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There used to be just such an anomaly in Holborn, near the City. Ely Place. The Mitre tavern (a brilliant old pub) was technically an enclave of Cambridgeshire (because it was owned by the Bishop of Ely) so it had more relaxed closing times than London pubs, for a while. People used to flock there for an extra hour of ale.Anabobazina said:
That's very true – there are indeed a few border towns / villages where the frontier runs through the middle of the centre.LadyG said:
Fair enough. My point is that people are very used to drinking when they like now, since the laws were liberalised. If chucking out time is 10 that means last orders will be 9.30. It's going to be distinctly odd and not welcomed.Anabobazina said:
Well the final hour now (in England) will be 9-10pm, but perhaps I am accusing you unfairly. I do recognise that you are generally expert on the sector.LadyG said:
Er, it will be the final hour now, won't it? 10-11. That is my point.Anabobazina said:LadyG said:
It's not trivial at all. The busy final hour from ten to eleven can mean profit or loss for a pub or restaurant. Welsh pubs are more likely to survive the winter.FrancisUrquhart said:
This stuff is just pathetic signalling that devolved regions has some powers. It does nothing to really change public health outcomes.Andy_JS said:Apparently the cut-off time in Wales and Northern Ireland is going to be 11pm, not 10pm.
Once again IT'S NOT A FINAL HOUR – the laws preventing pubs opening beyond 11pm were removed years ago. Fifteen years ago.
Why do PBers repeat this fiction that pubs have to close at 11pm?
https://life.spectator.co.uk/articles/longer-opening-hours-were-a-complete-success-how-did-the-experts-get-it-so-wrong/
I'm not a stranger to pubs, I am aware the licensing laws were liberalised many years ago.
It comes from frustration with PBers general knowledge about pubs – I recall several threadettes passim based on the entirely false premise that pubs normally close at 11pm (perhaps these PBers all live in the sticks, or never actually attend pubs at all?)
Meanwhile over in Wales the publicans have an extra final hour of business to try and make a profit. That's gonna annoy English publicans.
It will also be interesting to see how this effects pubs on the Anglo-Welsh border. There will be people running across the River Wye at Tintern to get an extra hour of boozing.3 -
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The Lib Dems are looking to be the opposition to the Westminster consensus - good on them0
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I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)MaxPB said:
They aren't island nations.NerysHughes said:
So all the other countries in Europe having a second wave?MaxPB said:
The government's incompetence has led to the second wave. Rubbish quarantine policy, rubbish isolation policy and halting of testing expansion in July is why wer are where we are. All of those are domestic issues. The second wave is on Boris and and the c***.LadyG said:
A second wave was always likely to sweep away your optimism. Sadly. Respiratory viruses have second waves.MaxPB said:
Boris just killed it.CorrectHorseBattery said:Predictions of a V-shape recovery looking unlikely
Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:
July 7.1%
August 7.2%
September 2.1%
Final Q -1.3%
Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%
New projections
July 6.6% (actual)
August 7.7%
September 0.9%
Final Q -0.8%
Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%
Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭
My initial predictions were for a GDP loss of 10-15% over the year. 20% if the health service went into meltdown.
10% looks about right, at the mo. But we may bounce back vigorously next year.
Also they made the same mistakes and are just as incompetent. France especially so.1 -
Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.Anabobazina said:
I'd recommend Laithwaites – absolutely superb service and algorithms that work.Casino_Royale said:I'm basically going to subscribe to Tesco Wine Club and spend the next six months getting battered.
More impressively, the saleswomen actually know about wine.0 -
No, Britain keeping open the airports, with nice direct flights from Wuhan, until about June, was even stupider.rcs1000 said:
I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)MaxPB said:
They aren't island nations.NerysHughes said:
So all the other countries in Europe having a second wave?MaxPB said:
The government's incompetence has led to the second wave. Rubbish quarantine policy, rubbish isolation policy and halting of testing expansion in July is why wer are where we are. All of those are domestic issues. The second wave is on Boris and and the c***.LadyG said:
A second wave was always likely to sweep away your optimism. Sadly. Respiratory viruses have second waves.MaxPB said:
Boris just killed it.CorrectHorseBattery said:Predictions of a V-shape recovery looking unlikely
Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:
July 7.1%
August 7.2%
September 2.1%
Final Q -1.3%
Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%
New projections
July 6.6% (actual)
August 7.7%
September 0.9%
Final Q -0.8%
Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%
Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭
My initial predictions were for a GDP loss of 10-15% over the year. 20% if the health service went into meltdown.
10% looks about right, at the mo. But we may bounce back vigorously next year.
Also they made the same mistakes and are just as incompetent. France especially so.1 -
The situation is worse in Scotland. The positivity rate is 7.6% That's why they have more severe rules, because they have lost more control.
