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Aliexpress also does the same which is somewhat more surprising - although it stops the old games of customs roulette where half the time you get a charge (with £8 service charge on top) and the rest of the time you don't.Mexicanpete said:
Collected at checkout by eBay, fortunately the item was only £6.50, so no big deal. Over the years I have been hit by HMRC for customs and VAT charges for high value items from the US, Japan and Australia, via the courier, but never Chinese tat.Carnyx said:
Shouldn't think this is Brexit, unless it was imported into the EU first and VAT paid there.Mexicanpete said:Off topic
WTF, I have just been charged VAT at 20% over and above purchase price on ebay from a Chinese product for the first time. I assumed it was vat paid, but not so it seems. Apparently "according to the UK 2021 VAT e-commerce package, we will collect and remit VAT where eBay is deemed supplier". Is this another example of Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving?
Where was it sent from? HMRC and the Post Office/Fedex etc have beenm collecting VAT on certain items sent from outside the UK/EU for years (above a certain trigger level). Not books but e.g. hobby items (in my case).
Good explanations on here from TSE and Thommo.0 -
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-121913572 -
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.0 -
By which point the damage had been done.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, he was a poorly written charachter.eek said:
The reason why Wesley Crusher is hated is from memory a writers strike which meant that a number of Wesley Crusher focused stories (from which only 1 was supposed to be used) all had to be used as nothing else was available.TheScreamingEagles said:
Will Wheaton on the other hand is delightful.JohnLilburne said:
Christ he was so annoying. I always hoped Worf would eat him.Mary_Batty said:
And you are Wesley CrusherMaxPB said:
No, if the EU is the federation then we're the Maquis. The EU is closer to the Borg though. Russia are the Orion syndicate.RochdalePioneers said:
No, NI is the Demilitarised Zone. The EU is the Federation, we are the Cardassians. Arlene Forster is Quark.RobD said:Perhaps the new UK/EU neutral zone: NI.
The other issue was TNG had a lot of executive producers and writers who didn't stay long, so there was no good plan for him.
It was only when Michael Piller joined that he became a decent character.0 -
Biden was mainly preferred as he was not Trump, he does not have the same appeal here as Obama did.stodge said:Afternoon all
I'm sure any visit of Biden's to the UK will receive as much positive coverage as did Obama's first visit. I can certainly imagine plenty of cheering crowds in London and elsewhere and that will further raise the feelgood mood which we are told by some has already ensured Conservative re-election in 2024.
Why not go for a snap autumn poll, Boris - the only thing better than a majority of 80 would be a majority of 280?
On current polls the Tories would also lose seats and quite possibly their majority, there is zero chance of Boris calling a general election before 20240 -
Theuniondivvie said:
I'm sure with just a wee bit more healing and reconciliation Trump and his followers can change for the better. One more push, comrade!kinabalu said:
Indeed. And well done Bush for that. But for me an even starker and more telling comparison is between Obama and Trump.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
Obama did a courteous and professional handover to a man who had smeared him left right & centre, including the promotion of an overtly racist conspiracy theory about his birthplace. 4 years later Trump won't admit losing the election and refutes the democratic process, foments social unrest and riots, does no transition at all, and scarpers off to Florida rather than even meet his successor and shake hands.
This gap in quality between two human beings is surely about as great as it could be possibly be barring outlandish thought experiments like Katie Hopkins and Dame Judi Dench. - Yep. We're gonna heal them so bad they won't know which way is up. 0 -
I wonder how May will go?stodge said:Afternoon all
I'm sure any visit of Biden's to the UK will receive as much positive coverage as did Obama's first visit. I can certainly imagine plenty of cheering crowds in London and elsewhere and that will further raise the feelgood mood which we are told by some has already ensured Conservative re-election in 2024.
Why not go for a snap autumn poll, Boris - the only thing better than a majority of 80 would be a majority of 280?0 -
Ah OK, I though I had read he was coming in November, that seemed like a long way off. June makes more sense. Is this the one where the whole world will be there to enjoy the splendour of West Cornwall's road infrastructure?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is due to attend the G7 meeting here in the UK in June to which Boris has invited Australia, India and South Korea as guestsOnlyLivingBoy said:On topic, based on previous presidents' behaviour, either Canada or Mexico is surely likely to be Biden's first international visit. Trump was the exception, going to the Middle East first, but other presidents going back at least to Reagan have gone to one of the US's North American neighbours first. After that it seems like the UK could be first. It's a bit hard to believe that Biden won't leave his own continent before November, although I guess he doesn't need the air miles.
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I'm 6.2. I suppose they're medium.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-121913571 -
'On current polls the Tories would also lose seats and quite possibly their majority'HYUFD said:
Biden was mainly preferred as he was not Trump, he does not have the same appeal here as Obama did.stodge said:Afternoon all
I'm sure any visit of Biden's to the UK will receive as much positive coverage as did Obama's first visit. I can certainly imagine plenty of cheering crowds in London and elsewhere and that will further raise the feelgood mood which we are told by some has already ensured Conservative re-election in 2024.
Why not go for a snap autumn poll, Boris - the only thing better than a majority of 80 would be a majority of 280?
On current polls the Tories would also lose seats and quite possibly their majority, there is zero chance of Boris calling a general election before 2024
That's one of the most cheering posts you've posted for ages!1 -
Or he has four Newfoundlands in his sitting room.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
Admittedly a lot of Irish Setters are underbred these days - or were some years back when AIUI they became briefly trendy and the puppy farms seem to have got in on the act - and the bitches in particular are rather small.
Hardly ever see the breed arouind now, worse luck, so it's hard to judge the current situation.0 -
They really struggled to find stories for him, so made him a boy genius, so he could either solve problems which experts (like Data/Geordie etc) couldn't solve, or some cringy 'coming of age' story. The fact he was made an 'acting ensign', and not only that an actual bridge member on what was the flagship of Starfleet, which should have been something the best of the best were on just was a terrible idea.eek said:
By which point the damage had been done.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, he was a poorly written charachter.eek said:
The reason why Wesley Crusher is hated is from memory a writers strike which meant that a number of Wesley Crusher focused stories (from which only 1 was supposed to be used) all had to be used as nothing else was available.TheScreamingEagles said:
Will Wheaton on the other hand is delightful.JohnLilburne said:
Christ he was so annoying. I always hoped Worf would eat him.Mary_Batty said:
And you are Wesley CrusherMaxPB said:
No, if the EU is the federation then we're the Maquis. The EU is closer to the Borg though. Russia are the Orion syndicate.RochdalePioneers said:
No, NI is the Demilitarised Zone. The EU is the Federation, we are the Cardassians. Arlene Forster is Quark.RobD said:Perhaps the new UK/EU neutral zone: NI.
