would still be decent.

    There are many new vaccine centres still being built, including 10 or so large ones in the next week or two. It is all still ramping up ready for when there's more supply.

    All sorts of places, including a Debenhams...

    I'm not sure we've fully understood the rise and fall here. The new big centres have not seemingly added that much to our total capacity, but perhaps numbers would have dropped without them.
    What do you mean, we have gone from 200k to 350k in a week and a bit.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,891

    That's...stark, particularly in our current straits. Still, they should definitely stop that extra £20 pw for the dole junkies.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1352261637990985728?s=20

    After 2 months. What about after 12 months?
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    gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362

    Francis

    That's going to be bang on the worm, in terms of the required rate. We could do with a few big days to take the pressure off – and no bloody crap days on Mondays and Tuesdays. Still, a decent day's work......

    What about the unexpected?

    Can I get my hyperbole of the day out the wayy now?

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-ice-cream-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-china-12188761

    OMG! OMG!!! O M Geeeeeeeeeeee
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    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I did remote training for my new staff member back in September.

    I cannot tell you the deep sense of foreboding I had when I had to give her remote access to my work laptop.
    Why? What did you have on it?
    My notes and drafts of reports I have written over the years.

    Some of them begin with lines like

    'Never trust anybody who spells gonorrhoea correctly on the first attempt' and '4% of American male prisoners have experienced rape in prison in the last 12 months'.

    It might come as a real shock to PBers but I use 'memorable' phrases to get the attention of people.

    Also at that time I was investigating a trader who was sending unsolicited dick pics and videos, said evidence was on my laptop.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,659
    mwadams said:

    "Hancock says UK giving 200 vaccinations a minute"

    Or "about 2m a week". Can't we stop the ramping, and just stick to reporting the numbers in a consistent way so we can assess when we'll be at a "herd immunity" level? (i.e. some time around autumn/winter 2021 still, just as everyone has been saying all along.)

    We should get herd immunity a lot quicker than that, hopefully by Easter.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125

    TOPPING said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
    Don't get him wet. Don't feed him after midnight......
    But, what if you are on a plane and you cross the international dateline just at midnight?
    Take away the complimentary peanuts....pronto.

    You've seen that Twilight Zone episode - the one with the gremlin tearing chunks off the outside of the plane? Well....
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,307
    Foxy said:

    Selebian said:

    Was it @Foxy recommending these early in the pandemic? Ahead of the game. We picked one up early on, thankfully haven't had cause to use it yet.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

    Yes, a key piece of any home care kit.
    We bought one early on on your recommendation. Whenever anyone has been feeling under the weather we have used it and gained some confidence that it is not the dreaded Covid. So far so good.
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    That's...stark, particularly in our current straits. Still, they should definitely stop that extra £20 pw for the dole junkies.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1352261637990985728?s=20

    That's hugely misleading isn't it, because in the UK doleys get more than JSA and Universal Credit.

    When you factor in things like WTC and housing benefits, that figure changes.
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    Got to have money for the pre-election bungs.
    I can't pretend to be an expert on operation of Scottish government finances but presumably if it's allocated for a purpose it ceases to be available. It's the old situation of departments suddenly getting very busy in March if they've slightly undershot, so they spend their full allocation before the end of the financial year (you tend to see a lot more slightly unnecessary roadworks for instance).
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    I don't think the hope of 500k / day is happening this week. 400k / day would still be decent.

    There are many new vaccine centres still being built, including 10 or so large ones in the next week or two. It is all still ramping up ready for when there's more supply.

    All sorts of places, including a Debenhams...

    I'm not sure we've fully understood the rise and fall here. The new big centres have not seemingly added that much to our total capacity, but perhaps numbers would have dropped without them.
    What do you mean, we have gone from 200k to 350k in a week and a bit.
    10 centres opened on Monday, and today's figure is hovering around last Friday's. Obviously these centres ARE delivering jabs, I am just saying there is evidently quite a lot which sits behind individual days figures, such as national and local supply, possibly reporting.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,249

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Bloody hell, I'm having to run remote training for all senior level analysts and above for Looker as I'm the data viz evangelist. Remote training is the worst. Don't know how anyone does this for a living.

    I did remote training for my new staff member back in September.

    I cannot tell you the deep sense of foreboding I had when I had to give her remote access to my work laptop.
    Why? What did you have on it?
    My notes and drafts of reports I have written over the years.

    Some of them begin with lines like

    'Never trust anybody who spells gonorrhoea correctly on the first attempt' and '4% of American male prisoners have experienced rape in prison in the last 12 months'.

    It might come as a real shock to PBers but I use 'memorable' phrases to get the attention of people.

