Is it my imagination or has the mentioning Trump ratio here and in the wider world decreased significantly? Won't last forever of course, but when the world moves on it moves on.
Yep. You are right. As hoped and predicted. It's like one day something is all there is, then it goes and the next day you find it quite hard to even remember. Especially if it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Him not being on Twitter really diminishes his voice, and services like Parler (now sort of back up) and Gab (still up, still quite mad) just aren't as popular.
Of course, One America News and the other one *may* keep their relevance. But equally, those celebrities on Fox - Hannity, and co - will probably bring the viewers back. And Murdoch (and therefore Fox) have decided that Trump is over.
So yes, Trump is without a voice. How does he make himself heard?
It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.
It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.
It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.
If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.
I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.
I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
"It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"
"I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."
The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.
Just don't make him angry...
Yeah, there is; I'm not perfect, and I don't pretend to be.
Take me or leave me.
Shouldn't that be, we are not perfect, take us or leave us?
"Hancock says UK giving 200 vaccinations a minute"
Or "about 2m a week". Can't we stop the ramping, and just stick to reporting the numbers in a consistent way so we can assess when we'll be at a "herd immunity" level? (i.e. some time around autumn/winter 2021 still, just as everyone has been saying all along.)
Whilst that would be sensible government, it would be lousy short-term politics.
Ten months ago, the likely big picture was pretty clear; a hard lockdown to get the initial surge back under control, softer (but not that soft) measures and lots of outdoors over the summer, likely harder measures over the autumn and winter, keep buggering on until lots of people had been protected by vaccination. At that point, the virus stops being able to go viral (so to speak) and most of us can go back to normal.
And from pretty early on, the scientists were saying that this virus looks pretty vaccinatable, maybe a year to get a vaccine ready and tested and a year or so after that to make billions of doses and get them into sufficient arms. And let's remember that Covid-09 would have been a very different, much nastier, proposition.
The UK has made a genuinely impressively fast start on the vaccination. But we're still thinking in terms of summertime for herd immunity and us shouting "faster, faster" isn't going to make the factory production runs go any quicker.
And I am still nervous that a combination of Boris wanting to be able to say "freedom!" and get one over on the Euro-johnnies, and Rishi wanting everyone back at work, is going to tempt the government to reopen prematurely. Even though they must know that just leads to Wave 4 and Lockdown 4.
Is it my imagination or has the mentioning Trump ratio here and in the wider world decreased significantly? Won't last forever of course, but when the world moves on it moves on.
Yep. You are right. As hoped and predicted. It's like one day something is all there is, then it goes and the next day you find it quite hard to even remember. Especially if it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Him not being on Twitter really diminishes his voice, and services like Parler (now sort of back up) and Gab (still up, still quite mad) just aren't as popular.
Of course, One America News and the other one *may* keep their relevance. But equally, those celebrities on Fox - Hannity, and co - will probably bring the viewers back. And Murdoch (and therefore Fox) have decided that Trump is over.
So yes, Trump is without a voice. How does he make himself heard?
Trump is no stable genius....a stable genius would have let others push the conspiracy theories , while he now be sitting with a prime slot on Fox News, with his twitter account still active, and be looking forward to spending 4 years spouting off against the new administration and flogging all sorts of tat to the faithful.
Action taken against him to either suspend his twitter account or impeach or even criminal charges would look very politically motivated. Instead he gave them all perfectly valid reasons to do all of the above.
I know that I am not alone in this country in starting to take anti-depressants during the course of the pandemic. All I can say is that remembering to take your happy pills is *important*. Having missed 2 of the last 5 days (non-consecutive) it has done things to my brain which are very interesting!
Apologies again for Biden-baiting behaviour and being generally snappy yesterday.
No sweat, Roch. Your honesty and (frequent) quality make up for any demerits.
Like a great soul once said, forgive us our trespasses - and validate our parking!
As you are called sea shanty what do you make of the sudden popularity of them, or is it just this side of the pond?
Wait until the Olympics, when ‘medal’ becomes a verb.
Winningest is an Americanism that is creeping in more and more..
It's ugly but there really is no other word that does the job.
The Americanism winningmostdoes the job. I wonder if one started as a misheard version of the other.
I love new words that wrap up a concept or an activity better than the currently available vocab. Rubbernecking is still, decades on, one of my favorite neologisms.
Is "green-lighting" better or worse than "giving the go-ahead" or "approving"? Personally, I think it is for certain situations, as the traffic light reference implies not just approval, but approval for something that was previously held up.
Trump won’t run in 2024 as he couldn’t bear to lose again . If by a miracle he does the Dems will be cracking open the champagne .
I tend to agree although perhaps not with that level of certainty. I read "we will be back in some form" as a tacit statement that it would be via family or proxies.