Nicola Sturgeon has lost control more than Boris Johnson. There's incompetence and then there's that.0 -
Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html
If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.2 -
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
No, I think our quarantine and travel policies are worse, on that note, did you see my email?rcs1000 said:
I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)MaxPB said:
They aren't island nations.NerysHughes said:
So all the other countries in Europe having a second wave?MaxPB said:
The government's incompetence has led to the second wave. Rubbish quarantine policy, rubbish isolation policy and halting of testing expansion in July is why wer are where we are. All of those are domestic issues. The second wave is on Boris and and the c***.LadyG said:
A second wave was always likely to sweep away your optimism. Sadly. Respiratory viruses have second waves.MaxPB said:
Boris just killed it.CorrectHorseBattery said:Predictions of a V-shape recovery looking unlikely
Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:
July 7.1%
August 7.2%
September 2.1%
Final Q -1.3%
Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%
New projections
July 6.6% (actual)
August 7.7%
September 0.9%
Final Q -0.8%
Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%
Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭
My initial predictions were for a GDP loss of 10-15% over the year. 20% if the health service went into meltdown.
10% looks about right, at the mo. But we may bounce back vigorously next year.
Also they made the same mistakes and are just as incompetent. France especially so.0 -
Actually I am not sure that your confidence was well placed. The current Health regulations include this definition:DavidL said:
I admire your confidence. No doubt the regulations will be published sometime. Although publishing laws before they come into force is so last year, really.No_Offence_Alan said:
To answer your questions:DavidL said:
What is an extended household? Can I go to the house of my daughter and her partner? Can my wife still take her mum to church and help her in with anything she buys whilst out?Carnyx said:
They're not: [edit]: all banned I mean. Quite a few exceptions.HYUFD said:
I cannot imagine banning all visits to other households going down too well with ScotsScott_xP said:
https://twitter.com/theSNP/status/1308400564296978432
1) A household, plus one person (or a single parent and their children) living alone;
2) No, assuming your wife lives with you - you do not live alone;
3) Yes, if your mother-in-law lives alone.
“extended household” means two households—
(a)which have chosen to be treated as a single household, and
(b)do not already form part of another extended household,"
So if my daughter and partner choose to be treated as a single household with us (lord knows how, maybe an affidavit?) then would be a single household and they could come here and vice versa.0 -
Thanks for coming through, I always knew you would. Interesting stuff as always from you, Max.MaxPB said:
Boris just killed it.CorrectHorseBattery said:Predictions of a V-shape recovery looking unlikely
Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:
July 7.1%
August 7.2%
September 2.1%
Final Q -1.3%
Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%
New projections
July 6.6% (actual)
August 7.7%
September 0.9%
Final Q -0.8%
Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%
Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭0 -
'Extended household' has been in usage for quite a long time. You're just being mischievous - you're too intellogent to be otherwise.DavidL said:
What is an extended household? Can I go to the house of my daughter and her partner? Can my wife still take her mum to church and help her in with anything she buys whilst out?Carnyx said:
They're not: [edit]: all banned I mean. Quite a few exceptions.HYUFD said:
I cannot imagine banning all visits to other households going down too well with ScotsScott_xP said:
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I imagine the destruction of wealth for workers caused by government printing hasn't helped matters and has caused a reduction in the fertility rate.rcs1000 said:
The Japanese government spends next to nothing on supporting the national debt as (1) half all JGBs are owned by the BOJ (which remits interest payments back to the government), and (2) 10 year JGB yields at 0.4%. In other words, the net debt service of the Japanese government is lower than in the UK.DAlexander said:
I've never heard of the measure "output per hour worked" before if I'm honest. I'm not 100% sure what it is.rcs1000 said:
Japan has the best growth in output per hour worked in the developed world over the past decade.DAlexander said:
Not sure a 30 year slow grinding reduction in the quality of life is something to aim for, especially for a bad case of the sniffles.rcs1000 said:
And just like Japan, all the debt will be owed to the Central Bank.LadyG said:
European governments are going to end up with debts like Japan. ~200% of GDPCyclefree said:This is what the French government is doing.
“Victor Mallet in Paris JUNE 8 2020
France’s “temporary unemployment” scheme to avert mass bankruptcies and lay-offs as a result of the coronavirus crisis will be extended, and is now expected to last up to two years, the country’s labour minister said.
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Muriel Pénicaud, the labour minister, said that at the end of April some 8.6m employees were benefiting from the French scheme, under which the state pays subsidies to companies to fund the salaries of those prevented from working.
“We are going to put in place a long-term partial-activity scheme,” Ms Pénicaud told Franceinfo radio, “through which employees could have fewer working hours and be partly supported by the state.” The scheme “is likely to last a year or two,” she added.
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Ms Pénicaud did not say what share of wages the French government would continue to pay — currently 84-100 per cent of net salary for the lower paid — but that this was under discussion with employers and trade unions. She also said the government would make 50,000 inspections before the end of the summer to detect and punish fraudulent use of the scheme.
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“I think it makes sense even if the fiscal cost is going to be huge,” said Gilles Moec, Axa chief economist.
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See here for rest of article - https://www.ft.com/content/63b33ede-4463-4342-845a-26cf85a91d3d
Two years.
The problem they have is that they have a diminishing number of people of working age looking after an ever greater number of retirees.