The other issue was TNG had a lot of executive producers and writers who didn't stay long, so there was no good plan for him.
It was only when Michael Piller joined that he became a decent character.
A much better character was Jake on DS9, where they actually let him be a kid, not a genius, and to find his own way away from starfleet.1 -
Most dogs are surprisingly good with babies/toddlers but the smaller ones are best for that reason I think.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
We got our little dog as a puppy when my youngest was three weeks old. The dog would growl if others tried to pick her up when she didn't want to be picked up but the toddler could be as rough as she wanted picking her up and she'd just sit there and play with her, unless she grabbed her tail.
I swear until my daughter could walk and talk her and puppy seemed to think act like they were twins. Very close to each other.2 -
Not at all, fair return for having to put up with the consequences of HMG's useless border policy and stop start financial support for lockdowns. A 50% discount on a shitty pub meal doesn't really cut it.felix said:
I'll put you down for a no to the vaccine then.?Theuniondivvie said:
Swings and roundabouts innitfelix said:
Yup I if I were you I'd refuse the UK vaccine and wait for the EU one - much safer and the right thing to do.malcolmg said:
'UK now has highest Covid death rate in the world'
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Was it not under your pillow? I looked but mine wasn’t there either.Mexicanpete said:
So it seems...but, but where is my post Brexit, sod the EU, sovereignty bonus? I thought we had left!RobD said:
Sounds as though you can blame the EU for that one.Mexicanpete said:Off topic
WTF, I have just been charged VAT at 20% over and above purchase price on ebay from a Chinese product for the first time. I assumed it was vat paid, but not so it seems. Apparently "according to the UK 2021 VAT e-commerce package, we will collect and remit VAT where eBay is deemed supplier". Is this another example of Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving?
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We had a border collie when I was little. After that all other forms of dog seem inadequate, and it's too urban where we live for a collie to be happy, I think. A cat is a lot less work, too.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.1 -
Indeed, Jake Sisko was involved in the one Star Trek episode that made me cry, and I've watched them all.Slackbladder said:
They really struggled to find stories for him, so made him a boy genius, so he could either solve problems which experts (like Data/Geordie etc) couldn't solve, or some cringy 'coming of age' story. The fact he was made an 'acting ensign', and not only that an actual bridge member on what was the flagship of Starfleet, which should have been something the best of the best were on just was a terrible idea.eek said:
By which point the damage had been done.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, he was a poorly written charachter.eek said:
The reason why Wesley Crusher is hated is from memory a writers strike which meant that a number of Wesley Crusher focused stories (from which only 1 was supposed to be used) all had to be used as nothing else was available.TheScreamingEagles said:
Will Wheaton on the other hand is delightful.JohnLilburne said:
Christ he was so annoying. I always hoped Worf would eat him.Mary_Batty said:
And you are Wesley CrusherMaxPB said:
No, if the EU is the federation then we're the Maquis. The EU is closer to the Borg though. Russia are the Orion syndicate.RochdalePioneers said:
No, NI is the Demilitarised Zone. The EU is the Federation, we are the Cardassians. Arlene Forster is Quark.RobD said:Perhaps the new UK/EU neutral zone: NI.
The other issue was TNG had a lot of executive producers and writers who didn't stay long, so there was no good plan for him.
It was only when Michael Piller joined that he became a decent character.
A much better character was Jake on DS9, where they actually let him be a kid, not a genius, and to find his own way away from starfleet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Visitor_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)0 -
So true. But a black president having to hand over to a man who had whipped up and exploited white supremacy racism in order to get the job. That was a little bit special.Malmesbury said:
But for me an even starker and more telling comparison is between {nearly anyone vaguely on the same planet as decency} and Trump.kinabalu said:
Indeed. And well done Bush for that.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
But for me an even starker and more telling comparison is between Obama and Trump.
Obama did a courteous and professional handover to a man who had smeared him left right & centre, including the promotion of an overtly racist conspiracy theory about his birthplace.
4 years later Trump won't admit losing the election and thus refutes the democratic process.
He foments social unrest and riots, does no transition at all, and scarpers off to Florida rather than even meet his successor and shake hands.
This gap in quality between two human beings is surely about as great as it could possibly be barring outlandish thought experiments like Katie Hopkins and Dame Judi Dench.
It's a graph. In corner you have Bernie Sanders to George W. Bush. Dick Cheney even. You have to zoom out a long, long way before Trump and his ilk show up. By then, Sanders and Cheney are practically one dot.1 -
Yes it is in Cornwall, and November is the big climate change conference hosted by Boris in GlasgowOnlyLivingBoy said:
Ah OK, I though I had read he was coming in November, that seemed like a long way off. June makes more sense. Is this the one where the whole world will be there to enjoy the splendour of West Cornwall's road infrastructure?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is due to attend the G7 meeting here in the UK in June to which Boris has invited Australia, India and South Korea as guestsOnlyLivingBoy said:On topic, based on previous presidents' behaviour, either Canada or Mexico is surely likely to be Biden's first international visit. Trump was the exception, going to the Middle East first, but other presidents going back at least to Reagan have gone to one of the US's North American neighbours first. After that it seems like the UK could be first. It's a bit hard to believe that Biden won't leave his own continent before November, although I guess he doesn't need the air miles.
And according to a report yesterday the leaders will be landed by helicopters on the beach in June1 -
Uber giving "free" trips to vaccinations centres (terms and conditions apply)...
https://www.uber.com/en-GB/blog/vaccinations/0 -
My questions are usually serious, I don't really do sarcasm. Thanks for the reply.TOPPING said:
If that is a serious question (we have discussed it many times on here) then no one really knows. There was a low number (around 50% I believe) bandied around but that was thought to be catching pre-existing cases. After 14-21 days the efficiency rose significantly to 80-90%.Andy_JS said:
But no one knows because no trial was designed, nor has one been carried out, to determine the answer.