If he believes his own "stolen election" guff (which I still doubt but maybe), then there's no reason to believe the "fraud" won't be as bad or worse in 2024. And if he doesn't then there's no reason to believe he'd not lose again, which he plainly doesn't enjoy.
He's created a "rightful winner" bubble for himself and his fans to live in where he will find some peace in an odd way, and think the value is betting against him personally leaving that bubble to give it another go, even if he floats the idea from time to time to remain relevant and in the news.
That's aside from the legal and financial issues he needs to address and which will be time and energy-consuming.
That's hugely misleading isn't it, because in the UK doleys get more than JSA and Universal Credit.
When you factor in things like WTC and housing benefits, that figure changes.
Dunno, have you an alternative figure? Do other countries only have a single unemployment benefit or various ones?
I think in this case he ma be right. IIRC from some figures I saw a while back, Ireland is much less generous than NI on the combined stack of benefits.
I presume, as with many of these things, it is a case of "what do you count in the international comparison".
Failed businessman Donald Trump owned three casinos and went bust. The daily take could not cover the high interest payments on the junk bonds he'd issued. That is probably why we do not hear about him any more.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
I can't pretend to be an expert on operation of Scottish government finances but presumably if it's allocated for a purpose it ceases to be available. It's the old situation of departments suddenly getting very busy in March if they've slightly undershot, so they spend their full allocation before the end of the financial year (you tend to see a lot more slightly unnecessary roadworks for instance).
Not the case with the Scottish budget, actually. They do keep a modicum from year to year for contingency, giving Torties and the like the opportunity, as they see it, to moan about waste etc.
Getting their excuses in early? What have the Dems been doing the last three months?
Name a single administration either side of the Atlantic that, in the days after taking power, doesn't do quite a bit of sucking of air through their teeth and saying "blimey, some cowboy's been working on this - I can fix it, but it'll cost". It's absolutely standard practice.
That's hugely misleading isn't it, because in the UK doleys get more than JSA and Universal Credit.
When you factor in things like WTC and housing benefits, that figure changes.
Dunno, have you an alternative figure? Do other countries only have a single unemployment benefit or various ones?
I'll have a look up on the OECD website, which is an arse to navigate, some countries have a single benefit, others do not.
Others tax benefits, some do not.
One of the other drivers are is the benefit system contributory or not, some countries have 'high' benefits but limit to very few, whereas here in the UK young benefit claimants can claim whilst never contributing.
I like the idea of local approach. I have had anecdotal from oldies worried about travelling far for it. For some of us xxmiles in our car sounds easy, but sounds different to those who don’t drive?
Getting their excuses in early? What have the Dems been doing the last three months?
This is what happens when Trump didn't do the normal transition, a lot of stuff the Dems have to do blind, also couple in shitty things like Trump lifting travel bans just before he left the White House.
Half term holidays. Someone was asking on the last thread. Wait and see, imo, in case the dates are changed at late notice. Then come to London and admire the statue of Winston Churchill outside Parliament. And the one of Abraham Lincoln. Unfortunately, Parliament itself is still cunningly disguised as a building site.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
That is what they're saying. Threatening to sue Pfizer about it.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
Patel just rambles on, very often it's impossible to discern any meaning from her streams of consciousness.
This, unfortunately, seems to be what we teach our politicians and media people to do. God forbid that there should be any dead air, or that you should appear anything other than completely confident, whether you have any actual thoughts on the subject or not.
It is often only when you write it down that you discover there was absolutely no content whatsoever.
When combined with adversial "got you" interviewing technique, it also gives genuinely thoughtful people, who need at least a little time to prepare and consider a proper answer, no real avenue of expression.
And here's where we end up.
A Tory press officer, a TORY press officer, hiring taxis to ferry around prepared soundbites to its own cabinet ministers?
Getting their excuses in early? What have the Dems been doing the last three months?
Mainly been getting denied access to their transition teams.
That said is most of this not done at State level?
That sounds like a headline that is a poor summary.
The executive branch has been doing something vaccine provision - in the US it goes through the Fed gov, to the states.
That the plan/operations are ridiculously bad is a given - the other day, they announced that they were going to release the stockpile for the second does. Which turned out to be a stockpile of... no doses...
Getting their excuses in early? What have the Dems been doing the last three months?
Name a single administration either side of the Atlantic that, in the days after taking power, doesn't do quite a bit of sucking of air through their teeth and saying "blimey, some cowboy's been working on this - I can fix it, but it'll cost". It's absolutely standard practice.
The behaviour of the outgoing administration, though, is almost uniquely un-standard.
Wait until the Olympics, when ‘medal’ becomes a verb.
Winningest is an Americanism that is creeping in more and more..
It's ugly but there really is no other word that does the job.
The Americanism winningmostdoes the job. I wonder if one started as a misheard version of the other.
I love new words that wrap up a concept or an activity better than the currently available vocab. Rubbernecking is still, decades on, one of my favorite neologisms.