That's something that Italy already struggles with, and that much of the EU will suffer from over the next few decades.
But maybe not too surprising as the young workers there are flogging themselves to death and have no time for children of their own to support both the large number of old people and the national debt there.
Japan's problem is simple:
- low total fertility rate
- high life expectancy
That combination is something that pretty much all developed world governments have to deal with.0 -
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
Police not happy. Use of military "Not needed or asked for."
Hands up who wants to guard a power station or bust someone visiting their elderly parents?0 -
Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
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Depends on the nature of testing. Different testing regime in Scotland, possibly more focussed on risk areas.LostPassword said:The situation is worse in Scotland. The positivity rate is 7.6% That's why they have more severe rules, because they have lost more control.
Nicola Sturgeon has lost control more than Boris Johnson. There's incompetence and then there's that.0 -
Incredible that simply providing a factual record of what happened in the past is now labelled "rewriting history". As a NT member I am really happy that they've done this work. I always like to know as much as possible about the history of the places we visit, although obviously I am mostly there for the cream teas.FrancisUrquhart said:Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html
If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.1 -
What happened to the plan to use this lot?dixiedean said:Police not happy. Use of military "Not needed or asked for."
Hands up who wants to guard a power station or bust someone visiting their elderly parents?
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https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government0 -
Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government3 -
Republicans are probably going to confirm someone before the election, and wait for the Democrats to talk about stuffing the court to motivate the evangelical voters out.FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
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By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet eitherNo_Offence_Alan said:
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yesisam said:
Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government0 -
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-542541410 -
Spin spin sugar xCorrectHorseBattery said:
Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yesisam said:
Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government2 -
I think they found there was no funding.FrancisUrquhart said:
What happened to the plan to use this lot?dixiedean said:Police not happy. Use of military "Not needed or asked for."
Hands up who wants to guard a power station or bust someone visiting their elderly parents?
None whatsoever.0 -
[NARRATOR]CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!
In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...2 -
I literally said that in the original post but okisam said:
Spin spin sugar xCorrectHorseBattery said:
Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yesisam said:
Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government0 -
See my comment at 3.35. I think that my "extended household" will have to be with my mother in law who needs a fair bit of help so that will exclude us from having another extended household with my daughter. But at least my wife can still help her mum whose acuity has sharply declined during lockdown.Carnyx said:
'Extended household' has been in usage for quite a long time. You're just being mischievous - you're too intellogent to be otherwise.DavidL said:
What is an extended household? Can I go to the house of my daughter and her partner? Can my wife still take her mum to church and help her in with anything she buys whilst out?Carnyx said:
They're not: [edit]: all banned I mean. Quite a few exceptions.HYUFD said:
I cannot imagine banning all visits to other households going down too well with ScotsScott_xP said:
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Oh mate.0
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The Japanese birth rate has been falling since the early 1970s so I am doubtful that QE has much to do with it.DAlexander said:
I imagine the destruction of wealth for workers caused by government printing hasn't helped matters and has caused a reduction in the fertility rate.rcs1000 said:
The Japanese government spends next to nothing on supporting the national debt as (1) half all JGBs are owned by the BOJ (which remits interest payments back to the government), and (2) 10 year JGB yields at 0.4%. In other words, the net debt service of the Japanese government is lower than in the UK.DAlexander said:
I've never heard of the measure "output per hour worked" before if I'm honest. I'm not 100% sure what it is.rcs1000 said:
Japan has the best growth in output per hour worked in the developed world over the past decade.DAlexander said:
Not sure a 30 year slow grinding reduction in the quality of life is something to aim for, especially for a bad case of the sniffles.rcs1000 said:
And just like Japan, all the debt will be owed to the Central Bank.LadyG said:
European governments are going to end up with debts like Japan. ~200% of GDPCyclefree said:This is what the French government is doing.
“Victor Mallet in Paris JUNE 8 2020
France’s “temporary unemployment” scheme to avert mass bankruptcies and lay-offs as a result of the coronavirus crisis will be extended, and is now expected to last up to two years, the country’s labour minister said.
....................
Muriel Pénicaud, the labour minister, said that at the end of April some 8.6m employees were benefiting from the French scheme, under which the state pays subsidies to companies to fund the salaries of those prevented from working.
“We are going to put in place a long-term partial-activity scheme,” Ms Pénicaud told Franceinfo radio, “through which employees could have fewer working hours and be partly supported by the state.” The scheme “is likely to last a year or two,” she added.
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Ms Pénicaud did not say what share of wages the French government would continue to pay — currently 84-100 per cent of net salary for the lower paid — but that this was under discussion with employers and trade unions. She also said the government would make 50,000 inspections before the end of the summer to detect and punish fraudulent use of the scheme.
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“I think it makes sense even if the fiscal cost is going to be huge,” said Gilles Moec, Axa chief economist.
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See here for rest of article - https://www.ft.com/content/63b33ede-4463-4342-845a-26cf85a91d3d
Two years.