How to Vaccinate the World is your friend here. Specifically, IIRC, this episode.0 -
There is a chap named Hugh in my town who has a business giving canines their exercise.DecrepiterJohnL said:
There are a lot more bad owners thanks to Covid. The pavements round here are like an obstacle course thanks to non-scooping dog owners. This time last year they were clean.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
Speaking of new dog owners, according to one of the front pages this morning, Boris is to relax the rules on dog-walking or something (tbh I did not read it).
It is called " Shug's Dugs ".0 -
Looking back they should have probably done what they did with DS9, and had a more loose cast with regular guest characters from the start. They ended up doing that more, with characters like Guinan, Barclay, Ro, Kekio and the like, but Wesley would have been much better on that level, rather than a weekly cast member.TheScreamingEagles said:
Indeed, Jake Sisko was involved in the one Star Trek episode that made me cry, and I've watched them all.Slackbladder said:
They really struggled to find stories for him, so made him a boy genius, so he could either solve problems which experts (like Data/Geordie etc) couldn't solve, or some cringy 'coming of age' story. The fact he was made an 'acting ensign', and not only that an actual bridge member on what was the flagship of Starfleet, which should have been something the best of the best were on just was a terrible idea.eek said:
By which point the damage had been done.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yup, he was a poorly written charachter.eek said:
The reason why Wesley Crusher is hated is from memory a writers strike which meant that a number of Wesley Crusher focused stories (from which only 1 was supposed to be used) all had to be used as nothing else was available.TheScreamingEagles said:
Will Wheaton on the other hand is delightful.JohnLilburne said:
Christ he was so annoying. I always hoped Worf would eat him.Mary_Batty said:
And you are Wesley CrusherMaxPB said:
No, if the EU is the federation then we're the Maquis. The EU is closer to the Borg though. Russia are the Orion syndicate.RochdalePioneers said:
No, NI is the Demilitarised Zone. The EU is the Federation, we are the Cardassians. Arlene Forster is Quark.RobD said:Perhaps the new UK/EU neutral zone: NI.
The other issue was TNG had a lot of executive producers and writers who didn't stay long, so there was no good plan for him.
It was only when Michael Piller joined that he became a decent character.
A much better character was Jake on DS9, where they actually let him be a kid, not a genius, and to find his own way away from starfleet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Visitor_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)0 -
599 deaths and 37,535 cases announced today.0
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Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.4 -
I worry about many lockdown puppies. To prevent problems down the line (associated with fear and territory) puppies need to be socialised both with other dogs and with people - large and small. With lockdown there is relatively little of that. Same with strangers coming into their home. With such activity curtailed the only people they are comfortable with in their home are their owning family.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
That is storing up trouble ahead because it is possible that such dogs will react naturally, if anti-socially, to people and "intruders" in the months and years ahead.1 -
So they kept over the 3x multiplier for vaccines even with the weekend effect? Weekend effect on all figures I suspect.TheScreamingEagles said:599 deaths and 37,535 cases announced today.
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Yes I was hoping to avail myself of that option last time I was in Cornwall but sadly had to negotiate the long slow moving line of caravans instead.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes it is in Cornwall, and November is the big climate change conference hosted by Boris in GlasgowOnlyLivingBoy said:
Ah OK, I though I had read he was coming in November, that seemed like a long way off. June makes more sense. Is this the one where the whole world will be there to enjoy the splendour of West Cornwall's road infrastructure?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is due to attend the G7 meeting here in the UK in June to which Boris has invited Australia, India and South Korea as guestsOnlyLivingBoy said:On topic, based on previous presidents' behaviour, either Canada or Mexico is surely likely to be Biden's first international visit. Trump was the exception, going to the Middle East first, but other presidents going back at least to Reagan have gone to one of the US's North American neighbours first. After that it seems like the UK could be first. It's a bit hard to believe that Biden won't leave his own continent before November, although I guess he doesn't need the air miles.
And according to a report yesterday the leaders will be landed by helicopters on the beach in June1 -
We're reality TV stars with big bottoms?RochdalePioneers said:
No, NI is the Demilitarised Zone. The EU is the Federation, we are the Cardassians. Arlene Forster is Quark.RobD said:Perhaps the new UK/EU neutral zone: NI.
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Only to one of the large regional centres, only for trips of less than £15, and only one way. So as much use to most people as a chocolate teapot.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber giving "free" trips to vaccinations centres (terms and conditions apply)...
https://www.uber.com/en-GB/blog/vaccinations/
But loads of positive headlines “Uber gives free trips for vaccinations”.
Perhaps the scummiest of the scummy tech companies.0 -
I used to think a cat was less work. My cat thought otherwise.OnlyLivingBoy said:
We had a border collie when I was little. After that all other forms of dog seem inadequate, and it's too urban where we live for a collie to be happy, I think. A cat is a lot less work, too.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
And then I started knitting.
I think my opinion now is that animals belong outside, or on a plate.0 -
Mexicanpete said:
It's not about the efficacy, its about the numbers vacinated before September. This is the politics of Covid now, and Johnson is winning the Covid PR battle hands down, a massive improvement from the Cummings era.ydoethur said:
By which he means, 'around 4 million people have received the FIRST DOSE of a vaccine.'HYUFD said:
Which is not at all the same thing.
So what if we all need two shots this time next year because the first, single dose only programme didn't give us the required resistance? The PR war against Covid is won, and it has been won by the Conservative Party. BBC lunchtime news was all about vaccine numbers, nothing about hospitalisations and deaths, those stats are so 2020.
Surely the strategy is based on the efficacy, as proposed by that famous Boris fan, erm, Tony Blair?
There's a 12-week gap as this maximises protection across the nation.
Do you oppose that strategy? If so, why?2 -
The other issue my dog owning friends have flagged up is that the puppies/lockdown adopted dogs have become used to their owners being at home 24/7.TOPPING said:
I worry about many lockdown puppies. To prevent problems down the line (associated with fear and territory) puppies need to be socialised both with other dogs and with people - large and small. With lockdown there is relatively little of that. Same with strangers coming into their home. With such activity curtailed the only people they are comfortable with in their home are their owning family.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
That is storing up trouble ahead because it is possible that such dogs will react naturally, if anti-socially, to people and "intruders" in the months and years ahead.
