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  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221

    That's very true – there are indeed a few border towns / villages where the frontier runs through the middle of the centre.
    There used to be just such an anomaly in Holborn, near the City. Ely Place. The Mitre tavern (a brilliant old pub) was technically an enclave of Cambridgeshire (because it was owned by the Bishop of Ely) so it had more relaxed closing times than London pubs, for a while. People used to flock there for an extra hour of ale.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221
    "Lock us up!"
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221
    The Lib Dems are looking to be the opposition to the Westminster consensus - good on them
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,276
    MaxPB said:

    They aren't island nations.

    Also they made the same mistakes and are just as incompetent. France especially so.
    I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,087

    I'd recommend Laithwaites – absolutely superb service and algorithms that work.

    More impressively, the saleswomen actually know about wine.
    Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.
  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221
    rcs1000 said:

    I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)
    No, Britain keeping open the airports, with nice direct flights from Wuhan, until about June, was even stupider.
  • The situation is worse in Scotland. The positivity rate is 7.6% That's why they have more severe rules, because they have lost more control.

    Nicola Sturgeon has lost control more than Boris Johnson. There's incompetence and then there's that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited September 2020
    Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html

    If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    edited September 2020

    Banning people from seeing each other is incredibly draconian. It's arguably acceptable as an emergency public health measure, though you can make the case that it's not right for a democratic government to forbid it by law, rather than advise it, but after six months it's a massive failure for a government to have to resort to it again.

    Absolutely massive failure.

    By any sane measure the situation is worse now in Scotland than anywhere else in Britain or Ireland. How long can the SNP retain the confidence of the Scottish public?

    Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnight
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809
    rcs1000 said:

    I'd say the Spanish decision to re-open nightclubs was the dumbest single move. (And the fact that they kept them open in Ibiza two weeks after closing them down in the rest of Spain.)
    No, I think our quarantine and travel policies are worse, on that note, did you see my email?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    DavidL said:

    I admire your confidence. No doubt the regulations will be published sometime. Although publishing laws before they come into force is so last year, really.
    Actually I am not sure that your confidence was well placed. The current Health regulations include this definition:
    “extended household” means two households—
    (a)which have chosen to be treated as a single household, and
    (b)do not already form part of another extended household,"

    So if my daughter and partner choose to be treated as a single household with us (lord knows how, maybe an affidavit?) then would be a single household and they could come here and vice versa.
  • MaxPB said:

    Boris just killed it.

    Also I just remembered you wanted predictions, this is what we had pencilled in before July figures came out:

    July 7.1%
    August 7.2%
    September 2.1%

    Final Q -1.3%

    Economy compared to Feb - 96.1%

    New projections

    July 6.6% (actual)
    August 7.7%
    September 0.9%

    Final Q -0.8%

    Economy compared to Feb - 95.1%

    Obviously this is all horribly out of date given the latest measures. 😭
    Thanks for coming through, I always knew you would. Interesting stuff as always from you, Max.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    DavidL said:

    What is an extended household? Can I go to the house of my daughter and her partner? Can my wife still take her mum to church and help her in with anything she buys whilst out?
    'Extended household' has been in usage for quite a long time. You're just being mischievous - you're too intellogent to be otherwise.
  • DAlexanderDAlexander Posts: 815
    edited September 2020
    rcs1000 said:

    The Japanese government spends next to nothing on supporting the national debt as (1) half all JGBs are owned by the BOJ (which remits interest payments back to the government), and (2) 10 year JGB yields at 0.4%. In other words, the net debt service of the Japanese government is lower than in the UK.

    Japan's problem is simple:

    - low total fertility rate
    - high life expectancy

    That combination is something that pretty much all developed world governments have to deal with.
    I imagine the destruction of wealth for workers caused by government printing hasn't helped matters and has caused a reduction in the fertility rate.
  • HYUFD said:

    Yes this could be Sturgeon's dementia tax or poll tax if it is seen as being done unnecessarily, as May found it does not matter how big your poll lead one disastrously unpopular policy can see it disappear overnight
    If some-one has the courage to oppose it.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,911
    Police not happy. Use of military "Not needed or asked for."
    Hands up who wants to guard a power station or bust someone visiting their elderly parents?
  • Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54254141
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    The situation is worse in Scotland. The positivity rate is 7.6% That's why they have more severe rules, because they have lost more control.