The problem they have is that they have a diminishing number of people of working age looking after an ever greater number of retirees.
That's something that Italy already struggles with, and that much of the EU will suffer from over the next few decades.
But maybe not too surprising as the young workers there are flogging themselves to death and have no time for children of their own to support both the large number of old people and the national debt there.
Japan's problem is simple:
- low total fertility rate
- high life expectancy
That combination is something that pretty much all developed world governments have to deal with.0 -
No need for GOP Never-Trumpers to head to the polls now.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-542541410 -
The Republicans however have won the national popular vote in 8 out of 13 of the last House of Representatives elections over that same timeframeTheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-542541410 -
The problem is that it's going up - that's the sign of loss of control that we've seen elsewhere and before.Carnyx said:
Depends on the nature of testing. Different testing regime in Scotland, possibly more focussed on risk areas.LostPassword said:The situation is worse in Scotland. The positivity rate is 7.6% That's why they have more severe rules, because they have lost more control.
Nicola Sturgeon has lost control more than Boris Johnson. There's incompetence and then there's that.
It was 3.6% last Wednesday.0 -
One of the more amusing cases I came across recently was the renaming of the David Hume Tower for some perceived inability to anticipate 20th century sensitivities by Edinburgh University. It is now called 40 George Square. That would be the Square named after George III who furiously opposed the abolition of the slave trade. Progress, its a wonderful thing.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Incredible that simply providing a factual record of what happened in the past is now labelled "rewriting history". As a NT member I am really happy that they've done this work. I always like to know as much as possible about the history of the places we visit, although obviously I am mostly there for the cream teas.FrancisUrquhart said:Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html
If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.1 -
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Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrowHYUFD said:
By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet eitherNo_Offence_Alan said:
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
Boris will study the Scottish polls over the next week or two, if the SNP poll rating declines he will stick to his gunsIanB2 said:
Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrowHYUFD said:
By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet eitherNo_Offence_Alan said:
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
Mostly in midterm years which have far lower turnoutHYUFD said:
The Republicans however have won the national popular vote in 8 out of 13 of the last House of Representatives elections over that same timeframeTheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-542541410 -
No. Sturgeon is playing a very clear game.solarflare said:
I assume you take the same view of the Welsh and NI devolved administrations, each of which have also devised their own individual responses.Casino_Royale said:
As long as it's different to what England is doing her base will lap it up.DavidL said:
Plus its dark here very early already, and that's before the clocks go back. I think Nicola is going to have a very hard time enforcing this, its going to be seriously unpopular.LadyG said:
This rule is particularly tough, given the different Scots climate. Down south it is often mild enough to mingle outside of an evening.DavidL said:
My daughter was going to be staying with a friend in Edinburgh this weekend. She really needs social contact right now.FrancisUrquhart said:
Two weeks and Boris will be back to announce this as a new restriction for England.Scott_xP said:
And its my birthday next week. Hey ho.
In a hard Scottish winter you generally need to be indoors.2 -
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Uhh what about the virus?HYUFD said:
Boris will study the Scottish polls over the next week or two, if the SNP poll rating declines he will stick to his gunsIanB2 said:
Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrowHYUFD said:
By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet eitherNo_Offence_Alan said:
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
The all-caps, double-spaced presentation of that tweet seems almost deliberately designed to infuriate the reader into not bothering to read all of it.HYUFD said:0 -
Who elected Andrew Bailey?Scott_xP said:0 -
Trump is starting to look like he is in trouble in Georgia. 3 of the last 4 polls have shown Biden ahead or tied. It's certainly a more likely candidate to flip than Minnesota which seems to get so much attention on here.
Texas also looking close with Trump only 2%, though I expect him to hold there.1 -
The virus is rubbish, it has never won an 80 seat majority, it is scared of Boris Johnson.Gallowgate said:
Uhh what about the virus?HYUFD said:
Boris will study the Scottish polls over the next week or two, if the SNP poll rating declines he will stick to his gunsIanB2 said:
Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrowHYUFD said:
By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet eitherNo_Offence_Alan said:
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?4 -
If you add 20 on to the Labour score they are 17 points ahead!CorrectHorseBattery said:
Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yesisam said:
Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government3 -
One of my favourite pubs in London.LadyG said:
There used to be just such an anomaly in Holborn, near the City. Ely Place. The Mitre tavern (a brilliant old pub) was technically an enclave of Cambridgeshire (because it was owned by the Bishop of Ely) so it had more relaxed closing times than London pubs, for a while. People used to flock there for an extra hour of ale.Anabobazina said:
That's very true – there are indeed a few border towns / villages where the frontier runs through the middle of the centre.LadyG said:
Fair enough. My point is that people are very used to drinking when they like now, since the laws were liberalised. If chucking out time is 10 that means last orders will be 9.30. It's going to be distinctly odd and not welcomed.Anabobazina said:
Well the final hour now (in England) will be 9-10pm, but perhaps I am accusing you unfairly. I do recognise that you are generally expert on the sector.LadyG said:
Er, it will be the final hour now, won't it? 10-11. That is my point.Anabobazina said:LadyG said:
It's not trivial at all. The busy final hour from ten to eleven can mean profit or loss for a pub or restaurant. Welsh pubs are more likely to survive the winter.FrancisUrquhart said:
This stuff is just pathetic signalling that devolved regions has some powers. It does nothing to really change public health outcomes.Andy_JS said:Apparently the cut-off time in Wales and Northern Ireland is going to be 11pm, not 10pm.