Once they are vaccinated and start going back to the workplace then these dogs are going to have issues.2 -
Tomorrow is Tuesday.... and yet again.....Philip_Thompson said:
So they kept over the 3x multiplier for vaccines even with the weekend effect? Weekend effect on all figures I suspect.TheScreamingEagles said:599 deaths and 37,535 cases announced today.
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Also true.TheScreamingEagles said:
The other issue my dog owning friends have flagged up is that the puppies/lockdown adopted dogs have become used to their owners being at home 24/7.TOPPING said:
I worry about many lockdown puppies. To prevent problems down the line (associated with fear and territory) puppies need to be socialised both with other dogs and with people - large and small. With lockdown there is relatively little of that. Same with strangers coming into their home. With such activity curtailed the only people they are comfortable with in their home are their owning family.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
That is storing up trouble ahead because it is possible that such dogs will react naturally, if anti-socially, to people and "intruders" in the months and years ahead.
Once they are vaccinated and start going back to the workplace then these dogs are going to have issues.0 -
You could also say that the, frankly overblown hysteria about 'W' meant that a lot of people were desensitised to the warnings when it came to Trump.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
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My father had a dog, a Welsh terrier, like that; really nasty with visitors. My wife, then my fiancée wasn't used to dogs and when she came to visit, it really frightened her. Fortunately she and I lived a long way away so only came once or twice, and then not for long.TOPPING said:
I worry about many lockdown puppies. To prevent problems down the line (associated with fear and territory) puppies need to be socialised both with other dogs and with people - large and small. With lockdown there is relatively little of that. Same with strangers coming into their home. With such activity curtailed the only people they are comfortable with in their home are their owning family.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
That is storing up trouble ahead because it is possible that such dogs will react naturally, if anti-socially, to people and "intruders" in the months and years ahead.0 -
I can't remember if I've posted this before - and apols if I have - but I was savaged by an Alsatian when I was 3 and it's left me with a deep rooted anxiety around all dogs except the really poncy little ones. It's quite an inconvenient phobia. Gets in the way of quite a few things.Philip_Thompson said:
Most dogs are surprisingly good with babies/toddlers but the smaller ones are best for that reason I think.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
We got our little dog as a puppy when my youngest was three weeks old. The dog would growl if others tried to pick her up when she didn't want to be picked up but the toddler could be as rough as she wanted picking her up and she'd just sit there and play with her, unless she grabbed her tail.
I swear until my daughter could walk and talk her and puppy seemed to think act like they were twins. Very close to each other.4 -
Ha ha, I loved this "decency as a graphic" exposition.Malmesbury said:
But for me an even starker and more telling comparison is between {nearly anyone vaguely on the same planet as decency} and Trump.kinabalu said:
Indeed. And well done Bush for that.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
But for me an even starker and more telling comparison is between Obama and Trump.
Obama did a courteous and professional handover to a man who had smeared him left right & centre, including the promotion of an overtly racist conspiracy theory about his birthplace.
4 years later Trump won't admit losing the election and thus refutes the democratic process.
He foments social unrest and riots, does no transition at all, and scarpers off to Florida rather than even meet his successor and shake hands.
This gap in quality between two human beings is surely about as great as it could possibly be barring outlandish thought experiments like Katie Hopkins and Dame Judi Dench.
It's a graph. In corner you have Bernie Sanders to George W. Bush. Dick Cheney even. You have to zoom out a long, long way before Trump and his ilk show up. By then, Sanders and Cheney are practically one dot.
Bravo!
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In bare feet and not on tip toes?Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm 6.2. I suppose they're medium.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
If so, that's unusual.0 -
Does W stand for WMD?Slackbladder said:
You could also say that the, frankly overblown hysteria about 'W' meant that a lot of people were desensitised to the warnings when it came to Trump.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.0 -
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.6 -
Walker.Theuniondivvie said:
Does W stand for WMD?Slackbladder said:
You could also say that the, frankly overblown hysteria about 'W' meant that a lot of people were desensitised to the warnings when it came to Trump.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.0 -
Fortunately, the Cornish population has been reduced by several hundred thousand airport thriller writers. Much less crowded now...OnlyLivingBoy said:
Yes I was hoping to avail myself of that option last time I was in Cornwall but sadly had to negotiate the long slow moving line of caravans instead.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes it is in Cornwall, and November is the big climate change conference hosted by Boris in GlasgowOnlyLivingBoy said:
Ah OK, I though I had read he was coming in November, that seemed like a long way off. June makes more sense. Is this the one where the whole world will be there to enjoy the splendour of West Cornwall's road infrastructure?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is due to attend the G7 meeting here in the UK in June to which Boris has invited Australia, India and South Korea as guestsOnlyLivingBoy said:On topic, based on previous presidents' behaviour, either Canada or Mexico is surely likely to be Biden's first international visit. Trump was the exception, going to the Middle East first, but other presidents going back at least to Reagan have gone to one of the US's North American neighbours first. After that it seems like the UK could be first. It's a bit hard to believe that Biden won't leave his own continent before November, although I guess he doesn't need the air miles.
And according to a report yesterday the leaders will be landed by helicopters on the beach in June1 -
Probably fair comment, in hindsight.Slackbladder said:
You could also say that the, frankly overblown hysteria about 'W' meant that a lot of people were desensitised to the warnings when it came to Trump.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
I mean I was heartbroken when Bush won (on both occasions).
I would now consider a Bush as GOP presidential candidate as a cause for relief, even celebration.0 -
For deaths, yes, there is a strong weekend effect, and 599 is pretty bad for a Sunday. There's not much of a weekend effect for cases, though, so 37,535, while still pretty awful, represents a continuing movement in the right direction.Philip_Thompson said:
So they kept over the 3x multiplier for vaccines even with the weekend effect? Weekend effect on all figures I suspect.TheScreamingEagles said:599 deaths and 37,535 cases announced today.