Is "green-lighting" better or worse than "giving the go-ahead" or "approving"? Personally, I think it is for certain situations, as the traffic light reference implies not just approval, but approval for something that was previously held up.
Yes, like banoffee pie - an example of a popular tortemanteau
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
Run out of supply. The Pfizer supply restrictions are really starting to bite in Europe.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
Yes. Even though they prevaricated over approvals, they could have used the time for cunning logistical setting up to hit ground running. So they must have supply problems. Almost like if someone nipped in early with few extra quid and bought up the vaccines
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
Run out of supply. The Pfizer supply restrictions are really starting to bite in Europe.
At this rate, Israel will be getting around to re-vaccinating their population with an updated version against the mutant strains before most of Europe has even completed the over 50s.
I like the idea of local approach. I have had anecdotal from oldies worried about travelling far for it. For some of us xxmiles in our car sounds easy, but sounds different to those who don’t drive?
In this area teams of volunteers have had to be assembled to take non-drivers to the vaccination centre. I've also looked with some surprise at the siting of the one in Wickford, S Essex. There is no public transport within some distance, and even road access isn't that good.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
The issue is that the EU upped it's order really late in the day, if they had made an order of 600m back in November when the trial results were made available those manufacturing upgrades could have been done before mass deliveries had started. This is literally happening now because the EU have asked for 300m more doses this year above the original order.
It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.
It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.
It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.
If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.
I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.
I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
"It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"
"I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."
The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
What's inconsistent about that?
I mean it's been captured by people who are dogmatic about it, and I explained my criticism of that on here last night. Their reaction (and that of some others on here) to criticism of that seems to be that if you disagree with it you must be a bigot, extremist or Trumpite.
That's entirely consistent, and proves my point.
The first statement is hugely polarising! The wokeists Dems, such as they are, lost the Presidential primaries to a centrist 78 year old tradionional old school values candidate who would not be out of place in a govt led by Ken Clarke or even Margaret Thatcher. Yet in your mind its quite clear they have been "wholly" captured by the wokeists. It is baffling, pure and simple, even more so when you then also say you are against polarisation and absolutism.
Getting their excuses in early? What have the Dems been doing the last three months?
Name a single administration either side of the Atlantic that, in the days after taking power, doesn't do quite a bit of sucking of air through their teeth and saying "blimey, some cowboy's been working on this - I can fix it, but it'll cost". It's absolutely standard practice.
The behaviour of the outgoing administration, though, is almost uniquely un-standard.
Trump himself positively boasted about that in his goodbye speech at St Andrews Airforce base yesterday.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
That is what they're saying. Threatening to sue Pfizer about it.
Do they think that threatening to sue Pfizer will make vaccines turn up faster?
so Yang's "big idea" is just a bog-standard race-to-the-bottom
I think his big idea is UBI but getting that to add up is problematic so a little extra income is not the worst idea. He's an interesting guy but I don't think he has enough NY base to be a serious contender.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
The issue is that the EU upped it's order really late in the day, if they had made an order of 600m back in November when the trial results were made available those manufacturing upgrades could have been done before mass deliveries had started. This is literally happening now because the EU have asked for 300m more doses this year above the original order.
Actually it's slightly more complicated than that, as you probably know. And Pfizer have unilaterally reduced supplies with almost no notice, which has understandably annoyed people.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
I believe the reduction was temporary. I rather think that Pfizer are taking the blame for the lack of preparation in many countries to get the vaccine out there.
I think quite a few countries took the view that once the vaccine was approved, the usual channels for vaccination were sufficient.
Here in the NYC tri-state TV ads market we get inundated by ads for online casinos (a certain company called "Betfair" is one, maybe some PBers may have heard of them?) but they are restricted to those that they can verify by geolocation to New Jersey. I suspect that NYS and CT must be looking greedily at the tax revenue that NJ must be raking in and will legalize online gambling in their states very soon. I'm not sure I'd invest in a bricks-and-mortar casino in Manhattan should one be legalized.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
Yes although we know how badly organised things are in a lot of American states. I'm surprised how well they're doing in places like Mississippi where 5% have had a jab so far.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
The issue is that the EU upped it's order really late in the day, if they had made an order of 600m back in November when the trial results were made available those manufacturing upgrades could have been done before mass deliveries had started. This is literally happening now because the EU have asked for 300m more doses this year above the original order.
Actually it's slightly more complicated than that, as you probably know. And Pfizer have unilaterally reduced supplies with almost no notice, which has understandably annoyed people.
They did it to meet the promised H2 supply to the EU in the additional 300m order. I think you're blaming the wrong people for this. It's the incompetent people in the commission that didn't order enough when there was no manufacturing pressure that are at fault.
What did Kate Bingham say, something about building the plane while it's taxiing towards the runway and taking off. The EU have asked Pfizer to fix the plane after its taken off, you can't really blame Pfizer for that.