    Nicola Sturgeon has lost control more than Boris Johnson. There's incompetence and then there's that.

    Depends on the nature of testing. Different testing regime in Scotland, possibly more focussed on risk areas.
  • Meanwhile, the Assembly Rooms in Bath were named due to the city's connections to the wider colonial and slave economies during the 18th Century.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759219/National-Trust-accused-rewriting-history-property-list-shame-colonial-links.html

    If that is your standard, I could have saved the National Trust time, effort and money and simply said rewritten every old building in the UK is linked to slavery, the empire or something else that is now deemed inappropriate. Full Stop.

    Incredible that simply providing a factual record of what happened in the past is now labelled "rewriting history". As a NT member I am really happy that they've done this work. I always like to know as much as possible about the history of the places we visit, although obviously I am mostly there for the cream teas.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited September 2020
    dixiedean said:

    Police not happy. Use of military "Not needed or asked for."
    Hands up who wants to guard a power station or bust someone visiting their elderly parents?

    What happened to the plan to use this lot?


  • https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648

    Another one.

    Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.

    Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648

    Another one.

    Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.

    Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government

    Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54254141

    Republicans are probably going to confirm someone before the election, and wait for the Democrats to talk about stuffing the court to motivate the evangelical voters out.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    edited September 2020

    If some-one has the courage to oppose it.
    By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet either
  • isam said:

    Second poll of the day with a 3 point Tory lead... and you repeat the lead is between 0-2 points!!!!!!!
    Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yes
  • Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54254141

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221

    Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yes
    Spin spin sugar x
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,911

    What happened to the plan to use this lot?


    I think they found there was no funding.
    None whatsoever.
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    edited September 2020

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648

    Another one.

    Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.

    Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government

    [NARRATOR]

    By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!

    In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...
  • isam said:

    Spin spin sugar x
    I literally said that in the original post but ok
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    Carnyx said:

    'Extended household' has been in usage for quite a long time. You're just being mischievous - you're too intellogent to be otherwise.
    See my comment at 3.35. I think that my "extended household" will have to be with my mother in law who needs a fair bit of help so that will exclude us from having another extended household with my daughter. But at least my wife can still help her mum whose acuity has sharply declined during lockdown.
  • Oh mate.
  • I imagine the destruction of wealth for workers caused by government printing hasn't helped matters and has caused a reduction in the fertility rate.
    The Japanese birth rate has been falling since the early 1970s so I am doubtful that QE has much to do with it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701
    No need for GOP Never-Trumpers to head to the polls now.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    edited September 2020

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1308415881857437701
    The Republicans however have won the national popular vote in 8 out of 13 of the last House of Representatives elections over that same timeframe
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,155
    edited September 2020
    Carnyx said:

    Depends on the nature of testing. Different testing regime in Scotland, possibly more focussed on risk areas.
    The problem is that it's going up - that's the sign of loss of control that we've seen elsewhere and before.

    It was 3.6% last Wednesday.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118

    Incredible that simply providing a factual record of what happened in the past is now labelled "rewriting history". As a NT member I am really happy that they've done this work. I always like to know as much as possible about the history of the places we visit, although obviously I am mostly there for the cream teas.
    One of the more amusing cases I came across recently was the renaming of the David Hume Tower for some perceived inability to anticipate 20th century sensitivities by Edinburgh University. It is now called 40 George Square. That would be the Square named after George III who furiously opposed the abolition of the slave trade. Progress, its a wonderful thing.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,087
    HYUFD said:

    By definition the Tories are as Boris is sticking with the rule of 6, I have seen no evidence Starmer, Leonard or Davey back Sturgeon on this yet either
    Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrow
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    edited September 2020
    IanB2 said:

    Why risk embarrassing yourself again? We all know what Scotland does today, Bozo does tomorrow
    Boris will study the Scottish polls over the next week or two, if the SNP poll rating declines he will stick to his guns
  • HYUFD said:

    The Republicans however have won the national popular vote in 8 out of 13 of the last House of Representatives elections over that same timeframe
    Mostly in midterm years which have far lower turnout
  • I assume you take the same view of the Welsh and NI devolved administrations, each of which have also devised their own individual responses.
    No. Sturgeon is playing a very clear game.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,121
    HYUFD said:

    Boris will study the Scottish polls over the next week or two, if the SNP poll rating declines he will stick to his guns
    Uhh what about the virus?
  • HYUFD said:
    The all-caps, double-spaced presentation of that tweet seems almost deliberately designed to infuriate the reader into not bothering to read all of it.
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    edited September 2020
    Trump is starting to look like he is in trouble in Georgia. 3 of the last 4 polls have shown Biden ahead or tied. It's certainly a more likely candidate to flip than Minnesota which seems to get so much attention on here.

    Texas also looking close with Trump only 2%, though I expect him to hold there.
  • Uhh what about the virus?
    The virus is rubbish, it has never won an 80 seat majority, it is scared of Boris Johnson.
  • Within MoE, gap is between 0 and 2 points I think, yes
    If you add 20 on to the Labour score they are 17 points ahead!
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    LadyG said:

    There used to be just such an anomaly in Holborn, near the City. Ely Place. The Mitre tavern (a brilliant old pub) was technically an enclave of Cambridgeshire (because it was owned by the Bishop of Ely) so it had more relaxed closing times than London pubs, for a while. People used to flock there for an extra hour of ale.
    One of my favourite pubs in London.
  • Wash your hands, wear your mask, keep your distance.

    https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1308419978983546880?s=21
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    The problem is that it's going up - that's the sign of loss of control that we've seen elsewhere and before.

    It was 3.6% last Wednesday.
    Ah, thanks for that point. Schools went back 2 weeks earlier than south of the border, too.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    IanB2 said:

    Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.

    I avoid anything budget from them – with large order discount you can make decent savings on the mid-range stuff.
  • If you add 20 on to the Labour score they are 17 points ahead!
    Seems possible, good analysis
  • It has been years since I visited Japan.

    JAV Company Opens 'Adult Theme Park', Staffed Entirely By Adult Film Stars.

    Japanese adult video maker Soft On Demand (SOD), one of Japan's largest adult video companies, is opening a 5-floor 'adult theme park' at Tokyo's red-light district, Kabukicho, on October 10th.


    https://9gag.com/gag/aQdOob7
  • DavidL said:

    One of the more amusing cases I came across recently was the renaming of the David Hume Tower for some perceived inability to anticipate 20th century sensitivities by Edinburgh University. It is now called 40 George Square. That would be the Square named after George III who furiously opposed the abolition of the slave trade. Progress, its a wonderful thing.
    As far as I know the NT isn't proposing to rename any of their properties, they simply want to provide more information to visitors, which seems about as far from "rewriting history" as it's possible to be. I'm not qualified to talk about the example you give since the only thing I know about Hume is his role in developing the quantity theory of money. Mind you, I think there is a difference between naming a building after somebody and simply having the building go by its street address, since the name of the street is outwith their control, and in any case who knows which George is being referred to? Could be George Clooney.
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    edited September 2020

    Wash your hands, wear your mask, keep your distance.

    https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1308419978983546880?s=21

    Lol - Macron has plagiarized 'Hands, Face, Space', and in the same order too!
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,771
    RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.

    The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.
  • [NARRATOR]

    By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!

    In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...
    But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,201

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1308399380165275648

    Another one.

    Within MoE, gap is somewhere between 0 and a couple of points.

    Keir will move that to a Labour lead by the end of this year, I would like to think. Today he has made another superb move on the very long road to getting us back into Government

    Getting closer to parity. Don't forget, no crossover until 2021.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896

    Uhh what about the virus?
    Will still be there regardless until we get a vaccine
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,201

    [NARRATOR]

    By this stage in the 2010-2015 Parliament, Labour under Ed Miliband had a 6-point lead over Cameron's Tories in the average of all the polls - 42% to 36%!

    In this Parliament, Keir Starmer's Labour has not led Boris Johnson's Conservatives in a single opinion poll...
    Starmer doesn't want to peak too early like Ed.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221

    But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.
    Not so.

