With 98% of the votes counted the Dems looks set to gain both Georgia US Senate seats – politicalbet

solarflare said:

Every time I think our politics is bad it's comforting to know we're nowhere on the batshit spectrum compared to the USA.

And those who compare Boris to Trump are ridiculous

Trump is scary and where this ends goodness knows

Sky have stopped coverage of his rantings and as far as I know the BBC did not show it

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

MrEd said:

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

Benpointer said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Philip_Thompson said:

contrarian said:

Alistair said:

I see we are back with the "Trump who got 2 of the 3 lowest Republican votes shares this millennium" is wildly popular line of thinking.

Wow, another leftist promising conservatives they still have a chance if only they select a candidate the left approves of.

I guess we can expect a great deal of this over the next two years.

Well I'm a right winger who thinks Ronald Reagan was America's best postwar POTUS but I find Trump revolting and am glad the Democrats won.

Maybe right wingers finding Trump repellant should be taken seriously? Just an idea.

You fibber, you are the most Trumpian poster on here. I guess you hope that saying you are anti-Trump makes you sound a little more human. Trump is a far right populist and so are you. If you were an American you would be wearing the hat and attending all his rallies and claiming the election was a fraud. You never have any real evidence for your stated views just right wing hunches, just like him. You are probably one of Donald Trump's love children

Not by a long chalk is @Philip_Thompson 'the most Trumpian poster in here'.

I disagree with what PT says but you need to look elsewhere for PB Trump supporters. It isn't hard.

I have a list of PBers who were either overtly or secretly rooting for Trump to beat Biden.

There are 12 names on it. The Dirty Dozen.

I'm betting it includes those so secret, they have continuously said they wouldn't have voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020.... But clearly, they didn't mean it.

Bet you are on the list @MarqueeMark

It's Sub Judice for obvious reasons. Although I can probably risk disclosing that you are one of those named. Can't see you suing.

I know I'm not on it, because I have consistently said on here since 2016 there's no way I could have voted for Trump.

Or either of his opponents.

Hillary was a terrible candidate. Dire.Thankfully the title of first woment President wasn't sullied by having her attached to that bit of history.

And "Not being Trump" wouldn't have been enough reason for me to vote for Biden.

Blimey actually volunteering to wrap yourself round @kinabalu's little finger.

Funny to see.

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346823072612036608?s=20

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346841341704155136?s=20

It's nice that the Trump children all seem so close with their father that they stump for him politically, but do they not have their own lives and interests? The one benefit to him not being president should be they no longer have to get involved in politics - it's not like they did much before.

Trumspksys are a family of grifters. The move from one con to the next, burning turf as they go then finding new turf to trash. Their "interests" are milking the suckers and living on the proceeds ad infinitum.

Anyone who ever watched the US version of "The Apprentice" could see for themselves what a total wastes of space is young Don.

Indeed, only reason why folks thought Ivanka might NOT be a total schmuck (wrong!) was because in sheer brains she was so clearly light-years superior to her dad and sibling.

Like the wise man (not Rudi) once said, "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed is king."

rkrkrk said:

I'm thinking we are likely to go over 2,000 deaths/day this month. Others agree?

Yes - just the majority won't be from covid. (Not conspiracy, just that lots of people die every die NOT from Covid).

kle4 said:

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346823072612036608?s=20

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346841341704155136?s=20

It's nice that the Trump children all seem so close with their father that they stump for him politically, but do they not have their own lives and interests? The one benefit to him not being president should be they no longer have to get involved in politics - it's not like they did much before.

They liked to pose with their trophy big game kills....

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/04/donald-trump-jr-trophy-hunting-auction-nevada-aoe

Carnyx said:

Omnium said:

Jonathan said:

Donald has more flags than Boris, Nicola and Kier combined.

Fucking golf!

And the bigliest Saltire (on a pole at Turnberry that must be marked as a hazard on the Prestwick airport flight charts).

Actually the best thing that could be done with the Donald is just let him play golf in Scotland. I did wonder slightly when his intention of a flight to Scotland might have him requesting diplomatic asylum on arrival.

I guess Sturgeon is both flattered and pissed off with his actions.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

rcs1000 said:

not_on_fire said:

Malmesbury said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I was trying to compile this stat earlier.