Is it my imagination or has the mentioning Trump ratio here and in the wider world decreased significantly? Won't last forever of course, but when the world moves on it moves on.
Yep. You are right. As hoped and predicted. It's like one day something is all there is, then it goes and the next day you find it quite hard to even remember. Especially if it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Him not being on Twitter really diminishes his voice, and services like Parler (now sort of back up) and Gab (still up, still quite mad) just aren't as popular.
Of course, One America News and the other one *may* keep their relevance. But equally, those celebrities on Fox - Hannity, and co - will probably bring the viewers back. And Murdoch (and therefore Fox) have decided that Trump is over.
So yes, Trump is without a voice. How does he make himself heard?
A very simple blog?
People would discuss it or reference it in tweets (even if not directly) so it would have traffic. Don't know how he'd host it because I'm sure someone would try and shut it down on the usual platforms.
He'd need an IT guy to design a bespoke one for him.
Here in the NYC tri-state TV ads market we get inundated by ads for online casinos (a certain company called "Betfair" is one, maybe some PBers may have heard of them?) but they are restricted to those that they can verify by geolocation to New Jersey. I suspect that NYS and CT must be looking greedily at the tax revenue that NJ must be raking in and will legalize online gambling in their states very soon. I'm not sure I'd invest in a bricks-and-mortar casino in Manhattan should one be legalized.
There was a rather humourous tale a few months ago of a NYC poker pro driving over to NJ every day to play in the WSOP online events, often via the free public wifi. He won one of the events for $160k from the Whole Foods parking lot in the middle of the night.
Here in the NYC tri-state TV ads market we get inundated by ads for online casinos (a certain company called "Betfair" is one, maybe some PBers may have heard of them?) but they are restricted to those that they can verify by geolocation to New Jersey. I suspect that NYS and CT must be looking greedily at the tax revenue that NJ must be raking in and will legalize online gambling in their states very soon. I'm not sure I'd invest in a bricks-and-mortar casino in Manhattan should one be legalized.
If there’s one casino for a population of 10m people, it’s pretty likely to be busy 24/7, doubly so about half an hour after the pubs close.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
That’s well under what the UK are doing already.
A useful point of reference is that Israel and UAE are each around six times smaller than UK by population, and USA is around six times bigger.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
The issue is that the EU upped it's order really late in the day, if they had made an order of 600m back in November when the trial results were made available those manufacturing upgrades could have been done before mass deliveries had started. This is literally happening now because the EU have asked for 300m more doses this year above the original order.
Actually it's slightly more complicated than that, as you probably know. And Pfizer have unilaterally reduced supplies with almost no notice, which has understandably annoyed people.
They did it to meet the promised H2 supply to the EU in the additional 300m order. I think you're blaming the wrong people for this. It's the incompetent people in the commission that didn't order enough when there was no manufacturing pressure that are at fault.
What did Kate Bingham say, something about building the plane while it's taxiing towards the runway and taking off. The EU have asked Pfizer to fix the plane after its taken off, you can't really blame Pfizer for that.
Max, do you know whether we're being hit here in the UK by Pfizer slowing down of deliveries?
Wait until the Olympics, when ‘medal’ becomes a verb.
Winningest is an Americanism that is creeping in more and more..
It's ugly but there really is no other word that does the job.
The Americanism winningmostdoes the job. I wonder if one started as a misheard version of the other.
I love new words that wrap up a concept or an activity better than the currently available vocab. Rubbernecking is still, decades on, one of my favorite neologisms.
Is "green-lighting" better or worse than "giving the go-ahead" or "approving"? Personally, I think it is for certain situations, as the traffic light reference implies not just approval, but approval for something that was previously held up.
Yes, like banoffee pie - an example of a popular tortemanteau
so Yang's "big idea" is just a bog-standard race-to-the-bottom
I think his big idea is UBI but getting that to add up is problematic so a little extra income is not the worst idea. He's an interesting guy but I don't think he has enough NY base to be a serious contender.
Feels like a reasonable lay, has been backed as short as 2.2 and plenty around 2.5 - wouldnt be surprised if he trades odds on at some point though, given he is the only candidate with international name recognition.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
No doubt, but if Trump had been promising 1m per day it would have been correctly labelled as unambitious. Biden is going to get a free pass for a while, let's hope it doesn't lead to poor decision making as it has in the EU.
It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.
It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.
It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.
If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.
I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.
I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
"It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"
"I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."
The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
What's inconsistent about that?
I mean it's been captured by people who are dogmatic about it, and I explained my criticism of that on here last night. Their reaction (and that of some others on here) to criticism of that seems to be that if you disagree with it you must be a bigot, extremist or Trumpite.
That's entirely consistent, and proves my point.