    Red is Cameron Leader Ratings lead
    Blue Conservative VI lead
    Grey Cameron Personality lead


  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,858
    Plug for this Covid Tracker covering Scotland and the United Kingdom, put together by a student. Very clear and useful. A couple of takeaways:

    Looking at the heatmap in Scotland and the UK LA data, CV19 is becoming a disease of poverty, like other diseases I suppose. City of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire particularly bad hit.

    The rise in hospitalisations is scary, particularly in England. This threatens capacity for other treatments. The crowd who claim we should let CV19 patients die so we can treat other diseases presumably will allow them to die untreated, even though this is a treatable disease.

    Big jump in Scottish cases today. Looks, dare I say it, exponential.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1308402780802109440

    Sturgeon is a politician at the top of her game.

    And BoZo isn't.

    This is the moment though. This is the moment which either crowns Sturgeon Queen of the North or brings it all crashing down for the SNP.

    For all that people paint Sturgeon as overly cautious this move combined with full school return back in August shows her to be a massive risk taker.
  • isam said:

    Not so.

    Red is Cameron Leader Ratings lead
    Blue Conservative VI lead
    Grey Cameron Personality lead


    Mike vs isam, fight fight fight
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,896
    edited September 2020
    MikeL said:

    RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.

    The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.

    Indeed, left liberals blame the voting system but they all know the Presidency has been decided by the electoral college not the popular vote since the US was created. No point doing a Hillary and fundraising in California when you need to win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    They then blame too many judges being appointed by Republican presidents, yet conservative judges are statistically more likely to retire under GOP presidents while liberal judges often cling on despite a Democrat being in the White House who can appoint their successor.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    FF43 said:

    Plug for this Covid Tracker covering Scotland and the United Kingdom, put together by a student. Very clear and useful. A couple of takeaways:

    Looking at the heatmap in Scotland and the UK LA data, CV19 is becoming a disease of poverty, like other diseases I suppose. City of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire particularly bad hit.

    The rise in hospitalisations is scary, particularly in England. This threatens capacity for other treatments. The crowd who claim we should let CV19 patients die so we can treat other diseases presumably will allow them to die untreated, even though this is a treatable disease.

    Big jump in Scottish cases today. Looks, dare I say it, exponential.

    Oh good, thanks for that. It was offline recently and IO thought it had gone for good.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221
    FF43 said:

    Plug for this Covid Tracker covering Scotland and the United Kingdom, put together by a student. Very clear and useful. A couple of takeaways:

    Looking at the heatmap in Scotland and the UK LA data, CV19 is becoming a disease of poverty, like other diseases I suppose. City of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire particularly bad hit.

    The rise in hospitalisations is scary, particularly in England. This threatens capacity for other treatments. The crowd who claim we should let CV19 patients die so we can treat other diseases presumably will allow them to die untreated, even though this is a treatable disease.

    Big jump in Scottish cases today. Looks, dare I say it, exponential.

    Big North/South divide... lock them up!
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,307



    1) Du Pain
    2) Du Vin
    3) Du Boursin
    Pas du Pain - Vive Petain.
    Pas du vin - Vive Petain.
  • Alistair said:

    This is the moment though. This is the moment which either crowns Sturgeon Queen of the North or brings it all crashing down for the SNP.

    For all that people paint Sturgeon as overly cautious this move combined with full school return back in August shows her to be a massive risk taker.
    Regardless of whether she takes massive risks or is overly cautious - every move she makes is brilliant. And the consequences aren't her fault either - she does the best she can. All the time.

    What a star.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,668
    IanB2 said:

    Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.
    At room temperature are you able to tell the difference between a red and a white yet?

    Also Laithwaites I don't like because for obviousl reasons they offer these enormous 14.5% reds where the alcohol overwhelms whatever modest quality the wine might have had.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Republicans have secured the numbers needed to ensure that President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will face a confirmation vote in the Senate.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54254141

    Without the nominee even being nominated. That's some going.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118

    As far as I know the NT isn't proposing to rename any of their properties, they simply want to provide more information to visitors, which seems about as far from "rewriting history" as it's possible to be. I'm not qualified to talk about the example you give since the only thing I know about Hume is his role in developing the quantity theory of money. Mind you, I think there is a difference between naming a building after somebody and simply having the building go by its street address, since the name of the street is outwith their control, and in any case who knows which George is being referred to? Could be George Clooney.
    I don't have a problem with information and context, indeed, like you, I welcome it. David Hume was unquestionably the leading light in philosophy in his day leading the Scottish Enlightenment. I found it odd that the University did not want to celebrate one of its more distinguished alumni, even if context was required.