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1346834407626334209

Split themselves into more states. The sky is the limit, or rather how small the stars will be in the flag

{Texas has entered the chat}

Stand by for the great states of East and West Dakota

(Shouldn't it be North East Dakota and North West Dakota... and ditto for the South)

IF England can have West Bromwich West, then surely America can have West West Virginia!

(Are you paying attention, TSE???)

Green Street Green Road!

The way things are at the moment West Bromwich West are the better footy side in the West Bromwich area.

The press is the ‘enemy of the people’. Good grief. Out and out fascism.

Trump howling at the moon

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

MrEd said:

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

Benpointer said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Philip_Thompson said:

contrarian said:

Alistair said:

I see we are back with the "Trump who got 2 of the 3 lowest Republican votes shares this millennium" is wildly popular line of thinking.

Wow, another leftist promising conservatives they still have a chance if only they select a candidate the left approves of.

I guess we can expect a great deal of this over the next two years.

Well I'm a right winger who thinks Ronald Reagan was America's best postwar POTUS but I find Trump revolting and am glad the Democrats won.

Maybe right wingers finding Trump repellant should be taken seriously? Just an idea.

You fibber, you are the most Trumpian poster on here. I guess you hope that saying you are anti-Trump makes you sound a little more human. Trump is a far right populist and so are you. If you were an American you would be wearing the hat and attending all his rallies and claiming the election was a fraud. You never have any real evidence for your stated views just right wing hunches, just like him. You are probably one of Donald Trump's love children

Not by a long chalk is @Philip_Thompson 'the most Trumpian poster in here'.

I disagree with what PT says but you need to look elsewhere for PB Trump supporters. It isn't hard.

I have a list of PBers who were either overtly or secretly rooting for Trump to beat Biden.

There are 12 names on it. The Dirty Dozen.

I'm betting it includes those so secret, they have continuously said they wouldn't have voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020.... But clearly, they didn't mean it.

Bet you are on the list @MarqueeMark

It's Sub Judice for obvious reasons. Although I can probably risk disclosing that you are one of those named. Can't see you suing.

I know I'm not on it, because I have consistently said on here since 2016 there's no way I could have voted for Trump.

Or either of his opponents.

Hillary was a terrible candidate. Dire.Thankfully the title of first woment President wasn't sullied by having her attached to that bit of history.

And "Not being Trump" wouldn't have been enough reason for me to vote for Biden.

All fine. But just to be clear. My list is not of posters who would have voted for Trump. The entry qualification to get on it was preferring him to win the election (or Biden to lose it).

So, telly on, morning of 4/11, what was the hope, whether spoken or unspoken? - this was the question I asked myself of each and every active poster on here, all 300 and odd of them. Took me quite some time as you can imagine. Several hours.

Just a bit of fun though.

turbotubbs said:

rkrkrk said:

I'm thinking we are likely to go over 2,000 deaths/day this month. Others agree?

Yes - just the majority won't be from covid. (Not conspiracy, just that lots of people die every die NOT from Covid).

Currently -

Trump's reaction to losing the election is a bit like some pro-Europeans reaction to losing the 2016 Referendum.

If he'd put as much effort into actually winning the election as he has put into overturning it then he might have actually won the election in the first place.

OldKingCole said:

Quote from Giuliani at the Trumps rally:
"I'm willing to stake my reputation on the fact that there is election fraud:"

Playing for low stakes, then.

Philip_Thompson said:

Trump's reaction to losing the election is a bit like some pro-Europeans reaction to losing the 2016 Referendum.

If he'd put as much effort into actually winning the election as he has put into overturning it then he might have actually won the election in the first place.

This is actually an excellent point.

ping said:

contrarian said:

ping said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

https://twitter.com/KattyKay_/status/1346859890204176386

“Does that still matter in this country?”

He’s hit the nail on the head there.

Trumpism is a kind of post-religious cult.

He really didn't

The American system has given to their citizens, by common consent even on here, an electoral system that to be called third world is a massive insult to the third world.

The courts in almost every case would not let Trump even set out the weak evidence he did have.

Why would Americans have any confidence in any of their institutions now?

The point was about the god thing.