The first statement is hugely polarising! The wokeists Dems, such as they are, lost the Presidential primaries to a centrist 78 year old tradionional old school values candidate who would not be out of place in a govt led by Ken Clarke or even Margaret Thatcher. Yet in your mind its quite clear they have been "wholly" captured by the wokeists. It is baffling, pure and simple, even more so when you then also say you are against polarisation and absolutism.
They did, and I'm saying I can't see much evidence of him ditching that. In fact, to my mind, he seems to be over-compensating because he knows he's a straight old white man that beat everyone else.
Look, it's early days. Maybe it'll be fine, as you say. But the campaign material and rhetoric from Biden/Harris hasn't reassured thus far. And I don't think it's as inclusive as they think it is.
Contrast this to Obama who has criticised many aspects of Woke "activism" - and who I actively supported for office in 2008 - funnily enough, we don't hear much criticism of him as a reactionary or a Trumpite. A lot changed in the 2010s, coupled with the rapid rise of social media at the same time, and I'm really not sure we've got a grip on how to have the right conversations on this yet.
What drives traffic on social media is controversy. That's because it angers and animates in equal measures, on all sides, and so gets maximum retweets and coverage.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
That’s well under what the UK are doing already.
A useful point of reference is that Israel and UAE are each around six times smaller than UK by population, and USA is around six times bigger.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply?
Pfizer have reduced deliveries all over Europe. Hospitals here stopped vaccinating with a few hours notice because expected doses weren't delivered. Pfizer are making themselves very unpopular, I think they could have handled the issues better.
The issue is that the EU upped it's order really late in the day, if they had made an order of 600m back in November when the trial results were made available those manufacturing upgrades could have been done before mass deliveries had started. This is literally happening now because the EU have asked for 300m more doses this year above the original order.
Actually it's slightly more complicated than that, as you probably know. And Pfizer have unilaterally reduced supplies with almost no notice, which has understandably annoyed people.
They did it to meet the promised H2 supply to the EU in the additional 300m order. I think you're blaming the wrong people for this. It's the incompetent people in the commission that didn't order enough when there was no manufacturing pressure that are at fault.
What did Kate Bingham say, something about building the plane while it's taxiing towards the runway and taking off. The EU have asked Pfizer to fix the plane after its taken off, you can't really blame Pfizer for that.
Max, do you know whether we're being hit here in the UK by Pfizer slowing down of deliveries?
We are yes. One of our corporate intelligence people has it that all countries other than the US will see some capacity reductions until the end of February but the majority of the reductions are to EU27 supply because the manufacturing upgrades are being done at their behest.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
Yes although we know how badly organised things are in a lot of American states. I'm surprised how well they're doing in places like Mississippi where 5% have had a jab so far.
Wait until the Olympics, when ‘medal’ becomes a verb.
Winningest is an Americanism that is creeping in more and more..
It's ugly but there really is no other word that does the job.
The Americanism winningmostdoes the job. I wonder if one started as a misheard version of the other.
I love new words that wrap up a concept or an activity better than the currently available vocab. Rubbernecking is still, decades on, one of my favorite neologisms.
Is "green-lighting" better or worse than "giving the go-ahead" or "approving"? Personally, I think it is for certain situations, as the traffic light reference implies not just approval, but approval for something that was previously held up.
Tbh I thought the original objection was not to green-lighting as a verb but to green-lighted rather than green-lit as the past participle but I am a PBer of very little brain.
Do we think this will have a long-term effect on influenza - or could it just bounce back to previous levels in 2022? Has hand-washing become a change in behaviour that will keep it battered?
Yes well I suggest you listen to anyone taking except in the most formal of situations - like great speeches - and see how grammatically correct they are when you try and write it down.
People don't 'speak grammar'. Almost no one does these days. If this is something she has written then it is bloody awful. If it is something that has been transcribed from a two way conversation then it is stupid to expect it to be grammatically perfect.
You really don't need to tell me this. There are few things so humbling as reading the transcript of the cross examination of a witness and seeing your questions, which you thought had gone well at the time, reduced to black and white. Sometimes its depressing, sometimes just completely bewildering. What the hell was I even asking? Of course I blame the short hand writer 😜
My first ever speech, I think spoke every comma, full stop, brackets, colons, semi colons, parentheses, etc.
News from Pennsylvania THIS year, will be when Punxsutawney Phil emerges from his burrow . . . with a dozen uncounted ballots . . . all with write-in votes for Kanye West . . .
Do we think this will have a long-term effect on influenza - or could it just bounce back to previous levels in 2022? Has hand-washing become a change in behaviour that will keep it battered?
Not unless we permanently change behaviour - which is possible, I guess. What it does demonstrate is the the flu is considerably less infectious than Covid.
It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists; this will be the most toe-curlingly Woke and wanky US administration there has ever been.
It will do nothing to solve America's divisions or heal them, except exacerbate them further. The only question is whether the Republicans can capitalise on it in November 2022, or whether their own fratricidal civil war will consume them, giving more space to the nutters in the Dems.