    In St Andrews Square there is a monument to Viscount Melville, Henry Dundas who was a master fixer in the mid 18th century with influence well beyond Scotland. A plinth is being put up pointing out that he used that power to again seek to protect the slave trade and certain other calumnious behaviours. Which is fair enough. I remember studying him in history at school and that sort of context was not mentioned which was wrong.
  • Weren't the polls proven to be wrong between 2010 and 2015, so not sure a direct comparison is fair
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221

    Weren't the polls proven to be wrong between 2010 and 2015, so not sure a direct comparison is fair

    Until the campaign starts, they have been wrong every time for the last decade or so
  • But EdM's leader ratings were miles behind Cameron. Remember hypothetical voting intention numbers are NO SUBSTITUTE for proper leader ratings like the one from Ipsos-MORI today that has Johnson 30% behind.
    Indeed Starmer has got a lead at the minute.

    Today's IPSOS MORI leadership approval ratings:
    Boris Johnson 40%
    Keir Starmer 43%

    That's a 3% lead for Starmer not a 30% lead. Remember it is the positive approval ratings that matter, as the author of the UK's number one political blog has quite clearly explained in the past.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,496
    MaxPB said:

    The government's incompetence has led to the second wave. Rubbish quarantine policy, rubbish isolation policy and halting of testing expansion in July is why wer are where we are. All of those are domestic issues. The second wave is on Boris and and the c***.
    Cock up; lock down ?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,537

    The video only has 8 views, so I suspect your insult will hit close to home.
    As a matter of fact I watched it; just to see. It's unlikely such a publication will have credibility, but ...

    And it didn't. But it did give an idea of the mindset of those who made it. Foolish yes, Moronic, no.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,858
    On topic the issue isn't Cummings; it's Johnson. Johnson should have fired him over the Barnard Castle affair, if he didn't resign already.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,118
    Alistair said:

    This is the moment though. This is the moment which either crowns Sturgeon Queen of the North or brings it all crashing down for the SNP.

    For all that people paint Sturgeon as overly cautious this move combined with full school return back in August shows her to be a massive risk taker.
    I think that people will be pissed about this but the real issue for her is what is going to be done about next years exams. Talk at the moment is that National 5s (effectively GCSEs) will not be examined but based on some form of continuous assessment. Highers and Advanced Highers are to be examined but possibly on a cut down curriculum. It is truly incredible that Swinney still hasn't made his mind up about this given we are half way through the Autumn term. This is real dynamite and Sturgeon is going to have to handle it very carefully, especially given Swinney's track record of incompetence over the last couple of years.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,121
    Wine experts of PB, I had a deliciously sweet and crisp Chardonnay at an Italian restaurant a while back and I think it was this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Colombella-Bianco-Salento-Puglia-2011/dp/B00CJEDZKM#ace-g3536363283

    It doesn't seem to be widely available. What do I need to look for if I want to buy something similar? I know nothing about wine apart from that specific one being delicious.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    Alistair said:

    Without the nominee even being nominated. That's some going.
    Must be concerning for Susan Collins.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    MikeL said:

    RBG really should have retired after Obama won re-election in 2012.

    The Presidency swings back and forth - at that point it was 50:50 who would win in 2016. With two terms being the norm it was very unlikely she would last until 2025 and she has in fact passed away just before 2021.

    Well quite. It’s a weird system that can encourage people to stay on far too long in the job because of the politics of appointment.

    Six years ago RBG was 81 and with an uncertain Senate election ahead, she could have retired and seen a Democrat president and a Democrat Senate pick her successor.
  • So are gyms and cinema allowed to remain open?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,371
    edited September 2020
    BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test

    The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54250454
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,537
    IanB2 said:

    Yes, I have just taken my WSET Level 2 wine exam with laithwaites, now offered entirely online, and await the results. They are a good company. Some of their budget price wines however are pretty ordinary.
    There's a very imaginative independent wine seller near me. Util Frbruary he had a good trade with pubs and restaurants in Essex & Suffolk; now he's looking after retail customers.
    Part of my plans for tomorrow are to gym over there, suitably masked and review what he's got this week.