The decline in religiousity in the US was a necessary prerequisite for the success of trumpism. Discuss.

Not really given Evangelicals voted in droves for Trump

Philip_Thompson said:

kinabalu said:

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/redhistorian/status/1346855977669308422

Exactly. He dropped her red lines and agreed a much easier deal to do. A piece of cake deal in fact. Then sold it as an against-the-odds triumph of hardball and negotiating panache. Pulled this trick twice. In 2019 with the WA. Last month with the FTA. The first won him an election and the power to do the 2nd. The gullibility of people is disappointing but, still, you have to say - what a player.

May had the wrong red line. Boris fixed it.

May's priority was no distinction between England and GB, despite the fact that Stormont exists.

Boris's priority was for GB to be free from Europe - and that Stormont must control whether NI continues under its arrangements.

If it was so "easy" to negotiate Stormont being able to unilaterally end NI's special arrangements then why didn't May negotiate that? Throughout May's tenure the EU were explicit there must never be a unilateral end to the backstop as a backstop with a way out is not a backstop in their eyes. That changed when Boris negotiated with them.

As I said, the gullibility of people - as regards how hard this was to do - is disappointing.

But on one point you are quite right. Johnson's Brexit is more faithful to pure Leave.

Floater said:

Trump howling at the moon

You need to be clearer if that is literally the case or not.

Jonathan said:

The press is the ‘enemy of the people’. Good grief. Out and out fascism.

It's the way he tends to stride up and down slowly and carefully, with his black leather gloves while saying this sort of thing, that conveys that sense of menace to the most ardent section of his supporters.

CNN - Biden nominates Merrick Garland as AG

WhisperingOracle said:

Jonathan said:

The press is the ‘enemy of the people’. Good grief. Out and out fascism.

It's the way he tends to stride up and down slowly and carefully, with his black leather gloves while saying this sort of thing, that conveys that sense of menace to the most ardent section of his supporters.

It's fascism alright. A warning not from history but from rolling news in the here and now.

MarqueeMark said:

Pulpstar said:

contrarian said:

Jonathan said:

This Trump March/rally is seriously fucked up. Sorry about language, but it’s appropriate. Never seen anything like it. 🥲America.

I repeat: An exit poll from Georgia for CNN showed 75% of repubs think the Presidential election was stolen. Those are voters who turned up for the run=offs. Among those who stayed away it is probably higher.

Many millions of Americans think they have an illegitimate government and a sub third world electoral system.

That's almost entirely Trump's work, he's salted the earth for the GOP.

The sub-thrd world electoral system W-A-Y predates Trump. 2000 and hanging chads, anyone?

Shithole country ... ?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346865674988232704

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

MrEd said:

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

Benpointer said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Philip_Thompson said:

contrarian said:

Alistair said:

I see we are back with the "Trump who got 2 of the 3 lowest Republican votes shares this millennium" is wildly popular line of thinking.

Wow, another leftist promising conservatives they still have a chance if only they select a candidate the left approves of.

I guess we can expect a great deal of this over the next two years.

Well I'm a right winger who thinks Ronald Reagan was America's best postwar POTUS but I find Trump revolting and am glad the Democrats won.

Maybe right wingers finding Trump repellant should be taken seriously? Just an idea.

You fibber, you are the most Trumpian poster on here. I guess you hope that saying you are anti-Trump makes you sound a little more human. Trump is a far right populist and so are you. If you were an American you would be wearing the hat and attending all his rallies and claiming the election was a fraud. You never have any real evidence for your stated views just right wing hunches, just like him. You are probably one of Donald Trump's love children

Not by a long chalk is @Philip_Thompson 'the most Trumpian poster in here'.

I disagree with what PT says but you need to look elsewhere for PB Trump supporters. It isn't hard.

I have a list of PBers who were either overtly or secretly rooting for Trump to beat Biden.

There are 12 names on it. The Dirty Dozen.

I'm betting it includes those so secret, they have continuously said they wouldn't have voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020.... But clearly, they didn't mean it.

Bet you are on the list @MarqueeMark

It's Sub Judice for obvious reasons. Although I can probably risk disclosing that you are one of those named. Can't see you suing.

I know I'm not on it, because I have consistently said on here since 2016 there's no way I could have voted for Trump.