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Roughly the 95th percentile for British males at age 18. You'd expect at least 16 MPs to be that tall, even if you had a perfect gender balance.kinabalu said:
In bare feet and not on tip toes?Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm 6.2. I suppose they're medium.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
If so, that's unusual.0 -
I know Carbis Bay well and I can thoroughly recommend the fish and chips from John Beck's in the St Ives Road.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Yes I was hoping to avail myself of that option last time I was in Cornwall but sadly had to negotiate the long slow moving line of caravans instead.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And according to a report yesterday the leaders will be landed by helicopters on the beach in June0 -
Bush really was delighted that someone with an African-American roots had become POTUS, I remember a quote from Bush in circa 2002 which said everyday America allowed slavery was a day America wasn't true to itself.Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
He also went out of his way to ensure Obama was looked after.
Normal precedent was that you only get Secret Service protection once you get the nomination, which is around April time, but according to the FBI it was clear people were looking to assassinate Obama, so Bush authorised the Secret Service to protect Obama well before that.
Edit - Also at Trump's inauguration, after Trump gave his speech, Bushed turned around to Michelle Obama and said 'Well that was some weird shit.'3 -
Hopkins currently in the USA (which she 'broke into' apparently) broadcasting about fighting and last stands.
You can choose to click on the link or not if you're fastidious about giving her the oxygen of publicity.
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Not compared to kids today - I'm amazed how many people I see who are taller than me.kinabalu said:
In bare feet and not on tip toes?Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm 6.2. I suppose they're medium.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
If so, that's unusual.0 -
The vaccination rollout has been a logistical triumph. It has (quite rightly) been a PR triumph too for the Government that organised it. Vaccination provision (quite justifiably ) is now the only metric worth contemplating. I can see the logic in vaccinating everyone with the first dose, and that is fine, but concerns have been raised that if the second dose misses the appropriate window, the process may have to be repeated from scratch. It is a balancing act. One dose for everyone, might be the best way to balance limited supply.Anabobazina said:Mexicanpete said:
It's not about the efficacy, its about the numbers vacinated before September. This is the politics of Covid now, and Johnson is winning the Covid PR battle hands down, a massive improvement from the Cummings era.ydoethur said:
By which he means, 'around 4 million people have received the FIRST DOSE of a vaccine.'HYUFD said:
Which is not at all the same thing.
So what if we all need two shots this time next year because the first, single dose only programme didn't give us the required resistance? The PR war against Covid is won, and it has been won by the Conservative Party. BBC lunchtime news was all about vaccine numbers, nothing about hospitalisations and deaths, those stats are so 2020.
Surely the strategy is based on the efficacy, as proposed by that famous Boris fan, erm, Tony Blair?
There's a 12-week gap as this maximises protection across the nation.
Do you oppose that strategy? If so, why?0 -
At least she's not talking about final solutions.Theuniondivvie said:Hopkins currently in the USA broadcasting about fighting and last stands.
You can choose to click on the link or not if you're fastidious about giving her the oxygen of publicity.
https://tinyurl.com/y6khrfwf0 -
Bad assessment day today unfortunately. Was being tested for 'interviewing' and ballsed it up by panicking and giving duff information without thinking right at the end. I'm hoping I'll still be considered "competent" but who knows.
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President Bush also did a great deal on debt relief, along with our most intellectual Prime Minister (FPT) Gordon Brown.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bush really was delighted that someone with an African-American roots had become POTUS, I remember a quote from Bush in circa 2002 which said everyday America allowed slavery was a day America wasn't true to itself.Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
He also went out of his way to ensure Obama was looked after.
Normal precedent was that you only get Secret Service protection once you get the nomination, which is around April time, but according to the FBI it was clear people were looking to assassinate Obama, so Bush authorised the Secret Service to protect Obama well before that.
Edit - Also at Trump's inauguration, after Trump gave his speech, Bushed turned around to Michelle Obama and said 'Well that was some weird shit.'0 -
I was attacked by our family dog when I was a toddler. I almost lost one eye. My mother called my dad at work. He came home immediately, and took the dog to the vet and had him put down. He got another dog as soon as he could and I've had a dog ever since, - 60 years - almost entirely German Shepherds (Alsatians). I sympathize with your phobia. I was just lucky. Just another example of getting back on the bike, I guess.kinabalu said:
I can't remember if I've posted this before - and apols if I have - but I was savaged by an Alsatian when I was 3 and it's left me with a deep rooted anxiety around all dogs except the really poncy little ones. It's quite an inconvenient phobia. Gets in the way of quite a few things.Philip_Thompson said:
Most dogs are surprisingly good with babies/toddlers but the smaller ones are best for that reason I think.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
We got our little dog as a puppy when my youngest was three weeks old. The dog would growl if others tried to pick her up when she didn't want to be picked up but the toddler could be as rough as she wanted picking her up and she'd just sit there and play with her, unless she grabbed her tail.
I swear until my daughter could walk and talk her and puppy seemed to think act like they were twins. Very close to each other.0 -
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Concicentalluy, when looking at the KH tweet referred to by TSE, I noticed this mutt costing his owner £300 plus:TOPPING said:
Also true.TheScreamingEagles said:
The other issue my dog owning friends have flagged up is that the puppies/lockdown adopted dogs have become used to their owners being at home 24/7.TOPPING said:
I worry about many lockdown puppies. To prevent problems down the line (associated with fear and territory) puppies need to be socialised both with other dogs and with people - large and small. With lockdown there is relatively little of that. Same with strangers coming into their home. With such activity curtailed the only people they are comfortable with in their home are their owning family.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
That is storing up trouble ahead because it is possible that such dogs will react naturally, if anti-socially, to people and "intruders" in the months and years ahead.
Once they are vaccinated and start going back to the workplace then these dogs are going to have issues.
https://twitter.com/TFrancis20/status/13507901682115584022 -
In Covid Top Trumps it would seem the 4million vaccinations card beats highest death rate in the world.Mexicanpete said:
Mexican wrote: The vaccination rollout has been a logistical triumph. It has (quite rightly) been a PR triumph too for the Government that organised it. Vaccination provision (quite justifiably ) is now the only metric worth contemplating. I can see the logic in vaccinating everyone with the first dose, and that is fine, but concerns have been raised that if the second dose misses the appropriate window, the process may have to be repeated from scratch. It is a balancing act. One dose for everyone, might be the best way to balance limited supply.Anabobazina said:Mexicanpete said:
It's not about the efficacy, its about the numbers vacinated before September. This is the politics of Covid now, and Johnson is winning the Covid PR battle hands down, a massive improvement from the Cummings era.ydoethur said:
By which he means, 'around 4 million people have received the FIRST DOSE of a vaccine.'HYUFD said:
Which is not at all the same thing.