Once again IT'S NOT A FINAL HOUR – the laws preventing pubs opening beyond 11pm were removed years ago. Fifteen years ago.
Why do PBers repeat this fiction that pubs have to close at 11pm?
https://life.spectator.co.uk/articles/longer-opening-hours-were-a-complete-success-how-did-the-experts-get-it-so-wrong/
I'm not a stranger to pubs, I am aware the licensing laws were liberalised many years ago.
It comes from frustration with PBers general knowledge about pubs – I recall several threadettes passim based on the entirely false premise that pubs normally close at 11pm (perhaps these PBers all live in the sticks, or never actually attend pubs at all?)
Meanwhile over in Wales the publicans have an extra final hour of business to try and make a profit. That's gonna annoy English publicans.
It will also be interesting to see how this effects pubs on the Anglo-Welsh border. There will be people running across the River Wye at Tintern to get an extra hour of boozing.0 -
Wash your hands, wear your mask, keep your distance.
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Ah, thanks for that point. Schools went back 2 weeks earlier than south of the border, too.LostPassword said:
The problem is that it's going up - that's the sign of loss of control that we've seen elsewhere and before.Carnyx said:
Depends on the nature of testing. Different testing regime in Scotland, possibly more focussed on risk areas.LostPassword said:The situation is worse in Scotland. The positivity rate is 7.6% That's why they have more severe rules, because they have lost more control.
Nicola Sturgeon has lost control more than Boris Johnson. There's incompetence and then there's that.
It was 3.6% last Wednesday.0 -
IanB2 said:
Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.Anabobazina said:
I'd recommend Laithwaites – absolutely superb service and algorithms that work.Casino_Royale said:I'm basically going to subscribe to Tesco Wine Club and spend the next six months getting battered.
More impressively, the saleswomen actually know about wine.
I avoid anything budget from them – with large order discount you can make decent savings on the mid-range stuff.0 -
Seems possible, good analysisDAlexander said:
If you add 20 on to the Labour score they are 17 points ahead!CorrectHorseBattery said:
Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yesisam said:
Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government0 -
It has been years since I visited Japan.
JAV Company Opens 'Adult Theme Park', Staffed Entirely By Adult Film Stars.
Japanese adult video maker Soft On Demand (SOD), one of Japan's largest adult video companies, is opening a 5-floor 'adult theme park' at Tokyo's red-light district, Kabukicho, on October 10th.
https://9gag.com/gag/aQdOob70 -
As far as I know the NT isn't proposing to rename any of their properties, they simply want to provide more information to visitors, which seems about as far from "rewriting history" as it's possible to be. I'm not qualified to talk about the example you give since the only thing I know about Hume is his role in developing the quantity theory of money. Mind you, I think there is a difference between naming a building after somebody and simply having the building go by its street address, since the name of the street is outwith their control, and in any case who knows which George is being referred to? Could be George Clooney.DavidL said:
One of the more amusing cases I came across recently was the renaming of the David Hume Tower for some perceived inability to anticipate 20th century sensitivities by Edinburgh University. It is now called 40 George Square. That would be the Square named after George III who furiously opposed the abolition of the slave trade. Progress, its a wonderful thing.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Incredible that simply providing a factual record of what happened in the past is now labelled "rewriting history". As a NT member I am really happy that they've done this work. I always like to know as much as possible about the history of the places we visit, although obviously I am mostly there for the cream teas.FrancisUrquhart said:Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html
If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.0 -
Lol - Macron has plagiarized 'Hands, Face, Space', and in the same order too!williamglenn said:Wash your hands, wear your mask, keep your distance.
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RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.
The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.1 -
But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.BluestBlue said:
[NARRATOR]CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!
In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...1 -
1) Du Painwilliamglenn said:Wash your hands, wear your mask, keep your distance.
https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1308419978983546880?s=21
2) Du Vin
3) Du Boursin6 -
Getting closer to parity. Don't forget, no crossover until 2021.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government1 -
Will still be there regardless until we get a vaccineGallowgate said:
Uhh what about the virus?HYUFD said:
Boris will study the Scottish polls over the next week or two, if the SNP poll rating declines he will stick to his gunsIanB2 said:
Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrowHYUFD said:
By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet eitherNo_Offence_Alan said:
If some-one has the courage to oppose it.HYUFD said:
Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnightLostPassword said:Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.
Absolutely massive failure.
By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?0 -
Starmer doesn't want to peak too early like Ed.BluestBlue said:
[NARRATOR]CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!
In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...2 -
Not so.MikeSmithson said:
But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.BluestBlue said:
[NARRATOR]CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!