It's comments like that which drive Trump's support.
If you say to people, who oppose the way the Democrats say and do some things, "Ergh! Trumpite!", then you risk annoying them so much that they end up feeling compelled to pick the side you don't want.
I've been clear enough on here I couldn't actively support the Democrats or Republicans right now. I would never have voted for Trump. I might have voted Republican for the House but only to constrain Pelosi.
I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation.
"It's quite clear the Democrats have been wholly captured by the Wokeists"
"I don't buy the you're either with us or against us narrative. Politics has to be more sophisticated than that if we want constructive solutions rather than polarisation."
The inconsistency gives my head a wobble, and many other posters too.
There is definitely a "good" Casino and a "bad" Casino.
Just don't make him angry...
Don't get him wet. Don't feed him after midnight......
A district in China’s capital city Beijing has been declared a “high risk” zone, meaning that people have been told to go into a strict lockdown.
Daxing district, in the south of the city, issued a notice yesterday banning people from leaving the city in the wake of rising cases. All public places have closed, and transport links have been restricted.
People in this district have been told to stay at home. In other parts of Beijing, businesses have been urged to cap their visitor flows at 50% capacity.
Nurseries across wider Beijing have announced they are closing amid growing fears of a wider outbreak. Local health officials say that the UK variant has been detected amidst the cases, and that this has made anti-epidemic work “more difficult”.
And the danger is the health benefits of masks etc might get baked in to help with flu in a 'new normal'...
I think that the general view is that excess deaths is going to be the best measurement of the consequences of the pandemic but this must be a significant counterbalance to the deaths caused by Covid.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
That is what they're saying. Threatening to sue Pfizer about it.
Do they think that threatening to sue Pfizer will make vaccines turn up faster?
Particularly when the delay is to enable Pfizer to meet its new, expanded, annual production targets.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
That’s well under what the UK are doing already.
A useful point of reference is that Israel and UAE are each around six times smaller than UK by population, and USA is around six times bigger.
US is 5.7x population
So 350K per day here is 2m a day for them....
I'm slightly uneasy about these comparisons. By all means, scale up if you want to compare proportions vaccinated, but we should not lose sight of the fact that America, even under the last bloke who was not even trying, jabbed more than twice as many a day as we managed.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
No doubt, but if Trump had been promising 1m per day it would have been correctly labelled as unambitious. Biden is going to get a free pass for a while, let's hope it doesn't lead to poor decision making as it has in the EU.
The point surely is that Trump did not set a target at all. Now that is unambitious.
I've read it twice and Priti's words seem unobjectionable.
It doesnt flow well at all but as you say unobjectionable and its unreasonable to expect everything a politician says to sound like peak JFK. Patel does seem to come in for a lot of criticism on here, some justified, but feels like its disproportionate to her actions and importance. I am guessing that is more to do with her education than gender or race, which is different to how it would have been twenty years ago.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
No doubt, but if Trump had been promising 1m per day it would have been correctly labelled as unambitious. Biden is going to get a free pass for a while, let's hope it doesn't lead to poor decision making as it has in the EU.
The point surely is that Trump did not set a target at all. Now that is unambitious.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
That’s well under what the UK are doing already.
A useful point of reference is that Israel and UAE are each around six times smaller than UK by population, and USA is around six times bigger.
US is 5.7x population
So 350K per day here is 2m a day for them....
I'm slightly uneasy about these comparisons. By all means, scale up if you want to compare proportions vaccinated, but we should not lose sight of the fact that America, even under the last bloke who was not even trying, jabbed more than twice as many a day as we managed.
Yes because America has a population 5x larger than the UK.
"Washington, DC, January 20, 2021 — More than eight in ten Americans rate President Joe Biden’s inauguration speech as good, according to an Ipsos snap poll conducted immediately following today’s speech.
Detailed Findings
Eighty-three percent say Biden’s speech was very (57%) or somewhat (26%) good. There is bipartisan agreement on this: 97% of Democrats rate Biden’s speech as good, along with 72% of Republicans and 78% of Independents.
When it comes to believing Biden’s rhetoric in the speech, Democrats are unified while Republicans are evenly split.
> Overall, around two-thirds of Americans believe Biden when he says he will be a president for all Americans, that his soul is in uniting the nation, and that he will fight as hard for those who did not support him as those who did (67% believe each of those statements).
> On those three, nearly equal numbers of Republicans believe those statements as those who do not believe, while around 90% of Democrats believe Biden’s words.
There is broad, bipartisan agreement with the themes of unity, democracy, and action that Biden outlined.
> Around three-quarters of Americans agree with what Biden said in his speech, that “Democracy is fragile, democracy is precious, and democracy has prevailed” (73% agree). This includes 91% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans.