So what if we all need two shots this time next year because the first, single dose only programme didn't give us the required resistance? The PR war against Covid is won, and it has been won by the Conservative Party. BBC lunchtime news was all about vaccine numbers, nothing about hospitalisations and deaths, those stats are so 2020.
Surely the strategy is based on the efficacy, as proposed by that famous Boris fan, erm, Tony Blair?
There's a 12-week gap as this maximises protection across the nation.
Do you oppose that strategy? If so, why?
Anabob wrote: If it were me, I'd actually do a slightly different strategy.
I'd run through the over 70s with dose one, then run through them all again with dose 2.
Then I'd conduct the same process with the over 50s and under 50s who have UHC.
The risk to U50s without UHC is so low that we can be left until last, for both doses.
But, as you say, it's a balancing act and there aren't any right or wrong answers in foresight, only in hindsight!0 -
Bono of U2 is a huge fan of W Bush as well.DecrepiterJohnL said:
President Bush also did a great deal on debt relief, along with our most intellectual Prime Minister (FPT) Gordon Brown.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bush really was delighted that someone with an African-American roots had become POTUS, I remember a quote from Bush in circa 2002 which said everyday America allowed slavery was a day America wasn't true to itself.Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
He also went out of his way to ensure Obama was looked after.
Normal precedent was that you only get Secret Service protection once you get the nomination, which is around April time, but according to the FBI it was clear people were looking to assassinate Obama, so Bush authorised the Secret Service to protect Obama well before that.
Edit - Also at Trump's inauguration, after Trump gave his speech, Bushed turned around to Michelle Obama and said 'Well that was some weird shit.'
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bono-george-w-bush-world-aids-day-761747/2 -
Salmond versus Sturgeon. It really isn't going away.
This from Mandy Rhodes of Holyrood Magazine who is by no means unsympathetic to SNP.
"I am heartily sick of hearing Sturgeon repeat the poor woman playbook that she is being punished for the behaviour of a man.
"I am offended by her batting off attempts at scrutiny over whether she lied or not with a reminder that this is about Salmond and not her.
"I am appalled by the claim that her chief of staff allegedly revealed the name of one of the complainants to someone who used to work for Salmond but at the time was no longer in government, never mind politics."
https://www.holyrood.com/editors-column/view,what-about-the-women0 -
Bush is responsible for getting on for a million (is it?) violent deaths, more than a few of them British deaths, due to a war he launched on an entirely false prospectus. I don't hate or resent him for that - I don't hate or resent anyone, however, it does seem more than a little ridiculous to eulogise him on the base of being better at the niceties of Presidential behaviour than one of his successors.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bush really was delighted that someone with an African-American roots had become POTUS, I remember a quote from Bush in circa 2002 which said everyday America allowed slavery was a day America wasn't true to itself.Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
He also went out of his way to ensure Obama was looked after.
Normal precedent was that you only get Secret Service protection once you get the nomination, which is around April time, but according to the FBI it was clear people were looking to assassinate Obama, so Bush authorised the Secret Service to protect Obama well before that.
Edit - Also at Trump's inauguration, after Trump gave his speech, Bushed turned around to Michelle Obama and said 'Well that was some weird shit.'0 -
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?HYUFD said:0 -
wowCarnyx said:
Concicentalluy, when looking at the KH tweet referred to by TSE, I noticed this mutt costing his owner £300 plus:TOPPING said:
Also true.TheScreamingEagles said:
The other issue my dog owning friends have flagged up is that the puppies/lockdown adopted dogs have become used to their owners being at home 24/7.TOPPING said:
I worry about many lockdown puppies. To prevent problems down the line (associated with fear and territory) puppies need to be socialised both with other dogs and with people - large and small. With lockdown there is relatively little of that. Same with strangers coming into their home. With such activity curtailed the only people they are comfortable with in their home are their owning family.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
That is storing up trouble ahead because it is possible that such dogs will react naturally, if anti-socially, to people and "intruders" in the months and years ahead.
Once they are vaccinated and start going back to the workplace then these dogs are going to have issues.
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Yes, very unusual. This is why I always doublecheck when somebody says they are that tall.LostPassword said:
Roughly the 95th percentile for British males at age 18. You'd expect at least 16 MPs to be that tall, even if you had a perfect gender balance.kinabalu said:
In bare feet and not on tip toes?Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm 6.2. I suppose they're medium.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
If so, that's unusual.0 -
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So the critical question is will the British public overlook the high(est? when all is said and done) death rate on account of the vaccine rollout efficacy?0
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"Love it". There's that 17% again. The basket of deplorables.HYUFD said:0 -
That's wonderful, it has kinda reminded me why I hate the RSPCA so much.Carnyx said:
Concicentalluy, when looking at the KH tweet referred to by TSE, I noticed this mutt costing his owner £300 plus:
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Ah! Thanks for explaining.Philip_Thompson said:
Its a long-running joke, that Trump is about to become Presidential (when the author of the joke knows he is not). I was joking that Trump could be the same and become Presidential while leaving office (he won't).Fysics_Teacher said:
I was talking about Bush, or have I missed the point of your comment?Philip_Thompson said:
"Today was the day that Donald Trump finally became President"?Fysics_Teacher said:
Would it be fair to say that nothing in his presidency became him like the leaving it?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I fear he may be leaving it a bit late...0 -
So? Could be Swing low, or whatever English rugger buggers sing in contrapuntion to Scots r. bs. belting out Flower of Scotland (not my favourite either).HYUFD said:
It's a meaningless survey.
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If Biden wanted to show a change of tone from Trump, how about a quick trip to Mexico?2
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AIUI there is no official national anthem of the UK, although GSTQ is sanctioned by usage.Carnyx said:
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?HYUFD said:
I think Jerusalem should be the English national anthem – it's a rousing tune.