In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...
Red is Cameron Leader Ratings lead
Blue Conservative VI lead
Grey Cameron Personality lead
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Plug for this Covid Tracker covering Scotland and the United Kingdom, put together by a student. Very clear and useful. A couple of takeaways:
Looking at the heatmap in Scotland and the UK LA data, CV19 is becoming a disease of poverty, like other diseases I suppose. City of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire particularly bad hit.
The rise in hospitalisations is scary, particularly in England. This threatens capacity for other treatments. The crowd who claim we should let CV19 patients die so we can treat other diseases presumably will allow them to die untreated, even though this is a treatable disease.
Big jump in Scottish cases today. Looks, dare I say it, exponential.1 -
This is the moment though. This is the moment which either crowns Sturgeon Queen of the North or brings it all crashing down for the SNP.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1308402780802109440
Sturgeon is a politician at the top of her game.
And BoZo isn't.
For all that people paint Sturgeon as overly cautious this move combined with full school return back in August shows her to be a massive risk taker.0 -
Mike vs isam, fight fight fightisam said:
Not so.MikeSmithson said:
But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.BluestBlue said:
[NARRATOR]CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!
In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...
Red is Cameron Leader Ratings lead
Blue Conservative VI lead
Grey Cameron Personality lead1 -
Indeed, left liberals blame the voting system but they all know the Presidency has been decided by the electoral college not the popular vote since the US was created. No point doing a Hillary and fundraising in California when you need to win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.MikeL said:RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.
The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.
They then blame too many judges being appointed by Republican presidents, yet conservative judges are statistically more likely to retire under GOP presidents while liberal judges often cling on despite a Democrat being in the White House who can appoint their successor.
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Oh good, thanks for that. It was offline recently and IO thought it had gone for good.FF43 said:Plug for this Covid Tracker covering Scotland and the United Kingdom, put together by a student. Very clear and useful. A couple of takeaways:
Looking at the heatmap in Scotland and the UK LA data, CV19 is becoming a disease of poverty, like other diseases I suppose. City of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire particularly bad hit.
The rise in hospitalisations is scary, particularly in England. This threatens capacity for other treatments. The crowd who claim we should let CV19 patients die so we can treat other diseases presumably will allow them to die untreated, even though this is a treatable disease.
Big jump in Scottish cases today. Looks, dare I say it, exponential.0 -
Big North/South divide... lock them up!FF43 said:Plug for this Covid Tracker covering Scotland and the United Kingdom, put together by a student. Very clear and useful. A couple of takeaways:
Looking at the heatmap in Scotland and the UK LA data, CV19 is becoming a disease of poverty, like other diseases I suppose. City of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire particularly bad hit.
The rise in hospitalisations is scary, particularly in England. This threatens capacity for other treatments. The crowd who claim we should let CV19 patients die so we can treat other diseases presumably will allow them to die untreated, even though this is a treatable disease.
Big jump in Scottish cases today. Looks, dare I say it, exponential.0 -
Pas du Pain - Vive Petain.Casino_Royale said:
1) Du Painwilliamglenn said:Wash your hands, wear your mask, keep your distance.
https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1308419978983546880?s=21
2) Du Vin
3) Du Boursin
Pas du vin - Vive Petain.0 -
Regardless of whether she takes massive risks or is overly cautious - every move she makes is brilliant. And the consequences aren't her fault either - she does the best she can. All the time.Alistair said:
This is the moment though. This is the moment which either crowns Sturgeon Queen of the North or brings it all crashing down for the SNP.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1308402780802109440
Sturgeon is a politician at the top of her game.
And BoZo isn't.
For all that people paint Sturgeon as overly cautious this move combined with full school return back in August shows her to be a massive risk taker.
What a star.0 -
At room temperature are you able to tell the difference between a red and a white yet?IanB2 said:
Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.Anabobazina said:
I'd recommend Laithwaites – absolutely superb service and algorithms that work.Casino_Royale said:I'm basically going to subscribe to Tesco Wine Club and spend the next six months getting battered.
More impressively, the saleswomen actually know about wine.
Also Laithwaites I don't like because for obviousl reasons they offer these enormous 14.5% reds where the alcohol overwhelms whatever modest quality the wine might have had.0 -
Without the nominee even being nominated. That's some going.FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
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I don't have a problem with information and context, indeed, like you, I welcome it. David Hume was unquestionably the leading light in philosophy in his day leading the Scottish Enlightenment. I found it odd that the University did not want to celebrate one of its more distinguished alumni, even if context was required.OnlyLivingBoy said:
As far as I know the NT isn't proposing to rename any of their properties, they simply want to provide more information to visitors, which seems about as far from "rewriting history" as it's possible to be. I'm not qualified to talk about the example you give since the only thing I know about Hume is his role in developing the quantity theory of money. Mind you, I think there is a difference between naming a building after somebody and simply having the building go by its street address, since the name of the street is outwith their control, and in any case who knows which George is being referred to? Could be George Clooney.DavidL said:
One of the more amusing cases I came across recently was the renaming of the David Hume Tower for some perceived inability to anticipate 20th century sensitivities by Edinburgh University. It is now called 40 George Square. That would be the Square named after George III who furiously opposed the abolition of the slave trade. Progress, its a wonderful thing.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Incredible that simply providing a factual record of what happened in the past is now labelled "rewriting history". As a NT member I am really happy that they've done this work. I always like to know as much as possible about the history of the places we visit, although obviously I am mostly there for the cream teas.FrancisUrquhart said:Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html
If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.