> Larger numbers agree with the statement that “Each of us has a duty and responsibility to defend the truth and defeat the lies” (88% overall, including 98% of Democrats and 78% of Republicans).
About the Study
These are the findings of an Ipsos poll conducted between 2:00pm ET and 3:00pm ET on January 20, 2021. For this survey, a sample of 498 adults age 18-64 from the continental U.S., Alaska, and Hawaii was interviewed online in English."
[Goes on to say that] "the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 5.0 percentage points for all respondents."
Addendum - the omission of folks 65+ would appear problematic. HOWEVER, must say that the numbers above seem to me to make more sense, than the real-time reviews of Biden's speech posted on PB yesterday.
1m per day seems unambitious for a country the size of the US. It should be closer to 3m per day really to get anywhere near a summer herd immunity strategy.
It is obviously an easy goal to meet - so that he can report a success early on.
That’s well under what the UK are doing already.
A useful point of reference is that Israel and UAE are each around six times smaller than UK by population, and USA is around six times bigger.
US is 5.7x population
So 350K per day here is 2m a day for them....
I'm slightly uneasy about these comparisons. By all means, scale up if you want to compare proportions vaccinated, but we should not lose sight of the fact that America, even under the last bloke who was not even trying, jabbed more than twice as many a day as we managed.
The difference being that they had x times as many doctors and nurses, x times as much vaccine.
What's going on in Italy with vaccinations, the past 4-5 days slowed right down. Are they out of supply? Germany and Spain seemed to have stalled in expanding capacity.
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
That is what they're saying. Threatening to sue Pfizer about it.
Do they think that threatening to sue Pfizer will make vaccines turn up faster?
Particularly when the delay is to enable Pfizer to meet its new, expanded, annual production targets.
If anyone should be bringing out the lawyers, it is the UK. Perhaps we should be getting all the supply until our quota has been delivered?
I hope we have put an order in for the updated South Africa / Brazil version already, even if there's no plan to make it yet.
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Of course, One America News and the other one *may* keep their relevance. But equally, those celebrities on Fox - Hannity, and co - will probably bring the viewers back. And Murdoch (and therefore Fox) have decided that Trump is over.
So yes, Trump is without a voice. How does he make himself heard?
Ten months ago, the likely big picture was pretty clear; a hard lockdown to get the initial surge back under control, softer (but not that soft) measures and lots of outdoors over the summer, likely harder measures over the autumn and winter, keep buggering on until lots of people had been protected by vaccination. At that point, the virus stops being able to go viral (so to speak) and most of us can go back to normal.
And from pretty early on, the scientists were saying that this virus looks pretty vaccinatable, maybe a year to get a vaccine ready and tested and a year or so after that to make billions of doses and get them into sufficient arms. And let's remember that Covid-09 would have been a very different, much nastier, proposition.
The UK has made a genuinely impressively fast start on the vaccination. But we're still thinking in terms of summertime for herd immunity and us shouting "faster, faster" isn't going to make the factory production runs go any quicker.
And I am still nervous that a combination of Boris wanting to be able to say "freedom!" and get one over on the Euro-johnnies, and Rishi wanting everyone back at work, is going to tempt the government to reopen prematurely. Even though they must know that just leads to Wave 4 and Lockdown 4.
Action taken against him to either suspend his twitter account or impeach or even criminal charges would look very politically motivated. Instead he gave them all perfectly valid reasons to do all of the above.
Is "green-lighting" better or worse than "giving the go-ahead" or "approving"? Personally, I think it is for certain situations, as the traffic light reference implies not just approval, but approval for something that was previously held up.
If he believes his own "stolen election" guff (which I still doubt but maybe), then there's no reason to believe the "fraud" won't be as bad or worse in 2024. And if he doesn't then there's no reason to believe he'd not lose again, which he plainly doesn't enjoy.
He's created a "rightful winner" bubble for himself and his fans to live in where he will find some peace in an odd way, and think the value is betting against him personally leaving that bubble to give it another go, even if he floats the idea from time to time to remain relevant and in the news.
That's aside from the legal and financial issues he needs to address and which will be time and energy-consuming.
That said is most of this not done at State level?
I presume, as with many of these things, it is a case of "what do you count in the international comparison".
Major other European countries are still only averaging 60-70k / day. That has to be supply issues surely?
Others tax benefits, some do not.
One of the other drivers are is the benefit system contributory or not, some countries have 'high' benefits but limit to very few, whereas here in the UK young benefit claimants can claim whilst never contributing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/world/pfizer-delay-in-vaccine-italy.html
The executive branch has been doing something vaccine provision - in the US it goes through the Fed gov, to the states.
That the plan/operations are ridiculously bad is a given - the other day, they announced that they were going to release the stockpile for the second does. Which turned out to be a stockpile of... no doses...
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/12/vaccines-ready-but-no-distribution-operation-warp-speed-meets-speed-bumps/
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/01/there-is-no-covid-vaccine-reserve-trump-admin-already-shipped-it/
etc etc.