The Londonderry Air (Oh Danny Boy) at least used to be the NI national anthem, but the title might be problematic.0 -
Wonder if that fandom is reciprocal. Does W dig The Joshua Tree?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bono of U2 is a huge fan of W Bush as well.DecrepiterJohnL said:
President Bush also did a great deal on debt relief, along with our most intellectual Prime Minister (FPT) Gordon Brown.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bush really was delighted that someone with an African-American roots had become POTUS, I remember a quote from Bush in circa 2002 which said everyday America allowed slavery was a day America wasn't true to itself.Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
He also went out of his way to ensure Obama was looked after.
Normal precedent was that you only get Secret Service protection once you get the nomination, which is around April time, but according to the FBI it was clear people were looking to assassinate Obama, so Bush authorised the Secret Service to protect Obama well before that.
Edit - Also at Trump's inauguration, after Trump gave his speech, Bushed turned around to Michelle Obama and said 'Well that was some weird shit.'
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bono-george-w-bush-world-aids-day-761747/0 -
And he wouldn't ask them to pay for it?MarqueeMark said:If Biden wanted to show a change of tone from Trump, how about a quick trip to Mexico?
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I think W is more of a fan of 'The Unforgettable Fire' and 'Achtung Baby'.kinabalu said:
Wonder if that fandom is reciprocal. Does W dig The Joshua Tree?TheScreamingEagles said:
Bono of U2 is a huge fan of W Bush as well.DecrepiterJohnL said:
President Bush also did a great deal on debt relief, along with our most intellectual Prime Minister (FPT) Gordon Brown.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bush really was delighted that someone with an African-American roots had become POTUS, I remember a quote from Bush in circa 2002 which said everyday America allowed slavery was a day America wasn't true to itself.Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.
He also went out of his way to ensure Obama was looked after.
Normal precedent was that you only get Secret Service protection once you get the nomination, which is around April time, but according to the FBI it was clear people were looking to assassinate Obama, so Bush authorised the Secret Service to protect Obama well before that.
Edit - Also at Trump's inauguration, after Trump gave his speech, Bushed turned around to Michelle Obama and said 'Well that was some weird shit.'
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bono-george-w-bush-world-aids-day-761747/1 -
Loving the national anthem makes you deplorable?kinabalu said:
"Love it". There's that 17% again. The basket of deplorables.HYUFD said:
No wonder you would rather support a fascist regime invading a free democracy than see people in a free democracy choosing to maintain connections to Britain.
I dislike the anthem, as an atheist republican it does nothing for me, but I respect those that like it.2 -
What is the Scottish figure for love/like v. hate/dislike as a matter of interest? The weasel word 'plurality' makes me suspicious.HYUFD said:0 -
Orders supplies of Scottish popcorn! 🍿Burgessian said:Salmond versus Sturgeon. It really isn't going away.
This from Mandy Rhodes of Holyrood Magazine who is by no means unsympathetic to SNP.
"I am heartily sick of hearing Sturgeon repeat the poor woman playbook that she is being punished for the behaviour of a man.
"I am offended by her batting off attempts at scrutiny over whether she lied or not with a reminder that this is about Salmond and not her.
"I am appalled by the claim that her chief of staff allegedly revealed the name of one of the complainants to someone who used to work for Salmond but at the time was no longer in government, never mind politics."
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UK 1st Dose Vaccinations - 4,062,501 up to and including 17 January 20213
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I think one of those letters is wrong.TheScreamingEagles said:
Walker.Theuniondivvie said:
Does W stand for WMD?Slackbladder said:
You could also say that the, frankly overblown hysteria about 'W' meant that a lot of people were desensitised to the warnings when it came to Trump.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.1 -
I think FOS is a pretty good tune.Carnyx said:
So? Could be Swing low, or whatever English rugger buggers sing in contrapuntion to Scots r. bs. belting out Flower of Scotland (not my favourite either).HYUFD said:
It's a meaningless survey.
But the Welsh national anthem (LOMF) is the best in these isles.3 -
How can anyone hate, "Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau" ?HYUFD said:0 -
Very soft spot for Blake myself.Anabobazina said:
AIUI there is no official national anthem of the UK, although GSTQ is sanctioned by usage.Carnyx said:
Rather obvious problem with that. The question didn't say WHICH the anthem is. Not something one can count on folk knowing. Jerusalem, for instance?HYUFD said:
I think Jerusalem should be the English national anthem – it's a rousing tune.
The Londonderry Air (Oh Danny Boy) at least used to be the NI national anthem, but the title might be problematic.0 -
Wow. That sounds worse than mine. I just got a big scare and a bite on the leg. And yes, I suppose getting another one quickly must have worked. We were not a dog owning family though.Tim_B said:
I was attacked by our family dog when I was a toddler. I almost lost one eye. My mother called my dad at work. He came home immediately, and took the dog to the vet and had him put down. He got another dog as soon as he could and I've had a dog ever since, - 60 years - almost entirely German Shepherds (Alsatians). I sympathize with your phobia. I was just lucky. Just another example of getting back on the bike, I guess.kinabalu said:
I can't remember if I've posted this before - and apols if I have - but I was savaged by an Alsatian when I was 3 and it's left me with a deep rooted anxiety around all dogs except the really poncy little ones. It's quite an inconvenient phobia. Gets in the way of quite a few things.Philip_Thompson said:
Most dogs are surprisingly good with babies/toddlers but the smaller ones are best for that reason I think.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's the reason he got rid of them, not so much for that, they still thought they were puppies.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Wait till your toddler daughter tries to kiss them, and they mistake it for an attack.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, my friend had a pair of Rottweilers, he had them since they were puppies, they were the most dumb dogs you'd ever meet, it was very hard to be afraid of dogs that used to bark at their own farts and get scared of their own reflections in the patio door.turbotubbs said:
Certainly they need to be under control. That need not mean muzzled, and need not mean on a lead at all times. However, like everything else, the bad owners let everyone else down.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
My friend said if there was ever a break in at his house, the burglars had to give the dogs some sausages and they'd help carry the TV out for them.
They'd crush babies/toddlers in excitement.
We got our little dog as a puppy when my youngest was three weeks old. The dog would growl if others tried to pick her up when she didn't want to be picked up but the toddler could be as rough as she wanted picking her up and she'd just sit there and play with her, unless she grabbed her tail.