In St Andrews Square there is a monument to Viscount Melville, Henry Dundas who was a master fixer in the mid 18th century with influence well beyond Scotland. A plinth is being put up pointing out that he used that power to again seek to protect the slave trade and certain other calumnious behaviours. Which is fair enough. I remember studying him in history at school and that sort of context was not mentioned which was wrong.3 -
Weren't the polls proven to be wrong between 2010 and 2015, so not sure a direct comparison is fair0
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Until the campaign starts, they have been wrong every time for the last decade or soCorrectHorseBattery said:Weren't the polls proven to be wrong between 2010 and 2015, so not sure a direct comparison is fair
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Indeed Starmer has got a lead at the minute.MikeSmithson said:
But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.BluestBlue said:
[NARRATOR]CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648
Another one.
Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.
Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!
In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...
Today's IPSOS MORI leadership approval ratings:
Boris Johnson 40%
Keir Starmer 43%
That's a 3% lead for Starmer not a 30% lead. Remember it is the positive approval ratings that matter, as the author of the UK's number one political blog has quite clearly explained in the past.1 -
Cock up; lock down ?MaxPB said:
The government's incompetence has led to the second wave. Rubbish quarantine policy, rubbish isolation policy and halting of testing expansion in July is why wer are where we are. All of those are domestic issues. The second wave is on Boris and and the c***.LadyG said:
A second wave was always likely to sweep away your optimism. Sadly. Respiratory viruses have second waves.MaxPB said:
Boris just killed it.CorrectHorseBattery said:Predictions of a V-shape recovery looking unlikely
Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:
July 7.1%
August 7.2%
September 2.1%
Final Q -1.3%
Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%
New projections
July 6.6% (actual)
August 7.7%
September 0.9%
Final Q -0.8%
Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%
Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭
My initial predictions were for a GDP loss of 10-15% over the year. 20% if the health service went into meltdown.
10% looks about right, at the mo. But we may bounce back vigorously next year.0 -
As a matter of fact I watched it; just to see. It's unlikely such a publication will have credibility, but ...williamglenn said:
The video only has 8 views, so I suspect your insult will hit close to home.Gallowgate said:
Why post a video clearly made by a moron?HankRearden said:The whole government narrative is increasingly debunked and collapsing in chaos
And it didn't. But it did give an idea of the mindset of those who made it. Foolish yes, Moronic, no.0 -
On topic the issue isn't Cummings; it's Johnson. Johnson should have fired him over the Barnard Castle affair, if he didn't resign already.2
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I think that people will be pissed about this but the real issue for her is what is going to be done about next years exams. Talk at the moment is that National 5s (effectively GCSEs) will not be examined but based on some form of continuous assessment. Highers and Advanced Highers are to be examined but possibly on a cut down curriculum. It is truly incredible that Swinney still hasn't made his mind up about this given we are half way through the Autumn term. This is real dynamite and Sturgeon is going to have to handle it very carefully, especially given Swinney's track record of incompetence over the last couple of years.Alistair said:
This is the moment though. This is the moment which either crowns Sturgeon Queen of the North or brings it all crashing down for the SNP.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1308402780802109440
Sturgeon is a politician at the top of her game.
And BoZo isn't.
For all that people paint Sturgeon as overly cautious this move combined with full school return back in August shows her to be a massive risk taker.0 -
Wine experts of PB, I had a deliciously sweet and crisp Chardonnay at an Italian restaurant a while back and I think it was this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Colombella-Bianco-Salento-Puglia-2011/dp/B00CJEDZKM#ace-g3536363283
It doesn't seem to be widely available. What do I need to look for if I want to buy something similar? I know nothing about wine apart from that specific one being delicious.0 -
Must be concerning for Susan Collins.Alistair said:
Without the nominee even being nominated. That's some going.FrancisUrquhart said:Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-542541410 -
Well quite. It’s a weird system that can encourage people to stay on far too long in the job because of the politics of appointment.MikeL said:RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.
The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.
Six years ago RBG was 81 and with an uncertain Senate election ahead, she could have retired and seen a Democrat president and a Democrat Senate pick her successor.0 -
So are gyms and cinema allowed to remain open?0
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BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test
The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-542504540 -
There's a very imaginative independent wine seller near me. Util Frbruary he had a good trade with pubs and restaurants in Essex & Suffolk; now he's looking after retail customers.IanB2 said:
Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.Anabobazina said:
I'd recommend Laithwaites – absolutely superb service and algorithms that work.Casino_Royale said:I'm basically going to subscribe to Tesco Wine Club and spend the next six months getting battered.