    There's also a vineyard nearby which sells it's own and other English wines.Tasty, but a bit on the pricey side.
  • So are gyms and cinema allowed to remain open?

    Yes but no games of basketball...indoor spin class fine, watching Tenet fine, outside yoga class of 7, computer says no.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,276
    LadyG said:

    No, Britain keeping open the airports, with nice direct flights from Wuhan, until about June, was even stupider.
    I was replying to a comment about errors in the rest of Europe. I've already written - at length - about how dumb the UK's traveller policy was.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,221

    BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test

    The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54250454

    Perugia you say?

    Did he go via Farnborough??

    With Boris in the cock pit!
  • Its remarkable to think that the SCOTUS could soon have a 6-3 conservative majority, but had Hillary not neglected to campaign in the Midwest and put a bit more effort into their concerns it could now have a 6-3 liberal majority I believe?
  • Sandpit said:

    Well quite. It’s a weird system that can encourage people to stay on far too long in the job because of the politics of appointment.

    Six years ago RBG was 81 and with an uncertain Senate election ahead, she could have retired and seen a Democrat president and a Democrat Senate pick her successor.
    Requiring a higher percentage of the Senate to vote for an SC Judge would result in more judges acceptable to both Republicans and Democrats and they could then be chosen for their ability.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test

    The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54250454

    Sounds like it could have been organised by FIFA.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,537

    Wine experts of PB, I had a deliciously sweet and crisp Chardonnay at an Italian restaurant a while back and I think it was this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Colombella-Bianco-Salento-Puglia-2011/dp/B00CJEDZKM#ace-g3536363283

    It doesn't seem to be widely available. What do I need to look for if I want to buy something similar? I know nothing about wine apart from that specific one being delicious.

    Puglian wines seem to be becoming more widely available. Used to be mainly reds..... Primitivo and such, ................. but whites are now appearing. Might be worth Googling, or checking the lists of such as Laithwaites or Majestic.
  • BBC News - Luis Suarez: Police probe his Italian citizenship test

    The player allegedly knew about subjects given in the test before he took it at the University of Perugia and had his final score agreed beforehand, according to a statement issued by the prosecutor's office in Perugia, central Italy, and the Guardia di Finanza.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54250454

    Ah the University of Perugia, that brings back memories.

    Newsnight reveals inaccuracies in Iain Duncan Smith's CV

    Aspects of Iain Duncan Smith's CV, relating to his education, are inaccurate and misleading, an investigation by BBC Newsnight reveals.

    The investigation into the Conservative Party leader's education and early career - broadcast at 10.30pm on BBC TWO last night (Wednesday 18 December 2002) - was presented by Michael Crick, author of the best-selling biography of Jeffrey Archer.

    If any of the following material is used BBC Newsnight must be credited.

    The University of Perugia

    Iain Duncan Smith's biography on the Conservative Party website, his entry in Who's Who, and various other places, state that he went to the Universita di Perugia in Italy.

    This is not true: his office now admit that he went to the Universita per Stranieri, which is also in Perugia.

    The Universita per Stranieri - or University for Foreigners - was founded in 1921 and is a totally separate institution to the medieval Universita di Perugia, founded by the Pope in 1308.

    Although the Universita per Stranieri is a respected language school, it did not grant degrees when he studied there in 1973, although some students attained diplomas.

    Mr Duncan Smith's office has now admitted to Newsnight that he didn't get any qualifications in Perugia or even finish his exams.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/12_december/19/newsnight_ids_cv.shtml
  • Its remarkable to think that the SCOTUS could soon have a 6-3 conservative majority, but had Hillary not neglected to campaign in the Midwest and put a bit more effort into their concerns it could now have a 6-3 liberal majority I believe?

    Hilary would likely have faced a GOP senate throughout her presidency though. At best she may have been able to nominate three moderates. And assuming this alternative timeline had no impact on the date RBG dies, McConnell would of course be refusing to allow a vote on a replacement right now.
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