I swear until my daughter could walk and talk her and puppy seemed to think act like they were twins. Very close to each other.0 -
Well, the good news is that it’s almost certainly going to change within the next decade...Philip_Thompson said:
Loving the national anthem makes you deplorable?kinabalu said:
"Love it". There's that 17% again. The basket of deplorables.HYUFD said:
No wonder you would rather support a fascist regime invading a free democracy than see people in a free democracy choosing to maintain connections to Britain.
I dislike the anthem, as an atheist republican it does nothing for me, but I respect those that like it.0 -
Just a terrible tune. I disrespect people who love it on the basis that they have terrible taste in music. I'm not a Republican, BTW.Philip_Thompson said:
Loving the national anthem makes you deplorable?kinabalu said:
"Love it". There's that 17% again. The basket of deplorables.HYUFD said:
No wonder you would rather support a fascist regime invading a free democracy than see people in a free democracy choosing to maintain connections to Britain.
I dislike the anthem, as an atheist republican it does nothing for me, but I respect those that like it.0 -
Is Trump troubled by any residual humanity?Richard_Tyndall said:
Michelle Obama's quote is that they (she and Bush) differ on policy but not humanity.Anabobazina said:
Could it be that Dubya is a patriot and a fundamentally decent man, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (I mean, it will come as no surprise that I don't approve of them!) – and that the odious Trump family are self-serving, petty morons with no shred of human decency?Richard_Tyndall said:
I read that the Obama family were really touched by the efforts that the Bush family made to make them feel welcome and make the handover as smooth as possible. I know Obama also said Bush did everything he could to make the power transition as smooth and professional as possible.Malmesbury said:
Compare and contrast with the Bush family showing the Obama family round.... complete with Obama kids using a sloped corridor as a slide, to smiles from all the adults.Theuniondivvie said:Not the least fault of the whole Trump shitshow is its overweening fcuking pettiness.
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1351175420356530177?s=20
I mean, that could be one hypothesis.0 -
Re: death rate vs vaccination rate the two are clearly linked. At the moment the UK has the 6th worst death rate in the world (excluding microstates) but a month from now, I suspect we will have dropped out of the top ten. And by the summer I would expect countries like France to have gone past us.
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What, all of them?Philip_Thompson said:
Loving the national anthem makes you deplorable?kinabalu said:
"Love it". There's that 17% again. The basket of deplorables.HYUFD said:
No wonder you would rather support a fascist regime invading a free democracy than see people in a free democracy choosing to maintain connections to Britain.
I dislike the anthem, as an atheist republican it does nothing for me, but I respect those that like it.0 -
New cases down, deaths & admissions up:
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It shouldn't be that many if you are truly six two.Luckyguy1983 said:
Not compared to kids today - I'm amazed how many people I see who are taller than me.kinabalu said:
In bare feet and not on tip toes?Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm 6.2. I suppose they're medium.Mexicanpete said:
You must be very big, if you consider a Red Setter to be "little".Luckyguy1983 said:
Red setters are horrid little dogs. They look nice though.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to ban dog ownership, they are a menace.
If not that, they need to be on a leash and muzzled at all times.
Richmond Park dog walker fined £602 over pet's 'relentless' fatal attack on deer
Police are urging dog owners to keep their pets on a tight lead after an increase in attacks during lockdown.
A man has been fined £602 after his dog fatally injured a deer during a "relentless" attack in London's Richmond Park.
Dramatic footage filmed by a cyclist shows Franck Hiribarne's red setter, Alfie, rushing at the small hind, jumping up at her and dragging her backwards, at around 9am on 1 October last year.
Despite the efforts of several passers-by to get between the animals, forming a human barrier to stop the attack, Alfie left the deer with deep wounds to her back and tail, which was partially detached.
The hind also suffered a broken leg after being hit by a car in her attempts to get away.
She was found a short while later, collapsed in the ferns, and had to be put down by a gamekeeper.
Mr Hiribarne, from southwest London, pleaded guilty at Wimbledon Magistrates' Court on 15 January to causing or permitting an animal he was in charge of to injure another animal in a royal park. He was fined £602.
The defendant reported the incident himself to the Royal Parks Office, while witnesses - some of whom described the attack as "relentless" - spoke to officers in a passing police car.
https://news.sky.com/story/richmond-park-dog-walker-fined-163602-over-pets-relentless-fatal-attack-on-deer-12191357
If so, that's unusual.0 -
Surely the President will not be going anywhere whilst the current travel restrictions are in force in so many countries, not just here. I would not be at all surprised if his trip in November is his first one which would make the UK a good bet unless he wants a social call immediately before that.0
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Especially when sung by John Redwood.Anabobazina said:
I think FOS is a pretty good tune.Carnyx said:
So? Could be Swing low, or whatever English rugger buggers sing in contrapuntion to Scots r. bs. belting out Flower of Scotland (not my favourite either).HYUFD said:
It's a meaningless survey.
But the Welsh national anthem (LOMF) is the best in these isles.
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I'm not sure there's much evidence for what the 'appropriate window' in that respect is though.Mexicanpete said:
The vaccination rollout has been a logistical triumph. It has (quite rightly) been a PR triumph too for the Government that organised it. Vaccination provision (quite justifiably ) is now the only metric worth contemplating. I can see the logic in vaccinating everyone with the first dose, and that is fine, but concerns have been raised that if the second dose misses the appropriate window, the process may have to be repeated from scratch. It is a balancing act. One dose for everyone, might be the best way to balance limited supply.Anabobazina said:Mexicanpete said:
It's not about the efficacy, its about the numbers vacinated before September. This is the politics of Covid now, and Johnson is winning the Covid PR battle hands down, a massive improvement from the Cummings era.ydoethur said:
By which he means, 'around 4 million people have received the FIRST DOSE of a vaccine.'HYUFD said:
Which is not at all the same thing.
So what if we all need two shots this time next year because the first, single dose only programme didn't give us the required resistance? The PR war against Covid is won, and it has been won by the Conservative Party. BBC lunchtime news was all about vaccine numbers, nothing about hospitalisations and deaths, those stats are so 2020.
Surely the strategy is based on the efficacy, as proposed by that famous Boris fan, erm, Tony Blair?
There's a 12-week gap as this maximises protection across the nation.
Do you oppose that strategy? If so, why?
I think that 12 weeks was selected as antibody levels tend to tail off significantly after that, but I think the concern is more over what might happen should you get infected before the second shot, rather than that the booster won't work.1