More impressively, the saleswomen actually know about wine.
Part of my plans for tomorrow are to gym over there, suitably masked and review what he's got this week.
There's also a vineyard nearby which sells it's own and other English wines.Tasty, but a bit on the pricey side.0 -
Yes but no games of basketball...indoor spin class fine, watching Tenet fine, outside yoga class of 7, computer says no.TheScreamingEagles said:So are gyms and cinema allowed to remain open?
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I was replying to a comment about errors in the rest of Europe. I've already written - at length - about how dumb the UK's traveller policy was.LadyG said:
No, Britain keeping open the airports, with nice direct flights from Wuhan, until about June, was even stupider.rcs1000 said:
I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)MaxPB said:
They aren't island nations.NerysHughes said:
So all the other countries in Europe having a second wave?MaxPB said:
The government's incompetence has led to the second wave. Rubbish quarantine policy, rubbish isolation policy and halting of testing expansion in July is why wer are where we are. All of those are domestic issues. The second wave is on Boris and and the c***.LadyG said:
A second wave was always likely to sweep away your optimism. Sadly. Respiratory viruses have second waves.MaxPB said:
Boris just killed it.CorrectHorseBattery said:Predictions of a V-shape recovery looking unlikely
Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:
July 7.1%
August 7.2%
September 2.1%
Final Q -1.3%
Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%
New projections
July 6.6% (actual)
August 7.7%
September 0.9%
Final Q -0.8%
Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%
Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭
My initial predictions were for a GDP loss of 10-15% over the year. 20% if the health service went into meltdown.
10% looks about right, at the mo. But we may bounce back vigorously next year.
Also they made the same mistakes and are just as incompetent. France especially so.1 -
Perugia you say?FrancisUrquhart said:BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test
The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54250454
Did he go via Farnborough??
With Boris in the cock pit!2 -
Its remarkable to think that the SCOTUS could soon have a 6-3 conservative majority, but had Hillary not neglected to campaign in the Midwest and put a bit more effort into their concerns it could now have a 6-3 liberal majority I believe?0
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Requiring a higher percentage of the Senate to vote for an SC Judge would result in more judges acceptable to both Republicans and Democrats and they could then be chosen for their ability.Sandpit said:
Well quite. It’s a weird system that can encourage people to stay on far too long in the job because of the politics of appointment.MikeL said:RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.
The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.
Six years ago RBG was 81 and with an uncertain Senate election ahead, she could have retired and seen a Democrat president and a Democrat Senate pick her successor.0 -
Sounds like it could have been organised by FIFA.FrancisUrquhart said:BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test
The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-542504540 -
Puglian wines seem to be becoming more widely available. Used to be mainly reds..... Primitivo and such, ................. but whites are now appearing. Might be worth Googling, or checking the lists of such as Laithwaites or Majestic.Gallowgate said:Wine experts of PB, I had a deliciously sweet and crisp Chardonnay at an Italian restaurant a while back and I think it was this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Colombella-Bianco-Salento-Puglia-2011/dp/B00CJEDZKM#ace-g3536363283
It doesn't seem to be widely available. What do I need to look for if I want to buy something similar? I know nothing about wine apart from that specific one being delicious.0 -
Ah the University of Perugia, that brings back memories.FrancisUrquhart said:BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test
The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54250454
Newsnight reveals inaccuracies in Iain Duncan Smith's CV
Aspects of Iain Duncan Smith's CV, relating to his education, are inaccurate and misleading, an investigation by BBC Newsnight reveals.
The investigation into the Conservative Party leader's education and early career - broadcast at 10.30pm on BBC TWO last night (Wednesday 18 December 2002) - was presented by Michael Crick, author of the best-selling biography of Jeffrey Archer.
If any of the following material is used BBC Newsnight must be credited.
The University of Perugia
Iain Duncan Smith's biography on the Conservative Party website, his entry in Who's Who, and various other places, state that he went to the Universita di Perugia in Italy.
This is not true: his office now admit that he went to the Universita per Stranieri, which is also in Perugia.
The Universita per Stranieri - or University for Foreigners - was founded in 1921 and is a totally separate institution to the medieval Universita di Perugia, founded by the Pope in 1308.
Although the Universita per Stranieri is a respected language school, it did not grant degrees when he studied there in 1973, although some students attained diplomas.
Mr Duncan Smith's office has now admitted to Newsnight that he didn't get any qualifications in Perugia or even finish his exams.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/12_december/19/newsnight_ids_cv.shtml
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Hilary would likely have faced a GOP senate throughout her presidency though. At best she may have been able to nominate three moderates. And assuming this alternative timeline had no impact on the date RBG dies, McConnell would of course be refusing to allow a vote on a replacement right now.Philip_Thompson said:Its remarkable to think that the SCOTUS could soon have a 6-3 conservative majority, but had Hillary not neglected to campaign in the Midwest and put a bit more effort into their concerns it could now have a 6-3 liberal majority I believe?
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