Or either of his opponents.

Hillary was a terrible candidate. Dire.Thankfully the title of first woment President wasn't sullied by having her attached to that bit of history.

And "Not being Trump" wouldn't have been enough reason for me to vote for Biden.

All fine. But just to be clear. My list is not of posters who would have voted for Trump. The entry qualification to get on it was preferring him to win the election (or Biden to lose it).

So, telly on, morning of 4/11, what was the hope, whether spoken or unspoken? - this was the question I asked myself of each and every active poster on here, all 300 and odd of them. Took me quite some time as you can imagine. Several hours.

Just a bit of fun though.

I called the election for Biden on here at 12.01 am Wednesday. It was obvious the postals would taken him over the limit in the handful of states in play. (I did say that Trump would win Alaska, as he did by 10%, against those rather more excitable types who thought it was in play. Ditto Texas.)

I just think he was a very weak candidate. He handled himself with grace as Trump threw an oh-so-predictable tantrum in the confectionary aisle, when the voters took away his sweeties. But Lord, is Biden uninspiring.

Ok, I'll take you off it.

But I need a replacement to maintain the Dirty Dozen logo.

anothernick said:

rkrkrk said:

I'm thinking we are likely to go over 2,000 deaths/day this month. Others agree?

What is certain is that we will exceed the total civilian death toll of all wars in the 20th century, which is around 80,000.

This national trauma will take many years to overcome, not least because unlike the major wars of the last century, the UK is going to be one of the main losers in both deaths and economic damage.

There were around 200 million civilian deaths in wars in the twentieth century.

Or did you mean just on the UK mainland?

kinabalu said:

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

MrEd said:

MarqueeMark said:

kinabalu said:

Benpointer said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Philip_Thompson said:

contrarian said:

Alistair said:

I see we are back with the "Trump who got 2 of the 3 lowest Republican votes shares this millennium" is wildly popular line of thinking.

Wow, another leftist promising conservatives they still have a chance if only they select a candidate the left approves of.

I guess we can expect a great deal of this over the next two years.

Well I'm a right winger who thinks Ronald Reagan was America's best postwar POTUS but I find Trump revolting and am glad the Democrats won.

Maybe right wingers finding Trump repellant should be taken seriously? Just an idea.

You fibber, you are the most Trumpian poster on here. I guess you hope that saying you are anti-Trump makes you sound a little more human. Trump is a far right populist and so are you. If you were an American you would be wearing the hat and attending all his rallies and claiming the election was a fraud. You never have any real evidence for your stated views just right wing hunches, just like him. You are probably one of Donald Trump's love children

Not by a long chalk is @Philip_Thompson 'the most Trumpian poster in here'.

I disagree with what PT says but you need to look elsewhere for PB Trump supporters. It isn't hard.

I have a list of PBers who were either overtly or secretly rooting for Trump to beat Biden.

There are 12 names on it. The Dirty Dozen.

I'm betting it includes those so secret, they have continuously said they wouldn't have voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020.... But clearly, they didn't mean it.

Bet you are on the list @MarqueeMark

It's Sub Judice for obvious reasons. Although I can probably risk disclosing that you are one of those named. Can't see you suing.

I know I'm not on it, because I have consistently said on here since 2016 there's no way I could have voted for Trump.

Or either of his opponents.

Hillary was a terrible candidate. Dire.Thankfully the title of first woment President wasn't sullied by having her attached to that bit of history.

And "Not being Trump" wouldn't have been enough reason for me to vote for Biden.

All fine. But just to be clear. My list is not of posters who would have voted for Trump. The entry qualification to get on it was preferring him to win the election (or Biden to lose it).

So, telly on, morning of 4/11, what was the hope, whether spoken or unspoken? - this was the question I asked myself of each and every active poster on here, all 300 and odd of them. Took me quite some time as you can imagine. Several hours.

Just a bit of fun though.

Not being Trump is one of the chief attributes of Biden.

He isn't JFK or Lincoln. He's just... normal, really. For an American politician.

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1346857997243469824

An English Parliament would be a help, so England is finally recognised as an equal partner within the UK alongside Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland which already have their own Parliaments and Assembly as well as still electing MPs to Westminster

England has its de facto parliament , Westminster.