I think they will meet their targets.
10 executive orders today relating to pandemic response. The idea that the incoming administration hasn't planned is absurd.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/biden-10-executive-orders-pandemic-460996
Oh! 🤤
The current number is around 900K per day
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccination-doses?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=earliest..latest&country=~USA®ion=World
Bridgwater Muller worker dies and 95 staff self-isolating
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-55749175
I think quite a few countries took the view that once the vaccine was approved, the usual channels for vaccination were sufficient.
For now, at least. Surprised that things went wonky. Might have been a coincidence, rather than caused by the storm.
Groundhog day.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/
What did Kate Bingham say, something about building the plane while it's taxiing towards the runway and taking off. The EU have asked Pfizer to fix the plane after its taken off, you can't really blame Pfizer for that.
People would discuss it or reference it in tweets (even if not directly) so it would have traffic. Don't know how he'd host it because I'm sure someone would try and shut it down on the usual platforms.
He'd need an IT guy to design a bespoke one for him.
https://twitter.com/depaulo_ryan/status/1282600527839334400?s=20
A useful point of reference is that Israel and UAE are each around six times smaller than UK by population, and USA is around six times bigger.
Look, it's early days. Maybe it'll be fine, as you say. But the campaign material and rhetoric from Biden/Harris hasn't reassured thus far. And I don't think it's as inclusive as they think it is.
Contrast this to Obama who has criticised many aspects of Woke "activism" - and who I actively supported for office in 2008 - funnily enough, we don't hear much criticism of him as a reactionary or a Trumpite. A lot changed in the 2010s, coupled with the rapid rise of social media at the same time, and I'm really not sure we've got a grip on how to have the right conversations on this yet.
What drives traffic on social media is controversy. That's because it angers and animates in equal measures, on all sides, and so gets maximum retweets and coverage.
The green ink men used to just be ignored.
So 350K per day here is 2m a day for them....
That does not put a spring in your step that this regime is going to grab Covid by the scruff of the neck.
Not great, but not completely atrocious.
Yet another unintended consequence of political correctness gone wild!
"NMR spectroscopy, underlined, full stop."
What it does demonstrate is the the flu is considerably less infectious than Covid.
What I wrote was just a joke!
"Looks like @RealDonaldTrump has hijacked @Casino_Royale's account!!!"
Daxing district, in the south of the city, issued a notice yesterday banning people from leaving the city in the wake of rising cases. All public places have closed, and transport links have been restricted.
People in this district have been told to stay at home. In other parts of Beijing, businesses have been urged to cap their visitor flows at 50% capacity.
Nurseries across wider Beijing have announced they are closing amid growing fears of a wider outbreak. Local health officials say that the UK variant has been detected amidst the cases, and that this has made anti-epidemic work “more difficult”.
https://twitter.com/chroniclelive/status/1352257648188653569?s=21
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Biden-inauguration-speech
"Washington, DC, January 20, 2021 — More than eight in ten Americans rate President Joe Biden’s inauguration speech as good, according to an Ipsos snap poll conducted immediately following today’s speech.
Detailed Findings
Eighty-three percent say Biden’s speech was very (57%) or somewhat (26%) good. There is bipartisan agreement on this: 97% of Democrats rate Biden’s speech as good, along with 72% of Republicans and 78% of Independents.
When it comes to believing Biden’s rhetoric in the speech, Democrats are unified while Republicans are evenly split.
> Overall, around two-thirds of Americans believe Biden when he says he will be a president for all Americans, that his soul is in uniting the nation, and that he will fight as hard for those who did not support him as those who did (67% believe each of those statements).
> On those three, nearly equal numbers of Republicans believe those statements as those who do not believe, while around 90% of Democrats believe Biden’s words.
There is broad, bipartisan agreement with the themes of unity, democracy, and action that Biden outlined.
> Around three-quarters of Americans agree with what Biden said in his speech, that “Democracy is fragile, democracy is precious, and democracy has prevailed” (73% agree). This includes 91% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans.
> Larger numbers agree with the statement that “Each of us has a duty and responsibility to defend the truth and defeat the lies” (88% overall, including 98% of Democrats and 78% of Republicans).
About the Study
These are the findings of an Ipsos poll conducted between 2:00pm ET and 3:00pm ET on January 20, 2021. For this survey, a sample of 498 adults age 18-64 from the continental U.S., Alaska, and Hawaii was interviewed online in English."
[Goes on to say that] "the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 5.0 percentage points for all respondents."
Addendum - the omission of folks 65+ would appear problematic. HOWEVER, must say that the numbers above seem to me to make more sense, than the real-time reviews of Biden's speech posted on PB yesterday.
I hope we have put an order in for the updated South Africa / Brazil version already, even if there's no plan to make it yet.