    Also at that time I was investigating a trader who was sending unsolicited dick pics and videos, said evidence was on my laptop.
    Well, that's a relief. I was wondering if you'd been visiting Pornhub, which sensible people do only on computers that they own.*

    *At least, so I'm told, although as I've never visited it on any sort of computer I wouldn't know.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    Andy_JS said:

    mwadams said:

    "Hancock says UK giving 200 vaccinations a minute"

    Or "about 2m a week". Can't we stop the ramping, and just stick to reporting the numbers in a consistent way so we can assess when we'll be at a "herd immunity" level? (i.e. some time around autumn/winter 2021 still, just as everyone has been saying all along.)

    We should get herd immunity a lot quicker than that, hopefully by Easter.
    That seems very unlikely, Easter isn't going to be possible unless there's unlimited supply from tomorrow.
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    The Russian coronavirus vaccine, Sputnik V, has been approved for the first time in an EU country. Hungary has given preliminary approval to the jab, as well as the Oxford-AstraZeneca one.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,427
    Foxy said:

    Selebian said:

    Was it @Foxy recommending these early in the pandemic? Ahead of the game. We picked one up early on, thankfully haven't had cause to use it yet.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

    Yes, a key piece of any home care kit.
    It has been utterly invaluable for 2 families of friends who came down with the virus.
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    Just under a quarter of over-80s in Wales have been given their first dose of coronavirus vaccine, according to new figures from Public Health Wales.

    No rush.
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,787
    It would have helped know how to spend it if the UK Gmt had bothered to tell them. For one thing.
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    That's...stark, particularly in our current straits. Still, they should definitely stop that extra £20 pw for the dole junkies.

    https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1352261637990985728?s=20

    That's hugely misleading isn't it, because in the UK doleys get more than JSA and Universal Credit.

    When you factor in things like WTC and housing benefits, that figure changes.
    Dunno, have you an alternative figure? Do other countries only have a single unemployment benefit or various ones?
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    kle4 said:

    DavidL said:

    Crabbie said:

    eek said:

    Very long time lurker, compelled to post to point out that that you can back Biden as Democratic Nominee in 2024 at prices better than 3. Sure, he's old, but being head of state is very more-ish. Crazy to my mind that Kamla is shorter to be next president than Joe. I'm on.

    Other points:

    1. I am not Sean, but do intend to make drunken late night posts in the future.
    2. I never figured out what OGH stands for?

    Our Good / Gracious Host
    I thought it was our genial host?
    I thought it was gracious host but whatever.
    I thought it was our generous host?
    Christ, the foundations of my world are quivering.
    I think it's like different versions of the Royal Standard, each part of the UK has its own definition of OGH.
    This all happened in 2004/5 when the term "Our genial host" began being used.
    Strange, always thought it stood for "Our Goddamn Host" or something like that - to each her/his/its own!
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    Sandpit said:

    BBC reporter just said "Green-lighted". Urgh!

    Wait until the Olympics, when ‘medal’ becomes a verb.
    Winningest is an Americanism that is creeping in more and more..
    It's ugly but there really is no other word that does the job.
    The Americanism winningmost does the job. I wonder if one started as a misheard version of the other.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,984
    Mr. L, could be worse. Glad it wasn't last week, when we had a 12 hour stretch below zero. And when I got back from walking the dog (and getting drenched) the house was warm rather than perishing.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607

    The Russian coronavirus vaccine, Sputnik V, has been approved for the first time in an EU country. Hungary has given preliminary approval to the jab, as well as the Oxford-AstraZeneca one.

    Interesting that an EU country isn't waiting for the EMA, expect the commission to mental at Hungary in fairly short order.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,999
    TOPPING said:

    Saw this on previous thread and LOL!

    It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.

    It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.

    Sad.

    Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!
    It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.

    If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.

    I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.

    I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
    "It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"

    "I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."

    The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
    There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.

    Just don't make him angry...
    Yes there's a touch of the Jekyll and Hyde about our learned friend. He swings from incisive conservative commentator to paranoid reactionary ranter, looking for reds under the bed and wokes under the yoke.
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,202
    Scott_xP said:
    Struggling with English comprehension again? New administration has new priorities. Needs new relationships round the world.
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    I know that I am not alone in this country in starting to take anti-depressants during the course of the pandemic. All I can say is that remembering to take your happy pills is *important*. Having missed 2 of the last 5 days (non-consecutive) it has done things to my brain which are very interesting!

    Apologies again for Biden-baiting behaviour and being generally snappy yesterday.

    No sweat, Roch. Your honesty and (frequent) quality make up for any demerits.

    Like a great soul once said, forgive us our trespasses - and validate our parking!
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